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Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight.
Pauline Hansen is now the most popular politician in the country as one nation's primary vote surges according to a new poll that's just dropped. I'll get Barnaby Joyce's reaction. Shortly, Jim Chalmers told us he'd slayed the inflation dragon, yet an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed on Tuesday. Economist Leith van Nsulin has crunched the numbers. He'll tell us what it means for your hip pocket when the federal budget is handed down and it goes from bad to worse.
For Andrew mount Batton Windsor as.
New photos are released of him on all fours over a female, I'll go live to London and catch up with gb News host Emily Carver. But first tonight, Australia welcomed Labour's hand picked race discrimination Commissioner, Giradahan Siveraman into this country with welcome arms. He was born in India and migrated to Australia as a.
Child, and wow, what a career he's had.
From lawyer at Morris Blackburn to being appointed to the Human Rights Commission on a salary paid by you to the tune of four hundred thousand dollars a year. This country has given him a lot. So how does the commissioner repay the Australia that welcomed him and has helped him flourish and earn a very good living.
Well, mister SILVERL. Rahman has gone on an SBS.
Podcast called The Spice to talk about Australia Day and Australian values. Now you might be thinking, oh, he's shown his pride and love for the country he migrated.
To for a better life.
No, his idea of thanking Australia basically involves blaming assies for what he describes as an undercurrent of nationalism. He said, when it comes to January twenty six, it becomes so difficult because there's this undercurrent of nationalism love it or leave it phenomenon where people go, well, unless you're with us against us, and so you've just got to on January.
Twenty six, you've got to kiss the flag, love the country, otherwise go away.
Well, god forbid, you want to kiss your flag? How dare you stoke that division? So it's loving your country. Apparently that's a problem. What a real charming way to give gratitude to the country. The commissioner came to and then he went.
On the independence for India is such a different thing to January twenty six. In Australia, independence from India was finally shaking off the yoke of the colonial masters, the British, whereas here January twenty sixth six is such a conflicted day. And for me, as a migrant from India, I was born in India, I came here when I was young. I feel very conflicted when I think about January twenty six.
Well, if you have.
A problem with what we do in Australia and how we celebrate, and you are so pro the country you have come from, then why not go back? I mean, the progressive left have been slowly infiltrating and ultimately seeking to tear down the values and traditions of the Australia that once was, with the ultimate aim of destroying everything that British settlers brought to this country.
And we are the lucky country.
And I will point out Australia is home to almost one million Indian born residents, and I would be curious to put those comments by the commissioner to anyone of those who love this country.
But here was the real pearler.
I think, what are we celebrating. We're all on stolen land and we actually need truth telling about the history of this land.
We're all on stolen land.
Well, that sounds to me like we're all culpable of something that's morally wrong, because that's what theft is. Right now, if he believes this land was stolen, then why has he accepted a salary worth.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars from all of us.
Doesn't that make him equally as culpable in what he claims we are? And in his final attack on Australia, he gave migrants this message.
If we're going to come together, we should come together on a platform of truth and honesty. And I think migrants need to have that understanding, that sense of positionality where they are.
Look, this is extraordinary.
He even went as far as to suggest to the Saturday Telegraph that the day had been co opted by white supremacists. He says it is a day when colonialization began, which led to first peoples being forced off their country and onto missions and reserves, genocidal acts, massacres, systemic child removal and more. It is, in my view, it is not racist to love your country. Let's be very clear, it is not racist to be proud of your country.
Yet for a commissioner who was supposed to be putting an end to racism and division, he seems to be obsessed with the contrary and apparently Australia Day is not the only day the race Discrimination Commissioner.
Is having a hard time with.
He doesn't like public holidays in general, claiming the only religious public holidays recognized by law are Christian ones. He doesn't like Harmony Day because it is somewhat jarring that a day recognizing a massacre born of racism is replaced with a day of celebration under the banner of Harmony Day. He doesn't want a migration debate because it serves to
stoke the already smoldering fires of racism. Apparently, well, I'll give the commissioner an idea of why we talk about what is happening in some sections of our community.
Towards the end of the times, when the Muslims will be fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stone will speak and they will say, oh Muslim, oh believer, there is a YAHOODI behind me, Come and kill him.
Now.
It's certainly not racist to point out that our social cohesion has fractured. He claims councils were built during colonial times and banked in during the White Australia policy, saying they were not designed to let in people of color. They certainly weren't designed for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, which is quite ironic when you think councils have spent millions on welcome to country ceremonies, four million a year on first Nation ceremonies and protocols alone in just one
South Australian council. The commissioner was even offended when a listener on a radio station said he sounded oker. I felt embarrassed, a bit ashamed. Deep down, I knew I had developed my strine to fit in. I had to let go of my mother tongue Tamil, a language of beautiful literature and poetry, so as not to sound different, claiming it as a result of institutions and structures that
divide us. Well, the number one language in this country is English, and given the Race Commissioner's prominent role, you'd think it would indeed require him to speak the beautiful literary and poetry that is English, but it's not something that he's even pondered.
