This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. That's getting down to do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard him about it, then we're about to let you know. It's all well, Steve, I don't know where that came from. I like the yeah, how are you doing? I'm doing great? Man, And I'm
sitting here thinking there was an incident. Man, this was a few years ago. Yeah, with your football camp. What about your last football camp that you did? Hear in Charlotte, right, wasn't my last second of last one? One up? I know it was a few years ago. Um, you gotta tell it though, but just in terms of startin beverage and happened with some of the kids, it's just a funny story, man. So so I used to do football camps here in Charlotte, and then also, uh, you're here
too as we go down. Um, I've done football camps um on military basis as well. I've done it, and um Cam Humphreys, which is overseas. Cam Humphreys is actually uh several miles away from the d militarized Zone near South Korea, right, So i've I've been in Hawaiian, Frankfurt, Germany, so i've i've I've had the honor to serve the
military's kids all over. But so I do I But I always had a camp for about nine almost ten years here in Charlotte that I was doing, and so we had a lot of different sponsors that would come on board. And so one of our sponsors, UH for the for our camp was Sunny Dlight. Now, if anybody has ever been in the South beverage sponsor, so, if anybody's been in the south of North Carolina in July, is hot as fish grease. And when I say fish grease, you can put them till I drop that top in
there and that grease is gonna be all over. So anyway, so we're out there and it's probably ninety five degrees with UH humidity, so it's equivalent to about a hundred in two degrees hot. You're so hot on the pavement you can see the heat, the heat rising on the just going on the top of the asphalt. So we're out here about two plus kids. And so we have a water break, not a regular water break. We have a sunny D. We're providing sunny light to the children.
And let me tell you what happened. Was sunny D man. Sunny D was sniper and these kids left and right. Why because sunny D is not real orange juice. So it's not sunny D has less. I think it has ten percent orange juice, the orange drink the ninety percent of the other juice. It's stuff. And it's not a drink or juice. It's it's a drink. And we all know what happens when you drink too much drink. That
he got to bubbling. These kids would they weren't passing out, you know how they were losing in the football camp. We were losing the kids by vomit. These kids, these kids were running routes and just falling out. We had about twenty kids that just when stopped. Now you gotta imagine when the kids stopped because you got bubble guts. I think I got it. I don't feel so well, I don't feel so good. I made an executive decision no more Sunday. And I love the financial commitment. I
love the product. Kids out here hurting, but we got to get this Sunday out of here just for everybody. They weren't padded. It's just shorts of shorts, right, It's just touch. It's not full contact. That I don't believe having full contact. The way you introduced kids on plane is you don't. You let them gradually acclimate to getting hit, but you don't. You don't teach a little kid how to catch a football when he knows that the next
little kickly is playing middle linebacker on the field. It's really hard to keep up what's on the ball when you're about to get your ribs broken. Right, And Bro, we were losing kids. I'm talking about so that literally the next day, two day, two day cam, three day camp. We literally the next day, I said, Bro, we took all the d because it was not it was not providing the hydration. Dog day was dying. We was losing
kids left and around. I mean we had we lost twenty, like twenty kids just did not show up the next day like Sunny d took out. You know what they talked about all the turf monster real it was awful over. The sad part is, you know I gotta drink the product. I don't drinking that product. I start, you know, start you too, and I don't starting you hit this. That's
the litt It was hurt. Sunny D athletics and running around not not the best comba listen, sunny D bet not ever whatever ever ever show athletic sport and drinking after quenchy your thirsty was a sunny D. It would be your last sport. So that that's the sunny D story. But man, tell his day, Bro, it was bad. My son, he was like, yeah, dadda. When I saw Kevin, I was like, yeah, I gotta stop drinking a Sunday because
it was free. So they gave us case case like we were giving it was like two hundred fifty kids. Each kid got two Sunnyds to take on. We had like four hundred sunny D's, but we dumped them. We had to dump the product because it was killing the kids. It was killing. That'd be, like I hate to say, that'd be like giving kids Mexican food to go play sports. Like, Bro, can you imagine you drop that point this? Bro? Can you imagine running a post route after eating a babe
though I don't really want to know. That's probably you made that. It's gonna be the last. Don't let that quarterback leads you into a messy situation. You needed, but you needed a black nickname anyway. Now your name Scooter. It's always a black school. Hey, how you guys doing. Steve Smith Senior here and g um welcome to the podcast. When my Spanish is russy, so I don't know, is that right when it's started, if it's afternoon, when it's not? Just it's because you know I was a little bi lingual.
