This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every single
day on your favorite podcast platform. It's a dying art where people from opposing parties are willing to get together in person, have a debate, answer the tough questions and more importantly, the follow up questions, even from their opponent, because there just aren't that many people out there anymore, you know, who have that kind of conviction and that kind of confidence in their own abilities. So all the credit in the world to Tricia Calvareci, who's here today,
Democrat candidate for Congress and CD four. Welcome Tricia and Doug Greg Lopez, Greg and everybody who listens to the show familiar with Greg very accomplished on the conservative side, and he's the nominee from the GOP for this special election. I won't suck up debate time by getting into the special election versus general election stuff. Stakes are high. You know, whoever wins this, yeah,
that person's going to be sitting in a very closely divided Congress. So again, thank you to both and to be here well, thank you.
And we left it to Tricia to make the choice on who would go first, because again, I have to tell you how much I admire you coming into this format because obviously this is a conservative radio show, right, but you're not afraid to come in here and debate, and I just I know we're going to disagree on probably every major issue, right, but I respect the heck out of you for being willing to do that, and I think it says lots of good things about you. So so let's dive in.
Greg, you go first. The first question up for people, and we have a time clock that the candidates know about and will enforce gently. But I'm going to ask each of you to open with just a little bit about who you are, but why you would be a better representative for CD four
than your opponent, and then your opponent will reply to that. Okay, Well, listen, Dan, it's great to be here with you tonight, you know, and I want to start by really commending Tricia for stepping up to the plate, you know, and wanting to serve the fourth congressional district. You know, when you step up to the plate and run for office, you become a target. And so you know, a lot of us are familiar with that, and so I think it's it's good that she's doing
this. You know, we probably differ on a lot of policies, but I'm glad to hear that, you know, she's in agreement with me when I talk about, you know, people over politics, I think we share that same concern as it pertains to be in an office, you know, and we mentioned that on June twenty fifth. This is a special election, so the people of the CD four are going to be looking for someone that has knowledge, experience, and wisdom that truly understands the complexities and the challenges
of the district. And so I think I because I've been traveling the state for a number of years, I have connected with them. You know, I'm a small business owner, I'm a veteran. You know, I'm a husband, I'm a Christian. You know, I'm a father, and so all those things I think helped me become the best Congressman that we can have here for the next six months. And so that's why I'm running. You know, I think the district wants to see secured borders. They want an
economy that works for them, not against them. And so you know, I would just ask all the people in CD four to pay attention and vote for Greg Lopez. No, thank you, Greg, thank you so much, and I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you sincerely. This this is what it's about. So, like everyone said, my name is Tricia Calvaries and I'm from the district. I grew up here. I grew up in Sterling and in Douglas County in Highlands Ranch. Actually when it was a ranch,
there were wild horses. And I was most recently in Washington, d C. Working for a Trump appoint to help reshore American innovation, and then a family emergency brought me home. Both of my parents did have cancer and thankfully I could come home and provide end of life care and they did pass last fall, and thank you so much. But I'm so great, well I could be there. I'm stepping up to run because so many families like
mine are these Sandwich generations. They have so many care obligations and it's so difficult people understand. I'm from the district. My parents were both conservative, they were Republican, and before he passed my dad told me step up and you serve the community that raised you. So that's what I'm doing. Well, thank you for that. And I really and I'm sure listeners appreciate how professional you are toward each other. So this next question isn't meant to change
that. But why would you be better than your opponent for CD four, Greg, Well, like I said, look, I've lived in Colorado thirty six years. I've seen Colorado change. As you know, I ran for governor and I had a great opportunity to work out or be out in the Eastern Plains. I know the issues of water, I know the issues of what's going on with the agricultural industry, and more importantly, I can relate to them. You know, I don't come from money. I come from
humble beginnings. You know, my mom and dad grew up working in the fields. My dad had a six grade education, never really truly learn how to read and write, and my mom has a tenth grade education. But one of the things that they taught us boys is that you know what, you work hard, you surround yourself with good people. You know, you listen to your elders and learn from them, and you can achieve the American
dream. And right now the American dream is vanishing. You know you just heard some of the younger generation is really concerned about can we actually do this? And so I have the wisdom. I understand the complexities of legislation. I understand the complexities of the totality of the office, and I think that's what makes me a better candidate. And Tsia, why would you be better? Well, I'm actually part of that generation that, for the first time
in American history, has experienced the backside life from our parents. Right where the economy we were promised, where if you work hard, you can rise on your merit. That's not the reality right now. And I'm stepping up to ron and I am the best representative for this district. There's no four year university or college in all of CD four, So I'm fighting tooth and nail for pathways into the middle class that don't necessarily need a four year degree,
