I'm Jessica and this is Tabot K Rambles where a couple of friends review Korean dramas and welcome back for another episode. We are going to be reviewing Connection. And for this episode I am joined by my true crime crime thriller bestie, Caitlin from the No Sleep for Dramas podcast. How are you, Caitlin? Hello, I'm good. I'm so excited I get a chance to talk about this. Oh my God, So girl, like we have been chatting on and off about this drama for a long time.
You're the one who put it on my radar because last year you said it was in like your top five dramas of 2024. And I said, whoa, what is this drama? So we kind of were talking through and we were like, we have to watch this drama. What if I, what if I covered it on Tabak? Would you come on and review it with me? And you were like absolutely, 100%. I'll come on and review it with you. So now the time has finally come. I have watched it for the first time. You have rewatched.
It. I'm just so excited, so excited. To talk. I'm excited because, yeah, when I watched this the first time, there were not a lot of people who watched it for various reasons. Like some of the dramas that were airing around the same time were a lot more popular. Some people might not be fans of G songs, so they skipped it. So like, I literally, it was like me and one other person on Instagram who were both watching at the same time and we were both messaging each other.
And I, I have to remember who it was because I don't remember off the top of my head right now. But we were both like, thank God you're watching this. I need to talk about it with somebody. Yeah. If you remember the game, shut them out. But I will, I, I'll, I'll look it up or maybe I'll give it to you after and I'll you can put it in the notes or something. Yeah, because honestly, this show, no, like barely anybody
was talking. I think I saw one person on TikTok talking about connection and really it was not in a lot of top ten, top five lists at the end of the year. Creators just were not talking about this. K drama. And I like to genre hop. I like to dip my toes into a lot of different genres. I don't just stick with romance. I don't just stick with slice of life. I like dark and gritty dramas and this one really grabbed my attention from the get go.
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the show. All right, so we're going to deep dive on connection. I have some notes. I'm not sure if you have notes or if you're just going to wing it because. I'm winging it. I usually do. Caitlin doesn't show up with notes, she just like wings it every time. And I respect that. I respect that. I really do. So we're going to start off as always with the My Drama list synopsis for this non spoiler
section, it reads. Detective Dong De Kyung of Onions Narcotics Unit is forcibly addicted to a mysterious drug as his body deteriorates. Reporter All Yunjin, his former high school friend, investigates a drug related death and crosses paths with him again. Their pursuit of the truth entangles them with Gung Hyung Groups vice chairman and a prosecutor unraveling a dark conspiracy tied to $50 million. As betrayals surface, Jake Young bows retribution. But who is the real mastermind
and who will survive the battle? This aired from May to July 2024. So happy anniversary, one year anniversary to Connection. Because when this episode airs, it will be, I think, a May 8th release. This originally aired at the end of May. But that's OK, We'll just give it the one year anniversary.
Happy one year. Some of the other dramas that aired around this time, you mentioned that maybe this would affect it. You know, the popularity of Connection. Midnight Romans and Hogwan aired May 11th and was airing around the same time. The Atypical Family aired May 4th and Crash aired May 13th. So some other dramas that we're cooking around this time, there's other ones too, but I just thought, oh, these were like a little more popular than maybe some of some of the other
ones. This show is 14 episodes long, 1/4 and it looks like it has two directors, Kim Moon Kyo who's directed Trolley and Lovers of the Red Sky and Quan Dassam who's directed My Demon and Trolley. So these directors have worked together twice on Trolley and Connection. It's written by Ehion. For some reason it looks like this person has only done 2 projects, Connection and Diary of a Prosecutor. Wow, that's a very, very different genre.
So so you've watched some of these shows like have you watched Trolley I? Have actually not watched any of them. Trolley has been on my list forever because I've heard very good things about it. I have not watched Diary of a Prosecutor. I've heard, again, very good things, but it's more of like a slice of life for a prosecutor's life. And so I'm very wishy washy when it comes to slice of life genre.
So I just haven't checked it out, but a couple of people have been like, dying for me to watch it. Gotcha. So, yeah, yeah. All right, this show does have a large cast, a large ensemble cast, but I'm only gonna focus on two people right now. We can talk about other ones. Maybe that drew your eye in the cast, but we have Ji Song as Zhang Jakyong. He's the cop. He's been married to actress Eboo Yong since 2013. They've been dating since 2007.
I hear from people in my DMS that this is a nice couple, that they are, you know, well liked, well respected in the industry. I have watched her in some dramas as well. Ji Song has 6 movies to his name, 23 TV shows to his name including Adamas the Devil, Judge, Doctor John, Familiar Wife, Kill Me Heal me. Would you believe me if I said this is my very first G Song drama? Yes, I actually would. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I also have not watched a lot of his famous ones.
Like again, the Devil Judge has been on my list to check out forever. I still haven't clicked play, so I actually am not really surprised by that. Yeah, here's what I'll say about G Song. I have always known of his existence. I know of his, you know, career. I have seen the posters, I've seen the trailers for his shows and have just never, ever felt the urge to press play on anything, whether it be the plot is kind of like I never felt drawn to any of his projects.
And maybe it's because in his younger years, I kind of didn't, I think he looked very attractive. This sounds weird to say because he's not ugly to me. I just don't maybe. And I said this in Adm to somebody because they were talking about how hot he is. And I was like, he looks like a gecko to me. Like, you know, some people just have a look to them and there's no rhyme or reason. You're just like, that person
reminds me of a llama. And like you're just like, there's no, it's, it's irrational. Geez. It just looks like a gecko, a very angular gecko face to me. And again, a very rational thought. I have no beef at all with G Song. However, I thought in connection him being, oh, what is he like in his 40s now? Has he has to be like in his 40s him, in his 40s him? With he's almost 50. He's 48. Oh, 48. OK, so he's 48. He's 48. OK, so he's 48 years old.
And him with the police. Get up with the chunky black jacket. Listen to me. I was salivating. I was like, this is it like, I love this look. I thought he was so hot. Sorry. Like, sue me. I thought he looked so attractive in connection. Maybe it's just, you know, age meeting the right aesthetic look, right? I don't know. I don't know. But him and connection really connected with me. Nice one. Nice one. Yeah, yeah. OK so his main Co star is Chon me though she plays O Yunjin.
Quickly going back the the dramas I have seen him in Oh yes, please were well, obviously kill me, heal me. That's like one of his most famous roles ever. I don't remember much of it, but I definitely have watched it. And then I've watched most of like his more crazier dramas like secret, which is like a Uber mahjong crazy, crazy drama, which I probably need to rewatch.
Defendant I've watched is a unbelievably good crime drama like this is probably defendants my second favorite role of his, but it's one of those like really, really well acclaimed crime dramas and he's the star of it. And then that's pretty much it. That's I've like watched a really, really classic and then some more classic but crazier, crazier dramas of his. Any of his more recent ones I have not though. OK, OK, I thought you might have
watched some recent ones. The one that I almost feel like I was closest to pressing play on was Familiar Wife. Yeah, I've heard. I've heard good things, like if it's a genre that works for you, it's just not a genre that works for me. So I didn't click play on. Yeah, I've always wanted to watch Adamus, but I have. It's one of those things where I haven't heard anybody talk about the show, so I don't know if it's good or bad.
Which means I should probably just check it out, because again, connection no one was talking about. It true. The thing is, I think when no one talks about shows and we're like, man, I wonder if it's any good, you're looking at the people who should be watching it then. Because I think at this point, we're the people who are checking out shows and telling others. That they should have watched.
