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Giorgio, Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight.
Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke finally caves to pressure, canceling the visa of a Palestinian woman who praised the October seven massacre and even thanked Allah for keeping her alive long enough to witness Hamas's rampage. The Federal Court told sex is non binary, along with other bizarre contradictions about what a woman is. I am, of course, referring to the case of Giggle versus Tickle.
Don't miss my.
Interview with Giggle app founder sal Grover coming up. It's her first interview since her appeal was heard. This week, and Israel's security Cabinet approves Benjamin Netnia, who's plan to occupy Gaza City. But first to breaking news. Within the last hour, it has been announced the Australian visa for a Palestinian woman who supported the October seven massacre has finally been canceled. Tony Burke made the announcement after this
woman's history was exposed by The Herald Son. Now you have to ask how was this woman even considered Four of visa in the first place, and why weren't better background checks in order? And it adds to the question of what sort of a country do we want to live in now? This is something I have asked myself many times since October seven, twenty twenty three, because week in week out, these anti Israel protests bring shame to Australia.
Our values are being eroded by those who hate us, and clearly our national security.
Is at risk because of it. Is it too late to save it?
I don't know, But what I do know is labor has put us in this position.
Who is a bringing into the country now?
This woman from Palestine monazar Head praise the October seven massacre and even thanked Allah for keeping her alive long enough to witness Harmasa's deadly attack on Israel. Yet she was somehow granted a visa to come here now, despite posting this picture on social media the day after the attack.
Saying we woke up and got God's kingdom.
She posted a photo of terrified festival goers with the words praise be to Allah, who has kept us alive to see this day.
So really an answer to.
My earlier question, this is the type of person labor is accepting to come here, and the opposition was today rightly asking questions.
They are weak, they are hopeless.
Tony Burke, quite frankly, if the visa is not canceled today should step aside.
He should resign.
If you support the slaughter of innocent men and women, you're not welcome in this country.
On what planet do we think it's okay Pete to be importing self declared jew haters, self declared terrorists, sympathizers into a country. That is not the way to build social cohesion. And look, of course, I Labor are repeat offenders.
Three thousand gardens were handed visas with little to no security checks. We knew it was a risk, we knew what would happen bringing people in from those countries, some of whose values may not represent our own. But this is a bigger issue for us than the war raging in the Middle East. This is about Australia and the type of country we have become. We've lost our way, We are a cesspit of social anarchy and our values
have been eroded. And this is what was on full display to the world on Sunday when ninety thousand anti Israel protesters shut down the Harbor Bridge, flags of Hamas and the Taliban were waived, a photo of the Ayatola of Iran was on display, and death to the IDF
was chanted. High profile activists Nasamanschi essentially gave Australia the middle finger, writing on social media, whose bridge our bridge from the river to the sea, and these people are laughing in our faces, They are laughing at our core values. You don't have to be Jewish to see the threat that is unfolding in front of our very eyes. Anthony Arberanesi is clearly all but gearing up to recognize Palestine. And that might not mean much on a local front, but on the international front.
It means everything.
It basically says Palestine has a right to exist, Israel does not, and for us at home, it only emboldens those who seek to cause us harm. In fact, the PM's response to the Harbor Bridge protest tells you everything you need to know.
Yesterday's march was peaceful and was an opportunity for people to express their concern about what is happening in Gaza, and the images that we've seen peaceful.
Really, I mean, this is a Prime Minister who has had his own envoys report into anti Semitism sitting on his desk for weeks now, and has done absolutely nothing about it. But of course we're used to the lax approach. Where was the hardline stance when where are the Jews?
Or whatever was shouted at the steps of the Sydney Opera House, or when a hate preacher told us he was elated at the October seven massacre, or when synagogues were firebombed and other acts of anti Semitism across the country, or when nurses allegedly set on camera that they won't treat Jewish patients they would kill them again. Is this the sort of country we want to live in now?
In my opinion, I believe a lot of what we are witnessing comes from the fact that the multiculturalism experiment has failed in Australia.
We have brought people into this country.
Some who hate us, some who hate our country, some who hate our values, and some who have absolutely no interest in assimilating. And this in particular pertains to the un impact of radical Islamism. Now, of course, most Muslims live peacefully in our society.
I am not denying that.
However, radical Islamism is incompatible with Western democracies.
Until we do more to stop importing people.
Here who do not share our values, I fear nothing will change because their culture is so far removed from our own.
It is a culture of hate and it is toxic.
It is in sacred Islamic texts like the Quran that prescribe violence, and prescribe violence against Jews. The Sahib Bukari states that there is a Jew hiding behind me, so
kill him for example. Now, of course many Muslims would argue that that passage or others are not a command or an incitement, rather a prediction, but it presents a real cultural challenge for Australia, and based on what we have witnessed here since October seven, I don't think we have control over the culture are trying to create here anymore. The new norm is flags of terror groups and chance of death to the IDF.