Now you're in the workplace, your muneration's been set, But are you culturally safe if you're from a racialized background or a First nation's background. Can languages other than English be spoken in the workplace? I know of many workplaces where people have been penalized for speaking languages other than English.
Gosh, the Race Discrimination Commissioner is having just such a difficult time in Australia and he's only two years into his five year term. Is there anything ghirad Haran Sibaman likes about Australia, anything at all?
So firstly, I just want to acknowledge that I'm coming to you from the unseated lands of the augur and the turable people here in meanjin to glorious, glorious sunny day. Pay my respects to elders present, and extend those respects to any Aboriginal entys other people that might be listening to this podcast.
And that tells you everything you need to know about where your four hundred thousand dollars is going.
Well. Let me paint a picture of Federal Parliament this week for you. Fresh off the back of their split, the.
Liberals and Nationals won't sit together as one for the first time since the nineteen eighties.
Nationals leader David.
Little Proud could face a leadership spill tomorrow after NAT's MP Colinn Boyce mounted a challenge claiming he was unhappy with the way his leader handled the divorce. Yet Boyce today admitted he probably doesn't even have the numbers.
Now the way it stands at the moment. If David retains the leadership, which I expect he will, I will be comprehensibly defeated. I'm sincerely hoping that somebody else will stand up and nominate for leadership other than that.
Now it's highly unusual admission for someone who has spent the past week plotting to topple a leader, But then there's a Liberal part leader. Susan Lee is all at sea, yet for now it appears she will survive as leader of the Opposition for how long who knows. After a meeting last week between potential replacements Angus Taylor and Andrew Hasty.
Hasty then pulled out of any potential leadership challenge. Chief political reporter Andrew Clarnell is reporting that Angus Taylor won't challenge for the Liberal leadership when the party room meets on Tuesday.
So we have a situation.
Where Susan Lee is not only at odds with Labor, but she's at odds with the Nationals and at odds.
With the right of her party.
She's set the deadline of February nine for the Nats to rejoin the coalition or she will reallocate their shadow portfolios to.
Her Liberal colleagues.
Little Proud has turned down her offer of peace talks ahead of Parliament, and both would be hoping each.
Other gets rolled.
Yet Liberal senator and Rusten claims that the Liberal Party can go to an election alone.
Well, the certainty is unless you get back in coalition, you can't win an election, isn't that.
The Well, I think you've only got a look at history to say that that actually isn't true. But of course we are always stronger when we are in coalition, and I absolutely agree with that.
But you know, to be a to be.
Think he can win just as a Liberal party, You think he can just win as a Liberal party, do.
You It's happened before, Andrew and I think the one thing that we've learned in politics is that you know, you never say never, that things change very very quickly.
Look, she's dreaming. The party can't go it alone. It needs the Nationals to form government. And as you can imagine, Anthony Albanezi is having the time of his life.
Well they're shambles and they're focused on each other and their hatred of each other. We're focused on the Australian people and their needs and the national interest. You can't fight for Australians if you're obsessed by fighting yourselves, and that is what the former coalition have become.
Have I missed anything?
I mean it's a complete circus And have a look at this breaking news tonight. New polling from Redbridge and Accent in the Financial Review tells the full story. One nation's primary vote is sitting at twenty six percent, up nine percent. Have a look at the coalitions nineteen percent. That's down seven Pauline Hansen is now the most popular politician in the country with thirty eight percent favorable rating, and that is compared to the Prime Minister on thirty
four percent. Susan Lee ten percent behind both Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor. Seriously, Australia deserves better than this. Where is the alternative government that conservative voters across this country are crying out for?
Where is it?
No wonder One Nation is now more popular than the former coalition, And the longer this divorce goes on and leadership tensions are dragged out, the more votes go to Pauline Hanson's party.
Why because the.
Liberals have totally straight away from their conservative values.
Now.
I think it was always likely to be the case. Andrew Hasty would not get the numbers as the bedwetting moderates throw the one nation light label around, and I think it's a shame. I think Andrew Hasty has been very strong on immigration and energy policy, albeit it was disappointing to see him capitulate over that hate speech legislation, but he has never been one to shy away from his views and that is what the party needs now.
Late on Friday, Angus Taylor posted on social media that he shares those values with Hasty, saying he is a patriot committed to tackling the big problems our country faces and I share many of his views on reducing immigration, restoring cheap energy, reviving Australian industry and rebuilding national pride. So if Angus Taylor is the man who will mount a challenge, then surely, surely he cannot waste any more
time because the polls are diabolical for Susan Lee. But already the sharks are coming for Taylor.
Of course, the convention is if one does not support the leader, they step aside. Angus hasn't done that, so my running assumption is he continues to support Susan Lee in her leadership.
In the end, the Liberal Party can change leaders.
