While You Were Sleeping / Ep. 24

I'm Jessica and this is a TC presents. Their Bucky Rambles. Were a couple of friends review Korean. Dramas and today, I am joined by my very special friends. Nas Inori from the soul Sistas podcast. Cast. Oh my God I am so excited for you guys to finally be on the podcast. I guess what, on your pod, not too long ago for the business proposal episode, and that was so much fun. So if I feels like a long time coming like, you guys were meant to be on this podcast to as

guess, guess, hose. I adore you guys. Definitely check out my now, if you haven't already, guys are amazing. Um, I think if I just in case people don't No, like, who you guys are? Do you want to give like an intro and like, what's like your favorite kdrama genres or like your favorite key drama? If you guys want to do that, okay? Now, if you want me to take a step and you fill it, you have.

You got to go. All right, so be, it has our long story short, we fell in love with BTS separately, somehow or another Nez randomly message me, me and her knew each other from church. Long story we started quote talk about BTS and the net. This is like, do you watch kdramas? And I was like, yeah, I guess. And by the time my first kdramas, my whole love. I watch that. Don't remember it, but it's a running joke on our podcast, I don't remember. Um, but yeah. So me and her kind of bonded

over our love for. Hey, traumas. And then a year later, we're like, oh, all of these kdramas, we listen to ATC, listen to a lot of different of the kdrama community. We were like, well, why don't we do a podcast? And me and as for a couple months, I kept saying that and nobody ever nobody, ever did anything we do, you're serious. Yeah.

So almost you know, two years from that conversation where podcast left but yes, my first one was my whole of first kdrama don't remember it but will be re watching it but my Hollow love is good. That's a good really good gay job. That's what they tell me. I don't remember. Yeah, you think that she didn't watch the show at all like you would be untrue. No memory of it at all. I'm like, why don't you remember this person this scene? She's like, nope, I do not write

election. Oh man, all right now as yes. Um, so my first kdrama was romance is a bonus book. That's the way I got introduced to eat junk sucks leaving a special place in my heart because of that show. Yeah, that's my first. Man, like I don't know. I was it was love at first sight with kdramas from that point. I was like, I love this, I'm never leaving. Like, I literally only want to watch kdramas. It was I just loved it so much. So yeah, that was my first one.

Okay. Yeah. You jung-sook in that is very cute. It's a Noona romance. And yes, I'll tell you. There is a bit of a scathing review blog review from myself Yours, Truly, on the site because mostly because I have a background in publishing. And so all like the publishing stuff that happens in that Joe I'm like this is bullshit. Like I was like Miriam. It's like they're misrepresenting the industry like this is nonsense.

So yeah, I'm sorry guys. It was that's what feels like a personal thing or just like it was like not accurate and I do it. Yeah, like I don't know. I was it wasn't it wasn't for me. But anyway, I'm gonna do a little bit. I did do a little bit of housekeeping, real fast, is it? This is your first time listening. Go ahead and subscribe on your favorite podcast app. You can find us on Apple, podcast Spotify, Google podcast,

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Finally. Okay. Yeah, no, because everyone's talked about this drama for to no end and I feel like I've been left Now yeah, saying how you watch this drama, so I'll sure why I didn't why I avoided it after like all the stuff I'm about to say. So I'll read the synopsis, get to the cast and all that and then we can share our thoughts on While You Were Sleeping. Okay? The my drama listen office reads, a young woman with a with bad.

Premonition dreams meets two people who suddenly develop the same ability namjoo lives with her mother. A widow who runs a small restaurant jung-jae chime a rookie prosecutor and his Younger brother move in across the street. Since Hong, Joo was young. She has had the ability to see the good and bad events before they happen. However, she is unable to do anything about them. One day dish on has a strange premonition dream about an accident involving Hong Joo and

bu bum, a ruthless attorney. Who used to be John's tutor did tend to science to interfere in the course of events and ends up saving the lives of Hangzhou. And Han will talk a young police officer when Jetton hanju and woo Tak, then start having dreams about one another. They realize that their Now, somehow, entwined, but can the three discovered the reason that they were brought together and can they prevent the people closest to them from getting hurt? I don't know. We'll find out.

Okay, our medic reading about us. Yes, I love the dramatic. Do you, this was really long, I'm sorry. That was the episode 1. All right, so while you were sleeping, originally aired from September to November 2017. It's 16 episodes long as directed by. By Autumn wine and he's directed a bunch of stuff, including my love from the star dr. Hotel de luna startup and currently Big Mouth, starring Lee Jung Suk of course. So currently airing drama it is

gu it's thundering outside. I hope you don't hear that anyway. Um, It Is co-directed by Park soojin and she's directed. Why her doctor romantic and they co-directed doctors together from 2016. While You Were Sleeping, it was written by pocket. Yeah. And she wrote startup, she wrote Pinocchio, she wrote, I can hear your voice from 2013 and she wrote Dream High from 2011. I've talked about dream, I like in almost every of these, it comes up a lot so much. Why? I don't know.

Wow, I'm not going to Trend. Yes. So basically, this writer and these directors have worked together before startup, doctors and Dream. High of course, like a couple of Dramas already star. Bae Suzy and she stars as not hongju, she was in start-up, she was in a Dream High, Gu Family, Book, control of uncontrollably fond bag of on a bunch of stuff, we covered start up on season 2 of the box. So if you want to scroll back in your podcast feed, you can hear our thoughts about that.

I had Curtis from the infatuation podcast on for that one and he was a little bit contentious. So just beware that when he looks out that was a fun episode. You think the Devil's Advocate a lot and was like, you don't need to do this he's like I want to make it more interesting. I'm like why do you say that? Yeah. And then of course, when you while you were sleeping also Stars e jung-suk, we've mentioned him before he plays Drunk Kitchen, and he's been in.

I can hear your voice from 2013, you just rented it out. One Doctor, Stranger Pinocchio, W which we cover on season one of the podcast. Last romance is a bonus book, your first kdrama and he's currently starring in Big Mouth. I'm not sure when that was gonna end but it's 2022 show. Yeah, we got some supporting characters, I'll run through really fast. We have junk Haines as Hannah attack. That's off a be loved him. Yeah, he's had a really good few years here, he's been in

Snowdrop DP, one spring night. Something in the rain prison Playbook. I'll have you know that if you scroll back and your podcast feed you can hear Thoughts on Prison Playbook because we just covered that one. Also with Curtis also with Curtis from infatuation. We've also done something in the rain review. Yeah. Also one season two. That's one. That one's with Caitlin from no sleep for dramas and those have been really fun. Oh my God, we've also covered Snowdrop.

That was the first episode of season 3 so don't forget. Anyway, in case you guys don't know, we're like a drunken podcast now. It literally did not intend to cover this much drug and dramas, but here we are. So yeah, he's amazing. So I not. Yes. So we also have Eastern Europe, as you bomb the attorney that we mentioned in the synopsis, we have chem 1A as investigator Choi and he's the nation's largest, she like he really is wonderful, man.

I'd love to meet him someday. Yeah, I've been in everything so a few things I'll mention He wasn't start up as well so you can again. Something we've covered, he's been in strong girl doubling soon. We also covered that on the podcast, he's been in wat Ong, youth of May. He's been in Signal, which we covered as well in season one of the podcast. So we got it. We've also become a human, a podcast last person I'll say is call Sony plays protion Sheehan.

Heymann is her full name in the drama and she's the star of my Hallo love. Hey Ari. I asked or y'all she remembered her. I was like, that's the main girl from my whole of, don't you remember? And she was like, you know, I don't remember sorry. Okay. So this was my whole love pour my little old. I feel so bad for her because it's a very good drama and she doesn't miss really not. Yeah. Okay. So all this being said, we've come to the end of our Cast and whoever's behind the lens.

What did you guys think of while you were sleeping? Now, as you can see, we don't have to go all at once. It's okay, okay, I'll go first. Okay, yeah. So okay, so I thought the show was good. I thought the show was good. I would definitely recommend it to people. Okay, it has all the things that I like to see in a kdrama because it has it has comedy. As drama has like a Sprinkle of romance.

I also loved like the I guess like the episodic nature of it, like every few episodes, your kind of exploring like a new situation and a new story. I really like it when dramas do that. And of course like I thought the cast was so good and on the cast had like really great chemistry with each other, but yeah, I thought was a really good show. I would definitely recommend it. It's just I felt like as the show's. Yeah. But as the show went on I think that things did start to waver a

little bit. Like in the middle things kind of started to kind of come apart a little bit for me personally and I'll go into that like deeper later. But yeah, like, I'm really glad I watched it though because it was always on my list was like, you guys know was watching kdramas? Your list is ever growing. It's always growing. And it's like, you know, like when am I ever going to be able to get to these older shows?

And there's newer shows current shows on watching and it's just like it's like a never-ending existential crisis situation like I'm never going to watch everything. I want to see you. So I'm really happy I watching. You asked us to come on and you know, review it. But yeah. I definitely have some thoughts like the intricacies of the Good. Yes, no. I have thoughts as well. We don't have thoughts Lori. What did you say?

So I watch, I started watching this in May before you asked us and I was just, you know, in my freedom phase of kdrama. I don't know what that means, but I still really watching it. And I watched the first two episodes and as talk, she asked me, like, what do you think? I'm just like, it's okay. I'll get to it eventually. So, um, when just asked us to come on the podcast, I'm like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go back to watching it and now I see why I didn't like continue watching it.

