This is Dan Caplis, and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every single day on your favorite podcast platform. I've been so adamant, whether it's inside the party or outside the party, so adamant about Wait a second, we've got to be smart. We can't be saying stupid things. We
can't be doing stupid things. We can't be handing the enemy gifts, the political enemy, of course, gifts and victories that were just better than that. And we've got to do what it takes to make sure that we're moving forward and not backwards. So we'll have the latest on that in a couple
of minutes. I do want to get back to in a second, this Gallop poll that the left's making such a big deal about, trying to convince the nation that that America has decidedly shifted against life and it's going to be a disastrous issue for Republicans in November. Nonsense. And so I've been breaking down the details from this poll, which actually contains a lot more good news for pro lifers than it does for pro aborts. Hey, let's go to
the VIP line. One of the really good people in politics, Jerry Sonenberg, who is now running for that seat up in CD four and a GOP primary packed with talent. Jerry kind enough to join us again. Welcome to the Dan Kaplo Show. Jerry? How you doing? I am doing fantastic. You always are, fday afternoon. How are you? You always are?
I expect if I was to bump into you the moment the results come out on June twenty five, and whether you have won this primary by ten points or lost it by ten points, you're going to be the same happy, upbeat, forward looking guy, which is one of your many great qualities. Absolutely absolutely I will. My wife I have talked about what happens if you win, what happens if you lose. How's that play out? The truth is this campaign, whether I win or lose, has made me a
better man. Well, and you're running the right way for the right reasons. For me, it's all about how do you serve the people. And when I was in the Colorado Legislature, it wasn't the bills I carried, It wasn't the fights that I had on the floor of the Senate. Although
those are important, it was more about constituent services. How did I take care of those people that were having trouble navigating the Department of Revenue, or the towns, the small towns that had trouble with the Department of Health and Human Services, or even my farmers and ranchers that may have had issues and needed to navigate through the Department Agriculture. For what I support, That's what
I work on. Yeah, that is such a great point because I remember when my mom was dying of emphysema and I needed some information critically, you know, from a US senator who I had, you know, given a lot of money to and supported, and I didn't want to talk to him. I didn't want any kind of favor, I didn't want any special treatment. I just needed some information and called his office and they just blew me off. And I thought, why I haven't run for office if you're not
willing to help people in a moment like that. Absolutely, And the truth is, if I have people that blow off constituents that call, we're getting new people. Because that's that's the mainstay of my campaign is how do we serve. How do we take care of those things that the government puts up in front of you as a citizen, whether it's a passport issue or local unidation with very smater quality, those type of things, that's what those are the or a bad cell phone connection. Yeah, can you hear me?
Okay, Jerry, I can't. What is the state of the race? I mean everybody knows by now that that there's kind of a math challenge, right, because you've got so much talent packed into one primary, and then you're going to be dividing up a lot of votes. So so what's the state of the race? Well, and that's a good question. And you know you've seen the red the polling, Well, the polling I have challenges
with. But you see the amount of money being spent in the campaign to get name I d and and yes, I'm spending money on the TV and trying to get my name out there so people recognize the work that I've done and recognize my name when they fill out their ballots. And now there's another candidate in the race that has really good name ID and then has more money, So that becomes a challenge for the rest of us that are looking at
a narrow path to victory. Yeah, because I mean you've got Congressoman Bobert, you know, with all of that she brings to the table, and then you've got a bunch of really talented candidates, and you know, it'd be interesting to see what it would look like in a one on one race, but obviously not the race that we have here. So what is your website? How can people learn more about you? Dan? Thank you for asking. It's Sunberg for Congress dot com. S O M M E N
B E R G E F O R Congress dot com. H happy to answer any questions my emails on there. They can reach out and I have a number of people do that. I've been having an ongoing conversation with a number of people, and my campaign team says, you don't have time to do that, and yes I do quite frankly. That's what's important, is that one on one having a conversation and not blowing people off. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you really are one of the good guys in politics,