But unless it has strong, cut through policies that are not labor light and backed up by a fearless leader who is willing to take a stand on issues like immigration, like who we are bringing into this country, our social cohesion, energy, putting our values first, then the party will remain in the wilderness for a long time to come. The focus
this week should be on inflation. The focus should be on the fact power prices are set to surge more than twenty percent this year as Labour's energy bills subsidies end. The band Aid was always going to be just that a band Aid. The focus should be on Anthony Albaneze's disastrous summer.
In the wake of Bondai.
The focus should be on cost of living, and yet the focus is on coalition disunity.
Joinning me now is One Nation.
MP Barnaby, Joyce Barnaby, it's great to get you on the show.
Thank you for joining me.
I do want to ask you about the coalition chaos in a moment, but I've got to ask you about that polling that's just dropped in the Financial Review. A poll done by Redbridge an accent has revealed that Pauline Hanson, your leader, is now the most popular political leader in the country.
What's your response to that.
That's because she's the most authentic, and that's because people understand that she's lived life where she's.
Been in small business.
That's because they understand we're dealing with a person who's so tough. I mean, this lady's been in jail and she came out and basically broke bread with the people who tried to put her in jail. Well did put her in People understand that what Pauline has said in the past and she's ridiculed for, has now come out to be the truth and people want Australia to be strong,
they want it to be unified. They want strength, clarity, unity, and they see Pauline in one Nation delivering that and you know, of course, and it goes out saying that the Coalition it's so sad, but it's it's just disintegrated into a rubble. What we've seen, like what's going to happen, Danika, what's going to happen when they actually have to go
to the question time where they all sit. When they go down there, they realize that if you're not a minister, you can't be in a shadow minister's office, if you're not a shadow ministry, you've got to go out.
The staff are sacked.
I mean, if Colin Boys leaves, the cross Bench will be bigger than the National Party. And that this is this they've just they've just signed off in a week where we are going to have interest rates put up. I imagine the Reserve Bank will bump them up. Cost of living will be a disaster for people. Angie price is going up by twenty five percent by first July. That's from them, that's from the government and people are
at their hurting. Danika and I saw it the other day at a coffee shop four thousand dollars a quarter for his power bill, As he said to me, how many coffees do you think I have to sell to get four thousand dollars just to pay the power butcher shop down the road also considering closing down. This is happening in Australia right now. All our major industry is going and we've got the Chinese stooge around the joint sizing this up, and people are really angry. They just
don't feel that we're focused on the main game. But one nation is focused on the main game, and we're incredibly humbled. We've got a massive task in front of us, and we know that vote is an indicator, not a vote. But we'll continue to do the best job we can to get the trust of the Israil people and we back it up on people who've been in business like my off and Pauline.
Well.
I do want to get back to the coalition and split in a minute, but I just want to bring up that polling again because if you have a look at at Barnaby, Pauline and yourself are way more favorable.
To voters than any of the Liberals.
You're currently sitting, as we can see on the screen there, you're sitting at twenty three percent, Pauline Hanson at thirty eight, Anthony Arberzi at thirty.
Four, Susan Lee a mere ten percent.
Also your former leader David Little Proud, he's on thirteen.
What does that tell you?
Well, speak as I say, Reebs the Locketter, it speaks for itself. I think there's been an epiphany in Australia and people feel now they have a license to basically say, in the more comfortable circumstances of dinner with their friends that yeah, I vote for one nation.
I'm a one nation voter.
And the more people are saying that to one another, they're saying, actually, yeah, actually I.
Am now as well. And I see that. Whether it's the.
Pensioners I saw on the road today over there over near Dorigo, whether it's Hippi's playing at a band at an RSL club he's turned up for lunch basically saying hey, we're voting one nation, and business people, senior business people in Sydney right at the very top saying that this is chaotic and we're not We're going to one nation. And I think One Nation has now given people license
to do precisely that. And that's what happens is it's a political marketplace, and us on this side of the political fence believe in the market.
And the market has.
Now decided that there's a different product on the shelf and they're buying it.
It's called One Nation.
Yeah, I mean you must be pretty happy with the move you've made. The coalitions in a mess. As you said to where are they going to sit? Where are they going to sit? But I have to ask you what you were leader of the Nationals ones you managed to keep the coalition together in the past when you've had your vast differences.
Is David Little Proud unable to do that? In your view? What is the problem?
This is the second time they've had it.
So they had a marriage when they after the election, then they had a divorce and days then they got back and got married again.
Now they're getting divorced. Well they're divorced, but it's.
All right because they want to get married again before the election.
Now, if you went.
To a dinner party uneek her and that was what was sitting across the table from you, would you think you had a pretty solid relationship in your that you were observing.
Or would you say, I'm just.
Going to work out how quickly i can have sweets and get the hell out of here.
Yeah, you'd be going with the latter. You'd be saying, get me the heck out of here.
But this is the this is the problem, and that's why I'm wondering where does it start.
Should have gripped it together?
I mean, you know, even people, I'll be honest, even people who mightn't be my actually my political foes within the National Party and other people who you know, I get along with. If you've been around for long enough, we all had one thing in common. You need not break up the coalition it is that is seismic.
