Psychic Revelations: Raven Willow's Journey Beyond the Veil

>> John: M hello, my spooky friends. This is John, your host of Dairyland frights, the spooky podcast that covers everything paranormal, mysterious and creepy, not only in the midwest, but beyond. And the streak. I am so on a streak. I'm like undefeated, and I tend to keep it that way. I have a great guest with me, Raven Willow, on the podcast. She, graciously accepted to come out. She is a psychic in a medium, which we'll get

into a little bit more about her. But thank you so much, Raven, for coming on the podcast. >> Raven Willow: Thanks, John. This is amazing. This is going to be so much fun. >> John: Yeah, it's going to be fun. I love having mediums on. You guys have great stories, have great. >> Raven Willow: Set time of year. >> John: Yeah. And it's spooky time, which I'm sure is kind of like your Christmas, time.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah. Could it just be this season all year round? I would, yeah. >> John: Right. >> Raven Willow: The only holiday that matters to me is Samhain. Yeah. >> John: so one of the things, I always ask

mediums, because I'm always interested in, is like, how did you get into this? Like, how did you first discover you had a gift? If you want to call it that, you can call it something. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, well, it's a gift, but from a very, very, like, young age, I still remember dreams that I had as like a two year old. >> John: It's. >> Raven Willow: I'm. I'm very bizarre, but I saw spirits from a

very early age. And, like, when you're telling your mom there's a monster in the closet, there's a monster in the freaking closet. So. And the most prevalent thing that happened to me, other than just random spirits coming when I was very young, probably like nine or ten, my great grandmother had died and I knew her, but I didn't spend a lot of time with her because she had Alzheimer's and was being taken care of by people and all of those kinds

of things. So I knew who she was, but I just didn't spend a lot of time with her when she passed and I was just laying in my bed, you know, trying to fall asleep or whatever kids do, you know, disobey their parents. But there was this. All of a sudden, this, like, car massive cardboard box showed up, like, in the corner of my room, right by my bed. And she was in it and

her hair was like, sticking up out of it. And like, I just sat there in the corner of my bed with like, everything over me, even though I knew it was her, like, I was terrified, like, I was a young child. And, yeah, my mom is very gifted. My dad was very gifted, my grandma, but they also grew up with religion. Not to diss anybody that, whatever, do your own thing, but that kind of teaches you, like, this stuff isn't real. You don't dabble in that stuff. It's. It's dark,

it's, you know, whatever. So they kind of suppress their gifts. So it's basically in it alone. So this went on for, like, months, and she finally just disappeared. And after I, you know, became older and have gone on this journey and looking back on it, she didn't understand that she had died. And she's presenting herself in a box because she's in a coffin, and she's like, what happened to me? And she was asking for my help. But as a kid, you're like, what is. Why? Yeah, it was just terrifying.

>> John: Yeah, absolutely. Now, when did

you, A lot of mediums have told me. They've kept it secret from their parents, from their relatives, like you, like you said, from people. And, I can't think of a better word. And if you can, please tell me, when did you, like, come out? When did you finally just said, enough, I'm a medium. I can, you know, I, can see, I can hear, I can, you know, whatever you want to say. When did you finally say that?

>> Raven Willow: Like, everybody, I had to go through, like, a learning and growing process throughout life and, like, find your own voice and your self esteem and, you know, not getting bad relationships, like, empaths, especially, we attract negative people because they're, like, attracted to us like a

magnet. So I had to go through that learning experience, and then once I stepped out of that and was like, heck with that and the heck with this, you know, and just stepped into myself from that point on, I was like, nobody's going to tell me what to do or say or how to be, like, I'm just gonna be my, like, freaky self. And if you don't like it, then you don't have to be around me, so. >> John: Absolutely. And that's one thing that ties

into, something I always say. You gotta love yourself first before you love other people. I know it sounds corny and cliche, but it's true. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, you have to say you have to be selfish with yourself and that, but in that, in the end, ends up projecting love in a healthy way to yourself and everybody around you so that you can be of help to people. >> John: Yeah. Yes. And, like, I'm a super nerd. I'm a weirdo. I. I have extremely dark.

>> Raven Willow: Try that. Sleep. >> John: Like, I swag. >> Raven Willow: I love it. >> John: Love, it. I'll say things where people just go like this. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: And, like, my friends, my friends who have known me for a long time, they'll just like, he's kidding. Like, get a sense of humor. Like, he's joking. He's not gonna do that. and, you know, like, I'm fascinated with serial killers. Like, I'm, like, trying to figure out.

>> Raven Willow: Why they do what they do. Yeah. >> John: We have, we've had two, the heavyweights here in Wisconsin, where I live. Edge and. >> Raven Willow: Okay. >> John: You know what I mean? So we're big time. And, you know what's interesting to me is, and this is something I've always wanted to try to figure out. I would love to get all my psychic friends, because you're a spooky friend now. to go in Plainfield, where Ed Gein used to have his home, is now a barren

lot. The house burned down. They were going to try to make it into, of all things, Raven, a museum. I'm not kidding. >> Raven Willow: They were, don't bring people there and subject them to that. Yeah. >> John: But anyway, what I love to do is get all my medium and my psychic friends to come with me to that lot and see what they feel like. >> Raven Willow: I wouldn't be able to get anywhere near there. I would be, because I'm such a strong empath.

All of that negative energy is just overwhelming. Like, if I have to go to someone's house to, like, cleanse it or whatever, and it's, like, completely taken over by things, like, I'm just, like, puking and doubled overdose instantly. It has, like, a physical effect on me. So, yeah, wow. >> John: So let's talk about that. Let's get right into it. When people reach out to you and say, hey,

my, I don't know. My grandma died. Let's use grandma again. My grandma died. I was really close to her. I lived with her in the finer years of her life, and I want to tell her I love her. I didn't get the chance to. Maybe you were at work, maybe you're on a trip, whatever, and she died. And when people reach out to say that to you, what is, like, your first response to them being that you're such a strong empath and you're probably gonna feel like, you said, I would.

>> Raven Willow: Probably already see her and be, like, communicating with her. So in making them aware what my special gifts, whatever you want to call it, is helping other people unlock their gifts and then learn how to use them safely so that they're not, you know, hurt, but. >> Raven Willow: They probably have gifts. They just haven't like, acknowledged them for whatever reason.

