¶ Valentins Q&A on Relational Health
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Yeah , we sure are . We've got a Q&A episode for you today , which we love doing every now and then , so thanks everybody for writing us in your questions and hopefully , you guys are having a great summer . Yeah , we're having a good summer , Are we babe ?
Yeah , we just went to Hayfork County , fair Trinity .
County Fair , oh Trinity County Fair in Hayfork , in Hayfork , california , yeah .
And watched some Destruction Derby . If y'all have never watched the Destruction Derby , you are missing out .
Also , you might just not live close enough to a redneck small town . It might just not live close enough to a redneck small town , but we have the luxury of living next to one of the most redneck small towns in America .
Listen , they had 21 cars and 10 trucks and they do these different heats where the cars are smashing into each other . Literally , it's the last car standing wins type of event .
And our two and a half year old boy was in absolute heaven .
It's amazing .
It's true , but that's not what your questions were about today . No we've actually got five great questions that we're going to spend some time unpacking and answering . Are you ready , babe ?
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Yeah , we love incorporating your questions into some of our episodes and it helps us understand what you guys are facing , what you're interested in , what you need help with . So , yeah , we love hearing from you . All right , babe . First question how do you navigate in marriage a change in your sexual attraction towards your partner after some weight gain ?
yeah , this is real it's real life it happens on for both people . You know , like , um , I think for women it's really common to gain weight after having babies and yeah you know , as you get older , and for men , it's really common to gain weight after you have babies because you eat everything that's left over on the plate .
Um , I think a couple of things , and I'd love to hear a lot of your thoughts too , in this . This is a very sensitive topic for couples just in general , because you know people feel insecure and you don't . You don't feel your best when you're , when you're not looking your best .
And I think on top of that there's like a thousand reasons why people gain weight , from everything from again babies to hormonal changes , to um , to hormonal changes , to physical ailments .
Yeah .
And sometimes it's just flat out laziness right .
Right .
That's been the case in my life personally .
Nothing else to blame , yeah .
When I've gained the most weight . I just don't want to do the work .
Right .
And so I think it really depends on the reason why you're in that spot . And so I have a close friend whose wife gained quite a and more about being physically healthy , because that's exactly right .
¶ Navigating Sensitive Conversations on Physical Attraction
So I think when we go as as a man , if I came to you and said , hey , I'm really struggling with feeling attracted to you because of how much you weigh , that's probably not going to go over very well . And not only that it's the wrong message to send , probably not going to go over very well .
And not only that , it's the wrong message to send If , if I , if you weren't healthy babe , if you weren't living a healthy lifestyle because of a bunch of different reasons . I would approach the topic from the place of hey , I want like . My main concern for us is that we both be as healthy as we possibly can .
Yeah .
And I want to do this journey with you . And what do you think about that ? You know the conversation would be around that .
Yep .
Not about my sexual drive and how I'm not as attracted to you .
Right .
But I also think too , attraction comes from a lot of different things in the . Physical is just one piece . I think it's important to remind everyone that as we age , we get less physically attractive .
Yeah .
It's just what happens . I mean nothing stays in the same place as when you first started out . I mean when we first got together , you were 24 . Right , and I was 29 .
And I don't look a day older . No , you don't Um but I do , I definitely do . You know , I have my hair , and a lot of years later , yeah , and so everything looks different .
you know everything . And it's back to what creates what creates a deeply connected , uh , to what creates a deeply connected , satisfying sex life and satisfying marriage . And one of those parts is I am attracted to what I see . That's awesome . But a whole bunch of other parts are I'm attracted to who you are .
Yeah .
I'm attracted to who we are . I'm attracted to what we are becoming and how you handle me and how you care for me , and so I just think it's very , very important that we don't just touch on the sexual aspect because of how someone looks physically .
Yeah .
You want to add some pieces to this .
Yeah , I think that it's a really valid question because , um , like , everything you said is true , and yet , if you're in a situation where you're finding that you're not actually very sexually attracted to your spouse , that's a tricky situation to be in , and the things that you just mentioned don't aren't things that change overnight .