Them or not. Also, for like the longest time, Adamus wasn't available anywhere in the United States. It is now available, but it took at least a year, if not longer, for it to become available overseas. Yeah, that's the thing too, is that a lot of shows, especially older ones, may or may not be available in your region through reputable means. So you know G Song? Also G Song has been famous for a really long time. Really long time. And I feel like a lot of people
might not know him. Right. Yeah, yeah, because it's not necessarily he doesn't, he hasn't like stepped back from making noise. I think he makes at least like once A1A year. He already has one lined up for next year. I don't think it's coming out this year, but he's not a traffic star per SE anymore, whereas back in the day he was.
I mean, I wouldn't say he lost any of his fame because as you said, he's he and his wife are very beloved in Korea and they go on variety shows all the time, especially the married ones. But I would say he's not the traffic star that he was 15 years ago or something. Right, right. So that's Jason. His Co star John Middo plays Oyunjin and she's only been in like 4 dramas and I remember covering her in Hospital Playlist. This is where people will know
her best from. She's the neurosurgeon in Hospital Playlist one and two, she has a background in theatre. Hospital Playlist was basically her first major TV role and obviously she can actually sing in real life. She was in 39 in 2022 and I was pleasantly surprised to see her in episode 1 of Connection and she plays just a huge role throughout the show. What do you What is your experience with John Nido? So I started watching 39 but I eventually dropped it. So that is my, that was my only
prior experience of her. And of course I've heard of Hospital Playlist, but that's not a genre I will ever watch, so I'm never going to be watching that. Yeah, but. Medical slice of life, right? I can't imagine that you'd press clay on that. Right, I actually did try just because I was curious about it and I was like Nope I need like trauma code version of medical show, not this. Not this. It's so light and sweet and they're singing and it's like, OK. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, this is really my first full drama I have watched of her. She was great in 39. I did like her character in 39 but the story just didn't work for me. OK, yeah, it didn't work for a lot of people. I I never. Yeah, I know that a lot of people dropped that drop. A lot of people were bitching about that show anyway, So tell me though is in this show and is there anybody else that you wanted to cover from the? Yeah, I want to touch base on Quan Yul. OK, OK, Talk to me about South.
He plays Pactigeon. Yes. And the the reason I want to point him out is he had a really big year last year. Oh. Did he? Yeah, he he's always been around. He's always been supporting characters and kind of just showing up everywhere. I mean, he was in voice, he was in Connection, he was in Dolly and the Cocky Prince. Like he he's been acting for a while, but last year it seemed like he was consecutively in a
drama like all year. So last year he was in frankly speaking, which was just a guess role and that aired. It was in May. So around the same time of connection, then he did connection, then he did Sweet Mobster, which he was ironically also a prosecutor, I think. Because he did it so well. Yeah, and I think Sweet Mobster, like, aired right after this. Like it was connection and then it was Sweet Mobster. Yeah. And then he showed up in Cinderella at 2:00 AM.
It was only a couple, like a guest role for a couple episodes, but he was consistently on people's TV. Screens for like. Six months. That's the way you got to do. It right, which that was a lot for him. He only does like two or three or one or two dramas a year. If you look at his MDL. So like to have three dramas was a lot. And so I remember just, I remember when I was commenting of like, wow, he's doing a lot this year. And it's like good roles, like it's ones that people remember
him if they were watching. Every voice. Yeah, that's where I know him from. I was introduced to him in the Voice franchise, which they're making my. Fairly from 2009. Oh yeah. Dude. Oh, he was in Let's Eat too. No wonder I thought he looked familiar. Anyway, so that's our cast. Anybody else that you wanted to talk about? Well, you have Kim, King Nam, who people love and know very well, and then you. Have I didn't know.
I mean, I know that he, I was surprised he was in this cast because he hadn't done a drama in three years like this was, and I couldn't remember if it was because he did the. Military. Or he just was. Where Stars Land, About Time, Come and hug me, Prison Playbook. So I remember him from Prison Playbook, which there's an episode on that. Yeah, and Come and Hug me was a very prominent role for him too. He was also in defendant. He was, You just mentioned
defending. He was defended as CL's secretary. I don't know. Yes, yeah. And so, yeah, this was a this was a surprise to me because like, he hadn't done the drama in three years. And I was like, oh, you're in this drama. Interesting. OK. And it was a role I had never seen him do because I don't want to do spoilers, so I'm not going to say what his role was. We'll be doing that later. And then the last person I want to mention is Jung Yu Min.
She was the lead from my perfect My perfect Marriage Revenge, which again, like my perfect marriage revenge was her like comeback drama. She hadn't been in the drama for years. And then she pops up in this and I'm like, oh, you're like riding that wave. Like people were excited to see her because they had just come off of perfect marriage revenge, which she was excellent in and I think she was excellent in this one.
So I find that it's I, it's funny that like a, a bunch of these support characters have been acting for a really long time and kind of use this as a comeback. It was. A nice vehicle for everybody. Yeah, because it like it was an ensemble drama. Like obviously, yes, it was about G Song and the trio of him and we'll get into that. But like the the other supporting characters that you had still had pretty prominent roles in this. Yeah, no, because how of how
well written it was. Right, right. Yeah, so. I just wanted to point that out, all right? Do we want to go into the awards it got? Oh, sure. Really quick OK, so I'm if people don't know I, I watch all of the Korean drama awards on New Year's Day, like I'm marathon them and that is like how I start out my year every single year. I've been doing it for five years. So I watch the SBS, I watch the like the three major networks. So this one, this is.
SBS. This is SBS so Jung me Do won the top Excellence Award for a specialized genre or action miniseries, and I want to say this was like her first award she had ever won ever She. Barely has a career. Not that she barely has a career. She barely has a resume, especially compared to a lot of the cast. Yeah, like this is the same network that aired Flex Cop and Good Partner. Yeah. So like Good Partner was winning
a lot of awards. The judge from Hell was the same network, Fiery Prince was the same network. So let's see Kuan Yu one as a supporting actor, Kim Kyung Nam 1, You Some Bong 1 and Jung Yu Min all one for best supporting actor. So basically all the friends and Kimmy Ju won best new actor Kimmin Ju, which is one of the high school students. With. The one of the actors who played the high school students and then it won best drama of the year.
Like it won the big, big award for the drama thing. Obviously G Sum was up for day song, but he didn't win. It was good partner, which made sense. But yes, these award shows kind of are like everybody gets an award type of thing. But that's how I feel like I never it was. Yeah, yeah. I never report on that. I know everybody wins one. Yes, it would be as if a network, as if The CW was giving out awards for all The CW shows that aired that year.
And it's like, OK, it's just a pat on the back of the network. So I never kind of put stock in those. But yeah, absolutely. I feel like these people are definitely deserved some recognition, especially at the larger award ceremonies like Pak Song and the Blue Dragon Awards and stuff like that. The but they it did not. Right, it didn't. But what I will say though is given the competition of last year for SBS with good partner everything, I was surprised they even got awards because good
partner with the ratings. This did really good in Korea, but good partner, like swept it out of like swept everything. So I wasn't expecting anybody to get awards at all, let alone be nominated so. Yeah, I was looking at the ratings for it and it was good for basically consistently second place in Seoul and nationwide. And so I was like, well, that that's not bad at all. It was, it ended up with like 14% of viewership.