It's not my favorite drama y'all. I'm just going to say that right now and we'll get into why later. I did like seeing Han for 16 plus h because I'm gonna come and I did like the mean romance, but I it was not an enjoyable watch for me and whenever we get to sold you bottle readings, Minds isn't hi. Okay, so I'll jump in here and give my general thoughts on the show. I thought this show was going to be amazing. Just baked yam the first episode because same, I want a new episode.

Holy shit. This is amazing. Yeah, good, right. Yeah. It had so much, like, momentum and potential and I had the tension going throughout it and you can sense the Romantic, you know, couple like happening. And it just felt right like it hit all the right notes and beat in the first episode. Perfect. First episode, perfect villain, like whatever and then it kept going and I was like, hmm.

I don't know about this show like, actually, I think that I wasn't bought into Susie, and jong-seok as a couple. Oh, my goodness, Jess. Thank you. Wait. I was so nervous and I love these ideas to talk about. Okay. Okay. I don't think it's a secret that Susie and jungkook's characters are supposed to be endgame, like they're supposed to be together. Oh, yeah, you're the romantic leads, right? So you kind of go into it.

You can't sense that this is where the writers are, the writer wants to take it and then like a few episodes in. I'm like, why do they like each other? Right. You know, like I was like where's the basis of? Like they're like love like why does he actually a give her the time of day because she's just seems so not delusional, but delusional like she's making it seem like he's like after her and he's like doesn't want to yeah do with her. So it goes from that to like 0

to 60 he like loves her. Yeah so it didn't seem believable to me and that's saying something when it's a fantasy show about like them having a premonition dream, Eames and clear. So right, I thought they had a really good villain and he kind of sold the last few episodes for me because lutely, he was like a recurring like villain in all of these episodic trials and cases that they're trying to solve together and then it's like, like, where's the through

line? Like, how does this wrap up an end? Like how does he get his comeuppance and all that stuff? Like that comes into play final, few episodes. So so, for most of the show's, trying to recast Susie because I hated Susie in this role, oh, I was like, so, I just think late this row. Sing her Praises so hard in the startup episode. I was actually kind of impressive like with Susie in this episode is show then I get to the show.

And I'm like, why is Susie can like, it's just Susie like all I could see was Susie and I couldn't see her character hyungju, and I feel like she was just overpowering, you know, her presence was just so overpowering in the show, her celebrity was Whirring and I wanted someone with less like

baggage, you know, hmm. And like I just didn't like her delivery of certain things that just seem like she wasn't doing anything different and she has that like when she gets very excited or whatever she always has the same Cadence for her lunches. Oh yeah, look at that. Yeah, like it's always been that Cadence.

Yeah, it's very excited. If she's upset or whatever and I'm like, oh, that's like such a Susie is Like I don't want that anymore, so I was very distraught by her and I recast it in my head to maybe Han Sol é, from my name, or nevertheless, like diarrhea dress because I wanted something a little harder for the character because she's seen so much, you know, right in her dreams and she has this guilt. Mm, she puts blame on herself and so I'm like, I want to see a

little more of that tortured. Like Persona versus she's very like happy-go-lucky sometimes and like, yeah, thanks things lie. Very well and is very bubbly and like I kind of want a little bit of a darker, more personality, more Edge to her. Exactly. So I thought upon solely or confetti. Who does a really good job? Balancing both the light and dark aspects of this character, which I was like, I think we need someone with like that Vibe. You know, that was my recasting that I For Susie.

Yeah, that I have a question. So you guys so comparing Susie's character and start up to while you're sleeping. What did you guys think? Because for me, they seem like the same person exactly. Then I think that's what was like throwing me off. Like yes, I forgot her name wasn't startup but oh, it's okay, whatever, excuse me and Steph. Yes, and Susan startup and Susie. While you were sleeping. I was a psych. There's I feel like there's the same character. Yeah.

And that. Throwing me off as well, and I'm like, but I felt differently if I had like some time, like a little bit more time between when I saw start up and I saw this or if I never saw startup. So I was thinking about that too. When you guys, you guys see any similarities? Can you say the same thing about jong-suk though? Because I was telling you, how his romance and it's a bonus book. Condo was the same character to me, like the jokey and then like

really serious. But I don't know if that's just how he the characters already. I'll save it. Yeah. So I'll say this that I think that he is doing much the same as some of his other characters that he starred in and I'll say this that it's they're not demanding much of these two actors, right? I'm sure like there's nuances to every character and this plot like goes gets very thin and then gets very thick at times

and it's right. No, a revolving door of characters and scenarios that they have to overcome. But on the whole, they're not flexing anything that we haven't seen before, you know, right? The same sort of like a script for a fantasy Romance. Take a drama like if feels like beefer be a little bit like w. It feels a little bit like you know, Susie stuff as well like startup.

Yeah. And I don't think it's a coincidence because we're good we got the same writer from startup we have yeah Dame one of the same directors from startup as well, right? So like they're playing to Susie's strains but at the same time we've seen this strength already, right? Right. Yeah. So I feel bad. And again, like he you don't look as currently starring in Big Mouth. Which again one of the directors is on Big Mouth. True.

So yeah, there it's like too much like intertwining that it doesn't feel they collaborate a lot. Yeah. Yeah. They've collaborated with these people many times before so and I will say that, I feel bad that we saw start up first because this came before start of this can be very wary for start-up,

right? So if we had seen it in order, I kind of still feel Like we'd probably say the same thing that we'd be like I'm not really sure like why she's playing the same character feels like the same thing and yeah I think it's done on purpose. Like they want this Vibe playing. Yeah. Playing to the strength. Yeah, yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point though. It was only. I've only seen romances one spoke, of course. But I felt like this role.

I saw more sides to him. Like I saw likes it like, you know, like especially like the Comedic side of him because I didn't see like I'm a lot of that bonus book. Something. Oh, I didn't know they could be so loose and silly. Yeah, he's a little, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I was just like, oh, that's

new. So, okay, but it is like there are elements of like, you know, his character here that are similar to most visible in this book, but I guess that's why those directors really like them because it seems like they've done a lot of like projects with those two actors and what they really like Susie and you don't suck a lot big mouth.

I haven't seen any of the episodes but in the promos and some of the clips that I've seen he is Seen that like really harsh dark, you know, vengeful kind of character with the more goofy light side of a character. So right, he's doing again, like the same thing that he's doing in this show. I'm big mouth came out. Oh my God, I can't do math, three, four, five, five years. It's coming off five years after right, while you were sleeping, right?

Yeah. This is a conversation to have because I feel like people if they like startup or if they like one of these other dramas you can come to this drama and get more of the same. Yes. Right. But if you're like us or probably wanting something a little different, and I think that's what we're getting at here. Is that we weren't thrilled? We weren't surprised. We weren't, you know, given a New Journey, right?

It's just act leap. Actually, it's a repast exactly I think that's that's where like the I guess on the discontentment is it's just kind of like, all right. It's kind of more of the same type of thing. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, question that has nothing to do with the plot. Well, so kind of to do with the plot. Did you have you guys ever had a vivid dream and what was it? Oh, and or to, you know, piggyback off that question. Have you ever had a dream that

actually came true? Oh, oh, a really good question. I'll go first because I, you know, I have a question in the back of my head hurt. Ya. So I had a friend. This hadn't happened to me, but a friend of mine. Was like good friends with another with another girl and she dreamt that the girl with was pregnant and she liked hanging out hung out with her.

Not too long. After the dream was like man I had this really Vivid dream that you told me that you were pregnant and the friend was like oh and she was pregnant. Wow! Amazing! I mean, I don't know what she likes sniffed at how she sniffed it out, how it happened. But like it cause it was true. I have never had a dream come true on me.

I would freak out if I ever did, but I tend to have very vivid dreams and, and when I have them, I just like, blurt them out, like, whatever it was, and then I completely forget about the dreams. So I went to my sister, I was like, I have told you every single crazy dream that I've had, like, what were your favorites and she listed two of them. So one is very quick. I don't know why we were sleeping in the same bed that night but I was, she was like, I woke, we woke up.

But, you know, in the morning. Like, man, I had this crazy dream and she was like, what was it? And I was like, I lost my retainers, she does work. Where did you lose them? She does. And I go on the Titanic. My Vivid dream was that, I lost my retainers on the Titanic Titanic. They're sitting at the bottom of it like of the Atlantic. And then the other dream that I really like, and she reminded me of was, I told her this whole freaking dream that I had.

I watched this Steve Aoki documentary, you know the hmm. Oh yeah. Yeah, whatever. Hmm producer. So Steve Aoki documentary it was very interesting and then I went to sleep that night. I dreamt this really really intense Vivid dream where Steve Aoki was my cousin and we went to his house. It was me and my sister we went to his house to like hang out in

space. And all of a sudden he was having this big party and they were like buses out front like, bringing people in and taking people away. And I was like, I don't think we should stay here. Like it's to like, essentially we were leaving because it was like too much going on. And he and Steve Aoki was literally about was like, where you guys going? Like, whatever? And I woke up and the feeling was still within me. Like, deep-set.