You know , and I will say I agree that , uh , having a spouse who takes care of himself , uh , physically , mentally and emotionally , is really important to me . That you know , physical attraction is hard to muster when you're married to somebody who doesn't take great care of themselves . For me , it wouldn't just be weight , it would .
You know , there's other things that contribute to taking care of yourself , and so , you know , those factors are important . Um , I think that I really love , as a couple , setting a goal , you know , like in marriage .
I think it would be really healthy to determine , um , in your , in your marriage , like when it comes to taking care of our bodies , like what , what is our standard ? What is our like ? What do we want to ? What do we want to set as our standard in that , and how can we go after that as a team ? You know this is such a sensitive topic .
It's very hard . I would imagine it'd be very hard to bring this up with anyone almost anyone , man or woman like it would be very sensitive to say , hey , I'm struggling .
I don't I'm struggling in my physical attraction towards you and I think that it's because of , uh , either how much weight you've put on or something about how you're taking care of yourself is not aligning with , like , what I find physically attractive .
That is real and probably that's a conversation that would be really helpful to have with somebody else , maybe even before you have it with your spouse , in the sense of , like , that's something that I would talk to my counselor about before I would approach it with Jason . I would actually run it past my counselor and say here's how I'm feeling .
Help me brainstorm the best way to deliver this message in a way that's helpful but honest and um well , can I add a piece to that ?
I also think that a lot of times it's not necessarily how somebody looks , but how they're taking care of themselves .
That's what I said , yeah .
Yeah , that well , I just want to highlight that point . Yeah , I think that's good because if , if you're doing what you know to do , then and you're doing a good job at it , then I actually really respect that a hundred percent , and there's a lot of things that we can't change .
But if I really respect what you're doing and how hard you're working and where we're going together , there's all kinds of things that you and I would prefer would be changed on one another , like if I had a magic wand , sure , and whether it's how proactive I am or my ability to you know clean better or I don't know , like my toes and my back hair and all
that stuff that guys have . You know , it's like if you could wave a magic wand , but part of what makes couples more and more attractive to one another is I really deeply respect you .
Yeah .
And I respect how you live your life , and I think the least attractive thing in life is I don't respect how you're living .
The least attractive thing in life is I don't respect how you're living and for I think , with when a woman is looking at a man , I think that that's the biggest piece is do you respect how he's living his life and how he's carrying himself ?
And I think a man to a woman , it's do again , do I respect you and do I respect how you're living life and taking care of yourself and taking care of me and the family ? and showing up in the relationship and so when we have conversations around actually , uh , navigating these type of conversations , I'm really I think it's back to I love you so much .
Right .
I want our marriage to feel so connected . I want to really . I want us to both be really proud of how we're living and how we're leading our life , and I'm just finding that the way we're doing our morning routine , or our lack of , you know , attention to physical exercise , or the way that we eat , I don't really love it anymore .
It doesn't feel like it's serving us yeah .
So having that , that honest conversation , I think in attacking the root issue , or even , I have a friend that called me the other day and his wife is just going through a ton of stress and she has some things that that really need to be attended to by a doctor . Um , but she , she hasn't really been super um , she hasn't really kept up well with that .
And I said , hey , why don't we either have a conversation together or you have the conversation that says I really love you , I want to live a long life . This matters to me more than anything . That you would take care of your , your physical health , and that we would do everything at the doctor that we know to do to really care for you where you're at .
This is super important for me . I love you , I want to go on this journey with you . It's that piece of I love you . I want to go on this journey with you . I'm for you . This really matters to me . I think that's the message we have to send very well .
Yeah , I agree , the message we have to send very well . Yeah , I agree . Yeah , I'd even refer listeners back to we had we did an episode last week , uh , called you know how to have hard conversations . That's a great one .
¶ Navigating Insecurities and Building Friendships
And then any , any way that you can bolster , strengthening your emotional connection in your marriage by way of emotion led communication and learning how to communicate really well with each other about yourself and in a way that's for your marriage . Uh , all of that is going to be more important than the actual message you send about this weight gain .
