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The Islamic Regime has been decapitated as Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been killed in a US-Israeli air strike. Plus, Penny Wong calls for, you guessed it, dialogue and diplomacy.

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Speaker 1

Why On Sky News Australia.

Speaker 2

This is Denika di Georgio.

Speaker 3

Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight. The Islamic regime has fallen. Ran Supreme leader Iotola ali Hamoni killed in a US Israeli air strike. Shadow Attorney General Michaulia Cash will join me shortly.

Speaker 4

What does this mean? Will at work?

Speaker 3

And who takes over? Michael Schubridge is coming up with full analysis plus Australia's reaction. Penny Wong calls for you guessed it? Dialogue and diplomacy. She never learns. But first tonight in Sydney last year, Labor Front bencher Ed Husick, former Labor Foreign Minister bobkar and Lord Mayor of Sydney, Clover Moore were pictured next to a photo of the Iatola as it was carried across the Harbor Bridge.

Speaker 4

Just remember that.

Speaker 3

And now Labour's proven once again that it's on the wrong side of humanity and the wrong side of history. Overnight, that same dictator that they were pictured with, the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Hemani, was killed in US Israeli air strikes. Now this is a man responsible for the mass murder of his own citizens.

Speaker 4

Was a sponsor of terror.

Speaker 3

His regime supported huties, Hesbalah and militias in Iraq and Syria. The regime was responsible for two anti Semitic attacks in Australia, including the firebombing of a Melbourne synagogue. And this brutal dictator has been taken out. Here was that moment confirmed by Iranian state media.

Speaker 1

Mar Do Micheif to the noble and proud people of Iran, with ultimate grief and sorrow, this is soon in form you that, following the barbaric attack by the criminal governments of America and the evil Zionist regime, the true example of faith, jihad and resistance, Supreme Leader of the Revolutionary God at al Amini achieved the blessing of martyrdom.

Speaker 3

Ding Dong, the tyrant is gone. Here is the Ayatola's residence in Tehran up in smokes. His body was found surrounded by rubble and riddled with shrapnel wounds. The mullas so this is his successes, and members of his own family have also been killed as air strikes rang out. Donald Trump delivered one of the most important speeches in presidential history.

Speaker 5

Finally to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered, don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished take over your government, it will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations. For many years you have asked for America's help, but you never got it. No president was willing to do what I am willing to do tonight.

Speaker 4

Now you have a.

Speaker 5

President who is giving you what you want. So let's see how you respond. America is back in you with overwhelming strength and devastating force. Now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach.

Speaker 3

This is a hugely significant moment in modern world history. Iran has waited forty seven years for this. No leader has had the courage of Donald Trump, no leader to take on a brutal dictatorship head on and cut off the head of the snake, other than Benjamin Etna, who who has fought terror while being abandoned by so called allies in the West, including Australia.

Speaker 6

We hit out as the tyrant Hameni. For three decades, he has been sending terror with proxies and has made his people miserable and continue talking about the extermination.

Speaker 4

Of the state of Israel.

Speaker 6

This plan and pro no longer exists, This tyrant no longer exists, and he.

Speaker 3

And Donald Trump have done it, the President said in a statement, Hamni, one of the most evil people in history, is dead. He was unable to avoid our intelligence and highly sophisticated tracking systems and working closely with Israel. There was not a thing he or the other leaders that have been killed along with him could do. This is the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take their country back, and that news was met with celebrations

across Iran. The Iyatola's statue has been torn down and Iranian women are removing their hidgeobs and are dancing in the middle of Tehran.

Speaker 4

What a moment.

Speaker 3

But back home, as I said, labor was back on the wrong side of history. All that Foreign Minister Pennywong could muster up today was a call for de escalation.

Speaker 2

Do not want to see this escalate into a wider regional conflict. We continue to urge the protection of civilian life and as others have. We seek the resumption of dialogue and diplomacy. I would say to Australians, this is a difficult period. The days ahead will be difficult, and we will do our best to give you the information we are able to get to you.

Speaker 3

De escalation, dialogue and diplomacy. Really, what planet does she live on? I mean, there are Iranians celebrating this historic moment in the streets. They wanted this, They are praying that this means a genuine liberation after being under a murderous regime since the Islamic Revolution in nineteen seventy nine, a regime that has murdered tens of thousands of people.

Speaker 4

Adopted a shoot.

Speaker 3

To kill policy on protesters in recent weeks, literally shooting them dead in the streets. Iran has not given up its nuclear weapons program. It continues to persist with it, which of course poses a threat to the world. And just like she did after Hamas murdered twelve hundred Jews on October seven, the Foreign Minister's first instinct is dialogue and diplomacy. I mean, the same bizarre instinct that she had after the US took out an Iran nuclear facility in June last.

Speaker 2

Year, I directly put to the Iranian foreign minister. We are saying to you exercise restraint, returned to diplomacy and dialogue, because continuing to escalate this has consequences for all peoples of the region. And I think that is a position that so many countries in the world are putting to not only the Iranians, but also to the Israelis.

