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DARIUS SLAY

Jun 07, 202254 minSeason 2Ep. 39
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We’re cuttin to it with “Big Play Slay,” the dynamic cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles. This episode, Slay gets into his confidence on the field, then takes Steve down memory lane when he talks about respect between the lines. 

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This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm Steve Smith Senior and John and this is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then we're

about to let you. Now it's all man. I got a little favorite on the emphasize on little little favorite because he played dB a little bit of shade on the front, a little qualified and Captain Petty is in the building, checked in, locked and loaded. Man. We got

a cornerback phenom shut down when you shut down? Slight right? Uh, Darius Slay, cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, making that boot coop, deciding also that he might he he may want to switch over receiver because they played pain a lot more hits, his weekend hits, his Twitter feet. Welcome to the cut to a podcast, Darius Slay, how you doing dogs? And I'm good man, everybody doing it that we're good man.

Appreciate you coming on, bro, sir, appreciate you. Well, let's jump right on them because I was going back in my in my memory bank, and I was trying to figure out when did I when did I have it? Uh interaction with slayh and I and I believe when I was with the Baltimore Ravens, I was. I was on that veteran schedule in the preseason um and Slay says through the media, I would like to have a Steve Smith Jersey Remember that? Yeah? Yes, Can I tell

you what I was really thinking? Please? Okay, First of all, you know, let's be honest in Detroit, and I felt privy to this. When you play in the a f C, you don't pay attention to the NFC. When I was in the NFC, I did not pay attention to the FC because I only played the ANFC teams every four years. So in the beginning, I was like, Man, I don't know who the hell Darius slays, right, but I didn't say it. And one nickel for the insult. Okay, two

nickels for the insult. You know, I'm retired, So my my, my, my funds that left. Ye. Well, I am on the fix in come, always been on the fix income. I will never reveal how much you like, but or however still going forward, I'm like, man, this dude, if I was playing, he's trying to soften me up. He's trying to make me not go at his neck before we play. That's what I was thinking. I didn't say that. I didn't say that in the media. Man that came to me like, uh, my coach came to me right that

there had hardware. He said, that's the wrong jersey that asked for. He said, he trying to dog you ever played? I said, I understand that, you know I watched this game, but damn, I still can't get their jersey that they was like, now hear what my jersey's des whately said. The reason I don't hear what my jers I might roughly up in you want my jer guy said, Damn, I said, let me lock it dad. If he played, I I ain't even gonna play the games with it. Was.

It's one of those funny things that, um, you know we're starting on the back end, first pause, but you know we're just gonna get them to talk ball. Was just understanding like this the dB I was talking to somebody, and I and and is clogging my memory jogging it up? Is you know. I guess that's that's one of the

regrets I did have with playing. I wasn't a nice opponent like I really grew playing the game in such a fierce competitive way that opponent or teammate, if you were on the other side of the football, I did not see you as friend. I saw you completely only as folk. I had my lenses of foe on. No friendship, no hank, no shaking hands like if I suld do hand, I would intentionally give him the dead fish like before

the game, right like I was. I was playing Carolina two thousand eight, we play Seattle Seahawks had a former teammate went to college with uh um Andre Diyson, right, His brother was Kevin. Kevin Diyson, Tennessee Tens play with me as well. A lot of Dison family, great dudes. We went to college together. You know, we all grew

up together. Where a whole bunch of girls trying to get some nuts and we got them right and super pauls Um Extreme extreme part one more tea Steve, you're out of the game, and so yeah and so so Drake shakes my hand before the NC Championship game again Seattle game to dead fish right, And I just was so in work mode. I was in worker B mode. I never really I always respected the defender. And my respect for the defender was in the off season, like

going to get the player like yourself. I had to train my butt off in off season because I knew you were gonna shadow well, So that means I had to move. I had to put bricks on the house, right, and that means in football terms, going forward, right, I couldn't. I couldn't dance at the line because if I dancing line, you're a great shadow guy. That that that plays right into your bag of tricks, Mr Magician, right, So doing all of those things, that's the one you know for circle,

That's one of regret is I never was able. I was always on versus the defender. I was never relaxed. And so when you asked me for my jersey, you know, I missed it. But I was just in a different mindset just because even as I was older, you know, y'all were younger, right, you know, and when you know you when you thirty eight years old and you gotta play seventy plays, and back in the day, I would have good twenty I give you twenty five good routes.

I can go full speed man when I was in my third man had about but I had but in between. But so what did I do with the other routes. I had to be strategic, had to be smart. I had to use my head in my mind versus my athleticism, because your athleticism it does start to leave you. Right. But if you don't know the game from the inside out, now you just you know, you just as a as as old coaches to tell me, You're just a blind

dog in the me house. You're smelling and sniffing everything, but you have no you have no idea where the hell you're going, right, So you know, so, um, that's funny, is I was just thinking about it, like what what what? What was my experience with big place sligh and and that was my experience. I didn't get an opportunity to gets to play against it because I was you know again, I was on that veteran uh, I was on that

veteran preseason. I was also coming off of that a massive double rupture Achilles as well, so I just wasn't there yet. So it was I thought it was good because if I believe, if I would have played. I don't think you would have been on this podcast. You he'd be like, man, bump that dude like that. Now, respect between the lines. I know how to go down. I appreciate it to talk about respecting between those lines.