you have been for a long time. And wish you the best here and let's talk again before election day, which is seems like tomorrow, right, I believe how close to twenty five is? Holy cow? And I bet you're counting a minute. Well, hey, and have a good Father's Day. You do the same, Dan, have a wonderful weekend and a wonderful Father's Day. And thank you for the opportunity to just catch up and busit with you. I look forward to talking to you again. Thank you,
my friend you as well. That is Jerry Sonenberg. And I've said this before. There's no doubt in my mind if if you were out there driving through the Eastern Plains and it was the worst blizzard they'd ever had and your car breaks down and it's five below zero, Jerry would be the guy to
stop and help you change the tires. Just that kind of guy. Speaking of Father's Day, we're going to do on the show in a bit one of my favorite segments of the year for both Mother's Day and Father's Day, which is the best advice your father ever gave you, Because it's it's amazing, you know, the kind of the collective wisdom when everybody starts talking about that one top best piece of advice. It's fun and a lot to be
learned. Ryan. I'm watching the monitor here because we're talking all the time. If it was up to me, we'd spend all day every day talking about the debate between now and debate day, because I think it's going to be that important and it's that interesting the way all these dynamics are shaping up. But so glad to see the chiron President Trump now talking at his birthday
celebration, a big birthday rally, But see the chiron Trump colon. I'm a peace maker, and this is what we've been talking about in the debate, the danger of diffusion. Find your few key best points, keep hammering those, and Trump has so many of those. But I am a peace maker. You know, A vote for Trump is a vote for peace. A vote for Biden is a vote for war. That's not rhetoric. We know it. Just look at the track records. Both have had presidencies now
right. Trump's was marked by peace, Biden's marked by war for obvious reasons. So just stay clear on that theme. The other thing, and if I had a chance to give the president advice, and I think he'd liked this piece. The other thing is get the guy on the golf course. You know he's just been through a horrible ordeal with this this wrongful conviction in
New York, had to be in that court in for a month. Get him on the golf course, get him rested, get him prepped, get him as sharp as he can be mentally, because we don't know he's a super intelligent guy. But you know, you can also get fatigued if you're out there on the trail constantly. So just be ready for that. A Trump. But those key points, those key themes, obviously near the head of the pack, needs to be I'm a peacemaker. Vote for Trump is
a vote for peace, vote for Biden, vote for war. The proof is there? Eight five five or zero five A two five five the number when we come back open lines. But let's start with the best advice your father ever gave you. I want to give you more good stuff out of this gallop pole on pro choice versus pro life, And I want to get to this texter, who let me tee this up? This texture? Says Dan? How is the life issued different than LGBTQ plus why can we tolerate
one and say it's okay but not the other? Shouldn't we follow God on both? Thank you for that question, texter. And there's a very easy answer to that, we'll get to a five point twenty one point five on the Dankapitlas Show. And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast. What do you think God would say if he called the show wow? Eight five five for zero five A two five five text d A N five seven seven three nine. We're also pre Father's Day show. The best advice your father
ever gave you, I'll kick it off with one. My dad gave so much great advice. The best advice he gave was by example. You know, six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds, former top college athlete, Chicago police officer, just watching him in action. Would come home from More every day when he was working days and when he was off and get all the kids out in the alley and we'd play football in the alley or would play softball, depending on the season. You know, he just taught
me through example that love is spelled time. Somebody else coined that phrase, but he did it by example. But one of his great messages was the most important things in life aren't things? So? And you know he just lived that. So would love to hear from you on all of that. But Ryan, before we get to our fiery phone lines. And I'm going to start with that text I mentioned before the break. What do you think God would say if he called the show? And I'd love to hear from
other people on that. Yeah, what do you think? And that could happen? God can do anything he wants, right, Kelly may pick up that next line, and Kelly, I believe in the New Testament God, which is a loving, caring, for giving God, and I think he would want us to love one another and not hate one another. What would he say if he called the show? I don't know him, that talk about und him. You don't have to be to answer that question. Think about it, but I will bet you my friend, and this is the
business. Well you said that before I say it again, that's right. But all all I'm saying is that's probably the first time that question has ever been asked on a talk show anywhere, at any time. So I just asked people to ponder it. We try to stay fresh here. I got you. Yeah, So anyway, let me get back to that text, Dan, how is the life issue different than LGBTQ plus why can we tolerate one and say it's okay but not the other shouldn't we follow God on both?