Speaker 3

And remember, Labour chose not to stand with the US for the first twenty four hours after that strike on Iran last year. Australia did not support its number one ally who tried to destroy terror in Iran, and Australia went against the US in recognizing a Palestinian state. I mean Labour lives in a delusional la la land where they think that negotiations and discussions with terrans and terrorists who have proved time and time again that they cannot

be trusted is somehow key to solving problems. Or thank goodness, the US ignored Penny Wong, and thank goodness, Benjamin Netanyahu ignored Penny Wong. The Prime Minister talked tough today, putting him at odds with his own foreign minister.

Speaker 7

Australia stands with the brave people of Iran in their struggle against what is an oppressive regime. Ayatollah Khameni was responsible for the regimes ballistic missile and nuclear program, support for armed proxies, and its brutal as of violence and intimidation against its own people. This claimed countless lives in Iran, but also internationally. He is responsible for orchestrating attacks on Australian soil. His passing will not be mourned.

Speaker 3

Look, this is all well and good now, but the Prime Minister only talks tough after someone else has done the hard work for him. I mean, you can't condemn the Iranian regime and support Palestine at the same time, especially after the last two and a half years where he's betrayed our values for votes, presided over the decay of social cohesion in Australia led by rampant anti Semitism and hate at the hands of radical Islamis.

Speaker 4

While he and Penny told.

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Us that we're a tolerant nation, well where has that tolerance got us?

Speaker 4

Nowhere? I mean, the US and Israel were brave.

Speaker 3

Enough to take tolerance into their own hands overnight, and Albo saying he loves to stand with things. I mean, he loves that phrase, but he actually never follows through.

Speaker 4

He said he stood with.

Speaker 3

Australian Jews as they lived in fear and continue to do so.

Speaker 4

He said he stood with us as we watched.

Speaker 3

In horror while our national monuments were hijacked by those who hate us. He said he stood with Australia during the Bondi terror attack, but could not even mutter the words radical Islam until about a month later. He certainly stands around a lot, doesn't he, And yet he had nothing to say when one of his own MPs was pictured on the Harbor Bridge next to a portrait of a now dead terrorist.

Speaker 4

Who can believe a word this.

Speaker 3

Prime Minister says now today marks a pivotal moment in the deaths of Islamic terrorists. Hamini and his mulas, hesbla's longtime leader and one of its founders, Hassan Nasrala Hamas leader, Yaya Sinhwar.

Speaker 4

And countless other top military and command.

Speaker 3

Leaders of terror, all killed by the US and or Israel. And it all started since October seven, twenty twenty three, when Israel fought for its right to survive and against terror, and then once Donald Trump was reelected, acting on his mandate to stop wars. Long may strong leaders like Trump and net Yahoo ignore the ridiculous statements and naivete from Penniwong and Labor.

Speaker 4

This is what Iran looked like before the revolution. And look, there's a long way to go.

Speaker 3

And I'll get to into what this means and what happens now with my guests throughout the show. But Donald Trump has taken a huge political gamble in trying to restore Ran to its format glory. Now, if it doesn't work, especially in a media term, it could be disastrous for his foreign policy credentials and also among his magabase, many of whom do not want a war. But if it goes to plan, then there is no doubt that this is one of the greatest foreign policy accomplishments in modern history.

Let's bring in the shadow Attorney General Michaliat Cash. Now, Senator, really good to catch up with you on this very important day. Firstly, your reaction to this historic moment.

Speaker 8

Well, Deanika, the man who bankrolled terror and slaughtered his own people is finally gone. This is an historic turning, not just for the people of Iran, but for the people of the world. He was, without a doubt, one of the most evil people.

Speaker 9

In living history.

Speaker 8

And I have to say this now presents a real opportunity for Iranians to embrace freedom and a new way of governing themselves. I do acknowledge though, what Angus Taylor so articulately said in relation to this once in a lifetime opportunity. It only came about because of the moral clarity and the decisiveness of both the United States and Israel, clear allies of Australia, but also their combined military strength and the bravery of their defense forces. And certainly the

question going forward now is where to from here? Because President Trump has given the IRGC a very clear choice. If you escalate as they are currently doing, you will face overwhelming consequences. Or and the or I thought was very fair, lay down your arms, step back, and let the Uranium people finally determine their own future.

Speaker 9

But again, an historic day.

Speaker 8

The man who bankrolled terror even here in Australia overseas and slaughtered his own people is gone. What a great opportunity, Danika, for the Iranian people to finally pursue freedom.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, I mean, they've been under such oppression since nineteen seventy nine, and we saw the vision of them dancing in the streets. I mean, this is exactly what they wanted. But you raise a good point what happens now and this really is key because I think many would be praying that this does mean genuine liberation, but we still don't know.

Speaker 4

Could Australia be dragged into any conflict?

Speaker 3

Do you think in the event that an air root which is the US and Israel have.

