This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, hello everyone, this is not Dan Caplis. This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan. Dan is trying to connect to us. He's in Switzerland, of all places, celebrating
his thirtieth anniversary. Is that right? Ryan? This is correct. Wow, we need some advice on how to get there, Jason, I get on great, but that's a long time. You guys will make it to thirty. Come on, We've got barbecue to keep us together. Hey. You know, I can't think of a crazier time to be asked to help host this show than today. I literally kept changing my notes all day because the news was changing so quickly. And I just got back from the RNC,
the Republican National Convention. Mandy Connell was there with me. We had an incredible time. Going to be on at four point thirty three to talk to me about her experience. We're going to share some stories about what we saw and felled and lived while we were there. But boy is the news cranken right now. We've got Joe Biden who stepped down. We've got Kamala who is at her campaign headquarters right now in Delaware. Apparently Biden just called
in to give a pep talk. There's all kinds of rumors going on on Twitter right now. Twitter's like the wild wild West at this moment, so you kind of have to verify and wait to let things play out a little bit. But he did call into headquarters, gave him a pep talk. Everyone who tweeted about it that was there said he sounded very very ill. So lots going on on that front. We've got the assassination hearings today, which were a disaster. I think you just had Lauren Bobert on Congresswoman Lauren
Bobert to talk about that. And then we've got to talk about what does this look like going forward, How does Donald Trump change up his campaign? How do we as Republican campaign. We think we know who the candidate is, but there's a couple people that haven't weighed in yet, specifically a previous President Obama. He's saying he'd prefer an open convention. I don't think Schumer has weighed in yet or Jeffrey's but Pelosi did endorse Kamala today, so she's
got a lot of heavyweight behind her. But it's not a done deal yet. We've got to get through the Democrat National Convention. So I've been calling some of my Democrat friends. I have a few, asking you if they'd come on and talk about how they feel about what's going on. I haven't gotten any takers yet, but if I do, or if there's any Democrats that want to call in and give us some insights, that would be great as well. And Ryan, it looks like we may have Dan on the
line. Is that great? He's a former Democrat, so that yes, sure, Hi, Dan, welcome to your show. Heidi, Well, thank you. It's great to be there. Yeah, and thank you so much. I know how busy you are, but thank you for agreeing to, you know, do the show this week for a few days. And at the time we set that up, he did not realize that Biden would
choose Sunday to drop out. If he did, but tell me something, I mean, there's so much to talk about, obviously, but if I'm reading this correctly, his letter wasn't on White House stationary, it appeared to be on personal stationary and reportedly has a digital signature, with no contemporaneous photographs released yet of him signing that, So that I think is one of the
odder things we've seen. But I'm dying to talk to you about this because you know, on my show, I've been telling our folks for a year and a half that Biden would not be the dem nominee, and obviously the elite that control the party have decided to just reject the will of the voters and pushed him out. And I have no doubt mind that they will do the exact same thing to Kamala if she is not performing over the next few
weeks. So it should be a remarkable time. But how ironic, right, I know, it's so obvious, tiny, but how ironic that the Democratic Party is proving to be the opposite of democratic and the party of selection not election. So it's really, I think one of the more bizarre moments we've seen in America. I agree, Dan, it's been surreal, and honestly, I'm not sure that Kamala is going to end up being the candidate either. I have a sneaking suspicion that Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton are lurking
in the background. Maybe some Gavin Newsom sprinkled in there. We'll see. But I think she's really got to I mean, she's got to do a darn good job over the next few weeks before the convention to hold this spot, because I agree they'll take her out if she's not doing well in her pulling right now. The pulling that's coming out today had to head Kamala versus Trump. She's pretty far behind, like five to six points behind from the
polls that I've been seeing. Yeah, And I think the big problem they have with Kamala Harris is that America knows her well enough for her to have very low approval ratings. So it's not like somebody totally fresh, right, like, oh man, I never heard this, Joshapiro, I like what I saw him do after the assassination attempt and that sort of thing. I mean, they know her well enough now to know there's something really off there.
But even worse for the Dems, they're just about to learn. They're just about to learn so much more about her, and most of it bad. And so I wouldn't be at all surprised if she ended up tanking on multiple fronts, including her public appearances, and if she doesn't, then Trump has a different challenge, right, but one I'm very confident he will overcome. I am too. I mean that convention was so well put together, and Trump and his family did an incredible job. All the speakers were fantastic.
