This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every single day on your favorite podcast platform. Let the ideas collide. It can be respectful, polite, but let the ideas collide. And finally today, thank you Lord. We're gonna hear someone from the other side. Is someone make
the case to keep Dave Williams's party chair. Obviously I think he should go much more importantly, many people in the GOP think he should no longer be the GOP party chair. But we've been calling Dave over and over and over again, and we've had Dave on the show so many times over the years, I can't even count it any more. But Kelly, how many times have you invited Dave on at this point? Q plus que for hope is my share? Don't get any response at all? No, And Ryan,
you've tried to reach our friend Dave also, right? Oh yeah, yeah, we've made multiple attempts to inquire, and obviously we've asked on air as well, over and over and over again. So I look forward to the day, and I expect it will come when Dave will join us and present
the case for why he should remain his party chair. When I think there's such overwhelming evidence that that for the good of all of these causes that Dave says he cares about, and obviously you care about, and I care about, and I think all good conservatives and many other Americans care about, Dave needs to leave his party chair. He's hurting the cause right now. He's a walking, talking gift to the left. And so I don't think it's
even remotely a close call. I don't know how the vote's going to turn out, because I'm not an insider. I can't you know, headcount and all of that other good stuff. Nancy Palazzi, who heads the jeffco GOPU, I think, has been very courageous on this and has led on this
for Dave's ouster, believes she will have the votes. But but bottom line is that if you're just looking at it rationally, logically, objectively, and your priority is winning on these critical issues and including the critical issues of this radical left administration under the guise of LGBTQ rights, trying to strip away religious freedom, religious liberty, parental rights, et cetera. It's critical to win on these in every issue. And if you're just talking about, okay,
how do we win, how do we stand for what's right? How do we represent what Republicans in Colorado really are? To me, it's a no brainer that Dave cannot continue in that position. But we're fortunate that a gentleman who was suggested to us yesterday, Tim Leonard, former State Rep, is going to join us at four thirty six to make the case as to why Dave should stay in that job. So we very much appreciate that and look
forward to Tim Leonard at four thirty six. He's a former member of the General Assembly as a representative Dan And to your earlier point, he had a friend who was listening to the prom notified him and immediately reached out to come on. Excellent, excellent, So we do look forward to that at four thirty six. And let me suggest this to you, Okay, I suggest to you that in the first two or three minutes of that interview, it is going to be clear to mister Leonard, it's going to be clear to
you, it's going to be clear to everybody. If it is not already right that he simply can't stay that it is not an option for Dave Williams to stay in that job because certain things he's done are causing irreparable harm to the GOP and these causes and it's essential that he leave soon. So I'll look forward to that conversation at four thirty six. This to me is one of the coolest things in a long time, and it's something that you can do and I can do, and everybody can do, if not every day,
almost every day. I can do it every day because my routine is I'm an early morning guy. I get up, I'm working for others, and then I go over to snooze and I grab breakfast and then I go into the office and get into the office early. But so yeah, I'm eating out every morning. But whenever you eat out, you can do something really tangible to help President Trump win. And I wish this was an original idea for me, because it's such a great idea, but it's not.
