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A prostitute offers their client a cocktail before having sex with him. What the man doesn't know is that his drink has been laced with LSD and that the entire encounter is being recorded on film. Personnel would watch them having sex with the prostitutes while high on LSD through one way mirrors. In Montreal, a young mother suffering from postpartum depression is reduced to a vegetative state. He was trying to drive my previous life out.
In a federal penitentiary in California, a prisoner dies after being given massive doses of a muscle relaxant to suppress his violent behaviour. These were horrendously damaging experiments. And in fact, they just didn't give a damn about the people who were the subjects of them. These are not scenes made-up in the mind of a novelist or a screenwriter. They are recreations of actual events, examples of top secret mind control experiments funded
by the United States government. This is way out of the realm of fiction or supposition or conspiracy theory or speculation. This is absolute documented fact. The goal of these experiments is to determine if the human mind can be controlled using outside forces, drugs, electroshock, hypnosis. It is a top secret program that reaches terrifying heights in the 1950s and 1960s, but has its roots in the Middle Ages.
In 1484, Heinrich Kramer and James Springer publish A treatise called the Malleus Maleficorum. It describes ways to manipulate a person into confession. It was in fact, among other things, a cross examination manual to extract false confessions from people accused of being witches. Or, consequently, you have here the systematic attempt to find techniques to get people to report that they were things they were not, or to do things that they would not otherwise do.
It is the first, albeit primitive, step towards mind control as an offensive lipid to be used against an unwitting subject. The secret of mind control is to change people outside of their awareness. So they do your bidding without realizing that that's what they're doing. For that kind of a technology you need sophisticated principles either. Of brain control or of mind control?
Welcome, listeners, to another gripping episode of The Dark Mind Detective, the podcast where we unravel the mysteries that lurk within the shadows of the mind. I am your host, Mark, and today we'll be diving deep into the world of mind control as we explore Dave Mcgowan's thrilling work Programmed to kill. Now this is not your typical. True Crime Podcast I consider myself more to be a true crime
variety show. So just imagine a world where thoughts are not entirely your own, where clandestine programs seek to manipulate the very essence of who we are. In this episode we'll navigate the twists and the turns, the
mind bending narrative. Exploring the deep psychological depths, the ethical dilemmas, and the suspense that Program to Kill has to offer, Join me as we peel back the layers of this intricate story, the boundaries of free will, and the profound impact of psychological manipulation. Get ready for a journey that will challenge your perception and keep you on the edge of your seat. The dark minded Detective where enigma of the mind meets the thrilling storytelling of yours truly.
Mark your guide through the mystery that lies beneath the surface. Let's embark on this gripping exploration together. What if I told you there's a book that explores the sinister mind control program? Can you imagine characters unwillingly becoming subjects, facing challenges and dangers beyond their control? Have you ever thought about the layers of complexity that the mind control could add to a narrative?
Are you ready to dwell into a story that raises profound questions about free will and ethical considerations? Can you anticipate the potential consequences of psychological manipulation? What if you could explore a world where thoughts and actions are not entirely your own? How? Would you react to such a narrative that dwells into the the psychological impact on
individuals and society? The term MK Ultra, only one of the many code names used by the US intelligence communities over the years, is commonly used to refer to all CIA sponsored research on mind control. Perhaps the most contentious theory that listeners and concerns A phenomena known about mind control, Project MK Ultra was a covert and illegal human experimentation program undertaken by the US Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, from 1953 to 1973.