I mean, you're gonna run that.
You're not going to now with us with one nation and I'm looking forward to it. You haven't got three cornered contests. You got four cornered contests and.
We're leading, and you know we'll be right in there.
You decided to do that, that's your problem. And what are you going to say when we get this marriage back together again?
It's all going to be fine. This time it's different. This time it's different.
You know, no so, and now he hasn't actually thought the only person who's getting more salary, by the way, at the moment, would be missed a little proud you're getting his forty five percent increment as a minor party leader. All the rest, I hope they've got their mortgages worked out because they're going to take a big haircut.
And there's staff these people. I really feel for their staff Asack they're gone. And by the.
Way, I hope you've got your packing boxes out because you're out of your offices and out to the boondocks with the rest of us.
Yeah, I just want to ask you about the race discrimination Commissioner. But but before I get to that, is Colin Boyce going to join one nation?
Oh?
Look, I leave that up to Colin boys As I've said, I don't hawk for I or Pauline.
Pauline never hawked.
For business with me, and neither the Sean and neither this Malcolm and nas Tyrant.
And we're not hawking for business.
If people want to approach one nation and discuss joining one nation, and I'm sure.
There'll be the proper respect given to that process.
But you've spoken to him, you've spoken to him.
Well, my advice to everybody is to try and work it out. You know.
My advice is, don't jump ship. Try and work it out where you are. Try and work the marriage out before you decide to get out of it. And that would have been good advice to give to mister little Brown. Just quietly, all right.
Let's move on.
I mentioned the race Discrimination Commissioner at the start of the program. He now claims, among other things, that we are on stolen land. I think this is staggering comments, firstly from an immigrant and a man who has built his career in Australia and is now in four hundred thousand dollars courtesy of the taxpayer.
What are your thoughts on his comments.
Well, I'm hoping he's going to hand over the titles of his house if it's stolen.
It's disgusting.
He's got to get out of that house, hand the titles back, and I've got a lot of Aboriginal friends around here. We can We'll take it and I can it out to his mates and Coldale though happily take the house off him, and anything else will have to be stolen as well, so they can hand over the car and handover his sleeper and handover everything.
Else because obviously he is. He has outed himself.
That he is a thief and he has got to be an honorable thief now and hand back all his stolen goodies to the to.
The appropriate people. I've got a lot of people in line to take it off him.
Yeah, we're all culpable of theft. If you believe what he's saying here, Barnaby, it's sallow up like that.
Well exactly that's where we're heading, Barnabe Joyce. It's great to have a chat with you as always. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. Really appreciate it. We'll joining me now. He's former New South Wales Police Minister David Elliott and verb Communications Peru McSwain.
Hi to both of you, Thanks for joining me. I'll tell you what, Barnaby didn't mince his word.
We've got it.
We got it.
Look, we have to obviously.
Start on this polling and I'm very curious to get your response to this. David, as a member of the Liberals, it's diabolic.
I mean you look at the primary vote the coalition.
Is sitting on nineteen now, it's down seven one nation twenty six it's added.
Nine to its primary vote.
What's your response, Well, it's clearly panic stations and we need some serious leadership within the Conservative side of politics. Clearly Barnaby and Pauline are going to be calling the shots when it comes to the narrative from Conservative Australians over the course of the next two years.
And what Barnaby said was right.
Pauline's been now being proven as being prophetic and certainly she has been authentic and the Liberal Party hasn't. My great concern, it was put to me this morning by the very senior Liberal is that the Liberal Party.
Have not realized how bad this is.
They seem to think that this is a period in opposition that will pass and then in due course they will come back. But the pattern is suggesting that within the next three months one nation will have twice the vote of the coalition and so we really need those party elders to come in now and say right, you're going, you're going, you're going recruiting this person, this person, this person, and let's come up with the policies.
Let's come up with a narrative that is going.
To bring Conservative votes back in There's two problems with the Liberal Party at the moment. The first one is the moderates seem to think that we have to go to the center and kill the teels first. We're not getting back, We're not going to be getting those seats back. We need to go and appeal to the Conservative voters because they've clearly shown that they are going to go to Pauline Hansen just to punish us, and was put
to me again today that's rightly or wrongly. There is more effort in the Liberal Party in Sydney at the moment to make sure that the float for the Mardi Grari has got together than it is to respond to what crisis we've got in Polish they are just cot of touch with what is going on. And thank god we don't have an election this year. But if you look at South Australia, you look at New South Wales, you look at Victoria, we're probably going to go backwards.
Well, I mean this polling suggests that you are.
You know, the Liberals are very very backwards as it is, and as we just mentioned, pro so Pauline Hanson now the most popular political leader in this country. Susan Lee sitting at just ten percent favorability.