What is your mindset? I mean, we know you. It's a big place, like you're all pro you you're a pro bowler. What's your mentality is you approach playing cornerback? Uh? Man, I just try to win every up. You know the DV Man, you gotta have a quick mind. You know, we gotta let plays go. You know. Uh, these professionals in this game, and most likely I was traveling all the time, so I'm always saying the best, So you know it's in this game some people could really like

lose confidence, but I always kept my confidence high. Man. I've been around a great leaderships in my room. So I just go out there and just trying to win the most I can. With the war of reps. I could win and most likely I come out on top a lot of time, you know, not even for single time. How easy or or I don't say easy. How much confidence for you is built up in practice heading into the game a lot, man, Because uh, I got some

good I had goods. I had great scout guys. You know, they don't know people don't know how pointing to scout guys is definitely for the dB uh dudes. I had. I sprained to a guy how how I received the work, and they do a very detail and walking walking through out of your mind? What do you mean I'm interested in here? Like for instance, I had like me, I was just going against Tail was my robbery guy, you know, in in the division up north. So I was in Detroit and Ty was in the Green Bay. So I

have a guy to work my patience. You know, that's a guy that Dante was a guy that's patient level. You know. Shoot, he would dance a lot at the line releases and made sure you put everything into the release that you got. And you know, for me, work my patience, made sure I'm we're here ready for it, and work my mind. And that's what he's doing. Man. So I had I had a great relationship with mostly my scout guys because that's why I said, to be the best, you gotta know you know your opponent. I

made sure my scout guy knew my opponent. So what's the what's the rooting your confidence. I mean you keep you mentioned confidence a few times. What's the root of it? Man, I just got a lot of I don't know. I can't hear this planting. Man, I was really just going from man, you know you just got it was just built dingy. You know, uh, you gotta have you gotta come somewhere because I didn't. I didn't have some confidence dudes that sorry as hell. Yeah, I've been around, dude,

but I didn't been around for dudes. I looked the park, can't and you look at you go back on film boys getting done dirty. So I need something a little bit more than man. I was just born with it, because there's a lot of bumps, a lot of bumps walking around with confidence from where from? So you're down south Georgia, boy, I don't know why people will have confidence that dance su Steth for winning. You know, it's a whole bunch of dbs. I'll give the example of it.

Let's let's walk down this road of a dB. Have you ever seen this? Out of a dB? The quarterback overthrows the ball. The d B that's say, happens to be five nine or three fourths right? Why are you looking at me. You know I'm looking at you because I'm talking about myself, right, you ain't you shorter than me? Talking around up? Try to try to steal my height up so the dB. So the quarterback happens to throw

high pass. The receiver that's five nine jumps up, he misses about his fingertips and then the flies baby dB done this, you can't catch it? And then came get the facin't go you do. Got some guys out there, but like you had nothing to do with that over to the home ball. Yeah, I'm gonna professor. So man, I know what the dude gout? You know when you really could have got that as as a wide receiver, as a wide receiver, that is like like my pop,

that's like somebody smacking coum on a public bus. Right, So when you look back and you see him doing the no flies zone, when you know, good and well it was just a non contestable ball, you what's your thoughts? I rolled? I'm talking about I'm talking my head like I got I rolled. Come on bro, no, no, not come on bro, Nina. Let my TV didn't doubt me out. Man.

If it's like that, I'm like he got you know, you know in your mind or you running or I run a great comeback and then the balls in the dirt and he over there, Oh boy, if you don't get your right and then that's where I go, all right, and then you know, obviously if the ball is thrown like that, we can't I'm hot. Don't even throw me another pass right now. Let me calm down, but we can get that run plate coming to my side though.

That's about that, coach, Toby saving and run play this last like you know you light, I'm ready, I say, God like this. Come on in preseason, you know, I'm like to see. Do you know why in pre season? Would you like to know why? I think about it? Think about it from a dB side? You you you guessed. You guess what's in age and eights? Mind right now, go ahead, cut to it. I mean, my guest wasn't like,