I was like, 60, I woke up and I thought Steve Aoki is my cousin, like, literally, I was like Steve Aoki like Evernote. To my mind. So so this data do I need to call in some Street? Like could this actually be okay? There's like zero chance. It's okay based on this stupid dream I had and I recall it like even now Like, I have this deep feeling that I have, but I'm cousins with teriyaki. I do not like I'm actually crying. Oh my God. Okay Ari while NASA finishes

great for covering. Yeah you have a dream. If y'all, I mean I feel like you guys probably already knows about me from listening to the podcast. I don't have really good memory, but I feel like, I'm like the

same. Like, you just like if I listen to something before I go to sleep, I don't like dream about it. So I think me and as our own like a 17 K-pop Those spills I would have, I would listen to their music and then like, just something random with them like eat it. Nothing involving each any members, but it will be like, I'm listening to their song in my dream and then, I'll wake up something really weird.

But I haven't, I don't think I've had anything come true or like anything that I really vividly. Remember though, ding. Yeah. All right, Nancy. Do you have a meat for me? Honestly, my dreams like I can't really point to one dream because I just my dreams are so random and they just don't really make any sense. It's like a lot of scene changes and just like flying and like honestly, like just weird stuff that I don't know where it comes from the morning.

I'm like, what was that? Like, I honestly my just have weird random dreams like, and I, I can't point to one in particular that I'm like, hmm, um, I'm trying to think of what I dreamt about last week. I'll say one last week, but no, yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay, this is another stupid

dream. So this was when I was like a teenager, I think, and I was playing guitar at the time and I in my dream, I was trying to get my guitar case with my guitar, in it, into the trunk of my car, and I had a Mazda 3 at the time. So it was like kind of a little bit, had to shimmy it in because we yeah, bigoted are in the smoker anyway and someone came to help me and it was Bill Murray, Bill Murray came out of nowhere and was Like I let me help you put your guitar in

your, in your car house. And in my dream, I was like, oh my God, you're bilberry. And I was so excited and I took a selfie with Bill Murray in my dream and when I woke up, I was like, oh shit. I gotta send that selfie to, like all my friends and family that I met Bill Murray because it was so deep like the incestuous, so deep that I was like item. I met Bill Murray and I took a selfie with him. So I went a literally went in my phone. I was like looking for the

selfie. And I was like, oh no! Oh my God! It was a dream. Like I literally get the calm down was so harsh because I thought I had met Bill Murray and so this day like I think

that dream was to real. Like it was too Vivid because you know how Bill Murray like is like effervescent and like goes wherever he wants it shows up, I hate weddings and stuff like randomly so it was it's like within reason that like Bill Murray would have been like in his parking lot that I was trying to get my guitar in the car and I was sweet. But did you were you watching something with him in it? No Bill Murray up here. A drink. There was no provocation just I was here.

I teach my beard anyway we've gone on a little bit of a danger but that's okay. I initiated it. Do you guys I felt like this show reminded me of like other TV shows and movies that had like a similar plot line. Do you, I was trying to like figure it out. So here's what I came up with. Okay, okay. Okay. These are cells. Okay, other TV or TV shows and movies about premonition / dreams. So, we have, yeah, the movie Premonition with Sandy right in Tripoli, right?

I was thinking about that. Yeah, she's yeah, we have butterfly effect with Ashton Kutcher and give me Smee that movie, scary them, that movie F me up. Okay? Okay, I can't see we have That's So Raven. Just teach me. Oh my gosh. Classic. We have the character Alice Cullen from Twilight who can see into the future. Oh yes. That's that's his favorite movie. Yeah. Favor we had our he's okay. She hates it. Just wasn't like it was like oh shit. We'll leave that at the. Abel. So yay.

We have also Minority Report which is like a dystopian future with Tom Cruise where he's like, yeah. Arresting people. Based on crimes, they haven't committed yet because the precogs and all that crap, like it's like really interesting but already were then the last two I like, couldn't stop laughing as I wrote them down. So I'm going to try and get through this without laughing we have next with Nicolas Cage. And Jessica Biel Okay, ever seen

that movie. Good, don't watch it, don't watch it. It's okay. So he can see a few minutes into the future, but he's a magician in Las Vegas. Like that's how he uses his skill. But with Jessica Biel's character, the, you know, female leader, whatever, he can see farther into the future. And like all of this stuff happens where he's trying to like stop an apocalypse.

Oh gosh, I have feelings about Nicolas Cage, movies, Literally the worst movie but I remember because it was so stupid, right? It was so like dumb. And then I, lastly, I have Déjà Vu with Denzel Washington. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. We're he like just I have wacky time. Oh yes, for sure. What do you have Final Destination? Because that movie and all of them. Oh my God. Right? Yeah. Right. I cannot go past the truck on the highway. Because of that movie.

Yeah, I think much like a one and a half of the because it's like they have like multiple movies in that franchise like the Final Destination franchise and they're all like really gruesome crazy ass. Yeah. That they have a good one Oriel. That's good. It traumatized. Okay. Perfect. Okay, is there anything else that you want to add before I talk about the osce and then we can give our scores. No, thanks. Oh ok. Ok. So I love this osc. I don't know how you guys feel

about the and see what. I love it. It has actually two songs from Susie and two songs from each jung-sook on the OST. Oh I don't know that he's saying to me. Yeah. And then my favorite song is the one from Henry which is all in English. Oh Henry. That was your the right time at the right time. Okay. Okay, okay. I like that one. So yeah, I love it. And I will like, actually say that when the song came on.

The first time I was like, God, this sounds like Henry and then I go look in the OSU on Spotify and I was like, yes it's actually Henry. Like damn, I'm so good. The city was built that boys. All right. What did you guys give this show out of five Soju bottles. Um, okay, so I did 3.5 out of 5 Soju bottles. Okay, okay. Um, yeah, so I thought it was a good show, I just didn't think it was a great show and like you said, Jess, the first two episodes for me, I was like,

wow. Like this is I don't remember what episode of our podcast were. I'm talking about, it were real but like we're talking about how we like just started the show and I'm just like, wow. Like this is the best show ever. Like the first two episodes I was like, this is amazing. Like this is going to be one of my favorite shows. I No it and then like as things went on, I was like huh? Okay. And I was kind of bummed because I was expecting just of

expecting more. I was going to war but the things they did well they did really well. Yeah but yeah. Like I definitely have some qualms but like I like I thought it was like a good child think. It's a great show. It's not like I want to call it like a favorite of mine so that's why I gave it like a 3.5. I kind of like put it kind of like in the middle of the road and like if I had to rank all The dramas that I've ever seen like a kind of be land somewhere towards the middle because like

it was good. I'm glad I don't regret watching it. I have no regrets because it was on my list and I think it's kind of like one of those shows that like you probably should watch but it wasn't a favorite. So yeah, so 3.5, okay, I kind of broke the rules with Minds just you may say, I don't know, I gave it to .89 Soju bottles. How many as eight nine? I don't know. Three. So I was just like, 89 sounds great. Okay, that's all I got, that's

good. I'm gonna go with 30 give it three and a half stars as well as because it had here's the thing. My sister asked me today because you watch the last two episodes with me and she was like do you like the show? And I was like I do and I don't Ryan I told her if I had watched this a few years ago, I would have loved this. Like I would have been right up

my alley. Yeah, I'm watching it now like after a few more seasons of having watch kdramas and having watched these actors and other things and I'm just like this is not like doing it for me, right? So I feel bad because I know for a fact that I would have eaten the shit up like in 20 years now. I'm like no. Like this is not a yeah. Yeah. Think we're jumping is always standard right dog and he's the highlight of the whole Tire experience taught to you.

Talk about me, what's up? Yeah, but yeah, no, I agree because I was thinking like, I feel like if I watched this like early on in my journey, I probably would have been like this is the best show ever. But I think, because I've seen so many and I know like what these actors can do. And I've seen, like, similar plots, like, done, done better. I'm like, I know that something like, this could be done better.

I know. There could be like a tighter story, so that's why I was like yeah, it's 3.5 so, yeah. Okay. Can I make a request? Best for you golf. I think that's very sad. She may watch this eventually, but just based off your comments for Susie, can both y'all watch uncontrollably van because I love grunting them. That I've seen uncontrollably fun. Did you like it? Did you like it? Uncontrollable melodrama.

Oh, okay. So let's talk real fast about the show before we get into spoilers for a while you were sleeping. So, yes, uncontrollably funds is very, very sad. Okay. Does not have a happy ending for people who are like wandering or should I watch this if you don't like happy, if you need the happy ending, do not watch and uncontrollably fun. Um, I felt that it was okay, right? Because it's also her being like a journalist Like she was in my room sleeping. Yeah, but it's just so much

emotions. Like running through the show. I don't know if I would like necessarily recommend it to somebody who's like, just in it for like the rom-com stuff. Like, it's not a wrong. Yeah, I would love to re-watch uncontrollably van to see how it holds up and how I feel about it now. But I think at the time that I was watching it, I was just like very calm Confuses the wrong word but I was just like dumbfounded. I was like, is this really happening? You know, I was like what is going on?

