Episode 54: I'm A Slow Learner

no question about it. Very nice when thank you. You didn't have a good end of the year either, Larry. I got you losing nine and a half units on futures. You ended up minus. That's the beginning of the year, Dan, he made those futures best in the beginning of the year. What I thought was going to happen in the NFL didn't happen. Okay, But I've adjusted. I've adjusted mid season

on quite a role. But go ahead, okay. So you ended at minus twenty and a half units, Shay ended up at minus seventeen and a half units, and once again, Dylan ended up with pus in units. It feels good, damn Yeah, congratulations. Nobody thought that you could win this. No nobody, not even I know, um so Dylan regular season champ. Anything that you would like to point out with your victory lap that you get to take, Um, I mean we still got a road ahead of us. Dan,

it's now a playoff. Now we go back to zero. The scoreboard says zero. I like that. Yeah, I got the President's Cup, but we saw to win the Stanley. Yes, anything that you would like to say, um, no, I mean it was it was a hard fought battle, um all pretty much. Yeah, you're you're drinking a white claw and you're sitting in a room, I mean with a bunch of dudes. Yeah, how tough was this? But I did Uh. I would like to say my Jags make

the Eyoffs. One was probably that was that was a great future that that helped you, which actually is gonna kind of I kind of forgot. I took the Chargers to win the Super Bowl, much like yourself. Yeah, I don't love that right now, Well you got no other choice, No, I don't so embrace it. By the way, least profitable quarterback against the spread in a single season over the last two decades, it Uh. Tom Brady's there. He was

four twelve and one against the spread. Mark Boulger two thousand and seven, it was too and ten against the spread, David Gerrard and oh eight was four and twelve, and Mitchell true Bisky three eleven and one against the spread. That I believe. But Tom Brady, well, speaking of Brady Monday night against your Cowboys, I don't. I don't like it one bit, and I'm scared to death. Yeah, we limped into the playoffs, of course, and Mike McCarthy team

limping into the playoffs, that makes sense. Jerry already said he ain't gonna Iron no matter what happened. So that's awful. Uh, Tom Brady's Tom Brady. I don't care what his ats record is. Is there a chance Cooper Rush is a

better quarterback than dak Preston, There's no chance. But as far as getting your money out of somebody, yeah, Cooper Rush is probably the better bet because making forty million dollars a year and then leading the league in interceptions after you miss what five games, that's hard to do.

That's had allowed to critique that dude. Like a lot of people, especially in Cowboy Nation, want to back up Dakota no matter what and say he's a good quarterback and he's got a bad Stephen Corps and also the crap and the old line is and what he used to be fifteen picks. Fifteen picks. That's it. That's it. And Dax also with like the like off the field endorsement stuff too. I think he made like a hundred

million dollars or something. He was on the list of the highest paid athletes in the world because commercial, No, you're you're a cowboy quarterback. You're always employable. So he's he's just raking it in. Okay, so we turn our attention. Dylan will start with you. Uh some futures. You lost out on Lamar Jackson throwing for over thirty five hundred yards. Uh, you said the Jets would have the fewest regular season wins. You had the Broncos winning the FC West. It's okay.

You have the Charges winning Super Bowl, Jags making the playoffs. Was a great call. Yeah, the Ravens over nine and a half regular season, had the Eagles under fourteen and a half wins, and you lost on the Eagles under thirteen and a half. That was the team mission. I thought that was fourteen and a half. That we got no because we did we or I repate it was no you did was the one we all jumped bad.

Larry's futures had the Bucks under eleven and a half, that's a winner, Dallas under ten lost that one, Bills over eleven and a half got that one, Saints over eight and a half, Colts over ten wins, and Eagles under thirteen and a half wins. That sounds right, Larry. Yeah, um, Picture Day Ray has been perfect. I have no I have no complaints. First, wow, round a plause. Picture Day Ray usually Fox things up every day and uh, you know, but Ray's doing doing a good job and that's nice. Larry,