So she's communicating with somebody she feels can hear her, but they've just tuned it out, whether they're afraid to go there or whatever the reason is. So they're not picking up on the message. >> John: Yeah. >> Raven Willow: And maybe they're just feeling her a little bit and like, oh, what is that? And like, really like shutting the door and like, I don't want to go there. >> John: So, yeah, so what

will you, so what would you do? So would you bring that person, meet them somewhere and be like, okay, I can do this for you, but I want to train you to do it so you can talk to her. Okay. How do you go about doing that? >> Raven Willow: Where do you, so we go through, I'm a Reiki master and like, energy psychology. So that's like tracing. >> John: Explain that to my spooky friends, please. With that

Reiki master. Yeah. >> Raven Willow: So Reiki is just clearing all of your chakras and clearing your energy and putting you in like a relaxed state so that it kind of trains your mind to learn how to meditate if you haven't gotten there yet. And it also trains your mind to go to that relaxed state instead of being in a stressed state a lot. And then it also unlocks you while you're, because you're laying on a table, you know, there's either sound bowls

playing or something going on. I had tuning forks for each chakra that opens them. You're opening yourself too. And I can, I'm, yeah, I pretty much say I'm in everything. So I could pretty much peel a person's mind apart like an onion and just see everything. So I'm tapping into their subconscious. I could see things that happen to them, what they're holding on to. So we're talking about it as we're going through it, and it can get really intense for people.

>> Raven Willow: So you have to be able to read that person. Like, I'm not here to like, cause somebody have like a mental breakdown. It's like, no, we're gonna stop now and let's drink some water and, you know, just adjust yourself and you're okay and you're safe. And so I'll bring them out of it because I don't, I don't want to have somebody to have like a mental collapse over anything, but, yeah, yeah. >> John: That, that's, that is amazing.

If you went into my mind, good luck. There's some weird stuff in there. >> Raven Willow: Well, I. Remote views, so we can do that too. >> John: Yeah, I better, I better clean my mind up here. Better get rid of all these stuff that I have in there. Might be weird. So have you ever, Have you ever been with a person and I don't know, you're trying to read them and

everything like that and you can't read them? Has that ever been up? >> Raven Willow: Yeah, yeah. If people just have too many walls up in their mind because of severe trauma or whatever it is, and you can even feel it. Because I'm an empath, I'm an energy reader, so I could even feel if their heart is blocked, I could tell if they're going to have a heart attack from something, like any illnesses that are going to come

up. So if people just have a ton of walls, like, bricked up mind because they just don't want to face it, you're not getting in there, so. >> John: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the key I've got from other mediums have told me, like, if you're not open, if you're not going to be open and you're going to fight back. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: There's no point to it. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: You would just move on.

>> Raven Willow: Right, right. I've had clients that I've had to, like, dismiss because they aren't doing healthy things to help their life, no matter how much I'm trying to tell them what's going on. Like, I kind of treat my clients like HIPAA, I don't talk about them, but her, like, I tried to read her mind while she was in a reiki session with me, and there was

nothing there. But then I moved to her heart and just put my hand over her heart, and she had literally created a PK manifestation in her heart. And I'm an artist, so I drew it out for her and I was like, you're either not believing me, don't think I'm worth my weight in salt, or not taking this seriously because this is going to kill you. And she just wouldn't get out of these patterns and things that she

was doing. So I'm like, I'm not going to do this anymore because you're just harming yourself and this is kind of pointless. >> John: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So a few questions before I get to them, though. How about telling me your first paranormal experience? Like, have you had any and when did

it happen? >> Raven Willow: Well, I've had them my whole life, so, and I'll just be like, walking somewhere, like, I love nature and go on hikes and all that stuff. Like, I live in Utah. It's a nature capital besides Colorado of the west. But I'll just be out walking and almost like, run into somebody and like, whoa, hey. And then they're gone. So it's everywhere, all around me all the time. I can sense the energy of the land and the people that are still

there. Like, especially native people. It's kind of my mission on earth to heal and restore the land. So I call them out to me and I tell them why I'm there. And we need to heal this place and bring in the elementals to heal the land and the creek and the things. And so I worked with them as well. Not just to, like, help them, but actually work with them. >> John: Yeah. >> Raven Willow: Ah.

>> John: And that's fascinating to me because I talked to another psychic who says, like, they have, like, a spirit guide. Like, they go in these. Yeah, they're from North Carolina. So in North Carolina, there's a lot of mysticism and a lot of beautiful places to go. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: And he talked about meeting his spirit guide and talking about how sad they were about the. The world and how the land's been treated. And he's absolutely like, yeah, I agree.

I'm trying to help. We're trying to help. >> Raven Willow: I have a ton of guides. You, like, pick up more and more guides as you go along. And I communicate with the universe too. So there's universal beings that are your guides. There's like, ex family members that are your guides. Like, both of my parents are with me, my grandparents, all that stuff. But, then just guides. And your guides have known you. If you don't believe in past lives, that's

cool. But they, they're with you throughout all of your lifetimes, so they're very familiar to you. You just have to awaken yourself to their presence again. >> John: Right. And, you know, one of the things, I'm, just reading your, website, by the way, my sweepie friends, I will put her website and all her links on the show notes so you can go and, you know, please help raven any way you can. Reaching out to her. She loves the help, I can tell already. And she, you know, it's a few

bucks here and there for peace, of mind. It's definitely, definitely worth it. So one of the things I always love, it says you have connections with all energies on earth and with all beings all over universe. So kind of talk a

little about that. What do you mean by that? >> Raven Willow: So I do akashic records reading as well. And it's a thing that you have to kind of get certified in. My teacher was actually, you know, like, an original from India, and I went through his certification, and you. They call them soul contracts. So you literally write your own soul contract for every life and put in there. And there's possible futures. Of course. You can make your future

whatever you want it to be. You can change the future. So knowing your story throughout the universe helps you adjust to this life and learn what you're supposed to do and why you're here and how you can help people and the things that are still impacting you. Yeah. If you think about your soul or your energy, whatever you want to call it, it's collecting knowledge and learning from all of those lifetimes, even past lives on earth, and it still retains

that. So you need to access that knowledge and understand what it means. >> John: And how do you do that? How do you go about doing that, other than years of practice and study and everything? >> Raven Willow: yeah. Akashic record reading. Like, you have to be able to remote view in the first place. So you ask and you have to be, like, in a good mental state, obviously, but you ask the masters of the Akashic records if you can enter, and then you have. I have to get somebody's full

name and date of birth. I ask for a picture of just their face showing their eyes. That's my thing. But you only need their. Their name and date of birth. And you tell the masters that information, and this is who I'm here for. This is what they want to know. This is what I'm asking for. This person, it presents itself differently for different people, but they'll bring me the information on, like,

scrolls or in books. I see it as a giant library because I'm kind of a history nerd, and so that's the way it presents itself to me. And then I. I look at it, I read it, but I'm also receiving, like, images in my head at the same time. I have a thing with pine cones. It's. It's from a universal past life, but pine cones present themselves to me, and I was just out on a hike, a walk, and somebody had built a spiral. I always walk the spiral because it's, like, cleansing your energy.

