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Easter Tuesday - John 20: 11-18

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John 20: 11-18 - 'I have seen the Lord and he has spoken to me.'


Catechism of the Catholic Church Paragraphs:

- 640-641 (in 'The Empty Tomb') - Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen." The first element we encounter in the framework of the Easter events is the empty tomb. In itself it is not a direct proof of Resurrection; the absence of Christ's body from the tomb could be explained otherwise. Nonetheless the empty tomb was still an essential sign for all. Its discovery by the disciples was the first step toward recognizing the very fact of the Resurrection. This was the case, first with the holy women, and then with Peter...Mary Magdalene and the holy women who came to finish anointing the body of Jesus, which had been buried in haste because the Sabbath began on the evening of Good Friday, were the first to encounter the Risen One. Thus the women were the first messengers of Christ's Resurrection for the apostles themselves (abbreviated).

- 645 (in 'The Condition of Christ's risen humanity) - By means of touch and the sharing of a meal, the risen Jesus establishes direct contact with his disciples. He invites them in this way to recognize that he is not a ghost and above all to verify that the risen body in which he appears to them is the same body that had been tortured and crucified, for it still bears the traces of his Passion. Yet at the same time this authentic, real body possesses the new properties of a glorious body: not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills; for Christ's humanity can no longer be confined to earth, and belongs henceforth only to the Father's divine realm. For this reason too the risen Jesus enjoys the sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes: in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples, precisely to awaken their faith.

- 443 (in 'The Only Son of God') - He distinguished his sonship from that of his disciples by never saying "our Father", except to command them: "You, then, pray like this: 'Our Father'", and he emphasized this distinction, saying "my Father and your Father" (abbreviated).

- 654 (in 'The Meaning and Saving Significance of the Resurrection') - Justification consists in both victory over the death caused by sin and a new participation in grace. It brings about filial adoption so that men become Christ's brethren, as Jesus himself called his disciples after his Resurrection: "Go and tell my brethren." We are brethren not by nature, but by the gift of grace, because that adoptive filiation gains us a real share in the life of the only Son, which was fully revealed in his Resurrection (abbreviated).

- 660 (in 'He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father') - The veiled character of the glory of the Risen One during this time is intimated in his mysterious words to Mary Magdalene: "I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. "This indicates a difference in manifestation between the glory of the risen Christ and that of the Christ exalted to the Father's right hand, a transition marked by the historical and transcendent event of the Ascension.

- 2795 (in 'Who art in Heaven') - In Christ, then, heaven and earth are reconciled, for the Son alone "descended from heaven" and causes us to ascend there with him, by his Cross, Resurrection, and Ascension (abbreviated).


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Hi everyone. Thanks again for tuning into the logical Bible study podcast, and for following on with what we're doing here, which is digging into the literal sense of the text to work out. What's the author trying to convey to his original audience and that's called an analysis or an exegesis. Of the literal sense of the text, which is where we always want to start as Catholics.

So continuing today, for Easter Tuesday, we're looking at John chapter 20 verses 11 to 18 which is the passage you would hear if you go to mass today, Mary stayed outside near the tomb weeping. Then still weeping shoe stupid. She stooped to look inside and saw two angels in white sitting, where the body of Jesus had been one at the head, the other at the feet, They said woman, why are you weeping? They have taken my Lord away. She replied. And I don't know where they have put him.

As she said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there though. She did not recognize him. Jesus said woman, why are you weeping? Who are you looking for? Supposing him to be the gardener. She said, sir, if you have taken him away, tell me where you have put him and I will go and remove

him. Jesus said, Mary. she knew him then and said to him in Hebrew rabboni which means master Jesus said to her, do not cling to me because I have not yet ascended to the father but go and find the brothers and tell them, I am ascending to my father and your father to my God and your God So Mary of magdala went and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord and that he had said these things to her. So that's your passage for today.