that are in the industries of the future. And I'm coming from the United States National Science Foundation. I understand what we're doing on AI, on quantum, on these emerging industries, and I want to bring those investments here to our district. I understand these technologies. I understand the stakes and again I'm from that generation. Well, let's roll off of that into the energy industry, obviously so important in Northern Colorado. Start with you this time,
Tritia. How do you view the energy industry in Northern Colorado and what legislation, if any, would you pursue that pertains to that. I love this question, Thank you so much for asking it. There is a very big difference between something like, let's say, a coal company and a coal community. I'm thrilled to say I'm endorsed by the United mind Workers of America because I understand that there does need to be a transition to renewable energy to clean
energy. Right it's going to be on the backs of working people and working communities. Pipelines can carry many things. They can carry natural gas, which absolutely is part of the draw down strategy. We need to make sure that our pipelines are clean, that they're preserved, and they do need to be replaced. There's lots of leaks happening all over. There was, i think
recently in Northern Colorado, a huge explosion on a farm. But where we need to make sure that there are workforce protections in place before we talk about replacing energy of any kind, but what we're looking at right now, we do need natural gas. It is part of the drawdown strategy. You know. I'm glad you asked a question because CD four is a very complex district, right twenty one counties. You got atoms, you got a rappa hole, you got a larmer, you know, and there's a lot of people
that you will never be understanding AI and that type of higher education. You know, there's no shame in working with your hands. There's no shame in, you know, being a labor and doing the right thing. And when it comes to energy. Look, I'm going to be there for six months, so I know how to manage expectations and I know how to manage, you know, the things that are coming. I for one, believe that
fossil fuels are important for our nation. If you look at how many products, by products come out of fossil fuels, you know, it's important for people to fully understand what that all means. You know. Alternative energy. I think it's something that we probably should look into, but we got to
be careful how quickly we rush to it. You know, one of the things that I see in Texas and other areas that these solar panels sometimes they don't generate the energy that people say they should, but most people who truly rely on fossil fuel, well, and thank you to both of you for being so concise and precise. It really helps. And I know we'll deep dive some of these issues as we move through this debate. When we come back, we'll start with do we have a crisis at the southern border and
what should be done about that? You're on the Dan Capitla Show and now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast. Yes strong, Ryan, I thought you were going to come back with Proud to be an American, right, because there's that feel to this debate. It's a throwback. It's two people very smart and confident in their positions who are willing to come in debate face
to face. Tricia Cavalese, who is the Democrat nominee for Congress in CD four, Greg Lopez, and this has to do with the special election coming up June twenty five. So we're now on segment two and the question we'll throw it out there and we'll start with the Trisha Tricia, what should be done with the Southern border. Do you consider it a crisis and if so, what should be done about the southern border. Thank you so much for
that question. And I do want to point out that there was a resolution in Congress that they voted on just the other day to call it a crisis. And Lauren Bobert, who's also running from the seat in the primary for the full term, she wasn't there to vote for it to call it a crisis. She also voted no on a bipartisan border bill because Donald Trump told her to. So I'm happy to work with anybody to actually secure our border. We need comprehensive immigration reform. I want to look at it from our
values as Americans, right. Immigrants are a key part of our economy. They work in our fields, they work in our meat packing plants. Part of my own care team that took care of my parents, those were migrants as well. We want pathways to citizenship for the people who are here and have contributed to our economy and to our society. And from a labor perspective, as long as there are people that you can exploit because of their documentation
status, it hurts every American worker. Now, the border is just part of it. Here's the other thing I'm really worried about. In terms of immigration. We're in a competition right now for STEM talent. It is urgent. We want this to be the place that STEM talent wants to be. We're talking about the world's best and brightest. And in fact, I was just talking to an Indian immigrant the other day about how difficult it is to
get those visas for highly skilled workers. We need to expedite that and we need to remain a place that is welcoming of the best and the brightest, and that this is where they want to be, correct, you know, Dan, it's there is a crisis. I mean, anybody that's watching the national news will agree there's a crisis, you know. And the people that are coming over right now, they're not these high educated individuals. There are pathways for those through work visas and so forth. You know. But what
I'm seeing and here's what I want to do. And here's again, this is a big dynamic contrast and difference is I'm looking to reintroduce the red card Guess work program. I don't know if you're familiar with that or not, but it was it was submitted to Congress back in two thousand and six. And this again deals with those individuals that want to come to America to work, but this is designed for them to be here legally. And you know, I don't have time to go in all the details, but it's how
do we solve problems, not just talking generalities about concepts. These are strong, precise issues. For example, the other thing that I'm looking at is we all know that the asylum seeker application process is broken. It's broken. You know, there used to be a time where people were crossing the border and they would run. Now they cross the border and wait to be apprehended.