And this is.
Australia where our security and safety is at risk and our sense of identity that our ANZACs fought so hard for is being eroded. And this is why it just absolutely beggars belief that a Palestinian woman who supported the October seven massacre would be granted a visa to come here. A spokesperson for Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has told Sky News late this afternoon that the Department has advised
the Office that the visa was canceled today. The reasons have been communicated directly to the applicant.
Well, g common sense at last, at last, But why did.
It take the Herald Sun newspaper to expose this in the first place and for the Coalition to put the Minister under pressure before Tony Burke actually acted. Otherwise nothing, nothing at all would have changed, And earlier.
A spokesperson for Berg said.
The government is serious in its view about not importing hatred.
Well, it's too late, minister.
You have already important hatred and we are all paying the price for it. Well, there's never been a more important case currently before the courts than Giggle versus Tickle, because depending on the outcome of an appeal, it could have far ranging ramifications for Australia and would impact every single one of us, from our freedom of speech to
the way men and women are legally defined. Now right now, if you're a man and you identify as female, congratulations, you can legally be classified as a woman, and if you dare to challenge that, well you may just get.
Hold in front of a court. Now.
I have sat in disbelief watching the Giggle Versus Tickle appeal in the Federal Court this week, where biological man roxand Tickle argued they had injured feelings after being booted out of a female only app and have been misgendered.
Seriously, give me a break.
This is the argument running through the courts now that if your feelings are hurt, you can claim damages. It tells you everything you need to know about this dystopian universe.
We are living in this.
Whole appeal and the case prior has been nothing short of a cloud show. At Giggle for Girls founder Sal Grover, who will join me in the studio shortly, You're not going to want to miss that interview. Well, she's still going through the legal system all because a judge last.
Year claimed sex was changeable.
Now, if someone can please explain how that works if you're born with a penis and suddenly you claim to be a woman, I'd really love to know.
Please tell me.
Yet, much of the appeal in Giggle Versus Tickle has centered around the definition of sex of a woman and what it means to be a woman.
The court heard Tickle submitted.
This photo to the app and that the low cut top and hair down indicated that they are a woman, that it should have been a.
Dead giveaway of sorts.
Well, sal Grover immediately checked the photo and barred Roxandtickle from membership. And so here we are today now haven't listened to some of the most bizarre, nonsensical contradictions to come out of this week's appeal.
Council for Equality.
Australia Ruth Higgins SC told the court the word sex in the Sex Discrimination Act is neither a binary concept nor one that's biologically fixed when designated at birth. She went on to say sex is a way of classifying people along a scale between a man at one end and a woman at the other, but as a matter of ordinary meaning, the statute is agnostic as to where
persons are plotted along that scale. So basically, anywhere you assign yourself along that scale of male to female makes you want you want to be apparently, and this is frightening.
It's really frightening.
Because it totally blurs the distinction between the two and the fact that there is even a proposal that sex is non binary and that it should be interpreted that way under our laws should concern everyone. Counsel for the Sex Discrimination Commissioner silly a winner to even argue that
the word woman in the Act included trans women. Counsel for Roxanne Tickle Browner Godding said sal Grover had participated in some fifty interviews in relation to the case, and in each of those she used the male pronouns for Miss Tickle.
That her conduct has.
At the very least been seriously aggravating and has caused Miss Tickle injured feelings.
The aggravation and injured feelings have mounted up blow by blow.
This is not just deeds legitimizing of gender, but a delegitimizing of humanity. But listen to this. This one's really the pearl are out of them all.
This is not a.
Case of asking anyone to change their opinions. It is not policing the opinions that someone can hold.
Well, hang on, that is exactly what it is.
It is policing opinions anyone who dares to challenge the lefts warped fantasyland narrative of gender of what is a biological fixed reality is policed in this country and hold in front of a court.
Why because the law says so.
Julia Gillard and mended the Sex Discrimination Act in twenty thirteen and remove the definitions of sex man and woman.
So discrimination is defined, but sex is not.
So how can we know what gender identity is when our laws have erased those definitions?
And here we are today.
Debating whether a biological man can be a woman because our laws currently suggest they can be. Now, in my opinion, it says that men's feelings are more important than women's. It says that men can have legal protections while women protections are taken away. And this is why this appeal is so important. If hurt feelings becomes a legitimate argument, if that stands up, it will set a precedent for any one of us who challenges the gender narrative.
As JK.
Rowling put it so perfectly, made the best woman win. But what is a woman Australia does not know?
Now?
