>> John: Hi, this is John, your host of Dairyland Fright'the, paranormal podcast that covers everything spooky, creepy and mysterious in the westest and Beyond. And tonight, Toy, what a great way to start out 2025. One of my favorite people in the world. You know her, you love her. Debra from Paranormal Paradigma, on the podcast. Yay. >> Deborah Roque: Yay. Thank you so much for that enthusiastic welcome and introduction. I really appreciate it.
>> John: Absoluteutely. Every time I see Deborah, I smile because she makes me smile. And that's a good thing. >> Deborah Roque: Ye. >> John: That's awesome thing. So obviously we talked offline. You had really nice holidays, which love that. But tell me about, you know, with Paranormal Paradigma, what you're working on, what you've been working on, what you're thinking on working on. So we can share that with my SUI friends.
>> Deborah Roque: Yeah, well, since the last time that I went on, a few things have developed and I've sort of pivoted because I somehow in some way entered into medium abilities over the summer. So it was a very unexpected situation event, but it happened. And, this was what, maybe late June? June, July, July. It was July of last year that I just started kind of exploring how to tap into these things. And lo and behold, I
did. And ever since, maybe August, no, I would say October, I've been giving medium readings to people. So they started off for free. I was giving free medium readings, to people because, you know, I don't know what the heck I was doing. I was just trying to see how this would show up. And then from there, now I'm doing like, pay what you can reading. So, you know, they're not supposed to be anything that breaks the bank.
This should be affordable for anybody. Sort of just like, pay what you can afford, pay what you feel you got value for. And so that's what I've been doing. And I'm still doing tarot reading and kind of just diving deeper into my abilities and pushing myself and seeing how far I can go, because it's very new for me. And I've also noticed that it's just my method of doing readings is really different from a lot of standard mediums. And so that's also something that
I'm contending with. Yeah, it's just. It's been weird for me because from what I've seen mediums do and experiences that I've had with certain people who are sensitive and things, it's, not the way I do it. And so it's been a little strange. But, you know, I'M getting used to it. I've gotten used to it and I've just been contending a lot with like, how is this even possible and how am I doing this? But that's also because I'm, you know, a logical human. The brain
does what the brain does. But other than that, it's been great. >> John: Yes, you are logical and that's what we love about you. Again, you know, this is why I have debah on as many times as I can, because she brings so much to, not only's podcasts. So people who listen to this, by the way, Deborah, I want to give you an award. I don't have an award on me, but I will give it to you. Our Puck Wedgie episode was one of the best in 2024 most downloaded
episodes. Yayay. >> Deborah Roque: That is so exciting. >> John: Yes, it was. >> Deborah Roque: I love that. >> John: I, love that too, because it's scares the ever living crap out of me if I ever met one. Yeah, I was, I was re editing it, Deborah, and I was listening to it and while they push off a cliff and then they could like, you know, change and transform and then they could do all that stuff and I'm like, dam. I forgot that. That's scary.
Yeah, they're badasses. Like, whatever. If you see one run the other way. Like, don't even be 100. That little kid. Well, that little kid's kind of ugly. I'm still going to help it. No, zip, zipip. You know, don't even engage. Just run as fast as you can the other way. but anyway, yes, one of our most downloaded episodes. I love that episode. Y and yes, I'd love to have on again, have talk more Cryptids again. That is something I want to do
for 2025. because our cryptid episodes, Windigo, Puck Wedgie, Michigan, Dog man, all those did really well. Some, of our most downloaded episodes, so. And especially the Windigo. I would like to do a little bit more, depth into the Windigo because that is really. That's crazy. That's like the Puck Wedgie, very dangerous, very evil. something you don't want to mess with. So yes, I will send you the award when I figure what that meansome.
So yes, thank you so much. And yes, that's's something I like I said I always look forward to having you on because we always have a great episode tonight. Folks, we have great news for you. Deborah's going toa try to do a reading on me now. She's Already brought, a caveat and some warnings that some things might come out that may not be for public consumption.