So that's fantastic for what it is, and considering nobody in the international audience or the international sphere was necessarily talking about it. So this show did fairly well. So yeah, I'm going to switch gears and ask you, what did you think of Connection? I think everybody knows what he thought generally, but you know, please, in your own words. So for me, it's nearly a perfect crime drama. For me, there was one thing at the end I did not like and I did
not think was necessary. We can get into that, but I can ignore that one thing. So I will say it's a 5 out of five for me. I, I can, it wasn't necessary. I could have done without it. Rewatching it, I kind of understood more why they put it in there. But my first like watch of this, I was like, oh, why are we adding this thing? It's not needed, blah blah blah. I gave it a 9.5 out of 10 due to that small minuscule thing that
they added at the end. I can ignore that now, but I say it's 5 out of 5 for me. Wow, so you're already giving it 5 out of five toju bottles and you have very minuscule complaints about it? Yes. OK, Yep, Yep. All right, I will go ahead and say I fucking love this show. I had a fantastic time with this show. I was messaging you throughout my watch in all caps. I was sending you really panicked messages because the experience of watching this was
second to none. This was a wild, wild ride. It was a Mr. A murder mystery. It was a crime thriller. It was a noir. It was just the seedy, underbill corruption. It was everything all at once. It wasn't just one thing. And I loved this paranoia, like running through it because of Chi Song's character, not knowing who to trust, not knowing who got him addicted to drugs and who knows and you know all these things.
Who can he trust? And I love the the concept of ethics and morality in not just the police force, but also in journalism with Tonido's character of Eunjin. I love that. I loved the friends group, who is the one that kind of like received all the awards. You named all the actors, but that ensemble group.
Really cool to see them in action and to see how all of the roles are split up because they each have a function within the group and you're not quite sure what they do until like, because it plays out right. Like you're just not everything is given to you all at the same time. And I love that. I love how they're it's drip drip instead of drip marketing drip storytelling you. Basically find out when the characters find out, which is in my in my opinion, the best way to do a crime show.
Yes, yes. And everybody knows, not everybody, but I would say a vast majority of people who consume Korean dramas and Asian media kind of understand implicitly that Korea has some of the strictest narcotics laws and are the hardest on drugs. If you do drugs outside of Korea and you come back, they can still pick you up for that. They will still go after you for that. People have gone down. People have committed suicide over getting drug allegations thrown at them, right?
It is like a death sentence for your career in Korea. If you are some sort of entertainer and you get caught up in drug allegations and the fact that this is a narcotics unit and the cop is the one that got addicted, I Oh my God, I was like living. I remember when they announced this story and I was like, how the hell are they going to pull that off? Because I know, like, just from what you said just now, like they have the strictest drug
laws. How is that going to be received by the public who's grown up in this society that has a very strict drug law? Because in like America, we have drugs in our shows all the time. It comes to like, because it's kind of dude. Your neighbor down the street is. Addicted to drugs? Exactly. Yeah, and they have a full time job. They they pay their bills on time. Like it's crazy here in America. Yeah, so I thought they pulled it off very well.
It like exceeded my expectations just because I didn't really know what to expect. Yes, yes, there is so much anxiety in this show. I love the reveals. The cliffhangers at the end of every episode had me pressing place it's so freaking hard. Imagine me watching this week by week. Oh no. I don't know how you did it. I do not know how you did it because it was so compelling. It was so engaging. I was guessing different things. I had all these theories and
then all this at the same time. I was like, I don't even know. Live and let God like I don't even know. Right, I just. Let him go. I likened the experience of watching this to watching Uncut Gems or Uncut Gems the Julia Fox audio. My sister reminded me of it the other day. Anyway, Unka Gems for those who don't know, is an Adam Sandler movie that is not a typical Adam Sandler movie. Like he could have been nominated for an Oscar for it.
It is an anxiety inducing ride that does not let up on the gas pedal I had to put. I told you this yesterday when we were recording. I had to put my head between my legs at the end of the the theater showing when I watch Uncut Gems because I was like hyperventilate. I like could not stop my heart from pounding out of my chest after Uncut Gems. So that's how I felt watching Connection, and I was so thrilled with every part of it.
I do have, like, little qualms with it, but for the most part, I loved it the way that it was filmed. Oh my gosh, yeah. My gosh. I thought it was so well done. It was visceral and tactile. The experience, watching him struggle with his addiction and with the withdrawal symptoms, him stumbling around, collapsing, disorientation, headaches, extreme sweating. He was pale. Like all these things were also told visually, like on screen and the way that it was shot.
I keep saying like the way it was shot, the way that it was edited. They had like first person POV shots. Yeah, yeah. I love those like every time they do this I'm like, this is entirely effective every time. Gives you that disorienting effect of losing control, losing your balance.
There's a shot, and this isn't necessarily a spoiler, but there's a shot of CEO Yoon. She has like a, a person behind her comes out from a hidden door behind her, looking kind of haggard and blocking what's in the room behind him because it's like a hidden door that he emerges from. And when he moves out of the doorway, it reveals what's behind him in the room. And it's a body that's hanging. It's a man strung up, evidently being tortured.
And it is so shocking. That's a visual shock to the audience, right? I love when they set up things like that. Right. And it gives you a like she already had a presence, but this adds to. Yes. Her presence and her lore of her character. Exactly. I loved it. It was she was so nonchalant, like she was in the foreground, just really chill. And this is happening behind her, some sort of henchman evidently killing or torturing somebody in this hidden room behind her.
I'm like, Oh my God, this adds so much. But I love the editing and the blocking of that. There's an elevator shot of the prosecuted character and G Song and G Song is behind and the prosecutors in the foreground and they do deep focus photography. I love when they do deep focus photography where it's both characters or both people. Foreground and background are both in focus. That's where deep focus comes from. And it's very Hitchcockian, right? Hitchcock used to do this all
the time. And you see the stressed dipshit prosecutor asking questions and nervous and then answering these questions back to G Song, who's behind him. You understand implicitly that the male lead G Song has the upper hand, right? Right. Yeah. It's just so effective. They changed the aspect ratio for flashbacks. They narrowed it with the bigger. Color grading too. And the integrating too. Yeah, bigger letterbox lettering on the top and bottom. Oh my God, just so expertly done.
I loved everything about it. So I love that the show was constantly surprising you and subverting exectations because it wasn't just like twist. It was like, oh, and here's something else about this character that you didn't know. Right, yeah, it reminded me of AI mean we I know Liliana has talked about this show and I also have talked about this show, but murder in something something tower.
It's the Chinese crime show. I can't remember it, but it this is the same thing is like all the episode. The first episode is a perspective one person and then you learn something about something from that perspective. And then they the next episode goes to the next perspective, you learn something new and it goes on like that.
This, this is kind of it's not explicitly like that in connection, but it I felt like it was like that because you again are learning as Joo Sung finds things out or Jung Bido's character finds things out. And then that show you learn as the cops who are investigating find things out. So it's the same thing. Yeah. Anything else you wanted to add before I I don't want to say too much else, I kind of just want to get into spoilers. Well, what's your what's your rating?
I would probably do five. I would also probably do 5 cool 5 out of five hold you bottles because I loved it. So you're like me, like you had some qualms with it, but like you could overlook them. I can and still give. Five out of five. Just such a ride. Yeah, yeah. Such a ride. And I, my sister, I think she was downstairs as I was watching some episodes yesterday and she goes, I heard you earlier and I was like, what do you mean? She's like, I heard you watching
that show. I heard you go. I knew it from all the way upstairs. I'm screaming. I knew it and like just it was such a great watch experience and my only fear is that if I go and rewatch it, it won't live up to the first time I watch it because I already know what's coming. Maybe you can speak to this because you've rewatched.
It I would say, I would say to some extent, yes, because yeah, like part of the first time watches, like you don't know what's coming, but you will notice other things that you might have missed. Like I said, I did, I still disliked the one thing in the end, but I noticed something about it that I didn't realize in the first watch that made me dislike it a little less. I still disliked it, but still.
So I would say if you want to rewatch this, give it time though, because you might forget some of the details, you know, because I I for sure did, even though I just watched this last year. I was like, Oh yeah, that's right. That's how this played out. Yeah. So, but yeah, I it definitely you lose that shock factor a lot of the time.