Of course I have some favorites which we can talk about, but overall, it was just an incredible, once in a lifetime experience. You walked away thinking there is no way we will lose this election. Now, Republicans are good at messing things up, so I'm still very nervous about how things are going to go forward. But I do believe President Trump is very confident. He's very calm, he's very resolved. His family is, his team
is. Everyone seems to know what they're going to do and are prepared for different things to happen, as evidenced by the commercial that came out today going after Kamala. So I feel good, I feel confident, but I'm also scared to death that something's going to happen and flip everything on its head. Well. One of the mysteries to me, right now, Heidi is I mean, it's such a strange moment in American history right because we literally don't know if we have a president. I mean, I assume he's alive.
I'm not saying that, but we don't know if we have a president who's functioning at all. And I go back to why wasn't his letter saying he's withdrawing from the race on White House stationary and if it was digitally signed, why all that? So we don't know if he's functional. We don't know if he'll be at all functional in the future. But this I do know, Heidi, and that is that if Biden right now, is it all cogent, and if he's functional, and if he's going to actually stay in
office, I am certain to my core he wants Kamala to lose. He wants whoever the Democrat nominee is to lose. He wants to humiliate the people who ran him out of his re election bid. He wants to be the only person to beat Trump. So I think he's off to a great start with that, you know, by endorsing Kamala. But is there any doubt there how to him? And could anybody make a credible case that you're Biden would actually want the person who's going to take over for him now as nominee
to win. I mean that that's not the Joe Biden we've known over all these years. Well, and I would suggest his wife is even more venomous about the whole situation. It seems as if Jill has been in charge of things for a while, and what it's terrible thing to watch your husband stumble and just really look horrible in front of the whole world and not let him gracefully go hang out with his grandkids, spend time on the beach, whatever it is. But I really put a lot of the blame on her and
his family. Obviously, Hunter wants to get a pardon, and there's so much dysfunction in the rest of the family too. I think there's much more than meets the eye to this story. I think there's some serious conflict going on between the Obama's and the Biden's right now. From what I'm reading, that's an interesting situation as well. Yeah, and I know you've got to hit this hard break at twelve fifteen and Mandy Carnell coming up next, and
I'm interested in joining that conversation. But again, thank you again to Heidi Ganoll, who's selling in this week while Amy and I are off celebrating our thirtieth anniversary. I think we're eight hours ahead of Denver right now, so it's a little after midnight here. But these are truly historic times, so it'll be fun to do this show with you and interesting to get Nandy's take. Well, thanks, Dan, We're headed to a break, but this is the Dan Kapla Show. Dan is so honored to be here filling in
at least partnering with you on this show. It's going to be a lot of fun. And now back to The Dan Kapla Show podcast. One of my favorite movies The Sound of Music. Dan, it sounds like you're right in the action where all that was filmed. Are you singing about the hills being alive? Holy cow? I will be in the morning because at midnight Denver time, we're holding up to what they call the top of Europe, which is the highest mountain point. They say, at least I don't think
it's true, but they say in at least this part of Europe. But yeah, thirty years in the making, you know, kind of our dream. Thirtieth anniversary trip, and then somebody decides Biden's Biden's going to drop out of the race in the middle of that. But thank you, Heidi, thank you again for filling in and for allowing me to join you, because lord knows, there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, what are people talking about over in Europe? How are they taking all of this news?
