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Currents

Norton Rose Fulbrightwww.projectfinance.law
Currents is a podcast published by Norton Rose Fulbright that features in-depth discussions on the latest developments in project finance. The podcast is hosted by partner Todd Alexander, who interviews key business leaders and policy makers to investigate important trends affecting the energy and infrastructure space.
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Episodes

EP199: The DoC’s Preliminary Determination of Circumvention Issues

Stefan Reisinger, partner in Washington, joins us to discuss the Department of Commerce’s preliminary determination of circumvention issues. We go over the general reaction to the order, which solar panels and cells are covered by the preliminary determination, the significance for the four companies found to be circumventing, the impact the determination will have on panels that have entered before the determination was issued and more.

Dec 14, 202219 min

Ep198: Book Talk: California Burning

Katherine Blunt, who covers renewable energy and utilities for The Wall Street Journal, talks to Keith Martin in Washington about her new book, California Burning: The Fall of Pacific Gas and Electric—and What it Means for America's Power Grid, on the challenges facing utilities with aging power lines in drought-stricken parts of the United States.

Nov 18, 202242 min

Ep197: Post-Election Analysis

Five veteran Washington observers talk with Keith Martin in our Washington office about what the midterm election results mean for clean energy, storage, carbon capture, hydrogen and the project finance market. The five are Michael Catanzaro, president, CGCN group, and a former senior advisor to House Speaker John Boehner, John Gimigliano, principal-in-charge, federal tax legislative and regulatory services, KPMG, and a former House Ways and Means Committee tax counsel, Colin Hayes, partner, Lot...

Nov 16, 20221 hr 1 min

Ep196: Inflation Reduction Act

Keith Martin, David Burton and Hilary Lefko have a lively discussion about the Inflation Reduction Act’s effect on deals. Some parts of the Inflation Reduction Act that passed the Senate are retroactive to the start of 2022. Other parts apply only to projects that are placed in service after this year. The bill is expected to clear the House this week. It will affect the tax equity market. It will affect construction and equipment procurement contracts.

Aug 12, 20221 hrEp. 196

Ep195: What's New in the Market

Keith Martin gives a lively update on what is new in the market. The tax equity market is wrestling with a series of issues tied to inflation and construction delays. Developers forced for the same reasons to renegotiate power contracts are drawing interesting lessons. Rising electricity prices are affecting the economics of making green hydrogen, but hydrogen is coming and may prove more disruptive than appeared even a year ago.

Jul 29, 202231 minEp. 195

Ep194: New PJM Regulations and FERC Rules

Bob Shapiro, partner in Norton Rose Fulbright’s Washington office, joins us to discuss the new regulations in PJM and FERC rules being considered. We discuss how PJM is addressing their backlog, an overview of the two interconnection proposals, who the big winners and losers are, how the FERC proposal differs from the PJM regulations and more.

Jul 21, 202226 minEp. 194

Ep193: DOE Loan Program Office Update

Jigar Shah, Director of the Department of Energy's Loan Program Office, joins us to discuss the mission of the program and what it is working on right now. We talk about the types of deals that are relevant for the office, what Jigar views as the sweet spot in terms of size and debt for a project, how the pricing works, where he sees the renewable market going in the next five years and more.

Jun 15, 202237 minEp. 193

Ep192: Biden's Executive Order

Stefan Reisinger, partner Norton Rose Fulbright’s Washington office, joins us for a closer look at the Biden action yesterday to shield solar panels imported from Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand and Cambodia during the next two years from any anti-circumvention duties that the Commerce Department decides to impose. We discuss the current Commerce investigation, how the Biden order will affect imported panels, what it means for current financings and more.

Jun 07, 202217 minEp. 192

Ep191: Recent Evolution of the Hedge Market

Lee Taylor, CEO of REsurety, joins us to discuss the recent evolution of the hedge market due to the impacts of winter storm Uri. We get into the spectrum of hedging options before the storm, how each of those structures fared, how the hedging landscape has changed and more.

Jun 02, 202232 min

Ep190: Climate Insurance and the Solar Industry

Jason Kaminsky, CEO of kWh Analytics, joins us to discuss the company’s $20M Series B fundraise and the emergence of climate insurance. We discuss what the fundraise means for the industry as a whole, why climate insurance hasn’t emerged yet and the challenges the insurance industry faces when insuring renewables, solutions he has seen on the insurance side, the partnerships that are happening in the industry, the improvement in modeling on the underwriting side and more.

Apr 15, 202225 minEp. 190

Ep189: Proposed Tariffs Add to Uncertainty for Solar Develop

Abigail Ross Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association, joins us to discuss what the potential anti-circumvention tariffs on cells and modules from Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. We talk about why we are in the midst of an investigation, how long the Department of Commerce has to investigate and what it could mean for the industry, the percentage of panels that are sourced from these four countries, other significant concerns that Hopper has and more.

Apr 01, 202219 minEp. 189

Ep188: Energy Storage Investment Tax Credits

Keith Martin, partner at Norton Rose Fulbright in Washington, joins us to discuss investment tax credits (ITCs) for energy storage and provide an update on the current tax equity market. We get into how current ITCs apply to energy storage, what happens if you have a battery that is only partially charged by a renewables project, why an ITC for an energy storage project doesn’t work well with wind farms claiming PTCs, whether the storage and wind or solar projects have to have the same owner, wh...

