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Coming up tonight, Anthony Alberesi's medicare stunt during the election backfires as it's getting even more expensive to see a specialist in this country. Also tonight, disaffected Liberals and Teals reportedly in talks to form a new center right movement, claiming the party is being taken over by Conservatives. I'll speak to MICHAYLEA Cash about it shortly, And Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner still can't define.
The first word in her title.
I'll play you Anna Cody's latest disastrous comments from Senate estimates. But first tonight, there's a case that has gone in front of a New South Wales court that I think has been a gross miscarriage of justice and racially motivated. It involves police officer Benedict Bryant. Now this is a case that makes you wonder why anyone would bother enrolling in the police force if they risk being charged just
for doing their job. Last week, the forty seven year old police sergeant was found guilty of dangerous driving occasioning the death of Aboriginal teenager Gai killaney Wright.
In February twenty twenty two. The sixteen year old was.
Riding a stolen trail bike in Sydney's Inner Suburbs when he hit an unmarked vehicle being driven by Officer Bryant. Now CCTV footage showed the team traveling around sixty eight kilometers an hour in a forty kilometer an hour zone in a bikelane. Sergeant Bryant created a roadblock with his car and at the same time Gi calaney Wright went through a red light before hitting a barrier at the end of the bike lane, causing him to become airborne
and he crashed into Bryant's parked vehicle. The teenager suffered critical head injuries and died in hospital the following day. Now the prosecution alleged Bryant had effectively establish.
A roadblock without reasonable grounds.
Judge Jane Culvers said given the sergeant's experience, he should have known that positioning his vehicle that way would lead.
To a real risk of a collision.
Despite the fact the teenager crashed into the parked vehicle, not the other way around. Benedict Bryant's lawyer, Paul McGirr explained the judge's decision this morning on two GB and have a think about whether this is fair.
What she found was that he should have foreseen that this young person riding over seventy kilometers in a bicycle lane on a stolen trial bike and he had a helmet on, but certainly should have known that he wouldn't stop, he wouldn't slow down at the markings, was on the wrong side of the actual bicycle laying markings came to
that raised part. Should have known that he wasn't going to stop, that that was going to ignore a traffic light, was going to ignor a left turn arrow that was in the bike lane, was going to ignore a ballard, a raised bollard up to about ten centimeters concrete and plastic, and was also going to ignore sorry gathering and also ignore a too high me to high red plastic bollards.
Now, obviously you can foresee things happening. For example, if you are driving and there is an intoxicated person staggering on a footpath with one foot on the road, then you're probably going to slow down your vehicle in anticipation
that that person may come onto the road. That to me is fair and reasonable to assume, but nobody's a mind reader, so it beggars belief in my view that a judge would think that a police officer would have had to have foreseen a myriad of possibilities in a split second, like ignoring bollards in order to have prevented death.
This really is truly staggering.
Judge Jane Colver said, the accused so seriously failed to properly they managed the vehicle that he created a real danger despite the fact he didn't hit the teenager. The teenager crashed into his patrol car, which was part and now the sergeant will learn his fate in April and faces up to ten years behind bars, his career over in a flash for doing his job, a twenty two year career down the drain. Why bother becoming a police officer?
What is the point if you cannot even fulfill your basic duties without the risk of being charged because the standard has been set now. In fact, criminal law researcher Talia Anthony even told the ABC quote, given that we now have this new standard possibility, maybe the prosecutors will be emboldened to bring higher offenses in charging police officers. In the future emboldened. And here is Benedict Bryant's lawyer on that these.
Are split second decisions. On that basis, that would mean no police officer would ever engage in anything to do with a criminal because they simply should know what they're going to do. That's the danger of the job they face. And a lot of police officers would be thinking to themselves it might be just easy to sit in the station and let this happen.
And look, we already have a youth crime crisis as it is, and this teenager was no saint. He had been breaking into homes and stealing cars and the trail bike. Now, of course his death is tragic, of course it is, but he was engaging in illegal activity at the time. And we have a courtroom criminalizing police for doing their job. And the question has to be asked, would the case
have gone to court had the teenager been white. The Department of Public Prosecutions had conducted an investigation into the incident and Benedict Bryant was initially cleared of any wrongdoing. It wasn't until last year when a new South Wales coroner, who had been investigating the teenager's death as a death in custody, referred the matter back to the DPP and charges were laid. And now this case has become a race issue because the teenager was Aboriginal, and we've seen
this play out before, albeit in different circumstances. It happened in the Northern Territory. Constable Zachary Rolf was charged with the murder of Aboriginal teenager Kumenjay Walker in twenty nineteen. Walker stabbed Rolf in the shoulder with scissors as he attempted to arrest him after Walker had earlier threatened local officers with an axe. Rolf than fatally shot Walker, and he was prosecuted. A jury has since cleared the now former officer of murder, agreeing that he was acting in
self defense. But it's the same wokism and race based politics that is playing out in our courts. Do white police officers ever really stand a chance when faced with Aboriginal criminal offenders who, in rare cases die as a result of police.