What are some comps maybe that people, if they're on the fence about watching it, if they've watched these other shows or they like to these other shows, then definitely. Watch connection. That's a hard question because again, this is like the first ever like drug drama. I've like drum K drama. I've ever watched defendant. I will always say defendant like it's just such a good crime drought and it's one of those things again, where it's like it's revealed after and after and after that.
Trying to think of ones that would be like shock value. I kind of thought stranger was a little bit. Stranger would fit in there. The Memorist probably is a good one that's like a little underrated, but it definitely went places that I didn't think it would go. I would say voice to an extent like that was a pretty. It's visceral in the way that this show is visceral. It is definitely gory and things this isn't as gory as voice at
all. Yeah, I would say that if you're afraid of blood and guts and butchering of people, really this, this show doesn't have that at all. Right. But yeah, I would say like defendant if you're looking for like the shock value, Stranger if you're looking for like the corruption part of it, voice if you're just looking for a classic crime drama. Yeah, yeah. Those are three I can think off of the top of my head. I'd add signal for like just a
fantastical. Yeah. Supernatural side of yeah crime fighting anyway we're going to break for spoilers and talk about everything that happens in connection and I can't wait to do it we're going to get back to it right after this excuse me I. Can't tell. I can't tell you know I have no signal. Oh sorry, swear. Discussing what? All right, we're on the other side of spoilers. We really have not talked about any details regarding
connection. If you do not want to be spoiled, you need to stop now, watch the show and come back later. If you don't care, if you want to spoil yourself, then fine, keep listening. Or if you've watched, then of course, keep listening. All right, the first surprise that I've wanted to talk about was that. I'm diving in, right? I'm. Diving right the fucking so join me though, who is you know the basically the one of the only female characters in the show. She was our hospital playlist
girl. Maybe we'll just call her hospital playlist journalist girl. You see her in episode 1. Yunjin is the name of the character and I was jaw on the floor because she is a corrupt journalist who takes bribes and can be bought. She's even extorting money from the guy sitting across from her who's like some representative from some company there who's done some wrong and I. Was. Shocked, because let me tell you something, she's like an Angel. In a. Hospital playlist An Angel.
So to see her in the show was a shock to the system. I loved how morally Gray she was. Yeah, and she's consistently morally Gray. It wasn't like just that scene. No, I remember being so angry at her character. Something really especially well, especially when she like is literally actually thinking about. Well, First off, yes, I realized she had problems with her ex and money problems and whatever.
But like when she was actively thinking about the money and then trying to go to Kwan Yul's character and gets attacked with that. And I'm just like you creedy son of a bee. Like I remember being so angry in those types of scenes because it was consistent throughout the show. She was constantly thinking about money and constantly bringing it up and constantly trying to find a way to make to blackmail these people and to get more money out of them. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah, the only reason why she joins hands with Chi Song is that there's a potential that she could get the insurance money right if they prove the murder versus the suicide. Yeah, she gets a payout. And I was like, Oh my God, I loved it. I loved it. Like this is, it's such an interesting complex character, let alone all the other
characters too. But her as a mother, they keep harkening back to this, that she is separated from her daughter who's living in Canada with her like shitty ex. And she keeps having to send her whole paycheck and all of this alimony and like money and child support to Canada for her daughter. And she misses her and wants her back in Korea to live with her. And everything that she's doing is so that she can bring her back to Korea. I totally understand that, totally understand that.
But she is also just kind of despicable. Yeah, yeah. And I love that. Yeah, it's a very, very fun character to watch. Like, because on one hand she is like, yeah, on one hand, you do root for her. You know that she's like, she may be despicable, but the people they're fighting against is are. Even more. Despicable. So like, you're like, OK, pick the the lesser of two evils here. Exactly. You know, yeah, like, she may be greedy. She may be all for the money.
She would never go and murder some people. The other people are greedy, corrupt and would murder people on a dime. Right, Right. Yeah. I, I loved that. That was the initial subversion was that most audience members would see her as a hospital playlist girl. They barely see her in a drama. They've seen her in 39, they've seen her in hospital playlist. That's pretty much it. I think One other mother, I think she was in as like a. Maybe a sporting role? But she is fairly clean.
She does not have history, right? She doesn't have baggage like G Song may have baggage like people have seen him on television. They see him in the variety shows. They know who his wife is. They don't know about her as much. They know has a hospital playlist. But they've seen her singing. They see her in a group, you know, right? And I love that they played off of that because she's so great and she's so greedy in the show, right? You're just taken aback immediately.
You're like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. Yeah, and it's interesting to see her just to this. What is the word just next to, I'll say that next to G, son, because G overall being a cop is the more goody 2 shoes of the show. Super righteous. Yeah. Yeah. But then you have the third of their trio who's like, really, really, really righteous. Oh my God.
He's like a regular dude. Yeah, he's a regular guy who like, just thinks everybody is good and like, would never do anything and is constantly shocked that people would lie to him. Right. He's like, you guys did this without me, like he's just a puppy dog. I thought he was a dog. Here's my thing. I thought he was going to be evil in some way, shape or form. Same. Same. OK, yeah. But then he became too much of the Comic Relief. Or like, they're not going to make this guy evil.
Like it it fell back on the cliche puppy cop being the evil person, one of the evil people. Yes, yes, because either when you have a puppy cop, either they're dead by episode 12 or they turn out to be a betrayer and end up taking a bribe or doing something. That's one of the two cliches of
a crime drama. OK, so the the moment when they find the dead and putured body of the third beneficiary in the insurance policy, it was like a pharmaceuticals researcher who presumably concocted the new drug. Yeah, the lemon Mulberry drug. Yes, the lemon Mulberry. Well, he, he concocted the original iteration like, yeah, the the first version of it, yeah. Yeah, I love this part, too, because they found his body and they're like, it was frozen, but then they thawed it out and they
put it in back in his house. And they left all of this, like, paraphernalia around to make it seem like he was related to the audiophile group. Like, we were going to find this body. And then these Molotov cocktails start flying in the house. And I'm like, what is going on? Destroying all this evidence, trying to kill them.
Obviously, that was another big, you know, surprise because now there's some sort of dissension in the ranks of the evil people who are out here killing drug engineers and putting them back in their houses. Someone put the body there for them to find and someone is trying to kill them. Right. So I just. The wheels are started falling off. Yes, yes, yeah. I love when you figure out that someone deleted the footage of him taking Lemon Mulberry in the
police precinct. Oh my God, that gave me OK, so the the the parts that gave me anxiety for a lot is when he was high. Well, not high. He was going through a withdrawal looking for a drug in the police station. Yes, like that was the most anxiety inducing parts because it happened multiple times. It wasn't just like once. It was like multiple times because obviously he's a cop. So he's not only avoiding his
own unit. There's also there's other really annoying unit in the police station that is suspicious of him because they work for the corrupt dude. Prosecutor. That unit can suck ass. They. Were. Horrible. They had no integrity whatsoever and they were active. It looked like they were actively sabotaging their investigations in the drug. And even if they were asking seemingly innocent questions about their investigation, they were like, no, we're not going
to share information. This isn't your. It was like all of this. Yeah. Territorial. They're so territorial now. I will say in real life that does happen in police stations. People can be very protective of their own cases because if they solve it, it will be like they'll get the credit, right? You're right. So, like, it made sense on some in terms of the territorialness of it. But what I was mad about is like, they just kept going at G Song the entire time, like being suspicious of him.