I know how you play. I've been watching for a long time from the South, so I've been watching Carolina for a minute. So I'm like, man, every time I see him, he trying to doll with somebody. I'm talking about every time you have you you basically you try to base you the last one have your hands on the dby you know something like why, I'm like, why are you always doing it? So I asked me, would you like to know? Yes, you know I always gonna ask. Okay,

well ask me, not ask me, because that's murder. I can call h hand of the DV last man if I well first, when I do it in the preseason, that let's everyone know. Either buckle up your chin strap and come with it, or we could take this playoff. Either one. I'm cool, but you stop. You let me know so we can tussle or we can watch. I don't mind getting up. I don't mind getting the minus. If it's a toss the other way. If it's a toss to the left and we're on the right, I'm

not gonna move. But if you ask move, that's gonna cost you. Because yes, you know, coaches, b you know you've been in the defense room. We gotta run back side. Okay, choose, choose your poison. Would you like to get a negative by the coach or when you get this talk you want to get this Caesar salad. Oh, I gotta take the season exactly. And so by doing that in the preseason, right, and then the other thing is it also to let guys know, like, look, you ain't the only one that

can hit. This is not this is not just your world. This is our world. My philosophy is really this. See there's a difference between you being on your birthday and it's being Christmas. See, on your birthday, you just get gifts, you get flowers, you get cards. Everybody wakes you up, they send you text messages. It's all about you. But in Christmas everybody gets to unwrap their gifts. M so

everybody wins. So we can have it Christmas or you can get your motherfucking gifts all seventy two players in the past and run game. You let me know. That's that's how that's why I feel you. I feel that's very understanding exactly. So you sound like a brother that like Christmas. Like Christmas. No, no, no, I'm on them open up. Okay, Well that's gonna get your tossed. I gotta get yourself. It's a little bit, you know, but

I like my birthday. Yeah, not on football field. What you want some socks here you go, new shoulder pads here you go. All right, what's like you said on the other day, on on social media. You said you are top five. I'm not gonna ask you the top five right now? Who the who are the five corners that you love that you grew up watching, grew up watch watch? Yeah that's good, okay, okay, I'm up watching

the Champ. You know, he's from folksting right now down from so I we're watching Champ and uh rod Woodson of course. Uh. I got an opportunity to learn the more you know about Rod Woodson the o g one. You know, so because I had lived with him for like two weeks for my pre draft, so I understand his game. And of course Dion, you know I stayed with him too for a minute in preseason. Uh A reevers, you know, so I love me some reevers. Damn headache? Yeah,

I love patient. Listen, dude, I've seen that the line of screaming in the long, long time, and you know the best technique. Oh yeah, yeah. Ain't nobody messing with him? Yeah? He's very patient, very patient, Yeah, very patient. Yeah. You know you talked about growing up in Georgia. What's your what's your family experienced? Like, what's some points of your mom in your life? And she's very important to meet us. So it's crazy, you know. But my mom like my

big sister because she had me at thirteen. I'm the only child, so you know, uh while she growing up, you know, she's still trying to raise me as a high school kid. Yeah, so you know we're busted. Like that's like my big sister. So she talked me how to changed the tire. She has a single mom. You know, my daddy was there, but a little with my mom for the most part. But yeah, so she talked about changed, tired. She told me how to do everything or changing. She

put them on. She don't just want to show them out, put my paths in. So you know that's my that's my lady. So yeah, we we brought tight. Yeah that's when I saw that information. I wasn't sure how to broach it a little bit just because of you know, being being so young. I can't imagine, you know, I we haven't you know my kids. My oldest is twenty

four right now, and our youngest is seven. Ten is seven, and so that large gap and we see sometimes a little Deuce wants to play with his big brother Peyton Man Peyton twenty four pet over here, like man gonna work on the sales too bad the same way, Yeah, Pett like, Man, I love you, but dang bro like we ain't we well can play Lego so many times, right show? But pe shout out to p He's a

great big brother. So I I was trying to every guest we have on that, I try to relate and try to put myself in your shoes, and so I was just imagining what that dynamic has been like now. Um, basically, your mom is thirteen years older than you, fourteen years older than you and living life mom and son, but living life obviously in a way a different, completely different way the way you were raised, and you being able, um to also assist your mom and that you know,

how has that been for you? She's been good, man. You know, watch another going through my college days hard, you know, you know, college money, you know, because she's trying to pay help bills at the house. So you know, I had that's my group, my friendships with guys in college. Man staying at day house with Thanksgiving and we have to go all way home when the duke go in Mississippi, so it's a long travel there. But uh, you know,

we worked it out. Man. She always made sure I stayed on my grind, had me focused, you know, and be honest, Ma, I always appreciate it because I had me a child too, at a fifteen years old. You know, she took my son and while I was in school, raised him. You know, uh mind my son just turned fifteen. So yeah, we're gout. Therena went there on the same path. So you know, she did the same thing my grandma did for her while she was in school, raised my

raised me. So you know, we kind of gotta understanding. Man. We kind of got a great bard and you know, we kind of got a good game playing going. Man. I was I was that walking through that being fifteen years old. You know, man, Man, it was scary. Man. You know what I'm saying. My daddy always told me said, uh it was good. He just leave it up. Somebody ain't no a baby come with it. I ain't maybe for the dude, not at I understand we're not a fifteen Well, I was like Jesus for the dude. Man,

I ain't had no idea. I had no idea what chocolate. Ain't the man you'll come with him? Even the one that do come, it ain't right. It ain't up to date. I ain't seen one. I've seen one. I got four kids, I didn't seen one, and every single one of them, every man I had from the last one. It didn't work for the first one, and the damn so they worked for the second one and they don't work. The pages ain't even readable for the third and each child you toss it out the window. Yeah, man, it was rough.