It involved many individuals who became subject of psychiatric and drug experimentation without their consent. Some of the notable victims of this project include Frank Olson. Olson was the United States Army biochemist and biological weapon researcher. He was given LSD without his knowledge and consent. In November 1953, part of a CIA experiment and died after
falling from a 13 story window. A week later, Harold Bloor Bloor died as a result of five four methyl lean dioxyamphetamine injection, also known as MDA Whitey Bulger, the notorious crime boss also a victim of MK Ultra projects. Sir Han Sir Han Lawrence Teeter the attorney for Sahan. Sir Han believed that Sir Han was an operating under MK Ultra mind control techniques when he assassinated Robert F Kennedy. Charles Manson Author Tom O'Neill has tied Charles Manson
to the MK Ultra program. Beginning with his time in prison when Manson took part in drug induced psychological experiments run by the Federal government, Stan J Caterbone. Caterbone is a pro SE petitioner who claimed has fallen victim to a criminal civil conspiracy related to MK Ultra patients of doctor Donald Ewan Cameron. Cameron conducted MK Ultra experiments at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal. Nine of his patients sued the CIA in 1980 for treatments as
part of the MK Ultra program. The case was settled out of court in 1988. Patients received compensation, but the CIA did not accept any liability. Ted Kaninsky. Also known as a Unabomber, was indeed a subject of the MK Ultra program. As a promising 16 year old student at Harvard University, Kaninsky participated in a study conducted by psychologist Henry A Murray. This study, which involved brutalizing psychological experiments, was later reported to be part of the CIA. MK Ultra program.
The experiments that Kaczynski was subject to reportedly harsh and for involved verbal abuse, humiliation. These experiments at Harvard span roughly for three years and are believed to have significantly influenced Kaninsky's world view and may have contributed to his transformation into the Unabomber. Kaninsky's involvement in the MK Ultra program was disclosed in correspondence from prison with Professor Elston Chase, who later wrote a book about the Unabomber.
Chase argued that Kaninsky's experiment at Harvard helped shape his anger and legitimize his wrath by the time he graduated all the Elements. That would ultimately transform him into the Unabarmor was in place. Project MK Ultra, initiated by the US Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA in 1950, had several primary goals. The overarching object was to develop was to develop procedures and identify drugs that could be used for mind control and chemical interrogation.
This was largely in response to reports of Soviet Chinese and N Koreans use of mind control techniques on US prisoners of war in Korea. The CIA was interested in using similar methods on their captives and in manipulating foreign leaders with such techniques. One specific goal was to create a Manchurian Candidate, a subject through mind control techniques. This involved the use of various drugs, psychotherapy, hypnosis, and other methods to alter human behavior.
The CIA was also interested in researching how drugs could promote the intoxicating effects of alcohol, rendering the induction of hypnosis easier enhance the ability of individuals to withstand. Torture, corrosion, and produce amnesia, shock, and confusion. The program also aimed to develop a comprehensive capability in the field to convert chemical and biological warfare, which would give the CIAA thorough knowledge of the enemy's theoretical potential.
This involved research and development of chemical and biological radioactive materials capable of employment and condestine operations to control human behavior, although Project MKUltra started out as a research program to formulate defensive measures against enemy mind and behavior control interrogation techniques. Agency officials quickly began
to explore offensive measures. The program included several objectives that involved in experimentation with various drugs, psychotherapy, hypnosis as a way to alter human behavior. Despite the extensive effort, the program was ultimately deemed unsuccessful in achieving this primary goal of mind control.
City, Sydney, Sydney patients of Doctor Donald Ewan Cameron Cameron conducted MK Ultra experiments at Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal. A show will be dedicated to these human experiments that took place. With the consent of the Canadian government, nine of his parent patients sued the CIA in 1980 for their treatment as part of the NK Ultra program. As I said, the case was settled out of court and the CIA of course did not accept any liability. So when the majority of people
hear mind control. They're naturally skeptical of the idea of someone's someone's unseen. Our Western culture really values the idea of free will. It's very embedded in our culture. So people have a a natural skepticism when they hear something like mind control that could be influencing our thoughts, our actions, our behaviors. The basic methodology of mind control was a field many decades ago by George Estebrook, who was a prominent psychiatrist.
He was a prominent psychologist and hypnotist who worked for the American intelligence agencies, and he published his first edition of his book, Hypnotism. The Intelligent reader will understand, Esterbrook teased. His audience in 1943. When I get this book, I will read the important part so you can learn more and as an informed listener, can construct a reasonable, accurate picture by understanding the
fundamentals of mind control. The degree to which any given person is susceptible to mind control is a direct function of that person success ability. To what is known as disassociative states. According to the psychiatric community, Disassociate states is the key to mind control in the book Acid Dream of The Complete Social History of LSD, the CIA in the 60s and Beyond. This is a book.