Granted, yeah, he was going through withdrawal symptoms. Of course they were suspicious of him. But like the whole getting his hair at the end, I remember being so angry because I was like, that is totally illegal. What you just did. Yes, yes, good for them like calling them out, but I was just like, really dude, it's like you're already. Corrupt. I liked that. They're, I like that the unit chief for the narcotics unit was this older female.
I was like, Oh yeah, I get it. Bitch loved her. Loved her? Sure. Always on his side, even if she didn't like understand, like she wasn't really involved in a lot of like decent stuff. But you know, the fact that she had such a position of authority and was on his side, especially in the latter episodes when it comes out that he's an addict and all this stuff, I was like,
yes, like, she's amazing. Him going through the police station, trying to get to the one place where these drugs were stored because they found some, and then taking them. I was just like, Oh my God, you're going to get caught. Somebody's going to walk in. And then when they when the footage was erased, I was like, who the hell erased the footage for you? That was a that was a thing. That was what he's going on. It's because like the the episode like ends and you're like.
Who the hell? Deleted the footage, who saw it, who helped him, who gave him the drugs? All these questions. Every and then you're like suspicious of everybody. Like it was. Just so well written because you did not know who the trust other than G Sung and then like you. I mean because like for instance, because Jung Migo was so corrupt in her own space, you couldn't honestly trust her for a lot of it too.
And then like it, I mean, it was revealed that Jung SU Wan, like the the third of the trio, the the insurance person, he was talking to Jung me Dong, but never telling things to Gsong. And Gsong was talking to Jummy Doe and never telling things to him. Like, yeah, even though they were working together, no one was communicating because no one trusted anybody. Right. It was so great. But then you compare that to the villain group and they were doing the same bullshit they
were. Same thing. Doing things. Two of them would do something and not tell the others, and then one of them would do something not to the others, and three of them would do something and not tell the others. It would breed all of this animosity between them, distrust in the group and the other group imploded before our, you know, quote, UN quote, good trio. Yeah, definitely. But. Yeah, but miscommunication was way worse on the villain side than it was on the side of truth.
Justice in the American way. But the I loved when the that moment when he goes to see the CCTV footage and it's already been scrubbed. Such a great moment. I also loved when you found out that June So's widow and the prosecutor were in on it together and they were having an affair. Oh my God. Yeah. The affair reveal was so great because the prosecutor bust into her home. She opens the door like, hello, welcome to my home, like,
nothing. And he comes busting and immediately starts strangling her. And you're like, Oh my God, what's going on? Why is he strangling her? When he stops strangling her, that's when it's revealed that they were having an affair. And they they, you know, they have all this history together and you're like, Oh my God, this bitch, this bitch, because you thought that she was this loyal wife, right?
She didn't want her husband to have a big why on his chest from the autopsy that they were gunning for and stuff because she didn't want her husband to meet up with her daughter in the afterlife and like him have this. Scar. Scar, all this thing and I was like, this page was cheating on him the whole time. Oh my God right? I also love the scene where G Song was in her apartment and like basically questioning her but not officially questioning her.
Yes, he was going through all of their home videos and footage trying to get some sort of. Evidence. And then he was leaving. He was leaving and the door and the door starts beeping. And I, I remember watching this like, OK, who the hell is on the other side of that door? It's prosecutors. And then all of a sudden it opens up the prosecutor and everybody just like phrases. And that's the end. That's the end of the episode.
Yeah, like a lot of the cliffhangers were relationship, yeah, had to do like relational issues, right. And that that's another one. Is that the cliffhanger? Was he potentially could find out that they were having an affair because the prosecutor just knew the House code? Knew the house. Code and was walking into the widow's apartment and like what the fuck so yeah yeah I'm like breathing hard and everything over here the. The taxi driver? Yeah, the taxi driver. He was I. Thought shit.
Crazy. Bat shit crip. Bat shit crazy. I thought he played bat shit crazy in Psychopath. So great. Like he was doing something with his jaw, like he would kind of like hang his jaw a certain way. And I don't even know how to describe it, but I was like, that's genius. He looks crazy. And then he had crazy eyes too. Yeah, of it. Yeah, He had really nice crazy. Eyes, but he could turn. Crazy eyes. Really good. Yeah, Definitely, definitely.
Because there were some scenes where I was like, OK, he looks kind of sane here. Right. The other two were angry, but other than yeah, yeah, so. Great. Like when he was washing his hands of the blood in some public bathroom or whatever and the kid sees the blood, some child in the bathroom sees the blood and he makes eye contact with the kid. I was like, oh, there goes the kid. The kids going to tell. There goes the elementary school kid, because he looked at he looked crazy.
He did. He did. Oh, so great. They revealed that the puppy dog police cop was in on it as well. Not in on it. When I say in on it, it's like in on something else. Like he knew CEO Yun, who was one of the distributors of Lemon Mulberry and was like a drug cartel leader in town. This was the stupidest part of the show though, because this guy really thought, he really thought that if he made a deal with this CEO Yun, a drug cartel leader, to keep the streets
clean. OK, you take out some rival drug cartel, A rival drug family, and I, CEO Yun says. I will keep the streets clean. Right. Yeah, like you're. Why do you? Believe anything that's coming out of her mouth. The. Cop that E Chung SU, Detective E Chung SU. Stupid. He's stupid and then he would come to her and like be mad at her. Right. I was like, do you know who you're dealing with? Dude, you're going to end up in the Han River. Keep going right? It's great.
It was just so like, why would he believe anything that she says? Right, exactly it. Just like. He was that cop was just in over his head. Well, it was the. Same thing with like so like. Another anxiety inducing part was when he was deleting the CCTV in her backroom. Of him, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I was. Just like you're doing this in front of everybody in the front room. Yeah. Yeah. Like, obviously he had to do it right then and there, but it was just like, oh, my God.
But that was it was the same thing with when he drove the van into the lake. I was just like. The band in the lake was like such a oh, you talk about it, you talk about. It, it was just like, I mean, it was true for what they they said this beautifully in the show. It was just the things did not match up. The guy, the handcuffs being on handcuffed because when you have a suspect in the back, you usually handcuff them to
something. So the fact that those were undone, the fact that the window was open when it drove in, how he easily was on shore already like, and things just did not match up. And I'm just like, you got you. Clearly this was impulsive. It was an impulsive decision. He didn't plan to do it because obviously the guy that they had just arrested threatened him to reveal everything. So he impulsively had to choose to kill the guy. But it was just you didn't think this through.
You did not think any of this through, which matches the impulsiveness of the decision. But yeah, it's just you. Eventually we're going to get found. It was a matter of time. It was just Elaine the inevitable. And he really did not like he said. He just didn't think it through. He like lowered the window and like jerked the yeah. Honestly I thought the delivery bike kid was going to get in more trouble. I thought he was Juico.
I thought he was Juico's fair kid for like the longest time. Like I bet it was obviously revealed it wasn't. But I was like, dude, this dude had an affair and his wife had an affair. Like everybody was cheating but that kid. Was old like he was like a. But they've been married teen like high school, they've been married for a really long time. Like they got together like right after. No, yeah. I. Think so and the why I. Think the yeah I think they were married for a while.