This is getting way out of hand and then you just you're just like okay I guess. Like that's that was the show. It was just Like everything all at once. Yes that is just that's like my top. I think it's my top two it's what I love that drama. Like it was number one for a minute. Yeah I love that drama so much. I love like soaking and emotion but then I need something happy after by Life beer emotion. Like the same thing with not rain or shine just between

lovers. That's really like a lot too but I don't know. I just I liked it and then the ending I was just crying and I was like, oh good. There's some crying B in While You Were Sleeping as well, but we're just gonna get, we're going to turn ourselves completely loose on the spoiler side so you do it. You, if you're ready, let's do it. We're going to head into spoilers right after this. You want to come in? All right, we're on the other side of spoilers, guys. So anything goes.

If you don't care to be spoiled on while, Sleeping then keep listening. We're going to go all-in. So ladies where would you like to start on this show? I actually, for early on I was like this is kind of heavy on the law stuff on the yes. You'd roll aspect of Law and Law and Order or whatever. And yeah those are not my favorite dramas. So anytime like that happens. I'm like immediately kind of taken out of the drama a little bit because I was hoping for a little more.

More fantasy side. And certainly there was like, a lot of fantasy because of the dreams, the shared dreams. But right, I'm not sure if I was necessarily too invested in the whole paperwork there. He's a prosecutor side, right? If you feel me, however, we did see some startup. Actors in this show and of course, like startup came later. So the domestic abuser husband from like early on he was in Yeah, he was in start-up he was like the stepdad who was like

rich and stuff. Oh my God, I knew he looked familiar but I don't do you to break like it. He breaks his name plate. Like, on his desk. Most, I've gotta remember. Yes, I was like, oh my God. And then obviously Kim sohyun from love. Alarm is armed. Sucks. Don't watch Love alarm people terrible. I have walked away I know run run don't walk away from level or okay she is so I think that the bus explosion sequence. Do you think that it's some other like kid and it's not it's

her. Yeah wild. Yeah. It's like an extended flashback for her kid and you think it's a like a little boy but it's not it's her. That's a part of big reason why I didn't like Susie and this role because Ken I imagine Susie getting like a pixie cut and wanting to be a baseball player in passing off as a boy and stuff. Like no, again, no really dive into that really? It was just kind of like, so, did you take have like a tomboy face? Exactly.

She had like a tomboy phase and it never came back around to, like, right stylus on this idea that like Susie was a tomboy. And what like, she doesn't really follow baseball anymore. Like, what's the deal? Like, how did she go from like gun who I want to be a baseball player. You now she's like a very voracious journalist, right? Right. So I would have, we agree, there's like no connection to them.

I guess, because of the trauma of her daughter at her dad dying, and like the bus explosion and the dreams and stuff. Like, but again, like, it doesn't, like, why was it so extreme? Like, she cut her hair, she was like dressing, like a boy, and she was a correcting people when they were like, oh, that little boy over there. Like she didn't write that. She was like, whatever. Right. So I thought that was a big hiccup for me. Me. You got jhn, like punch her in

the face and I was okay as well. Yeah, right. Right. As well as her as a child. And she just said she was like, yeah, I needed that. Like, what? Right? This is like ha. Like oh man. So I think that I don't like how they started having dreams about each other and then it seems like this supernatural.

Phenomena was like contagious. Yes, yeah, so because she had never saved anybody up. Until that point with using her dreams that nobody else had started dreaming about her because they didn't know that they weren't saved by Susie's character whatever. Yeah right but it was not until You know, John sucks, character saves John Haynes character, that junk hands, like it feels so much gratitude towards him that he starts dreaming about him, right? And then, at the end, everybody has dreams.

It's like, you get a dream and you get a dream, you can write, right? I thought that there was no, like luck. Sure. There was logic, but it was not very sad and logic to me. Hmm. Because everybody started dreaming about each. Other. And there was like no surprises, like the stakes didn't seen that high at one point because everyone was like, having alternate versions of the same scenario.

So, it was like, okay, right. You have one scenario, I have the other half and like, let's put it together and like, solve this thing. So, yeah, it just felt very easy and convenient writing wise to have everyone to start dreaming about each other because they've just felt so thankful to the other person who saved them. Like what and then why did jungkook's are having dreams so much later in life.

Like she's by that logic. You should have started having dreams immediately after Jesus. He will linger. Yes. And Sage saved each other in the flashback when they were younger. Yeah. Yeah. But just so much, like why? Like, it doesn't hmmm. I also wish, they'd, like explained why Hong Joo was having dreams. Like, they never explained, like, why she has premonition exactly. It was just like what she just born that way. Like, and didn't seem like her mom ever had them.

So it was like, Either right? So just like, well, what happened? Yeah. So I wish they explored that a little bit more 2mn. Director Choi, was he having dreams? And he just wasn't interfering until later and he said yes. That's exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Because as we need, like 20 years, he had and his first like dream or whatever was about his own demise. Hmm, which is like, how do you deal with? He seemed very calm.

Yeah, as well. Like he was like Like the friend is saying something like his partner, whatever is in the room and he's like you're not thinking of like committing suicide again or in his words he was like you're not thinking weird thoughts. Again, you and he's like no no no I'm not thinking that my end is much later. So he knew that what he had seen was a premonition and was like totally fine but he had seen his own death and a dream. Yeah. Yep. We're not going to talk about that.

Like there's nothing. I'm back here. Like well, yeah, just like yeah, I knew this was going to happen and this is The choice I made and it's like okay, like you her having dreams to like it was just it was so much. Yeah. It felt like they were just, you know, they were trying to write themselves out of like loopholes and like okay well they just had a dream about how they're going to die in a burning Fire Inferno. So how do we get them out of that?

Oh, so and sprays dreams, right, dumb it was dumb. I don't really understand that cuz he can have dreams about himself and Other people. I mean I guess I don't know how his work because all of their other three like there's one in the circle kind of they had dreams about one person to save them. He can't have drinks while himself and the rest of them. I'm confused on that but maybe I'm confused about how Hong Joo also piggy. Backing up what you're saying. Won't you was having dreams

about randos people like her? Yeah her power was I'm calling it a power but hers was different than everybody else is because hers was like I'm just having premonitions about everyone everybody and then you know Right. Right. And then datong has dreams only on her and seems we'll talk dreams about j.chan and then prosecutor under. Sorry investigator, Lee director, Troy Troy Troy, oh my gosh. But yeah, then he has dreams about J-Town, I guess because he

was the one that saved him. So just kind of like, so all these other people, our only link to the people that saved them but her, it's just like everybody and they never explained why, but they never explain why. And also halfway through the show she stopped having dreams about Other people, she was like, Ryan, I'm having dreams

about you going to work early. Like I know we're driving like, right, right when before she was just doing about old random man with a cigarette, he's gonna blow up or like, you know, her dad or whoever and she's like, so she's her mom. Like yeah, I don't know. I wish I'd got more explanation. You just seemed a little bit annoying to me that she never tried to, like, I'm sure you tried, but there was didn't seem

like a true effort on her part. To change these people's fate, until all of these guys start, like, circling around her. And I'm like, okay, that takes away. A lot of, like, her agency as a person, as a female character who, like, started this whole thing, like, she doesn't seem to want to do anything that she can, she's like a damsel in distress like the whole time even though she has the greatest power, right? I don't like that.

We agree. Yeah. You speaking of the plot hole like what is this? Asshole. They fill it with more dreams are just like, yeah, becoming drinks. You got a dream, you gotta dream a dream over me. So jeonghan, let's talk about this guy, amazing s. Oh, my goodness. So precious, he has a freaking Corgi. This is the first time I've ever seen a corgi in kdrama. The me too. At first, I was eatin corrugator. Oh, why is it so cute? And he has like a lot.

Like superhero and like Batman paraphernalia, like he's always like bring a Batman cap or a Batman shirt. Not always but, you know, towards the beginning of the show, in the end of the show, they have him like wearing like the superhero stuff, right? Yeah. And I found that so endearing and cute and he's genuinely just wants them to be okay and there's no effort on his part to try and woo her or try and cost issues in their relationship.

He was just like silently, loving her and there was something so So genuine about that, because a lot of the times you have a second lead who at some point turns like slightly like villainous or tries to call. Yeah, main couple. That's always, yeah. Becomes obsessive stalker, whatever. And he wasn't like that at all, he was actually very chill and I

feel like in real life. If someone has a crush on somebody else and they see no Avenue for like pursue or whatever, and they're feeling like their feelings are on what's the word? Not reciprocate, but it yeah, unrequited. That's it. Yeah, you're not going to go crazy and start chasing after them and like trying to break up this couple especially when you have this shared experience of the dreams together.

So like right now I feel like it was very believable for him to just be like you know whatever like never confesses to her or nothing, you know. Right. She was oblivious it's just makes him a better second male little get makes him the better man, you know. Yeah, absolutely. I do you have to talk about since we're on, we'll talk. Can we talk about episode 8? I don't know if you have specific notes for this. Just okay, episode 8? Yes so yeah. No, yeah. All right.

I was trying to build up looking but Dad for her so many times so many times injured for her. Yeah I was traumatized it was too much but yeah, he went Die for her. He would die for it literally would divert he is. So here's the thing, he got the date and time for from what's his face is dream. What's his name? Oh my God, let me get his name jhv turn.