How did you How did you balance all of that? How did you balance all mean school? How do you balance having a child and you still try to go to recess? That Reid was open outside school out and she on the way to work, Hey, get your son, Hey, I can't go hang with the homies. Wpposed to say that? Nah na no, So the homies got to come to the house some time to kick it with me. But uh yeah, man, she she made make sure I was apparent, and she didn't let me just go ahead and have fun.

She couldn't do it. So she's like, I ain't you ain't gonna do it either. Let me just walking through that because that's this opportunity. You know a lot of people will, let's be honest, they will hear that and they will go, Wow, you know, so your responsible right, going to do right. You know Memoi had child when

we were young too. Yeah, so uh man, I'll take it in as an opportunity because I ain't gonna When I was growing up, you know, with a single mom, I kind of looked to the streets a little bit as a as a male figure. You know, so I kind of grew up a little rough and um. When I had him, and he he kind of open my eyes up a little bit because I think I wanna be while I'm at the day without him, open open you up yours to what because I had a responsibilit of it.

You know, growing up, I ain't handing none. I just was like here, being reckless and really looking for gunan's. You know, my mom was doing the best thing she could, but ain't nothing like a father, you know. So I was looking for it in the streets in the wrong way, doing going out the wrong path, you know, fighting doing everything. When I had him and I settled down real quick, and you know, just because I had a job to do, my mom made sure this is my job. Now, this

is a job that you gotta do. You gotta provide, you gotta be a father. You gotta be a guy that he looks up to. Guy you wanna be like, uh, you know, you gotta be a prime example of what a man should be. And uh, you know she led me the right way. I try to do my best. Add I think I'm doing a great job at it, man, but nobody's personally. I continue to keep trying to strive into that area. But you know, without him, and I

probably won't be. While I'm mad, I want to kind of motivated as a kid trying to go to the league even though I was talented, because it's like, you know, walk from it just it's just it was just this so uh but yeah, he kind of set me down. Maybe really understand the blessing I was really given and I took advantage of it. I love cut to It and I love it even more when you download us and subscribe, and you can follow us on social media too,

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Oh yeah, I ain't do no work, man. I started doing no work from from young days until I had to understand that work not not doing school. When you were in school in high school, you know what, psychologically, how did you how did you balance staff down to school and no, just how did you balance? You know you should have did you work, but you didn't. You you obviously talented football player, mm hmm, but understanding talent

without education sends you nowhere, seeing me nowhere? So psychologically, what were you thinking in playing junior college and you know, having a child battoting between being pulled from kicking it with the boys in the streets hunkering down doing work that Let's be honest, you really want to do? No, I don't care if you play sports or not. No kid really likes to sit down, and do you know being being in school for eight hours and then go

do four hours of homework. I don't care how smart you are, that's not really what they want to do now. They may want to do it sometimes, but not all the time, not not for the not for the nine months that school is is in session. I had a great like when I had my kids, I got I had great godparents because of my god that here was a great role model. So they really set me down and asked me what I wanted to be in life,

how I want to be an example from my kids. So, like I said, I just kind of like locked in. I want a smart guy. I want the bright guy. But I knew what I had to do to make sure I stayed elgible to play. So when it came to school, I ain't know. I just did enough to get by. You know, if it's at if it's a if it's a seventy on the paper, getting a six and seven, man, look here, And if it's a sixty seven, I'll do anything from a little three points to get a seventy. So and then you know, So that's what

it was with me. I had kind of like they had a game plan for me. So if my grade wasn't that good, I just you know, I wouldn't get to ask questions. I have to go ask teacher what I could do for some anstra credit anything, that's that's the I did good by myself. I kind of understood like I got a great relationship with people like I wanted the guys that kind of like a happy, old lucky kid. I always had a smell on my face and I was already very speciful because that's where I'm from.

So if I had and so the teaching never just my just like hunt, hunt, do this get some actual credit? So I could have did it just the maj sture. I was eligible. I did it. But that was smart. Man. You don't say you're not smart like that was smart. Don't Yeah, yeah, grads don't mean you ain't smart. Yeah, I know some really smart people. Dumb as hell? Correct, you know you're right, stone cold stupid. You hit you hella right, like a lot of stupid because you got

the grades don't make you smart. There's a difference, and there's a lot of CEO CFO CEO walking around dumb as hell. Listen, I have a conversation with you, like, damn, I didn't get that job because he got a degree. Got got a degree from here. Boy can can't put together to two pencils. So through all of that Junior College, Mississippi State, all that as you went through your journey. Who are some of your biggest mentors? Uh, Like I said, I had so you know, rest of piece to uh

my agent, I had Eugene Parker. So uh that's why I had gotta introduced to Rod Woodson and Dion, you know, because I was his agents. So through my dropt process. Now, like I said, I got a whole month working with them, two guys you know, film watching it from different point of view, from an athlete to standpoint and then from a guy that kind of wasn't more of a technician and you know, so man, they just really just took me in the wing man. I was really blessed man