No. I could be wrong, I don't know. Maybe they never said how long they were married. I don't know. But I thought that he was like a love child somewhere. I don't know. I I that never crossed my mind but wow. No they couldn't have done that because Chunzo had to stay this like perfect Angel of a of a dead person otherwise nobody would have done anything to prove who murdered him. He would have been also like an ambiguous villain in this whole
thing, which we don't. I guess he gets a free pass for everything that he does. Hey, there's. Nobody that well, there's nobody that prosecute. Of course he does well like. Yeah, but I thought that delivery by kid was going to get in more trouble because he's the one that swapped the drugs. Right. Yeah. He does get run over in the rain. You thought he was going to get murdered at some point? But I thought he was going to
get prosecuted. I thought he was going to get murked something because he swapped the drugs on the drug run that June so was supposed to do and he ended up killing the old lady with a brain tumor. Right. Right, because she got the wrong drugs. Yeah. Poor lady, you know. What I'm saying, I know it's crazy how this title connection has more than one meeting in this show. Yes. Because it's like the little intricate connections of the threads that revealed throughout
this show, for one. Then it was like the relationships between everybody. Because one of the more surprising parts for me was when, when you first enter this show, you're like, OK, June So's an old high school friend who ends up dead. Like, that's it. I was like, OK, he's going to be he's going to be finding out who murdered this dude. And then he's always going to figure out who drugged him. Like, that was the story.
And then as you go along, you realize that this had been stemming from high school, like these connections and these feelings and these relationships.
And then you find out like, how deep this dude was, Jinso, the dead guy, how deep he was in Yeah, how deep he was in this and how everything was connected not only with the high school relationships, but also the evil squad over here who all knew each other in high school, were friends, were not technically friends with G Sung in high school, but like, knew each other in high school. And like how everything stemmed back to the high school, the incident that happened in the
high school. And then just like it, all the threads just connected. I think I had questions about what happened in the flashbacks and what happened in high school because who the hell was the kid that they killed? I thought you would. So it basically it was just a kid they bullied as far as I remember. But they made it seem like that kid bullied 4 eyes. Maybe. Maybe I'm just not remembering that part. Because there was a scene where they were all together. All the bullies were together.
I don't even know what's called him the Doom Squad. All the Doom Squad were together in a classroom. And they were like, hey, you got bullied again. And Four Eyes, the one who created Mulgarry in the future, He's sitting there with like a busted lip. Right. Yes, yes. So I'm like OK, did he get bullied by another kid? No, yeah, I think I, I think you're right. I think they bullied. I think it was bullied by that guy, or at least hit by that guy, right?
Something about like, oh, you got your lunch money taken again. I don't even know if it was lunch money, but it was something. And then they went to go. Bullying to rough the guy up? Yeah, they went to rough the guy up. Yeah. And things went awry. Things did not go how they planned. So awry which number one? Number one, when they showed the debt, the guy that the kid that ends up dying and his friend in this, this traditional house has no running water, no electricity. Right.
Even though it's wired for electricity because there is an on and off switch in the bathroom or a light. So that was strange. They spilled an obnoxious amount of gas on the ground. They did. They did. And they didn't seem fazed by it. I would have been freaking out. Yeah, because that's not. That's not a few drops of gas. No, it's not. No, it was a puddle. It was, it was a big, it was a whole. Last puddle of gas and then they just they just sit in it with a
lighter and light up the grill. I was like no no no. Is this just because I'm older now or is this the stupidity of youth? Or are they just more stupid than usual? I I couldn't wrap my hand around why they would still can even if they spilled that much gas. You have move move away from the gas to light up the grill just. Yeah, the reveal of the fact that Jung SU Kim Kyung Nam's character. Yeah. Came back, Oh yes and killed the guy.
He came back for his name tag that fell off at some point and then he beat him to death. Yeah, was like, Oh my God, 'cause like, obviously he already killed the guy. Like, I see, I I was like, I was surprised because technically he already had killed the guy because he was going to die anyway from the injuries that he already had. Yeah, but. They cracked his skull open.
Yeah, to add on that layer of viciousness and the layer of no one can touch me, no empathy, the inhumanity, like I'm the rich kid no one can touch even though I'm crazy high on drugs. I need a best friend hired by my father to like, keep me under wraps and keep me into control. Comes back and just with nobody else. So he just goes crazy and actually kills this guy. I was so surprised by that because I thought like, OK, this dude's already dead, like he
killed them. But to add on that layer of viciousness and that layer to that character was the surprising part for me, not the fact that he came back. But no, no, it was the fact that he took a freaking. He doubled down. He doubled. Basically I was not expecting the double down. Oh, I see, I see, I see. OK, I guess I had a worse opinion of the character than you did, mostly because I don't know. I don't know. I just thought he was shit. He was shit.
Of course he'd like finish it. And it wasn't because he it wasn't out of necessarily malice. No it wasn't. No it. Was out of fear, right? It was out of fear. And he had proven himself, even up to this point in the show, that he was a coward. Yeah, definitely, definitely. So it totally made sense to me that when he kind of came back to life and was begging for his life and was touching him and stuff, it scared him enough that he started to just beat him to
death. So. Yeah, because he was afraid of his father. He's. He's afraid of consequences. Yeah. Yeah, not necessarily, you know, justice system consequences, his. Father, he was afraid of his father. Consequences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it totally made sense to me. I was as surprised in the slightest. I I don't think I even blinked harder during that far. I was like, Yep, here we go, the table doing more damage. Right, right.
I thought the kid that was hiding in the bathroom though was June. So for like an episode? Yeah, that happened to me too. I thought it was June so far. Yeah, that was. Like, not clear who that kid was. Yeah, but speaking a word on the kids though, in the flashbacks they were excellent at portraying their characters and matching the adults performances. Yes, and I think they I. Don't know if you like. Had thoughts on that or? Picked up on that, but. Oh yeah, I thought they did very
well. I also thought the likeness of them, too, They found kids that, like, obviously didn't 100% match, but like, matched enough, Yeah, that you knew exactly who each one of them were. Yeah. I thought that was impressive. So going back to I think it's episode 7. Yeah, Episode 7 our home girl get our home girl journalist hospital playlist girl, she gets abducted, like straight up abducted by the linebacker. Like I have no other way to describe. It's just like the. Muscle, the bodyguard.
The bodyguard in the in the Dune squad. And they try. He tries to pay her off. He tries to blackmail her with all of this evidence that she's been bribed as a journalist for so long, and she ends up returning the payoff money. Yep. And she says I'm known in this field for easily accepting what's offered to me. Everyone will be tired of it. Hey, it would be worth a news article if a giraffe ate some meat. Who cares if a wolf has some meat? And I was like yes girl.
Like she has some balls on her. Oh yeah. She has some balls on her. This was a very slow, slow journey back to being ethical and moral and somewhat journalistic integrity or just integrity period for this character and her valuing friendships and the chase, like the satisfaction of the chase of a story more than getting paid off. And the money aspect and her feeling the weight of what Chun so was unable to say to her when she last saw him before he died. So I really liked that about the
show. And that was very slow because she, again, very morally Gray throughout the show.
But, you know, talking about on the opposite side, the cop, our cop character from G Song, his journey is also interesting because besides the fact that he's dealing with all the addiction at the beginning of the show, he's like this independent cop who didn't believe in friendship anymore and was not relying on others and didn't trust people and was doing all of this on his own, you know, living on his own and, you know, trying to make it and rise up through the ranks all on
his own. And by the end of the show, you realize that he he needed all of these people. He needed a tribe, right? It's about him learning to trust people again and, you know, have friends again, make friends. So I liked that journey as well. I thought the password for the crypto account was going to be her birthday. I thought it was going to be Yuno's birthday. Yeah, I love that piece of writing. Cuz you, you really do. Think it's going to be DID?
You really do think it was going to be the birthday? That it was going to be the birthday, and it was not. It was not her birthday. I love that twist. I loved it. And then after that, I thought it was going to be the SOS code 1882. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't think they landed that necessarily, that the last four digits were the friendship day. Yeah, that was one of the small qualms I had. I was like, they could have picked a definitely a better story with that part, yeah.