So either this episode isnna be really short and I'll have to, like, fill it with something else and probably have to call Deborah back and say, Deborah, let's figure this out, or I'm just going to brave the storm and put it out there. And, you know, I don't know. Deborah does not know. But before we get to that reading, Deb'debah will explain that too.
But before we get to that, I wanted to ask Deborah some questions because I've had a number of mediums on, by the way, just to let you know, I'm gonna do another round table of mediums again because that went really well. We did a live talk with some mediums that I had on the show, and that went really well. We had a lot of questions that I never got to. And it was really interesting because everyone of the mediums that I had on, if you go back and listen to the episode, they all have
different powers. Some are like, can astral project? Some talk. I can, like, talk to pets, some can talk to ghosts, some could talk. And it's just really cool. And that's something this year I'd like to do more of. So I will invite Deborah, along with some other my medium friends, on to kind of talk about how their gifts vary and change. And one of the things before I get to the questions, just remember three things.
People, when you're talking to a medium, understand this is not something where they snap their fingers as just happens. It takes a little time and sometimes it may not work. The other thing is you have to be open. If you are closed off, it's not gonna work. And also know, like, maybe tonight there might be some information that will come across that you may not particularly like or
have to deal with. And I don't know because I know a lot of people deal with, unfortunately, loved ones and want to find out what they're doing and how they feel and tell them how much they love them. And that's a tricky. I don't know, it's very tricky. And one thing before I got on the podcast here, in the episode, I was telling Deborah I had a, medium on, and she was talking. She'with grief. So she focuses on grief, specializes in that.
And she was talking to me about my mom, and it was getting kind of personal. And after the show, she reached out to me and she said, your mom reached me, was talking to me. Why you were Talking about her. And she said, she's okay. Everything's good. Everything's fine. And she said to me, was that would. That what your mom would say? You know, because it's kind of like your mom'is like, you know, not leave me alone, but kind of like, hey,
I'm good. You don't have to worry about me. And I said, that's exactly what my mom would say. Exactly. And it just blew me away. Deborah and my spooky friends out there, it just blew me away because I was like. It happened during the session. I mean, during the episode. Excuse me. we were not doing a reading. We were just talking. And when we were talking about my mom, that's what came up. So during our session here, reading, I don't know what's gonna happen.
Maybe Debah, since she just got her gifts, maybe something comes through, maybe something doesn't. So there we go. Just kind of wanted to explain a little bit about that. So I said, before we get the readings, I wanted to know a couple things. Maybe you can kind of, I don't know. Answer. Or maybe you're like, I don't know. And if you don't know, Debah, please say, I don't know. I don't want to put anyd in a position like you. >> Deborah Roque: yah.
>> John: I don't want tell anybody. That's not true. So one of the questions I want to ask you, you talked about your medium mobilities just kind of came to you over the summer and. Right, but I have a lot of people ask. I got questions during that roundtable. Is there anything you did differently or how can someone like myself learn how to develop medium abilities? What would you say to that?
>> Deborah Roque: Well, I mean, I'm of this school of thought that any person that has a brain can develop median abilities. Because essentially the brain is the receiver. Right? M. And so in order to tap into this. This is why spirituality has become such a big thing. Because one of the promises of spirituality is to sort of open yourself up to these experiences. Open your. Your, pineal gland, open, you
know, your mind, basically. And as. As you open your mind and you grow and you expand, you're able to heal and receive messages, presumably from the other side. And so that's what, like, basically the. The premise that I kind of went with when I started messing around with stuff. so how did it come to me? It's not like, for a while, I know I've known that I'm sensitive. So for a long time I started working On.