Why because they're seeking asylum. And one of the things that is challenging at the border is can we really ascertain if they're actually being fearful from their own country And a lot of these people are jumping over countries. Right Mexico is not doing anything to their people, and so we've got to look at this. And so one of the things that I'm working with the people in Congress already because I'm not waiting for June twenty fifth. I want to make
sure that we're there and we're going to be impactful. One is to look at what it makes sense to do an eighteenth month moreitorium on the asylum seekers application process until we fix it. But there's no doubt that we are currently in a crisis in the border, and it's because people have lost sight of what a nation needs to have, and that is a border. Let's do it. A little follow up on this, because you guys know better than
I do. You're out there doing the hard work. This is one of the very big things people are talking about all the time, right So a Tricia starting with you, do you think that the border at this point should simply be closed? And if not, what should that process for admission look like? Absolutely, it needs to be orderly. We have a border and there needs to be a process. I agree that we should close the amnesty loophole. There needs to be more judges and they need to be able to
hear folks quicker. I think I looking at the root cause of this. Why are so many people from South America right now at the border. And I can't wait to you know, I'm looking forward to our next segment where we talk about Ukraine. Because Vladimir Putin has stopped exporting fertilizer, systematically starving the people of South and Central America. So one thing that we can look at. Right, this is a little bit broader than strictly at the border,
but let's solve the root cause of these problems. We are the most productive district, one of the most productive districts in the country, and we could be doing even more we have. So we have fabulous farmland. Let's grow more food and export it. Let's work with our allies in the South. We want we want strong economic development there and here. We want we want people to be able to find opportunities and decent jobs and dignity and an
ability to support their families wherever they are correct. Well, look, it's clear that the border is no longer a border. When you talk to the agents down there, they're already telling me, look, we're not even doing what we're supposed to be doing. We're processors now. We no longer are protecting the border. You know, when I was running for governor and talking to people, I would tell in America's always had a border, It's always
had a wall. It was an invisible wall. They used to respect that, you know, now they don't respect our invisible wall. And I think it's time that we put a barrier, a visible barrier to remind people that, look, there is a process by which we welcome you, but we need you to be Americans. We need you to follow the rule of law. It's not that we don't want you, we just want to make sure that we do it correctly and until we have some strong voices, not this
you know, political back and forth. Well it's election year, let's do it now. You know, this crisis has been going on for a while, and so it's interesting to me that as we get closer to an election cycle, all of a sudden, people are starting to say, well, we need to find a solution. I think it's important that we again put people over politics. Let's look at what's going on. Every state now is
a border state. You don't have to be in Texas. My family grew up in the Rio Grand Valley. I truly understand what's happening at the border. And a quick follow up for both of you, we have maybe a minute before the break, and then in the next segment we will in fact be talking about should the US fund Ukraine, Should the US support Israel taking RAFA? But real quick take on this from you? Inflation? What could be done through Congress to help relief people of what you both agree, I
think is a real crisis right now. Absolutely, price gouging is a big piece of it. Right looking at our the conglomerates at the very top, look at who's profiting off of it. Right, it's a it's a boon for shareholders, but it's it's hurting everyday Americans. It's hurting the middle class. So one price gouging. Two, undo the tax the tax Trump cuts
right or the very big the cuts. And then I would also say we need to be investing in local economies like these local regional innovation hubs of bringing it not because if you just throw money at it without creating the full ecosystem, it's going to collapse. So there's already investments coming online in quantum and in climate for the US, for Colorado specifically, quick take quik Yeah, I agree that. I'm so happy she said we shouldn't throw money at this
right because that's what's happening right now. The federal government is throwing money at all these so called issues because they believe money is going to solve them. Dan when our national debt it's over thirty four trillion dollars that we really can't afford. You know, you have to ask yourself, why is America a government spending so much money? And it's the money in the system that's causing a lot of this inflation. You know, is there a price scouging?