Speaker 4

Gone down, is not enough.

Speaker 3

I mean, should the US than op for troops on the ground.

Speaker 4

Could we be dragged in? Well?

Speaker 8

I think Donald Trump at this point in time has made it clear. In the first instance, this is a military air strike and naval strike.

Speaker 4

That is it.

Speaker 8

There is no suggestion at this point in time that there will be troops on the ground. And I think that Andrew Hasty summed it up this morning in terms of what is Australia's responsibility at this point in time, It is to ensure the safety of Australians and our

defense force personnel overseas. But of course we have a strategic role separate to a boots on the ground role, and that is to continue to ensure that we are providing whatever intelligence we can to our allies to strengthen sanctions if we need to, and to do everything that we can to identify and stop any form of foreign

interference here on Australian soil. But in particular after talking to members of the Iranian community here in Australia, Danika, we can't begin to understand, can we how they feel today? We must ensure that they know that they are at all times protected.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, just even the celebrations across the country, it's just been it has been wonderful to see. I want to ask you about Labour's response to this. Penny Wong called for talks between the US and Iran. Instead, she's calling for de escalation, diplomacy and dialogue. These are similar statements that she made after October seven. I've got to ask, because what is there to talk about here? How could Iran have ever been trusted in the first place?

And as you and I have been discussing, this is actually what the majority of Iranians wanted.

Speaker 8

Well, it's a very good question. What is there to talk about? And the issue is not talks, Sanika. Talks have been going on with Iran for decades. It's not a lack of talk. It's not a lack of dialogue. The issue has always been the failure to actually undertake behavioral change by Iran.

Speaker 9

Talks last week.

Speaker 8

The President of the United States, there were talks last week. The issue we have had is, over these decades and decades of talks, what does Iran continue to do. It has continued to export terror overseas. It has continued to pursue uranium enrichment, but worse than that, and most recently, it has continued to slaughter its own people for wanting the one thing that we have each and every day, and that is of course freedom.

Speaker 9

So let's put aside the talks.

Speaker 8

Any talks going forward need to be firmly focused on the future of the new Iran, the future of a new government, but more than.

Speaker 9

That, what a free Iran will look like.

Speaker 8

And as Angus Taylor today said, what welcoming a free Iran to our world actually means?

Speaker 4

Yeah, look absolutely.

Speaker 3

In the last few hours, Iran has said that it would retaliate, and we know that overnight it has been attacking golf STF even a missile hit Dubai International Airport.

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Have a look at this.

Speaker 3

The iconic Burj Arab was also look just on that though, I mean Iran is threatening more retaliatory strikes. What is your advice now to Australians in the region.

Speaker 8

Well, I think, like so many in Australia, we have been contacted today, in particular by Australians who are currently in Dubai. Very clear advice to them. Please follow defat advice to the absolute letter.

Speaker 9

Please ensure that you.

Speaker 8

Are registered with Smart Traveler and stay close to what the Australian authorities are saying you need to do. But I also have a very clear message to Pennywong in the government. You need to ensure that the consular services

are surged and are prepared. This is not something that was expected, but it is something that now we need to ensure there is capacity on the ground because I am myself getting over well with people texting me from Dubai saying what do we do in relation to the IIGC and Iran's retaliation.

Speaker 9

Not unexpected in fact, it's pattern of behavior. This is what they do.

Speaker 8

But I think again President Trump, in his speech yesterday and again in comments today, has been very very clear. He has laid down a clear choice to the IRGC. You either escalate and you will face consequences that are overwhelming, or and the ore is what we all hope they choose, take a step back, lay down your arms, and for once, let the Iranian people finally determine and choose their own free future.

Speaker 3

Absolutely in the US has already warned that if Iran does take any retaliatory action that there will certainly.

Speaker 4

Be hell to pay.

Speaker 3

I just want to ask you about that pathway now to democracy. There has been some suggestions that maybe Iran goes down the shah roots like it used to to have a Shah as the head.

Speaker 4

But I mean, this is still really risky times, isn't it.

Speaker 3

Because I don't think that liberation is a sure thing. I mean, is it too premature to even suggest that at this point?

Speaker 8

And I think it was fascinating today to sort of listen to commentators all day talking about what happens next. Nobody quite yet knows what is going to happen next. What we do want to see, though, is Iran moved to being a free country like it used to be. And you showed those pictures of Iran before the revolution.

That is what we want to see but over the next you know, hours and days, the IRGC have a clear decision to make, and President Trump and Israel have made it incredibly clear if you do not lay day on your arms and take a step back, you will be faced with overwhelming consequences. There is a clear choice to be made at this point in time. Do they take that choice and lay down their arms and take a step back? At this point in time it doesn't appear to be the path they're going down, but certainly

where we all want to hit. And we've always said this is a coalition we should never impose onto Iran a future government. It is now for the Iranian people, once they are free from the terror and the tyranny of the IRGC, to move towards a free country and a free government butt of their own choosing.