Any insights there? If I could understand what they were saying, I tell you, But I don't understand the word anywhere saying except my wife. Oh well that's important, that's more important. But obviously, you know, it's the assassination attempting all that is dominating the headlines, much more so than Biden dropping out of the race. My guess is that it probably doesn't come as
a surprise to anybody who's just been looking at him for a while. I mean not to be that guy, but I've been turning our listeners for a year and a half that he's not going to be in this race. And in fact, Ryan got angry at me because about two months ago I banned any conversation that assumed he would be the nominee. But hey, looking forward to talking with Nandy. I know you guys hung out a bunch in the convention, and I love her stuff. We had a great time. I
got to go on her show for a few minutes with my dad. My dad was actually a delegate at the convention and I was an alternate, And then we brought a couple of guests, had a wonderful time, lots of amazing people from all over the country. Just such a wide, a diverse group of folks from all over America. And the thing that united everybody though, was we are not arguing at this point. We are rallying behind our
candidate. We are going to win this election this year. And it's the first time I've really seen Republicans all in to win, like just no argument. This is what we're doing. We're going to activate, We're going to get busy. We're going to do the work that needs to get done. No matter how close they say it is, no matter how far ahead they say Trump is. Everyone's ready to rock and roll. So what do you
think comes next here? Do you think Kamala Harris ends up being their actual nominee coming out of the convention if she falters over the next couple of weeks, which is my suspicion, and I think there's a good chance she will falter in the polls, that she'll falter in public appearances, at least those that aren't on a teleprompter. I think the powers would be in the Democratic Party and you could probably put Obama at the top of that right along with
the big money men and women. You know, they have made it clear that they will get rid of anybody they need to, regardless of how many people have voted for that person, if it threatens their hold on powers. So you know, from their standpoint, yeah, they probably think that this Kamala plays a smart one, right because at that point they avoid alienating the
folks who would want Kamala as their nominee. And then a couple of weeks into this issues tanking into polling, they've got their excuse to move her out. Well, what was shocking to me, and I guess it's not that surprising, but this shows the riff that's happening on the Democrat side with the power players is that Obama. President Obama has not endorsed her and actually said he would like an open convention, and also Schumer and Jeffries I don't believe
have endorsed her as well. Pelosi came out today endorsed, so that was a that was a big win for Kamala to stay in. But to your point, they're vicious they'll take her out. I have no doubt. I think it's going to be really telling who she picks for her vice president, and that person, I believe, Dan, you know, probably better than me, has to get approved by the Senate if Biden steps down, like if Biden goes out before his term is up, Is that correct? All
right? Yeah, I mean it would take congression, congressional approval. I'm not remembering right now the specifics of that butture one hundred percent correct, But if it just continues on course, and what a big if, right, because obviously he's not competent to be our commander in chief right now, he's an immediate national security threat every single minute due to the fact that he's not
functional. But now it's even worse when he's disappeared from the public stage and the weirdness of that note on personal stationary where he withdraw us from the race. Can you imagine that the you know, how evil the enemies of the US are, Can you imagine what they're thinking? But now the window they think they have well. And also he canceled his meeting with net Yahou tomorrow and Kamala won't meet with him either. It won't be won't I guess accommodate
him speaking in front of Congress tomorrow. So that was very telling. There's rumors going on around Twitter, which, like I said, is the wild West, but that Netna who's going to instead meet with Trump? But I do think they're trying to make it seem as if he's okay. He called in to Kamala Harris's campaign team meeting at headquarters in Delaware where she has just
I think she just got there an hour or two ago. But the folks that listened to that were listening in on him calling in said he sounds gravely ill, and then there were accusations that was even a recording, So who knows, but they're trying to, you know, put it out there that he's recovering. And his doctor put out a note that his COVID symptoms are almost done. So there's all kinds. It's a crazy stuff going on.
It's hard to know what to believe at this point. And guys, don't we need just like a proof of a life hostage photo with him holding a newspaper, even it's just a still shot. Dan, Yeah, it was something like that. And I know we have a lot of hot takes sound from today on that and listen, I know you guys are the same. I've never wished him anything, I know in terms of his health, their happiness. Just get out of that office. He's done so much harm.