with Tom run of myself a great paper. Got real lucky on that. I said, Like I was real blessed man because like nobody don't get that. You know, I'm one years old coming from this every you know, going to Dion house, hanging with him the house by house and openly you know, good like living good. I'm starstruck. Every Jersey ain't got any house. I'm taking a picture of it. They don't we know through the house, ain't it stand that was standing I'm scared to go to

their pantry. But sorry, no stomach grumbling. I don't want to over ask, hey, over statement welcome, But goodness, man, I'm moving here with de honey Rod like it's a blessing. So I just really took a great vantage of that. Man. Let's let's let's rewind it a little bit. Man, we're gonna do somebody. We're gonna do some icebreakers based off what you said. Man broke. No, no, this is I got some icebreakers right now. This man tell us something talking about you in the House of Dion. You know

you're going from Mrs You. You went from the basement to the penthouse. Tell me tell me some of your favorite snacks that you was uh that you you was spying on the Dions pantry. So, uh damn. I've got a little you know, a little peanut little rolls like they're like like they look like and they look like what gonna simmer rolls, but they're not like they're the peanut little rolls and they come in to a little brown box, uh, the pe like the peacan wheels. Yeah,

I was smacking up on them. It was bad about it. They don't come into they just come in one little bag. So I'm grabbing like three, I'm like chilling. Man. I'm like, damn, well don't I don't think. But he had a bunch of boxes. You might not know he knew they was missing. Somebody had to eat him. No, I'm not me. Yeah, all right, that's pretty dope, man. Tell us growing up play the Mississippi from Georgia right in a deep, deep,

deep deep south. Right, tell me something of your heroes growing up as a kid, and you gotta name him though, like he doesn't have to eat be anybody important. Man, I'm talking about heroes in your life. Man, my hero mine. You know, my my oldest son for sure. You know, like I said, changed my life. And uh and my god dad. You know my biggest hero what your god? My god named Johnny Davis. Yeah, man, shoot, when I

gotta said, when I my story going on? My uh my mom had moved to Atlanta and I ain't gonna move. I had all the scholarships, all the offers at my at my high school. So I'm like, man, I can't leave, you know, I want to start fresh. I'm my my brand, so you know her her my stepdad moved to Atlanta left me down there in Atlanta. I mean brother George by myself. You chose now, you chose picked up. You said they left me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I said I left myself, but they ain't leaking out.

Chose to pitch stay though, and uh you know at the time, and my mom couldn't just pay both friends. So it was rough. So me and my son, right, I'm walking to my grandma stay like probably like ten blocks down. I ain't want to go stay at my grand my house. I just like, you know, me and my son, I want to bring too men. You know I had my sponsibility. Man, My god dad has seen me when my mama had couldn't pay the bill. My god dad has seen me walking and uh that's when

he became my guy dad. He's seen me walking. But here's my coach and uh and picked me up and told me that you mean you conna live with me? You know that's what maybe gone. So took me out of the house, you know, move me in with his kids, just my two god brothers. So what's that? What's that do for you? Man? What for you? For your heart? Wash?

It hit me, He'll hit me hard. Like you know what I'm saying because I had a lot of family back at home, and you know that I wasn't going down the rown path of Meno because, like I said, I was really kind of like a bad kid. And him for him to open his doors up to me like that man really just kind of like touched my heart that really, like he no, he did not see that I could be like a crafty, but he's just doing was you know, what was on his heart, what's

best for me. And even though he like he got to brain this to his wife, his other kids, like he got another amount of feed in here with two because I had a son and you know, and his wife and my brothers, my guy. But it's kind of setting me with open orange. You know. It's just like we're good and um, you know, and I always appreciate the man I bought to my draft date. You know, everybody was mad at the crib man. Yes, your guy, daddy, Yeah, ain't my dad? And then in my daddy you know,

so that's I always looked at it. Wow. So how you know, knowing all of that, you know, how does that work for you now? Psychologically? With you made it right? You've what you make in a game, it takes people ten years to make a quarter of it. How do you balance the wants? How do you balance people asking you for things? Now that you're here right at the

top of the mountain. However, when you're at the bottom mountain with them, you know they were they were just fending for themselves as well, right, And I and I phrase it that way, it's just because you know, it's it's always this this this great responsibility, right, and it's just great expectation from people, right, the people that they didn't have enough to help you. It's not their fault, but it all of a sudden, this this expectation. Now that you've made it, so you can help them because

you you've got enough to feed. You know, you've got enough to feed a whole a whole village, which is true. Now you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna start your village, but to to to feed the whole village, right, because there's a lot of needs and wants. How do you balance that? Man? How do you how do you how do you decipher? How do you and the wife decipher