Speaker 3

And look, fingers crossed, it gets there, MICHAELA Cash, We've got to leave it there. I appreciate your time on what is such a historic day for not only Iran but for the world. Thanks very much for joining me. Well, let's get more analysis now. Strategic Analysis Australia director Michael Shubridge joins me. Michael, good to see you.

Speaker 4

Is this really the end of the regime.

Speaker 3

As I've just been discussing, there is complete liberation premature.

Speaker 4

How much risk is involved.

Speaker 10

Welld de Niker, I think you're right. It is very early in this military conflict. So we're only just over twenty four hours from when the first Israeli a New West strikes started, so it's got a long way to play out. President Trump said he expects the strikes to go on for at least a week. They could go

on for much longer. There's two big things here. Really, it's a high stakes gamble to try and change the regime in this way because there hasn't been regime change by air strikes in world history, so it's trying to

get regime changed by remote control. And second, the air strikes can kill Iranian leadership like the Ayatola, but it's not going to disarm the eight hundred thousand people in the army, the Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the police, and they're the people with the guns, not the protesters.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and just on that, so we've got the iatoll Is dead, along possibly.

Speaker 4

With his whole leadership group.

Speaker 3

That these are the Mullers, so these are his successes. They've reportedly been also been taken out. But what you're saying there is there's still so many people, so many players behind the scenes. So I mean, I think this is just so significant, but it just seems like it's a very small step forward.

Speaker 10

Well exactly, And so President Trump said his goals are remove Around's nuclear program, destroy Iran's missile capability, both the missiles it has and its ability to produce them. Think that means drones as well, destroy the navy so it can't stop the oil shipments, and then give the Iranian

people the opportunity to overthrow their regime. But these security services have been pretty fervent parts of the regime, and it's not at all clear they're just going to lay down their weapons and wait for retribution from their population.

Speaker 3

And you mentioned as well, I mean, this has all been done by air. Can you really bring about regime change without soldiers on the ground. Can it be really pulled off without troops?

Speaker 10

Well, I suppose we know from other attempts like Iraq and Afghanistan that even having ground troops doesn't mean it's easy or successful. But doing it without ground troops is a really big gamble. And as I say, you're not going to disarm eight hundred thousand military revolutionary guard called police, and then the religious militia that the regime has by

air strike. So you can destroy the big government facilities, some of the missile stockpiles and production centers, but not people with lots of automatic weapons.

Speaker 3

Who takes over the reins now, I mean there had been some suggestions of a return back to a shah a Riza Pallavi, who is the exiled crown Prince of Iran. He's spent about fifty years living abroad. Now he has already overnighed outlined his plan for what he says would be an orderly and transparent transition to a democratic Iran.

Speaker 4

Can you get back to a democracy? And how long would that realistically take?

Speaker 10

Well, there are so many people, I mean, certainly there are a large number of Iranians. Remember it's a ninety million population. It's a huge country. There are plenty of people that really disliked their government. They're willing to go on the street and protest a great personal risk to themselves just in January. But there are also a bunch of rusted on adherents of this regime and see it

as a revolutionary and religious regime that they support. So civil war is a potential here, but really the people with the guns are still the regime. They have the upper hand when the bombs stop.

Speaker 3

I want to actually talk to you about the strike itself. Me was that this was a daylight attack.

Speaker 4

Is that unusual?

Speaker 3

What would have prompted the US and Israel to go for it in the middle of the day.

Speaker 4

What sort of intel could have prompted that?

Speaker 10

I think the key thing was the meeting happening in Camani's compound, in the leadership compound in the middle of Tehran. So the Israelis and the Americans obviously had enough very sensitive, real time intelligence to say this, the whole bunch of senior leaders a meeting in this single place, and if we strike now, we can decapitate the regime. And that's what they did. I think that was the key piece of intel.

Speaker 3

And what about the technology used to pull off something? Because Donald Trump in his statement said that highly sophisticated tracking systems were used.

Speaker 4

Take us through what that would entail.

Speaker 10

Well, if we remember back to June last year, the Israelis seemed to have a whole lot of insights into the Iranian government's operations. Some of that would have been electronic and he signals intelligence, interception, cyber kind of operations, but some of it is old fashioned humans on the ground working for the Israelis and or the Americans. And obviously there's a lot of satellite overhead intelligence that you can look at to see who's going where.

Speaker 3

And just before we let you go, how much credit do you give the leadership of both Donald Trump and Benjamin Netnahu to go in there and effectively cut the head off the snake.

Speaker 10

Well, I don't think it would have happened under different leaders in either of the countries. I think Netnyahu has had enormous influence because he has great concern about the Iranian missile and nuclear program. He thinks the Rahan's weak and this is the moment to strike. And Donald Trump obviously made that key decision not just to mass the US forces, but now to use them. So it's a unique combination of the two.