As I said, you don't want to miss my interview with sal Grover coming up, but in the meantime let's get into it. Joining me is Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace. Andrew, thanks for your time. Look, I want to begin with that Palestinian woman who praised the October seven massacre. Now she was granted a visa to come here, which the Minister, Tony Burke said late this afternoon has now been canceled.
But well done to the work of the Herald's son for exposing this and for the Coalition for putting him under pressure. Otherwise nothing would have happened. We've got three thousand gardens here already with little to no security checks. What does it say about border security under labor.
Well, what it demonstrates, Dnika, and thanks for having me on, is that there are there's a rule for one and there's a rule for others. Just last year in December, Tony Burke denied a visa to Aleshaked, who was the former Justice Minister for Israel, on the grounds that she was going to threaten social cohesion. Then in June this year he denied a visa for Hillel Fuld on the
same basis. And yet here he has just approved the visa for this Palaestinian woman who's provided some appalling commentary in relation to the October seven events, and was and is a supporter of a listed terrorist organization. Now you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. But what A does continue to demonstrate is that this government continues to take inconsistent approaches depending on what your belief is.
Yeah, look, I completely agree with you. And again it's not like you would have done anything, probably not unless it had been exposed by the Herald's son and the Coalition put him under immense pressure today. Otherwise it wouldn't be having this conversation. Now, look, I want to ask you about Israel's security Cabinet this afternoon voted to approve a proposal for the IDF to occupy Gaza City.
Here was the Israeli Prime Minister speaking on Fox.
Well, Israel teake control of all of Gaza.
We intend to in order to assure our security, remove Hamas there, enable the population to be free of Gaza. We don't want to be there as a governing body. We want to hand it over to Arab forces.
Andrew the IDF has avoided entering much of the city since the start of this war. It will likely require a mass evacuation of the area, where about one million Gazans reside. What is your take on this development.
Well, it's hard to judge from Australia, but my best reading is that this is an attempt to effectively put pressure on Hamas, another form of pressure. We just simply can't have a situation where Hamas stay in power as the ruling body in Gaza. I don't think that anybody wants that. The Palestinians don't want that. The only body
person or people who want that is Hamas itself. But it is very clear Western countries across the world have been clear that we cannot see a situation where Hamas are continuing or have the ability to continue to govern in Gaza. So I think ultimately this is another form of pressure that Prime Minister Netanyahu is putting on Hamas.
And look, time will tell, but the outcome of the Security Cabinet meeting today it would indicate that the civilians will be moved from that particular area within Gaza and Ghaza Sea before the Israel military seek to route what's left of Hamas out.
Yeah.
All right, well, look, we're we're going to be watching this one very closely. Andrew Wallace, we have to leave it there. Thank you very much for joining me on the show this evening.
Thanks Amika.
Well, as I said earlier, there's never been a more important case currently before the courts than Giggle versus Tickle, because depending on the outcome of an appeal, it could have far ranging consequences, from our freedom of speech to the way men and women are legally defined. And joining me now is Giggle founder Sal Grover. Sal, It's good to see you. Thank you so much for joining me. How are you?
Firstly, Oh God, I am exhausted. I'm angry, but I'm optimistic. I'm exhaustive because litigation is an exhausting roller coaster that you really wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy. I'm angry because of legislators and institutions and a lot of the media just abandoning me and women and lesbians in general. But I'm very optimistic because we went into court with reality, the truth, and I think the truth eventually wins.
Well, I mean, we certainly hope, so we really really hope. So, I mean, you know, when you think about it, you are fighting against what is a fixed biological reality. You have the weight of the women of Australia who understand what a woman is, understand gender on your shoulders right now, how important is this because I don't think that people really quite understand the ramifications of what's going on here.
If you have just been hearing about this case just kind of in the background, it's this silly little case called giggle vticle about an app and it's like, well, who really cares. That's not what this case is about. This case is about whether reality and truth are in law, whether women are accurately defined in law, and that the law is working as it was intended to provide rights
and protections that women need. So, for example, you have the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who is who intervened in this case, and they are arguing that not only can men be women, therefore men should be able to go into all women only space as services, sports men, heterosexual men can be lesbians if that's how they identify, and therefore can go and invade any.
Lesbian event or space.
They're also saying that men who claim to be women need pregnancy protections. Now you should just by hearing that, you should know how absolutely absurd that sounds. But basically what is happening is the Sex Discrimination Commission, a branch of the government, is taking an ideological approach, which is gender ideology and trying to implement it into law to give men rights and protections that one they're not entitled to too they don't need, while simultaneously taking away provisions
and rights from women that we do need. So anytime you go into a change room, a bathroom, even if you don't play women's sport, if you watch it, if you watch men's sport anything, well you see that there are some sort of sex segregation in society. They are trying to completely destroy that and that women will have absolutely no avenue to have any sort of protections.