between the yes and the nose? Yeah? Well I had to you know, when I was a rookie was tough, you know, just because I first got it, got the money. You know, as a kid, we tell all your home whether yeah, we when I make it, we all made it, you know what I'm saying. So when I had my second child, you know, so I like, danmg, I gotta look at life different. And then my god dad and my mom have already been saying it, like hey, slave, say your money. You know, whatever you do, it is

what you do. What do you do for us is that's how you're do it. Like I said, I was really blessed man, I had one I got you know. Of course I ran into some guys that just want to, like, you know, ask me for money. That's just how I dope. But the one that I deetly care about, deeply love about, and really risk their lives to like come out there and you know, stick their neck out for me, they don't ask me for nothing. You know, they just kind of like, you know, even though I offer it, they

don't ask for nothing. They kind of just want to be to be supportive, so they'd be more to guys like come to the game. You know, they always byd their tickets to come to the flight to the game away Like, so I always show my appreciate singo you know we need to go out to eat or you know, I'll do a little great you know, surprised on one they birthday or something like that. So I don't read it to some people that you know that be just

asking for money or whatever whatever. But you know I love them, but yeah, they don't fect me out of my godparents. And because they don't ask for no, you know, it'd be different that they did because I feel away. But they don't ask for nothing. They just like, hey, what do you do for us? It's what you do and re appreciation. So the kind of people that kind of ask for stuff, I kind of weed them out

the answers. No, it ain't hard for them. They like I said, I would give us your best version of no. Uh see. The thing about me is now that the fact they've got I phones, right, you know that's where you're going stupid. That's why I go to Android stupid, said nobody. Ever, I kind of got because like it tells you, if you read it, then you don't see that read you your receipt off. You gotta try to re receipt off. No, I keep it on for they

can do. I don't read it, and you want that's your note, you know, like, hey, yeah, I read it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna address it. They're gonna see me ten thousand texts. Nah, I ain't gonna right back.

It's like what I always what I try to do is I will wait, even if i'm help, I'll wait because I believe if I wait, that that allows them to think about other resources, right, because you know, when we get to ask, it's perceived as the hell Mary throw right, it's you know, you know you're only gonna get half of the truth. Always yeah, oh I'm about to lose my house or I'm about to lose my car. Now, well,

you ain't telp me he ain't paid in seven months? Right, yeah, maybe wait to the last the last minute, and it's not it's not like yes, and and then waiting to the last minute seven months of none payment. That's a big check. So what I've tried to do, I don't know. If you do this, I don't. I try to only write two entities. So if you call me and say, man, I'm behind two car payments, cool, all right, all right, send me the information. I shoot, yeah, who I send

it to? If you really let's let's say you're driving a forward, if you really need that Ford payment taken care of, take a picture of that of your bill, I can I can pay it online for you. Right, online payments. They don't authorize anything. They accept whoever is paid. I write a check. No, no, you you got to write it to to the to the entity. Yeah, because then think about it if if you don't write it to the end of Let's just hypothetically say it's a

two thousand dollar bill. Well, if I give you two thousand dollars or you know, zail or ven Mo or cash app, whatever whatever you're looking for, if I sending that to you, all of a sudden, on your way to wherever you're going, you're gonna pass some places that that two thousand dollars is gonna be tickling your pocket. Right, you know what? Oh mind getting I do? Need? You know Walmark? That Walmart got this new uh inch curve on sale. You know, a little one hundred and fifty

two hundred dollars ain't gonna hurt. And then all of a sudden, boo boo boo. And then they're back to square one. That that has happened when I've sent people money then all of a sudden, as for a week later saying no, no, no, what happens is I learned that they lost their car. Like when I go back home, I'm like, what happened to your car? Well what happened was yeah, And so that's what we do. We pay entities. So if you know what I mean, all the time, man,

my edition went out? Okay, cool? How much they say to replace it? Oh, it's about and I do housing stuff, so I know I know how much it would be. Like, oh it's you know it's aboutkay? Is that inshurts? No, we'll do the insurts. Go ahead, take care of I know it's gonna be about forty three hundred dollars, but I'll pay you. I'll pay it. Just run it up, send me the bill. I'll take care of. You'd be

surprised how many people don't follow through. Hey, you catch a lot of thus like that, and then can't you catch them just because they're looking for something else? Right? And the reason I know is, shoot, I was that per same person. Right. We grew up in we we're in a family we grew up in the same neighborhood. We grew up in the same d n A. I know how we think. Right, we're trying to get a come up. Cut do it, cut do it. Let's getting down to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did you get

that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh yes, I got it from cut to a podcast dot com where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts, so you know, tell us, so you know what you're looking forward to, Uh this offseason? Tell us how O T A s are going for you? You know, um for the Philadelphia Eagles. Just everything that's

going on. Are we going? Good? Man? Just working out? Um? Shoot, I'm the old head now, you know. Uh, I got more years and all the whole dvs together. You know, I got some young guys in the room, well first and second year guys. So we're just working and I'm trying to get around right. You know, I got TV young boys. Man, they'd be trying to be out heads just to be think it's cool that I'm in the league. They want to be slaggy, they want to tom in Man the blessing to standing here. Y'all got to get