Speaker 3

Well, look, it's been a massive day, and then you're right, I don't think that any other leader around the world would have had the courage and the guts to go for it. Michael Schubridge, great to have you on this evening. Thanks very much for joining me. We're coming up after the break the Greens fall for the regimes propaganda as the ABC's bias.

Speaker 4

Is on full display again.

Speaker 3

I'll show you how the public broadcaster has covered the historic events in the Middle East.

Speaker 4

Next welcome back.

Speaker 3

Joining me now is former New South Wales Police Minister David Elliott and verb Communications per McSween height of both of you on what is a very historic day.

Speaker 4

Thank you so much for joining me. Let's start with reaction, David, huge news. What do you make of it?

Speaker 11

Well, I think I think I was very disappointed in the Prime Minister's response when you compare it with Penny Wong's response. I mean the Prime Minister has called this a tyrannical regime and then Pennywong saying we need.

Speaker 4

To de escalate.

Speaker 11

Well, if it's tyrannical, if this was tyranny, we don't walk away from fixing the problem. So I think I think Australia's position has to be right up there, backing number one year leader of George of the American presidency and of course the the Israeli presidency, the Israeli government. I think that's going to be done.

Speaker 1

And of course if they do ask us.

Speaker 11

For assistance, we have to provide it because knowing knowing Donald Trump, he's going to say, well, if you don't help us in the Persian Gulf, the oil that you need won't be protected by the American Navy.

Speaker 4

Is that boots on the ground.

Speaker 11

I think so.

Speaker 4

I think what you're saying is we could be dragged.

Speaker 11

I don't think we'll be dragged into it. I think I think, I actually think that we're going to see regime change a lot quicker than what anybody's expecting. I think that you'll see from from from my reading of history there, I think what you're seeing today with dancing in the street means that, uh, there will be regime change, but a lot more people need to be removed from that regime as well. You know, one assassination. One assassination doesn't make a regime change. That will need to be done.

That will need to be done. But I think think about Gold for one, where Bob Hawk sent a few Royal Australian Navy ships. I think that's probably the least we should expect to be doing, because we can't expect the Americans to take all the heat. We can't accept that.

We can't expect the Israelis to run a shotgun for us and then enjoy the trade, the trade that will come from having a new peace treaty in the Persian Gulf and not expect to be able to be asked to provide some sort of support, both morally and of course militarily.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Look, I mean it's going to be interesting to say.

Speaker 3

And I mean, just chaining to Michael Schubridge just before the brainer, he said it might be very difficult to just have this as.

Speaker 4

An air an air, right, and we do.

Speaker 3

And just to pick up on David's point there about labor and Labour's response, so and I said at the top of the show, prew that Labor has been on the wrong side of history when it comes to all of these matters. And we'll bring up that photo again. Remember we saw ed Hugh Sick, former Foreign Minister, as well Bob Carr on the Sydney Harbor Bridge last year and here it is next to the portrait of the Ayatola.

Speaker 4

Look prove the Prime Minister didn't say anything about it.

Speaker 3

Then he's come out strongly today while the Foreign Minister was still darting about talking about dialogue and diplomacy, but he hasn't been strong on anything now for two years.

Speaker 12

And the problem, well we all know why because we know where his allegiance lies, and it has been since he was a student activist. Since this is the problem, his policies have followed what he has really deep down wanted to see happen. So here he is in the situation now where is the other side of history really and he's got to accept that this is a momentous occasion that's going to be great for the world. I just hope that the Israelis and the US finish it off.

They need to get rid of hammers, They need to get rid of Hasbellah and the hooties because particularly now they're talking about issues with the straits of a Mussin and getting you know, the aill through, So they need to make sure that they do get this done. But of course it leaves you know, Albanesi in a really compromised state and a state of dilemma.

Speaker 4

I'm quite sure.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well, I mean, I feel like he's been in a dilemma for the past two and a half years.

Speaker 4

But let's talk about the Greens.

Speaker 3

They seem to be already falling for the terror propaganda out of Iran. The Greens leader Larissa Waters said Trumperenetna, whose illegal attacks last night have unleashed chaos across the Middle East. The Greens condemned these illegal, bhorrent and unilateral attacks. Australians do not want to be dragged into another US Israeli war. David, I love how they're not on the side of the Iranians who actually wanted this, who have been screaming in the hope of liberation since nineteen seventy nine.

But they seem to be actually on the side of an evil dictatorship.

Speaker 4

And what does that say.

Speaker 11

It's not just that it's an evil dictator I mean the Greens need to realize by supporting the Iatola's regime, they were supporting his policies, which include throwing gay men off the ceilings of buildings.

Speaker 4

Good point included.

Speaker 11

I mean, and they were supporting a regime that was making its most of its money from the sale of oil. So my appeal to the Greens, this is a celebration for you because the big winners in Iran today the gay community, because they won't be shot and why they were supporting a regime that was manufacturing and refining that evil product called oil, but they wanted to keep them there. So I don't understand. I don't understand their mentality. I don't think they understand them.

Speaker 4

I don't think so.