And the aisle key character here is Mary Magdalene, who, of course, is one of Jesus closest followers. And she's been in the Gospel of John in the last couple of chapters surrounding his death and his burial. So what's just happened in John chapter 20 Sarah Mary Magdalene earlier in this chapter, she saw the empty tomb and she runs back and tells Peter and John and then you're probably remember Peter and John run back to the tomb and they see the clothes

roll. Tup so, Mary Magdalene has come back with Peter and John and now she is sort of waiting at the tomb. Now, what we're going to see here in this text is the second appearance of Jesus after his death. So the first appearance chronologically, it appears is to the women who are on their way to tell the other disciples about the empty tomb. So that's already happened perhaps an hour or two hours before this and now we have Jesus appearing again.

To Mary Magdalene at the tomb. So, verse 11 Mary stayed outside near the tomb weeping. So again, we need to try and break free of this. The videos, we sometimes see of this scene at this stage mirror is not in the Tomb. In fact, she doesn't appear to go into the Tomb at all. Here, she's outside the tomb near by Peter and John have left by now. So apparently she's alone. And she's weeping, and she's weeping, because, as we find out, she does not know where the robbers have put the body.

She's thinks that his body has been stolen. Even though she's probably seen the angel descend from heaven. She just doesn't understand. Where is the body? She thinks a robber has stolen it. Now, this weeping Might Recall. Something that was said earlier by Jesus in John chapter 16, John says to his disciples, you will weep and mourn while the world rejoices you will grieve, but your grief will become Joy. So there's an interesting link there. So now she Stoops to look

inside. So, she looks inside the tomb verse 12, she saw two angels in white sitting, where the body of Jesus had been one at the head and the other ER, of the feet. Now, these angels weren't there before when Peter and John looked in the tomb, which was shortly before this. So apparently these angels have appeared just for Mary. They're they're on a mission to help Mary in this situation.

They know that she doesn't believe Jesus has risen and they're there to help her believe that he has. So they say to her, why are you weeping? So they want Mary to realize that there is no reason to weep Interestingly Mary doesn't appear to be afraid of the Angels, although usually in the Bible, people are afraid of Angels, or maybe she doesn't realize who they are. She was so distraught. So she says to them, they have taken my Lord away and I do not know where they have put him.

So, notice the language of my Lord shows, the intimate personal relationship with she has with Jesus before this, she talks about, we don't know where they have put him now. It's where have you put my Lord? I don't know where he is gone, so she considers Jesus, to be not just a friend, but her personal Lord and Master. She's deeply distraught here. Verse 14, as she turned around, so, get the picture. She now, turns, and looks back outside the tomb. She saw Jesus standing there though.

She did not recognize him. So, apparently Jesus has teleported here from his first appearance in Jerusalem. Apparently he hasn't walked because otherwise he would have run into people. So he's somehow in visibly moved from Jerusalem to the tomb, and that's because Jesus only wants to appear to particular people for the next 40 days. He doesn't want to appear to others, only the certain ones that he picks. Now, interestingly, why doesn't she recognized Jesus? There's a lot of discussion

about this. I think there's three main theories about, why Mary doesn't initially recognize? Jesus one, is that her vision is blurred by the tears and she's just distraught and not thinking properly or something like that. Second option is that Jesus himself is taking on a different appearance than what he had before and that would fit in with some of the other appearances later in the gospels. Such as on the road to Emmaus, the two people are walking with him the entire way to Emmaus,

but they don't recognize him. And it's also the explanation that the catechism prefers, it tends to lean in this direction. So on this Theory, Jesus looks different in his glorified body. And in fact, maybe he can choose to appear in different forms. That's the theory that I think is most likely to be correct. And there's a third Theory, which is that God has imposed some sort of Supernatural blindness on Mary of Magdalene

here. It's a supernatural thing and when she recognized him it's like the scales fall from her eyes kind of Thing. And to support that we have Luke 24 16 which is on the road to Emmaus. It says the disciples eyes were prevented from recognizing him. So it depends how we take that. As I said, I think the best way to interpret this is that Jesus is actually appearing in a different form although that's not the only explanation.