Thank you. My my bad pick with those cults. Yeah, yeah, I believe that. I believe in Nicholts and I lost a lot of money on them in the beginning of the air And uh, I actually really you're reminded me. I lost someone here too. I did not hate that pick at the time, Larry is the only future bet was the Eagles under thirteen emotional bet. Okay, okay. Recapping college football, Dylan, Uh, every I think all you guys said, Georgia minus the points against TCU almost got spooked out

of that one. Also, I considered tea and then I stuck to my gun and then you lost the under and uh TCU plus seven first half Georgia hit there alone. Uh let's see bad. Larry had the Georgia bet right, and Shay had it as as well. So we turn our attention to wild Card weekend. All right, Dylan, you get to go. All right, Dan, I'm taking every game against the spread. So I'm starting with the Seahawks plus nine and a a half against the Niners, a double digit underdogs,

three and eleven against the spread in the playoffs. Since alright, great, I'm going Jags plus two against the Chargers. This is sort of where I'm fading myself with the Chargers pick. I think the Jags win this game. But the Jags, I don't know what happened back in Week three when they blew out the Chargers in l A. That's bad. That that's It's not quite up there with the Chiefs losing to the Colds, but it is up there where you go. Man, They did blow them out, and the

Jags were bad then too. They came together in the second half, but they sucked them all. Right, Bills, I think that's up to thirteen and a half raves. That sounds right that I thought the spread went up ten to right now, Okay, so you get the Bills minus thirteen. Deal. Yes, I this does give me pause. Obviously it's a big line, um, and the Bills have not necessarily been great at covering. But Skyler Thompson is Thompson, so you know, I'll lay the name. I would go with sky Thompson. That is,

that's a good quarterback. I would go now if I was a woman, I would go Skylar Thompson. But sky Sky as a guy sky because a tough name for a dude. Sky Skyler. I dude Skyler's over the years, like you gotta be good at football. I know more girl Dylans than guy Dylings. I think, uh, okay, you love the Giants all year long. Now that you got the Giants against the Vikings, so what are you doing. I've heard a lot of buzz of people all over the Giants in this game with the plus three. I

just I don't see it. I see the Vikings and the Vikings. I think his favorites are undefeated against the spread this year. Um, so I'm rolling with the first playoffs. Start for Danny duns for Danny dimes Um obviously going Ravens plus eight and a half against the Bengals. Okay, Ravens as a dog and over a touchdown spread, I'll lay or I'll roll with them, but again I'm not that confident. Um. And then shay for you Cowboys minus two and a half against the Bucks. That makes you

feel better, it makes you feel the Bucks suck. And I know it's Tom Brady, but like I just I think the Cowboys are a better team, even though Dac has kind of blown this whole year. I think Tom Brady's gonna get ahold of our secondary, all the backups back there, and it's gonna carve him up. I think it's gonna carr the up. Cowboys minus two and a half, you were laying, laying the points, yeah, And I mean

I have made this mistake so many times. Dan, I know you talked about it a lot, but betting against Brady in the postseason, but my slow learner, as we all said, so I'm gonna do it. You've got anything, You've got two giants under. Of course, that rolls over to the postseason two and it's forty eight and a half. It's the it's the highest point total of any of the games this weekend, which is surprising. Uh, you got anything else on here? Yeah? And I'm going Bill's Dolphins

under forty seven. It's in Buffalo, backup, quarterback starting. You're taking a minus. Well, I actually think there's a an inverse relationship between tighter spreads and it going up. Like I think if the spread is bigger, it's more likely to go under. And I'm basing that off my own intuition and absolutely nothing else with stats. Got that got you to this point? That has that has my own stupid and you don't do analytics, You're no no ruins the game? Uh, you're actually I have one more, one

more little thing. This is an exact Super Bowl bet. So I'm taking the Bills to beat the forty Niners plus fifteen hundred, so that Zacksonario has to happen. Okay for a unit one unit, so but one Okay, I just figured i'd spice it up, especially considering I'm not as high on the Chargers as I was preseason. Okay, Chay, it's your turn, since bad Larry finished last, that's right, quide down Larry. Uh, I got the fight in Herbert's minus two against the Jacks is gonna be a public dog.