Well, for those of you who don't know, for a long time I was an atheist and I was a non believer, totally objective and materialist in my framework and my mindset. So like, for me needed to be scientific and evidence based and the burden of proof needed to be there, like all that. however, I had an experience that, that just kind of made me turn and pivot and kind of question what reality was and how things can manifest and how I can experience things, and it not make any sense
logically. So went down the spiritual path and started developing my skills via tarot. So I just, I started using tarot and then doing a bunch of research, which is what I did eight years. Now I'm in year nine. I've been reading tarot for now, nine years. And as you read tarot and as you research the more spiritual aspects of life, I guess, you know, through texts and your own experiences, you
know, you learn a thing or two. and I kind of just kept leaning into the curiosity and into this unknown and into this sort of like these questions that I kept having. and as I did so, I was healing. So a lot of internal healing, a lot of, like release a lot of, you know, balancing out energies, masculine and feminine energies, healing internal feminine wounds or masculine wounds, like people tend to have, like, you know, things that you're taught in
spirituality, learning how to meditate, blah. Bl. So started with that. The tarot was really good because it helped me learn a lot about the different types of energies that are present, the archetypes that are present. And then it kind of helped me hone in on my own feelings and my intuition. Then from there I just felt more sensitive. I started getting bodily sensations that I would understand were like my guides. Like, I was like, okay, well,
this needs to be my guides. Like, this is these, these need to be my guides. and I start feeling different sensations in different places and start asking questions like, you know, what does this mean? And then just taking notice of patterns and like synchronicities and things like that. Well, one day I decided that I was goingn take it step further and, I decided to use dowsing rods.
And dowsing rods are really interesting because they are these copper metal things and traditionally they're used to detect water in the ground. But as spiritualist or anybody in the spiritual or paranormal sphere is going to also tell you that they help detect ghosts. And so I was like, all right, if they can detect ghosts and ghosts can answer me through these dowsing rods, like, let's see if it's true.
And so that's what I started doing. And I had things come through and I was just like, what is going on? And it freaked me out because I was like, I'm not doing this. And I know some people would argue like subconsciously you're doing this, like with micro movements or re, like manipulating the rods or whatever. And I
was like, it's actually like not possible. Like With the questions that I was asking, the ways the rods were manipulating themselves, the things that these entities knew was just like how this is not me. So what? Whatever. Then from there I had lent the dowing rond to my sister and I was, I felt like empty. I felt, it was like, oh my God, I have no connection to the other side. How am I gonna connect to my
guides? Like they're not answering me. And then I finally realized I was like, but I am the channel, I am the vessel, I, am the receiver. So I started practicing how to use my body, how to use myself to like receive messages. And it started off as simple yes or no things like yes or no, my body would sway and then from there it went into like words that I would receive. And now I am a fullool on full blown channel. Like a full blown channel for, for
entities. So what that means, is that typically a medium will receive messages, right? He or she is going to get impressions and they're going to use their clair'to how they receive. It is their clair'that's. How they are sensitive. So it's. They're clair sentient, they can feel things, they're clearair audience, they can hear things, they're clairvoyant, they can see things. Sometimes it's a mix of a few of them and typically they come in as impressions or symbols or words,
phrases that they hear. For me it's different. I have the clairs, but the entity uses me to speak to you. So I am a channel. So that means like the way that I'm speaking to you now is how they will speak to you. And it's funky because what happens is my voice may change a little bit depending on whether it's a male or female entity. The way that I, I interact like with you is going to change because right now I'm looking at you and
I'm, I'm being myself. But once the entity is here and they're channeling through me, I have to say things to my right or to my left. Like it's, it's how they manipulate me. Like I am being manipulated. And then it will. They will say things and ask you questions directly and you can answer them directly, but it is not me. But then I will break from it and be like, does this make sense or is this resonating with you?
Because I need to make sure that the messages that are coming through are accurate, but they also will fix me. Like, they will, they will make sure that, like, I'm channeling accurately too. or try to make sure that I'm channeling as accurately as I can. And it's a very strange experience for many, but it's just how it shows up for me. Like I am a straight channel. Like they speak directly through me. And so I know it's a little weird because it looks like I'm talking to
myself, but I'm not. And like, the best, best example that I give people is like, if anybody follows Bashar or the person, his name is Daryl Anka. Daryl Anka is the human. Bashar is the entity. Daryryl Anka channels Bashar and gives these messages to people like in, in public, like, not in public places, but like in seminars and in conferences or whatever he does. Like he channels an entity. And that's basically what I do. I am channeling entities.