You ain't botty ling anyway. We got our booking manager on here, Joe Fushi, nicknames Scooter aka Backstage Joe. He was backstage, but we brought him. We brought him to the limelights. So Joe's Joe's want of homeboys and good dude, very talented is this man? Yeah, makes a lot of this happen. I'll tell you what his ass is, not that he is not a good communicator on this subject at hand. So we were talking this weekend, and Joe
has a boat, and Joe loves to go on this boat. Now, Joe loves to play golf with Smitty, but Smithy ain't as good as Joe. But Smitty got the membership and Joe got the boat. So it's a nice boat. And so Joe loves being on the boat, and his beautiful wife Kim says, look, if you get the boats, you can't have a country cutp membership. So Joe's you know, Joe's my golf and buddy. I love hanging out with him. Great dude. Business as well helps me a lot of stuff.
So me and Joe chilling, and I know, so I get some shoes, uh do some yard work, and so they have these cool like boots but their waterproof and so I can hold them down and not get my socks well, and I hate wet socks. Like that is like like I'm like two things like yard that y'all work that I hate wet socks and picking up dog poop. But I got a dog, so I pick up dog poops. So the only thing I can really get away with is not having wet socks. So I say, man, these
these shoes. And then I discovered that this these boots, they also make both shoes. So I'm gonna read your text. Good morning Joe, quick question, what shoe size are you morning, Steve? I am a ten and a half two eleven and a half, so we gave you range depends on the style. So at this time, Joe did not know I am trying to order these shoes as I am texting him.
So now I'm like, you just need one size? Yes, So I said, all right, let me gather up something that we can all identify with generally Nike's depending on Nike's run small. So I said, what sizes are you and Jordan's? And here's where it gets interested, Scooter, Okay, here we go? What what he goes? I said, what size? And I even s z in Jordan's. So now I'm meant to like cutting into like a specifics. What's it? I got the laptop up, It got two pair of sizes left. I want to get my boys some some
some boat shoes. All right, I wear eleven and the eleven half if I tighten them up. Now, so I go back up and I said, first of all, he's a ten and a half to eleven and a half, and now he's an eleven. But if I tighten them up, eleven and a half. So there is I don't ever want to see. Here is my reply. Here's my reply.
What blankety blank size are you? Bro? I don't want the hood size when you can't afford to pass up what they're giving you, grown ass man, you're wing you walking into a true store to get a pair of Vans. What size can I get you? Sir? Joe reply is you can get me size eleven? I said, not in between sizes. I've looked that up. There is no slides between ten and a half and eleven and a half, and there's definitely no size for eleven and a half. When I tightened them up, He's like, damn, why are
you on me so bad? I said, we read your replies? See why dot I died this whole time. I'm trying to order you a pair of shoes and I gotta read this. Can I jump in here? First school? First off, yours tied tight right now? No, they are not tied. And guess what shoes he's wearing currently right now? Vans? Thank you? So, I really don't have an excuse for this. I really really thought I was being good friend Joe,
because you know, like when somebody's gonna help. I felt the vibe somebody was getting me something you know how you want it, like you get that gift from an aunt, and like it's a sweater with a V neck, and like you don't want to act like you don't. And I know Steve knows me well enough to know it's gonna be nice. So I'm just trying to be open guy. And then I go back and read, and I was thoroughly, thoroughly embarrassed. I was stuttering if you can do that
in text? Says, how are you studying a text message? I was giving nine eleven sizes, like he said, I felt like growing up when your big friend gives you them old shoes. Man, I put four pair of socks on as long as I can get him, and they fit, So you're grown ass, man. Why are you tightening up? Don't ever see you tightening up? I said, what size? Are you between? Ten and a half and he left ten and a half is a size three sizes? No
ten point seven five. Even if you're even if you're your right, you still have to buy two different pairs of shoes to discover which he tried to give you a damn fitted hat size, and it's a shoe, I said, re read what you're saying I did, and I apologized, and I'm thankful for the gift I'm received. I didn't even wanted the shoes because I was so irritated you
didn't even get all of this. I was irritating up in order, well not in order, because the whole time I'm going through this batch, like what's what size do you wear? Man? This is like eight thirty in the morning, and I'm like, I was getting Saturday ripped Sunday Sunday. I was ripped a part for like this one. I'm like twenty minutes and it's all my fault. It's one I take ownership, my fault. It's COVID. But the best part about it is when I finally got it down,