Respectfully, I reject your premise. The life issue isn't different than LGBTQ plus. I mean, the answer is consistent and clear when it comes to policy, you stop bad things and you do good things. So on life, on abortion, you stop bad things. You stop the killing of children
before birth. On LGBTQ plus policy issues, you stop bad things. You stop the mutilation of children under the guise of quote gender affirmation, you stop the and I'm talking to policy level here, you stop the sexualization of children at a young age, which is what this Biden administration and leftist allies are trying to do. You stop undermining religious liberty by saying LGBTQ plus rights trump religious liberty, You defend First Amendment. You stop the effort of LGBTQ plus
policy issues and rights trumping First Amendment rights. So it's absolutely consistent on both fronts. And that's whether one believes in God or doesn't believe in God. So yeah, I think that one simple Brian in beautiful Arvada, Colorado. You're on the Dan Kaplis show. Welcome. Hey, Dan, I could hearing you say the term God hates flags. But what else that he said that offends you, that he's wrong about. Oh, nothing offends me.
This isn't about offending me. What what I'm concerned strong? Besides, you're associating some church or something. But what else in his the post or whatever offends you? Well, again, that's wrong, right, right, And I'll be more precise than that. What I'm focused on are the things that Dave Williams's party chair has done to help the left win and to undermine the GOP in Colorado. And you start with launching a campaign literally based on hate.
That's a gift to the left, using the H word repeatedly, that is a gift to the left. And on these you won't, I won't what you won't tell us specifics about it. I have done that beyond that, and if you hadn't interrupted me, I would have again. But I've done it in a hundred times. Yes, and and so he's done it
in multiple ways, my friend, as I've documented on this show. First of all, and the worst of all is in my opinion, and Dave's welcome on the show to tell me if he thinks I'm wrong in my opinion, the absolutely insidious God hates flags post which I think any thinking person is going to view as code for the awful God Hates Fags message of Westboro Baptist Church that in fact is their website, God Hates Fags dot com. That's
how evil they are. And so you agree, right, we agree with went allver that, But what in what in his actual narrative beyond that? Did he say that the wrong to you? Beyond the little pot? No? No, wait a second, you want to drive by that, Brian, that's a big mistake, because if I'm right, and Dave's welcome on the show, if he believes I'm wrong, and to explain, Okay, Brian, may I please just explain my point? And the other day we
had somebody called the defend Dave on this. I literally kept the guy the entire show, and he dodged question after question. I will keep you the entire show, so you don't have to interrupt me. Just let me make my point, and then if I'm wrong, tell me where you want to
say? What else do you got? I want to say, I don't need any more because if Dave Williams did what I believe he did, and if he chose to have the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church and their insidious God hates fag's motto that in and of itself is absolutely requires termination from the post. Westboro Baptist Church is a hate group in my mind, a hate group in my opinion, that celebrates the killing of American soldiers. It pickets
the funerals of American soldiers and celebrates their death. So if Dave Williams did what I think he did, and and he aligned the Colorado GOP, or to be more precise, echoed, has the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church? Can't you agree at that point, Brian, he should be gone. No, not at all. What if it's true, Brian, No, no, no, no, no, what if that's true? No, he can Okay, it might have been. It might have been a little bit. You know, let's maybe I'll give that to you. But he
got people's attention. I want to know, you know you can get what he said was wrong? Okay, I want to know. Well I started with that, So you tell me if that's what the content I want to we're shot with that. We already agree on that. No, no, no, but but you will Brian, what I okay, I'm put Brian and holds for a second. I answered Brian's question. I'm going to ask Brian to answer mine, and we have jam lines. We have an open line. But I'll bring Brian back on the other side. See this,
this is what this is what he's trying to do. He's trying to drive past this point. But to be intellectually honest, what Brian needs to answer and what Dave needs to answer to the people of the GOP across the state is if he was doing what I and many others think he was doing, which is echoing Westboro Baptist Church, insidious God hates fags. If he was
doing that, can't we all agree he should be gone. And if Brian believes that, no, if that's what he was doing, he should stay, then then he needs to say that and explain why and how that doesn't sink the GOP. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. We're talking about I'd do this every father Standmother's Day. The best advice your father ever gave you. I've given some of the