It's Blake Master's idea. And what he did and he tweeted out a picture of a restaurant bill and he had left a nice tip, and what he wrote on the bill next to the tip was vote Trump exclamation point. He won't tax tips, exclamation point. So, everybody in America who wants to see Trump win, everywhere you are, every time you eat out between now an election day and I'm sure you tip, just write that. Write that on your bill, vote Trump. Now, what I would write on the
bill is is something like vote Trump. Trump says no to tax on tips or something like that, because though, isn't it. It is, and I'm working on it. But you get the gist of it, right, because listen, I'm always going to be honest. Trump Trump doesn't have the unilateral power to stop tax on tips. So I don't want to write something on this receipt that isn't true. So, but there is a snappy way to say it that is true. Vote Trump. Right, he says no
to tax on tips or something like that. But just get the point across and make sure you're not like my dad, you actually tip. Well, if you write a message like so, I'm always having to dad, you can't tip ten percent anyone? What are you talking about? I'm like,
it's not the eighties anymore. And I understand there are some folks that just don't have the money, right, But for the vast, fat, vast majority of people who you know can't afford to leave a decent tip, I do not understand those who will not, right, I just don't get it. I just obviously think it's some of the best money we can ever spend because you know that person's working, you know that person's working hard. I mean to me, it's it's just a tremendous opportunity to be able to show
respect for that. But anyway, whatever you do, we can do it every single time we eat out at a restaurant or tip in any other scenario, as long as it's you know, on a receipt like this. So, man, I think that could be really effective. You think about how close some of these swing states could be, and you know, hey, listen to state like Colorado. Will it actually be in play. Probably not, But that's no excuse for us not doing everything we can, as Colorado's
to try to win the state. You know, I think we're obligated to do that. But man, in some of the swing states, this could make a big, big difference. Just to remind people are working for tips. Yeah, one guy out there, the other guy wants to tax your tips. This guy doesn't Yeah eight five to five or zero five A two five to five text DN five seven seven, three nine. Much more going on today as well. I'll just give you a quick overview because there's in
time in this segment meant to really sink our teeth into it. But National Review out with the piece saying that migrantcy legal immigration in Denver has cost Denver how much in the last year. What would you guess, Ryan, I don't know. Thirty eight million. We will get you a home. We will get you a home. We will get you a home. Okay, for every dollar it's likely cost Denver according to National Review, I'd have to push that three and forty million times. WHOA how long do you think it
would take me to do that? I don't know that you have enough years left on the earth, so almost not quite, but getting toward twice the police budget, at least one and a half times the law enforcement budget. We will get you a home. I'm not sure i'd want to push that
three hundred and forty million times. Speaking of which, I'm sure you've seen the story by now that border patrol is now tracked down eight different members of ices, all with Russian backgrounds who got in through the southern border for everyone trackdown? How many do you think there are who haven't been tracked out at least send to one? Yeah, which phrases, And it's a sad question,
right, but it's one we have to talk about. Certainly, this New York City councilman is frightening and we're headed for another nine to eleven. I predicted that I think we should have a secure border, we should know who's coming into our country. So do you think we're headed toward another nine to eleven? If so, what's it going to look like when and where? I mean, listen right now. And Biden had to know this,
right. I'm not saying he wanted another nine to eleven. I'm sure he did, doesn't, but when he decided to open up that border and essentially implicitly invite in anybody who wanted to come in, unvetted, essentially from all over the world, he had to know right that you were going to get a lot of terrorists coming in through that southern border. So right now,
we certainly it's not even a question. Right. We have a lot of very days Jewish people who are here with bad intentions, and they are waiting until what So what is your take on that. I've got my own eighty five for zero five A two five five the number much more ahead as well. But remember four point thirty six. We'll have a special guest, Tim Leonard, who's going to take the opposite position from me and say that day Dave Williams should remain as party chair. You're on the Dankpla Show. And
now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. National reviews saying three hundred and forty million up to three forty million spent by Denver on migrants in the past year, so that one of the many headlines and topics today don in Denver. You're on the Dan Capitlis Show. Welcome, Hey, Dan uh subject.
There is a study that was done by an organization called fair FAIRUS dot com and they looked at all the governments statistics and they compiled a study that indicates that in twenty twenty three, it cost US one hundred and fifty billion dollars for illegals and how many folks did they assume we're here illegally? Do
you remember from that study? And I don't. I have that study in file, but I don't recall how many they estimated were here, but they did give credit for like sales tax, and they'd like that suple paid. So the gross number was the one hundred and eighty billion, but after credits were given, it boiled down to one hundred and fifty points seven billion dollars.