So when I'm doing a medium reading, I'm either literally channeling your loved one that has passed on the other side, but not necessarily. I can be channeling a spirit guide, which oftentimes spirit guides come through. People don't necessarily know that they have spirit guides, but everybody on this earth has a spirit guy, at least one. So that may come through and they, you know, speak to you. But it's always interesting because I just don't know what's
gonna come through. I. And I just know that I'm absolutely obligated to say whatever it is that's coming through. And it looks weird, it's a strange thing, but it's just how my gift works and I just kind of flow with it. >> John: Nice, Nice. I love it. So you left me to my next question here. Guiding spirits. There's a lot where people who will say, you know, something to the effect of, do I have a guiding spirit? Which
you answered already. But one of the things I guess a lot of people ask is like, do I have maybe one or more spirit guides? And who are my spirit guides? So it's kind of a two part question. So a lot of people think I have more than one spirit guide. And I've talked To other mediums who have, have told me, Michael Gentleman, who is sensitive and his wife is sensitive. When they go in the North
Carolina, they live in North Carolina. When they go into the forest, they meet their spirit guys and their spirit guides tell them good, maybe some bad things, right? But they also have other spirit guides and everything. My first question would be, someone listening to this would be like, deborah, I don't think I have a spirit guide because, you know, maybe my life's a mess. Maybe, you know, I've made bad decisions, maybe I've done this. So if there's a spirit guide, they're
failing or, you know what I mean? Like people might throw that at you and be like, I don't know about that. What would you say to that? >> Deborah Roque: I would say, do not worry, you have at least one spirit guide with you at all times. No matter what, no matter
where. Doesn't matter. Even if you feel alone, even if you don't feel the presence, even if you're having a hard time with anything, or if you feel like you're a bad person, you literally legitimately have a spirit guide with you at all times. >> John: And ah, what would be like, how would you describe a spirit guide? Like, where would you say, is this someone from your past? Is it someone, maybe something like a Native American
guide? Maybe? I don't know. When people ask that, what would you say to them when they're looking for their sp? >> Deborah Roque: It is literally what it means or what is said. Like it translates to a guide that in spirit form. Now what that looks like can be many things. A lot of times we don't really realize that energy is eternal. Right? Like we know it, like, like the concept is there, but we don't really understand that
and how it translates to us. So what that means is like if you're existing now, you've probably existed for a really long time and you've had other lives. So presumably if you've existed for a long time and had out other the lives, you've had other interactions with other beings. Now this can be humans, this can be other beings, like maybe of some sort of
alien or unknown race. There are literally hundreds or thousands, maybe even millions of different species of like things in the universe that we do not have any knowledge of or awareness of. And your guide can be from any past life of yours from anywhere in this universe. And so maybe it's another human that you met, maybe it's the love of your life from another life, maybe it's a child, maybe it's a parent, maybe it's a best friend. It's however it is, like, no, but I
don't know you understand. I know my guy. But you know, other people. Everybody has a different story. Everybody has a different ancestry or lineage. But it is kind of cool to know that, like, you know, we've been here for long time and there've been, soul connections that we've made. And these soul connections are last an eternity. And we don't really realize that because we forget when we become human. But that's just the reality in the spirit realm that even I learned just a few months ago
when I became a medium. Like, I didn't know all this, but here I am. Yeah. >> John: Yeah, absolutely. So I'm going to ask you a question, Debah, that I saved from one of my roundtable discussions that we didn't get to. this is really interesting. Do my spirit guides. This person asked, so I'm guessing they have more than one. Have any advice on how to live my best life during this lifetime? I was like, okay. What do you think of that?