Who knows? You know, But do we really want the government to interfere with small business and the capitalism that we have. I don't think so. Well. Thank you, Greg, and hey, if you just joined us, thank you something rare live face to face to beate Tricia Cavalresi the Democrat versus Greg Lopez Republican special election CD four. When we come back, should the US fund Ukraine? Eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
Now, if you have questions that you want us to pose to these fine folks, Tech Sdan d An five seven seven three nine Ryan, anything you want to throw in before the break. I just like that we're moving along here in the times just about equals. So we're going to try to get that back on track for the third of four segments coming right up and again text in any questions you may have. And we've invited the candidates to Hey, there's some topic I'm not bringing up. They want to bring up
feel free to. I mean, we just appreciate the fact they're here and we have the chance to have this debate. And even if you're not in CD four, don't care about CD four, and I think you should because control of Congress could depend on it. These issues I think pertain to all of us. Everywhere you're on the Dan Kapler Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast credit to Tricia CALVALRISI now, Trician, I've had it
right every time except this one. They're right all the time, say Calvary, see Calvale, except the correct way to say your name is Calvary's correct. Well, if you're Cavaret said, you're going to with a hand. But they're both right, they're both But as a guy who's one hundred percent Irish, I probably care Calvary's the Calvary's for you. That's the right, excellent job should the DEM nominee in CD four and Greg Lopez the GOP nominee
and the special election. And so even if you don't care about CD four, and I think you should, again because control of Congress may depend on it. They're talking about the issues that mattered all of US no matter which district we are in. So we covered a lot of ground in the first segments. Let's now dive into should the US fund Ukraine? Greg your turn, please go first on that. You know, it's interesting the whole dynamics
about funding Ukraine and the war with Russia. And yet when you look at it, it seems like we're funding both wars, right because we're buying fuel from Russia and we're engaging with them and so forth. I'm here to tell you that I believe for now we need to have a stop on funding Ukraine. I think we need to reevaluate what is it really a crisis for US?
And again, because we're thirty four trillion dollars in debt and people believe that we America have of deep pockets that we should always be willing to just write checks and so forth. I'm concerned about that, you know. And so I think, you know what, when people talk about, well, what about fertilizer and so forth, Well, you know what, why can't we make that here in America? You know, why can't we provide that as an industry? We've done it before. I just don't see why we
can't do it again. But I really am concerned as to how much we're spending in these wars and for how long there is no end in sight. You know, I was reading today that Putin really doesn't have an outplan, you know, So what if he takes the capital of Ukraine? Does he draw a line? Does he change the government? I think he's in a real box and he doesn't know how to get out of it. As a person of Slavic origin mine of you know, I've got the Polish ancestry.
Putin must be stopped. I don't know what army, what NATO army in Europe can stop Putin. And we know that he's not going to stop in Ukraine. We know he'll go into poland it'll draw in a NATO conflict. And there is no army in Europe ready to fight and defend itself against Vladimir Putin. The Ukrainians have done an admirable job, and as our allies, we need to step up and give them all of give them the arms. That's good for our economy, right, we get to get rid of our
old stock and we get to build new things. We get to innovate in the process as well. So send it, Send it today. Absolutely stand by Ukraine, you know, to a head of that though, dan As I hear it say, well, it's good for our economy because we're going to rebuild our ammunition supply. Well, the only people that buy the ammunition supply is the government, and the government is going to take that money from
the taxpayers, you know. And again we are thirty four twillion dollars in debt, and so we have to be very careful on what decisions we're making with the next generation's money. And just give you an idea. Look today, thirty four point seven trillion dollars. If every citizen was to write a check, it would cost them one hundred and three thousand dollars to get rid of the debt. For the taxpayers, all the taxpayers, it would cost
two hundred and sixty seven thousand to take care of the debt. So we cannot ignore the debt that we have. It's a nation, because it could crush us in the future. Churchy, you honors absolutely. As part of that generation, I want to live in a world where democracy is the global world order. I think that if we don't step up and support Ukraine, I think that sounds a very strong message to China, and I certainly don't
want them to be emboldened for a land war in Taiwan. So as a as a country that values democratic principles, we must step up and defend our democratic allies, and that's what we have to do in Ukraine. Absolutely, let me extend this discussion now to Israel and Gazam. So at this point, should Israel be allowed to take Rafa? I mean, assuming they do so in the most humanitarian way possible, there still will be a lot of casualties by the new nature of this war that Hamas started. But should Israel
be allowed to take Rafa? Let's start with you, Trisha on the I want to pause and just say, you know, having lost my parents recently, just the thought of and this was during the you know, the taking of the hostages. Just the thought of to have a family member be held and to not be able to touch them or talk to them or know if they're okay. My heart breaks absolutely breaks for those families. At the same
time, seeing the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians in Gaza is incredibly disturbing. It's and I think Biba Natanya, who is a strong man, so no I do not think that we should support Biba in Rafa. What do you think the US policy should be at this point with regard to Israel and the warrant Gaza. I think we need to apply the lazy rule, apply the conditions that are already on the books, and make sure that they meet the standards.