Yep , yeah , very good , okay , um , my boyfriend has had a really gorgeous female friend and likes her photos on Facebook and it makes me feel unsafe and insecure . Is this something I need to work on with myself ? What do we do ?
Yes . Short answer . Yeah , that's real . I think that any time you feel unsafe and insecure , it's an indicator that you have something that you need and you're not sure what to do about it . And , ultimately , when we are feeling unsafe and insecure , we need to find out where that's coming from , and sometimes you know it's a trust issue .
Whether that trust issue is between you and your partner or whether that trust issue is really between you and yourself or you and God that's that's the question . So , um , you know that I would have . I have gorgeous friends . Let me just say that right now , my friends are beautiful .
I've some of my best friends are some of the best looking girls that I know .
Yeah , they are .
And actually Jay has really close friendship with most of my close friends , which I value highly . My friends mean so much to me , and so that my husband is somebody who knows how to invest in my friendships and knows how to care for my girlfriends .
I actually really love that about you , babe , and , um , I would want you to be able to get on social media and support them in whatever they're doing or , you know , like their photos and give shout outs and things like that . That's fun .
Now , if my friends were like prancing around social media in bikinis and posting things that were super inappropriate or that felt like they were trying to get a guy's attention , that would be a whole nother conversation . Um , so I think the nature of it you know .
I would have questions like well , if your boyfriend has a really beautiful friend who you know he's liking their posts on social media , and the nature of the post isn't anything wrong , it's just purely that she's got a pretty face , then I would say , yeah , we probably need to figure out why you feel jealous or insecure about somebody else's pretty face .
You know what I'm saying . But if it's , if the nature of it is , if it's beyond that right Like , if it's you actually have a problem with the friendship that your boyfriend has with this person , then it could be from a host of different reasons this person , then it could be from a host of different reasons .
Yeah , I think the key is I , I am supporting you and your friends and loving on you and your friends . Um , I don't have a ton of I can't . I was sitting here thinking like what girlfriends of mine do I have that we don't mutually share ?
Zero .
Yeah , it's zero . And so you know , lauren would . There's a . There's a girl I follow . Her name's Meredith . She's a fly fishing girl . She does like she doesn't share it show any like . I don't follow anyone that's trying to attract men .
No , exactly that's what I'm saying .
She's a legit woman fly fisherman like kicks butt .
Yeah , so I would follow her . It's a fly fishing account ? Yeah , it is , and it's legit . It happens to be run by a woman .
Uh-huh , it's a legit one , yeah , and I really respect her because of what she does . But guys have girlfriends that aren't mutual friends . It creates a really , really funky relationship , for sure . And you know , again back to I didn't when before I dated you , I didn't want to have to change all of my relationships around when a woman came in my life Right .
So I didn't have a bunch of single girlfriends that I did things with , uh , that I would have to like stop that relationship when a woman came in , and so I think a lot of guys have never had really great boundaries .
And therefore , when a woman comes in , she does feel like I'm competing with all these other women that you had in your life and you're giving a piece of yourself to them that should only be given to me , so I would .
If that's the case , if he's liking you know girls photos who are clearly out there hunting for men then I would say your issue is you need to set better boundaries with your boyfriend and say , hey , I actually don't follow any guys that are trying to impress women .
Yes .
And you following girls that are clearly trying to impress men doesn't feel great to me . Actually my insecurity isn't around me . My insecurity is around . I don't want . I want our relationship to be secure .
Yeah , I want to know who's who's getting your attention .
Yeah , I want to know who's who's getting your attention . Yeah , and so that would be . The biggest piece is if , if you're man or woman , right , If somebody else , if your wife is following guys who are throwing it out there trying to impress women , which there's a billion accounts like that then , you got to switch it up .
Yeah , it doesn't feel good like that then you got to switch it up .
Yeah , it doesn't feel good . Yeah , so it's good , yeah , okay . Um , someone wrote in that it feels hard to find a group of men to do close relationship with . So a man wrote and said I'm finding it hard to find close friendships with men who truly love their marriages .