That we need.
And this is a scary part because it affects everybody. Everybody in this country who has a partner, a mother, you know where everyone's got a mother. You know, every woman in your life could be seriously impacted by this. I want to talk about the Sex Discrimination Commission side of it. I mean, the fact that you're up against the.
Sex Discrimination Commission is a laugh in itself. What is the point of.
Having a sex discrimination commissioner who doesn't seem to know what a woman is?
This is exactly right.
The reality is that sex is immutable, It is binary, it is male and female, there is nothing else. If you don't understand that, you have no business being the Sex Discrimination Commissioner. Anna Cody is currently the Sex Discrimination Commissioner. I think she should be forced to resign. She wants to interpret the law through an intersectional DEI lens okay, go and do that somewhere with de in intersectionality in the Sex Discrimination Act.
If you are the custodian of.
It, it is your job to protect the reality of sex.
And if you're not doing that, you should not be there.
No, because I mean, what's the point of having that role then if you can't if you know, the parameters are just ridiculous.
Now, look, I want to go through some of the appeal.
There were little bits that really stood out to me this week that I'm sure the same with you. Firstly, the Council for Equality Australia Ruth Higgins SC told the court that the word sex is non binary extraordinary in itself and this is what she said, and we've got the quote here. Sex is a way of classifying people along a scale between a man at one end and a woman at the other. But as a matter of ordinary meaning, the statute is agnostic as to where persons
are plotted along that scale. So the idea of this is actually very problematic, highly concerning, because it actually blurs the distinction between a man and a woman.
Under lawndred percent and what she said there with that's not a legal argument, that's an ideological statement. She was the barrister for Equality Australia. So Equality Australia is one of the biggest lgbt QI blah blah blah organizations in the country, incredibly well funded both from taxpayers and from private donors. They got their start by arguing for same sex marriage, so they very much knew what sex was once upon a time. They won that fight and they've
pivoted to now trying to erase sex in law. And what is the point of a sex discrimination act If it's saying there is no difference between a man and a woman, or you can just be anywhere along this invisible line you can identify into the other category, why have a sex discrimination act?
Honestly, but this is a worry because it's going to blur the lines between what a man and a woman is legally. And we're having this argument in Australia right now.
I mean, and we're so far behind the zeitgeist that's happening in other countries. The UK, they won this legally, in the US, they've won this politically. In Australia they are just holding onto this and it's our politicians just being so cowardly that they won't get involved and do anything.
They sit there and try and say that it's a.
Culture war and no one really cares about it. The Monash University professor Paula Gerbert was quoted in an article saying that no one in Australia cares about trans rats. Now that might very well be true, but they actually care about women's rights, and they care about freedom of speech, and they care about freedom of belief and everything that's
happening right now is against that. And one way I can prove that people in this country care about it is that I've just raised over a million dollars in crowdfunding. One regular people who have helped pay for the case because they want female only spaces, they want the freedom to be able to acknowledge reality, and they don't want ideology being pushed down their throats in the workplace, in school, just when they're.
Walking down the street.
So people do care about this and the longer that media and politicians.
Ignore that, I think the stupider that they're going to look.
And I want to get to media in a minute, but just on this point.
One of the arguments raised by Roxannetickles lawyers this week was that Roxanntickle had injured feelings. Now I find it extraordinary that a case in a court of law can be based on feelings.
But this, this is where we're heading to.
And again it infringes on freedom of speech in my view, because I could say something to a person and they go, You've hurt my feelings, and suddenly like what's happened here? You get holed in front of a court of law or in front of a tribunal, and that is the very problem.
Well, I mean, really the whole case is about feelings because he feels like a woman, so then he's a woman and he feels hurt, so pay money. Look, one of the things that they have said that why I should pay damages of up to one hundred thousand dollars is because apparently, in fifty interviews I have called him a man.
Now I disagree. I think it's many more interviews than that.
But look, you may be hurt by somebody stating reality. That is a you problem. If you can't accept reality, you're going to have.
To deal with that.
It is not an insult to call someone a man, nor am I seeing it with any intent to cause harm or be insulting. It is just injective, observable fact about reality. He can think whatever he wants about himself. I can't stop him. I wouldn't want to stop him, because if you're living in a free society, a man can call himself a woman.
He can think he's a woman. That's fine.
What he can't do in a free society.
Is forced me to believe it.
So the person who's actually experiencing harm here is me. But this is what happens with gender ideology. Every claim it makes the opposite is true. Yes, it's not men who claim to be women who are being discriminated against right now.
It's women.
If you don't allow us to have women only spaces, you are discriminating against us on the basis of sex. If you think that being that being called a man is harmful and you want to punish me, I am the one being harmed because I can't tell the truth or at the very least my opinion.