It's a very captivating book that takes you into the journey of LSD history, its ties to the CIA, the cultural impact, the tumultuous 1960s and beyond. I'm currently reading this book and as I dwell into this comprehensive social history and the revelations about the role of LSD in shaping society. Is nothing short of mind bending, so stay tuned for future episodes as we unravel these mysteries within the pages of Acid Dream. So this is just an introduction.
And as I peel back Dave Mcgowan's great book program, The Kill, and he starts off the introduction of Mind control, and it's the key to how. The book program The Kill fundamentally made me relook at the typical or the mainstream narrative of serial killers. Many of these narratives of serial killers, when you start doing research on them, things don't quite add up. We'll be exploring mind control
as hence this episode. Also, I have a few goals with my podcast and with my work as one to archive as much of the interesting. Videos, things that I find, you know, books, you know, reading from these books, a lot of things are getting lost. Like, you know, I've been researching these topics for a very long time and stuff that I used to be able to look up very easily is now gone. So I spend a lot of time on the way back machine and I'll find
stuff. So my goal is also to archive this information, the entering information. Like, sometimes I'll find an old documentary from the 1970s. And I'll post it this way to preserve it so people in the future can have access to it for research. And I and I have quite a lot of it, so I've been planning to start breaking it down and posting it. So if you see some strange mind control videos coming up once in a while, it's the key purpose is to archive it before it gets
lost. So recently I looked into a folder I collected and I have 46 one hour videos from roughly from the 1960s. To both the 1980s regarding mind control, CIA experimentation and things like that. Some of the videos are in really terrible shape, but the audio is in OK shape. So if anything, I'm going to try to preserve the audio because I think this is very important information because so much stuff gets lost down the rabbit hole in the memory hole. And then it's lost forever.
And I noticed that they rewrite a lot of stuff. And as they rewrite stuff, it becomes more and more watered down. And I've been seeing that a lot. And we live in a kind of a strange time. If you're listening to me, I'm in Canada. News is blocked. I am. I'm. We. I've had someone send me today as I speak a Wall Street Journal article. Now, Wall Street Journal is a pretty mainstream reputable. Newspaper. One of the best newspapers in my opinion.
And I was not allowed to see the article because I'm in Canada. So we live in very, very strange time. So my job really, and I can't emphasize this enough, is 1 to tell stories, make interesting story, give you food for thought. I want you, the listeners, to not to be a conspiracy theorist. I hate that term. It gets thrown down. It gets thrown a lot as a pejorative. It's really stupid because any criminal case really is a conspiracy case, right?
Especially if they're trying to say a bunch of criminals came together and plan to do something that's a conspiracy, right? So that that term itself has been weaponized to people that are thinking, yes, they are some stupid conspiracy theories out there. I'm not going to get into them right there because if you, I just don't want to deal with trolls. If I say I don't believe in this conspiracy or that conspiracy, they are some stupid conspiracies out there.
But that being said, there's a lot of stuff, there's a lot of factual information that's being hidden. Like even the mainstream news. I couldn't post about a 13 year old girl that went missing in my community because the news was blocked. I try to post it over 6 times on different platforms. It was blocked and taken down at every step. That is not a conspiracy, that is a fact. So like I said, with my platform I have a a few fundamental goals 1. To archive important information.
Historical information. You, the listener, I believe that you listen to my podcast because you're a thinking person, right? I want to give you food for thought. I want you to see past the narrative that's being fed to you. I'm not telling you to listen and believe everything I say. Do your own research and if you believe that I put out any information that you can refute, I'll be more than happy to listen to it. So thank you so much. We're going to end it here today.
I'm going to do a little bit each day because this is kind of a heavy subject and I want to give you enough to think about to digest and and but too much. It's kind of like digesting like a big pot roast dinner because these are very heavy subjects that have very serious implication. And I hope over time I can build a pretty compelling case that most things are not what you think they are. So, thank you so much. My name is Mark.