Being forced to do their job.
Did Benedict Bryant stand a chance the day he made that decision, based on his more than twenty year career, to form a roadblock, Well, if you ask Principal Legal Officer of the Aboriginal Legal Service, Nadine Miles. She says the guilty verdict confirms Bryant caused the death of the teenager. She told the SBS there is a particular lack of accountability for police who cause harm to Aboriginal people. The conviction of Benedict Bryant breaks with this trend and is
an important step in the right direction. It is critical that police are held accountable for their actions. The community should be able to trust that they will be safe when interacting with police. It is shameful that the actions of some police officers show this trust is not earned or warranted.
Police don't stand a chance. Well.
Anthony Albanezi peddled the biggest lie throughout the election campaign when he flapped about his Medicare card day in, day out and told you that his little green card is all you'll ever need to see the doctor for free.
This little green and gold card.
This scene here your Medicare card as this little green and gold piece of plastic.
This your Medicare card, A Medicare card.
Well, it was all a stunt, wasn't it. The majority of Australians believed it that seeing a GP was going to be free and easy under Labor, and believed a scare campaign that the Coalition would make cuts to Medicare. Yet how difficult is it to find a bulk billing practice in this country that does not charge you a gap fee. It's about as difficult as waiting for our power bills to come down under the renewables only fantasy.
Healthcare under Labor is not cheap, not freely available as you were promised it would be, and it's getting worse if you need to see a specialist, out of pocket costs for specialist doctors and our crippling consumer budgets. According to Medicare data, the average gap fee charge to patients has risen from forty nine dollars fifty six in twenty ten to eleven to one hundred and seventeen dollars eighteen in twenty twenty three to twenty four, more than triple
the rate of inflation now. The Health Minister Mark Butler has asked his department to provide wide ranging advice on reform options, and according to The Australian, that would include more transparency like forcing doctors to list what their fees are and cloring back Medicare subsidies that go to specialist doctors who charge what is deemed as excessive. Well, i'd ask what is labour trying to do here? I mean, are they actually seriously going to ask specialist doctors to
take a pay cut? Are they going to regulate doctors' billing practices? Really, there are suggestions that that in itself would be a constitutional matter. Someone has to pay in the end, and we can see where it's going. It's going to be the taxpayer who ends up being left to fill the gap.
It's going to be you.
Who ultimately foots the bill because how else is labor going to do this? Despite the fact Albo told you healthcare was going to be cheap with your little green card, and the Opposition is rightly asking questions today.
Well, I think one of the biggest lives of the last election campaign, Pete was that all you would need to access quality healthcare in this country was going to be your Medicare card. The Prime Minister had backdrops, had you know, jackets t shirts, pulling his card out at every available opportunity. And the reality is Australians are paying fifty bucks out of pocket on average to see their GP and one hundred and seventeen dollars on average to see specialists.
Now for many many.
Australians, particularly those with young families, where you might need additional visits or more than just one.
That is out of the reach of family budgets.
Yeah, and the Health Minister Mike Butler was out spitting tricky figures today.
There were eleven million free visits to the GP last month compared to seven million month before, so last month an additional four million free visits to the GP because of our investments making a huge difference to the access to healthcare and affordability.
The reality is bulk billing rates have only slightly shifted from a year ago. Health Department officials told Senate estimates yesterday the official bulk billing rate for GP visits rose from seventy seven point seven percent in October to eighty one point two percent last month, But between July and September last year, bulk billing rates sat at seventy seven point six percent, So really the needle has barely moved
in twelve months. Yet Labor announced it would spend eight point five billion dollars of your money to deliver eighteen million more GP visits a year, and don't forget its goals for the policy were merely based on an aim. The funding was to be spread over four years and only aimed to deliver bulk billing rates of ninety percent
by twenty thirty in two elections time. That little green card was nothing more than a labor con Well, Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner is still having a real doozy of a time defining the first word in her title.
Here. She was in.
October lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are a range of people who identify as women who are women.
Did you mean that biological males can be women men?
So?
I think that we have different language that perhaps you're using that I would use. So I don't understand the term biological men.
Yeah.
Anna Cody told the same committee the reason she couldn't distinguish between male and female was that she wasn't a scientist.
Can someone who was born an ex y chromosomes changed to xx chromosoans a male change to female?
I don't believe so, but I'm not a scientist.
Well, it's getting worse for and A Cody, a public bureaucrat, paid four hundred thousand dollars a year in Senate estimates this week.