Correct, man, Let's not forget who started this whole conflict. It wasn't Israel. Hamas was the one that attacked Israel. And you know when you talk about families and you talk about the hostages that they took, the people that they killed, you know, they invaded Israel at least attempted to, you know, and so we have to remember who started this crisis. And with what's going on right now in Palestine, Hamas is using the general
public as shields. You know, they used the hospitals, that was proven, and so they're basically going and trying to use innocent people to protect themselves. I think it's important for us to make sure or Israel to make sure that that type of mindset does not exist, because if we allow it to exist, then they're going to use all kinds of different tactics and more innocent people are going to be killed. But you know, Israel's always telling them
you know what we're coming. Please citizens, move out of the way, please go somewhere else. They give them a warning. Hey, guys, let me shift gears for a second. I note you hear the issue of the abortion issue a lot on the campaign. Should Roe v. Wade be codified or should the issue be left to the states. Who would like to start in that, I'll throw out a jump ball. I think it needs
to be codified. I think it absolutely should be codified. I think when there are blanket what we could potentially move towards a blanket ban, women are going to die. I would like to share a personal story. I mean, the year before I was born, my mom needed to have an a topic pregnancy removed. It saved her life and it made mine possible the next year. This was in rural Sterling. The thought of a national abortion ban
is terrifying to think of what is going to happen to women. What is already happening in the states where there are bands in rural America, there is a crisis of maternity care. So codify wrote and yes, let's expand access to reproductive care. Graig Well, I can tell you this. Look, my record is clear. You know, I wear these little feet because I
protect life. I'm a strong supporter of life. You know, when you look at what's going on with this whole issue, you have to ask yourself, are we really focusing on the right issue, Because the termination of any life by any means. I think we need to reevaluate our moral compass as a nation. And so you know, my little sister, you know, we all have examples. My little sister at the age of fifteen, got pregnant, you know, and the discussion happened within the family that maybe should
get it, she should get an abortion because she was too young. But the family finally realized, you know what, we need to come together. We need to come together as a family and raise this child and support her. And we did. There's so many nonprofits out there, there's so many organizations that are wanting to help young women that aren't sure if they want to have a child or not. You know, the foster care, the adoption, there's so many options. Look, it's not easy to make a decision,
but we as a we must have a moral compass. And I think that's really where I'm coming from. And when we come back. What we'll do is will yes please? Chris. I would just say that I was raised in a Catholic household. My family made it very clear if I was ever pregnant, we would take care of the child and that would be our decision. The point is that was our decision. So as kind as you seem, I don't want you to have anything to do with the decisions that
I and my family make, but our care provider. I'm not looking to make your decisions. I'm looking to help make decisions for those that can't speak for themselves, well for other people. Right. I want to leave it to the woman and to her family and her doctor, and I would like to give it to the child. And I really wish we didn't have a break here, but we too, so we'll come back. Well can take this. You're on the Dan Capla Show. And now back to the Dan
Kaplis Show podcast. A fantastic debate between Tricia Calvalry, she's the Democrat nominee for Congress in CD four, and Greg Lopez, the GOP nominee Greg in Greg's case for the special election, We've covered a lot of ground, a
lot of issues quickly. You can pick that up off the pod. But as you might guess from Ryan's choice of music there, when we went to break, we were talking about the life issue and whether Roe v. Wade should be codified, and Tricia very adamantly and enthusiastically says yes, and Greg just as powerfully says no. And then they discuss that issue before we get
into kind of an extended closing. Is there anything more either of you wanted to say on that issue, because I know you were going at it pretty good, and when we went to that hard break, well, you know, I'll just sad. Look here in Colorado, you know, the people have spoken, and I believe that the Tenth Amendment, which is a constitution I'm a strong supporter of the Constitution, gives states that states right, you
know, for them to choose. But it's something that we even here in Colorado, we need to reevaluate our moral compass anything you wanted to say, CHRISA anymore in that I get a little bit nervous when we're going to use other amendments from the Constitution to interpret what a woman can and not can't and can't do right, because we saw that with ivf Right, where we want to make sure that IVF remains legal, it remains accessible, and so again
I just want to emphasize the focus really should be on expanding access to care. And you know, doctors also they take out loans. It takes a lot to be a doctor. And just talking to you know, the friends I have and folks who've worked very hard for that degree, who they wanted to practice in rural and underserved areas and they're they're so terrified of a potential abortion ban where they're having to you know, reconsider their choices of service.