>> Deborah Roque: Yeah, absolutely. of all the readings that I've done, the ones where the spirit guides have come through, which have been actually have been almost all of them. u. interestingly enough, the guide literally tries to help the person live their best life. And when people don't realize about living your best life, a lot of it deals with healing. And so oftentimes when people, like, ask if what should I do? Or where should I go? What? the answer they get
is, you need to heal or. And then it'll be different aspects too. Like, it'll, like, it's either like, you need to heal this part of you or you need to heal that part of you. Or like, these are the chakras that are imbalance. Like, you need to balance these chakras. Like, like, it's just different advice for different people. But it's just very interesting how the advice ends up
resonating with the person. But the answer a guide is going to give you, at least based on my experiences on how to live your best life, is heal and then, you know, work, heal and work. do. Do the work. But yeah. >> John: Ah, yeah. >> Deborah Roque: Not a magical formula. >> John: Yeah, absolutely. And one of the things is, I've learned, is you have to love yourself before you can love anyone else. And I know it sounds a little cliche and a little sappy, but it's true,
right? Like, you have to be in touch with yourself and be like, I'm okay. Like, I'm a nerd and I'm weird, and I love that about myself. Like, I'm not going to change for anybody. I'm not gonna. Like. And I did in the past, and I was miserable. >> Deborah Roque: Yeah. >> John: When I, like, in my previous jobs, I'd have to be like, hey, what's going on? How you doing, Deborah? Let's go kind of thing. You know what I mean? And you're like, who is
that person? You know what I'm saying? Right. But then after a while, I'm like, right. And I was, okay, I'm weird. I'm a nerd. I like talking about paranormal. I like talking about ghosts. I like talking about, you know, portals. I like talking about all this stuff. Hollow Earth, conspiracy theories. Yeah, okay. You know what I mean? And I felt better about myself. So I don't know if was that. Was my guy telling me that or. I don't know.
But I just think that was really interesting when people talk about it, that I think about it now. Maybe it was right, Deborah. Maybe my guy was telling me, hey, stop being fake. Just being yourself. You're a good person. Right? >> Deborah Roque: Yeah. And I mean, that's typically the. That's typically the advice. And then, you know, you say something that always. It is very interesting. You said, like, you have to learn how to love
yourselves so you can love others. Actually, I've learned that we learn to love others before we love ourselves. And so that's the problem. Right? The problem is we're taught in our society to love others. We love our parents, we love our children, we love our friends, we love our family. And being taught how to love, super easy, you understand? Like, you found we fall in love all the time. The problem is that nobody teaches us how to love ourselves. Like, society is hell bent on
comparison. And where you should be or shouldn't be at a certain age or how you should look or shouldn't look at a certain age, or what job is a good job or what's a good behavior or what's not a good behavior. And, like, it's very, very difficult to find yourself in a society that just places all these constructs around you. So what ends up happening is that, yeah, you end up loving somebody,
but you don't love yourself. And then things go wrong because you don't know how to integrate and you don't know how to manage the. The chaos that's within you, because there's still chaos within you because you just don't value yourself. And so your guides actually Help you sort of see that and say, hey, you haven't been valuing yourself. Hey, you haven't been honoring yourself. Hey, there is a part of you that needs to heal, because otherwise it's going to keep repeating in your
life. And you're not. You're just go. Going toa stay stuck. You understand? And that's one of the things that I've learned that spirit guides help you do is sort of just like, have you come into more centered approach in your life where, like, you become the focus, you know, your re healing, your needs, your protection, your safety, your love becomes the center of stage, rather than you constantly giving, giving and giving and then not receiving the way that you need to receive.
And you also learn. Need to learn how to receive. So your guides are there to help you with this. So if you decided you needed to be you, and this is what makes me happy, I am absolutely sure that it was a guide sort of like pushing you to be yourself. That makes sense. >> John: I love it. I love it. See, I'm, on the page. I love it. So let's just a couple quick questions before we do the reading. One thing that I
think, and maybe I'm giving too much away. So if I'm giving too much away, just, Just say, johnn, you giving too much away? Oay aura. I am fascinated with auras, because here's the thing, and this always blows me away. I connect to certain people immediately. Men, women, especially women. It's weird. Like, some women just latch ono me. They're like, bam. Like, I can meet them, and say, hi, I'm John. And they're like, hi, you know, I'm Deborah. How are you? And immediately we're like, we know
each other. It's like, we. We've been around each other. And I think that's absolutely fascinating because other people I talk to, they do not like me. Like, it's almost like you can see them make, a face. And I've had people make faces at me. I'm like, well, I took a shower that. But there's. I literally tried to talk to Debah, and they want nothing to do with me. Like, I could literally, you know. And so I don't know if this has something to do with being a
medium or. Or spirit guides, but is there anything with auras that maybe. Because I know people can see them? There are certain mediums, psychics, whatever you want to call them, civic, where they can see a person's aura, and they can say, you have a strong aura. Your. Your Aura is orange or blue or whatever. So I can see this. What is your feeling upon that? Do you believe auras exist? And if so, is there any validation to what I'm saying? Yeah, last not to be when they don't.