best advice I got from my dad. Texter says, my dad said, buy apple Stock that was in nineteen eighty three or so, so he kicks himself every day for not doing that. My dad, at a sign above his desk, said don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today. He was a World War Two disabled vet. And the other great advice was to always use a moisturizer. See, we didn't get that advice in Chicago because with the humidity, I mean, they probably sold one tube a moisturizer
a year in Chicago. But when Dan, my dad taught me when I was little that pain interest was like throwing money out the window, and it always stuck with me. So now we're taking some calls on that as well. Another piece of great advice from my dad. If you're grateful, you're rich, some of the best advice ever. Right Hey, now we'll continue with Brian. Brian had called the show on the GOP chair issue. We have Priscilla Ron's schedule to be with us, another of the really good people
in politics in Colorado. She's a candidate to GOP. Douglas County Commissioner Priscilla for dougco dot com. Priscilla, Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show. Hi, Dan, great to be on with you. Well, thank you and day tell everybody what you're up to and listen. We're blessed with audience from all over the state and beyond. But I understand the issues that you'll face as Douglas County Commissioner, you know have have much broader impact. So tell
people why this race is important and why you're in it. Well, it's really important because the number one issue amongst Douglas County residents are property taxes and we are suffering under you know, the repeal of Gallagher. So I do have a plan on my website to address property taxes. And also because of the illegal immigrants crisis that we've been dealing with at the border and now in
the Denver metro area, public safety is really important. So I am endorsed by our Sheriff, our DA John Kellner, and our men and women in blue who wear the badge every single day. So I'm really proud to work alongside our law enforcement to keep Douglas County safe. Well, a great group of endorsements to have, so, Priscilla, right now that the issues facing county commissioners across Colorado, what are some of the common denominators with Douglas County
and other parts of the state. Obviously property taxes. Beyond that, what do you think stands out? I think beyond that, well, we do have a new water commission because we cannot know we're growing and there's so much development. But water is one of the most critical components to developing a community and it is one of the most expensive parts that has These are one of the most expensive parts of building a home. So Douglas County actually doesn't have
a water plan. Everyone around us, Denver or Rapahoe County have a three hundred year water plan. Albert Lcastle all have a water plan. But right now we have a newly formed water commission. I'm so excited for them to present the county commissioners with their first ever water plan to make sure that our residents have access to safe, affordable drinking water for many many years to come. And to Priscilla run our guests and Priscilla tell people that website again if
you would, it's Priscilla for dougco dot com. And that is with the for Priscilla for dougto dot com. Now tell folks why because in a little bit about yourself and I know you and I know some of the great things you've done, but why Douglas County will be better off with you as County commissioner. Well, Douglas County is a conservative county. We are a red
county. All of our county elected officials are Republican. As you know, I am the former vice chair of the Colorado GOP, is elected twice, and I've been all around the state and I've just seen how important local politics is. We are closest to the people. We have the greatest impact on
everyone's lives. I know federal races and presidential races are shiny and exciting, but really, if you want to have impacts on your life, you have to pay attention who's running locally so that you can have a great relationship with your local officials. And so I'm running because I live in Douglas County. I want to keep it special. As Sheriff Weekly always says, it's a great place to be. We have low taxes. We want people to come
here and make Douglas County there forever home. But we've got to have some sensible policies and small government. And I just think one of the reasons Douglas County is so great is because there have been people like you who've served in different positions, and so I really hope Douglas County gets to benefit from you again. Priscilla appreciate the time today. Thank you so much, Dan, thank you you take care of that's Priscilla Ron And want to get back to
the conversation we've been having with Brian about the GOP chair in Colorado. If you've been out of town or you're new to the issue there at this point, I believe twelve different county gops that have voted to ask for the removal of Dave Williams as county chair over a number of different things that he's done. My personal belief, though I'm not an insider, so I don't know.
