Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado, Thirty years in the Rain, fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way, Chaps twelve o five on this pretty afternoon, Glad you're here. So much going on. We're talking about Dave Williams, chair of the GOP. Under his leadership, the GOP sending out this insidious, awful, toxic email that really defames not in a legal sense, but really the fames all Republicans in Colorado.
Because when the GOP sends out an email using the word hate to a referring to gay people, of course, what's the message going to be? GOP
Republicans hate gay people, and nothing could be further from the truth. I don't know about Dave Williams himself, who's behind this apparently, but because Dave won't come on the show to talk about it, but I can tell you a guy who used to be a Democrat and has now spoken to an awful lot of Republican groups over the years and everything else, Republicans do not hate gay people. Quite the opposite. Now, Republicans have their head on right
when it comes to public policy. No, gay rights and trans rights don't trump religious liberty. They don't trump free speech, they don't trump parents' rights. We've got to fight very, very hard to hold on to our religious liberty, hold on to free speech, hold on to parents' rights, and more when it comes to pushing back against this radical administration that's trying to impose its will when it comes to LGBTQ plus stuff. Right, So, on
a policy issue, Republicans have their heads on right now. I bet they are an awful lot of Democrats who agree with Republicans on that. But when it comes to the human piece, to basic love and respect, dignity,
etc. No, it is the exact opposite. Now, I can tell you all these different Republican groups, I've had the privilege to speak at all these different events everything else, I haven't picked up any animus whatsoever when it comes to gays, as the reality is that right everybody knows gay people, a lot of people have gay people in their family, a lot of people work with gay people. This and that that animis just isn't out there.
So why in the world if you were sitting there and you were on the left and you wanted to absolutely destroy whatever's left of the Colorado Republican Party, and you wanted to absolutely destroy the reputation of Colerad of Republicans in Colorado. You're sitting there on the left, you're evilly trying to plot that. And what do you do. You have a chance to talk to the party chair.
What do you do you say to the party chair? Hey, send out an email that says you hate gays, right, that's these So of course that's what the Colorado gop I put that in quotes because it doesn't represent Republicans in Colorado. That's what Dave Williams does, and it causes so much
harm. But it just as bad. The worst part of it is the way that it really does to fame and slime all Republicans in Colorado and those who are active in the party, who are overwhelmingly really great people doing hard work to try to benefit all of us, and it slimes them as some kind of gay haters, which is false. So that's the worst part of it, you know, and there are a lot of really bad parts of it. And the second worst part of it is it hands the political opponent
on these very important issues. Religious liberty is a big blanking deal, freedom of speech is a big blanken deal. Parental rights is a big blanken deal. These are issues we need to fight through the courts, fight through the political channels to win on But we win with law and logic and reason and love. We don't win with hate and have a party chair who wants to represent us as haters, the opposite of us. It should not be tolerated.
And we know Dave isn't going to resign that whoever does is central Committee, whatever needs to stand up and make a change. And the interest of the cause is that we all share and believe in. With these issues being so important, standing up to the left on all these issues, would you want to hand the political opponents these easy victories. It's a betrayal of the
causes we all believe in. Why so one guy can light his hair on fire and get a lot of attention that maybe helps his primary No, that's not who we are. And this is where real leaders like Barb Kirkmeyer and Nancy Palazzi with the JEFCO GOP, they know they're going to take a lot of abuse, they know they're going to take a lot of heat. Everybody can see how Dave tries to fire back on his opponents but they're willing to stand up for what's right here, and Republicans all over the state need to
do that. Whether they consider themselves grassroots or establishment or somewhere in between, it doesn't matter. He is undermining all of you. He is undermining everything you believe in those causes, and he's making you look really bad in the process, unless, of course, you do hate gays, then you're loving it right. But I haven't met a single Republican who does it. Certainly doesn't represent the party. Dennis and Parker, you're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Welcome, Greetings, greetings, very nice to take a little bit of your time, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge and eloquence that you command. And I'd like to just divert a little bit from what you're talking about. I know your topic is Dave Williams, but I think the Democrats are laughing all the way to the ballot box in being able to divert and