I am the dark mind detective, and I'm honored for you to be listening to my stories and my podcast. I thank you so much. You have a wonderful day. About LSD and the disastrous effects that it can have than anybody else at the time knew and they were out there like a Pied Piper or a Johnny Appleseed throwing out money to encourage research in this area. Mental hospitals are a favorite target for CIA experiments where unknowing patients are given
massive doses of LSD. The studies are so secret that often not even the patient's personal physicians know what is being tested. And what was hideous about those experiments is that they were using a population of people who were suffering from mental illnesses, and then when the people would later report to their psychologists that they felt like their minds were being controlled.
This was used as a reason to keep them in the institutions even longer, although technically they were correct. And LSD is only part of the MK Ultra story. Declassified CIA documents reveal funding between 1953 and 1964 for 149 different sub projects, many of which combine drugs with other forms of mind control. The basic idea is that you soften up the person's mind and then you can get in there and use other techniques, which would include hypnosis, pain, electric shock, sensory
deprivation and isolation. Straight verbal brainwashing and threats to control them and manipulate them however you want. So the drugs were just part of the mix? In the mid 1950s, the CIA learns of just such a kitchen sink approach to mind control. That's already under way at the Allen Memorial Institute at McGill University in Montreal, Canada. Their psychiatrist, Doctor Ewan Cameron, is attempting to cure mental illness using a process called deep patterning.
He had some ideas that if you could deep pattern the human mind, if you could wipe the human mind completely clean of all thoughts, then you could pattern in new behaviors. To the CIA, deep patterning also has obvious significance for intelligence work. In 1957, they begin funding Dr. Cameron's work. What Cameron did at the CI as
instigation. Was to put together a specialized 3 step brainwashing experiment which was conducted on unwitting people that violated every ethical standard that the medical profession had been formulating for the past 50 years. In 1957, the CIA begins funding the work of Canadian psychiatrist Doctor Ewan Cameron after reading about his new and radical brand of psychotherapy.
You would basically put somebody to sleep with drugs for many, many, many days, give them massive doses of electric shock therapy, literally hundreds of times the normal dosage. And basically you would reduce the person literally to a vegetable. And the idea clinically was you would wipe out either delusions or depression or psychiatric symptoms. And then when the person came back to their normal self, which would take months and months and months, the psychiatric symptoms would be gone.
This kind of clinically induced amnesia is of special interest to the CIA. Doctor Cameron agrees to take his treatment one step further. In addition to de patterning his client, he would attempt to re pattern in new thoughts and behaviors. The CIA funded this experiment because if you could take a person who was an enemy agent, erase that personality, and put in a new personality, you have a convert. At the CI as instigation, Cameron devises a three-step brainwashing experiment.
The three parts consisted of, first, what he called depatterning, which was the use of LSD and intensive electroshocks. That's phase one is wiping the slate clean. Second, was trying to program in new patterns of behavior by playing tape recorded messages hundreds and hundreds of thousands of times. The final phase was a two to three-week period where Cameron would put patients to sleep using barbiturates to try to suppress any recollection of what had been done to them.
It sounds crazy, It sounds like a Frankenstein type process, but the fact is he was president of the American Psychiatric Association and nobody called his act at the time. In fact he did it to his his paying patients. People paid for this treatment and unbelievable kind of thing. There were screams coming out of the of the hospital that wing. I interviewed nurses and doctors who said we thought something was going on but you couldn't question Doctor Cameron.
Between 1957 and 1964. Doctor Cameron conducts his mind control experiments on hundreds of unwitting victims, including Linda McDonald. Friends have told me because I don't have any memory of that life that I lived. I probably had postpartum depression, but nobody could really pin it down because it didn't last. And so it took about two years in and out of my GPS, my general practitioner's office, to finally say, look, we can't figure it out, we don't know what's.
No matter with you, why don't you go to Montreal? There's this famous doctor there and he'll give you an assessment. In 1963, at age 25, Linda McDonald is suffering from what we know today were classic symptoms of postpartum depression. She goes to Doctor Ewan Cameron for a three-week evaluation. Within three weeks, he diagnosed me as an acute schizophrenic.