I think it should have been the SSI. Think so too. I like that idea more. I think it was a good choice to not have it be her birthday. Oh yeah. Because it just, it just sounds, it shows more of like the paranoia part of it all. And then it brought his widow into the paranoia now. But yeah, I that was one of the small issues I had at the end was like, I I think they could have wrote that part of the story better or picked a different significant date than that. This insurance guy had
superhuman strength though. I love I cheered when that happened. When? He picked up like Superman picked up the prosecutor who was choking out, you know, and threw him across the room. Yeah. I. I have a speechless. I was like, where is where is this coming from? Does he compete like this is? Incredible. Is he high on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I had so many more questions than answers. I was like, I don't know where. He just has this unbelievable Herculean strength.
Right. Right. It's never addressed. Then we go back. And then I thought, oh, maybe I saw it wrong. No, then they go back and they had the prosecutor look at the CCTV footage, right? And you see it again. You see the scene again. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's that was nuts. That was actually nuts. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. The one thing we're dancing around is who is the doctor? Yeah. Who was the doctor?
Who was the doctor? And I said before our spoiler break that I yelled out I knew it, and my sister overheard me. This is what I knew from the funeral of Chun. So was that Four Eyes who have been calling? Four Eyes was the doctor. Yeah. I was like, that guy's shady as shit. I clocked him early too. What I didn't clock was how crazy he was. No, no, no, that was crazy. Like, like I did. I was like, oh, no, he definitely is like some bad person.
I might not have like, clocked he wasn't a doctor until somebody started mentioning the doctor. But I was like, Oh no, he's in on it somehow. Like he's too innocent over here and he's too much, like, on screen for not to be important. Yeah, but I didn't clock how crazy he was going to be. It was. Did it work for you how crazy he was? Yeah, I think it worked because it was just the the audacity of it all was just like it was fun. I wouldn't say it was 100%
worked for me, but it was fun. And the same with Kwan Yules character, the descent that he had by the end, it didn't 100% make sense but it was fun, at least for him. At least for Kuan Yew's character, it made a little more sense in his reasoning because he was just so arrogant by the end. Oh yeah, the. Doctor, his reasoning, especially for drugging Jason just was not. It was not 100. Like it wasn't there like I think it helped to prove it was.
It was shaky, but it also helped to prove how insane he was. Yeah, he was. He didn't need a. He didn't need a sane reason because that wasn't his character. Yeah, like we need it. You'd think that the rest of the Doom Squad are crazy psycho. You know, they're willing to kill people. They're willing to, you know, freeze people right in there. What is it called? Cold storage cold. Storage, thank you in the cold storage and just do despicable
things. Half of them creating this lemon Mulberry demand in the drug market and creating this business basically and the other half not realizing that that's what they were doing. Let alone like distributing outside of their organization too. It wasn't just them within their organization. They were taking bribes and distributing outside of it because they were all arrogant. So they they're doing all of this and then you have and you're like, that's crazy.
That's they're wild. Then you have sang Sanghi, I think is his name sang Sanghi 4 eyes and I had clocked that's the doctor. But you're like, why? Why do this? The next question is why get our male lead who never heard a family addicted to drugs addicted to London Mulberry. You see in this crazy flashback that, you know, this incident happened. They killed this other kid in this fiery inferno. It burned down his whole house, and they're covering it up.
And they just got our male lead expelled and, like, transferred to another school. So you think that's going to be the end of it? Then you see Sangy for our Four Eyes character go, is that enough? Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck? Wait, wait. There he goes. That's not enough. We need to break up June so and you know the the Mr. Body who eventually becomes Mr. Body and our journalist hospital playlist girl because they were dating in
high school. Break them up and this group should have never created this club and music club audiophile and all the stuff so we could fuck up the club. This guy had June so literally vandalize his own beloved school club with a baseball bat and then violently cut ties with, you know, and he relished. It Yeah. And that's when you're like, OK, I think he beat all of them. He's psycho, yeah. This dude is insane. Yeah, yeah. And then you hear him spouting
to Ji Sung and Jummy Doe the reasoning the episode. 12 exposition dump. I don't like exposition dumps, but this is when he starts saying I just didn't like you. Yeah, also I didn't like you, but I also was was friends with June, so for 20 years. So I was like his biggest support and how dare he like includes you in the will. How dare that. How dare that you only talk to him a handful of times and he thinks you're. It was a jealousy thing in a way. Right, but it was a jealousy thing.
But I don't know. Did Sangi for Eyes know about the will before June so died? No, I don't think so because it happened after. OK, no. I don't. No, I do not think he did. That's what I thought too, because by the time the funeral happens, the male lead is already addicted to lemon Mulberry. Yeah, so he didn't drug him because of the will. He drugged him, as you said, because he just didn't like him. He just didn't like him. But then he, he, I think he drug.
Jealous of their. Collection, yeah. Or just the connection that Jung so thought they had. I think, I think it was a combination of a lot of things. He didn't like him in general. He didn't like that even though he was 20 years friendship with Jung so and like there for him, Jung so could not let go of the guilt of what happened to Ji Sung's character and was trying to make amends for those 20 years and G Sung and he was mad at G Sung because G Sung didn't
let him have that resolution. Yes, Never gave him forgiveness. So I think he drugged him first, just didn't like him because he wanted to kind of get rid of him so Jung so would be able to move on. But then when the will was read and then he found that out, then he doubled down and was like, oh, I really don't like you and I'm so jealous of you and I'm just going to make your life miserable and haunt you with
this stuff. But he also wanted to use him as revenge because he'd been like, bullied by the Doom Squad and John. So for that matter, yeah, he was like using him at the same time to get revenge on the people. That was a it was all about June so for him, right? In a way, both in revenge, but also in jealousy and like wanting to get rid of them so he could have June so to himself. Yeah, he, yeah. Which was nuts it.
Was about half crazy. I told me you guys can't see this but I'm just shaking my head with crazy eyes. He also, it made it sound like he and you mentioned this, that he set him loose right near the drug hand off in the subway station so that he could bust those guys that were part of the Lemon Millbury distribution system. And it would lead back to him, lead back to Four Eyes, and eventually lead back to the prosecutor and get at all of the
Doom Squad, right? Found out and arrested for this lemon Mulberry. Trafficking thing, yeah. But then it didn't happen that way. He kept saying like, you're a bad cop, basically, you keep, you keep letting these guys go right? I keep handing things to you and like you, you can't get your shit together right. And honestly, it's stupid only because he got him addicted to lemon Mulberry, and lemon Mulberry is impairing him the entirety of the show, right?
Yeah. So it's just, it's so he's getting upset that he can't do his job at the efficiency that he wants him to. But it's entirely his. Fault, but it's entirely his. Fault. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, stupid. It's just psycho. It was psycho, baby. It was psycho. It was psycho, yeah. Yeah, anyway, I had questions about the last episode where our prosecutor, because I genuinely thought he was admitting to killing June. So yeah. Mm hmm, that was the part I did
not like. OK, talk to me about it. So I wanted it to hit be him. I wanted it to be him and done me too. And then to have the CEO father come in at the very last second and be like, Oh no, it was actually my plan. I was like, why like it was? That was not needed at all. Kwan Yul did a amazing performance, went off the deep end, was so arrogant, was so good in that scene. And then four Eyes just shut him
up, him up out of nowhere. I'm just like, Oh my God, I was not like I was because I knew he had the gun, but I wasn't at the same time. I yes, yeah. Just because, like, if he didn't do it, somebody in that room was going to either punch him or kill him because they were like boiling over at that point because he was just talking way too long. He was doing them the the cliche manifesto. Oh, yeah. Of a correct thing. Yeah. Because he was just so arrogant because he thought he had beat
everybody. Yeah, So I would would have been very, very pleased with that ending. I would have been 100% OK with that ending. And then you had to bring in like, yes, the shoe thing was still bugging people. I understand that. But it was just like, OK, it was explained in that scene. It didn't really need to be investigated more. And then they just went down the rabbit hole of the cliche corruption CEO hired somebody to do the job again, which I just did not. I did not like That was the one
thing I did not like at the end. I wish they had left that out because it wasn't needed. It was not needed. It didn't add anything. And because it also didn't really make sense for the father like it did and it didn't because like the on one hand, it did because he was very, very he was set on image. He needed a certain image. His company was failing. He he needed that. That wasn't. Just come to work out, it was the entire conglomerate, the group.