Yeah he gets all this info from date on the stream and then deliberately walked in first and tries to stop the bad guy and he like holds on to his legs and like tells you to run and all this stuff like he's buying her time and like he did Is on on purpose. Like, he knew like everything

was gonna happen. Yeah. Oh my gosh, he's yeah, we got a real Lifeline out of this because they do also them feel really guilty like, J tan and Hong Joo. Yeah, who's extremely guilty about what happened and we have this line that says, like, only cry for a little while. Only blame yourself a little while in return, don't forget it for a long time. Yeah. He he like, of all this. Second male leads. He's definitely on my list of

favorites. He was such a precious little sheol and it's funny because like in a lot of like a drama like lists and compilation videos like that they always talk about like oh like the shows they gave us like the worst second lead syndrome and they always mentioned this show and after finishing the show, I was just like I understand why I like people love him like second male lead but I didn't

necessarily, I don't know. Like I I thought we were going to get like a lot more of Because I was like, the way that people talked about the second second lead syndrome. I thought that he was like, coming on strong. Like, yeah, love. Like I thought it was gonna be, you know, laying it on really thick, but he was so chill. So I was just like, oh, like he's super chill, but it's just like his character, his heart that it just like, it literally just makes you love him. So much.

His character was just the sweetest guy like it. You're just rooting for him the entire time and he never overstepped his boundaries. You never try to cross the line. He never try to like, take her to the side and be like, hey, I'm too, I just I need to tell you that I like you like you know, he never did that. Like yeah you know, like and I don't know like it was even like I guess towards the middle of the show, I was thinking like, okay.

Like I mean clearly has a crush on her whatever but then I start kind of daddy in the middle. Like, does he really have a

crush on her? Because I don't know, he's so chill about it. But then towards the end I feel like they kind of crammed all this stuff in like with like the pimp taking the picture of the Shadow and everything so I was like okay like I wish there was like a little bit more of this like sprinkled throughout because it was just it was really cute but yeah exactly and they've second lead of mine.

I think that and they kind of went back circled back and show the actual scene of him taking a photo of your shadows, now that they could have just done that throughout. Like they should have had that Stinger of him, like, doing something like, you know, doing something for her. Where were, you know, secretly, you know, doing x y z, because it would have helped that s like lead story line a little bit better, right? Kind of bridge some gaps, but we

only got that one. Still Care of him like taking the shadow photo of them, which was like, really cute. Like it was so cute, very adorable. Yeah. Like he's just like, oh my God, we actually look really cute. As Shadows looks like she's leaning on my shoulder and then like secret and she can't recognize her own freaking Shadowland, right? He's like who's that stupid? Like sometimes you're like oh yeah, she's smart. No, she's stupid. Let's talk about how stupid she is.

Okay. So look, my goodness. Final episodes. She I don't know why she insists on meeting attorney you bomb by herself multiple times. Yeah, when she knows from the very first episode that he's dirt, he's trash. He frames her for murder in an alternate, like, basically alternate reality. Because that ended up not happening. And she loses everything because of him and still, she decides. Oh, I'm going to like meet up with him and like, talk with him without any sort of like precautions.

And again, it comes back to bite her in the final episode. He drugs, her gets with the serial, killer tries to kill her like he's like expecting her not to make it so that he could spend the story. However he wants well like what the hell? Like what the hell was she thinking? Yeah, it was just like what you put yourself in a situation. Yes. Why would you put yourself in that situation? You knew you knew. She's so trusting. Uh it's like why is she the damsel?

She knows better. For the story. Anything I have to save the day reporter reporter Gene. She's like, I gotta go scoop it out for myself. What can we talk about? And I won't go to because I know we'll get it to him, but I have some thoughts on Sango poke that performance. He killed it, he killed it. One of the best villains I've seen in kdrama yali. I killed it. Yeah.

And they gave him a little bit of like remorse, because every time he would have some sort of trial, go his way or not go, his way, he would feel guilty and go to the bathroom and like scrub, his hands trying to wash himself of like, you know, the Dirty Deeds that he's been doing as an attorney. And like I don't know if you've, you know, interacted with attorneys and the in defense attorneys at all. But my mom. For a law firm, and she's worked for law firms, like her whole career.

And so I've been in and out of, like, Law Firm offices, and I just think that they kind of portrayed, this kind of weird because defense attorneys know that a lot of the clients that they have are guilty but you know, they deserve due process. That's their whole thing in America and in the you know, system that I've witnessed with a defense attorneys, they're like yeah sometimes they'll be guilty but But they deserve due

process as well. And that's like the leg that they stand on, is they they look to that tenant of our, you know, law system. Yeah. To get through kind of like a morally, morally, gray areas. I guess, is how to put it and he wasn't coming at it from that angle. At all like he wasn't like, well, even though they're guilty like they deserve. Have their day in court or whatever? No, he was like, yeah, like I'll get you out of it. Like right? He was check straight

villainous. Yeah, he was evil, he was terrible. Yeah, he played the heck out of that role like I was like wow. Like did you just want to slap him the whole time? Right? Because if you really can't stand him the entire time and yes but like just to kind of piggyback off of what you were saying it. Just like it did. Show that like okay like you do have a conscience because he

knows bad. Like wrong getting people off for like, and basically, literally going to, every time he liked, would refute the prosecution, with literally something he made up like a reach, like such a far reach. I'll just roll my eyes, if you like. Are you kidding me, right? Are you serious? He's like, oh, yeah. Like the guy didn't die because of falling. He died because of the autopsy, just like. Are you kidding me? Like what's wrong with you? Think about it?

It's like least. Like think about it like a horrible. Horrible person. Yeah, he played the heck of a lot role as the first time I've seen sign job in a shell. So I was just like, wow, yeah, he's let me see. He's been an eve. He's been in shooting stars. As a cameo, he was in doctors as a cameo. Which doctors is I think? Yeah, the dirt both of the directors worked on doctors. So he had already, you know, it worked with the directors before. He's also in the innocent man

with some doing key. Why? I think, is that from, Jimmy key? No, it's a show from 2012, so I go. Okay, really lay back. No, it's a throwback. And I really like that show. I don't remember, who the hell is character was, but he was in there, like you stay. I don't remember there and that's a good show, so, I recommend it, but yeah, I also was very taken aback. Again, I don't really like to watch the police procedurals and the prosecutor Seed rolls that they have in kdrama.

I don't really like that. Drama, the legal drama Leo job, but I just hate the fact that they're going through some of these trials and they don't have a jury. They just have a panel of three judges and like, that really bothers me because they're not being tried by like a jury of their peers but not being judged by a jury of their peers. Like it is in the US but in other shows, they do sometimes

have a jury. They do is like it, just like, it depends and I don't know what the Why it is or isn't that way sometimes but right, it's like a little bit frustrating like there. Yeah there are laws and stuff. Like if it's real then it's like what I did leave. I did like the court Sister Act Dance theme that one was really heavy, just you remember that? Yes, I do. That was amazing because yes, she goes, I love him and you do. I love drunken, hence, character in uniform, I'm like a man in

uniform. He's like fuck. Yeah uniformed you have a choir robe over that scene was hilarious. I feel like 10 times. Yeah it's good. That's a good one but yeah, I do agree because I'm watching um extraordinary attorney Wu and she had like a jury at least four episode one and I was like oh they do have juries and like quartz. So that's a good point. Yes, that's why I don't know why. Yes and why know sometimes but

yeah, right. Speaking of like, going back to this romance that I like, I don't really buy into, they try to up the stakes in the middle of the show around episode 11 when the mom suddenly, like withdraws, support from j.chan, like, what those so confusing and exhausting. Yeah, I would even like rewind and be like, did I miss something? Was going on with her? Like, yeah, she cuts him off. Basically from recuperating at the house for more than two days.

He got freakin Shot in the street and she's like, you're not saying more than two days, right? Like it's like for what? And then she basically and she steals the ring that he gave her, that he gets like aah. And she's like, oh, I'm thinking back to Susie's character because she was a wailing mess essentially when he got injured and in, she was crying because she made the reality worst. Like she changed her dream to the so that it was worse.

Ass off, then hurt him getting stabbed and all this stuff, and it reminded her of her reaction to her dad dying. Yeah, the bus crash or the bus explosion. And she says, like, sorry, I can't watch my daughter, like breakdown, like that, again, like, she's losing like her mind basically. Yeah, and I was like your daughter sees. So let's take, let's take a

break it out. So, your daughter sees the future in dreams and she suddenly can't have any intense feelings about her messing around with the future or her boyfriend getting shot. Like, come on, like, give her a break, you know, seriously. Like it didn't You, come on lady. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense why she was doing it. She did it for like multiple like episodes and she even does the same thing to woo. Tak it 1.2 and I was like, why are you doing this?

Like, she kept doing it people. And I'm like, you're being petty. Sounds like Petty. And then she even said like I'm sorry I was being petty. Like she stole a ring like she's thieving and stuff in her own house like no. No. It was funny that she was keeping score between the boys, I love. Yeah. So she was like those funny you like pickles? Cool. And then she doesn't bring down. I think he did. He did when he was like salty about it. He was like what is more points

than me outing? Yeah, jeonghan will always be the winner. Number one, number one. Yeah, yes. Speaking of some, of the cases that they went through. So I found the case where they had to choose between the autopsy, doing the autopsy, or doing the organ transplant. That one was really emotional and intense and in all the good, good ways. Right? Because, yeah, I feel like they put that other prosecutor on the under extreme pressure.