But I. They. People had left, like, crystals and just different things of offering in the. In the center, and that somebody had filled this pine. It's a real pine cone, but they had, like, filled it with, like, some kind of concrete or something, and I was. But it was, like, calling to me, like, loudly, and I was like, this is supposed to be mine, but I'm like, I can't take this. Like, I felt weird taking it, but I ended up being told, no, no, this is for

you. Like, so I took it, but then I brought some, some crystals back and, like, put something else in its place. But I literally hold on to that because pine cones are knowledge in the ancient world, if you study history at all. so I hold on to that, and I'm literally just like, writing with like, a sharpie, like pages and

pages of information. And then I put it all in a fancy PDF with, like, links and information for people to reference because I don't want them, forget what I said, I want them to be able to study and, like, have that material. So I put a lot of time into people's readings and making sure they're really professional and that they have reference material and. >> John: Yeah, yeah, that's

really interesting. I'm a, I'm a history nerd, too. Not to get off on a tangent, I would love to teach history, but I'd be one of those history, teachers where the kids would come home, be like, mister Ratke is a really weird guy. He loves it too much. He's like, I'd be like, dressed as George Washington. >> Raven Willow: I know. Anytime there's a history, anything, I'm like, where? Let's go. Let's go see it.

>> John: Yeah, yeah. And what people don't understand, and I explained this ad nauseam to all my coworkers and friends, is the things that happened 100, 200, a thousand years ago. We're doing the same damn thing. We're doing the same thing. Yeah, but it's just in a different context. Politics, money, war, relationship, on and on and on and on

and on. No one's going, yeah, you know, it's like, you have to learn if you've been in a bad relationship and you know those people where you might have a friend and they're dating that same guy or same girl or whoever, and you're like, don't you learn? Yeah, you're in the same negative relationship. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, those are people that don't, have a lot of self esteem and, you know, I've been there and been down that road. Yeah, yeah.

>> John: Speaking of that, has anyone ever come up to you and been like, raven, I'm so in love with so and so, you gotta make a love potion or something that I can attract that person. Has that ever happened? >> Raven Willow: Like, I've. I don't do things like that for people. Like, I do do spell work because, I mean, I've had a lot of past lives as witches and like, in hoodoo as a slave and different things. So it's ingrained in me. But I don't do things like that for people

because I want them to learn how to help themselves. And it's not fair to put influence on a situation like that, especially if the other person doesn't want it. Like, I don't interfere with people's lives like that. >> John: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's, I love, that's what all my mediums have said. They, they've all said, like, we're not here to, you know, it's not some cheesy movie where like, you know, you drink it. That's in the movies. And, have you ever met a person that

you feel is like true evil? Like, you bet. Whoa. >> Raven Willow: I've seen their faces entirely change and then boom. And step back. Yeah. Like,

their eyes go black and it's not their face anymore. And it's like, okay, here we go. Yeah. >> John: what. Without getting to too many details, but like, what happened? Did you something you did to change them or they changed what happened? >> Raven Willow: Yeah. Anybody that's just in that mindset, they're clearly not in control of their thought processes. They're and obviously been through a lot in life for whatever reason, but they're also carrying that energy from other

lives. So I just avoid, like, there's really nothing I can do to help that person unless they want to help themselves. And like, you're not going to get somebody like that that wants to be like, I want to sit here and introspect and like, look at myself. Just doesn't happen. So I'm like, I'm just like, I'm out of here. Like, no, not going there. Yeah. >> John: Yeah. So this is something that I always found really fascinating.

You read from time to time and you see from time to time, whether medium, whether whoever, and they meet someone and they're like, you're possessed by like ten demonstration. Have you ever come across something like that? I mean, I just got that a little. I don't know.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah, there's, I've come across to people with a lot of attachments and their home is infested and they're infested and it happens, sadly, it happens a lot when people like, people that have severe mental illness, like schizophrenia or whatever, or poor. People that get like drug addicted and you

know, obviously that takes you out of your normal state of mind. You're making yourself vulnerable and that's exactly what they want, and then you're just easy pickings to latch onto. >> John: Yeah, but people, from what I've heard, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you have to want to let the demon in. You have to bring them in. Is that true or is that not true? >> Raven Willow: I've found that that's not true. It's like

a predator and prey. So they're picking off the weakest of the herd and they just latch onto you. So, like, I just lost my mom last year. Like, I've been going through a lot. I've been attacked a couple of times and latched onto, and I have to fight to get that off of me and get it out of me and get it out of my house and get it away from me and put the bubbles around me and all of that. So it doesn't. It's not like, specific to

people. It's just they are looking for anybody that's in a vulnerable state. Just like a predator with prey. >> John: That's super interesting. And if someone was to reach out to you, and we kind of talked about they got to help themselves, you got to help them with everything. But let's say they're at like wits end. They're just at the end of their row. what would you do to help them?

>> Raven Willow: So I would definitely put them in a Reiki session, which we already talked about, and I would be, like, reading them and targeting those negative energies and helping them release them. But they have to release them. So I'm, working to help them, and I can pull them out, but they have to release them. >> Raven Willow: So they. It's like a recognition. >> John: Yeah. Right, right. >> Raven Willow: Yeah.

>> John: like we talked about, you got to love yourself first. You got to come to whatever, findings through meditation, Drew, maybe therapy. >> Raven Willow: Okay, sit down. There we go. >> John: No, we did not conjure the puppy, people. Rava did not conjure the puppy. It'd been pretty cool, though. She did. She's got some puppies there. We always love puppies. so let me ask you this.

What do you think? This is a big topic I've talked to other people about, just in general, free will. A lot of people have said there is no free will. Your life is determined. There's nothing you can do about it. Other people have said to a certain point, what is your belief on

just free will? >> Raven Willow: Just especially with doing akashic records, reading. You determine your future, so you can make your future whatever you want. But that doesn't mean that there's not those things that are trying to get in there and stop you, these negative entities. And the bigger you are within the universe, the more attention you're going to draw, and they're going to try to stop you. So they try to stop me from

healing the earth. They try to stop me from doing, going to places, and they'll make me really sick or, you know, whatever it is to try to prevent me from doing what I'm supposed to do. So you have to have that determination within yourself, like, no, I'm pressing on. We're getting this done. You're not standing in my way and just have that mind over matter. Like, no, this is me, and I'm going to do what I want and you're not going to stop me.