That is costing US a year in twenty twenty three to have illegal So it doesn't surprise me the costs in Denver, well, And I'm sure don what Mike Johnston and other Democrats are thinking is that wait a second, who cares these votes are priceles, right, Because that's the whole play is use these people, including the children and young girls and women who are so subject to sexual assault and abuse in the dangerous trip up, use these people as
pawns because they're going to turn into Democrat votes. So these Democrats don't care how much it costs taxpayers. They don't care how much it costs the individuals who are being used as pawns. All they care about are those ultimate votes for Democrats eight five or zero five eight two five five text d an five seven seven three nine. And by the way, again we'll have Tim Leonard with us at four point thirty six, he offered to come on and make
the case for why Dave Williams should stay his party chair. Obviously, I think the opposite, as do a lot of other people, So look forward to having that conversation with Tim. Texter Dan long Ago. I voted for Tim Leonard against Bill Owens when Bill went wildly on the life issue. It will be interesting to hear what Tim has to say. As a Catholic, I'm opposed to the LGP t agenda flag in Pride months, but that is
now not a politically viable position in Marxist Colorado. Paul with Mercenary construction. Paul, thank you, No, it's not only Wait a second. If you're talking about being opposed to say this administration's far left agenda to use these LGBTQ plus etc. Issues to undermine free speech, to undermine religious liberty,
to undermine parental rights, to indoctrining children, wait a second. You need to be opposed to those policies, and we need to We need to fight in the courts, we need to fight politically, and we need to fight every way we can to win on those issues. It's vital we win on those issues and we can win on those issues. I think America's with us on those issues. About the only way we can lose long term on those
issues is to do what Dave Williams is doing. Because Dave Williams is playing right into the hands of the far left, who like to say because the far left doesn't like to talk about reason and analysis and policy, they like to say, oh, you disagree with me, you're a hater. Well guess what. Dave has giving you the gift of a lifetime far left because he is making Republicans in Colorado look like it's all about hate, look like
they hate gays. I mean, you could not if the far left sat down and thought, Okay, how do we protect all of these insane policies you know which Americans will never go for, they would say, Okay, let's have the gopach here start putting out all this goofy stuff that says Republicans hate gaze and Republicans go out and grab and burn gave flags and align with Westboro Baptist Church, one of the most evil appearing forces on Earth. Yeah. Yeah, if we can only get the gopach here to do all those
things, we might actually pull off this insane leftist agenda. So that's what's going on right now. Note Paul, we need to win on those policy issues I just talked about. We cannot give up. But Dave Williams is undermining the cause. Uhhh, let's see what else do we have? Dan and attack by Islamic terrorists may not rise to the magnitude of nine to eleven, but a series of smaller attack shopping malls, church functions, et cetera
to and still fear in the American people. You know we're talking about with Biden obviously allowing in so many dangerous people from around the world, what's likely to come next? When and where? And I know it's sad to think about, but we you know, we're adults. We have to be clear eyed and realistic about what the Democrats have inflicted on America. And we have to be thinking about, Okay, what does that mean for our society, our politics, etc. You can bet a bunch of voters will be thinking
about that. Hey, speaking of which, really good move by Congress today, here's the speaker before they had that vote to address the two tiered system of justice in those countries we've talked about, we basically have a three pronged approach. We're of course aggressively pursuing the oversight responsibility that we have. We've talked about this morning. We are looking at other legislation, and of course we have the appropriations and we're going to utilize every tool that we have in
our arsenal because we're required to do so under the Constitution. And I think that's a part of it. And in pursuit of that, I do think the contempt of Merck Garland will pass on the floor, and we're anxious to have that help. It did pass, and it needed to pass because this
is ridiculous. You have this critical piece of evidence, the actual tape recording of Joe Biden when he was interviewed by DOJ in connection with I believe his obvious criminal mishandling of sensified classified information, and they won't release the tape. The Biden administration, through DOJ, will not release the tape. The American voters need access to that tape to make a fully informed decision on whether Joe
Biden should get a second term. That the fact that the Biden administration won't release it tells you, welly, it's critical that American voters be able to hear it. Now, I will tell you what I think is really going
on. Obviously they don't want the voters to hear it because Biden will sound mentally incompetent on the tape, right, I mean, Special Council said, after I interviewed the guy, I concluded, and I'm paraphrasing, that you know, we couldn't charge him with these offenses, that jury would conclude that, you know, he's his memory is so bad that he had forgotten he did all this, but or in other words, just not mentally competent. But here's the other thing that's going on. It's not quote just that.