And she ends up showing extreme empathy toward The parent who lost their son, the parent, who like, had their son murdered, she was like, you know, I think that they should do the autopsy because if I look at it from the Tas parents perspective, like I would want my child, like I want Justice For My Child, right?

And it was, I think that kind of thing should have been explored a little more like maybe some of these stories should have had that look like angle where someone else has to make the decision. Yes, or no? Oh, to do x y z because it seemed like that was more meaningful than jet on making the call. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. Because her son was like supposed to get the transplant.

He did get the transplant l so it ends up being like not an issue because they do both at the same time to translate and the autopsy and I was like okay that was a little bit of a letdown because like you want it to be one or the other, but they end up doing both. So I'm like, okay There was a lot of that in the show, where it's like, oh we have this like dilemma and then like, they choose a very obvious like alternative that's like, yeah, it ends.

Get everyone lat. Yeah. Like everyone gets a win-win throughout the show. Yes. The beginning of her love story though, the other prosecutor and the other prosecutors love story. They had the better. They had the way better love story. Yeah, they're asleep. They had the best love story. Yeah, these are dating in the office and stuff, and yeah.

You know he's very supportive of her when she's going through all that stuff with her child right in a medical emergency you know, like this is serious stuff and he's very he's there for her and he keeps her secret and he's advocating for her so it's way better of a story for them to get together then for our main couple to catch feelings and get together way.

So what you know about the the prosecutors I got together on the side As I seen on there in the elevator was really funny because like, she was, like, really sad about like me was going on with her son. And he was just like, yeah, like don't worry, like, I won't say a word, like, I'm really tight-lipped and he's like, if I wasn't tight lift, I wouldn't tell you that prosecutors should is a Buddhist and prosecutors

so-and-so gets fillers. I started spilling some cheese there and she got distracted and it was like, very excited about this, like Jesus in Spanish, it's cheese me. So that's why these cheese. Yeah, no, he's are spilling the tea and their, the elevator has, what should, like, what mind off of it? Yeah. So, Kurt her, you know, she was so fixated on the transplant and her son and stuff, and he was like, um, did you know that?

So it's okay. It's pillars that she was like, I beg your pardon, it was really funny. Yeah, it was okay. I want to go back to ditch on because I'm sorry, John Haynes character because his big secret. Looking around to make sure no one's looking no, one hears this. It's a big secret. He's colorblind. Whoa, the blown up blown up y'all. That was the most. I was waiting for something else. I was like something else is coming. Hey.

See you like? I cannot wait to hear you guys thoughts on that because I was like is this is the big secret that his friend was going to reveal to the world that he was colorblind? His friend was being tried for murder and he was like I'm gonna tell your secret And I was like, all right bet let's hope this Secrets, juicy sweetie. He just can't see red and green, okay? Like it was not that serious. He was colorblind and that meant. He couldn't be a police officer

which I get that. He's gonna lose his career over it. But at the same time like in the context of this whole show, like we have murderers, you have to fucking serial killer in the final episode. Like what he's colorblind. And that's the thing, that that's the thing, the thing that I don't worry, but this whole case wide open. What else? Like what is? No, this was so weak. It was so weak. And my sister was like, because she saw the last episode she was like.

So I guess it follows that principle, right? That you always talk about and I was like, yes, chekhov's gun. If you introduce a concept or, you know, in this case, chekhov's gun, if you have a gun in the scene, by the end of the scene, you have to shoot the gun. So, in this case, they had the color blindness. And at the end, the colorblind is comes into. Play, right. He again like I said, it ends up being a win-win. He reveals that he's Colorblind

on the stand. He does not lie in perjure himself and loses his entire career and still the case is one. It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things and I was like, okay there it is. This writing that's like oh it's got to be one of the other A or B and then they're like how about H like they're just like let's choose something else like and it's not a big deal. Yeah, I'm so sorry wild and also frustrated with that, yeah, it

was weird. Also like I get that ended up kind of coming back around with like being able to identify the umbrella and everything, but that could have been entirely left out. I don't under like, that was not. I was like, did he kill someone when he was like a teenager like, what did he do? Yes, I wanted it to be sole. Shh sighs. I wanted gossip I want Hey, I got water.

Looks like he's colorblind like and I'm like, you're like, you're literally being accused of murdering somebody, you look, well, I'm going to tell everyone that you're color blind. Like what does it? How does that make any sense? Dramatic music. Like, I'm gonna tell everyone your secret and then to find out that secret is being colorblind. I was like, that is actually ridiculous.

It was like, you know, you could have chosen 20 other things, I would've been better than color blindness because it was, it was like, equivalent of like, oh man, like I'm gonna Take you down with me when you tell people that you had braces like what. But above all things, I had ordered Orthodontics. Like no, it was that like, out of left field. Oh man, oh man, oh man, like literally, that's what you thought like. Pop carry on, get it together. Girl, like, you had a better.

She had a better time to start up better time and dream. Higher than she did with this. This side plot of him being another plan. Oh my God, all of the twists in the show, they didn't land well with me. So this was one of them. I was like, yeah, like the big reveals kind of like that was kind of the trend like for me as well, just kind of like it ends up falling flat and you're just like, that's it like, Literally literally just it's so

disappointing. Like Anyway, investigator toy ends up being the cop that they saved from drowning back in the day. Of course, of course, like, it has like something had to be somebody that we had seen before, right? It's true. Yeah. How did you not recognize him though? I don't, I just think get that. But they found no, no, he was committing suicide and then it's been, I don't know what, 15, 20 years you're telling me, they can't ID this guy. Yeah, I don't know.

I feel so blowing that when it was revealed, like he saved them from that burning trailer tobacco thing and I was just like, why it could have been it. Somebody else like not him. Come on Mom. But yeah, no, you know what for me, like actually really wasn't. I wasn't mad at that. Like I was just like, okay, like, that's a cool, like, I actually didn't have a problem with it being him. I had a problem with what happened later. We'll talk about it, that way. What happened?

Okay, let's go for it. Go for it yourself, right? Okay, yeah, so I think I'm sorry, I'm not gonna lie, I like a massive I roll. When he got hit by the car, bro, massive I roll. It was very reminiscent of why her. So that's why I was like, oh, this makes a lot of sense with like this, the directors and the writers. Yeah. Because something similar happened and why her, you know, you know, oxygen, that's kind of like, yeah.

Just kind of like why like this Is so like it I just seemed like kind of like the easy way out very cliche. Very just yeah, I was so disappointed, that that's the choice that they took and I was like, of course he got hit by a car, so they label. So they were able to save tons of people throughout the show and each other, like, countless times. We, they can't save investigator Troy. They can't save this man. That's cause no one was dreaming about him.

Evidently you can only say something, Jun bok, choy. He died. Oh yeah. I'm so sad because the end it was you bum as well. Like attorney you bomb again like goes on a rampage and runs him down in the street. I don't know why he did that so I guess maybe he was already like I'm going to jail anyway. I don't know. Why would he good to you? Exactly. He was so like, um, What's the word he was so intelligent about, like, what to do and what not to do, throughout the entire day.

He was not trying to incriminate himself, even during the last bit of his trial. He was like, you know, I'm innocent. I didn't do this. Whatever. Maintaining her innocence and it wasn't until like his CEO or his boss who again we never seen before was like, right, you know, fool on is going to be here. Next time, I'm not going to do. I mean, I could be your attorney. Yep. And he found that so offensive. Been like maddening, I guess that he just like went off the

rails. When investigator Troy was like don't run just admit your guilt and like deal with it. Like you can probably get a lighter sentence if you just admit to what you did. And again that was apparently, so awful, that he runs like runs him over with his vehicle. In my mind, it was just the writer trying to come full circle. Because in the first episode you have that dream where he runs Junkin over in the street.

The hit-and-run. Run. So they were like, okay well he has to actually fulfill the destiny somehow. So then they he runs over investigator Choice instead. Mmm, wow. Just you a genius girl. I really like right there. Yeah, that that might have been their logic as to why they did that, but it was a horrible Choice, horrible. Like that wasn't terrible. The same thing happens to what's-her-face. Susie. So Seuss, character ends up in a coma in the first episode. Yeah. By the last episode.

She's Through a coma as well. Which seemingly wasn't even that bad of a deal for her health wise? Because she comes out of the coma remembers, everything about the attempted murder, the color of the umbrellas. She's walking around, doesn't need assistance. No brain damage to speak of. She's fine. Wow, Jess, you're in both in just in shock it out. Wow. Oh, no, I didn't mean to blow anybody's mind but that I didn't like that. They still stuck with the original like Destiny, like the

original fear that they had. Yeah, like he has to kill somebody by running them over with the car and like she has to pee in a comatose and all the stuff, like just doesn't make sense, just didn't? You didn't need it. You didn't need it, it wasn't necessary. Or I guess ultimately it also sells the idea that like, they opt, he could not fix. The fake, you know, that's right, right? Right.

It kind of, yeah, it kinda makes you think about like, you know, how, like time travel movies or like, even like Avengers and stuff and they're just like, well, if we change stuff here, it's Gonna Change stuff as gonna mess everything up. So I was wondering if like all the any of the things that they change would come back around. So girl you crack the code, you figured it out and I didn't. Mm, yeah, I didn't even think about that. But we're y'all that was a good

point. What you made about like why my goodness I'm gonna call him sign you off, I don't remember you bomb. I'm sorry you beneath me. Yes he hit investigator toy like cut off. Just kind of like y. Like it's like logically speaking like why cause you're already in trouble? Like you're already going down. So I was just like well you're going down with me or was it just like him just trying to like just seek revenge or be like you blow up my spot?