>> John: Yeah. Yeah. And that is something I think that's the hardest thing for people to do, right? >> Raven Willow: Yeah, it's, ah, very hard. Yeah, yeah. >> John: you don't know, deal with. So here's an example that I've told to my psychics and all my mediums I've had on the show. So a few years ago, my daughter was going through some stuff, okay. And what I noticed, there was dark energy in the house. Now, I'm not an empath. I'm not. I just could

tell there's something going on. And I was sitting downstairs watching tv, and right next to my ear, Raven, I heard a woman's voice call my name. She said, john. And I was like, okay, that's a little weird. And I was like. I looked around, there was. There was nobody there. Also, when I would, like, fall asleep downstairs, I felt some people were like. Was watching me. Right? Like I felt washed. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: Also in, the house, the energy was

very dark. Like I said, just things that were not right. Like, I would get into arguments with my kids a lot. things just tasted strange. All these other things, right. >> Raven Willow: I. >> John: And the biggest thing was, for me, was I was sleeping on my couch downstairs. And I don't know if you've done this or people have done this. You know when you're trying to wake somebody up and you might roll your fingers across their back or something like that,

or tap them? Yeah, that's exactly what happened. But I felt like nails, like a woman's nails digging into me. >> Raven Willow: And. Did you have a scratch? >> John: There was something. no, I did not. >> Raven Willow: Okay. >> John: however, it felt like it was trying to. And it couldn't. >> Raven Willow: Okay. >> John: And I. I was sitting there and something was telling me, don't turn around.

Do not turn around. So I just sat there and then I waited, and then I turned around, and it was gone. Now, my daughter, we got her some therapy. We worked through some things at the school and everything like that, and everything calmed down in the house. So if I was to tell you that, what would be your thoughts? What would you tell me? Like, what probably happened in that it was about a month. >> Raven Willow: yeah. And so adolescents can be really tricky.

Adolescents are the ones that do, like, bring up the most, like, pk manifestations, which turn into, like, poltergeist hauntings or craps flying around your house. So all the angst that they're going through in puberty and trying to figure out life, and then if they encounter something that has hurt them or traumatized them in any way, that adds on to it. So just that trying to figure life out and being in that kind of limbo and where do I fit into this? And,

like, it makes you a target. Like I said, they're looking for anybody that's vulnerable in any way, so. And, yes, there are people that invite these things into their life. Like, I can think of, like, Aleister Crowley. Like, he just went too far with his paranormal stuff and then got taken over by the dark side. Not to reference Star wars, but, yeah. So, there are people that actually invite this into their life, but most people are just being targeted,

but they don't know that they are. And, until it's too late, and it's like, oh, crap, we have a situation on our hands. So it's not anything that. That your kiddo did to invite it. They were just in a vulnerable position. And, you know, it was like, take the opportunity, and it did. >> John: Yeah. And I felt really good about it because I felt I was strong enough that it could never. Like I said, it tried to scratch me. Whatever it was, it couldn't.

When it was whispering in my earthen, it was. I felt like it was trying to pull me somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, trying to take me somewhere. And I didn't go. So I felt pretty good about that. So I gave myself a little pat on the back. >> Raven Willow: You're more of a medium than you think you are, so you should probably unlock your gifts because you already have them. >> John: Yes. And that's the second thing. what was really interesting to me, my mom, she passed away

about four years ago. I told this to the mediums, too, that I think my mom had a gift, too. And this is just me. So my mom would meet people, and she was not judgmental. She didn't see color. She didn't see, whatever. She just either. She liked you. She didn't kind of like, you know what I mean? Right. But she would. She was 100% right. She'd meet someone and

she would always be like, nope. She would shake their hand and be. >> Raven Willow: Like, yeah, I can read people in 5 seconds. >> John: Like, yeah, yeah, girlfriends, yeah, yeah, friends, you know, she was never wrong. And she passed the gift to me because I'll meet people and it will be like two magnets. Right. You know, yeah. Experiment you do, and it just. >> John: Tells each other, I meet somebody and just, bam, we're just clicking, and I meet other people, and it's like.

It's like we just. Nothing, no matter what I try to do, doesn't work. So, like, we were talking about, how would you tell someone like myself to unlock those gifts? Is there anything I can do? meditation study. What would you recommend? >> Raven Willow: I put people through quantum meditation, and that helps unlock the mind. And you can actually tap into your subconscious and feel those gifts and, like, accept them and acknowledge them. If you're

not acknowledging them, then they're just kind of staying dormant as soon as you start to acknowledge them. But then you have to instantly know how to protect yourself and put the barriers around you. And that's m my problem, all of that stuff. So I teach people that, like, instantly, like, that's the first thing you need to practice is, like, we start with an energy bubble between your hands because energy flows just like electricity.

So you could feel the energy pumping between your two palms, and you make an energy ball, and then you just start to expand it and put it around you and put it around your house and see how far you can stretch that with your mind. So when I. I call it unfurling because I'm. I'm a raven. That's. That's my animal. That's my totem. But I call it unfurling because I kind of unfurl my wings. So I literally have to. I call it stretching. I have to stretch. I have to, like, release and, like, stretch.

And I could feel my energy go clear across the valley because I live in the mountains, but, like, clear across the valley just, like, boom. In this big, like, wave. So. And I can feel the things that I'm pissing off as I, like, travel across the valley. So, that I just. I have a lot of. I have big energy, so I have to, like, stretch it out and let it, like.