He's in danger in America every day. But to your point, Id, right, if he hangs on and finishes his term, then you know, Kamala is an amanie. She chooses her VP convention, you know, confirms
and off they go. But boy, I think that's a big if between now and then in Obama, don't you guys think it's kind of a no lose for him, Because right now, if Kamala is strong enough and she's able to hang on, then he gives the final blessing and he's not just one of the pack, you know, he's OZ and he gets to sign off and give her that ultimate approval. And if she stumbles and it's clear that THEMS are going to lose with her, he's in the power position to
switch somebody in. Who do you think that'll be, Dan? Do you think it's Michelle, Well, if she wants it, you know, if she wants it, and that that's what I don't know, right. I've always thought the best hope of her staying out was her, in my mind, you know, revulsion at the thought of losing the Trump that that would be her legacy. And after Trump's incredible display of heroism and character following the assassination attempt, she and Brock have to be sitting there thinking that it's going
to be very, very hard to beat Trump, even for her. So what's your take on Hillary Clinton and her weighing? And obviously she came out with a full endorsement of Kamala, but she's got to be up to something. Oh heck, yes, right, I mean that's purely tactical. We all know everybody knows Hillary Clinton would virtually anything to get that nomination, and every one Moore Krack at the White House. I think that's a given, right. What I don't know is whether Obama. It's hard to imagine Obama
sanctioning that, and I think all roads lead through Obama. Well, Dan, I appreciate your input. You have a brain insight. This is Heidigan all I'm filling in for dan Kaplis, who's in Switzerland. We will be right back. You're listening to the Dankaplis Show podcast. I'm not certain at this time how the information from the people in the crowd was relayed to any
law enforcement personnel. Now you knew that everyone knew, the people there knew that there was a danger, They knew there was a threat to President Trump and it was allowed to happen. Was there a standdown order, miss Cheetle? Was there a conspiracy to kill President Trump? Absolutely not? Then how did this happen? And why are you still sitting here not turning in your letter of resignation? Last question, but please answer, and then I'll recognize
us pressly. Please answer the question. That is what we are investigating to determine. We're waiting for your letter. We're waiting for your letter of resignation, and you really need to consider doing that before you leave today. That was Marlee Marjorie Taylor Green obviously questioning the Secret Service director about whether there was
a stand down order. Now that there's no evidence at this point that there was any kind of standdown order, but there are obviously profound unanswered questions, and in my view, a stunning level of stonewalling at this point by the Biden administration. I would say the Secret Service, but listen, if this is the Biden administration's call, I don't think there's any doubt about that. When it comes to the men and women in law enforce, my view remains.
And if you think I'm wrong, let us know. My view remains that and let us know what evidence you have. But my view remains. Overall, men and women in law enforcement are heroes. You have a few bad apples, Certainly Secret Service qualify as being men and women in law enforcement and the vast majority heroes. And we saw some of that heroism on display
as people put their bodies between the bullets and President Trump. But obviously at this point the Biden administration is hiding and deceiving and stonewalling and raising profound questions about whether there was a deliberate effort to withhold from Trump adequate security. And so these hearings and did you hear this today? How do you know all kind enough to fill in on the show for a few days this week?
Amy and I had planned this thirtieth anniversary trip forever and so you know we're off in the middle of Europe right now, and Heidi kind enough to allow me to be on the show with her during these historic days. But Heidi, did you hear that testimony today from Cheadle that they don't have any audio recording of the communications that day, of the radio communications that day, and listen, I'd love to hear from some of our Secret Service listeners as to
whether it's standard protocol to have recordings of the radio comms. But I've got to tell you it's standard protocol and lots of other law enforcement scenarios, so it's hard to imagine it would not be for the Secret Service protecting a leading candidate for president. How do you not have those recordings? That was one of many, many shocking statements today she made. She wouldn't say how many casings there were. She wouldn't say if there was an additional shooter or not,
because that's going around everywhere. She wouldn't say, she wouldn't say who was in charge of the the whole project or the effort to protect Donald Trump. She basically didn't answer much of anything, which is typical of this administration. Yeah, under these circumstances, but hey, we're really privileged to have the great Mandy Connell with us, who just does a phenomenal job on our
sister station eight fifty k away. I'd say out of Denver, but it's really out of just about everywhere, and did a fantastic, fantastic job at the convention last week. Mandy, We've been anxious to get your take. Thanks for being on the Dan Kaplas show. Well, thanks for having me, Dan. It's good to see Heidi here. We got to catch up a little bit last week as she and her delegate Dad Harvey were there at the RNC. Dan, have you ever had the chance to go to a
convention like this? I have not, and I'm so jealous of you guys and what I'd like to do. Mandy, since I'm, you know, eight hours ahead of you guys in the middle of god knows where right now is turn it over to you and Heidi and I'll just listen because you guys had this great week together and I'll just be another listener now. But thanks for coming on. I appreciate the opportunity. I had never gone to a convention either, and had no idea what to expect, and came away with
a new appreciation for the process. Doesn't that sound stupid to say that you have a new appreciation for the process. But your dad was part of the process, Heidi. He got to do the roll call where Colorado threw their delegates behind Donald Trump. It's not just about pomp and circumstance. But oh the pomp and circumstance was fun. It was fun, But there's lots of procedural stuff that goes on behind the scenes. And even the week before he had to be on a lot of meetings. He was on a committee and
really engaged and involved in making decisions about the convention. It wasn't just top down, this is what's going to happen, and they pulled off an incredible week in Milwaukee. Everything was just top notch. The security was awesome. I felt safe the entire time, even though we had some lunatic Yeah, try and outside, but he never got in the zone as it was called. Everybody everything was ari are is it inside the zone or outside the zone?