I'm eleven. We did all of this, that's your size. Just cut to it, bro, That's all you had to do. We have to take a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. You got checks. I love cut to It, and I love it even more when you download us and subscribe and you can follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at that's at? Cut to It? On Instagram? What about twitter? At? Cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr
what about online? And you can follow us at cut to It podcast dot com where you can buy merch and you can subscribe to us wherever you this in the podcast, I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A brother. Cut to a podcast dot com. Hey, we're back in the studio. Cut to its Steve Man. How's it going. Bro's going good? You know, it's going real good. I'm I'm excited um for the day because we got
a really cool guest. But then also, you know just how the stars aligned. Man was out playing golf the other day. Tell me abody, right, So we're playing golf and I'm I'm pretty I wouldn't go on the tour and say I'm a pretty good golfer because I'm not. Um. But I can if I hit the bar, if I get moving, yeah, if I if I get if I get my making contact, if I get my driver on it and go I get hit about two big range. I just smack it, but I gotta slice. I'm trying to get rid of so bang I hit that thing
about it goes about to fifty. Of course, I'm playing that the eighteen and nine is real narrow, so they're they're playing right next to each other. Boom, So I veer right. I gotta slice feers right. So I'm probably a huney yards from the green. I'm just on the other whole. I'm on the ninth hole. I'll tell you when that happens. So I got a honey yards to the green, ninth on the ninth hole, on the right
next to him. So I played with um. I don't like playing with the standard white ball because I struggle to see to find it this early morning, I don't care if his afternoon. I'm on the struggle bus. So I played. I played with a lot of different color balls, and so I played with a red one, which is red as my favorite color. So I'm playing it. Hit it. So it's on the other one and playing with my boy Joe, and so I'm like, Joe said, I got
you all right, So I'm going over park. I'm going over there as a gentleman on the nice hole as well. But I'm on eighteen, so I'm interfair in his game. So I take my time and I make sure I can go after he hits and I'm looking for this red ball on this green, green fairway so it's not hard to miss, and I'm like, where's my ball? So I go over and then this guy's looking at me very in my mind, I'm going, damn, he's gonna wanta gotta do this whole. I recognized that as you. Yeah.
So I've had guys approached me. Hey, man, you sign my golf ball whatever, right, So I'm going on there and I'm like oh, and he's so he as he's going, he goes, hey, did you hit a red ball? Yeah? Did you hit the red ball? Oh? No? No, So I'm like, okay. He was like, oh, is this your ball? Yeah? So he found it. No, he didn't find my ball. This song Ago takes my ball. Oh, he stole it. He stole He picked my ball up. He said, red ball.
He looked up and said no. He said, Lord, thank you for this red callaway ball that you've given me that I have not hit that that I did not purchase, but I'll take it. Right, takes the ball, puts it in his bag. So when I approach him, I said, yeah, bro, you got my ball. He is now looking at me as if I'm going to beat him up, and I'm still probably about thirty yards away from So we're like having this loud talking this in conversation. He put his ball in his bag and he's staring at me pulling
my ball out of his bag. So he's caught. He's caught still in my ball, red handed with the red ball. Yes, and so he goes, hey, did you hit the red ball? So my reply to it, what did you did? You not play with the red ball? Well, here's what makes it even classier. They don't have later take my boys to play golf. They want to hit the driving range. Dawn, you played without this the other day. Can you all right? Let's go pull up? So I got deuced six years old,
I got Boston years old. Pull up, We part. I get out of my car. Guess who is putting his bag into his trump red ball thief? Yes. He looks at me sticky fingers, and I just giggle. He goes, hey, how you doing? I said, take any balls like me? He looked at me, got in his car and Doocey goes, is that the guy who took your balls? I said, yep, that is him. He goes, he better drive off. Because this story has never been told, let's go what's on your mind? What's on your mentor? So what's all my
mental is? We usually don't. We usually don't. We usually do evergreen. But this is gonna be stapled with we're gonna marry this with a panther. So we're gonna go with a Carolina Panther insider Juicy Moose and Smitty, Uh conversation, So a conversation when you and Musi mohammed, yeah, pull it. You're pulling this out. The archives is in the crates. This is actually I'll say this start off. Moose is like my big brother. We were super competitive, uber uber competitive.
But there were times where I got on moose nerves and Moose got on my nerves. As as what happens in brotherhoods. So my rookie wasn't my rookie year, my second year one of my years. Uh. Actually Moose didn't know it. But Moose kind of made me who I was, who who I am today? And high Win is UM coach Richard Williamson was He was always tough on me, always tough and um one day. Uh and his wife, Norma, I loved them, love her she you know, speak to her.