cast a negative sponge on the Republicans. What I've done, I was telling your screener that the past two elections, what I've done is I've taken my ballot, I've signed it with my left hand, not my right hand. Normal. Sure. I've also taken in the in the script on the top that gives you the instructions on how to vote and all that stuff. I put a code in there, which I've taken a picture of I've got from
my own records. And what is really funny is that my ballot was accepted and said, oh, thank you for voting, and blah blah blah. So I'm saying that the Jenna Griswold gold standard is far from gold standard. Dennis, let me interrup one second, only because we have people all fired up on this Dave Williams stuff, and I've got to stand on that topic. But you're telling me you intentionally made your signature, it was your signature,
but made it look like something else and it got accepted anyway. Did you then have to did you pursue that through any channels? I'm not saying you should have. I'm just curious. I would love to. I just don't know what the right you know to verify standing in that. Yeah? No, no, no, I'm fascinated by this. Dennis. Can you be this favorite? Can we talk off airon I'll get you back on air
so you can make whatever case you want to the people. But I just want to see if there's a way for us to use this experience to test the system and try to get to the bottom of just how high these verification standards are. So, Kelly, could you get Dennis's info and give him my cell also so we can talk off air. Yes, Mike, thank you, Mike and Lakewood, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Oh yeah, Hi, Dan. I don't agree with you what he says, like Christians are supposed to love everybody, and you know, I hate to stay in that center. But at the same time, he's America and his constitution, and he's had a right to say what he wants to say. And I've never heard of anybody it's been Republicans, you know, back up, somebody slimming gay people, the gay people, the gauge in as a gig governor, the Gate movement into the whole town thing, disrespect anybody
other than themselves. All they do is bass and make everybody look stupid, family, stupid mom, and stupid transaxals A great I mean, they're just literally destroying our society with their opinion and shoving in our face and then when someone wants to bask to them and then it's not back to what he did.
Everybody's all over this guy, Why don't you know? I mean, we could be all over the gays all day long with what they're doing as far as being stupid and being out of line all day long, and nobody's doing it. So I think the society is too much respect for gay people as a whole, and they want to worry about offending gay people. Now when the Republicans are going to look bad because one guy offended of the gay
people, I'm fine with it. It's a dirty stop. It's a dirty, sloppy war of words that we both use and today use it to a hundred times what we do. But the one time we do it, we want to hang and find the guy that that does it. Where's you know, where's our forgiveness? Where's their forgiveness? I don't hear them calling them and complain about him. You know, you can talk all day long about what someone wants to say and and Serry's the Republican? Are you leader?
Wherever he is? Literally? But I don't know. I give him a couple of days. Maybe he'll call you, and maybe you can talk to him, maybe you can go along there. And I wouldn't mind he what he has to say. I'd love to hear what he has to say.
I think the reason we haven't been able to get him on air is he can't defend what he's done, Mike, because if somebody really cares about these causes, because what you have is is first of all, and when you say gay people quote unquote, I think that's way too broad because if you're talking about the typical gay person, do you know gay people, Mike,
I'm sure you do. I have one, And so you probably have no problem with that person, right, No, not until it gets deep rooted into their what they really think, and bright until the conversation turns to politics. I get Thanksgiving dinner. You don't have any problem with that person, right, You don't sit around hating on that person. You've got concerns on
a policy level. You want to make sure that there's religious liberty, that they're free speech, that parental rights are protected, that the government is an indoctrinating kids into a particular sexuality. So you, like the rest of us, have all these serious concerns. And Mike and I can give you detail after detail. There are all sorts of serious people working on multiple levels every
single day to stand up to that far left agenda. They're working through the courts all the way up to the US Supreme Court, that they're working through politics. They're doing everything they can to win on these critical policy issues. And then you get just a wild eyed flamethrower like Dave who comes in and as party chairs, starts throwing the hate word around, and all he does is hand those political opponents a huge victory and undermine the Republicans who are actually
working to win on the policy issues. So it may be a short term sugar high for some to see Dave throw these bombs, but it undermines the cause. And it's all I'm so hateful. I'm sure that's not who you are, Mike, It's not who I am. It's not who Republicans are. You don't hate that family member. But Dave wants to throw on the hate words so he can get more attention. That's awful and extremely counterproductive, a gift to the opponents, flines and text on fire as they should be.