This is how she defined her.
Role, Senator, my role is as the Sex Discrimination Commissioner to advocate for gender equality and also for the rights of LGBQTI plus community.
Well props to her for at least an open admission that she really has no clue as to what the role of a sex discrimination commissioner actually involves, because this is not a sex discrimination commissioner. This is clearly an advocate for the LGBTQI plus community on a tax payer wage. And a Cody even went as far as to blame conservative media recently like us here at Sky News, claiming she's been the victim of a one sided campaign for
her advocacy for the trans community. And look now that she's had two months to reflect on the term biological man does and a Cody know what a biological man is now? Senator Leah Blythe tried to get an answer.
Senator, I'm not a medical expert. I'm a human rights advocate. As I've just said, I advocate for gender equality and for the rights of LGBQTI plus people. That's my role under the Sex Discrimination Act.
So first, she tells us she can't define what a biological man is because she's not a scientist. And now she tells us she can't define what a biological man is because she's not a medical expert. Now I don't know about you, but I'm really struggling to get my head around this.
How does she not know what anyone is?
Then she claims to be an advocate for the rights of the LGBTIQ plus people. What is she to find a trans person as? Then how does she know what they really are if she's not a scientist or a medical professional. And I'd love to tell you it ended there, but it didn't.
Do you accept that there's a clear criteria that exists to distinguish between male and female.
The Sex Discrimination Act does not define man or woman. It has an inclusive definition of women that includes all women. So that is First Nations, women, women from culturally and racially marginalized backgrounds, trans women, lesbians, women with disability.
Inclusive definition of women. How many versions of women are there? Senatoralia blythe gave Anna Cody one more go?
So how would you define a man? It's not defined under the Sex Discrimination Act. And my role, as I've said, is to uphold gender equality under that Act.
And this nonsense went on for ten minutes. And look, I've shown this before, but I'm going to show it again. Perhaps Ana Cody could do with a basic biology lesson from the movie Kindergarten Cop.
Boys have a penish, Girls have a vagagina.
Thanks for the tip.
And you don't need a scientist or a medical expert to tell you that.
All right, let's get into the day's news. Now.
There's been another nail in the coffin for Labour's renewables only fantasy. It's been revealed its most recent advice on its twenty thirty five emissions targets was partly informed by a German study that has now been retracted. Environmental experts are warning its skewed data significantly overinflated the possible economic damage of climate change. Joining me nowut for more on this is Graham Lloyd, the Environment editor with the Australian.
Graham good to catch up. Thanks for joining me. Tell us what has actually been retracted from that study and what this now means for Labour's twenty thirty five targets.
Well, good evening. It was a major study from a recognized institute that was published in one of the leading scientific journals, and it claimed to have analyzed economies over a forty year period and extrapolated what the impact of rising carbon dioxide emissions would be, and it said by the end of the century there will be reduce by
sixty two percent, which is an extraordinary amount. They've had to go back and admit, well, really, rather than a forty year period, the figures were skewed by what happened in Ubekistan over a period of four years, and the correct figure would in fact be twenty percent, not sixty. But it really gets worse than that because the study itself is based on the worst case scenario on emissions, and there's a general agreement of understanding that that worst
case scenario is something that's not going to happen. So really you're taking the worst cast scenario, you're extrapolating it and using skewed to figures from a short period of time in Uzbakistan and saying this is the impact on the global economy. So that paper has been withdrawn. They say they will be resubmitting it, but in the meantime it's been used to justify actions across a whole range of places, including advice to the federal government.
I mean, it's just extraordinary as it is. Expert after expert will tell you that Labor can't reach its twenty thirty targets. Now we know that twenty thirty five was based on a report which has now been redacted. You know, I just think it's absolutely bizarre. Now let's go to Victoria. Agl has pulled the pin on its offshore wind ambitions over there, Graham, this is the problem because we know that two other wind farm projects have already been shelved,
so it's not going well. How big of a blow is this to Victoria's efforts, in particular to phase out coal in favor of renewables.
Well, it's a very significant problem, indeed, because Victoria has said a central part of its ability to meet its expectations as coal shots is offshore wind. And what we're seeing is one by one, offshore wind projects are falling over primarily because of cost and a lack of infrastructure and things that have been well known and understood by
anyone who's paying attention. So it's looking like if there is to be any offshore wind, it's going to be extremely expensive and heavily subsidized by government, and a lot of companies are saying, well, the risk is too great, these projects are not viable for them, so they're out.
Yeah.
Look, it's not good, and I mean it's not just happening in Victoria, it's happening across the country.
I've lost count of the amount of.