Everybody wants the Jacks to win. I don't uh. Dallas Tampa Bay under forty five and a half Cowboys. I mean, as far as scoring goes, they got some trouble and the Bucks hate scoring. So under forty five and a half. Joe Burrow minus eight and a half against Tiler Thompson Jr. I would I would like to see over under on touchdowns for Joe Burrow because I think it's gonna go crazy. Al right, picture day, Ray and look that up. And then we got basketball, got the Trojans laying three and

a half against Colorado. Um on Colorado, Colorado? Where did that come from? His ass? Where all the rest of my bets? Usc uh minus three and a half against Colorado? Line went from like two and a half to three and a half. Money's on my side? Let's go? Okay, yeah, Ray, So Joe Joe Burrow over one and a half passing touchdowns minus two oh five. Whoa rude under his plus one fifty five. I'll take the overall later two two five. I'll take the under. Let's go. Let's value value bad

plus one fifty five bad. Larry is still awake. I'm still listening to you guys, just going back and forth. I'm starting to believe she's getting this guy the same way the Dylan got that Morocco broke up guy some inside in phone college basketball. I gotta go. You got a guy? Okay? Um, are you ready for my teasers? Oh? Okay? Is that? Wait? That's where we're starting. How many units four units on his first tease? Um plus a half? It's an over? No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on,

I got Niners pick them? Tough break, Larry, that's nothing, okay. I just want to let you know, just because you every week the game into a tie, you change. Yes, fine, okay, but I just want to let you know. Well, it was nine and a half when I put it in when I sent these in midnight last night. UM, three team teas before units, the forty Niners in a pick them, the Chargers over thirty seven and a half, and the

Bills were minus two and a half. Then I think they're minus three now I heard you guys there minus three. That's big. That's a big difference. And how many units four units there? Okay? Well that's all right, go bigger four units on the three team tease. Now I have a three unit two team tease. Bet. I have the Bangles my this to Bengals Bengals minus half, okay, and I have the Cowboys plus three and a half. There you go pretty good? Right Now? What now I have?

And now I have five one unit straight bets minus the nine. Well I guess minus ten? Yeah, yeah it was. I'm reading about my paper minus ten Chargers minus the two and a half. I got Chargers minus two Chargers minus two. Congrats you real steel Vikings minus the three against the Giants. Yeah, I think the bank the Giants. Nobody was better against the Spreads than the Giants this year. They were thirteen and four. Damn. Now have they ruled Lamar out yet or now? Because I am heading up

to Maine, so I won't know this stuff. I don't here we go with the may definitely play. I don't have internet, and I don't know if he's going to play. I would say right now, doubtful that he's going. It's unlikely. But he hasn't been ruled. He has no contract. He didn't have a contract, right he's not playing. No he don't want to even if he's healthy. Even if he's healthy, he's not playing. Don't you guys have way less faith

in Lamar than I. Here we go. By the way, the most profitable quarterback against this spread is Joe Burrow since just let you know, uh, what else do you have? Claire Banals minus State and a half and then the Cowboys minus the two and a half bold all one units. I'm not a Tom Brady guy, you know that, although I was an Aaron Rodgers guy, and I think I'm getting off that sinking ship. I can't believe that ship happened. I can't believe it. I can't believe the Lions game.

Son of a bit. Yeah, neither one of the excuse me, Aaron, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady can't throw the ball down the field. You see Aaron Rodgers when he tries to throw a four yard pass, it has to go fifteen yards in the air. And you tried throwing a football. He's learning in the last six years, don't throw long. He just throws a little six yard house. That's always gonna do all day. And that's what the NFL is tries to pick. I hope he tries to pick on

the Cowboys defensive back, so they're gonna pick him off. Well, he picked on the Carolina defensive backs with Mike Evans and he was able. Having By the way, the Cowboys last one a road playoff game Lord January nine three. That was Troy Aikman against Steve Young. I was like, yesterday, Yes, Marv. Two of the people in his room weren't born. That's your day. Ray and Dylan weren't born. I was negative to Okay, weren't even a thought in your daddy's head. Still,

I'm not that's the degenerate gamblay at their dad. It's as we on that. It's fucking golf season is in full swing. Oh I lost my two bets. I lost some jam and last week, so I'm coming back. JJ spawned tied fifth last week in Hawaii, and we're in Hawaii again and I'm sticking with some jay top five plus three hundred any additions, subtractions, corrections. I took the over for a unit for Burrow and t DS, but I took the under. All my all my bets are

one year. Say this thing. You're playing safe. I'm playing safe, but I put a lot on the sheet though, bad Larry's I mean this is aggressive for you. It's desperation, Dan, what's not desperation because we started over? So this is all zero. I'm the favorite right now here in one world. You're not the favorite, Larry. That's like being like the Giants are favorites to win the Super Bowl. Wait, what bad Larry is the giants of this group in this

in this postseason? Yeah, Larry's Danny Dimes. Wow, I think bad Larry Tyler Thomson. I think bad Larry. You know I would put him up there. I'm not writing him off. You know, bad Larry might be Joe Burrow. Wow, I'm gonna have Okay, okay, hold on, if I was going to attach quarterbacks to you guys in the playoffs, because I guess you would be mahomes Ian Dylan, come on, I'll take that. I was gonna say, Lamar Jackson because