What does that tell you, Well, it tells you that they're totally stuffed. I mean, the Liberal Party has totally misread the community. They have not realized the legitimacy of one nation. They've always looked down on them, as has every political party, and denigrated and tried to undermine Pauline Hanson. And meanwhile they've been betraying and let's face it, in any relationship, trust and betrayal are keywords, and Conservative voters have been betrayed and have no trust in the Liberal
Party anymore or the coalition. Frankly, it's a circus. They have not focused on what is going wrong with this country, the fact that we have the worst government since Whitlam in control and they are stuffing this country. They should be all in the dock for murdering this country. The sign concerned, So I mean to have absolute inertia. They're so busy creating a rabble amongst themselves. It's just appalling and a betrayal of every conservative voter. And they deserve what they're getting.
Great.
Frankly, most people I know they've been traditional liberal voters are now going to one nation.
I completely agree and look as I said, I honestly thought that Andrew Hasey would have been a really good choice. So where does this leave Angus Taylor? Now, what would be your advice to him?
Well, I don't think that we've got the next leader of the Liberal Party, the next Liberal Prime ministers in the party room at the moment.
I think we've got to.
The position where we can expect to be out of government for so long that there will be a generation change. There is a lot of criticism of Angus Taylor have not being able to get control of an economic agenda. It led up to the last election, which is one
of the reasons why we faulted at the inn. And I think that he has to wear that and he has to explain to people why there was no economic narrative on the conservative side, on the Liberal Party side, when the polls always suggest that that's our strongest that's our space. Defense and economy is our space, and we just didn't have it. So I think, I mean, I hate seeing a change of leadership for the sake of changing of a leader, because we've done that in state
politics enough to realize that it doesn't work. In fact, it fails more often than it works, and yes, Bob Hawk did it, but I'm sorry to say, Angus Taylor ain't no Bob, he ain't.
Thirty five percent of the people in that pole don't even know who Angus's salary is. That tells you everything.
And he's been in long enough that they should and he's had positions where they should know.
Well, I mean, is it a case of waiting for Josh Fridenberg.
Yes, well, if he's going to get his act together, I think it would be great if he does. I always thought Josh was a little bit woke, but he's been so impressive.
I have been extrame.
Yeah he has, so I think that he would really garner a huge vote if you come in. But it's not going to happen, as David said quite a while. And meanwhile, Colleen Hanson's party is going to just brain it.
But it's a good point you make that, DENI. I mean, we do have the talent.
We've got my Bed, you know, we've got Nicole Flint, We've got we've got done.
Andrew Hasty, We've got Josh Friedenberg.
There are people there, but unfortunately there is there is a there is a vacuum of leadership in the liberpoty to make tough decisions at a time when tough decisions have to be made.
Well, stay in the never never, you know, that's the problems. Stay in the never never.
And this one nation light label, it's one nation is working, okling is anything to go by. It is no longer an insult to say one nation light. So you know, maybe maybe have a think about that. Let's talk about the sports minister Anika Wells. She's now avoiding major events after you remember that controversy where she spent one hundred thousand dollars of your money on New York flights, a Paris troops, red Bow holidays, meals, concerts, events, limousine she
took her husband. But now she's not going anywhere prou She's skipped or major sporting of including the Ashes and the Australian Open, even though actually in her portfolio she's required to attend.
Me she's doing the right thing, holding.
Back well I understand, right, she doesn't want to be booed. Probably, let's face it, what I mean, it is pathetic that they're in that situation. I mean, she's indulged herself at the taxpayer's trough and she was caught red handed. No wonder she's embarrassed, but she should be at those events. She doesn't need to take a husband and half half the relatives around the Christmas table down to wherever she's going. She just needs to represent the taxpayer and be in
her portfolio. But she's negligent and not going. But you know, it's like people are going to be looking and seeing who she's going with, what she's spending, where, how many meals she's had.
It's a pr disaster. It is totally exactly she should have been sat I reckon.
Well exactly and now the US happen. I want to show you this shocking footage in Melbourne.
Have a look at this.
Two men were kicked out of a gentleman's club at the weekend. One then threw chair which was meant to hit a security guard. Instead he knocked out his own mate. We should have that vision coming up on the screen shortly. Look look, David, I think it was here we go. Here it is, so the security guards think it's hilarious and look here we go this is it knocks his.
Mate out that was actually meant for a security guard.
Now the guard thinks it's hilarious and I can see the humor almost the irony in this.
But what does it say about violence in Melbourne?
But this is more of the same.
I mean, if it's not drunken LUTs on the streets, Sudanese gangs, it's the criminal underworld. It's those that have been able to build up drug empires and take out their own level of justice.
And it scares me.
I mean, I'm scared about family and friends that go to Melbourne.
I'm scared about people that I know that live in Melbourne.
And the obvious question is what's next and who's next?
J just Cinder Allen should have some of those bins that take chairs now obviously the weapon of choice.
Oh yeah, forget Michi's go over, it's chairs, our chairs at the ultimate weapon, where it's just it is pro McSwain David Elliott.
Really great discussion.
Thank you to both of you for directors and the show.
I appreciate it.
Stay with us.
Coming up after the break, a Jewish woman injured in the Bondai massacre was given an Anglo name during her stay at a Sydney hospital.