This is a seminole moment, right, I mean, the GOP in Colorado is a tough slog as we fight back against all the different forces aligned against us. But that doesn't mean we can just give up. And right now it's like a give up moment when you've got Dave Williams doing these crazy goofy things that undermine our causes and the party. And the question is whether enough folks in the party, the Central Committee will rise up to just say, hey, if we love you, and I like Dave, but you
cannot be our party chair. These causes are more important than you. You know, this state is more important than you. Eight y five for zero five eight two five five the number. So I want to get to those calls and text. Here's a text, Dan, If you spend as much time talking about the liberal screw ups as you do bashing our fellow conservatives,
we might actually win something. Texter, I wish you would call. The nice thing is these shows are all on tape, right, and so the percentage of time I spend bashing the left to criticizing the right is probably ninety nine to one. And that's deserved because I'm a truth teller, right Listen, above all, I don't care what Republicans think to me. A Democrats are un affiliateds. I care about what like that ultimate judge up there thinks of me. I try to be a truth teller and I come on here
every day and I turn that mic on. And if you think I'm wrong about something, as Prime says, I ain't hard to find, you can text me, you can call me, you can show me where I'm wrong. So if you think I'm unfairly criticizing Dave Williams, please tell me, but understand the and show me show everybody back it up or pack it up.
But the reason, the reason right now I'm speaking up is because if you care about conservative causes, if you care about conservative candidates winning, then you must do whatever you can do to try to assure that Dave Williams has removed his chair, because right now, if he was trying to undermine our candidates and our causes, how could he do it any more effectively than what he's been doing these last few weeks. So thank you for your text,
but please do call Dan. I miss KBB Dan. That's the best analysis I've ever heard you give. Dan. Thank you so much. I now know where you come from. Shame on you again. Please do call the show. I don't know whether you're coming from the left or the right on that or whatever. You can be sure the left doesn't want me saying these things. The left wants Dave Williams to be party chair for life. That Dave Williams right now is the biggest gift to the left in color it has
ever received. Tammy and Aurora, you're on the dan kaplas shall welcome. Dan. I obviously don't am not privy to these emails that you keep referring to, and I'm not sure you know how things rewarded except for the snippet that you gave us, which in which you said that Dave Williams said God
hates pride. So I went on to the Twitter feed for both Dave Williams Rep. And the Colorado GOP, and what I see him saying is that he is speaking out against this ideology, not against any individuals like you know you keep referencing the GAZE. I don't think that that's what he's doing.
And I agree with your previous caller that the Colorado GOP is supposed to be be about our freedoms and our liberties, and that includes free speech and one more thing us giving back to the left by our silence or oh that's okay, we'll get you next time has never gotten us one inch, not one So we haven't keep coming until they get everything they want. And you think this is the way to win, Timmy, you think this is the way
to win. I think he's speaking about the ideology, and I think it's time we all start speaking up about the way they that the left is ramming this down our throat. And I do it every day on air a great personal expense. But getting back to my question, do you think this is the way to win? It's not. And you're obviously a very smart, articulate person, and you cannot make the case that this is the way to
win. And guess what. The only way we get to stop the left from doing all these awful things that they're doing to children in Colorado and doing everybody in Colorado is to win. This is the way to lose. But have you seen that the June third email. It's not a tweet, it's an actual email sent by the Colorado g That's why I started out by saying, I haven't been proving to these specific emails fair enough because you have a
normal life. Yeah, let me reference that email Okay, first the email quote god hates pride, But then there's also, as I read it, and somebody correct me if I'm seeing it wrong, there's also a video linked where it says God hates flags, which appears to be a thinly veiled reference
to that awful Westboro church, God hates fags. And then, to relieve any doubt, it goes on to say, this email from the Colorado GOP, the month of June has arrived and once again the godless groomers in our society want to attack what is decent, holy and righteous so they can ultimately harm our children. So can you agree that thesage that's being received everywhere here and across the country is the Colorado GOP hates gays. I mean you use
that H word. That H word is nuclear and that's the message that everybody's receiving. No surprise. Well, I think you're narrowing it down a little too too small to say it's just about the gaze, because we all know that this movement, the LGBTQ movement, is not just about the gays. Well, right, I think that you know that's that's a mistake on our
part to narrow it down to one community. And by the way, did you know that there is a huge movement within the gay community right now to separate from the LGBTQ and Timmy, we want to be included in that. Yeah, and Timmy, we're losing the connection. I have to this break. But to your last point, this is critical. Your point about LGBTQ
movement is not necessarily about the gays. There's no question in my mind that the left is using this movement to try to undermine religious liberty more broadly, undermine parental rights more broadly, undermine First Amendment speech more broadly. And those are very very dangerous things, which makes what Dave's doing even worse because we need to win on those policy issues, which means we need to win elections, which means we need more people in the republic Party. Who do you
think wants to join the Republican Party now? After the GOP reed, Dave sends out an email like that and represents us to be the party of hating gays. Yeah, that's a way to win, right, No, it's a gift to our opponents. These issues are too important. We need to win. So this is the first time I've said this, and for those hotel workers, people that get tips, You're going to be very happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips
people making tips. Whether you like the post or not, that that's the Trump we know in love all the fresh ideas, the different stuff. Nobody saw that coming, I'm sure Button. Oh my goodness, can you imagine the reaction in his camp when they heard that. I mean, and we'll get back to talking about that. I think it's fascinating and it's going to help them tremendously. Hey, let's go to the VIP line and happy to
welcome Jeff Herd back to the show. He's running for Congress in CD three, which, as you probably know, is a district Lauren Bobert is representing currently, but now she's running in the CD four race. Jeff, welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show. Hey, Dan, great to be here. Well, thank you my friend. Since we last chatted, I think I saw a poll come out and the poll had you way ahead, but a whole bunch of people undecided. Was I reading that right? That's right.