I never can say anything negative towards Richard. He always pushed me to places that I didn't want to go, and that's the sign of a great coach. But on this day, Richard was the offensive coordinator. Mike McCoy was the wide receiver's coach. Mike McCoy was the head coach of the same save um offense coordinator for Denver Broncos when UH coach McDaniels became head coach, and then he became the head coach at San Diego Chargers and now
he's just at the house chilling. So one day, um so, this was my rookiere one day running the wrong routes, old West Coast offense. I came from a number system out of college, and Richard Williamson grabbed me and kind of like talked down to me. He was a coach, but he talked down to me and told me how he felt about me that day. That day, he didn't feel really good about me, and he kind of grabbed
me and it rubbed me the wrong way. And when he grabbed me, you know, uh, I want to say I blanked out, but I was getting close to grabbing him, and Mike kind of like stepped in between us and you know, and Richard was cussing and I said a few choice worst as well. Um, I know, big surprise, and um but Moose did something that just kind of got to me. And Moose said, man, you're from Cali. You're supposed to be one of them Cali dudes. You like that old man do that to you, And Moose
just poured it on. So my mom is one of thirteen, and I have an uncle named Tim who's maybe six or eight years older than me, but he's like my big brother. Um. He actually he got kicked out of the house from my grandfather, UM, my grandpa Alfred. He actually when I was in when I was young, he actually lived. He was my roommate, no, and when he was going to high school. And so he's like ten years older than me. So I was like a first or second grade and I'm rooming with a dude that's
a senior in high school. Super odd, right, But you know, that's just how it is a close family. And why is uncle Tim coming into the picture. Well, Moose hit me with that, and I just hit it didn't sit well with me, and I took my time coming home and I remember parking in the driveway and I called him. I attacked them and I called him. I actually chirped him because and so he called me. He's like, what's up?
And I told him what happened? And I told him how moose and kind of like you know how he played this, played up the situation in a in a on the field in the locker room, and I just remember crying and I was really emotional about it. And my uncle said, well, you know, Steven, um, this isn't Steven. I know, first of all, why are you crying like this? And I explained it to him and he was like, well, you still haven't told me why you're crying like this,
because that's not to Steven. I know, this is not the Calie. It's not to It's not the family member, the kid that I know. And his response really challenged me. He was he was not empathetic sympathetic one bit. But what was really cool is I remember he said, so what are you gonna do about it? I was like, what you mean? He said, what the funk are you gonna do about it? And I remember I was like,
you know what, all right? He said, no, I want you to tell me and I said, well, he's like, the best thing you can do to get back at Moose is what I don't like. You know, you're all emotional. I don't know what was I asked, you know, He's like, no,
what can you do? From that day forward, Moose challenge and ignited me to the point of and again I say this, really, I have a great relationship with Moose, but what Moose doesn't on the standards, Moose created me because when I got off, when I got off the phone, the things that I said to my uncle is which I lived every day, which is my goal was to remove Moose off every category in the wire receivers record
books for the Carolina Panthers. My goal was to when they say Carolina Panthers wire receiver, Moosie Mohammed's name is not to be mentioned. And from that day forward, whatever Moose did, my goal was to do it better. If he called one pass one one hand, I want to catch ten. If he called two first downs, I want to catch twenty. If he finished with twenty yards of yak,
I wanted to catch with forty. Every single day from that day forward, my goal was to remove Moose from the record books and there's only gonna be one name mine. Every single day for four or five years, it didn't matter, smiled at him. I loved him. Still still a colleague, right still. But my goal was to remove him from the record books. And the crazy part is because at that moment he challenged me and didn't know it, and
he invented me and every day after that. Because when I first came out, I was seven in college, so I wanted eighty seven and I asked him. He was like, go see someone. Well, I mean, I didn't know any better, but you know, also, all you can do is tell me no. So I was like, all right, cool, And so what's crazy is you know, no, nobody really knows that. The one person that really knows it. And he told me he never he said, never tell him that story. Mr Richter told me Moose did not. Don't ever tell
Moose that he created you. So he didn't even know that. Now he doesn't even know that. He probably because you know that they'll probably run it. But the fact of the matter is that's the reason why it went so hard. That's why I never really got along with anybody. My goal was seeking destroy, remove, eradicate. That's what happened. I was saying, that's what you did, that's what I did.
Not respect Moose, Love Moose, but from a competitive from a competitive standpoint, competitive standpoint, you didn't have a chance. And it's crazy and a lot of people don't know that. Well, I don't have a follow up to that. You nailed it. No, what am I supposed to say to that? The crazy part? Now? And here's that He's gon like, fuck No, I mean, but you gotta respect it. You gotta respect it. So yeah, but it was cool because my uncle tell me, he challenged me, He said, what do you do? But both
dudes did? Right? Yeah, but he he challenged me. I guess my uncle challenged me because I knew the relationship me and Moose plays golf and with all that stuff. At some point probably here here this is a hill, be like, so if I wouldn't have did, Thanks Moose, Appreciate it. Appreciate you, Moose, Thank you, Mata. You are a unique person. You are well worth it, You are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith singor I'm Gerard little John and this is cut to it,
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