This question came as we were in a previous episode talking about how I actually said , in my closest circle of friends , I typically only build really really close , intimate friendships with women who love their marriages , because I need people in my life who are doing a great job fighting for their marriage and loving their marriage .
It's part of what makes me feel safe in friendship . Um , he said I love that , but I'm having a hard time finding a close group of friends that really love their marriages .
How do you go about building a friend group as a guy when so many men aren't actually thriving in marriage , and is that a really important standard to keep when I'm building close friendships ? What do you think ?
Yeah , so I have , um , some really close friends who don't love their marriage because their marriage is not in a great spot . Um , however , they're working super hard to change that . Yeah , and they're really respectable , awesome men and really respectable awesome women .
Yeah , Um , who , who they're married to , it just the marriage is really tough and that happens right .
¶ Navigating Divorce and Moving On
I was in a really tough marriage . Yeah , my first marriage was super tough and , um , so , to me , it's not , uh , it's not about whether or not they have a marriage that is perfect and amazing and working for me personally . It's about is this a person that I respect ? Is it ? Do I respect how they lead their life ?
Do I respect , uh , how they lead their family ? Do I respect how they're working on the areas that they're weak in ? And you know , you would have your close friends with girls who have weaknesses in different areas .
Oh yeah .
You know , besides , their marriage is strong , or I also know some of your friends have gone through a hard spot in their marriage before .
For sure .
And so just to clarify where that came from , I think when we're creating friend groups , when we're creating people that you want to hang around for a long period of time , you really have to go back to at first . We just need friends . You know we need , we need as good of friends as we can make .
And then , as you make some friends and as you have the ability to make more friends , that's what happens in life is , you know , hang around the best people that you can , because that becomes your influence . It becomes your resource becomes your influence , it becomes your resource , it becomes your community .
And we are constantly whether we like to admit it or not , are constantly in a healthy way , moving people out who don't take care of their life and moving people in who really do take care of their life , Because if they take care of their life , they'll take care of our life .
And that becomes this piece of like the Bible says do unto others as you do unto yourself . So , there's lots of friendships in my life that I started out , where I didn't realize oh man , they don't know how to do unto themselves . And that's why , eventually , the do unto others isn't really working out well , and so I think it's um .
We all go through different seasons in life . If you get married and you've never had , if you get married and you're just newly married , you'll go through a time where your marriage is hard .
Oh yeah .
And if you have kids , you know you'll go through a time where you have a hard time with your kids . Oh yeah and uh . We've been through every one of those areas .
So I think , find the best friends that you can and run with those 100% and I think that , like you said , the closest people I need the closest people in my life to be people who take a lot of ownership and do a lot of work in whatever area for them comes up that indicates like , hey , this needs some time , effort , energy .
Question four .
Yeah .
How did you know when to stop fighting for your marriage ? So I think this was referring to my divorce .
Yeah , because this question came , somebody actually asked . You know , you got remarried . At what point did you decide I'm going to stop fighting for my marriage and I'm going to let myself move on ?
And I'll open this question up to a bit of a broader audience too , because I have a lot of people that ask me this question , like how do I know when my marriage is no longer worth fighting for yeah and for uh ?
So I'll say this one you have to work this out with the people that are in your life that you really respect , that , that give you , that know you and can give you really good wisdom and counsel .
And that know your situation . Yes , there's no blanket answer for this .
Yeah and so , but I'm going to give my best answer that I can . So I just want to start out by saying people make all kinds of mistakes because they they push , eject yeah . And a marriage is a very , very sacred thing . The fact that marriage gets tough is not a bad thing . That's a normal thing .
The fact that there's things to work through , things that you don't like , is a normal thing . You're never going to marry someone and go , wow , I like everything about them . That's a myth . It's a fairy tale . You don't like everything about you , so you're going to work Totally and you're going to change and marriage is going to get tough .