It's an encouraging poll. It shows we've got strong fundamentals, but it also shows us a long ways to go, and we got to keep our foot on the gas. Yeah, and not too long right. June twenty five, fifteen days, two two weeks from tomorrow. Oh my lord, I bet you can't wait funch time. I bet you cannot plait. But so for those who weren't with us last time. And by the way, all of the candidates are welcome on this show, of course, tell us a little bit about yourself. Sure, So, I am a Cauroro native.
I grew up here on the Western Slope, family man, five kids, been married to my wife for it'll be nineteen years in about three weeks. I have spent my professional career helping rural Colorado, primarily rural electric cooperatives, and not a career politician, hardworking, authentic. And I'm the guy that's going to beat Adam Fish in the November election. Boy, and I think there are a lot of Democrats who believe you're going to beat him as
well. But Jeff, this primary, how many candidates are in the primary right now? There are six candidates in the primary as you're out there right now. Is it what we would expect right now? Immigration, inflation, et cetera. Is that topping the list of concerns, or is there some sleeper issue out there. Nope, that's it. They's securing the border is issue number one. So energy in dependence is something that's big here in southern
and western Colorado. And then protecting water, n egg, those are the core issues. That's what I hear about, and that's what I'm going to fight for and for those who are still and I gather from that poll and an awful lot of people who are familiar with the candidates prefer you. But obviously there are a bunch who aren't familiar with any of you yet. Beyond the obvious bio points, what is it about you? What is it about what you've done in your life, maybe beyond your children and your wife,
your proudest moment. Tell people something they haven't heard about you that shows them the real you. Well, I'm the guy that's hardest to keep your electricity bills low, and so if you care about keeping your the cost of electricity, the cost of energy low, I'm your guy. That's what I've spent my career doing, representing rural electric cooperatives up and down the Western Slope, trying to fight bad government regulations, that increase the cost of your electric bill
every month. That's kind of the core thing. So if you care about those things, if you care about low cost energy, low cost food, you know, saving at the grocery store, saving at the gas pump. That's what I've dedicated my career to professionally, and that's what I've been doing Washington, is help you save money and lower your cost of living. And if you're looking for somebody that's fought in his career doing that, and we'll
do that for you in Congress, Jeff Hurd is your guy? Is there something from your life, your personal life, just some moment in your life that you know shows the best of your character or might really sum you up for folks. You know, one thing I think people are surprised to hear about me is actually I did not have any plans to ever go into politics.