And he told the children's father that unless the children's father agreed to let me have this treatment, which he didn't go into any detail discussing, then I would be institutionalized for the rest of my life. It's before we started talking about informed consent notions and so on. You, the doctor said. Do this. You did it.
One of the great ironies for me of the whole Cameron CIA story is that the people who were victimized thought they were going to the finest psychiatric hospital in Canada. Most of them were not suffering from profound schizophrenia or some psychiatric disorder that that might justify some of the more intrusive techniques that were used on them. These were people who were suffering from. Run-of-the-mill common psychiatric ailments.
Only by reading her medical records can Linda know what happened to her more than 30 years ago. It begins in April 1963 with a deep patterning program conducted in what Cameron calls the Sleep Room. He sent me to the sleep room and in five weeks I had 109 electroconvulsive shock treatments. And each time she got a treatment, she got six times the normal dose. So that was literally over 600 times the normal dose that you would get in one ECT treatment?
And mega doses of a hallucinogenic drugs, LSD included, all at the same time. I had 86 comatose days, deep coma, sleep and when I woke up five weeks later. This is according to my file, because, of course, I can't remember any of this. I was a vegetable. I was. I'd never been in this world before. I I was a baby completely. I didn't know who I was. I was incontinent.
I didn't know anything. During repatterning, Linda is dosed with a number of hallucinogenic drugs and depressants, while a speaker under her pillow plays a continuous audio loop. The tape loops that were over and over and over and over were literally for weeks at a time. He was trying to drive my previous life out, to take it to 0, and the objective was to then put another personality into
this vegetable. Now I don't know whether he succeeded because I don't know how much of the life that I've lived, certainly in the 10 years after, was being dictated by messages in my. I had I I don't know and I'll never know. When Linda McDonald is released from Allen Memorial five months later, she has no memory of life before Doctor Cameron. At the end of the massive ECT treatment, the D patterning and so on, she was unable to
recognize her husband. Didn't know that she was married, couldn't state her own name. Had no idea where she was or what year it was. The children at this time. We're being taken care of because of course I was younger than all of these children. I had a big grown up body and chronologically I was 26 years old, but I'd only been in this world a few months. After her release, Linda McDonald receives no follow up treatment from Doctor Cameron. Other doctors refused to take
her case. A lot of doctors knew or had a sense that something very covert and unhealthy was happening at the Allen Memorial with Doctor Cameron and they just did not want to have anything to do with anybody or any file or any connection. You got to remember, it's not just that they were used as experimental Guinea pigs in untested and damaging experiments. They were denied. Therapies that could have helped
them. Slowly on her own, Linda McDonald begins to create a new life for herself, completely unaware of what she now knows about the treatments she received. The children's father taught me to read and to play the guitar again. I I used to know how to do that in the other life. And to drive the car and and my sister-in-law taught me how to cook. She taught me how to scramble eggs. And I was so excited about that.
In 1984, Linda sees an article in her local newspaper about a lawsuit against the CIA and Allen Memorial. The litigants are nine former patients of doctor Ewan Cameron. I'll never forget it because there was a picture of this man and then this big caption that said Doctor Ewan Cameron brainwashing Allen Memorial all over the front page. Well, I my heart stopped because I knew he was my doctor. I knew that's where I'd been and I started to read.
And by the end of the page, I was just shaking. I was absolutely traumatized. Linda files her own lawsuit and joins over eighty former Cameron patients who will eventually be awarded compensation by the Canadian government. Among the victims is Velma Orlikov, the wife of a Canadian Member of Parliament. But for every involuntary human subject who is able to uncover his or her role in CIA experiments, experts believe there are many more who will
never know. There's been thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people subjected to really damaging, unethical experimentation. And indeed, thousands of people who have suffered as a result of government mind control experiments are probably 99% unaware. Beginning in the fall of 1963, there is little that can be known about U.S. government mind control experiments. That's when MK Ultra is replaced by Project MK Search, which absorbs many of the ongoing mind
control experiments. Dr. Ewan Cameron continues his deep patterning treatments until mid 1964 when he suddenly and unexpectedly retires. He dies of a heart attack while mountain climbing in 1967. M KS search continues until 1972, as do companion mind control projects funded by the Army, Navy and Air Force. There the paper trail gets very
cold. In 1972 when Richard Holmes was leaving the CIA, he he did a lot of destruction of documents, the mind control records with among those ordered to be destroyed. In 1975, after President Ford appoints the Rockefeller Commission to investigate past CIA abuses, including their drug program, reporter John Marks begins searching for any remaining CIA documents relating to mind control experiments.