Yeah, and he needed that project to work out. It obviously wasn't going to work out. So he obviously did the cliche thing and hired the person who was going to reveal everything. The show did a great in part of that reasoning, but then they also threw in like, I needed to protect my son, which was not believable at all, because he hated his guts. He hated his entire life. His entire life he hated his guts. Yeah. He was embarrassed of him. Yeah, yeah. And he clearly wanted the
prosecutor. To some extent, he wished he was his son. Yeah. I loved every. Time. It never was going to happen. Oh. Not the CEO every time that old man chairman humbled the prosecutor. Yeah, yeah. That was always an interesting. That was a fun thing to watch. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the. That was literally the only part I did not like in this room because it just did not. It wasn't needed. It was.
It was not necessary. I thought I was genuinely surprised when they do it like a two months later time jump after he gets the prosecutor gets shot in the head by four eyes and they still don't have the insurance payout and they're like, we still need to figure out who it is. I was like, what do you what right. I was like, it was not the prosecutor because he had, he was the shadiest 1. He was the one blocking every attempt at solving the murder. He didn't want the autopsy.
He stopped the elevator before they got to the 9th floor. All these things really did add up that he was the murderer, or at least, you know, hired somebody to push him off the 9th floor. Right. Yeah. I don't I completely agree with you that it the chairman being the big bad of a murderer didn't sit right right and him having this thin reason of. The shoes, right, which you said even pointed out was like, yeah, but 50% of people don't actually take off their shoes.
They even wrote that into the script was which was, which was hilarious to me. But yeah. They caught him in like a weird technicality and I didn't. I didn't appreciate that. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. And then I like the paycheck ending, though where I don't know if you've seen the movie Paycheck with Ben Affleck. A long time ago, I barely remember it. And you know what?
I I also have only watched this movie once like 20 years ago when it came out but the ending has always stuck to me where they have the winning. Oh, spoilers for this movie. By the way. I guess where they find the winning lottery ticket, they still have it. Yes, yes. And so this is their winning lottery ticket moment, right? They have the final four digits of this cryptocurrency account that has all of the profits, all of the proceeds of the Lemon Mulberry business, right?
And they're able to get into it and you see their reaction. They're super excited because not only did they get the payout and they're splitting it and they're giving some to the cheating wife and they're putting some away for this and that and the other had to pay taxes and all this stuff, but they also got into The Dirty money account. The Dirty money, yeah. And I really like that. I like that too, yeah. Because you don't know what they actually do with it. That.
I like that part. You just that's that's the end. As you know, they got in. Yeah, Yeah. The first part, I, I had to rewatch that scene the first time because when they were zooming out and it was just the dialogue, yeah. I, I thought they had entered it wrong. Or I also had thought that the laptop had died and I was like, wait, what? So I had to like, rewatch it. I was like, oh, OK, that's not actually what happened. Yeah. No, it's good. It's good.
I think that's everything that I had in my notes. Is there anything else that you wanna talk about for connection? Because I think we made it all the way through the show and we talked about the ending. It was a happy ending. He gets clean. G Song's character gets clean. No more Lemon Mulberry, which I really like that name by the way, for the drug. So you have here, like, thoughts on the music and OST? I like the music. I thought the music was was good.
Yeah. I thought it fit the show very well. I mean, it actually, it obviously added to like, the anxiety of watching him go through withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal symptoms. I mean, I, I mean, I don't know, I just think of the cliched withdrawal symptoms. So I don't know any. Oh. My God, you brought up with the. Withdrawal symptoms or everything but like I thought they were extreme. So two things they were. Oh my God, you reminded me of two things.
One was the freaking copico product placement throughout the show. I remember, I remember cuz it was very heavy at the end of the show. It was heavy throughout the show. What are you talking about? Like it was noticeably heavy for me at the end cuz. I don't understand. Three times in the last two episodes. I thought this was the biggest irony of the show is because this is about a narcotics unit. This is a cop getting addicted
to drugs. They're trying to figure out, you know, this whole system, the lemon, Mulberry, all the shit and they're they're still peddling caffeine tablets, caffeine gum. This is legalized stimulants is what you're doing. I'm like, this is a drug. People have withdrawal symptoms. They don't have coffee like caffeine. People have caffeine addictions. I'm like, you're feeding into this addiction and shit. I don't understand why they would take the Coffee Co, the
Coffee Co product placement. That was completely strange to me. I was like, I understand there's money in this, but this is diluting the message, don't you think? Like, I don't know and #2 every single person who saw G Song was like, are you OK? You look pale, you're sweating, your eyes are red, but everything. It didn't matter if they were a doctor, a nurse, a coworker, someone he saw on the street, a grandma who was fixing talkbookie for him.
Didn't fucking matter. Everybody was commenting on his appearance and everybody to me was a narc. I'm like, is the entire society looking out for drug addicts? Yeah, I mean, that was part of the anxiety of the show too, Yes. It's like it was noticeable on him. Right. But even when it wasn't, even when it wasn't and he just kind of looked a little pallid. Yeah. They were like, are you like? Jumping no, trying to like constantly feed him because it was a it was an appetite
suppressant. Yes, so. Yeah. I did like that detail is that you almost you'd never see him eat, right? Never see him eat. You only see him drinking water, stuffing pills down his gullet, and you never see him sleep. You never see him eat. Yeah. So yeah. Really really crazy show if you don't want high glasses. Yeah, if you yeah, make sure you're ready for anxiety inducing ride, Yes.
So obviously the the throw against the computers was very satisfying with the prosecutor, but what did you think of the slap in the next? Oh my God, I loved it. Oh, that was one note that I almost didn't say. Thank you for bringing it up. Because they go to the hospital after the cheating wife, the widow attempted murder because the taxi drivers on the loose, right? He's literally roaming town trying to get away from the cops and he tries to kill the widow because he thinks there's
evidence. Whatever. She's in the hospital, and G Song clocks Quaniel's character in the face, the prosecutor, and the prosecutor hits him back. But he's, you know, weak and stuff. He's trying to make it through another, like, withdrawal episode. And he just falls on the floor, collapses. Yeah, collapses. And I love when you and Jin, the journalist shows up because she just walks down the hallway and she's like, like, she winds back
and hits the prosecutor so hard. I was like, yes, girl, like what? Come and get him. Come and get this man. And she said, I just came down here to see who was fighting. Like she was just, Oh my God, I loved her character so much. Also, Oh, we didn't talk about this last thing, the chemistry between Tomido and G Song. These crime dramas, they just, they just. Really get you delusional about these ships. Yeah. Yep, Yep. They get you all riled up and then nothing happens.
Yep. Because tell me why those two should have been married with three kinds by the end of the show. Right, right. Anyway, that's all I have to say about connection. Anything else? Yep, that's it. That's. All right, nice. Thank you so much for coming on, Caitlin. I haven't absolutely every time you're on. Yes. Thank you for watching Connection again, going on this wild ride with me. Before we get out of here, where can people find you online in case they don't know? I'm I'm everywhere.
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