It’s Thursday, May 22, 2025, and we haven’t recorded in almost 6 months. We’re here today to change that! What have we been up to? We also wanted to talk about who’s not represented at Annual Conference session this week (including the 3 of us), and what we as a Church might do to change that. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
May 22, 2025•59 min
Hey friends, we have some new content for you! The three of us had a conversation about the state of the country we call home, and what the future looks like now that we're starting a second Presidential term with a certain man who uses a little too much spray tanner. How do we help one another? How do we support the folx the Oompa Lumpa has threatened to disenfranchise? We talk about those questions from a pastoral perspective. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with ot...
Jan 20, 2025•54 min
We're baaaaaaaack! It's been exactly 6 months since our last new episode...and a whole lot has been going on with us. Emily talks mental health, Jess talks physical health, Natalie talks disability and inclusion, and all of us talk about letting your heart and soul air out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Sep 11, 2024•47 min
Our very good, longtime friend, the Rev. Edris Hitchcock, pastor at the First Baptist Church of LeRoy, chats with Natalie and Jess about motherhood in the ministry, hope in the face of messiness, and a few memories from our old seminary friends Matt Turie, and the late, beloved Heather Janes. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Mar 11, 2024•52 min
In this episode Natalie, Jess, and Emily interview their friend and colleague, the Rev. Megan Stowe. A longtime servant of the Upper New York Conference, Megan moved over to New England and is now a DS in Massachusetts. Megan chats about resources that help clergy thrive, imposter syndrome, and being her brave self. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Feb 26, 2024•48 min
In this special episode, Natalie, Emily, and Jess interview Natalie's neighbor and colleague Genghis Khan, an imam, prison chaplain, and electrician at GE! Genghis dives deep into his immigration story from Guyana, his Muslim faith, bad stereotypes Christians have about our Muslim friends, and how anyone who achieves peace through submission to God is a Muslim! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliber...
Feb 12, 2024•1 hr 9 min
In this special interfaith episode Natalie, Emily, and Jess chat with Natalie's friend and colleague Paul Uppal, a fellow member of Schenectady Clergy Against Hate and a Sikh. We had an amazing conversation about Paul's immigration story, false ideas and stereotypes Christians have about Sikh's, the beauty of the Sikh scriptures, and about how all you have to do to see God is look in the mirror. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to b...
Jan 22, 2024•50 min
In this very special second season premiere, Natalie, Emily, and Jess are all together and interview the Rev. Adam Hamilton! That name will ring bells of recognition across the United Methodist connection, as Adam is the lead pastor of the Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, which is the largest Methodist congregation in the United States. Adam is also the author of a host of books, and has served several times as a delegate to General Conference. Adam chats with us about how his beli...
Jan 08, 2024•1 hr 5 min
Natalie and Jess reunite with the luminous Melissa Morral! CRCDS friends will remember Melissa as the first person they met on campus, as a steadfast presence amid the chaos of seminary life, and as a friend. Melissa chats with us about her upbringing among evangelicals, her exceptional calling, her time studying and working at CRCDS, and her ministry these days to the poor and to the refugee. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bon...
Nov 06, 2023•43 min
Content warning: This episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse and cancer, as well as a few more F-bombs than we normally drop. Natalie chats with Jo Schonewolf, host of the podcast "What the Hell Is a Pastor?" Natalie and Jo talk about being a Christian in the '90s, the damage of purity culture, beating cancer, the new frontier of Christian podcasting, moving on after a toxic experience, and the complicated relationship pastors have with saying 4 letter words. This is a public epi...
Oct 17, 2023•1 hr 3 min
We've got a really special one for you this week! In this episode Natalie interviews Dr. Amy-Jill Levine, a Yankee Jewish Feminist from the Buckle of the Bible Belt! AJ"s research focus and teaching specialty is New Testament studies, and she is an ever flowing fount of knowledge. Natalie and AJ talk about not bearing false witness against your neighbor, the false dichotomy of a Jew teaching New Testament, the cultural watering down of Jesus from fudge cheesecake to graham crackers and how to re...
Oct 09, 2023•1 hr 4 min
Natalie and Emily connect with their favorite Facebook friend that they've never actually met in person, Pastor Jacki Pillot. She's a licensed local pastor serving in the Greater New Jersey Conference, her loving husband is a pastor too, and she has three beautiful daughters. Upper New York friends may know Jacki's mom, the Rev. Carolyn Stow. We chat work and home life balance, new ways of reaching children and families, what to do when a grumpster complains, and the importance of love. This is ...
Sep 29, 2023•41 min
In this episode Jess and Natalie have an amazing conversation with the Rev. Sam Kinsman, Protestant Chaplain at the University of Rochester, and pastor of the flock that Natalie belonged to in college, the Protestant Chapel Community. We chat about coming out stories and the queerness of the Trinity, mental health struggles and honoring those we've lost, and the progressive future our young people are leading us into. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscri...
Sep 18, 2023•1 hr 26 min
We've got a good one this week! Natalie and Jess chat with the Rev. Michelle Bogue-Trost, senior pastor at Central UMC in Endicott, NY. We talk about life as a Dangerous Liberal Lady Preacher, culture shocks in the ministry, code-switching in the Church, and re-writing scripts. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Sep 11, 2023•56 min
We have another very special one for you, friends! Straight outta Twitter and Substack, our friend Josh, better known as JRR Jokien. Josh is all at once an adorkable nerd, a lover of the _Lord of the Rings_ series, and active in his own ministry. In this episode Jess and Natalie have all kinds of fun geeking out with Josh and talking about what Tolkien teaches us about our faith and our world. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bon...