Like you expose everything, like I don't it just he didn't make sense. Logically, he didn't even seem that upset like after he parted ways with joy, is like and likewise talking about this car and you're just like, okay, conversation over we're done like he's going to jail, whatever know he comes flying through with the car like like and then he doesn't even like actually commit the hit-and-run. Like he doesn't run. He sticks around. They catch you 26 there. Yeah, I did it.

Years ago. Bird bar. Oh, goodness gracious. Here's another qualms that I have in the last couple of episodes. They introduced the serial killer, I knew immediately that it was a female serial. Killer, there was no doubt in my mind that it was a female. I don't know why, but I was like, it's a lady. They're looking for the wrong person, whatever. They have the wrong ammo and sure enough. It's a lady.

And the reason why she started being a serial killer and killing off the people in the hospital Ward was because she was basically jealous of them for getting better while she was you know getting through her illness and wasn't getting better and all this stuff. What was her illness? This is this really really irked me. Oh my goodness, her illness was Crohn's disease. It's funny but yeah, it was definitely a facepalm moment. I was like Crohn's disease that you can live with that.

I know somebody with crohn's disease. Of course, they avoid certain things. Of course, is painful for them sometimes and they get that are here. They have like lapses but as far as like, should there be open lesions all over their body and face like why? I don't know what the hell was that. What was that? They like got the symptoms of Crohn's Disease, all wrong. Looks like you can look this up. Like it should be, she was like, oh they took a part of my intestines and I was like, okay

I can understand that. Like that's yeah falls in love with crohn's disease, but then she was like right couldn't move like she was laid up in bed with all of these like facial lesions and see ya body like why are we having open sores if you had any sores, that would be on the inside of her mouth? Like it was like, right? I was like the basic like due diligence to look at this disease. Like right fit figure out what would make sense.

I wish it was like something more dressy like cancer, you know, in that respect, like maybe there were like a can't be cancer. Everyone does cancer in kdrama. Let's do something else. Right, they chose Crohn's disease disease. Yeah, it was bizarre like it was that was another anti climactic moment. It was just kind of like to just to find out that it's this lady. That was bitter that she was sick and other people in her room or getting better. And No one like aspect her.

When all right, the other people in the ward died. Yeah, it was, it was just weird. It was just like, okay, like, that's why she did it. But then like I also don't really like how they molded the story, like a rounded because, like, the random guy that like stole cell phones and like him. Having a daughter, like, that's passed away ten years before I was like, this was not necessary, but quite and that being the lead up to like the lady, it was just kind of like what is this? Keep going.

Keep going. There's more I do this work. Oh my God, guys. Son and stuff that I didn't like when I was switching umbrellas with people, then all of the stuff with the sun and then the guy who like was falsely accused and stuff to just build upon everything. You said Nez just yeah. All that whole thing mess lazy, it's lazy. Yeah, you know, Then investigator Choi said that you bum had the same birthday as his brother. His younger brother that like died. Every single thing is like, it's

just like, what the heck? Not honestly, nothing was making sense. What's the end? I'll be like it was. I thought I was a coincidence, has over and over and over again. And okay, dramas are built on coincidences. I get it. But this was too much, it was and there's a way to do it. Well, like, we've all seen.

Dramas that like kind of have this kind of similar thing going on, like there might be a mystery, there might be a crime, whatever childhood connection, whatever, but like it can be done well and it could be done in an intentional way and not just a whole bunch of Randomness and just like lazy coincidences, like we've seen it done well to. So to kind of see how they kind of constructed the story I was just kind of like, yeah, this is

not, this is not up to par. I would say if you want to watch something that's like a fantasy story that has some sort of like time element or, you know, trying to fix events that are not so good from happening. And that sort of thing I would go with either signal, which is a police procedural. Okay. Excellent drama. Definitely, recommend of my list or if you want yes, watch it or if you want to go more romance, you could go with tomorrow with you which starter my list to yes.

I know what this guy's name again, I love him. The gospel and you Joan, you doin it. I love him so much. I loved him from you to have and I was like, I love you. He's really such a good actor, stunning, such a great actor, highly recommend. No one talks about tomorrow with you, it's so good. So, those two I would definitely recommend for if you if this because we've really shot on this show, I don't want to wrap up this. They love it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. When were some good things about

the strut? I know we're coming to and then we're kind of wrapping it up. But like what were some good things about this drama that you liked? Well, I kind of know I'm like, you know, on other side, but I like the romance. Like one of my favorite scenes was like after the whole stabbing thing and they both met like the little Pond Park area, and she was crying. And then he gave her his tie, his shoes and raping her time with that's what their heart tears.

I was like you're really cute maybe in another drama with a different like writing team and stuff them to try it again. I felt like They were really cute. They were together it just for me. I thought they were cute. Don't know, I know you guys. I agree. I think they had a lot of cute moments. Like, really cute moments, like the tide, like the crying Look Down, Show tie, like the kiss in the rain and just like their, which didn't actually have their

right? I'm not through the cherry blossom kiss, which never happened it, right? That didn't happen yet. But the rain kiss, happy? Yes, yes. So let's leave They definitely had some cute moments but hopefully we can talk about our chemistry like a little bit after because I do have some issues. Okay? But no, I think they did have some really sweet moments. Yes, my name is sweet moment then we can talk about their

chemistry. So I liked that he watches over her on her way to work and he's like, oh, I'll take you to work and all this stuff and he leads her across the street, when she's really scared to return to her job. Because, of course, she saw her demise, and she was wearing the SBS, like, uniform or whatever and she was, like, I can't go back. Work. Otherwise, I will eventually die on the job. And, you know, she was very scared and he leads her across

the street. And sincerely says that like, yeah, I'll take you to work everyday. If that makes you feel at peace. And yeah, you can whine to me about protecting you if you want. And you know, he lets her hug him and it's just he's catching more feelings toward that point and it felt like that moment was very important for them. So I like that a lot. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, one more thing. I just have like one more sweet woman.

I love whenever they did, like, kind of like the juxtaposition between when they were kids and when there were adults, so, like the scene, when they were at the funeral hall, for inspector toys funeral, they kept cutting and yeah, that was bat. Bat, bat got me a little choked up up from that seed. And also like the scene that they had went.

After J tan got shot and Um like he was she was like at his bedside and they kind of like did the same thing like kind of like a flashback when they're yeah kind of like the chocolate chip, the child version of them and it was that was really, really sweet. Yeah but the funeral part I did a little choked up a little bit then but yeah it was. That was sweet. Oh sorry one more thing. This other sweet moment. This is Han. Woo Tak and his sunbae that I went when they think about it at

the end. Yeah. And what's cried in that scene. Yeah. Like that that I was literally, like, going like this, like I was like, oh wow, I agree. That was very emotional because he's saying goodbye to his longtime partner in the partner.

Like kept his secret, he knew he was colorblind the whole time was like helping him out and learn Like he just says a very poetic things like he's because he refers to the emblem of the public, the police badge or whatever and he's like this felt so heavy on me but I like did it, you know? Anyway and I you know, wanted to be a good, you know, police officer whatever. And it's just like, that's all right. I think I cry. Yeah. Like fryer.

He's a good like you're like, oh my God, he's about to fall over. Like he's just so overcome and I believe him like every time he's like crying or wailing or whatever and yeah, that goodbye with him. And his part I was like Bromance is alive. Like this is bleep. What a fool, like it's more emotional than like anything. Else that happened. And yeah, that was the most fun part of the entire show for me. I was like, Yep. This is this. It I was like, legit, like not.

Okay, yeah, mmm, yeah, it's good, it's good. Okay, Chemistry Between the leads rapid fire. Let's go. What do you guys think? I do. Now, I'm thinking back, I do agree with you guys because I was thinking, like, in the beginning, she was really clingy. And then she stopped being clingy in the next episode. He was in love with her, and I was like, yeah, you but you were mad at her for being clingy, then you became clingy. How did you fall in love with her? Was it the dreams? Was it?

Because her mother told you don't go with her. Like what happened? Yeah. Yes like there was yes, exactly. I don't know what to say but it was like, just, yes. Like there was no, where did it come from? Like, why was he suddenly not annoyed with her being clingy? And like, assuming that they were in a relationship in that? He liked her and all the stuff like, no. She was dilute for like five years. Those. And then he was like, boom. I like you. Hmm. For what?

Why? That's my puppy whistles when I can't figure out. Why the leads like each other. It's like, why do you like them? Why do you like she can't? Yeah, no reason. Uh, no reason at all. Yeah, no. Yeah for me it was something I was thinking about throughout the whole show because I was like something's off and I don't know what what it is but

something's off about this. I just and like I said before like they did have a lot of Sweet Moments like I like the way that like the Sweet Moments were written and everything but like It just wasn't it wasn't consistent from he was like very up and down like I wasn't getting that that that Sizzle like I wasn't getting like the fuzzies like yeah and I really wanted to because I felt like on paper like they look great

together like right. You know, they're both very talented, of course but it just wasn't I wasn't feeling it and honestly like I feel like hyung Jun will tack on more chemistry like yeah. I felt the chemistry between them. Even if feels like even those just friend the chemistry or whatever, he liked her, whatever unrequited but I felt like more chemistry.