Projects that have either gone bust or have been delayed in recent months alone. That this renewables only magic carpet ryde just keeps failing at every turn. I want to go to this report by the Australian Energy Market Commission. It's warning that electricity prices are projected to jump thirteen percent by early next decade unless the rollout of Labour's net zero policies are accelerated. As I mentioned Graham, this whole rollout is being underpinned by eight twenty thirty by
that target. Yet we've got experts warning we're not going to get there. So what are the odds of the role at actually being able to be accelerated in the first place.
Well, I think this is the thing that the rollout has basically stalled in terms of large scale renewable energy projects. There's really been a log jam where they've been announced, but they're not getting financial sign off, and a large part of that is because the authorities have been unable to deliver the interconnectors and other infrastructure that will enable it to happen, and prices are going up every minute
people wait. So in terms of accelerating the role out, this is something that the federal government has been trying to do for some time and without success. So unless there is a resort to much more authoritarian measures, if you like, to railroad objections and to underwrite the finances of these things, it's very hard to see these targets being met. And if there isn't the role out, as the electricity authorities are now saying, well, prices are going up.
Yeah, well, I mean we see it with our power bills every time we open it, so don't we Grahm Lloyd, good to see you as always, Thanks very much for joining me. Well joining me now live is the Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister, Michaulia Cash, Senator. Nice to see you, thanks for joining me. Let's start with the ISIS Bride saga. Tony Burke is still silent on what occurred in that June meeting with charity Save the Children, which had been helping get the Isis brides back to Australia.
I know that you tried very hard.
In sett estimates months ago when it was revealed that the brides had already arrived here. You tried to get a straight answer from Labour to no avail. Now these revelations, what does a public deserve to know here about what occurred?
Well, Deanika, the obvious answer is the public deserve the truth from both the Prime Minister and Tiny Burr. I say that sarcastically, though, because you and I both know the Albanesi government has almost become incapable in most areas of policy in telling the truth.
But these are the facts.
Tony Burke had a secret meeting with Save the Children in relation to the return of the Isis brides and kicked out the note taker, and yet now refuses to tell the Australian people what actually happened in that meeting. I mean, you don't get to have it both ways, and you now have the Department saying well, actually Tony Burke said that he would find a way to bring those Isis bride home. I mean Tony Burke's explanation, Danika no longer passes the pub test. These were not backpacker's
stranded overseas. These were the wives of ISIS terrorists, men who had committed some of the most grotesque atrocities this world has ever seen. So Burke has a secret meeting, kicks out the note taker. You don't kick out the note taker, Daneka, unless you don't.
Want it on the books. Doesn't tell the Australian people what went on.
And you now have the notes I have them here from the Departmental Secretary that say this got to find a way. Politics harder at this end of term. Public pressure makes it harder. This the success of the first Cohort will be great after we've got them home. So for Tony Burke to sit back and not actually now tell Australians what actually occurred in this secret meeting, Why you're through the note taker out? What have you got to hide? It doesn't pass the pub test.
No it doesn't.
And the fact that the don't say that the talking about the success of the first Cohort. And you're right, these women left Australia. They betrayed our values when they left here to go on this g hardy Rome ants and we deserve to know what role labor played in this effort to get them back here. So no, I think you're spot on and just on that point, because these isis brides, they don't represent our values, which leads me on to the next topic of migration.
Now.
Susan Lee has promised that a plan will be announced before Christmas orbeit with no figure as such, to reduce overseas migration. Moderate Liberal Senator Andrew McLaughlin has condemned what he says is inflammatory and irresponsible language, particularly pertaining to the phrase mass migration. Now, Senator, you've been very strong on migration, and this whole issue is a term.
Mass migration inflammatory in your view.
I don't believe it is no In fact, you can call it what you like. These are the facts.
The Albanese labor government brought him one million people over a period of two years, in the middle of both a housing crisis and a cost of living crisis. This is not about atteching migrants. We are one of the most successful multicultural nations.
In the world world.
This is squarely about the failure of the Albanese government's migration policies.
They've turned on the migration tap.
They haven't put in place the appropriate infrastructure. Too many people in too short a times, Janeka, The Australian people do not need to be lectured about terminology. They live the reality of labours too many people in a short period of time. Every single day they look at their rent, they look.
At their mortgage, they look at the.
Fact that their kiss or even them cannot get into a house. We are a country that welcomes migrants. We do it with open arms. But at the same time we need to be adult enough to be able to have a sincere conversation about the fact that this government has brought in too many people too quickly and it is having a detrimental.
Impact on the Australian people.
I'm a pretty split plain speaker, Danika, and quite frankly, it's as simple as that.
Well, that's it, and you're right. The problem is not with migration. We are a nation of migrants. The problem is with mass migration. We have had too many people come into this country under labor and we continue to do so.
That is a problem.
There is nothing inflammatory or nothing wrong about it. I do hope we get to a point where we can have a proper debate about it.