Speaker 11

And of course it drips into the left wing of the Labor Party. That's what we saw with Penny Wong today. That's why they're so horrified, because they are going to have to stand up and say, well, the defender of democracy, liberal democracy today was actually Donald Trump and the Israeli government, and they're not going to want to say that, but that's exactly what's happened.

Speaker 4

Exactly.

Speaker 3

They're the two leaders with moral courage and moral clarity to actually go out and do this. And the other thing that bothers me, Prough is where are the feminists right now? The risk of waters cause herself a feminist, but I am yet to see one feminist come out in support of the Iranian women who have been under a suppressed regime where they've been treated like dogs for since nineteen seventy nine. And it's the same feminists who were silent when Jewish women were raped on October seven.

Speaker 4

Where are they well?

Speaker 12

God knows in their you know, crying in their beds. You know, these harpies from the Greens wouldn't actually even be allowed to function in Iran, would they, you know. I mean, this is the hypocrisy and stupidity of it that you've got these feminists bending over backwards because anything to do with Trump or Israel, you know, they don't want to know about. So of course they'd rather see women oppressed in Iran and you know, not worry and

have no human rights. Frankly, So this is the problem that the dilemma of these feminists who really have have become silent, and it's really had to see. I don't think we'll see them come out anymore, you know. I just think that they're going to go into their little hovels and wait till they can have another go at Trump or you know, well who else. You know, they just they come out from under and they have a go if it's not their their you know, narrate narrative, it's that's sad.

Speaker 4

Well.

Speaker 3

I mean, the left again, always on the wrong side of history. Yet they will tell you that they are the most tolerant of them all. They love everyone. They're not it's all absolutely false. And we've got to talk about the ABC's coverage.

Speaker 4

Here was one of its senior journalists.

Speaker 3

This is John Lyon, his reaction to Donald Trump's speech overnight.

Speaker 13

My main impression listening to that is that's Israel's agenda. That's Israel's talking points, not the United States. That speech could have been written and delivered by Benjamin Ettanyahu. That is completely different from what Donald Trump's been saying. Only yesterday he said we are negotiating and they were all looking for a nuclear pro and a nuclear de i. But there he's talking about nineteen eighty three and this and that and their bloodthirsty and terror. My main impression

is that this is being driven by Israel. And what we just heard was the President of the United States, in my assessment, almost saying word for word Israel's agenda.

Speaker 4

What an appalling statement to make.

Speaker 3

Donald Trump gave one of the most important addresses in US presidential history. He literally said to Iran, go and take your country back.

Speaker 4

Now we're doing this for you.

Speaker 3

And John Lyon seems to think it was out of it was a carbon copy of.

Speaker 4

Something that Benjamin Etnia. Where is the mentality in all of this.

Speaker 1

Well, where is the objectivity?

Speaker 11

I mean, maybe John Lenson is going to read the charter of the ABC, because that's clearly not what we're seeing out of the ABC from him or others at the moment, unfortunately.

Speaker 1

But I mean, just because.

Speaker 11

Israel and the United States are both on the same side, which is the side of the Angels, as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't mean that they're colluding with their speech writers. And as you're quite right, I thought, I'm not a member of the Donald Trump cheer squad. But I'll tell you what I thought. I saw a president

come through last night and today. I thought that we saw he was highlighting the fact that this was a world in international problem, and he was prepared to which is unusual because in the past we've seen him say that around the world, you've got problems, try to sort of out it before you come to me. But he has decided that this is going to be one of those hills that he will put a he'll put.

Speaker 1

A flag in.

Speaker 11

And of course, but why was why is the ABC even commenting on this? There were there were This wasn't a shock. This was not a shock. The United States President had said all along, I haven't made up my mind, But of course he's going to say that right up until the until h hower.

Speaker 14

Of course he's going.

Speaker 11

To say that he's not going to want to give the regime an opportunity. What if the I toler had decided he was going to disappear to his country estate that day and he wasn't there. So of course the United States is going to make sure that they maintained the element of surprise. But the mere fact that they that they were saying what the Israeli government had been asking them to say and others is no surprise to anybody in the ABC think that they're breaking news right now,

providing leading commentary. They're living in Disneyland.

Speaker 3

Literally living in La La Land, And they've done the same thing since October seven, twenty twenty three. Their coverage of the Middle East conflict has been biased from day one, and then you know, not even twenty four hours after the eye tooler is taken out in an airstrike, the only thing that they could say, prou was trying to compare Donald Trump's important and critical speech to the world to Benjamin Jahovah that.

Speaker 4

They had no analysis on it whatsoever.

Speaker 12

Well, They obviously have talking points too. You know, they're having a go at the Trump and Israel. I mean, it's just the continual harping narrative of the ABC.

Speaker 4

Why anybody would.

Speaker 12

Bother tuning in on momentous days like this, because you know what you're going to get from them, don't you. And it's just pathetic to think that, you know, they have ignored what is going to be talked about for years to come. This is a momentous, amazing day by a brave president who's done what so many others.