And I don't think that's fair for doctors well either. Yeah, and don't feel I mean, if anybody has anything to say, and you can say it in your closings as well. Obviously if I was part of this debate, I have some things to say. I'm just the traffic cop here, but appreciate both of you being here. So we've got got two minutes for each of you for wide open closings, So have at it. Trisha your column, whether you want to go first or last, sure thing, I'll
go first. So I just thank you so much also for having me. This was this was great. Thank you. Thank you Greg as well. We are facing tremendous challenges. And this is also the era of AI. And whichever country controlled this is Putin said this, whichever country controls AI, controls the future. And I want to make sure that the United States is
leading and that we lead with our values. And that's why with my experience at the National Science Foundation working for a Trump appointee, I'm going to do everything I can to bring investments into districts and plays that have been overlooked and left behind so that people, our next generation can get into stem careers and pathways to make sure that we can out compete against China, that we can lead the future, and that anybody who wants one can find an excellent job
and a path into the middle class that doesn't necessarily need a four year degree. And I also just want to make it easier for people to be able to take care of and spend time with their families. Well, thank you and thank you for thank you so much. Greg. You know Dan the city for special election, it's bigger than the district, It's bigger than Colorado. This is truly about defending our founding principles to protect the republic. We
don't want government to be interfering with our daily lives. You know, we don't want them to take us into a financial self destruction. And so I'm here to tell you that the issues that we face today are not Republican issues. They're not demark issues, they're not unaffiliated issues. These are people issues. And this is why I always put people over politics. We need to fully understand that when you sit in these positions, it's not about looking at
how the winds are blowing. It's about being a statesman. It's about having strong moral character, someone that can bring coalitions together, someone that can look into the future and make sure that CD four is truly being represented. I have the knowledge, I have the experience. I know how to lead with a steady hand. The people of CD four are looking for strong leadership. They want someone with a strong voice, someone that can actually represent them in
a manner by which they will feel their voices are being heard. And so I would just encourage everyone in CD four, you know, vote for Greg Lopez either before early or on the twenty fifth. But if you really want to know more about me, you know, go to my website Greg Lopez dot com. You'll find a lot more. And I say just just vote for Greg Little Well, thank you and thank you for being here. Tricia, what's your website. It's Trisia for Colorado dot Com. T Ri I
saj the number four Colorado dot com. And I have to tell you, I think you both just represented tremendously well for your respective parties and I think maybe some people feel better about politics, at least in the case of you two. So just a great example of willingness to go head to head and debate and the way you conducted it. And I'm sure and you've got two more coming up, so folks will get every opportunity to hear and see and
measure both of you. So very grateful for that. Thank you, and yes true and one of and if you go to Colorado for dot com. Lauren Bobert, if you're listening, I'm happy to schedule a debate with you anytime. Then hopefully we can do it on KHO. Well, I would love to do it right here, love to do it right here. And Congressoman Bobert, at least the Congressom Bobert. I no, does not duck anybody anywhere, anytime. So both of you are welcome, and you know
and obviously she's involved in Rome Prime. We don't know who's going to come out of that primary yet, but if she is the winner of it, we would love to host that. Looking forward to thank you, Thank you and Ryan, thank you for your great job. Kelly, you as well. Hey, Tomorrow, big day in the Trump trial. The Court's going to decide on some key jury instructions. I know it sounds boring, it won't be. It may have a lot to do with how that case ends
up. So we'll dive into that much more tomorrow. Thank you for your time today, Look forward tomorrow on The Dan Kapla Show.