>> Deborah Roque: okay, no, absolutely. I mean we all have an energy signature, you understand? Like we are all energy and so some of us are higher on the end of the energy signature of the energy scale and others are kind of lower, you understand? It really just depends on our thoughts, the things that we constantly tell ourselves, our perspective of life, our perception of life, you know,
and our behaviors and our actions. Like, I mean a lot goes into like who we are energetically and who we are energetically kind of shows up as an aura. Like you know, if people who read auras they can see a color. This is things are our frequencies, you understand, there's wavelengths and nation colors is on this
spectrum. And so what ends up happening is your energy field is constantly like on and your aura is that signature of that energy field and the color says a lot about where your energy is at. And so when somebody sees an aura, no, they're gonna tell you your aura is blue, your aura is purple. I had somebody randomly, I think it was the host of NLL podcast. Oh my goodness, I can't remember. She was just like randomly, she was like by the way, your aura is silver
silvery white. And I was just like what? And I, I was like oh okay, cool, great. And then I looked it up and I was like silvery white aura. And it was just something gorgeous. It was beautiful. It was like almost like, like high level aura. And I was like, mean. I was like why the hell would I be so up there? Like, I mean I like really? No, like I was just very surprised that she saw that about me. Like I expected likes red or something, I had no idea. But she said silver white. And she was
so specific about. And I was like oh, okay, well that's interesting. And so what ends up happening? He'like every we all have an aura. So the people that are either instantly attracted to you or instantly repelled about you, it's just like energy, you understand? Like it's just either it's gonna mesh or it's not gonn mesh and that's kind of fine because whatever, you know, rejects you is fine. It means it's just not in alignment and the ultimate goal is alignment. So just let it y go.
>> John: Bye bye. Yeah. >> John: Yeah. And that's what I find really interesting too. The other thing and I've Said this ad nauseam. So anyone listening to the show knows I've said there's a million times. I'll say it again. So my mom, she could meet a person and immediately tell, not being judgmental, whether they're a good or bad person. I mean, and she passed it on to me. And when I. When I tell people this, they usually laugh at me. But my mom could literally meet somebody and
go, I don't know. And, she did that with my girlfriends in the past. She'd meet somebody and be like. And typically, mom'meeting their girlfriend or boyfriend or partner or whatever. Like, because you're protective, right? You re like, it's kind of shady, but doesn't mean that that person's a bad person. Right? Because they can grow, like we talk about and do all these things. But my mom was never wrong. She was never wrong. She'd meet some of my bosses, and she'd be like,
yeah, I think you better look for another job, John. I don't think this is gonna work. And then I've taken that skill, and I can do that too. And it blows me away because I've had other mediums tell me, tell me, you should develop that skill more, because maybe you can turn it into something else that not only help people, but to help yourself or who knows what will grow from it. And it's so weird that, again, I think it is something like you said, to deal with auras and energy. Because I.
Like you said, it's two magnets. Like the experiment, you know, you did, like, fifth grade. You put magnets together, and they repel each other or they att attack each other'the same thing. And I'm absolutely fascinated by that because I'm like, I never. I never thought of that. I never. It never occurred to me. I thought it was just, you know, you meet someone, you're like, kind of seems like a door or a jerk, whatever. I didn't know. There's energy associated with that. Just blows me away.
Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. >> Deborah Roque: Ready? All right. Can you identify yourself? Yes, I can. You're female? Yeah. Yes, I am a female. Good job. Okay. Are you a loved one or a family member or a spirit guy? Spirit guy. Yes, I am. I am the spirit guy. Yes. Yes, I am. Ye. Yes. Okay, great. Take, take, take the show on the road. And do what? Okay. M. Oh, forgive me. John O. Good job. Y. Okay. John M. I am so pleased to be here right now. Ye.
Yes. You have absolutely no idea what a treat this is to be able to speak to you after so many years. Oh, my goodness. I'm a little nervous. Yes. Yes, I am. Okay. Okay, John, this will be your spirit guide speaking to you. Let me start off with a few things. First of all, the who. The other. Yes. Yes, Good. We'll start off with her. It was a very impactful experience. Yes, it was. He had. It felt very strong within him when he heard the medium say what she said about his mother.
So I just wanted to confirm and help validate that his mother is in a very u. >> John: yes. Thank you. >> Deborah Roque: You're welcome. You are very welcome. And thank you for listening. For listening, John. You are listening to us. You are sensitive. You have gifts. You just don't understand this world. As enthusiastic as you are about it, there are so many things you just do not understand. But you are understanding because you are going with your feelings. You are
listening to your intuition. You are developing your. And growing. And this is the path. You understand? You are on the right path. You are doing so great, and we are very proud of you. Do you understand? >> John: Yes. Thank you again. >> Deborah Roque: You're very welcome. I think this is a good place for me to stop. There are other things. Maybe for another time. but this is very good. And very first. For a very first time for me. For me. Oh, my
goodness. I can't believe if I can talk to him. This is amazing. Ye. Yes. Okay. Anyway, this is good. >> John: No, not right now. You answered a lot of them, and thank you. I truly appreciate you watching over me and guiding me through my life. >> Deborah Roque: Absolutely. All of us. I do have to go. It is a little bit of a ritual that if you have no more questions than. I look forward to a future reading with this
medium personally. But the others have been nice, some of them better than others. But this medium allows me to speak to you, and that is a gift. Thank you. I will go. Yeah. Yeah. All right, John. I'm gonna let her go. So it's a little bit of a thing. they use my breath, so I'm just gonna. It's a little dramatic. >> John: Yep. >> Deborah Roque: So just give me a second. >> John: Yeah. Yes. That was very amazing. >> Deborah Roque: Y. Sorry.
So I learned when I became a medium, that the way that they come in is through breath, and the way they exit is through breath. So coming in is very easy, but leaving is. Is a little more dramatic, as she said. So they have to literally be breathed out. Like a breath out. And so that's what typically happens. But she's gone. >> John: Yeah. >> Deborah Roque: That was amazing, by the way. She's amazing. I really loved her energy. How was the reading for you?
>> John: That was. That was really interesting and thank you again. She seemed very like, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but she seemed very nice and she seemed very forward and she seemed like she really wanted to tell me things. Is that's kind of what you were getting? >> Deborah Roque: Oh, absolutely. I mean, whatever she was saying, it was her. That was not me. So. Yeah, like that was
her. Like that was her energy coming to. Like, I cried because she was upset about your son and I was just like, whoa. >> John: Yeah. Yeah. Emotional about that too. >> Deborah Roque: Yeah, it's. I mean, again, I didn't even know. Yeah. >> John: I was worried that. I was worried, Deborah, that you were gonna be like murder. And I'm like murder. >> Deborah Roque: No. >> John: Yeah, you. Something like that. >> Deborah Roque: No, there is.