Senator.
An interesting story in the AFR today that momentum is building among disaffected Liberals and Teals for a new center right movement. There are concerns by some who spoke to the paper anonymously that the Liberal Party is becoming irretrievable as a force thanks to a Conservative takeover. And the last straw was the net zero decision. What do you make of this?
Well, in the first instance, I had to laugh because I've never heard a teal be called to someone from the sin to rise, so I found that most amusing. But what I would say is this, at the end of the day, the Liberal Party in the National Party is the coalition are the only serious alternative to Labor.
We are not irretrievable.
What we do need to do, though, is put place policies give you Australian people what I like to call a potent political choice.
We have done that.
In relation to energy, we have dumped It's gone, I hope never to be seen again, the disastrous net zero policy. So the Australian people now have a choice. Labor who worship the net zero number. They couldn't give a toss sden acre about the impact on Mum and Dad, Australia or the coalition who will put Australians first. We will put your job first. We will put your energy security first.
But more than.
That, we will put the prop you pay on a daily basis first. That is a true political choice, as you've also alluded to. Though, we will shortly release our immigration principles and I assure you, decender of Jonathan Duniam who is doing an utterly outstanding job. This is going to again be a potent political difference and Australians will have a choice two big issues.
Energy.
Yeah, potent political difference. Immigration, potent political difference. That's what the Liberal in the National Party need to offer to the Australian people.
Yeah. Absolutely, our clear difference is needed.
Mcayley cash great to catch up as always, Thanks so much for joining me on the show.
Appreciate it. Coming up after the break.
One Nation claims it's on the brink of another two high profile appointments as well as Barnaby Joyce that a war with my panel next.
Welcome back. Well.
One Nation riding high in the polls right now and on the brink of recruiting. Barnaby Joyce is planning to make more high profile recruitments next year. According to reports in nine newspapers, Chief of Staff James Ashby is so confident with how things are going that he has revealed the party has plans to unveil a second high profile MP, not Joyce, who will join as soon as January, with a third high pro far recruit penciled in for March. Joining me now is forming new South Wales police minister
David Elliott and former Liberal senator Holly Hughes. Welcome to the both of you, Thanks so much for joining us. Holy any ideas, any names you want to throw up?
Who do you reckon? It might be over.
It's quite a tantalizing little you know, tippit that Ashby's putting out there. So no, I should have text him and see if you had given me a heads up. But na, I've got absolutely no idea. I mean, I'm sure the Liberal Party's got a few people they'll probably be happy to pack up and send. But whether or not that's where they are, who knows.
Oh, I just find it fascinating. I guess you know they're riding high in the polls. As I said, eighteen percent was their primary vote. David in the last News poll. That's pretty good eighteen percent. But do you think they can sustain that between now and an election.
Well, as they say in politics, the trend is your friend. Yeah, and we have seen this trend go on. We all know the reasons. I mean, it's been it's been a long time coming. Paul Enhanson has rebranded herself, she's rebranded the party, and we've seen right across the Western world in democracies right across the Western world that that sort of conservative populist mantra is in high demand and young young men and women are going to probably start looking at what the other options are.
Yeah, well, that's actually true because the polling that came out this week said that more young males are turning to one nation and we actually saw that in the US election, where the younger vote was turning to Donald Trump. So I just wonder there's obviously an appeal there for sure. And now look, let's turn to the federal and state governments. They'll soon spend more than fifty billion dollars a year servicing a record level of debt, according to the Independent
Parliamentary Budget Office. Net debt held by the state's territories and federal government will reach one point one trillion next financial year. Holly, before the pandemic, it was at five hundred and fifty one billion.
How did it now get to more than one trillion.
Well, this is a government that likes to spend, spend, spend, and now that we've got so many labor governments around the country as well, they're all investing in this sort of tax and spend mantra. They're more interested in redistribution rather than creation of wealth, and they seem to have zero regard for raining in the spending, boosting productivity and getting the budget under control. You know, they haven't seen a massive expenditure plan they don't love yet and it's
all Australians. They're going to be paying for this long into the future. But to have this level of dare I mean, it's almost budget repairs, almost getting to a point of beyond us. It's just insanity unless there's going to be some real, real cuts back on spending. And I just can't see the political will coming from anywhere to do that.
No.
Well, I mean Jim Chalmers has already said he's not worrying, is quite calm. He thinks, you know about spending as it is, David. But in the end it is going to be generations to come that are going to have to pay for all this record debts.
Well that's right, our generation generation next, we inherited the keeping debt. I mean, Jim Chalmers is treating us like mugs if he thinks there's nothing to be concerned. Public and private debt are okay if you've got an asset to realize. If you've got an asset there to think that, well, that's what the debt is about. That's what I've got
to for my money. But when you consider that twenty five years ago Peter Costello and John Howard had his debt free and now we've got a trillion dollars worth of liability, well then that is something that my grandkids should be worried about when eventually they come about.