I was actually studying to be a priest, to believe it or not, And so that's about as far from politics as as yet I thought I was going to give it in. It just goes to show you never know where life is going to bring in, where God's going to bring in. I say that now as a dad of five kids, and so you know, I'm definitely far away from where I expected to be. But you know, God calls you to places that you don't always expect, and here I
am. See it's interesting because I was on track for the priesthood as well and was sure I was going to go back. What is it that changed that path for you? At first? I didn't know that, Dan, That's that's awesome, Okay, you and I have that in commons. I met my now wife at a yes at a conference, and next thing I knew I was on the path to getting married. So yeah, yeah, that's you never know what and those of you that are never aren't quite sure
what your path is in life. You never know what God is going to show you. So that's exactly what happened to me, and it sounds like to you too, Dan. Yeah, I know, very very true, and mine was a little bit different twist, but I knew it when it happened. I've just been fixated on that path, was sure that's where I was going, but then understood there was a different intent. Hey, what's your website? Website is Jeff Heard for Colorado. That's j E F F h U R D FO R Colorado dot Com. All right, Jeff,
hey, appreciate the time. Good luck out there. Thanks so much. Dan, great talking with you. Take care, We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. That is Jeff Hurt. Impressive cat from Everything I Can Tell hit five five for zero five A two five five text d A N five seven seven three nine the text blowing up as we talk about whether Dave Williams should be removed as party chair. I know the calls from some are for his resignation, but we all know Dave isn't going to resign. Dan
quit telling people they are wrong. Thanks. It would be a very short show, right, including myself when I'm I say it. But I think the whole point of this show is to tell the truth right, and then if I am wrong, people have every opportunity to point it out. Think about that. Unlike all these politicians, people in office, everything else. Shannon, you know it. Shannon Scott would have the best show on Eric, except he doesn't want to be in front of the mic. But you've
been doing this how many years now? It's ninety three? What is ninety three? So we came in at about the same time. I think it was ninety one for me the Clarence Thomas hearings. But yeah, I mean there's no censor back there, right, I mean, Kelly is Saddam could call and she'd put him on what should break some news? Right she would say, sir, I'm having a very hard time understanding. See, that's what I mean. If Shannon Scott would sit in front of this microphone every
day, I would probably quit my job to listen to your show. Right, well, I wouldn't have a job because you'd take this show or any other show you wanted. No, guy's hilarious. But that's the point is if I'm wrong on some thing, Texter, everybody in the world has an open door to come in and show it. So you got to speak the truth, and the truth means talking about who's right and who's wrong. Ah Dan, It's amazing to me. Dave Williams actually considers himself a Christian.
I guess he's qualified to cast the first stone. Mike and Henderson, Listen. I don't. I don't get into that for anybody. Listen. I'm so focused on my own flaws when it comes to who's a good this or who's a good that. You know what I'm talking about? Is when somebody as party chair uses God as a sword to attack their opponents or to attack those in the party who question what he's doing, while at the same time, in my opinion, he's misusing the faith, He's undermining the causes through
the tactics he's employing. That's what I don't like. In terms of whether Bobby or Billy or anybody else is a good Christian or a good Catholic or a good Jew or whatever. I never address that. That's I'm the last
person on the planet qualified to talk about that, you know. I'm just talking about what somebody's doing as party chair when they go out and put up a message like God hates flags, which is I think a thinly veiled reference to the horrific God hates fags of that awful Westboro Church, and you know, God hates pride in this and that it's just an associating God with hate in a political context like this just just kind of painting Republicans as haters,
which is so fundamentally unfair. Think about it. You probably know a lot of people in the GOP. You may be in it yourself. I know a lot of people in the GOP. If you do you know they are not haters, They are the opposite of that. But people outside the GOP all the knows the stereotypes. So all Dave's doing is feeding that awful, unfair, dishonest stereotype and handing the left a gift. No, no,
it's it's time for a change. But those who disagree will take you first eight five to five for zero five eight two five five text d an five seven seven three nine five to fifty one, Glad you're here. Phone lines and text have been exploding, especially the text in Fuego Dan. If the Central Republican Committee does not remove Dave Williams, and I will remove myself and all my financial support from this party. This man has broken party rules,
He ruins a reputation, and he must be outed. That is the only way I have to speak to the party as my membership. If they will not listen, I will not speak to them anymore. Text Obviously, I have no idea who this texture is or what they contribute to the party, et cetera. In terms of and I agree obviously that Dave should not be the party share anymore. At this point, his actions have the effect of
helping the opponents tremendously and making the GOP look bad. I don't know of any party rules that Dave's broken, though I think Dave has had been behind rule changes that allow things that don't make any sense, such as for the GOP to endorse in primaries. I thought the job of the GOP was to provide a level playing field so the candidates could do it out in a primary and the voters could make the choice. But I don't know that he's broken
any party rules. I just think he's done a lot of things that undermine the causes, undermine the party, undermine our candidates, and help the left win, which goes to I've had a number of texts along these same lines. I'll paraphrase it, Dan, Dave Williams has infiltrated the GOP. Now he's trying to undermine or destroy the GOP from inside. You said he used to be a Democrat. I think he still is. No, forgive me, I used to be a Democrat. I'm not saying Dave Williams, so
what's effort a democrat? Not at all. And we've had a number of Texters say, hey, do you think he's like Ken Buck? Now? Do you think he's trying to help the left. No, I don't, not at all. I think Dave's a very smart guy. I enjoyed Dave. I think on some level Dave must understand right that that he is helping the left here and hurting the causes that he says he believes in. But
maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's just so close to this now and so focused on his own election and attracting attention to himself that maybe that's he's he's just completely missing this bigger picture right now. Eight F five for zero five A two five five the number textda N five seven seven thirty nine. But no matter what his intent is, the effect is obvious.