So that covenant , that real covenant that you make with God , is there to keep you in the game Totally . It's there so that you will work through the hard time and do what you have to do to hang on when it gets frigging so tough .
Totally .
So when do you push , eject ?
There's so many different steps and before I so the first challenge that I see people make is they don't communicate well enough before things are getting are getting challenging and frustrating , and so then it's like they have years of you don't take care of me , you don't show up for me , you're not , you don't take care of me , you don't show up for me ,
You're not , you don't really know me , and it's like well , a lot of that's your fault because you haven't communicated anything If you haven't communicated , and so it becomes this you know , massive disconnection . Instead of fixing something small , you're having to fix something massive . Let's talk about an affair , because I would say that's the most common reason .
Why is why people ? why people yeah is a fair or emotional disconnection . Uh , uh , yeah . And so with an affair for me , I honestly I don't actually feel like I had much choice at all . Um , my wife was having an affair , uh , and decided to go . Decided to go and be with somebody .
Your marriage ended not because it was your choice . Not because you wanted it to end .
Nope . So before I ever found out about the affair , it was on its way out , which I was trying to , yeah , so I didn't know what was going on . Anyways , without going into so much detail about that , I didn't really have a choice . I didn't wasn't given the option of like , hey , let's work on this , hey , let's talk through why that happened .
I didn't get any of that , so it wasn't uh , it wasn't super hard to you know to move on . There was nothing to stay for .
Well , can I ? Can I pause on that ?
Yeah .
So true , but you know you didn't spend a year trying to get her back after she left the marriage . I'm saying like some people wonder yeah . So but actually think that it's important to like .
I'll go through a bit more detail , like when I'm not so much asking you to give more detail about your situation .
I'm saying yeah , but I'm not going to go you to give more detail about your situation .
I'm saying yeah , but I'm not going to go into too much detail . What I am going to say is Danny Silk had asked me hey , before you , before you even sign papers or file papers or anything like I , I want you to wait six months . So I didn't do anything for six months .
That's good yeah .
I didn't look around , I didn't think like I , just I didn't do anything . And in California also , the day that papers are filed , you still have to wait six months before your divorce is final . And let me just say this to all the people out there is if you , if your divorce isn't final , you are still married .
So to go and be in a relationship is a real dumb idea around . Yeah , dumb idea . So , anyways , um , I , I didn't do anything for six months . I literally just started working through pain and going to work and taking care of the kids and doing life . And my here was .
My whole thought is and I think this is really true for people is , if your spouse is having an affair and they , on their own , go and get well , clean up the mess , want to rebuild the marriage , you've got something worth fixing . Got something worth fixing .
If you have to go , beg them , hunt them down , get them to see there's a problem , chase them all around like it isn't going to work because you can't fix somebody else . And so that was my mentality . If , if I'll , I'm happy to wait six months . Honestly , I waited a year .
And if , on her own , you know she goes and gets well and changes and comes back Like that's up to her , that's not up to me and it's not up to me to chase anybody down . And so I think that a lot I really do .
I think that in your marriage , it's your responsibility to really work on you and to own your stuff and to show up and to be present in the marriage . And , um , in an affair , you know , the person's got to want to change .
Um , I think the the other reason that people leave is a course like emotional abuse and to me , like a lot of couple , a lot of people are like , like you know , I don't want a divorce .
Well , that's what separation's for is if you're in an emotionally abusive relationship and it is actually genuinely emotionally abusive set some really hard boundaries to love you , to protect the relationship , and you don't have to get a divorce .
You can literally which again , you should do this with a counselor but you can literally go hey , this isn't working out for me . We've done this road a million times . I love you , but I'm not going to continue to get emotionally abused or the kids , I'm not going to continue to expose our kids to this .
You need to go get help and I'm going to be over here till you go get help . I'm not in control of you . You know you could set that really healthy boundary .
Divorce , to me , is the last option , because the truth is is like I often see people get a divorce thinking that they're going to find now again emotional abuse affairs I'm not talking about that anymore where they think you know I'm going to find someone that makes me happier and the truth is , is that divorce is so damaging to the kids .