the work. Y'all coming for the show. We're trying to y'all need to stay, your workers need to stay. Let's let's hoover an, let's let's let's talk. Let's talk about that. Because there's you know, as an old head, you know, doing TV, a lot of people come across I come across people all the time. They're talking about shade. I'm hating and like oz Man Stevie hating on such and such. And I had to have a conversation with a gentleman

um I won't name. I had to look. I had to look to brother and nine and I asked him. I said, um, what I'm ma jealous of? And I looked him up and down, like from his shoe to the top of his head. What am I you in your career? You've got your money, you got a girl, you got a family. I got a girl, I got a family. I'm not sure what I what you have that I'm missing? I and I looked at him. He was he was he was kind of dumbfounded. I was

dumbfounding in the conversation I had to have anyway. But it's it's just the fact that like I have to explain these young guys and oh man, you hating? What am I hating about? You? New generation weird? Like the new generation is like you know, oh man, you know I joke out I've loved now that I'm I'm oning Captain Petty right, But they're like, oh man, you're throwing shade. How sixteen year vet and google my Google how much money I made over my career? What shade of my throwing?

Uh money shade? I've had all the top I've had all the top cars right on the new car that's come out that's doing Trucker's Lambeau. But I had to I had to Bentley Truck, I had several G wagons. I had to let's see, um everything. Yeah, I didn't had everything. I didn't had. I had to christ the three D when it was the boot egg Bentley and I got to had I had the baby Billy. The baby Billy was in the business account. I want to one of those in high school, So man, I listen,

it's a baby. I had the baby Bentley and then I rolled up on a real Bentley. Uh Man, I turned that baby billy in. I said, that thing is a rip off. That baby billy. I rolled up. We was both bumping, but when we hit gas, that real billy said boom. Baby billy said, I said, you know, I need to save my money. It took me. It took me, It took me my going in my ninth year, I bought a used one. I said, okay, thing, and now now I'm electric. You don't hear me. You don't

even hear me. Take off, man, I listen. I paid twenty one dollars the other day for phill up. M Hey, I gotta thing. I was wriggling my shoulders every time. I was like, yeah, boy, um man talking talk about these young guys though. You're talking about how they they like to show up. You know, they're just happy to be in the league, participation, um salaries, trophies, right right.

I was trying to I told my young buzzer of the day, man, uh, I said, man, when you even when you get drafted, man, the next day, they're looking to replace you. You know what I'm saying, That's just how the business is. You know, you don't it don't matter like that's what the point about standing because they're looking at for somebody to replace you right now today they drafted you to be replacing, so I'll be just locked down. I would learn that from my O. G

shea man. Him Matt is a thirteen year od vet that came from Jason Beta, King of Detroit. He just he always he made me never feel comfortable, you know what I'm saying. Don't get comfortable slave, you know, And that's why I never did. You know, I always have enjoyed my time in the league. But between them lines and I'm trying to learn in that meeting room, trying to get everything packed down, everything pulls post me in the even chilling feed up, like man, you'll better come

on with it. Like so yeah, then you know, I don't know how they operated. But you only got one shot and you only gotta you only got a little span. You know, you only in your prime between twenty one and seven. Said, if you know what, you gotta make all the money you can now, because most likely a lot of guys that come out and lead, most guys don't want to work, really work work. They want to join something they really want to do, you know, And

that's like prob. You know, like some people want to be podcasts, some people want to be whatever whatever, But people ain't really trying to really have to put in the whole, another off the whole, another job. Why do you why do you think that is? Huh? I said, why do you think that is? Why do you think that is? Like, while you're working, it's hard. I don't understan why you're working. It's hard for to just be average.

You know. I don't want to be average. I want to be able to be sit back and enjoy my kids and all that kind of stuff. I got a different motivation and all that. I want to be able to join. I don't want to be at the work and have to miss my kid game or something because I got to clock in somewhere because I didn't do what I posted it five years ago. You know, when they only want to think it costs is hard work.

You know, talent go down quick. You know. The consistent guys work hard, you know, And that's what I've been consistently working hard and hard, work out to beat talent every day. You know. It's just different when I put you you the O G slate, Now where you see yourself in ten years. Oh, man, I honestly see myself man being like, uh, ain't like a coach. So to my kids, my kids, yeah, I want to coach them up, but I want to try to tell you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I want to put my feet up. Man.

I would working hard ten years, but my body up for so. I want to watch my kids grow up. Man, they played them out. Yeah, my boys played football. I want to play baseball. A little girls. You know, I got a baby girl. She could probably be in some track, you know. So I just want to just talk to you right now. Don't let him do dance. Please, do not let them look at my little girl. A little boy. So she's the only little girl, so she's like a

little tom boy. Let me tell you something, man, dance competition, we're not in that. My daughters more like that, Shane and Bro. I'm telling those as competitions. One super inappropriate. You got them kids dressing like that, dancing like that, and then it's all day long for twenty five seconds. It's tough. Man. My daughter did I and some of those dance competitions. Something my blessing I learned. If the last name is vil, good luck on the hotel Charlotte's Ville.