Yeah, it is certainly a concern. I mean a trillion extraordinary. Now, look, I mentioned this at the start of the show. There's a case that has gone in front of a New South Wales court that I think has been a gross miscarriage of justice involving police officer Benedict Bryant, an Aboriginal teenager riding a stolen trail bike crashed into his patrol car, which was part and he subsequently died. The officer has been found guilty of dangerous driving occasioning the death and
faces up to ten years behind bars. David, I'll start with you on this as a former police minister yourself, what do you make of what's occurred.
Well, we talk about why people are going to one nation. This is why because they feel disenfranchised from the parliamentary and the political and n judicial process. I mean, where is the political air cover coming for these poor cops?
Where is it?
And the whole notion of a person running from police, being in police custody, or being in custody at all is laughable. No reasonable person could say that the laws of criminal justice, of custody or laws and the obligations of the law enforcement agencies would apply to a kid that's running away. It is tragic, it is absolutely tragic. But I'm disappointed that there's no political air cover coming for the police because this is just going to push even more people towards Pauline Hanson.
And also I just wonder whether people will I think twice before joining the.
Police they are anyway, the police Commission here in New South Wales has already said he's on a recruiting drive. But that's in every vocation at the moment.
Yeah, of course.
Look, I mean, obviously it's tragic what happened, Holly, but I mean, what are your thoughts on this case.
I don't think it's disgraceful. I think it's absolutely disgraceful judgment. I can't see how it will hold up on appeal. As David said, this kid was not in custody. To treat it as a death in custody is just ludicrous. And police is supposed to do their job. No one seems to be talking about the lives that were put at risk by the actions of this teenager and the behavior that he was embarking upon. Yet that all seems to be forgotten and forgiven, and the pile on for
the police. I think it's disgraceful. You haven't seen a police minister or the premier out advocating this. This is just appalling. And why would you join the police or encourage kids to join the police. This is how they trade it.
Yeah, I completely agree, and it's now a twenty two year outstanding Korea all down the drain for this officer and he faces ten years behind bars. I mean, gosh, what do you say now? This one here concerned me a bit. Retailers and unions want facial recognition technology adopted in a bid to crack down on violent repeat offenders. New Zealand has successfully trialed it in a number of retail settings, and actual retail crime incidents involving knives have
fallen twelve percent in ten months now. This technology captures data for a fraction of a second before deleting it if no match is made with a repeat offender. Now, I'm all for catching repeat offenders, David, but I'm not sure about facial recognition technology because it hasn't gone well in trials in the past.
Well, it hasn't. I'm cautiously optimistic. Like Ai, I think we've got to make sure that we always consider it. I mean, it's used to great effect in Las Vegas. The NPI capture a lot of people in Las Vegas when the casinos are using facial recognition technology. London is using it by the very extensive CCTV. So I'm cautiously optimistic. If it makes the life of the frontline work are a little bit safer and it reduces the length of time that police need to invest in investigating. Well, I'm
cautiously optimistic, but yeah, we need to make sure. Like anything in modern society, we've got to make sure there's plenty of safeguards.
Now, look, I agree, Holy how would you feel about retail about this sort of technology being used in retail settings?
Doesn't it feel a little Orwellian like this? You know, this whole big brother is all the time. I just I find it all a little bit uncomfortable. But I take David's point. Anything that makes people's lives a bit safer that are working on the front line is important. But we see breaches in these kinds of security systems and hackers and I just you know, the safeguards would need to be absolutely in place before I think most Australians would accept this.
Yeah, no, that's a fair call.
Before we let you both go, David, let's talk about your column this week in the day Telegraph. When I when I read the headline this morning, I think, WHOA where is he going with this? There's a first for everything. You listed a couple of your firsts in your life.
Yeah, wow, g rated of course, Well.
Though, it was all very clean because the family show and my mother and law watches it. When I was writing it, actually it was I realized that without with the exception of my first drink, everything else was traumatic. My first job was traumatic, my first even my first kiss was a little bit traumatic when you consider the.
Read the article.
If you want to know about david sur kiss by the way it's detailed.
Well you know I didn't initiate it as you'd appreciate.
Well, look, I mean, good on you for being so so reading Telegraph. You want to know about David's first All in there, David Elliott, Holly Hughes, We've got to go. Thanks so much for joining me.
On the show.
Coming up, Half the Break, a shopping week for the Sussexes, Prince Harry Boom while mocking Donald Trump. As Meghan's Christmas special flops on Netflix, Samara gil joins me live from London next.
Welcome Back, Well. Nigel Faraj has slammed the.