I'll catch up with Deborah.
Bell from the Australian Zionist Healthcare Alliance. You won't want to miss what she has to say about what Jewish patients are going through.
That's next.
Well.
Thanks to terrific reporting by Andrew Clonel at Sky News. This week, it's been revealed a Jewish woman, Rosalie Schickberg, who was injured in the Bondai massacre, was taken to Liverpool Hospital in Sydney and told she was to have an Anglo name Karen Jones during her stay.
It was even printed on her medication. Now.
She was told that it was to keep the media away and to protect her privacy, but she says she doesn't believe it.
In my opinion, there was afraid of stuff, not the medium.
And can you blame her remember when two nurses at nearby Bankstown Hospital allegedly threatened to kill Jewish patients. Joining me now is co founder and president of Australian Zionist Healthcare Alliance.
Deborah Bell. Deborah, it's really good to have.
You on the show this evening. Thank you for joining me. What do you think has gone on here?
Thank you for having me. What appears to have happened here is that a decision was made to change a Jewish patient's name because her identity was perceived as a safety risk. And I accept that frontline staff were likely
acting under pressure and with protective intent. However, I would argue that the real issue here is systemic because after the alleged Bank Town's nurses incident, we still don't know what investigations, if any, the New South Wales government carried out to determine whether the problem was limited to just
those nurses or whether the problem is more widespread. And if Jewish identity is being treated as a risk factor in a public hospital, that requires full transparency and investigation by Minister around Park and that's unacceptable for Jewish Australians and for the wider Australian community.
Well absolutely, I mean they're not safe in hospitals, They're not safe in schools, not safe at Bondi Beach or beaches in general, you know, hospitals that are meant to be a place where people should feel most safe.
So I completely agree with your concerns.
It's interesting though, I was listening to the Health Minister Mark Butler on Sky News this morning.
He was asked about it, and this was his response.
Okay, that's why late last year I asked all health ministers to issue a directive to the professional regulator of doctors and nurses and other health professionals really to lift their game in overseeing the healthcare system and making sure that Jewish Australians felt that they could get safe, high quality healthcare without any sense of discrimination.
In the system.
Do you agree with that.
Have hospitals lifted their game when it comes to the safety of Jewish patients?
If they have, it's clearly not enough. He talks about a directive being issued to AARPRA, who's the regulatory body. We haven't seen this play out in practice. Jewish doctors continue to be on the receiving end of vexatious complaints and Jewish staff and patients are telling us that they feel anxious and vulnerable after Bankstown or the alleged incident. There should have been a system wide review, not just
action against the individuals. And without clear protocols, strong leadership and zero tolerance for anti Semitism and anti Zionism, which is just the latest iteration of this ancient hatred, the problem's not going to be solved. The question needs to be asked if this patient was perceived to be under threat. Where was that threat coming from? And they're saying it was due to media, But they speakes the question that why were the names of the other patients in the
hospitals and other areas of Sydney. Why weren't their names change? Surely they were facing the same threat if it was external from media, and if they're not, then where was this threat coming from?
Well, it's a very good question, and I'll look. I was a former reporter myself. I can tell you as a reporter it's very very easy to find out where patients are staying. So this whole argument of art was to keep patients safe from the media. I don't buy it. I think it's an absolute load of nonsense. And I can say that with absolute certainty given my own background.
Before we let you go. What are Jewish patients telling you right now?
They're telling us they feel vulnerable, They're fearful. I'm seeing it in my day to day practice. Even when patients are coming and they're seeing Jewish doctors and being treated by Jewish doctors such as myself, I'm seeing patients who are obviously to me, either with Jewish names or Israeli patients with Israeli names and Israeli accents, and when you look at their notes, they've concealed their identity. They're not wearing religious symbols in the hospital, they're not declaring their
religion on their files. People are telling us that they're scared to declare their religion and this is clearly unacceptable. Hospitals need to be a safe, a political space for all patients. You know, the last thing you need is when you're sick and you're vulnerable, is to be worrying about whether you're going to be treated differently or mistreated because of who you are.
Absolutely, as I said, I mean, it's extraordinary the place, yet that's meant to keep you safe, Jewish patients are fearing for their own lives. Debra Bell, it's great to catch up with you. We'll have you on again. Thanks again, Thanks for having me. Denika coming up after the break, Jim Chalmers told us he'd slay the inflation dragon, yet
an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed. On Tuesday, economists Leaf Van Nonslin will tell us what it means for your hip pocket when the federal budget is handed down. Plus Live to London as it's revealed. Andrew mount Batten Windsor invited Jeffrey Epstein to Buckingham Palace as new photos are released. GB News host Emily Kaba is next.
Welcome back.
Well, it looks like the interest rate hike is all but guaranteed. On Tuesday, after inflation rose to three point eight percent in the last twelve months to December, stronger than expected, while the consumer price index also rose to three point four percent in November. But your recall, of course, on multiple times Jim Chalmers maintains that.
He slayed the inflation dragon. What a load of nonsense.