>> John: Yeah, I love. I love that raven because I think what you're doing for is not only good, but also with your mental health, as well as you're helping people, as well as helping the earth, which needs a lot of help, in my opinion. But, it's so much the better for everything. Now, something I've been looking at your website here, which I find absolutely fascinating, by the way. Go to the website. She has some great articles on here and exercises. It is a cornucopia of great

stuff. I, absolutely love it. it's a big word I use there for you, Raven. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, we cover all topics. >> John: Yeah, all topics. Here's the thing. one of the articles, and please, I'm a mush mouth, so please help me out with pronunciation. the Syrians from a and b and c star constellation. did I pronounce that name right? >> Raven Willow: So it's Sirius is the constellation, and it's the brightest star in the sky

that we can see. So astronomers don't even recognize that there was a Sirius sea, but there is, and there was, and it's a portal system. And the oldest tribe in Africa, which is the Dugongs, they have it documented for thousands of years on cave drawings, this whole constellation with Sirius Sea. So I get in contact with that through, like, akashic records and just communicating with universal beings to get the story. And then I can astral project. So I actually go there and, like,

check it out. So. >> Raven Willow: M. Yeah, that's what I said. I'm in everything. You'll hear all kinds of weird stuff come out of my mouth, but I love it. Yeah. So knowing a lot of history helps, too, but, yeah. >> John: Okay, so here's my big question. I've interviewed, two alien abductees over the past couple weeks. One has a good view. What is a bad view? What is your view of aliens life on other planets? What is their

agenda? I mean, they must have an agenda. They must have something they want for most, good or bad or both. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. So it can be terrifying. Like, I'm very used to

them and all the different races of beings that are out there. So because I dug into my own story, I know all the systems that I came from, all the planets that I came from, and so I'm very used to them, and I communicate with them, and they're very helpful. They're very healing. They want you to succeed. They want, you know, obviously, to save the earth is their great mission. Earth needs to survive.

So if you can't tell by now, the earth is fighting back from all the damage that we've done with, like, crazy storms and fires, and you know, all of the things that are happening, so it's given its best fight back, but we. We need to help it. And so they're here to tell us how to help it and tell us how to help ourselves be better. And it can be very terrifying if you get abducted and you feel like, you know, something has been experimenting on

you. And, like, I, know a lot of women that have been pregnant, and then all of a sudden, they're not. And, like, my. My own child when I was married, which I'll never do again, but we'll go there later. She. I lost her very early. I didn't even have a concept that I was pregnant, but then I miscarried, and so I was, you know, all the symptoms of that. But she's a universal being, and that's where she was meant to be. So I understand that

perfectly. But if you don't have an understanding and you don't know why something is doing what they're doing and the greater purpose of it. Humans have a need to want to control everything, and if they can't have control, they want to, like, kill that. Whatever thing that's standing in their way. So. And they have a tendency to be afraid of things that they don't understand instead of trying to understand

it. So that's how I've helped abductees to try to understand why this happened to them and what the greater agenda was. And. >> John: Yeah, but what about. And, there has been proof of this, that aliens are here also? >> Raven Willow: Yeah, they're here. There are bad aliens, and I call it getting trapped in their device. They have a. They have a device. I've got articles on my website about them. They're called the draconians. They're a reptilian species.

But not all reptilians are negative.

Some of them are very helpful to people. So they have a device, and if you think about the tilt of earth, it moves and it shifts, but there should be, like, a sword down the center, keeping us centered, but it's tilted too far, and that's because of this device. So this device and these beings carry with them the tiniest anger, thought to, like, the worst thing you could think of, a human doing

all the chaos in the world. And because I'm such a strong empath, they take me out like that, and I've been locked in their device for days and had to fight my way out of it. So I'm lucky that I'm at least familiar with what that is and what they're trying to do. But it doesn't mean that it's easy for me to get out of. Like, they literally change your mindset, and, like, I will literally think I'm dying. I will think there's nothing here for me. Like, just the worst of the worst.

So it's. It's definitely not easy. And you have to fight it, you know, and learn to rise above it, whatever you want to call it. But, yeah. >> John: Yeah, because that's. If I was an alien, maybe I am. You don't know that. >> Raven Willow: Everybody is. >> John: Well, yeah. yes, that one, too, is interesting conversation. but that's the first thing you want to do. Take all the impasse out. >> Raven Willow: Take that.

>> John: you know, if I bad. I'm just talking bad if that's the first thing you. But I also think. And I love government conspiracies, by the way, so just stay with me a second. I'm not tinfoil hat raven. I'm not that degree. >> Raven Willow: That would be awesome. >> John: I'm not a flat earther. I'm not. Hi, puppy. I'm not, anything like that. But I do believe that the government is doing some things that, Okay, maybe shouldn't be doing. Like mkultra.

That was a big one. That came out to be true, as well as other mind control things. But my main point would be, is I think the government would work. And this is. This is, You can go with truth or not. Where, with, I believe it was Eisenhower. I always screw this up. Where Eisenhower met with an alien. I can't remember. Yeah, I believe it was Eisenhower. Yeah. Okay. Met with an alien, a, Gray. And basically, they made a deal, and I can't remember the treaty name, but that is. Yes, you know,

that's so true. But there are bases out there. Area 51, Dolce base, all these other places. Not to get off on this sidetrack, but, you know, to me, that's what I would do as the government. I'd be like, okay, these empaths know too much, so we got to figure out a way to do it. Do you think at all that sometimes the government is, like, trying to do something not only to you, but other impasse around the world? Kind of like, I don't, discredit

you. Look like you're a fake. Right? Make you look like you're a fake. >> Raven Willow: That's what they do. >> John: Yeah, it's. >> Raven Willow: If anybody has Gaia, the app, and other places, you can watch this, too, but start with the show unacknowledged. Doctor Steven Greer, like, he has all kinds of classified documents that he's gotten that literally show it and prove it. And

it's. That's the sucky part about being a history nerd is I just know too much about our government and the things that they've done, so. And I know, like, the truth about things, so I'm not a big fan of our government. They're just dirty dogs that make war for money and, you know, use people as pawns and, you know, it's. It's just not cool. I'm not proud of my country very much. I don't like that kind of thing. >> John: But it's not only us, it's other governments, too, you know?

>> Raven Willow: Yeah, definitely. >> John: They're doing the same thing. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: They're all together. >> Raven Willow: Yes. It's a, collective. >> John: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, there's all this stuff put out there of all these groups meeting at certain times and discussing certain things. yeah, but they're bigger. They're bigger things. They're not, to me, they're not like the price of your bread. To

a certain extent, yes. You know, you go to the grocery store. Why are the grocery store prices high? To a certain extent, yes and no. I mean, but I'm talking about. >> Raven Willow: There is definitely a system to set up people to fail. And it is a fact, that our government infested,

like, the black panthers with heroin, our government infested all the ghettos with crackhead. They did that. So, absolutely. Those things are. It's not fair. It's not fair to the people. It's just not cool. It, like, and anybody that lives a life like that and plays those games with people, like, you know, they're not living a good life. You can't be, like, happy and fulfilled and feel peaceful when you're doing those kinds of things.