Between them. But I was not feeling the Romantic chemistry, like, between Hong Joo and a town, like, at all, like, sometimes I feel like, but for the most part it was like, not really and like they have a great chemistry as like, friends that the, when the three of them were together, it was like the cutest thing like the two of them, I was just like something about this just feels forced. It feels unnatural like, I don't know, like there was something about it that was just off. Yeah.

And that sucks because their kisses were so good, right? Like it was a good quality kissing I guess. They were and still like the chemistry was in there and I would say that. Why are you guys laughing a really good quality kissing? I've never heard that before. I've never so everyone makes fun of like the fisheye kisses or like dogs kisses tile of Kiss. Ya almost felt like they didn't have none of that. So I was like, right. Okay. High-quality kisses.

So right, here's my thing, is that we've I'm gonna trade mark that, I You should? You said, they'll make it your thing you should handle, do it? Yeah, but we've seen Duncan Duncan, hey, Jung. Suk with other female leaves and he's had great chemistry with them. Like, let's look at w for instance, I don't know if you guys have seen that one but like he has great chemistry with Han

hyo-joo and that one, right? And it's kind of their chemistry, the drives the whole show because it goes off the rails plot-wise, but then two together like invested in them. Or he's like yes yes goes nuts. I have outside conversation about that. I have a question for y'all though. And maybe y'all can explain to me. Do you think that maybe he started to like her because plot twist at the end.

He was suspecting who she was from the ball cap so he was drawn to her, maybe from that, I don't know. Maybe maybe start to put things together. Yeah, he had. Inkling. For sure. They made it seem like he was like, Oh, I thought it was a boy when I was a kid. Yeah, it's he likes Idols Usher at the bus, stop again.

Like it does, it does it quite like, there's something missing here like, connective tissue that were missing between like, hey, I thought that kid that saved my life as a kid was a boy like we're stuck. The rest of your thought like okay I'm just gonna like go to work with her on the bus like yep. Yeah. Oh my God, you know? You know, II the way I took it was I thought he just, I thought she just wore him down. Yeah, you could say that as well.

Like that's the only kind of plausible explanation that I have come to, as well as that she kind of just like between the dreams being unrelenting and him like constantly being like bombarded with them, right? And having to save her multiple times in her just being, I guess endearing like this Behavior. I guess it should be seen as an earring, he was Okay, I kind of like you right? Like, okay, we'll see how this

goes like here. She's showing up to your coffee shop and getting you coffee and waiting for you and like just showing up wherever you are, you're like, okay, whatever. I was, let's see where this takes us. The one thing that I didn't, this last thing I'll say actually is he kind of when he gets shot he has this like, the extended voiceover. He's like I wanted to say this thing to you, but I wanted to tell you.

And finally, he says that he wanted to tell her That he was sorry because when she confronted him on like his commute to work one time, he said he didn't believe her, even though he had already experienced these dreams and knew that she was telling the truth.

You still told her, he didn't believe her and that she should feel guilty as a matter of fact, because if she's been having these dreams that come true, and people are in danger than she should feel responsible for trying to change her fate and trying to say these people. So their blood is on her hands as what he was saying. Earlier in the show and then during the voiceover he's like you know dying he's flatlining.

All the stuff he's like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that I should have just taken the umbrella that you handed me and said, okay, like I believe you and I will except, you know this umbrella because it's going to rain or whatever. Even though the forecast says, no rain. Yeah, I liked that. And he doesn't quite say this to her. I mean. Yes later on when he like comes to and he's like, there's that joke of Like him and the chief prosecutor.

Like he's like got his hands all over him and he's like, up, sorry, I knew that you're here. It's like as a joke later and she does show up and they kind of just, he doesn't say necessarily all this stuff that happened in the voiceover. He just says, you know, I I recognized you, why don't you say that, you recognize me all this stuff like, and go straight to their past with the suicidal Cobb and their dads died on the same day and all this stuff their shared trauma.

But he doesn't reference like this very important. Like I feel like that's very important for him to say like, yeah, I'm sorry I believe you and like I shouldn't have kind of made you become a superhero, like try and stop these things from happening because you know, it's not your response, not your responsibility necessarily to try and like block all these bad things from happening but then they also like he negates that by like become the. Yes he tries to stop all these

that things from happening. Yep. So yeah, they still like fall into the trappings of like, trying to like out outmaneuver the dreams and the future. Right. Right. Yeah, I agree. I wish that was Revisited because I was like, one of my favorite scenes until you find out that it was his chief prosecutor. Here's caressing. But I was like, how are we going to like, go back to that? Are you gonna talk to her about that? Yeah, like okay, no. All right. It's kind of messy, it's kind of

messy. Because she's like, I don't. What do you mean? And she doesn't wear the You know, the stuff and she's like, they don't go back to. Yes, she was there and yes, it was real. He wasn't like hallucinating after the surgery, right? See you tomorrow. So I still thought he was hallucinating, until we just talked it out. I was just like, oh, but like, but honestly like that's valid though because like it got like that's one of my clams too. Because of the things got confusing.

A lot of the time and you're just kind of like Even know what's real? It's like Inception. Like he's like, I don't know what's happening, I don't know what's a dream. I don't know what happened and like, it's it kind of, kind of, kind of became a lot to kind of keep track of. So, like I could understand that because that scene was kind of confusing. Yeah. Okay. I have come to the end of my notes because I feel like if we will just continue bashing the show.

Oh, no, man, it's just so much. Oh, last thing I'll say, Let me see if I can find it. The chicken guy who purposely killed his brother for the insurance money that was Kang Chi Yong from attorney Wu, who is now like a big heart throb now. Yeah. Oh that is him because I've been seeing his pictures around. Oh okay. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. And I was like oh he's like a villain. He's one of these killers that he's Prosecuting and he like killed like The cats or

something in the neighborhood. Like, you was like, running weird. It was weird. Did you like him as like playing a? Not a villain but I guess. Yeah. Like a villain character versus. He's usually like a sidekick character. Someone who's not necessarily good, not necessarily bad. Like I didn't attorney Wu. He's very sympathetic and people seem to really rally behind him. But in this one, he sleeps like a baby serial killer who's killing off siblings for insurance money.

So two different people to me. Because and attorney Wu I was like he's so charismatic like habla and then yeah. And here, I don't even. Yeah. It was it could be two different people to me honestly. Yeah. I yeah, I think he was unrecognizable a little bit. Yeah. Oh man. Okay, I got a lot of off my chest. I feel like this is a venting session. I hope you guys felt the same way and that you don't regret watching this show. I don't regret watching. It was just not this, excellent

drama. That I was led to believe, you know, right. Totally agree. I would agree with that statement. For sure, it's not terrible. I don't regret watching it. I wouldn't like tell people not to watch it. I just I was expect--. I had high expectations like This is like one of those like staple dramas at people, you know, like they say, it's their favorite and like it has generated so high. Yeah, like it's gonna be amazing. So then I watch it. I was like, okay. Hi little.

Sorry for real. Look, at the whole time, I'm watching the show, like, I like follow the story. I'll be like, okay, like how would a person do you want? Like, how you feel with the show that she's this like, um, it's okay. And I'll just like, what's wrong with they're like, What's the problem? Is that this point? I still like liked it like me, like five episodes in In and she's just a slight, I don't know. Like, you'll just you'll look, let's talk after you're done with it.

And then once I finish the show, I was like, I understand why she was just very well. I'm about it. Yeah, it's kind of all over the place but I kind of like this. Really how I felt about why her as well because like there's really good aspects to it. But there's also this like also what is going on here? So it's just like I liked it but I didn't like it and it's a great conflicted feeling that I had with that show as well. So yeah. Okay yeah. All right.

I do want to look more into those threads of wife. People liked it because I didn't really look into that. So, I'm going to do that because I know y'all y'all messin with us and let her know. Yes. Message us at ATC double pod, on all the social. Psych tell us what exactly were missing from the show this please, we watched all 16 hours. And I'm like, where's the wire people like up? I miss something here. Cause I'm not seeing it right? I feel so bad.

The first couple of episodes. Excellent, really good episode. Yeah, I can't in good conscience, like recommend the show. Anyway, that's a Nori. Thank you guys so much for coming. This is like a family reunions. I love talking to you guys. Yes, thank you for coming on. Making the time watching the show. I know it's real. Foucault to watch those outside of like your own, like personal watch list or your own podcast list. Like you're just like, oh, one more thing.

So I really appreciate you guys taking the time to do this and to talk, we've gone on for almost two hours. I feel so bad, but thank you. Where can we find you guys online? Yes, I do. I do want to Echo and say thank you just for having us. Hopefully we'll do this again. 3 Peak. Okay. But you can find us on Instagram and YouTube at Soul Sistas pot and yeah we Love pink here. Thanks so much girl. Yeah, we're so honored like this

was so much fun. So thank you so much for asking us to be on. This was so much fun. I'm sorry that we had a show that we ended up bashing but that's just how the way I feel bad. How the cookie crumbles? Anyway, that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been a TC presents daebak, a Rambles podcast. Try to hold back. You all. Don't know that you're the one. That's all. Falling too fast. Deeply, I love finding the magic. And the colors. Are you?

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