Speaker 1

Look at bid and look at Obama.

Speaker 12

They actually send billions to Iran. You know, yes, you know, and here we have people having a go at Trump. God's say, we should be all thanking him because the world is going to be a safer play.

Speaker 3

Well, he has delivering on his mandate to stop wars. So you know, let's see where this is. It's a long way to go though, don't get me wrong, there's a long way to go. This is only just day one, but you know, thank goodness for Donald Trump's leadership in this matter. Seriously, David Elliott, prim's been great to have you both on on this very important day.

Speaker 4

Thanks so much, for joining me.

Speaker 3

Coming up after the break break, Democrats claim Donald Trump targeted Iran deliberately because it's Brahmadan. Would you believe I'll go live to the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem, Fleur Hassan Nahum. Next, let's go to the UK now to see how Britain has responded to the Iran strike. Astronomy is gb News host Emily Kaver. Emily, thank you very much for joining me. I want to start off with what the UK Prime Minister Kiirs Starmer said.

Speaker 4

Have a listen.

Speaker 14

The United Kingdom played no role in these strikes, but we have long been clear the regime in Iran is utterly abhorrent.

Speaker 4

Emily, what a bizarre response.

Speaker 3

I mean, this is deja vus of when the US deposed of Venezuela's Nicholas Maduro. Starmer's first reaction was, oh, well, the UK played no part. Well, I mean, of course, the UK played no part. I mean Starma wouldn't even have had the spine or the moral courage to do so in the first place.

Speaker 15

Well, absolutely, you've got it in London.

Speaker 16

Ka.

Speaker 15

It's the usual from kir Starmer.

Speaker 17

A whole lot of wapple, a whole lot of fence sitting, a whole lot of not trying to upset anyone, but upsetting everyone at the same time, as Worth pointing out that this took hours for him to see anything, to put out anything on Twitter, to get up and tell us what he actually thought. Despite other world leaders across the world coming out strongly for or against the US Israeli action, all he had to say was that.

Speaker 15

The UK wasn't involved.

Speaker 17

But the regime is very bad and we've known that for a long time. But of course we need to avoid further escalation and return to diplomacy. Yes, because diplomacy is going was going so well with the Islamic Republic of Iram. This is a man who doesn't know what position to take, so he tries to take all of the positions at once. Do we even know now whether he supports the action taken by Israel in the United States? What about the potential IRGC sleeper cells in the UK?

What about the people out on the streets and support of the Ayatolla in London and this murderous regime. No word on the fact that we clearly have thousands of people who are happy to endorse the Muellers in this country, despite the fact that they've plotted terrorism on our shores.

Speaker 15

I'm concerned about that, Danika.

Speaker 3

Yeah, look absolutely, As you said, we don't know what Kastamus stands for because he never gives you a clear response. It's a bit like Anthony Alberezi. But in response to this libor pays over there have called on Kio Starma to take action against charities that they claim form part of an Iranian influence operation in Britain.

Speaker 4

Take us through it.

Speaker 17

Yeah, So this is very interesting because it's coming from within the labor ranks. So surely they should put some pressure on Kirs Starmer to actually speak out on this issue, to actually speak out on the fact that we have become a haven for Islamic terrorism in this country. Yes, some labor MPs are calling on Starma to take action against these charities organizations which seemingly back the Islamic Revolutionary

Guard Corps. This is not new, Danika. We've known about the hostile Iranian state influence in the UK in this country for decades and decades. We know that since twenty twenty two only at least twenty terra plots on UK SUL have been organized by the Iranian regime itself and thankfully have been foiled by our secret services and the likes. So the warriors, now that we're going to see what's left of the regime try and lash out in the West,

and that could happen here in the United Kingdom. They've still not yet prescribed this IRGC as a terror group in this country. And I wonder why we have a mosque actually a stone's throwaway from where I'm sitting right now, which has been under investigation by the Charity Commission since twenty twenty two. It's literally led by a man who is appointed directly by Iran's Supreme Leader himself.

Speaker 15

This is what's going on in this country.

Speaker 17

We've got huge numbers of Iranians and others in central London celebrating the demise of the Ayatollah. We've got an outpouring of support for Israel the United States. But on the other side, the reaction from many on the far left is outrage, pearl clutching, cries of it's illegal. I'm sure you've seen this on Australia as well. We have a large crowds of people happy to stand outside Parliament protesting for the Islamic Republic waiving the flag of this

despotic regime that kills its own citizens. We've seen even protester as burning the Lion and Sun flag while chanting Ali or Atbar. Even the deputy leader of the Green Party, moth In Ali, the party that just won an election in the North of England, joined the rally in London in support of the ISLA regime in Iran. It's truly

truly shocking. I mean, we certainly learned that the Green Party is a threat to national security from all of this, but I do worry very much about how Kistarmer is going to handle any of this.