BBC after refusing to take a question from one of its reporters at a Reform UK conference. It comes after he was accused of racism by the Guardian dating back to when he was thirteen years old would you believe have a listen.
The schoolmates of yours who have said that comments you made they viewed as racist and offensive.
The double standards and hypocrisy of the BBC are absolutely astonishing. At the time I was alleged to have made these remarks, one of your most popular weekly shows was the Black and White Minstrels. The BBC were very happy to use blackface. I'm done with you, thank you, he said.
They were lying and it sounds like that from Scott.
I'm really until you apologize for all of your output, your appalling output at the same time that I'm accused of saying these things, which I deny. I'm not speaking to you all right.
Joining me now is Samara Gill, host of Triggered with Samara Gill. Nice to catch up as always. How long is the left wing media going to pedal.
These racism claims for for goodness sake?
Exactly, Dniger. Honestly, you can hardly blame Nigel Farrage. The BBC has spent years sneering at him, caricaturing him, deplatforming anyone who dares to share a stage with him, and they expect some sort of polite fireside chat from him. After all, this no no, no Farage simply served them this sort of long overdue.
Helping of accountability.
And it sort of reminds me of what Trump did when they were found to have doctored videos of him to make him look like he incited violence.
So I say good Enfarage for pointing.
Out the hypocrisy, because they've been waving their sanctimonious finger at him for years and now they've tried to pin him for allegations from when he was a thirteen year old schoolboy. And this is at the time when the BBC was pumping out blackface, racist tropes, phobic punchlines, all in their primetime slots. So if anyone needs to apologize, it isn't Farrage, it's the BBC, which is a total mess at the moment.
Yep, no, you're you're right.
The BBC is in a mess, and yet the Left love to peddle this racism narrative and it's just tiresome and quite frankly boring. Look, let's talk about the sussexes. They've had a shocking week. We'll start with Prince Harry. He tried to be an amateur comedian on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert where he mocked Donald Trump and it failed.
He was booed, have a look su the obsessive royalty, So why.
Not hold on, hold on, look, Look, I wouldn't say we're obsessed with royalty.
Really, I heard you, I heard you elected a king. That's a fair party.
Look, Samara, Harry needs to be saved from himself at this point.
It is so depressing.
Harry actually came from being a guest speaker at a real estate conference in Canada to that CBS appearance. Please don't ask me what he knows about Philip State.
I mean he's literally a trust fun kid. I don't think he's owned anything work for in his life.
But yeah, to get boot on Stephen Colbert's show as he goes and sort of sticks his grubby little fingers into American politics.
Something he knows nothing about.
By the way, is sort of this humiliation ritual of the highest order. I mean, this man is self exiled, self pitying, and he's increasingly allergic to dignity.
It seriously takes.
Real talent to make an American studio audience, which usually very nice to the royals, boo you, but you know he's a once in a generation overachiever in the art of an alienation. Danika genuinely and cannot get lower.
No, well, I mean just when you think that he can get lower, when the Sussexes can, they just somehow shock us. They tag it to one other level and look in a shock to no one. Speaking of shocks, Meghan Markel's Netflix Christmas special has been a flop of epic proportions. Who would have thought It's been met with skathing reviews and when you see clips like this, Samara, you're not surprised.
Have a look, so Christmas crackers?
Have you been doing them for a long time?
Well, living in the UK, it is just such a part of Is it a.
Big part of the culture over there.
For Christmas holidays?
For sure?
Oh that's cool.
Oh, typically people cross arms into it.
No way, you're doing it with the other person, Yes, and they all pulled at the same time, so the goss it actually does feel really connected a moment of community. Yeah.
The way that I really served to know them was they would always have almost a fortune cookie size joke or.
Riddle a Sahara, She's making it out like this is some sort of incredible revelation that people cross arms and crack Christmas crackers.
What is she thinking, seriously?
I mean her word salad is worse than Kamala hours they have. Everything she says just doesn't make sense. And that guest Willgadera, the one that was just on screen now summed it up the best. He said, here's where people get it wrong. I think people are trying so hard to impress the people they've invited over that they forget the reason the people are actually there, which was sort of a direct assault on Meghan's try hard behavior.
But you're right.
It's had terrible reviews, one star from the Telegraph. They've said Meghan's Christmas special is quite mad, a little bit sad, and the Times has said that is the Sussex Christmas Crackers. I mean, it's such a strange sort of turn of events where she's deciding to share just a tiny bit of her life in England and putting an essential oil for her three year old into a Christmas cracker and missing the whole point of a Christmas cracker, which is
you don't know who's gonna win the Christmas Cracker. I mean, it just shows you how misguided she is with sort of both Australian.
United KINGDM culture.
She clearly had no idea what she was going into and it's all just some sort of consumerism best for her.