My personal belief is that there are many many people actively involved in the GOP way beyond these twelve counties who want to see Dave replace nothing personal. I'd like Dave personally. I've had him on the show at Tony won't come on on this issue, which I think tells you everything you need to know, but it involves a number of different actions by Dave. So Brian has
called up to challenge man that which I'm always grateful for. So we'll get back to Brian on that, but before we let me preface it with this, because if you're new to the issue, and I'm sure you've got a
busy life, so this isn't the only thing you're thinking about. In my mind, there is an absolutely critical starting point and that this act alone not only justifies but requires removal of Dave's party chair because what I believe, my opinion, is that Dave chose to put out a statement on behalf of the GOP that I believe was intended to echo one of the worst hate groups in America that calls itself Westboro Baptist Church, and it's a group that celebrates the
killing of American soldiers. It goes to their funerals and pickets and celebrates the killing of that soldier while the family is watching the casket be brought in. That's how evil they are, in my opinion. And so what I believe is that when Dave chose to post this picture to send out under Colorado GOP banner, this picture of what's supposed to be Jesus, I guess, with lasers coming out of his eyes and a Pride type flag behind it in the
word God Hates Flags. What I believe is that Dave was intending to echo the Westboro Baptist Church motto God Hates Fags. That insidious motto is even their web domain, god Hates Fags dot com. So my belief is that that's what Dave did here, And if I'm right, then I would think any reasonable person could agree that at that point Dave must go. Now we've invited Dave on the show, so we can ask him about this. Do I have that wrong? If so, what did you mean by God Hates flags?
And is it just a coincidence that it seems to echo the God Hates Fags from Westboro Baptist Church and then you also say God hates pride and that's also on the Westboro Baptist Church website. Is all this a coincidence, Dave? Or did you intend to echo them? So that's why this is such a critical starting point. Now, the last person to come on the show and want to defend Dave just said they'd never heard of Westboro Baptist Church so
they couldn't comment on this. To me, that's stunning. But I don't think anybody anybody should drive past this point. So when we come back, and we'll do it right after the break, I'm going to ask Brian to address this, and I'm going to ask Brian a simple question that I think fair minded Coloradden should ask themselves if if I'm right, and it's others saying the same thing, it's not just me who suspects this is what Dave was doing. If I'm right about that, can we all agree that in and
of itself, that act means Dave cannot continue his party chair. So we'll come back and we'll start with that with Brian. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. A lot of great text on the best how vice your father ever gave you. I love doing this segment before Father's Day, saying before Mother's Day, Dan, we
are dirt poor, hard working, willing to help anyone in need. Dan frequently reminded us that if we got in serious trouble, we were on our own because he could not afford to bail us out, and goes on to say about what a great influence that was on them. So Brian and Arvada, thank you for bringing in there. Brian and Brian's challenging my belief that Dave Williams needs to leave his county as a GOP chair in Colorado. So, Brian, if I'm correct, and many others have said the same thing,
because I think it's a pretty obvious point. And if Dave was intending to have the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church, they're insidious. God hates fag's motto when he posted and emailed to the GOP across the state, God hates flags. Would you agree at that point he cannot continue as party chair? Well, I can't agree on an assumption. You're making an assumption. I want to know about the content of what he said, about what he
said after that that you disagree with. Okay, here's what we're going to do, Brian, because I encountered this tactic that you're employing the other day with somebody who called to try to defend Dave and on this point, which is obviously indefensible, they just didn't want to discuss it, so they found a hundred different ways not to address it, including claiming they'd never heard of Westboro Baptist Church. So making an assumption so I can't address I'm asking you