It's so much to work through yeah it's an emotional hammer . It's a . It's a hammer on your finances . Like I rarely see people get divorced and I know I'm going to get a million texts like in and have people go like , wow , that was really , that was worth it . If I could have rebuilt my marriage and fixed my marriage , I would have done that .
And we've talked about that a lot Like we would both have wanted that for our kids . Oh , yeah , so to me , that's the . That is the first and the best option , every time , if you can .
Yeah , absolutely Great answer .
Yeah .
Okay , last one yeah .
Okay , here we go . I'm going to ask it for you . Okay , um , what to do ? What do you do when your wife is chronically sick , which causes sexual dysfunction , while the husband still wants to engage in sex , but withdraws physical affection to avoid getting disappointed ? And we can make it much more simple . Like what ?
Do you do when your spouse is physically sick , you know with an illness .
Yeah , chronically ill and it affects your connection . Yeah , yeah , know , with a illness . Yeah , chronically ill and it affects your connection . Yeah , yeah , um , well , you know , I don't have chronic illness experience . But I have experience Um . I've had two babies and . I've had hard recoveries .
I had a hard recovery physical recovery after our first child and , um , we've talked about this on the podcast , but we were unable to have intercourse for almost a whole calendar year after Edie was born . Right , who's counting ? So , um , we learned in well and we had learned even in previous seasons what to do about .
You know , in marriage there are ebbs and flows to everything and your sexual intimacy . What that looks like , it changes season to season . A lot of outside factors , yeah , A lot of outside factors .
Yeah , you know , when it comes to two physical bodies connecting in a way that is helpful for your marriage , like a lot of people go through a lot of changes in life , a lot of things physical , emotional , mental Health really does impact your ability to connect on a sexual level . Health really does impact your ability to connect on a sexual level .
So I think , um , one thing that was really important for us was building an emotional connection that could withstand a withdrawal from our sexual intimacy . So we worked really hard in those years to build an incredible emotional connection .
Um , I think that the second half of that question where , uh , this listener said you know that they actually started withdrawing physical affection in order to avoid getting disappointed I think that is that's the indication of pain . Right , that's that's where you know , oh , I have a lot of pain . I'm trying to avoid pain right now .
So , for starters , I think that if you have a spouse with chronic illness and it's impacting your sexual intimacy spouse with chronic illness and it's impacting your sexual intimacy that you can talk very openly about it and share very openly with each other about how the situation is impacting you , how it feels to be in your skin in this situation would be very
important . So my number one goal for anybody in a situation like this would be do you have the skillset to talk very openly in your emotion-led communication ? Can you communicate with each other about how you feel about the situation ?
That means that I'm communicating with you about myself , free of judgment and accusation , but I feel like I can be completely honest with you about how I feel . Uh , and you're not . You're not interpreting that as blame or accusation or , you know , judgment . That's a strong , that's an important skillset to have in marriage in general .
¶ Navigating Intimacy and Disappointment in Marriage
But when you're talking about this kind of thing , you got to be able to be really free and open . You're talking about this kind of thing , you got to be able to be really free and open .
If you're avoiding physical affection to avoid getting disappointed , that's something you would need to be able to talk about with your spouse and probably somebody on the outside as well . You need to be able to process that pain . Um , you know we , we know that you can actually engage in sexual intimacy without having intercourse .
We've had to do that for seasons in our marriage . It's possible , and I would say that , especially in that season after Edie where it wasn't physically possible for me to have intercourse . We actually had a pretty connected sex life in the midst of that . It's just didn't look like what it had looked like in the past .
So you know , you gotta be able to think outside the box a little bit and um but . But if you are actually in a marriage with somebody who's unable really to engage in a lot of sexual intimacy in general , that is a huge , that is a . That's a , that's a trial . I mean , that is a . That is a disappointment to grieve .
That is a situation to go to God and wise counsel about . With regards to like , what do I do when this area of my life is ? I feel like my hands are tied and there's not a lot I can do about my spouse's physical health situation and I have a lot of expectation and I have a lot of expectations to grieve . I'm feeling disappointed in this area .