The other thing that's going on here is is if that tape was released, what the American people would hear over and over and over again on tape and it's not getting talked about at all except on this show. Is Joe Biden refusing to answer key questions from the Special Council. He claims he cooperated fully. Nonsense. He refused to answer key questions that go right to the heart of the criminality. And I'm paraphrasing, but questions like hey, did you
know you weren't supposed to take that stuff? So he didn't cooperate fully. In fact, on the most important stuff. He refused to answer at all, and you can. Democrats don't want that tape being played over and over. So yeah, it absolutely abusive of the administration to withhold that from Congress. And then on top of that, they go out and they lie about it. They go out and they say, oh, no, we got the transcript, and the transcript shows Joe Biden sharp as attack. Yeah,
why don't you release the tape? So no, I'm glad the GOP Congress stood up on this, and listen, I don't think they're going to release the tape because, as Peter Boyles loves to say, if you knew where you were going to die, you'd never go there. I think the Democrats know Biden certainly knows he cannot withstand the release of the tape. Of course, he's not going to be there. He's not going to be the nominee much longer anyway, the presumptive nominee. But I think for his legacy and
everything else, he does not want that tape out there. And for whoever the Democrat nominee is going to be, they don't want that tape out there. Yeah, Hey, when we come back. So grateful to have Tim Leonard on with us, former state Rep. He's going to disagree with me and take the position that Dave Williams should stay his party chair. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. I'm
really happy to have Tim Leonard with us. I don't know Tim personally is a former state Rep. In CD twenty five, and we've been out there pretty much begging to get Dave Williams on, to get somebody on to make the other side of this argument, because as you know, we've had Nancy Palasi on a bunch. She is the courageous GOP chair and jeffco who is pushing for the removal of Davis party chair, believe she's going to have the votes to do that. That's an ongoing process, so we're trying to get
the other side on and I agree with Nancy. I admire a for what she's doing. But Tim is kind enough to join us because he takes the opposite position. Tim, Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. Nhi Dan, how are you? I am living the dream? My friend? How about you? Excellent? Thank you very much. Wonderful. What I would like to do, Tim, is see if we can start with a full kumbai a here, See if we can start by agreeing on something which I think
will then lead you to my position on this. Are you up for that little experiment? Oh? Sure, I'd love it. Okay, vice versa right, well of these common grounds, and then maybe I'll lead you to my position. I look forward to that journey, my friend. But let's start with this moment. I'm sure we can agree that Westboro Baptist Church engages in some of the most evil behavior we've ever seen in public life, specifically picketing the funerals of dead soldiers with signs and chance. Thank God for dead
soldiers, thank God for IEDs. God hates crippled soldiers. So we can agree that Westboro Baptist Church is the last, the last organization on the face of the earth the Colorado GOP would want to align with. Well, to answer you, honestly, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about that church or anything that they've done. So okay, well, well, let me let me put it in the form of a hypothetical, Tim, But Tim, don't you remember don't you remember this this group of awful humans who
would travel around and and pick it. You've never heard about any of that, okay, but but it's all true and uh, and it's all well documented in the media. I'm quoting from a Guardian piece on this. But but we've been watching it for years. So just awful, awful, awful people. And and that is what Dave Williams I believe, has done here. And you can see it in some of the media stories on this because because Westborough, Dave Williams puts out this this email under the guys that Colorado
GOP. Listen, if it was just Dave Williams running under the guys, he is here. I mean it is right. He puts it out as Colorado g OP about the church. I never heard anything. Yeah, but I'm getting there. So Dave, Dave Williams puts out this this picture, this image, uh, and there's a video underlying it that has a picture of what I think is intended to be Jesus with like these rays coming out of his eyes. Have you seen that picture? And it says God hates
and flag picture what's that? And the other pictures, all the all the pictures in the in the email that was captured one, but but this is the one on the front right. God hates flags. Well, well, listening in my view and I think the view of many out there, and I don't think it's fairly refutable. God hates flags is an obvious is an obvious takeoff on God Hates fags, the despicable slogan of Westboro Baptist Church.
Well no, well, okay, so maybe guys like me. I don't want to be the naivest guy on the block here, but because I never heard of the church, but I never I didn't quite get the God hates flags. I didn't quite you know, was all flags or flags? So I didn't quite get that. But that's a marketing thing, but I didn't. Yeah, yeah, but unless it's that, unless it's intended tim unless it's intended to align with Westboro Baptist Church, God hates fags, that then
what would be the meaning? What would be the purpose of God Hates Flags? I think it's an obvious takeoff on that. I don't know. I mean, now we're in the intentions and yeah, marketing, so I don't But marketing, you know, if you say, hey, you really put out some you know, like Hey, that picture, that picture in the
front didn't do much as the pictures in the back. So let's but let's get on some common grounds that we have because yeah, but let me try to close the loop on this tim And if you disagree, and we're not in a rush for time, you can stay all day if you'd like, love to have you, but let's close the loop on this one. So if Dave Williams has actively tried to align the Colorado GOP with Westboro Baptist Church, then would you agree at that point he should no longer serve as chair.