Right. He's undermining the cause is he's undermining our candidates. He's making it much harder to win now and into the future, and he's helping the left win. That's a pretty bad cocktail where I come from. Kevin in Beautiful
Boulder, you're on the Dan Kaplis show. Welcome. Speaking of God, I said, speaking of God, Yes, I'm in favor of what Trump proposes with getting rid of the income tax for certain people, because in the Bible, God requires the gold and silver standard, and the constitution requires a gold and silver standard, but we don't have that now because the banks created and own the federal Reserve system. So allow me to play this sounstitutional money
to tax and there is no constitutional money to pay a tax with. Okay, let me let me play the sound for the folks who aren't familiar with what you're referring to. So this is the first time I've said this. And for those hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to be very happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips people. And I think, wow. So what do you
think of that underlying policy, Kevin? Do you have any thoughts on that separate apart from federal reserve, gold standard, silver standard, et cetera. What do you think of the policy? Well, it plays favorites with certain people, unless he's going to apply it to every worker, But in general, I'm in favor of it because nobody should pay an income tax in this country. Okay, Kevin, have you tried that? Have you tried that at home? Not pay an income tax? I'm saying nobody should. Okay,
Okay, everybody should have a big tax revolt. And just refuse to pay income bat you pay yours and lawful for many reasons, but you pay yours. No, I don't pay. I paid income tax. I'm seventy four. I paid income fifty once and that was nineteen seventy four, and then you something like dollars did you owe income tax in other years and you just didn't pay it? I didn't owe tax at all for the reason I
just gave you. But I paid. But I didn't know that then, Okay, So I paid fifty dollars on income that I thought qualified for an income tax in nineteen seventy four. And were there other years when you know, the government said that you owed income tax, but you chose not to pay The government never said anything, okay about that? Okay, Kevin, all right, I get it. First of all, do not follow Kevin's lead. Do not follow Kevin's advice. Follow the law. If you want
to change the law, go change the law. Right. Sorry. It's just frustrating to me when people won't give a direct answer. And I appreciate Kevin listening. I hope he listens forever. I hope he calls all the time. But let's give a direct answer and follow the law, unless you don't like it, then change the law. But wow, well, anyway, we'll continue to follow this story during the week, you know, whether there's going to be more of a movement to seek Dave's Ousters party chair.
But I think what's most critical ultimately is that people just speak up against this. You know, it's not personal. Again, I really like the guy, and he's always welcome here, and we've had a lot of great conversations. But Dave is doing so much to harm the causes right now, so much that has the effect of helping the other side so much. That's just flat wrong. I just think it's very important for everybody to go on record on this. It just shouldn't be ignored at this point. Tomorrow we'll be
following. You know that you would think, in the normal course sense, it appears to be an absolutely slam dunk case that Hunter Biden would be convicted tomorrow on these charges. For the reasons I've talked about. I think that Joe Biden is probably pulling very hard for a Hunter Biden conviction. I think the whole Biden clan is pulling hard for a Hunter Biden conviction so they can then say oh, you got your pound of flesh. Everybody's equal under the
law. And hey, what about those tax evasion charges that then start to get into the money, like where did Hunter get that money and why did he have that money? Was it to buy influence through Joe? Yeah, they want to distract and deflect. Probably the best thing that could happen to Trump would be for Hunter Biden to be acquitted tomorrow, but expect a conviction. Thank you Shannon Scott, Thank you, Kelly. Join us tomorrow.