I'd rather just sit out if I give you. If I get bad Larry, Tony Romo, if I get bad Larry, Joe Burrow, who who would I your Kirk cousins? Actually? Uh, Dylan, Like, I can't let you be mahomes In just because you're leading what about Josh Allen. Yeah, you guys have the best year either. That's a good point. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you Justin Herbert that young gun. Yeah, young guy potential and uh yeah, big arm, Yeah you got a big arm, great hair bat, Larry, are you okay

with Joe Burrow? I love Joe Barrow? Yeah, okay, although I actually like I like the Chargers and I like Herbert. In this playoff, I think, uh, I think they're gonna surprise some people. What does that mean, Larry? I have them in the over in my four unit teaser. Yeah, but but that's have them straight up. But that's what analysts do. They go, boy, that team they could surprise you. Well, no, ship, it's the playoffs. No, I'm surprised that gave Dylan the

Joe Burrows pick. I'm not talking about the football thing. I'm talking about Joe Barrows being Dylan. No, no, no, he kind of like Joe Burrows. No, I don't really like it Burrows. It's Burrow, and I gave Dylan Justin Herbert the charge your quarterback, like I'm talking about. I like that. I like that. You sound confused. You just said Joe Burrow and then you called him Joe Burrows and then you said you gave Dylan Joe Burrows. I was a little confused. Are you drinking not yet? Really

you should have said yes, you should have. Oh, here we go like him. He's doing with some lady in a cor driving with an open container. Yeah. Yeah, pumpkin regatta. Hammered to death. Yeah, you're you're doing the pumpkin regatta. The boys are here waiting for you though, Larry. Yeah, we're gonna do a pumpkin regott in the Housatonic River when you get here after we finished drink. Is that how we get Larry here? We're if we do a regatta, we're doing a regatto area. Yeah, you want to come

in for the pumpkin regatta. Dan, You don't know how close I was to be in there today, but you're not here. Yeah, what do you Two days ago I was gonna be there, but you're not. And then they're my wife and Casey got an invitation for dinner tonight, dealer. Yeah, she needs to come. They're both common. When I come, they're both common. Jesus Christ. Larry back to the hotel room thing again, Larry, why can't you come up on

your own and then they would join you up. I said, I would take the train up and they can drive up tomorrow, will just continue into one car to Maine. And they shot that idea. Dan. You know they want to spend that time with me. Danny, I do not believe that for a goddamn second. I'm just speaking the truth. Okay, all right, Uh, well, good luck, save travels at another pumpkin regatta or whatever. This is, No, this is not this is Uh, the son and daughter in lawa going

San Antonio, Texas or something for some conference. So we're just going to see the grandkids. Okay. It sounds like you're traversing a lot of popular drug smuggling roots in a pretty regular basis. Larry, the Northwest Corridor, just hammering that week after week. Larry's Larry doesn't do that again. Larry just drinks budwet and that's it. He doesn't do anything else. Well, I did not say he's doing it. But no, Larry, no walking there whatever that big mountain is.

I don't even know the name of the mountain up there anymore. I'm not climbing him. White Mountains, Appalachian trail and trail or whatever. Now I'm not doing that, Cata Hot And what the hell did you just say some big trail up there? Yeah? The podcast, Shay and Irving Podcast. Yeah, we had the d Gen of the Year reveal, very very tight tight voting, I mean thirty five point one seven to thirty five point six to SPF took it over Putin who was number two, Kanye number three, Kim

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butter Danny in the stadium. The reason why I say s h A E is because Ray every week spells your motherfucker a little flavor on that. It's it's s s h E. A clearly not Irish ray but but Picture Day Ray would always spell it that way. Yeah, yeah, that's not my my strong supero. Neither is math. Okay, that's it. Set round of applause Jill when he didn't, and we will talk to you next week and have a great weekend.