This is something that I didn't want and you know we have a lot of .
There are a lot of areas of life where you get to a certain point in your life and you realize of life where you get to a certain point in your life and you realize , oh dang , this isn't what I thought I was signing up for , or this is really painful and sad and disappointing for me .
This might just be my lot in life , oh crap , like , how do I reconcile that , you know ? Um , and so learning how to grieve your disappointments is really important . That doesn't answer the what do I do physically about my needs question . I'm going to let you answer that .
But I think that on the emotional level , those are really real things to sit with and process and grieve . I don't want to . I don't want to draw a comparison where it's not appropriate , but , like my mom died this year , I have to grieve the fact that I'll never have a mom on the planet again for the rest of my life .
Or , you know , we've had one of our , one of our children , one of our toddler . She has had some emotional struggles this past year and I've had to grieve like , wow , this isn't how I saw this going . I really wanted to enjoy the four-year-old season of my daughter's life and it's been really hard . That's a grief that I carry .
Or having a husband who struggles with anxiety , uh , from time to time I remember last Christmas actually having this thought with myself like I'm sad that I'm married to somebody who struggles with anxiety . I can't take his anxiety away . It's a grief to me , like I didn't want to marry somebody that battles anxiety , but I did .
We might always battle anxiety , bummer , like I don't want that . I didn't want that . I'm sad about that . I have to grieve it . It impacts our life , you know . So my point in saying all of that is getting good at processing pain and disappointment is really important .
Yeah , I mean , I have a wife who's super beautiful and I can't stay home all day and be with her .
Oh my gosh .
So that's what I'm grieving . We all have grief in life , oh my . I think that you're right , babe . You know , grieving your wife or your husband being chronically ill and sick , Uh , the biggest pieces that you feel alone you feel you don't feel seen Um and you feel you're feeling very disconnected . That's the biggest piece .
So , you have to solve that and that's right . You can solve it with all the all the ways that Lauren talked about a second ago . Let's get . Let's also get creative about being known . So , being known sexually , being known in maybe some of your you know what would be , what sounds exciting to you even though you can't have intercourse .
That that's a big piece , and so I think , if your wife's chronically ill , or your husband's chronically ill , being able to being able to do other things , you can masturbate , you can . There's all kinds of you know oral sex .
There's all kinds of different ways that you can solve this piece of the puzzle that are healthy and that that don't violate the marriage and that you can feel known and cared for . And seen . Is everything that you wished and wanted for ? No , but I have yet to find most anything in life . That is everything I dreamed up in the very beginning .
Right .
The outcome of learning how to do those hard things and what it brings us to we end up in a marriage that we go . Wow , we've overcome a lot . Wow , I have so much respect for you . Wow , you really know me and see me and love me .
Yeah .
That's the biggest piece . The orgasm lasts for you know a few , a few seconds , uh , you know minute , whatever . But you know me , you see me , you love me , you understand me , you're my partner .
Yeah , that's the lifeblood me . You love me , you understand me .
You're my partner . Yeah , that's the lifeblood . That is , that's the lifeblood . So that's the piece to really really hone in on and to do .
Yeah , um , I want to refer people back to an episode that we did back in the spring of this year . I think it's episode 64 . It's in our sex series we talk about sex in marriage with our friends Aaron and Jenna Zint , and I believe in that episode we actually address the question what is like permissible in marriage ?
And so if you're having to think outside the box about how to engage in sexual intimacy with your partner in more untraditional ways due to , you know , physical limitations , I would just , uh , encourage you to listen to that episode a little bit more . We talk about , um , how to protect , like , what are you actually protecting in marriage ?
And , um , what's off limits in sex in marriage , which has a lot to do with what you both feel good about and what actually contributes to connection , what in sex contributes to a deeper emotional connection between you and your spouse and also doesn't violate anybody else . So , that's really important . I'd I'd encourage you to listen to that episode .
I think it would help . Great question .
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