Well, I have to caveat because I don't know enough about that the other church. But I can take your word for it that it's a bad day. And you're saying, should the chair align with a bad entity? And if that's his intent, I think you have to stretch it because guys like me read the whole thing and had no idea, didn't read any of that into it, and just took it and face out and read the words,
looked at the pictures and and saw it. And so I think if we were to go down and say, hey, let's go and analyze the words, what the party stands for? What the endgame here is. Is it good for the party or not? But I would I think you and I have a lot of commons. Oh yeah, But but can we close this sloop? And I'm happy to get a no. If you disagree, beautiful, we'll move on and then people can judge that. But but you can't. You can't have no comment. I mean, I guess you can't.
If you want over, We're no, No, We're not. This goes to the heart of it, Tim, Tim, hold on, This goes to the heart of it. Let me rephrase the question. If if the chair of the GOP has acted to align the GOP with an organization that protests at the funerals of dead soldiers, holding signs thank God for Dead Soldiers and has as its motto God Hates Fags. It's their website. God Hates
Fags dot Com is their despicable website. If Dave Williams has acted to align the GOP with them, do you agree Dave should no longer be chair? Listen, let's talk next week. I'm that question after I get up to speed. Tim, what more information than you need? I'm just giving you a hypothetical and if my okay, let's let's go down to something that you you enjoy more. Okay, but but but let me add another fact.
Since you're going to ponder this for a week and I don't know why you need to, let me let me no, no, no, let me add another fact. And you can stay all day, man, you can ask me anything you want. But but to me, this this makes this a no brainer. And with all due respect, that's why I think you're ducking it. But let me add another fact, tim, and and and just one quick thing. I'm the nicest guy in the world on air, but nobody short of the Good Lord himself is ever going to talk me down
on my own show. So so let me add another fact. Okay, Okay, we agree. And you've seen it that Dave Williams put out this email representing it to be the Colorado GOP that God hates pride, right, yes, okay, that's also directly from Westboro Baptist Church. When you're doing your research, go to their website. It's right on their website. God hates pride. So, in my opinion, and I don't think it's it's fairly refutable, Dave Williams has aligned the Colorado GOP with Westboro Baptist Church,
one of the most despicable organizations on the face of the earth. Okay, okay, and you get to do that, you get. But if I go google God hates Pride, I'm going to get the Cardinal Sins and I'm going to get Pride the first one. And it could be next week. God hates greed, God hates me. Well, what are you going to get if you google God hates flax? What are you going to get? Well? Google it up. You got your phone in front of you,
Google it up, because what you will find is Westboro Baptist Church. Their web domain that they paid money for is God Hates fags dot com. And do you really think that's a coincidence? Do you really think that's a coincidence that the Colorado GOP puts out God hates flags. I don't know, but I would know. I wouldn't accuse people on that now. I mean, it could be if you're a coincidence, that's her or something, And I get if you're it could be, but I don't think, I mean,
unless it's your whole basis, I guess I better you know. Oh no, no, I got a lot more where that came from. My friend, I got a lot more than that where that came from. And and let's talk about that. Let's talk about burning plied pride flags. You would agree, and then we'll hit a break. You would agree that the Colorado GOP put out a message including a flame image that that said burn pride flags.