Now, there might be some parallels here to what happened to Peter and John or Peter and the Beloved disciple. Just before this, remember they arrived at the tomb, they see the cloths but they do not know exactly what it means. Similar to Mary Magdalene here, in both cases. Neither party has the gift of faith in the Risen Jesus. They see, but they don't understand. and, Verse 15, Jesus says to Mary Magdalene woman. Now, that's not a demeaning term. It sounds like that to us is in

the 21st century. But in that culture, it was pretty common to refer to women just as woman. Jesus uses it several times in the Gospel of John, when he wants to redefine relationships with those. He addresses. So at the wedding of Cana Jesus calls his mother woman and it's not an insult, it's just kind of a title and we'll talk more about that when we look at the wedding of Cana. So Jesus is not insulting Mary Magdalene by calling her woman. He says, why are you weeping?

Who are you looking for? So Jesus he doesn't immediately come right out and say I'm Jesus. He wants Mary to be the one to engage in the conversation before he says anything like that. Now, what he says here, what or who are you looking for some Scholars? Think John includes this statement deliberately to call back to something. The Jesus says, right at the start of the Gospel of John. When Jesus first speaks to the disciples, he says, what are you looking for? That's in 1:38.

So now Jesus. Yes, Esther Mary Magdalene. Who are you looking for? So, perhaps, it's signaling a new era for Jesus disciples where his redefining, his relationship with them. After the resurrection. She supposes him to be the gardener, so apparently, Jesus tomb was in some sort of garden field and we see that in chapter 19 and there would be a gardener that would work in this area, cleaning up the field and keeping watch over the tomb.

So she says, sir, if you have taken him away, tell me where you have put him and I will go and remove him so Mary, he thinks that the gardener might have removed him because maybe the gardener didn't want anyone to be in this tomb and he's just cleaning up the area. So Mary offers to remove him herself. She says, just tell me where he is, please. And I'll move him. At this point, Jesus says, Mary. Now it's something about the way he says it makes me recognize him.

Maybe it's his voice, maybe it's the gentle way he says it and this recalls Jesus own teaching about the Good Shepherd. Remember, Jesus says, I am the Good Shepherd and I call my sheep by their names. So there's an interesting link there. And then, in fact, this is John chapter 10 about the Good. Shepherd, verse 4 of John chapter, 10, says marry. Well, My sheep recognize my voice and hear me recognizes his voice, she says to him in Hebrew

rabboni which means master. So John clarifies what this Hebrew word means because his audience is not Jewish and he wants them to understand the full force of what Mary says here. It's a term of deep reverence for one's personal teacher Rubber and I Now, many people supposed at this point because of what Jesus says next, they think that maybe Mary Magdalene worships him and clings onto him but not necessarily. Verse 17, Jesus. He says. And this is where the confusion

sometimes lies. Do not cling to me, because I have not yet ascended to the father Now this is a good passage to do an exegesis on. A lot of people interpret this to mean that Mary is physically clinging onto his legs. And Jesus, here is saying something like don't touch me or don't worship me because my body is unclean or something like that. I don't think that's the right interpretation. When he's talking about clinging, he's not talking about physical clinging.

There's two possibilities of what this could mean, it could mean something like this. Jesus is meaning, I'm still here with you. For a little while longer, there's no need to cling to me. I'm yet to leave you to go to the father, so it's kind of a reassuring. I'm going to be here with you for a bit longer. There's no need to cling to me. Second option, would be, do not hold on to the old version of me and old version of discipleship. There's now a new State of Affairs.

I'm not going to associate with you in the same way anymore. So Jesus is drawing her attention to the fact that there's now a new era and she needs to think about things differently, either interpretation could be right there. Now this is a really important verse though. Just think about what he says do not cling to me because I have not yet ascended to the father. This tells us that Jesus journey is not yet finished. Even after his death even after his resurrection.

There's still things that he needs to do. He hasn't yet gone to heaven and returned to the father's side. Side and that's going to happen later at the Ascension. There's a lot of significance to why Jesus has to ascend. There's a whole lot, you could say about it because this is when Jesus glorified. Human body gets reunited with God's Own inner life, which of course, opens the way for all men to be United to God in that same way. Remember that Jesus said earlier, at the Last Supper, he

said where I am going. You cannot follow unless I go there first. And so, that's the same kind of idea with the Ascension He says, but go and tell the brothers, which is the disciples. And we've talked about why Jesus uses the term Brothers in the last few podcasts. Go and find the brothers and tell them. I am ascending to my father and your father to my God and your God. So Jesus wants Mary Magdalene to

go and tell the apostles. The Jesus story is not yet over, he still has work to do and in particular she wants her to tell them. I'm going to my father and your father to my God and your God. Why does he use language like that? It could be a couple of things, he could be. That Jesus wants to emphasize that he's going to be with God, is in the god, that you Jews believe in, that's where I'm going. And so he wants them to realize how serious this is.