Sep 04, 2023•1 hr 6 min
Oh boy do we have a special show for you today! In this episode Natalie and Jess are joined by Dr. John Tyson, our old United Methodist Studies professor from our CRCDS days, and author of _Born in Crisis and Shaped by Controversy_. We had an amazing conversation about the past, present, and future of the UMC! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Aug 28, 2023•55 min
Natalie and Jess interview our old mentor and beloved friend Ann Kemper, pastor at Covenant UMC in Rochester, NY, and member of the Upper New York Board of Ordained Ministry. First, we giggle about the "golden scissors" of editing a podcast, and then we talk theology with one of the greats. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Aug 21, 2023•48 min
Jess and Natalie chat with fellow UNYUMC clergy gal pal, the Rev. Beth Quick, who is working on a PhD at Drew University in the theology of creation care. Beth shares all the wonderful things music can do to deepen your connection to the Divine, the importance of learning new spiritual practices, the influence an atheist sibling can have on your faith life, and how climate change, white supremacy, patriarchy, and colonialism are all interconnected. This is a public episode. If you would like to ...
Aug 14, 2023•59 min
In this special interview, Natalie chats with her old mentor, the Rev. Heather Williams, senior pastor at the First UMC of Saratoga Springs. Heather has an abundance of wisdom about re-membering our pasts, standing up to bullies by refusing to keep their secrets, the power of story telling, and her thesis about theological mansplaining. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack....
Aug 07, 2023•37 min
Natalie and Jess chat with Wesley Caldwell, our friend who works at Camp Casowasco. Wesley shares his life and journey as a trans Christian, and we talk about how we can truly support our GLBTQIA beloveds. Wesley also shares his passion for the camp ministries, and what a nurturing time at camp teaches you about God's love. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Jun 26, 2023•48 min
In this special interview, Natalie chats with our beloved friend, the Rev. Richelle Goff, senior pastor at the Fairport United Methodist Church. Richelle shares her heart about being a young seminarian and a young woman minister in an institution that historically gives more power to old men, body shaming and mom shaming among clergywomen, and the power of being a good mentor. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visi...
Jun 19, 2023•1 hr
Friends, we're OVERJOYED to share this very special interview with Bishop Karen Oliveto! Serving the Mountain Sky Conference in the Western Jurisdiction, Bishop Karen is the UMC's first openly lesbian Bishop. We talk about the Pentecost moment of her election to the episcopacy, the dire need for a reformation in the UMC, the movement of the Holy Spirit in our work, and how important it is for the younger generations to lead the way. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this wit...
Jun 05, 2023•52 min
The Rev. Beckie Sweet, senior pastor of St. Paul's UMC in Ithaca, NY and beloved friend to many in the Upper New York Conference, joins us for an absolutely delightful discussion about how to be an LGBTQIA inclusive Church, how to empower women in the ministry, and the many spiritual lessons our children teach us. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
May 29, 2023•1 hr 14 min
Rev. Jeremy Smith, United Methodist pastor serving in the Pacific Northwest and author of the very awesome blog "Hacking Christianity", chats with us about this "interregnum" time in the UMC and the future of our denomination, his upbringing being molded by other Dangerous Liberal Lady Preachers, and expanding the accessibility and lifespan of the Church. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberallady...
May 22, 2023•1 hr 15 min
Natalie chats with her friend, the Rev. Lynn Carman Bodden, a fellow member of Schenectady Clergy Against Hate, about the blessings of interim ministry, Bowen family systems theory, the "500 year rummage sale", and pinch points in the ministry. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
May 15, 2023•1 hr 9 min
In this episode Natalie and Emily reunite with their old beloved mentor, the Rev. Margaret Scott! Margaret chats with us about faith symbols, being an oblate to a monastery, the two way traffic of Jacob's ladder, building spiritual depth, vulnerability, and the power of naming your experiences. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
May 08, 2023•1 hr 6 min
We were so blessed to spend n hour in the presence of the Rev. Dr. Paul W. Chilcote, United Methodist Elder, professor, and expert in Wesleyan history. Paul talks to us about monasticism in the 21st Century, the underbelly of Church life, how learning to cross cultural divides could change everything for the Church and world, the hymns of Charles Wesley, and the women pioneers in the Methodist family tree. You'll want to check this one out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss ...
May 01, 2023•51 min
The three of us interview our longtime friend Becky, a UMC Elder who took her ministry off the beaten path and into the business world. Becky chats with us about nontraditional ministries, callings, learning more about yourself after a crisis, and how "God doesn't make junk." This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Apr 24, 2023•1 hr 6 min
Emily and Natalie interview Natalie's neighbor, friend, and colleague, the Rev. Amaury Tañon Santos, director of the Schenectady Community Ministries. Amaury chats with us about systemic poverty, racism, and classism, breaking the binaries of us/ them, yes/ no, and serving/ served, what the Gospel of John teaches us about relationships, and how meaningful dialogue changes communities. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episod...
Apr 17, 2023•1 hr 6 min
Our friend West talks to us about the history of the Poor People's Campaign and the Labor-Religion Coalition, their leadership role in both, their upbringing as a PK, systemic poverty, white nationalism, and what faith communities can do to serve their neighbor. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com...
Apr 03, 2023•1 hr 5 min