a hypothetical. If in fact that's what Dave was doing, do you agree that he cannot continue his chair. Well, I have no reason to believe that he's involved in this church in any way. I mean, this is just I said. Dave Williams never said I'm glad that military people got killed. Knowledge that. Well, I'm not saying you're you're you're trying to you're trying to mix apples with oranges. No, no, no, no no. And what he's actually saying. What what I'm going to do is and
Brian's a regular colony does this. So I'm just going to put him on pause there. First of all, if you're new to this segment or if you weren't with us in the prior segment, I never said or suggested that
Dave Williams would celebrate the death of US soldiers, not at all. What I said is that I personally believe it's my opinion that when Dave decided to issue on behalf of the Colorado GOP this visual saying God hates flags, my personal belief is that he was intentionally echoing the insidious God Hates fags motto of Westboro Baptist Church and so we've invited Davon repeatedly to ask him whether that's what he was doing. And I I'm not the only person who believes he was
doing that. Many others believe that as well, and they've said so publicly. And if Dave is to say, oh, no, that's not what I intended, then, as Dave knows, we'd want to ask him, well, then what did you mean by God hates flags? And then how do you explain your other a post you made on behalf of Colorado GOP God
Hates Pride when that's also depicted on the Westboro Baptist Church website. So that's why we're talking about this because I would think any reasonable person would agree that if I'm correct, and if others are correct, that that's what Dave was doing, there's no way he could or should continue as party chair. That's why his defenders want to escape past this point and don't want to address it
now. Westboro Baptist Church is so hateful that, as I was pointing out earlier, this is an organization that celebrates the death of American soldiers and pickets that the funerals of American soldiers. And of course I know ever suggests that Dave would do either of those. But if in fact he was aligning the Colorado GOP with a group that's motto as God hates fags and pickets the funerals of American soldiers, can't we agree that in and of itself he should no
longer continue? So obviously I've asked Brian a fair hypothetical. If that's what Dave intended, can we agree that he should be gone? Now? I'll ask Brian again to address it, and if he won't, we'll just have a polite under the conversation. But what we cannot do when we're discussing an issue as weighty as this is allow Brian or anybody else attempting to defend Dave to just avoid this question. This question is at the heart of the issue.
So, Brian, I know you're not agreeing with the underlying assumption, But if it is true that Dave Williams, as party chair was echoing the message of Westboro Baptist Church, would you agree he should be gone at that point? Yes, if he agrees with all the views a Westborough church, I agree he should be gone. No, No, that's not like Brian. I'll put Brian on pause because again not trying to be rude, Brian does this all the time. That wasn't my question, and I'll go back
to Brian. My question wasn't if he agrees with all the views of Westboro Baptist. If Dave Williams as party chair was intending to echo the insidious God hates fag's motto of Westboro Baptist Church in this publication that he put out on bef of the colerad or GOP. Would you agree that he should be gone? And it's fine for you to say no, but I just want to know your position. Would you agree, Brian, if that's what he intended. Well, it's a big word, right, it's an assumption. Right,
Hey, have a great weekend, my friend. We love Brian, we hope he calls often. But see, this is what Dave's defenders are doing. And I think personally, this is why Dave, who's been on the show many times and he's been treated so well on the show, that's why Dave won't come on the show because he can't answer these fair, tough questions. And once it's established, and I think there are many people who agree with me that in my opinion, that's clearly what he was doing.
Once it's established, once somebody believes that that's what Dave was doing, then everybody would have to agree. He couldn't continue his chair. You can't have a party chair who is echoing that the hateful messaging of Westboro Baptist Church. So was Dave doing that? Obviously Brian doesn't want to give a direct answer to that hypothetical, but I hope Dave comes on. He says that those
who oppose him are weak and he's strong. Well, for twenty five years, this show has been the most friendly and fair place to Republicans of all stripes, and the track record shows that. So Dave being afraid to come on this show, how weak is that? Great job Brian Kelly as well. Have a tremendous Father's Day