So no, it's absolutely terrifying.
They also want to punish me because I laughed during cross examination in the first round, and it's like, well, if that holds up in court, why would anybody ever be a witness ever again, you wouldn't, you would not boss, you could get punished. So that can completely changes the justice system in this country. So there's two really important things happening here. Which is obviously women's rights, but this
freedom of speech is just as important. I mean, we don't have a society without freedom of speech.
No, we certainly don't. Before we let you go, what happens now.
So now we wait while we also sort of start the war plan of the High Court. So we'll get a decision in the next few months, probably by December. I don't know any more about it until then. If let's go with the worst case scenario first, if I lose, I will take it to the High Court.
Yep.
If I win, the other side, I have no doubt, probably feels just as strongly about that.
Now.
The interruption that could be that the decision is so strong that the court says, actually, no, there's no more work to do here. But if they say to me that there is just no biological Sex ex Discrimination Act.
That's an error in Lauren. So that streets to the High Court. So if it's to the High Court, it's another million dollars.
It's about eighteen months of madness. It's more time with women's rates are up in the air, and ultimately it's Australia being absolutely humiliated on the world stage that they are holding on to an incredibly unpopular ideology that is completely destroying everybody's instincts and rates.
Well, I mean in the Senate only last week the Minister for Women didn't want to talk about what's in the Sex Discrimination Act because of harm reasons.
So this is exactly where we're at. Sal Grover, I've said it before. You are wonderful.
Congratulations on your fight and I can imagine it hasn't been easy, but you've got the weight of women of Australia on your side, so keep fighting and we're certainly backing you all the way. Thank you so much for joining me today.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, she's brilliant, isn't cheap?
Coming up after the break, labor has quietly lowered the minimum English test mark to be eligible for some visas. What does this mean for our already out of control migration rate. I'll put it to my panel Tina McQueen and Tanya Mahalic.
Next welcome back.
Joining me now is Sky News contributor Tina McQueen and New South Wales Independent MP Tanya Mahalic, kind of both. He here we go for another week now, Look, I just want to get your thoughts firstly on that breaking news at the Australian visa for a Palestinian woman who
supported the Hamas massacre has finally been canceled. Tony Burke making that announcement after this woman's history was exposed by The Herald's Sun. You know, Tanya, you got to ask how was this woman even considered for a visa in the first place.
Well, the big concerning issue is that it took Mikayla Kashi and the Liberal Party the Coalition to expose this.
How many other.
People are like this woman under the radar that are coming into Australia with the same thoughts.
So well done to the Liberal Party.
It was their campaign the only reason that Tony Burke reacted and finally withdrew the visa this afternoon.
Is because of the media pressure in the backlash exactly, that's.
The any reason, absolutely, because otherwise we would not be having this conversation because nobody would have known.
About it, Tina. But why would the proper checks and balances not in place yet?
Again, it's frightening. We don't know how many more checks and balances have not been done by the name Mikaela cash is. You know she's going to really work hard at this and uncover more and more. So the country is a little bit safer.
I agree.
Well, the coalition, as he said, very very strong on this today. Well let's move on now. It's all over for the new South Wales Member for Kayama, thank goodness. Convicted rapist Gareth Waters resigned from parliament after being found guilty of one count of sexual intercourse without consent and three counts of indecent assault against two young men he'd met through his role as the MP. Tanya, you know
he wasn't going anywhere. He refused to step aside. Parliament was sent to vote on his expulsion this morning, but he pulled the pin just before it's finally come to his senses.
Well, I don't know. I think reality dawned on him.
It's certainly got a very big legal bill as of yesterday because there was a cost order against him by the Court of Appeals.
The Chief Justice Anthony.
Bell absolutely throughout every argument that he and his legal team put up. Look, this has been a really terrible time for our parliament and I know that I do want to make a comment. There are two victims involved in this that have suffered greatly throughout the trial, prior to the trial, and.
Throughout this whole saga.
So I think Parliament has a right to restore its integrity and I congratulate both the Premier, the leader of the Government and do the opposition on how they managed this. They came out strongly, very clear and had throughout the last two weeks. Ever since Gareth Ward was convicted of the sexual assault defenses and reminded to be incarcerated around in custody.
Bail was revoked and I.
Mean, you know, I think Chief Justice Santony Bell summed it up really well. The people of Cayama will be reenfranchised now, they'll actually have an opportunity to have a member of Parliament that's not incarcerated in parliament.
Gareth will appeal, but he's been a protected species for a long time by the left of the Liberal Party. Don Harmon Gladysbury in particular protected him, so he always thought he could do less.
Should make it clear this is prior to y Yes, you know, he's always been.