I'm now joined by Macro Business Chief economist Leith van Nonslin. Leif, nice to see you, Thanks for joining me. What do you put this down to?
Yeah, look, look that there's the main fact is actually excessive government spending. So one of the reasons why Australia's inflation is so high is because public demand, which is basically government spending, is at a near record high share
of GDP. It's actually the highest in Australi's history outside of the pandemic, and most of the economic growth and job growth over the past three years has been driven by governments, so that the fact of the matter is we've got governments both state and federal, must add the running expansory budgets into an economy that's experiencing severe supply constraints and as a result, that's helping to drive up inflation.
It's pretty simple.
Well, what's this now mean for the federal budget.
It's already blown out by whopping fifty seven billion dollars and it's been filled, as you just said, there by excessive spending, though the treasurer he won't admit to it.
This is what he said earlier in the week.
The forecasts are broadly in line with what we saw in the twenty twenty five pre election outlook, to the extent that there is a small deterioration that is largely explained by receipts, not by spending.
Well, I mean, if the budget is in worse position than initially thought, what's that going to mean for the hip pocket.
Yeah, look, it's obviously not great. So that's a fifty seven billion dollar deterioration. Now, now that was calculated by Shadow treasure Teed O'Brien. So you said on Facebook you think, oh, that's a bias assessment, but actually budget expert Chris interested and verified those figures, and he believes that two thirds of the blowout is due to highest.
Spending by the government.
And again, this is highest spending into an economy that's already overheating or is suffering from supply constraints, and that's actually pushing up inflation. And this wasn't disclosed in the pre legend pre election fiscal outlook because it was most of this spending comes after the forward estimates period, so they managed to sort of kick the can down the road and.
Hide it from public view. But it has come out now.
And the fact of the matter is governments need to help the RBA out because the RBA has got one blunt tool, which is interest rates to try and manage inflation, unemployment, etc. When really it is the federal and state governments who are through their excessive spending which are actually driving up inflation, and they need to be held account accountable for this, not the Reserve Bank. The reserve banks simply got one
tool and it's doing its job. But our governments need to do their job and help them out.
Absolutely pulled the weight because again it's every day Aussies who were continuing to suffer.
I've got to ask you about the public service.
I was flawed to find out reading one of your articles that has ballooned to twenty four percent. That's more than two hundred and thirteen thousand staff since Labor was elected. I find this extraordinary leaf because you recall late last year Labour said, oh, we're going to go on this austerity drive. You know, hundreds, if not thousands of jobs in the public service have to go.
This was a very Doge style policy.
Literbool party took it to the last election, of course, but then Labour came out and said no, no, actually, no cuts.
To the public service.
And now look at this, I mean, how can they justify figures like this?
Yeah, And I'd also argue that with the rise in the public servants both at the state and federal level, so to be fair, the state governments have also had a balloon in public servants. But this twenty four percent increase is obviously one of the contributors to this inflation problem we've got. And I'd argue that we're actually getting worse outcomes in police across the board with these acceleration
in public service servants. So the Independent Parliamentary Budget offers their costings actually suggest that government spending is going to rise by twelve billion over the next four years if the public servant numbers the federal level are kept the current level of two hundred and thirteen thousand. That's because the federal labor has agreed to eleven point two percent
pay rises over three years. So if they don't cut the numbers, we're going to have another twelve billion dollar deterioration in the budget based.
On these numbers.
It's just not sustainable and we need we basically need our governments to get out of the way of the private sector because they are crowding them out with this spending.
Yeah, well clearly, and you know they do need to make some cuts. As I said, the Libs took it to the election and it was scared by labor. No, no, that's a very US style. Well, I mean the proofs in the putting, isn't it leak ban Onslom. We've got to leave it there. Good to have you on, Thanks so much for joining me, really appreciate it. Well, let's go over to the UK now, because things are going from bad to worse for the man formerly known as
Prince Andrew. The US Department has released more of the Epstein files, with one showing alleged emails between Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and the pedophile talking about a quote beautiful girl. And then there are these disturbing photos which appear to show Andrew Mountbatten Windsor on all fours leaning over a female. Joining us now from London is gb News host Emily Carver. Emily, welcome back to the program. Thank you so much for your time.
It's really great to see you.
Look, I mean, I think those photos are extremely disturbing, but also the fact that Andrew invited Jeffrey Epstein to Buckingham Palace that the royal family must be mortified.
I know.
It's absolutely a shocking yet another string of damaging revelations for the royal family from these Epstein files. It's not just Andrew notes Sir Richard Branson, it's leeber Lord Mandelsson, who is unbelievably our ambassador to the United States thanks to Kirs Starmer. But yes, the world has now seen these photographs of Andrew mount button Windsor, no longer Prince of Call, on all fours, looming over an unidentified woman. Now, there is no nudity involved by the looks of things.