>> John: Absolutely. And I. And I think, one of the things is I always say that you guys are brave, to do the things you're doing. Just come out there. But let's be honest, a lot of people will not believe you, which is sad. >> Raven Willow: That's fine. But people aren't ready yet, and that's cool. >> John: I love it. the only time I push back on mediums is. Is sometimes life is so random, and I, you know, we're not gonna. This could be a whole new podcast, but, like,

random things have happened in my life. Just completely random, just out of the blue. I don't know what it was. I, tell, the last video I talked to for about three years, Raven, my life was completely. Shit. I mean, everything that could go wrong went wrong. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: I wasn't doing anything different. I felt. I wasn't feeling negative. I wasn't. I mean, things like, I lost my job. I, got released. I got Covid. I got into a car accident.

I, nearly got divorced. my kids hated me for some strange reason. Just one. Bam, bam. I'm just. And I'm like, what? I mean, like, what is going on? I'm not. It's not like I'm sitting out there, like, murdering people or, like, doing terrible things. And I remember one time I just broke down and I cried and I said, why all these terrible things happening to me? Why is this happening to me? Yeah, I have no idea. I have no idea. And people know me. I'm a very positive person. I'm also a realist. to

a certain point. I'm not like, hey, happy days, rainbows and unicorns, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, okay, we can get through this. I'm a survivor. That's one thing I feel I do better than a lot of people is I'm a survivor. Like, I've been through a lot of shit and I've survived. I've come through the other end. Right? Yeah, but it's fascinating to me, right? It's like, you talked about future and how you can make it your best, and I'm like, great.

>> Raven Willow: But, you know, like, they try to take you out of that mindset so that you can't do that. And also, I mean, yes, you make your futures, but the universe is going to do its best to try to remind you of who you are and what you should be doing. So sometimes you need to burn down the house to rebuild it. so sometimes unfortunate events are trying to make you aware and you need to rebuild.

So, you have to be, like, present and paying attention to those things and kind of acknowledge it, which it's hard to do when you're going through just a crap storm of. And you're just like, make it stop, man. What the hell? Yeah. >> John: Yeah, right? I love that. That's brilliant, Raven. That's something I will remember, because that's something, I think, too, not getting too much into mental health, but mental health is very important to me,

because I've lost people to suicide. And everything I've talked about in the. >> Raven Willow: Podcast and see, as a medium, that's what I. That's for whatever reason, I mean, I get other random spirits, too, but I get suicides. So whether people want to think I'm crazy or not. Like, I got Chester Bennington. That was a very hard one. He had a lot of pain. I got a trans girl that lived in the valley here that literally,

like, hid in a bush and stepped out on the highway in front of a dump truck, gone 60 miles an hour, and, like, blew herself apart to kill herself. I mean, these are people in extreme, extreme pain. And for whatever reason, that's what I get the most up as a medium. >> John: So, yeah, that's rough. and it's interesting, when my friend committed suicide, he was in a ton of pain. He had just all these mental health things going on, and he tried everything. He

literally tried everything. And my friends and I, we would argue about, you know, that we felt it wasn't fair. He did this. And I kept telling him, it's not about us, man. It's about him. And I tried my best, and I cried, and I went through a deep emotion. And I didn't go to the psychic, but the mother of my friend, she went, and the psychic was like, I know this is really hard. I know this is really hard to deal with, but he was going through a lot of pain, and you know,

that. And she kind of settled, you know, her, the mom down and everything, because she was just looking for Anders. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: What do you do when people come to you like that, like myself, who have seen a loved one and they committed suicide, and you're like, how do I. How do I handle this? Right. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: You know what I mean? How do you do that?

>> Raven Willow: So I obviously open communication with that spirit, that person, and relay that communication to those people. And you have to be very blunt, no matter what it is, and you have to be truthful and just put it out there. So whether you're afraid of being believed or they're not going to receive it, well, because that's the information they need

to hear. It's tough information, and you need to put it gently and explain this person's story and what they went through and why they just didn't want to be here anymore. And it's. It's not a sin, and they're not going to hell. You know, these are people that went through a lot of pain, and they can get trapped in that pain and trapped here in that pain. And so you have to help them, move

on to. And move on to their next life, the next thing, and not get stuck on it and still live in that pain, because that can be just like people that are still living that are suicidal. They get trapped in that pain, and you have to help them release that and understand that you can move on and you don't have to be stuck here. >> John: Yeah. I love that. Have you ever worked on any paranormal investigation teams, or do you work on it any present?

>> Raven Willow: No, I. I don't really like what they do because they just go in and stir the pot and make things worse. And as a medium, I'm here to clean shit up and not leave it like that. So I don't. I like the paranormal teams. If you've ever watched, like, Amy Bruni and Adam what's his bucket?

I can't remember his last name. But they actually go in and heal the place and help the people move on and communicate with them and find out what's going on and who you are and why are you still here and get those

answers. Instead of, like, most paranormal teams, they just come in with all their gear and see how much crap they can stir up to get it on video and then leave the place. Like, you're not helping anything at all. You're making it worse. >> John: Interesting. That's interesting to me. That would be, something like we talked about. I loved it. Like I said, have you on the roundtable, because I do have, a medium who is part of an investigation, team. And I'm curious what she would

say. That'd be a fun, fun discussion. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, I would love that. >> John: I agree with you. I agree with you. And I agree with her what she's doing. I think she's doing it in the right way. Like you said, she's trying to help, trying to make this place better rather than. Yeah, let's get the demon out of the closet. Take a picture of it. >> Raven Willow: Right, right. It's like, let's see how much crap we could

stir up just for content. And then they leave, and it's like you just, like, made everything ten times worse. And the poor people, spirits that are stuck there now, they're tormented. Like, good going, you know, what the heck? Yeah. >> John: Yeah. That's. That's why I'm, One of the topics, we discussed is ed. Ah, well, two topics. one is Ed and Lorraine Warren. Come on. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: I mean, people, they're total fakes. And I don't know why people just.