Do I have to leave the zone? Can I get? But they did a great job, and the conventions are more than a raw raw party for all of the Republicans. What was interesting is how many people came in with interesting ideas. Because we're talking to delegates on outside, and though they were all enthusiastic Donald Trump supporters, you asked them about an issue, they had an idea of how to solve that problem. And that's what I wasn't expecting so much. I just thought it was going to be a bunch of
cheerleaders showing up to support Donald Trump. But these are thoughtful people who think about big ideas and they believe that Donald Trump is the guy that can move this country towards those big ideas. It was very refreshing, and I'm interested to see when we go to the DNC, because Koa is going to the DNC as well to do a compare and contrast. I thought it would be
almost like a funeral if Joe Biden was going to be the nominee. But now there's this new life in je did into the Democratic Party with presumed nominee Kamala Harris. That is going to make it a whole different thing, and I'm super excited about this. I'm interested to see just the tone and tenor of the people that are there, not necessarily just the politicians, but the delegates. So I want to hear from the delegates We're just going to bring
the Democratic National Convention to the listeners. I'm not going up there in an adversarial way. I'm going there to let people talk and then the listeners can make up their own minds about what they're going to do. And that's going to be fascinating, because how do you outdo what we just experienced for a week, especially because they have to be rewriting the whole script right now, that's right. I mean, they've got a new lead character, right They've
just thrown out their old leading man and brought in a leading woman. They've got to rewrite the whole script. And there's so much that goes into these conventions that I cannot even imagine the people behind the scenes that are scrambling to make those corrections and make this And we don't know for sure it's going to be Kamala Harris. I'd be shocked if it wasn't. I mean, Dan, really, do you do you see any other Democrat out there that could possibly step in? I do, and I say it for this reason,
Mandy. Obviously, we've just seen We've just seen the elected nominee of the party thrown overboard by the people in power. Because they thought he was going to lose and jeopardize their power. They wouldn't hesitate for a second. And in my humble opinion, to throw Kamala overboard if we see let's say two three weeks of bad polling overall, right, I mean, I bet you guys dinner right now. We see her in some of these polls spike ahead
of Trump temporarily, etc. I think that will be temporary. But my goodness, Mandy, I mean, you know as well or better than I do, as Heidi does. Also that there is so much out there on Kamala Harris that shows she is not up for this job. I cannot believe Americans in the end are going to feel she's up for this job. Her current approval ratings show that. So I wouldn't be surprised if she tanks over the next two or three weeks and they toss her. But then who comes
in? Do you go get Gavin? And the money thing is the big thing, Dan, I mean, there's two hundred and fifty something million dollars sitting in the Biden Harris war chest. They're trying to figure out how to get that money, and they're not even sure they can give it to Kamala Harris because she hasn't actually been nominated, So there's all these machinations behind the scenes. But you know as well as well as I do money talks BS walks, So it's the money that I think is going to make her the
candidates. Yeah, and Mandy, can you stay with us for another segment? I sure can, yeah, because really like to follow up for them. We're so fortunate to have Mandy Connell with us noon to three on eight to fifty KOA. She and Heidi were at the GOP convention together. Mandy's
heading back as well to do great coverage at the Democrat convention. And I want to dive into that money issue, but also tell you who on the Democrat side I would be exponentially more worried about as a Democrat nominee and VP than I am. Kamala Harris and fill in the blank. You're on the Dame Kaplas Show and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. Do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exists in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. You know what
also excites me what I'm among the many things I'm excited about. Electric school buses. I love electric school buses. I just love them for so many reasons, Maybe because I went to school on a school bus. Raise your hand if you went to school on a school bus. No, I'm sorry, America is not going to elect Kamala Harris president. I guess we could all come up. Mandy Connell's so kind to be with Heidi Ganal and I
this afternoon, Mandy noon to three e fifty k way. I guess, Mandy and Heidi, we could imagine a scenario where perhaps, and it's hard to envision, President Trump does or says something so crazy that opens the door to Kamala Harris. But just on merit, I mean, do you think I just fell out of a coconutry? Can either of you see, I mean, truly, in your heart of hearts, can you see America choosing Kamala Harris to be our commander in chief and everything else that goes with that
job. Absolutely not. But here's the thing I learned in my governor's race. The Democrat Party, they're magicians at branding people and kind of getting the masses to believe amazing things about these folks. That are lies. Like, think about the job they did in Colorado of making sure that everyone thought Jared Pulis was a libertarian and freedom loving but this little puppy dog sitting on his lap to the tune of thirty million dollars in ads. So I just it