Hunter's Ville ain't got no big name hotels. It's red roof and red roof in Express holiday and holiday and Express residency. And you know, it's it's tough. You're sitting in something something some sitting in some high school auditorium, bumping up bump for what parents terrible, terrible, and then you and then you have to wait that to the end to find out if you want or not stuff. It's a sham. It is then addresses and a makeup. You know, ten year old supposed to be having full

own makeup like that. Not my baby girl. I'm like, I'm glad right now it's gonna change. Don't she only want? But you got anything you want to get off your chest? There too much to get off my chest. You know. I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a solid assassin. You know, I'm just trying to do it, not letting film do my talking, you know. But I do know people start trying me with that top five stuff that people out of out of line. Do you do you do you get offended by not being in the top five? You know, No,

I'm I'm not trying to be funny. I'm asking because I said I said something this weekend. You know, people are saying, so somebody said, uh, big talk from a slot receiver. First of all, stupid. I didn't play in the slot a lot. Really I wish you did, but unfortunately I was crazy. Yeah, like, if you're gonna insult at lista saw me with the right facts, you know. But that's why I'm asking, like, how do how do

you balance that? I mean, I just kind of I don't read too much to do with the fans tall, but when there's another professional player, and definitely when they accolades don't add up to minds. When I got and when he got, come on, man, y'all can be saying this, and definitely I don't. That's one thing I don't like the talker. I don't like that guy to be like, oh man, he right, but how am I right? But you don't got no pro, no all pro no nothing.

So if I'm just all right, you might be some garbride Trump, you know, man, straight up and and that we and then people be just talking craam like ill be ain't kind of I'll be trying to annoy it. But then you know, sometimes because I worked too hard for this game to be talking about I'm aye or you or your system guy? That's real. Yeah, ye, I ain't got crazy. No, I'm still waiting for the right system I was in, because I remember the system I

was in. It was not the right system. I haven't been in all of I've been the whole man sitsu uh system with number man seventy played out of seventy five. Then I've been in the zone system. So I don't did it all. So what do you prefer? I prefer Man, That's what that's like. It's just easy. That's just like it's easy for me to read routs. You know, I don't. I don't want to look at too many other things, you know, I don't want to be sinking multi You

don't like multitasking, can I? Yeah you can hear, Yeah, yeah, I'm multitassing it. I'm running looked up that it's like. Then I'll turn it to the receiver so I don't win to everything. So you you really just like to focus on the receiver, turn your back so you can watch him and not have to get sidetracked a little bit. I mean I could play off too, but I just like to press a little bit. Yeah, okay, so that being I like to get active. Man, that's why I'm

out here. I ain't, you know, to get at them. Yeah, it's too easy now. The game too slow now, I mean I probably won't get that at them. When I was younger, I was trying to understand it. But now it's too easy. Really tell when the game just slower, it just slower for me. That's why it's too easy, you know. Of course I don't know. We're profession and I'll get beat. But I've been doing what I get beat with, like, uh, back when I was young, I'm

getting beat. Left it right, So you say it's from a surreaper context, so people know, yeah, you you you understand your weaknesses. Yeah, I'm like, okay, I gotta do this. But back then, man, everything was a weak and just blond dogging to me. Well that come on. When I was in practice with c J my whole first five for years, man, that man was slapping me around, happy,

losing me thinking I can't do nothing right. Question you see J. He's talking about Mega Travis Alvin Johnson, Detroit lines and uh, all right, before we let you go, then I'll be remiss if I don't ask you. So, what was the what was your scouting report on me? If we were to play? Oh man, that you go, mate? You try you turn uh catches And they said they always said not fast, but sneaky fast if you don't jam them up. And they said at the high point, man,

you gotta be physical. And they said, and treat him like a running back when you tackle them. You hear right there when I wrote, Now, you know what I'm saying, I like I'm going to get if he played a little bit. I gotta know because Hall of Famer, I gotta be on my ship, you know what I'm saying. So already I appreciate that. See something, y'all. Look some of the haters that's following us. Cut to it. You here, shut down big play, shut down slave. He says, Hey,

trying to tackle agent. Ay, you're not back in the day. It's like a running back. Yeah, yeah, like a running back. You know you was we are seen a debo sounds before that, there was there was debo, and there was deebo before debo. And guess what, and I knew the original debo the original debo actually UM used to date a girl, I knew mom a Deebo debo, Deebo debo, Tiny Lester, Yeah, rest in peace, Rest in peace. But it's it'sn't it's it's it's intimidating looking at a brother

that big and he looked at two different directions. It was tough, dog. I ain't like everything you got. He gonna you don't know if he gonna hit you what looking at whoever he looked at. They're gonna catch these Paulls Man. We appreciate your time, bro, Thanks, thanks for you being appreciate you. You are a unique person. You are well worth it, you are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith, Singer, I'm Gerard Little John and this is cut to It. Cut to It with

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