And if I'm not going to bash, go like everyone else, because there's always three sizes, he's, he's and the truth somewhere in the middle. So we'll see the appeal goes.
Oh, yes, he has been convicted.
B will it appeal, But I probably I know a little bit more than I can reveal on this program. But I'm looking at all sides of it. But there's plenty of people in state Parliament lack integrity. Let me tell you. Gareth ben Court has been punished fair enough.
But well there's no one that's been convicted of sexual assault of this, yes, that are in parliament.
Well, now there's going to be a by election now there, so that'll be interesting.
It'll be interesting to see who runs to see what that's right exactly. But because there's a big war at the moment with the Nats and the Libs, so that's going to be very interesting.
I think label will win.
Well, look stand by for that one and another by election.
Now, look I was flawed by this.
Labour's quietly lowered the minimum English test mark to be eligible for some visas for perspective migrants to prove their proficiency. This really annoys me, Tanya, because I think it adds to the out of control migration rate that we've already got. We've got so many people coming in under labor but do no drop the proficiency tests, not the welcome Matt's open even more.
I've got a bit of a different view on this actually, so I've got to say, Look, doesn't surprise me that Labour's watering down these tests. No, Okay, they want a big Australia. They've always been clear about that migration works. So them, that's how they win elections.
That's their strategy.
But as somebody who I'm the first generation of Australian my parents my father arrived in nineteen fifty nine, my mother in nineteen sixty and my grandparents soon after. They didn't know any English, but they did want to be part of Australian society. And what I think the real test is does individual want to assimilate into Australian society, or do they want to volunteer? Do they want to work? My parents as soon as they got off the boat, they went and.
Got a job and they loved and always to learn. I mean, you've got the internet, you've got phones that translate for you. There is absolutely no excus to lower that standard. That's what I'm angry about. I mean, years ago it was very difficult for people like your parents and grandparents to learn, incredibly difficult, and they work so hard.
Now is a different story. It's a lot easier. And no, if you can't speak, if you haven't learned to understand the language, I think you know you've got to raise those limits again for those tests.
I agree.
I don't think we should be dropping the limits, especially right now. We've got a housing crisis, We've got to cost of living crisis. We're bringing too many people into this country as it is. There's not enough caps on migration and this I think is going to make it worse now. I want to get your thoughts on this and New South Wales Energy Minister Penny Sharp has been
granted significant powers over future renewables projects. These powers allow the Minister to declare priority status on a larger list of new energy infrastructure. Of course, Tanya, the Nationals say that the blindsided by this that I feel for the regions.
Why does she need these.
Powers because she's a net zero zellot.
It's like, okay, she is made it very clear and she doesn't apologize to anyone. She is absolutely hell bent on making sure that New South Wales meets the net zero targets.
And they have got some very strict and strong net zero targets for bigger concern for me.
I've got to say throughout this week and being in the Parliament yesterday, I voted against this legislation and I saw the Nationals separating from the.
Liberals on the floor.
But where were they when the net zero legislation came in in October twenty three? All of them backed the net zero legislation.
Okay, they finally.
Dawned on them that it's not actually good for their communities in regional New South Wales.
So I'm glad the Nationals have finally woken up.
You've got Wendy Tuckama now is resigned from the Shadow Cabinet because her community has been impacted by wind farms and so forth. But the bigger issue for me is how James Griffin, who's the Shadow Minister for Energy, he's the protege Matt Kean's protege. Sitting there and not providing the details information about this legislation to the Shadow Cabinet
on Monday is appalling. He was brief the week before, he was given a copy of the bill, and yet he sat there silently, not saying a word, not prepared to inform his colleagues.
That's outrageous. If anyone should be resigning, it should be James.
And it is outrageous, and it's going to be consequences for his actional lack of it. And he is too close to Matt Keane. And I know the people in the Liberal Party are living. My phone's got a whole afternoon. They're absolutely ropable over this. So there's more to come on this. And now the FEDS are involved, the National Fed. So as I said, the by election in come is going to be very interesting because I think that that's going to get their own way on this. I can't
see a liberal one seed. There's a hot tip for you.
You don't think the Libs are going to.
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Have a good weekend, Thanks so much for joining me.
Coming up, will go to the US where it's D Day for Russia and it's war against Ukraine. Plus is America about to be burdened by what has been Kamala Harris considering another TiAl to the White House.
Bo Davidson his next.
Well, it is D Day for the Russia Ukraine war, the day Donald Trump set as a deadline for a ceasefire. The Kremlin has overnight confirmed US President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin have agreed to hold an in person meeting in the coming days.
And here was Trump speaking overnight.
It would like to meet with me, and I'll do whatever I can to stop the killing.
So last month they lost fourteen thousand people killed last month.