>> Raven Willow: I mean, they made a lot of money off of other people and never gave them a dime. Yeah, right. >> John: They're terrible people. And I think. I think Lorraine Warren, I think she got sucked into it. Maybe this is me. I think she got sucked into it. And she was like, at first I want to help people, and then I'm making a lot of money by saying there's all these demons running around and. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, right. Yeah, I know their son, John Zappos, and

he's a good guy and actually tries to help, so, you know, he didn't go down that path. He does have, a place where he stores haunted items just like they did, but it's not for display and it's not for the public. It's literally to keep people safe. So he has a totally different mindset than his parents did. >> John: Yeah, I love that. That's something we can discuss later. The other one is the satanic panic. that one. Unbelievable how that happened.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah, that whole was just a witch hunt. And, yeah, it got, like, three young boys. If you've ever read or watched a show on the west Memphis three, they were different. They listened to metal. They, these hicks and Arkansas couldn't understand these boys. And so it's like, just blame it on them. And it's like, what is wrong with you? Like, and then they brought it up in court, and I'm like, how is this even admissible in court? Like, what? What are you talking about? Yeah,

yeah, right. And true satanists, by the way, don't have anything to do with any of that. They acknowledge Lucifer and they believe that he was God's son, but wanted to make sure that everybody was saved instead of God's plan. And so they aren't even like that. So they're a little off when you talk to them, you're like. And m you could kind of feel it because they do border, like, right there on the dark side and have to be careful. But they don't, even. They

don't do any of that crap. They're out butchering cats in the woods and crap. >> John: Yeah. >> Raven Willow: Like, this is evil people doing evil things. >> John: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's, it's, yeah. And I I had a satanist, a long time ago, and she was the sweetest person ever. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: She, actually, Lilith was one of her personal. >> Raven Willow: I've seen Lilith a couple times. Yeah.

>> John: Okay. Yeah. So it depends how you. But she was never like, oh, you know, I'm doing this, you know, I'm doing that, blah, blah, blah. No, she's just like, she said I was strange, I was weird. She was in the Netherlands, by the way. I believe she's in Finland or Norway. I can't, ah, remember which one. But anyway, she's scandinavian, and she talked about how she felt weird and strange. And then when she started to do this and do it in, I guess the right way, for lack of a better

word, she felt stronger. She. And now she's a mom. She's got a kid, she's married, and she has a very nice life, and she's a very nice woman. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: So there you go. >> Raven Willow: Every satanist I've. I've been around, they're just like super mellow, super chill, like the nicest people ever. It's not at all the way all of that was depicted at all. Yeah, yeah.

>> John: And like you said, some might throw you a little bit of a curveball, and you might be like, Okay. >> Raven Willow: Right? Yeah, but that's okay. They're just doing their thing. >> John: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So one of the things, too, just really quick, quickly, before we wrap up here, we're not going to go through every one because there's 32 of them, but, like, the 32 sacred symbols. >> Raven Willow: Yeah,

>> John: That's really interesting to me. Can you guys do. >> Raven Willow: Or. >> John: This is why I'll have to have you back on, because I get to have the things I wanted to get to. but, like, 32 sacred symbols? What do you mean by that? I'm just kind of curious because symbols are very interesting to a lot of people.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah. And those are symbols that are literally, like, in pictographs and cave paintings, drawings, sketchings, whatever, they're all over the world. So people need to understand that our ancient world was not on technology. Like, they were very

technological. They were very high advanced. They knew about all of these things and how to make them work. The great pyramid is a power center. The queen's chamber lines up to Sirius, the star constellation. Like, yes, it's lined up to Orion's belt. But there are hotspots all around the world, and they're connected by ley lines. So you have to understand all of that. And if you start to put all of these symbols together, it can look like Metatron's cube, which is all of the

sacred geometry symbols. And I call on Metatron a lot to wrap his cube around me when I feel like I'm being attacked or I'm in danger or whatever it is. So they could definitely be used to your advantage. And they make frequencies, they open portals. So to know what each symbol does and what it means is a great benefit to people. >> John: Yeah. And I. And I love that because that's. We all see symbols, we all see signs in our life that, make us feel better. Or sometimes like I'm a little

superstitious. Not that I'm like, super superstitious, but I'm like, you know, like, I have a black dog, and I'm not supposed to have a black dog. It's fine, you know, we're good. We have two black cats. We're too, you know, good. >> Raven Willow: I love kitty cats. >> John: Don't step on a crack. Don't step on a crack and freak out. You know what I mean? But I am, I am superstitious about certain things. About time. >> Raven Willow: Yeah.

>> John: Let me ask you this. Why do you think I'm superstitious about time? When I see the number 13, it makes me feel a little weird. Like when I see, like, 113, I've. >> Raven Willow: Got it on my arms. >> John: Why do you think I feel that way? Why do you think I feel that way? >> Raven Willow: You probably have time slips. And that's where you get transported to another place in time. And I have them all the time, too. And when I come back in my body, I'm very

disoriented. And like, where am I? And it takes a while to like, okay, now I'm back home. And it kind of shakes you up when you're not used to it. But if you're going through time slips, especially when you're dreaming, that's when it happens a lot. Because your mind is more relaxed, it can really disarm you, so you might have an aversion to time. >> John: Yeah, that's, that's, I love that. Because you know why I hate watches? People buy me watches. I

can't wear watch. Seriously, ravenous people bought me Christmas gifts, really nice watches. Right? Because when I was, I'm in sales, but anyway, sales. And you know, my mom would buy me a watch. my buddies bought me a really nice watch. I'm ah, like, no, take it back. And they're like, yeah, hi. Don't you like it? I'm like, no, I cannot wear watches. Just cannot. I put a watch on, it freaks me out. I just can't do it. >> Raven Willow: Do you remember your dreams?

>> John: sometimes. I did have a dream really quickly that I totally remember to this day. And, I talked to a sleep paralysis expert, and she was saying, sleep paralysis? That's really interesting. yeah, so, Willie, shaking everything off of me. >> Raven Willow: No barking. I'm squirtsy in the butt. You too? Sorry, I got three crazy critters going on here. >> John: Oh, that's all right. That this makes it more fun. People think we have, a little, like, zoo

going on or something. but anyway, my dream I had was that I was sleeping, and then I was like, paralyzed. And when I turned around, I saw this black mist lowering

on top of me and Laura. Hm. A guy. I could see a face of, like, this haggard woman. Like, you know, the standard old kind of cliche, haggard witch, you know? And whatever I did was, this is. Was. To this day, I don't know how this happened, but I used all my strength, and I turned on the side before she could fully lower herself. And when I turned to the side, raven, I started speaking Latin. I don't know Latin. I've never really been, I've seen it, but whatever. But I was,

like, dominated. Like, this weird thing. And when I said that, like, a shockwave came out of my body and I heard, swear to God, or whatever you want to say, like, someone falling in the kitchen, like, you know how you would trip and you hear this boo boo boo boo boo boo. >> Raven Willow: Yeah, yeah. >> John: And I heard that. Right? So, my wife, who hears a mouse fart, was not awakened. She kept sleeping through it. I did the dumb horror movie cliche.