And when the climate had changed, because there had been a congressional committees investigating the CIA and the like, I filed this this Freedom of Information request, which tried to find these particular records. Somebody out in the archives discovered four or five boxes of records, which were mainly the financial records and with the justifications that went along with them. It is these financial records that form the basis for what we
now. Know I would love to have full knowledge, but those who knew weren't telling. And I took this as far as I could. I would say we probably know about 30% of what the CIA did. Those experiments stopped. However, in terms of the record available to us in the maybe early to mid 1970s, I don't know any researcher who's had any success in finding anything out about CIA experiments since then. And we may never know. Because what's left of these documents is currently classified.
One of the real fundamental abuses of secrecy in our government still today is the misuse of national security. Not to protect information that actually has some bearing on the National Defense of our country, like how to make an atomic bomb, but rather. To hide misconduct and embarrassment about misdeeds that have been done by the government. This is not a a pleasant world we live in, you know, and there are a lot of nasty people and things in the world and we need protection from them.
But you don't get protection by becoming the Guinea pigs of the forces you pay to protect you. And you can't save your mind by having the people who protect you take your mind. But secrets die hard. And so do the men who keep the secrets. Doctor Sidney Gottlieb. When I deposed him in in Virginia several years ago, he was completely unrepentant, and it's chilling to sit across the table from the man who was the architect of so much human suffering and have him say I was just a patriot.
One of the great tragedies is that no professional organization. Has censured any of its members for their involvement in these proceedings. Nobody has lost the job as a result of it, nobody has lost status or prestige as a result of it and therefore the message is do it because you won't be punished for it. And the question remains, is the government still doing it? One of the things that was interesting during the 50s is they were 10 years ahead of the popular research effort.
My guess is that they've tried to stay that far ahead. In fact, they would say they've been irresponsible. They're not doing their jobs well if they haven't stayed that far ahead of the curve. We know from articles in U.S. News and World Report and a magazine called Defense Electronics that there's a lot of experimentation and development of non lethal weapons right up to the present. Non lethal weapons are various forms of energy and radiation, sound, electromagnetic, and so on.
They're beamed at a target's head or other areas of the body to control their behavior. Make them sick, Disable them in some way without killing them. But is it being tested on the knowing subjects, as it was so abusively in the 1950s? What we know for a fact now, from a wide range of documentation, is that there's been experimentation on unwetting civilians. Involving biological weapons, radiation experimentation, LSD and other forms of mind control
experimentation. Given all of that, it's basically implausible that there hasn't been some experimentation on unwitting citizens using non lethal weapons technology. The present speculation has its basis in the facts of the past. What brainwashing and mind control experimentation have taught us in the 20th century is a rather cruel paradox that for every advance we make in mental medicine, we can take a step backward for people who want to use those advances for purposes
of control. We're using a standard. We're using a prism to judge this stuff that didn't exist at the time. Now, that doesn't justify everything and there are gross human rights violations available here, but I think at this point it's a chapter that the United States would be better to close. Now is a. Really thorough public review of the history of medical and psychiatric contracting for mind control purposes. And we need all this out on the table. We need it acknowledged
otherwise, experts. Say history is doomed to repeat itself and bring to pass a prophecy made by Aldous Huxley in his 1932 novel Brave New World. Brave New World said. We're going to voluntarily turn over our. Minds and our beliefs and our thoughts to people. And Huxley was right. Unless we do something to protect our own individual integrity, or at least our children. The former head of. MK Ultra doctor Sidney Gottlieb testified before a Senate committee in 1977.
He admitted that the CIA had administered LSD and other drugs to people without their knowledge, but insisted mind control was an important part of the Cold War. Gottlieb died in 1999 at the age of 80 without ever publicly expressing any regret for his role in the experiments.