But what on earth was a member of our royal family doing posing for ridiculous photos with what looks like a young woman playing dead on the floor. We know that Andrew, as you say, invited this pedophile to an intimate dinner at Buckingham Palace only a month, only a month after Epstein was released from house arrest after he'd spent time in prison for his convictions. As you say, also a beautiful twenty six year old Russian woman. This
was two years after Epstein was convicted. So Andrew at the time, when he's been called out on this, says, oh, no, we weren't in communication. Weren't in communication. They were in very regular communication and very friendly a communication by the sounds of this, Because none of this seems to bother Andrew himself, the arrogant man that we all know. He was seen out riding yesterday, photographed laughing and smiling as
if nothing was going on. He's still not moved out of his thirty room Royal Volie on the Windsor estate because his new home is being renovated, so he couldn't possibly find somewhere else to live. But I'm sure King Charles is at least happy. He must feel at least vindicated that he did strip Andrew of all his royal titles. But perhaps it should have come a little sooner.
Yeah, look, it's extraordinary.
And I will point out that Branson denies any involvement and has said that Epstein's actions are a borrent. But I mean those photos good, good graf. Anyway, I'm sure more to come on this out. Look, let's talk about the UK Prime Minister, Kiir Starmer. He's come up with what I would call a very novel way to stop migrants from crossing the Channel Emily. He's gone and asked China for help, and as part of the deal between kios Stamer and Shujingping, the two countries will share intelligence.
Can you believe it? A great idea sharing intelligence with China.
I mean, it's absolutely remarkable. You couldn't make it up. This man has absolutely no idea what he's doing. I'm talking about the Prime minister, of course. Apparently this is his great idea to stop a llegal migration. So ra than police our own borders, which we've been begging him to do, you'd think was rather a matter of national securities. Actually asking the Chinese, a hostile state who spy on us incessantly to help him out a bit. They must
be absolutely laughing at us at this point. Apparently China is now going to help prevent engines, which are predominantly made in China, from getting into the hands of criminals, of getting into the hands of people smugglers. But what are they seriously going to do? Tanika you know in scroll made in China, not for use in the English channel on the side. I mean, could this be more
of a gimmick if he tried. What we need to do in this country is leave the European Court of Human Rights so illegal migrants can be swiftly deported.
That's it.
Why on earth are we trusting China to help us out on this one?
Yeah?
Literally the worst possible country to help you out when it comes to intelligence.
It's just very bizarre. Look, let's talk.
About Sharon Osborne. I was interested to raid this this morning. She's tased that she might run for Birmingham City Council after learning that a convicted terrorists was standing for a saint share he'd but was found guilty of conspiring to attack the British consulate in Yemen. This is back in nineteen ninety nine and now apparently he wants to be a British councilor the irony. But Emily, look, let's forget
Sharon for a minute here. That the more serious issue in my view is that a convicted terrorist is even allowed to run in the first place.
How is that possible?
I mean, it's absolutely outrageous, absolutely outrageous. I can't actually believe it. And there are people in this country who are actually defending his right to run for election in this country. It's absolutely absurd. But the problem is if he is allowed to go ahead, he may well win. I mean, this is a seat that is particularly is about well, it is very much majority Muslim. They wouldn't possibly go for someone like Sharon Osborne. But I'd love
to see her run. Of course, she's got links to Birmingham. Her late husband of course from there, grew up there, did all his music from there. But this guy, he's now running on a Progaza ticket, of course. But it's just so depressing, isn't it. Britain twenty twenty six, We've got convicted Islamist terrorists trying to run for office and he'll probably get away with it and continue to do it and people will actually vote for him. I mean, it is a shocking state of affairs. It's got to
be stopped. And I hope it is.
A han And I've got to say I like Sharon. She always speaks her mind. She's never shies away from a debate. So if she's serious about this, I say good on her. Emily Carver, nice to see you again. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. Really appreciate it.
Thank you well.
Coming up after the break, my done of the week. He's got a cop at this time. Find out next.
Welcome back.
Now it is time for Danika's dud of the Week, which this week goes to Roger Waters of the band Pink Floyd for his latest public hallucination now Here.
He was a few weeks ago backing.
The oppressive Iranian regime, which has adopted a shoot to kill policy on protesters fighting for their freedoms.
Have a look.
So, just to be clear, you support the protesters and you support the regime, yes, of course, what look?
It really seems as though the rock and roll lifestyle, maybe of the seventies and eighties, has taken its toll on Roger because he now claims, oh, I misspoke.
He says, I misspoke. I apologize. I said I support the regime. What I support is the country of Iran. Do I like the Ayatola whatever his name is. No, I don't.
Oh, it's a simple and easy mistake to make right. He meant the country he met the country. Look, Roger has lost his marbles. Earth to Roger.
Anybody there.
Is there anybody in there? Roger I don't know.
I do, though, think it is fair to diagnose him as comfortably dumb.
So there you have it.
Roger Waters takes out week two. Well that is all from me tonight. Thank you so much for your company. I will be back at eight pm on Friday night for opinionated, but stay with us. Coming up right now is the McPherson Angle, hosted by my good friend James McPherson.
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