You know, it's so funny you bring that up. There is a huge misconception about like mediums or tarot readers that like we're going to predict death and like destruction and like gloom and doom and things like that. And like, I understand why. Because there are people out there who will do a reading for you and they'll be like, that you have a spirit attachment. Oh my God, I can remove that for you if you pay me a certain amount of money. And so I understand where it comes from. And now
there's a lot of misunderstanding about the spirit world in general. Especially when it comes to like God and spirits and angels and demons and ghosts and all that stuff. >> John: Yeah. >> Deborah Roque: So typically people expect like spooky things or like, you know, I don't know, it's kind of weird. It's either they expect like yah. Bad things, but then some people expect really specific things. Like. Well, you know, tell me this
exact thing with this exact thing. It's like that doesn't necessarily always work like that. Like it's whatever they like whatever comes throughue. Like I'm not the one in charge. Yeah. but sometimes I do get names and sometimes I do get like really specific things that people are like, holy sh. That. That was. How did you know that? You understand. >> John: So, yes. >> Deborah Roque: Point is that whatever comes through is meant to help
you. And if it's a true medium and if it's somebody who's truly connected, like that's what they're going to do. So m. That's What I am now. Medium. >> John: Yes. I love it. It's awesome. We'll have to do this again because I have ve some questions I didn't want to Ask. Because we were dealing with
other things at this time, but I have some other questions. If we do this again, dealing with some of my friends that recently passed, and I kind of want to go through that and see, maybe my spirit guides would tell me ithing again. I know it's, not, you know, whether they do or not now. Can I ask you a question? Is 4 too many spirit guides or for too low? What's the number? >> Deborah Roque: Like, no, fourore is a good number. A lot
of. Yeah, like, a lot of the people that I've talked to typically have between two, two. One person had six. So, you know, it can just. It varies. One person has two, others had three, you have four, somebody had six, I have a few. So, like, I don't even know how I have now. Like. But yeah, so, like, there are people you can have well into 20 spirit guides. Like, it just really depends the level. Typically, the higher you go
in your. In your life, like, spiritually, the more spirit guides you're going toa have, because you need protection. So they're here to protect you. >> John: Yes, that is. That is interesting. That's fascinating to me. >> Deborah Roque: But four is a good number. >> John: All right, let's take it again. You know, this is so much gratitude, you know, for. For you doing this. You know, I cannot.
That's one of the things I wanted to do this year, too, is give gratitude and stuff and know, you know, we worry about the things we don't have. What we don't do is have gratitude for the things we do have. Right. And I think something, too, that we all have to learn, about. So, again, so much gratitude for you and my spooky friends out there. Remember, please reach out to Debah. Have you changed anything of where people could reach you at? Or is it the same old Instagram and stuff like that?
>> Deborah Roque: Or same old stuff. I'm active on Instagram, still active on TikTok for the time being. My website, www.paranormalparadigma.com, my handles on all the platforms are Paranormal Paradigma, so at Paranormal Paradigma. And I now have a YouTube channel, which I haven't really been doing a lot with, but I do have an interview. I have an interview out there with a few, like, real, like, shorts, I guess. YouTube calls
it short, so I do have a few shorts that I posted. But there is one interview that I. If any of you are interested with a person who had a dog, dog man or a wolf man or wolf experience here in Florida. So that's a really cool interview. And I'm gonna release another interview with somebody who is sensitive and has had paranormal spiritual experiences his whole life and like his story. so I'll be you releasing that hopefully by the end of this month, beginning of next.
And so I'm slow with it with YouTube at the moment, but hopefully that will pick up by the year as the year goes. And you, can connect via there. And you know, at the moment I'm doing pay what you can readings. ok. At least for medium readings, Tarot readings. They're the same price on my website. And then I also do spell work and I'll see how I grow from here. And I gotta know whatever you guys want. We'll figure it out. >> John: I love it again. You leave me speechless every time.
>> Deborah Roque: I, thank you. >> John: Having you on the show, I can't say enough, please. You know, like she said, it's kind of, you know, she'll figure it out, so don't worry about it. You know, if you're like, I really want to know these things, but I don't have whatever reach out to her. Deborah will be fair. You. Come on. We'll figure it out, people. Let's do this. So awesome. Thank you for going overtime. Definitelynna have you
on again. Like we talk about those round tables, you know, if we want to do that. 'really trying to this year to explore new things and put some new things out there. Find out, you know, what life means as well. Some spooky stuff that maybe'out there. UFOs, cryptids. So this year is my year of self discovery and figuring out what's going on out there. >> Deborah Roque: Love it, love it, love it. >> John: All right, well, hugs and kisses, you know, love for the family and, we will
talk later. Bye, Deborah.