Speaker 3

Well, exactly what's happened to the Green Party the same response the Green Party has had here in Australia, it's around the world, it's everywhere, and this is, you know, the so called tolerant left, but when it comes to peace, you's so a very different side to them. Emily Carver have to leave it there. Thank you very much for joining me on the show. Let's now bring in the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem, Flur Hassam Nahum Flur, thanks for

your time on what is a historic day. I just want to show those celebrations across Iran again have a lot. I mean, this is what Iranians have waited for since the Islamic Revolution. How significant is this moment.

Speaker 16

It's amazing. And you know, when people criticize Israel in the United States dates for doing this operation, all you have to see is the reaction of the people that we're helping liberate to know that we're on the right side of history and all the detractors are on the wrong side of history. They're the same people who would have said, let's try and negotiate with the devil with Hitler in the nineteen thirties. The Second World War would have been avoided if you would have had more churchills

and less chamberlains. And look what we have today in the world, Very many chamberlains and a few Churchills. And that's where we find ourselves. But this is not just in Iran, the entire Iranian diaspora. You see this in the UK, you see this in America, everywhere else. The Iranians are celebrating the end of an era, the death of Khamani, who's caused so much suffering in the country and around the world.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, and I've got to say, both Donald Trump and Benjamin Ntinya, who's leadership on this has been absolutely incredible to fear US leaders who have actually gone and taken cut the head off the snake.

Speaker 4

No other world later would have done that. But I just want to compare this to the Democrats.

Speaker 3

Representative Ilan Omer said quote, Iraq was attacked by the US during Ramadan, and it's sickening to know that the US is again going to attack Iran during Ramadan. The US apparently loves to strike Muslim countries during Ramadan. And I'm convinced it isn't what these countries have done to violate international law, but about who they worship. And firstly, flow what on earth has it got to do with Ramadan?

But what does this say about the left? These people are not standing up for Iran, They're standing up for the regime.

Speaker 16

Well, if she's so sensitive to other people's religion, I would like to remind her that October seventh was on one of our happiest Jewish holidays of the year, called Simkhatura and a Sabbath. So it seems that her religious sensitivities only apply to her own religion. Because the Jewish people were attacked in a very holy day for us. But putting that a sign, you have a fifth column

everywhere in the world. Which are these people that instead of coming and being grateful to the country that took them in when they were refugees and they were running away from the dysfunction and the murder of those same Islamic governments that they ran away from. Now they're in a country where there's peace, there's prosperity, there's freedom, and instead of being loyal to that country, there's still loyal to the very Islamic regimes they ran away from. You

can't make this up. And it's not just in America. She's only one example. You see that in the UK. You see that of course in Australia. If it's so wonderful the Islamic laws that they run away from go back, why are you a fifth column in the country that gave you the opportunity?

Speaker 4

Apps? I couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 3

Flower, Almost out of time, but I just want to quickly ask you about the role of October seven and actually ridding the world of Islamic Marxism. We've got Hamni the Hamastic tiger, like Yaya Sinwa Hassan Israla are all dead now. I mean, it's it is sad though that it took a massacre to get to this point.

Speaker 16

Absolutely, Danika, I mean the biggest own her own goal in history. The October the seventh massacre was started by yea Ya Sinhwa with the understanding that Hasbola would attack Israel from the north, that the Arabs in Judae, Samaria the West Bank would attack Israel from within, that the Arabs in Jerusalem would also attack us, and that Iran would attack us. This was supposed to be the end of Israel and instead, look, we are reshaping the Middle East.

It's been the end of every single Islamic Iranian proxy, as well as the Supreme Leader, and hopefully we pray the Islamic Republic itself.

Speaker 4

Well fingers cross.

Speaker 3

We're all hoping and praying that there is now a really, really fantastic future ahead for Iran. Fleur Hassanna home, We've got to there. Thank you very much for joining me.

Speaker 4

So with us. My final thought is next, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3

As we continue our ongoing coverage of those strikes in Iran, and as we mentioned earlier, Donald Trump has received word from Iran that they will proceed with retaliatory strikes, though Donald Trump has said that there would be hell to pay if they.

Speaker 4

Do indeed go with it.

Speaker 3

We will keep you up to date throughout the evening as this story unfolds on what is such a momentous and historic day, not only for Iran but of course around the world, as we still do not know the repercussions of the strikes, what it means for Australia. Could we be dragged into any conflict, It remains to be seen. Well before we go tonight, just some quick news from me. This is my last Sunday show. Starting in a week's time, I will be joining kayleb Bond and James McPherson as

co host on The Late Debate Monday to Thursday. So you can continue to catch me on Opinionated Fridays at eight pm and on my podcast, Danika Goh's Global that's every Monday on Sky News Australia's YouTube channel. But I'm certainly very excited to be part of Sky's weekday primetime lineup starting in a week's time.

Speaker 4

It's very exciting. Thank you for your company. Stay with us at James.

Speaker 3

McPherson is next with the McPherson angle with the latest on this unfolding situation in Iran.

Speaker 4

Good Night,

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