I am literally going to God. It could be and this is probably more likely that by Jesus death and Resurrection, he has radically changed the relationship between God and man. So whereas previously Jesus, mostly just refer to God as his own father now because of his death. And Resurrection, he's saying that you disciples can call him your father as well. So that's another way of looking at it.

There are children of God and that's why they're Jesus brother's because of, what Jesus did through his saving work on the cross. We finished with Verse 18, sir. Mary of magdala went and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord and that he had said these things to her. So she relays the message. The next thing that occurs on this day, a lot happens on this Easter Sunday is later in the day. Jesus appears to the apostles and we're look at that. In a later, episode of the

podcast. So let's have a look at how the Catholic Church, what the Catholic Church tells us about this passage and how it informs our understanding of church teaching. There's quite a few references to this particular passage, because of the interesting things that Jesus says about himself here. So, firstly, in paragraph, six forty, and six forty one in the section about the empty tomb. We have a discussion about Mary magdalene's role in that. We've read that out in the last

couple of episodes. So I'll include that in the show notes for you to read. Paragraph 645 has a discussion about the condition of Christ's risen humanity. And here, the church tells us why it is that Jesus appears to look different after, or at least why people don't recognize him after his resurrection. Paragraph 645 says, by means of touch, in the shearing of a meal. The Risen Christ establishes, direct contact with his

disciples. He invites them in this way to recognize that he is not a ghost and above all to verify That the Risen body in which he appears to them, is the same body that had been tortured and crucified for it's still Bears. The traces of his passion, yet at the same time, this authentic, real body. Possesses the new properties of

a glorious body. Not limited by space and time, but able to be present how, and when he Wills for Christ's Humanity can no longer be confined to Earth and belongs henceforth only to the father's Divine realm for this. Into the Risen Jesus enjoys, the Sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples precisely to awaken their faith. So here, you'll hear in that last bit.

The church understands that Jesus is appearing in a different form here which Mary sees is the gardener paragraph. 443 is a discussion about the term your father and my father, my father from this passage. It says he distinguished his sonship from that of his disciples by never saying our father except to command them. You then pray like this our father and he emphasized this distinction by saying my That

and your father. So the church actually takes that to mean that When Jesus says my father and your father, there's a distinction between the closeness that Jesus has with his father and the closeness of the Apostle's. Have with the father paragraph 6, 54 is a discussion about the significance of the resurrection and it says Jesus himself called his disciples after his resurrection, go and tell my

brethren. We are Brethren not by nature but by the gift of Grace because that adopted affiliation gains us a real share in the life of the only son which was fully revealed in his resurrection. And then in paragraph 6 60 we have a really interesting discussion of why Jesus says these words about do not cling to me and what it means about the time period between his resurrection and his Ascension.

So paragraph, 660 says, the veiled character of the glory of the Risen one during this time is intimated in his mysterious words to Mary Magdalene. I have not yet ascended to the father, but go to my brethren and say, to them, I am ascending to my father and Your father to my God.

And your God. This indicates a difference in manifestation between the glory of the Risen Christ and that of the Christ, exalted to the father's right hand, a transition marked by the historical and Transcendent event of the Ascension. So we don't often talk about the Ascension and what it means theologically, but the catechism takes it quite seriously. As does the whole Catholic

faith. And this particular verse from John chapter 20 is used as a key verse in understanding the significance of the Ascension and then in paragraph 2795, which is in the discussion, about the line Who Art in Heaven, from the Our Father there's it's a similar similar point is made about what it means to say that God is in heaven and that Has ascended there. So I'll put that paragraph in the show notes as well.

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