Now this comes hours after US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff met with Putin in Moscow, Trump describing it as a highly productive meeting where great progress was made. Joining me now for more on this is Sky News contributor Bo Davidson.
Both thank you for joining me.
Look, if Trump can pull this off, what will it mean? And did he get the Nobel Pace Prize? If he indeed is able to bring pace to this long running wall, well, Denika, I think it will mean that he will be the most consequential president of our lifetime.
I think this has been kind of ramping up now for a while that that would be said. Ronald Reagan famously said, mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall. And I think that what Donald Trump is saying is mister Putin, tear down this endless, senseless war. People are dying by the day, by the droves, and it's got to stop. That's what kind of moment this is. So yes, of course he deserves the Nobel Prize, but he's been ramping
up that for a while. He de escalated India, Pakistan, Thailand, Cambodia, Egypt, Ethiopia, Rwanda and the Congo and the big one Israel and Iran. So this could be his biggest one yet. It would be the first meeting between a US president and Vladimir Putin's I think about twenty twenty one. But let's also be sober about this. You know, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, there's still a lot of things that have
to happen before this meeting can take place. But the tariff's go into effect, as you said, and the heat is on Putin.
He can do this the.
Easy way, or he can do it the hard way, but he's got to make a decision for his people. And I just niqua find it ironic that Democrats would have made up this entire story to say that Russia helped Donald Trump become president so that what he could put pressure on their president to stop their war. I
don't think so. I think that Donald Trump has been made and prepared for a time such as this, and I can't see any of their leader at this particular point in time who's better suited to adjust this and to make peace happen in this region.
Yes, well, the Democrats are continuing there with their delusions, but you're right. I mean, if he can pull this off, this would be an incredible moment, not just for America, but also for the world as well, So stay tuned. We'll be watching very closely. Now Donald Trump's higher import taxes on dozens of countries have just come into effect. Some are even going as high as fifty percent bo obviously when countries around the world are scrambling now to
respond to this. Here in Australia, our base rate remains at ten percent. But what is actually the the impact locally in the US. Has its plan been a success or are they industry suffering?
Well, you mentioned, you know summer's highs fifty percent. I think India got twenty five percent and another twenty five percent for purchasing Russia oil, which is a topic we just mentioned. Tariffs have always been a negotiating tactic for Donald Trump. They're designed to generate investment, to boost growth, to boost jobs, to boost employment. I think that's what it's always designed to do. Now we have seen some countries retaliate that I don't I want to mention that
this has happened. Canada, for instance, has retaliated against the US, especially with regard to American bourbon, but that's pretty rare. Over the next several months, as industries react and respond to these tariffs, we could see higher prices. We just haven't seen a lot of that yet. The Trump plan overall, of course, is to rake in all this billions of billions of tariff revenue, which is to offset other taxes, like, for instance, an income tax, because tariffs are like taxes
to us. So if that plan is true and we can offset something like an income tax, that would be brilliant. And also we could possibly even give rebates to Americans. That's another idea that's been floated as well. I just think that we're a little too early in this process to be able to tell our government does subsidize farmers. That's one where we have offset tariffs in the past, But we just have to wait and see. I'm personally
going to remain optimistic about this, Danika. The main reason being is that when Trump initiates a tariff, usually a country freaks out and comes to the table with something better. So let's just take a pause on this because we haven't seen the economic downturn in spiral that I think a lot of people thought that there would be. Bill Maher has acknowledged that, and let's just see kind of what happens as industries respond to this. I'm going to remain optimistic about it.
Yeah, look, fair enough, let's say what happens.
But you're right, I mean, and a lot of countries have come to the negotiating table, not Australia.
Let it be known.
Now Prime Minister is still yet too have a meeting with Donald Trump.
We're all waiting for that one.
Now, look, bo, I've got to ask you, is America about to turn the page and be burdened again by what has been Because former Vice President Kamala Harris has announced she's not going to run for California governor in twenty twenty six, but it's not ruling out another bid for the White House in twenty twenty eight. Good grief. So look, we thought we'd take us through the archives.
Here we go.
The children of the community are the children.
Of the community.
You need to get to go and need to be able to get where you need to go to do the work and get home. I'm talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to see the moment in time in which we exist and are present.
But it's still says she is up my spine and saying that seriously. But you know, is America ready for possibly another round of word salads?
Uh Anika?