No, And I wonder what they like when they say roll the cameras, act natural, and that's her trying to act natural. So no, wonder it's been an absolute flop. Samara Gil great to have you on as always. Thanks very much for Jonah on the show. Back at a moment with the winners and losers of the week, including Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson's surprise appearance at an Aussie puff and how desperate the housing debate has become.
That's next.
It is that time of the week where we sought the winners from the losers, and helping me to do that is Sky News contributor Louise Roberts. Louise, good to see if they see joining me now. Your winner this week is a young couple who got into the property market without help.
That's right and they should be celebrated for this. But this story's absolutely gone off. So there are a young couple two women who bought a half million dollar apartment in Mount Druett, on their own. They haven't had help from the bank of mum and dad. They haven't really leaviash anything apart from good old fashion hard work and say one of them has been working since she was twelve years old, the other one since she was eighteen.
But the story has gone gang buses because people are accusing them of being spoiled brats, NEPO babies, having rich parents who sort of secretly helped them out, and none of this is true. Now, I do understand this is probably a reflection of the broader resentment about getting onto the property ladder. But these people have bought their first home completely of their own volition and just through hard work.
So I think we should be celebrating that because so often young people are castigated because they can't budget and they don't want to put the work in to actually say for a deposit. But this couple, I think my hat's off to them. They're definitely my went of the way.
They would just be happy for other successes. Absolutely, it's a huge achievement.
So bad it is very difficult to get into the housing market as a first home buyer.
Just be happy for others.
They're not sort of you know, on government handouts. They've done it furely from hard work. And one of them, Jamie Jackson, said, you know, we're going to enjoy our home. I don't care if people exactly.
That's why wouldn't you celebrated? So, you know, great role model.
Put on them great role models, and I congratulate them. Now, I thought this was really cool. I had to give my winner this week to Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson. They rocked up to an Ossie pub actually it's called Old Mates in New York, and they started singing Sweet Caroline and the lighting pub goals.
Have a look. I mean, wouldn't you just love to be in that crowd? Now?
They the co stars played members of a Neil Diamond tribute band. It's part of their new movie song Song Blue. I think I read somewhere it's based on a true story. But anyway, that pub is co owned by Ossie comedians Hamish Blake and Andy Lee. But I just thought right, and you know, he's not a pub classic two, it's a classic classic.
Good for Ossie's abroad to be supporting each other in that way. And actually I went to the Oprah Show last night. She referenced these two doing the Sweet Caroline who actually we ended last night singing Sweet Caroline this all the tour people. Oh, it's definitely a meme at the moment. But yeah, Hugh Jackman, what a great ambassador, isn't he?
Oh, isn't he the best? Amazing? And I actually really like Kate Hudson.
I'm always thought that she was a great actress as well, just like her mother, exactly, just like Goldie. Now your loser while we were just talking about the Duchess of Sussex having a terrible week, isn't she? And now she's decided she's going to launch an eighteen dollar chocolate range at the same time as her father is fighting for his life.
Yes, you just couldn't make that story, I really could she. I mean they have been estranged since twenty eighteen before Harry and Meghan got married. He did, I think, make some silly decisions around posing for pictures, getting measured up for his wedding suit, and releasing private correspondence leisurely off hers. But Meghan to actually release these eighteen dollars chocolate bars, knowing full well that her father, who's now in the Philippines,
is very ill in hospital. He's been in ICU, he has he's had surgery. There's another blood clock situation, I believe, and his son Thomas Markle Junior, who is her half brother, has said that all we want is for Meghan to show her father some compassion.
So it does beg the question.
Yes, you know there's some bad blood and some bad issues between them, but if your father is on life support and hospital, you're not ignoring it and you're not got full steam ahead trying to flogs in chocolate.
Take your time, Pick your time.
Plus that dreadful Christmas special that she's released this week, so always bad timing for Megan. Now my loser this week, I've got to give it to parents who won't be allowed to parent under the social media ban for under sixteens. It was revealed in Setate estimates this week that they could find their own social media accounts restricted or blocked if they allowed their own children to use them.
Have a look at this.
We would expect that Google would assess that.
So they block my account.
So if I was allowing my child as a parent to use my account to look at content, they block my account.
They may you're going to restrict the right parents the user of the account.
How about let parents parent Louise.
Well, apparently that's not allowed, is it. Although I think overall the band is a good idea, you have to allow some discretion. If parents want them kids look at their phones. You cannot block the phone of the parent. That's just just dictatorial.
Exactly what are we? China?
Russia? Come on at Lawy's Roberts. Good to see you us. Always have a nice weekend. Thank you so much.
We'll see you soon. That's it from me.
Are we back on Sunday night at seven for Deneka and James stay with us.
Up next is Steve Price. Good night,