I got up and went to the kitchen. In the middle of the kitchen, this is around Halloween time, in the middle of the kitchen was a doll of a witch that my wife had picked up at a, like a St. like a goodwill. We call it St. Vincent's here. In other words, whatever. Thrift shop. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: And ever since that was in the house, I always felt was weird, like there's something off. But anyway, it was in the middle of, like, it had been throwing.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah, right. Yeah. >> John: In any way. I was like, I'm not touching it. I just came near it and I said, I'm not touching it. I'm not. I'm not gonna do anything. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: And here's the weird thing out of all this is I talked to my wife about it, and she's like, yeah, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't feel you. You know, whatever. I don't know what's going on, but to this day, my wife

won't put that witchen down. Up. every Halloween we decorate, I would. >> Raven Willow: Get it out of your house completely. I wouldn't even own that thing anymore. >> John: I'll ask her. So do you think there was something. Do you really believe there was something in there that caused this? It was just. >> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: Really?

>> Raven Willow: Yeah, yeah. And there's, like, even the Romans that wanted to act like, they were so much better than the, these savages that they went after in Europe, these tribes and everything. They would have, like, lead boxes that they would put curses into and bury them to try to bring the downfall of these people. So curses are very real, and objects could definitely be haunted and have something injected into them.

And anything can hold energy because everything has energy, right? >> John: Yeah, absolutely. Wow, this is, Boy, I could talk to you for hours, raven, I wish you. >> Raven Willow: I know. We need to do this again. Got to talk some more. >> John: This is. Yeah, I love this. I even got into half the things I

wanted to get to. and like I said, that roundtable I'll definitely share with you because I'd love to have you on that and love your opinion on different things, but please tell my spooky friends what you got coming up. Tell me about, tell them about their site. Like, how much does it cost to have a reading with you? How do they do that? All that great stuff, if you could tell them. >> Raven Willow: So it's listed on my site. It's $200. And

if people are like, why is this so expensive? I spend a lot of time on my readings and make sure that you have, like, a nice, fancy PDF and things you can reference. I'm just not spewing things out and then you forget later. I put a lot of work and effort into it to make it very professional and all of that stuff. So it's $200,

and that's pretty much the price. Reiki sessions are different. Those are $60, but those are live. I could also do them online because I can remote view, but most people like Reiki sessions to be, like, in person, like, one on one, and, like, feel that person clearing them and stuff. I could do quad. I could do anything remotely. So, like, there are some things that people just prefer live in front of you, but, yeah, and I get all of everything about you before I even meet the person,

before I even talk to them. And I have their complete reading done before we've even spoken a word, or I've, like, I asked for one little picture of them because it's just my thing. I need to see people's faces. I want to see their eyes. So I asked for nothing in the background. I don't want to see what your house looks like. I, don't want to see who's standing with you. Just, like, center in on your face. And so it's all done before I even talk to them. >> John: I love that.

>> Raven Willow: Yeah. >> John: Also, I see you have some art that is very interesting. And I love it. how, how do you go about doing that? It's just something you just paint and just put out there just for whatever reason. >> Raven Willow: Like, sadly, it's a lot more sacred, feminine. All of my art, I do draw men sometimes, but they're more like Native Americans or tribal people from Africa, you know, people that are, like, connected with the earth and the things.

So not to, like, bash men, but you're kind of uninteresting on the emotional level. you don't go very deep, most men, so it's kind of boring to paint. So a lot of it's like mother nature and those kind of things that I paint, but it's, it's all, like, earthy and spiritual. And I don't have any training in art, so it's just like,

there. It's obviously from another life that I have this skill. But, yeah, I love it. >> John: It's beautiful. The gorgeous paintings, it's raw. And that's what I don't know. To me, that's what art should be. It shouldn't be like, manufactured and market. yeah, that's a whole different, that's a whole nother podcast. I got a whole bunch of podcasts I'm doing here. >> Raven Willow: I guess when, people buy my pieces, like, I infuse them with, like, good energy

to bring your house up. and like, yeah, I love it. >> John: and when this episode comes out, if you can infuse it with good energy and stuff so I can reach as many people as I can. Yeah, it gets you out. get your name out. I would love that, too. So thank you so much. I love seeing your puppies, as well as I love your attitude, Raven. You know, I definitely want to have you on again because like I said, I haven't got half the stuff, but we'll talk about the round table.

Speaking of roundtables. So what I'm going to be doing here in structo Burr really quickly, is I'm going to have roundtable, have a live round table where they're going to have a. I'm first going to have some paranormal investigators, and I'm going to have some couples on, and we're going to have some fun with that. And them talking. They're all over the United States, and they're going to be in Canada. They're going to talk about their

experiences. Then my second roundtable I want to have is with mediums at empaths, and I want them to talk about, again, we're going to talk about different things. And maybe if I can convince them m one of them, to maybe do a reading on me or maybe we can figure something out, you know, to help me get my skills out. I think that'd be a lot of fun to do if I can convince them to do that. If not, I'm not worried about it because we have

so much other things we can talk about. And then also I'm going to do some other roundtables that I haven't come up with yet because I really want people to understand that not only is everyone I have on this show, which are, all my friends now, they are great people

and they're here to help and they're willing to help any way they can. And it costs $200. Hey, good luck, you know, trying to find someone to do that for you, what Raven can do. Yeah, they'll probably take your money. I don't want to be all bad about other people, but, I know Raven's going to do everything she can to try to help you. and to me, that's what we need to do too. And not only make, yourself better, but also make this world better so we all can

enjoy it. So anything else to add, Raven, before we, wrap it up here? >> Raven Willow: Just stay positive and go search yourself and introspect because it's just so necessary for you to put yourself first so that you can actually help other people. So that's just a really important lesson for people to learn. >> John: Yeah, I love that. Yeah. You know, just be kind, you know? >> John: Yeah, kind to one. Because at the end of the day.

>> Raven Willow: You never know what somebody's going through. You just never know. Yeah. >> John: Yeah, you never know. And you know, again, reach out to that person, help that person you can anyway you any way you can. and if not, refer them to Raven or therapist or somebody else to try to get a good mental attitude because we all benefit in the end. So Raven, thank you so much. This has just blown my

mind. it's been amazing and I'm, like I said, I'm so blessed to have you on my podcast and like I said, I will follow up later and hopefully. >> Raven Willow: Thanks. this is going to be awesome. >> John: All right, thanks, Raven. Say hi to the puppies too. Bye bye. Out. >> Raven Willow: Bye, guys.