I like your razy salad, I like wedge, I like Bulldorf salad, But I cannot stomach another Kamala Harris word salad. It is just too much freaking burden for me to bear, for all this country to bear. You know, it's funny that she frames her work in terms like leadership in public service. She has never led nor sha has she ever served the public. If you don't believe me, ask any of her supporters name one accomplishment Kamala Harris has
and they can't do it. And I actually think there's a mistake Didnika for her not to run for California governor. You know why, because I think she would have actually won Californians. California Democrats are dumb enough to elect her again. She can't win an American election in terms of the country, the presidential election, but she could have actually won the governor's seat in California. But think about this, just bigger picture for a moment, you have two failed female Democratic
candidates for president, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. They're both females, right, America didn't not elect them because they were females. It's because they weren't the wrong females. They didn't have the right policies, they didn't have the right communication styles, they didn't have the right affability, and I personally that you could don't think Kamla Harris is the Democratic candidate in
twenty twenty eight. I think it's going to be someone like a Governor Josh Shapiro, or a GB Pritzker, or a Gavin Newsommer aggretchen Witmer. The problem overall is that Democrats have a brand problem. They don't have policies, they can't campaign on anything other than Donald Trumps sucks, and they're going to have to do better than that. So I think Kamlas sitting this one out is actually a
bad move because America won Elector. They're never going to elect her, but California actually would have.
Yeah, you know what, I think he raised a very good point, and I just hope.
For goodness sake that we are not burdened by what has been bo Davidson always lovely to see.
Thank you so much for joining me, appreciate it.
Good to see you again.
And back in a moment with the winners and losers of the week, including Life Imitating Us or Once TV Superheroes signs up to tackle America's migration crisis.
Pre mcswen will join me next.
Well, of course it's that time of the week where we sought the winners from the losers, and as always, pre McSween from Verb Communications now your winner this week Something fun is the scientist from Charles Sturt University who analyzed forty five videos of a cockatoos dancing, identifying thirty different movies. Would you believe have a look at this?
Well, they're clever, I'll give them that.
I think they've got more moves, and they're a bit more cocky than those stupid politicians.
We have more intelligence, I think.
Oh, definitely more intelligences between them.
I thought that was a good one. So different to end the week. That fine's a bit different too.
I wanted to end the week with the winner of Dean Caine. You might remember him started as the Man of Steel in the series Lewis and Clark, The Adventures of Superman back in the nineties.
Well guess what is now joining ICE.
In the US to support a legal immigration Have a look.
And for those who don't know, I am a sworn law enforcement officer as well as being a filmmaker. I felt it was important to join with our first responders to help secure the safety of all Americans, not just talk about it.
So I joined up Superman on the tally Superman in real life, like imitating.
Art, I wish we could get him down here to sort a few people out.
Of the great Robot down Dan, please come, But do you reckon?
It's great? It is.
I don't recognize him at all. I know it was the TV one.
Oh yeah, well I Clark Kent, I quite fancied in my day, But that one is the TV guy.
It's not the movie the og, not the og. But look good on him. Now, look, no surprises with this. Lawyers are tony believe it.
I mean, in one breath he's telling us he's goin a safeguard as keep us keep all the naughty people.
Out, and then he's letting this woman in.
And now, of course of visus can but only after the press got onto it.
Let's say exactly and for yeah.
Of course, and of course they were calling for him to resign because you know, what is the vetting process? Why are these people allowed to get in? This department clearly has an agenda. We had those three thousand people coming from Palestine who world they weren't vetted.
We don't know what.
Their security clearances are because they're now amongst us. So I just find it appalling that in once, you know, he talks double too idea talking about security, and none of us feel secure anymore. We saw across the bridge they're waving Hammers flags and has FLA flags. So clearly a lot of people who are supporters of these atrocious sort of terrorist groups in him now living here because we had such a slap dash sort of.
Well, look, I just think that Tony Burke was a disgrace today coming out late today backflipping. But he only did that because he was put under it.
Of course, that's ridiculous.
Now I had to give my loser to justinto Allen this week this work from home policy. Give me a break here she was trying to justify her decision.
Last week I shared our plan to enshrine working from home as a right. Now there's been a huge response, particularly online, so I thought i'd take a moment to respond to a few of your comments. Great news to read when you woke up on a weekend. Hurry up, please, Look, I know that there are many who are keen to see this right as soon as possible.
Yeah, well none of them would have been business owners.
To Sinty, you clearly have absolutely zero idea what it takes to run a business. Why would anyone want to go into business right now in this country.
In Victoria in particular.
I mean, speaking as a business owner, to have this government tell me how I can run my business, who I can employ and win It's just appalling and I just feel like, you know, this is again socialism overstepping the mark and it's going to impact on jobs.
Why would anyone.
Start a business these days?
They want to say I work from home. Ir Union's got their finger in every pie. Energy costs, the cost of doing business right now is too expensive. It's ridiculous. Prob We're got to leave it there. Good to see you another week down.
Thanks so much for joining me, appreciate it, Thank you for your company. I'll be back seven pm Sunday night. Steve Prices next, good Night,