still makes me ner. They are a machine and they have this figured out. I'm sure they've gained out every situation and they're ready to go. I agree. You know, I'd love to say that America would be hip to the coconut tree. I thought that was gonna be the ven diagram cut, because who doesn't love ven diagrams? Stan, I mean, we all love ven diagrams. But ultimately, there are a lot of people in this country that despise Donald Trump. Okay, so they were never going to vote for
Trump in the first place. But then there's those people in the middle who were in play, but they didn't want to vote for Biden because he was so old, right, But maybe they don't love Donald Trump, so that squishy middle. She could conceivably win some of that squishy middle. But it's really going to come down to how excited each team is for their candidate. And I will tell you I mean, I realized delegates are like a microcosm
of supporters, right, They're the most passionate supporters. But these are people who are not content to go to the RNC. They they're knocking doors, they're making sure that people are going out to vote. So we've just seen a Democrat party that was stuck in a severe malaise because their candidate was horrible go to be energized in a way that frankly makes me nervous. I'm kind of with Heidi on that. It does make me nervous because of the level
of hatred for Donald Trump. Plus Dan, you and I know, he's not just running against Kamala Harris, he's running against the media. So to Heidie's point, the media is going to do everything in their power to make us forget about ven diagrams and coconut trees and what has come before and what has come after and all of the other ridiculous clap trap that she said and
put her up here. I don't know if you realize this, but after yesterday, I'm pretty sure she's the second coming of Christ based on the coverage that she is getting, you know, I mean, she's just it's so over the top right now, Well, I hear you, Mandy. And obviously it was always going to be tougher for Trump once Biden was thrown overboard, because Biden was a layup at this point. I mean, it was like running against I hate to say it, but politically a dead man.
It was a layup. It was always going to be tougher. But I'll tell you what, I'd be a lot more worried if it was Michelle Obama, exponentially more worried. I'd be a lot more worried if it was Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Witmer covering two swing states, obviously in Michigan Pennsylvania. I'd be a lot more worried about that than I would be Kamala Harris. And I think they'd all be terrible presidents and vice presidents. But in the end, I think it's going to be so clear to people that she is she
doesn't have the substance, she doesn't have the gravitas. And this is where I think enough people, and it's subjective, right, but enough people are going to see President Trump much differently after the character he showed and the leadership he showed during the assassination attempt. I just don't think a Kamala Harris is going to be able to trump that in ten or twelve weeks. I mean, when do we start voting. It's like Monday, right, exactly.
Well, I do agree with you that that Trump's handling. I would say the last three weeks, right until twenty three to twenty four minutes into his speech at the convention, Trump showed a level of discipline since the debate, even during the debate that we have not seen from him. Now. He decided to go off script at the convention and I frankly fell asleep during that speech. But if he can remain disciplined, this race is his to lose. I still believe that. However, I think it's not going to be
a landslide. I think it's still going to be a squeaker, and I think that it's going to be it's going to be an interesting, you know, three and a half months to get us through this, and certainly an interesting DNC, which we'll have full coverage of on KOA as well as we jet off to Chicago. So I'm very excited about that. Helly Andy, can you feel every oh, go ahead? Sorry, Heidi, No, you can kill everybody in Mandy on how to follow you and where to follow
you. You can always follow at Koa, Colorado on all of thiscial media platforms. My producer Anthony does the most incredible social media content. And I want to make one comment before we go, because I've got to leave here in a second as well. Dan, the Michelle Obama thing is intriguing and scary. Okay, intriguing for Democrats, scary for Republicans. But what is
her motivation? That's what I want to know, because we both know that Michelle and Barack Obama are still pulling the levers of power behind the scenes with no accountability. So why would she want to put herself up there as the face when they can be the backbone and not have to take any of the
crap. Well, and maybe she won't want to, and maybe she'll be afraid of losing to Trump, but I would think anybody, if you at the chance, all you have to say one word yes, and there's at least a fifty percent chance you're going to be the most powerful person in the world, it might be hard to resist that. Maybe, but you know she'll take that call on Oprah's yacht. Remember that. Okay, Hey Mandy, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much. Dan
Anne, Heidi you're from Thanks many day. Connor, one of the very best. Hide canal back with me after the break on the Dan Kaplis Show.