Right, I did see that yet? Oh okay, So when we come back, and then I'm happy to talk about anything you want to. When we come back, I'm I'm just going to ask you do you agree that it would be illegal, wrong and violent for anyone to take someone's pride flag and burn it? So we'll we'll ask Tim that question when we come back. Eight five to five four zero five A two five five the number you're on the Dan Kapla Show. And now back to the Dan Taplas Show
podcast had Tim Leonard zero formask at REPSIB twenty five. Tim's taking the position Dave Williams should stay his party chair. I take the opposite position, So Tim, thank you for being here. And the question I left at the table when we took that break was and we opened by talking about the Westboro Baptist Church aspect of this. But I just asked you about whether you think it's okay for the Colorado GOP to be telling the public to go out and
burn Pride flags in June. Before I answer that, I just wanted off a little off topic because I think get to hear your ad on your pro life, your own ad, and I want to thank you, and because you have done tons and tons and tons of stuff for the pro Lege Commune, especially the Catholics. I think we did get to meet each other years ago on a on a lighthouse cool pregnancy issue that you were a speaker at MC and but anyway, you've got forty years worth of really standing up for
the thank you. I'm born appreciate it. And I know we had a Texter who said that you have been a great pro life champion, So so thank you for that. And yeah, so common grounds, yeah, common ground, And I'll answer this one. I got. I got a couple of things I think will do common ground. So when you asked me the question, then you re asked me, you said taking other people's flags and
burning them and violence. So I know there's a little drama in there, but nobody was saying anything about taking other people's flags stealing property, facing anything, and having any violence. So whether it's a common like let's burn down the house or you know, let's fight about this topic, those are not meant there to be violent. How do you know that actions? So here's the quote from the Colorado Republican Party six three twenty four, burn all Pride
flags this June, and then an image of a flame. Yes, yes, I did it. I understand that the drama there was kind of exactly equal to the drama of your question of should they go out and take other people's flags and create violence? So it's kind of the same thing. You didn't really mean that when you asked me that question. Well, no, no, no, Tim, I did. Let's let's say the left put out burn all Catholic churches this June. What would your reaction be to that.
Would you just say, oh, no, no the left to put that out? Didn't really mean it literally, Well, but I don't have I don't own a cap church myself and my on my front porch. So but lots of people can have flags. It could have said go out and buy one and burn it. It could have said it's time for you to burn your bra Oh I meant burn your flag, So it could be lots of those things. And I think that if you want to read it that
way, I wouldn't say you're incorrect. But I don't think you should say I'm incorrect by saying it's more of a rhetorical, dramatic dramatization of Hey, let's get out and let's let's do the opposite of what's going on. Okay, But then let me get back to the starting point question. Do you think the Colorado GOP I E. Dave Williams was correct to tweet out burn
all the Pride flags this June with the visual of a flame. Listen, if I went through all mean tweets of Trump, you go, oh, well that's it, forget it. I'm not Yes, too many mean tweets. Hey, no one's perfect, so I know what I want for us. Listen to some comedy. But let me ask my friend respectfully, why can't you answer that yes or no? I mean, I'm not going to try to twist your arm if you disagree with me. Say so. What I'm saying is I'm right in the middle. I'm saying you can say that
it's rhetorical and no one's reading anything into it. And then you could say there's another group, which maybe include yourself, that says I'm highly offended American flags being burned, Nazi flags being burned, gay play. I don't like flags being burned. And it's not about being offended. It's now nobody cares if I'm offended. This is about the Colorado GOP, which we can agree on this, right, The Colorado GOP exists to win elections in order to
stop bad things from happening and make good things happen. Right, that's okay? Is correct? Okay, So your lifted thing, those would be some of them. Okay, correct? So tell me, my friend, how does a tweet from the Colorado GOP burn all the Pride flags this June help the Colorado GOP win? I understand, I understand what you're saying. It may back up some things, it may not, but let's go what it does do. Here's what it does. It reinforces things you and I agree
on, and wills do these ground things that we can stipulate to. Do you think there is a battle of good and evil? I do, okay, and I do too, and we agree on that. Where do you think this battle takes place? Where does it exist everywhere everywhere, like in the studio in UH. I don't see any evil here. Well, no, you do, you do. There's just Ryan and Kelly and me. No, you get to be the front of you the battle of ideas. You get to be right in there. Not always do you get evil,
but sometimes sometimes you do. And I never get evil, but sometimes we get evil ideas. But yeah, and we've got about two minutes left in the segment, and hope we have you on the other side. Is there a oh, I guess we have twenty seconds, so well pick this up. On the other side, Tim Leonard is with us. Tim's a former state rep. He's taking the position Dave Williams should not be removed as party chair. I believe that Dave should. We've done two segments together already.
If you miss them or most of them, you can pick it up off the podcast. We'll continue this discussion after news on the Dan Kapla Show.