Feb 09, 202218 minEp. 188

Ep187: Freeing Energy with Bill Nussey

Bill Nussey, founder and CEO of the Freeing Energy Project, joins us to discuss the shift to cleaner, cheaper energy. We discuss his new book, Freeing Energy, why he thinks local energy can be cheaper than electricity from the "big grid" and what the advantages are, the roles that natural gas, hydrogen and nuclear energy will play in the shift to cleaner energy, policies that can accelerate use of local energy, and more.

Feb 04, 202227 minEp. 187

Ep186: An Inside Look at Intersect’s $2.6 Billion Financing

Sheldon Kimber, CEO and co-founder of Intersect Power, joins us to discuss the $2.6 billion financing facility that Intersect signed in November 2021 to finance a portfolio of late-stage solar and storage projects in California and Texas. We get into Intersect’s $600 million equity raise last year, Sheldon’s openness to merchant risk, the sacrifices that need to be made when the company structures these deals, where he sees the energy storage market going and more.

Jan 26, 202242 minEp. 186

Ep185: Cost of Capital: 2022 Outlook

The year ahead looks like another strong year for financings, but with uncertainty around supply chains, inflation, potential tax law changes and import tariffs. The yield on the 10-year Treasury bond is up significantly so far in January, repeating a pattern early last year. The Federal Reserve is expected to start raising interest rates as early as March. Listen to a discussion about what to expect in the year ahead for tax equity, bank and term loan B debt and project bonds, led by Keith Mart...

Jan 19, 20221 hr 2 minEp. 185

Ep184: Scaling the Next Generation of Sustainability

Katie McClain, partner at Energize Ventures, joins us to discuss the company’s investment approach. We get into what it looks for in clean energy and climate tech companies, how its approach differs from other funds, how Katie’s policy background shapes her personal investing thesis, the way decarbonization goals are shaping the clean energy economy and much more.

Dec 17, 202118 minEp. 184

Ep183: Maximizing the Value of Renewable Real Estate Holding

Maria Klutey, president of Activate Renewables, joins us to discuss how the company’s business model maximizes the value of renewable real estate holdings. We get into the history and background of Activate, its competitive advantage, the advantage that comes with partnering with DESRI, the structures offered to landowners and developers, how much of a project’s capital stack it typically funds, challenges to the business moving forward and more.

Dec 02, 202120 minEp. 183

Ep182: Vanadium Flow Batteries

Matt Harper, chief commercial officer at Invinity Energy Systems, joins us to explain vanadium flow batteries. We discuss the future of energy storage, how vanadium flow batteries differ from lithium-ion, what has held back vanadium flow so far, what’s next for Invinity and more.

Nov 22, 202127 minEp. 182

Ep181: Intersect Power’s Approach and Latest Financing

Sheldon Kimber, CEO and co-founder of Intersect Power, joins us to discuss what he is seeing in the industry and talk about the company’s latest financing. We discuss Intersect’s interest in green hydrogen, how big of an impact tariffs are having on supply chain issues, the current tax equity market, Intersect’s $2.6B financing for construction and operations of a six-portfolio project, and more.

Nov 19, 202135 minEp. 181

Ep180: Insuring Renewables

Maryann Johnson, senior managing director of property and energy claims at Beecher Carlson, Brian DiLuigi, senior vice president of alternative energy, and Alex Nephew, risk management and insurance advisor with Brown & Brown, join us to discuss the complexities of insuring renewables. We discuss the different capabilities Beecher Carlson and Brown & Brown have to help renewable energy companies, the types of coverage the insurance market has in place for solar and other renewables, some...

Nov 15, 202128 minEp. 180

Ep179: Solar Energy Validation

Jackson Moore, product director at DNV for renewable energy software, joins us to discuss DNV's solar energy validation work and to address questions about how and why solar assets may underperform. We discuss factors that may affect the likelihood that a project will satisfy investor expectations, whether any of the common causes of underperformance may be remediable during operation, how underperformance risk is being addressed in project finance transactions and more.

Nov 04, 202125 minEp. 179

Ep178: Green Energy Infrastructure

Sam Porter and Mike Sloan, partners at Synergetic, join us to discuss green energy infrastructure. We go over Synergetic’s mission to deliver zero-carbon energy, the current infrastructure issues that it has identified, how fast the energy transition can happen, what has been learned from Texas’ proactive electric transmission plan (CREZ), what they expect from the infrastructure bill and more.

Oct 27, 202125 minEp. 178

Ep177: Sustainable Finance

Michael Edesess, managing partner, and Pascal Schoneburg, founder of M1K, join us to talk about sustainable finance. We discuss what sustainable finance is, the financial instruments included in it, whether sustainable finance has been embraced by corporations, the benefits of a sustainable investment and more.

Oct 12, 202131 minEp. 177

Ep176: A Creative and Collaborative Funding Solution

Arunava Mitra, CFO of Mitsubishi Power Americas, and Nik Nunes, CEO of Industrial Development Funding (IDF), join us to discuss their collaboration to provide creative forms of financing for energy projects. We get into who the two companies are, their plans for the energy transition, how Mitsubishi Power Americas is creating value for customers through the IDF financing solution, the most important trends and opportunities over the next 10 years in energy, where the companies see opportunities ...

Oct 05, 202132 minEp. 176

Ep175: Developing in the C&I Space

Brett Phillips, vice president, sustainable and responsible investments at Unico Solar, joins us to discuss the company and how it is developing projects in the C&I space. We get into the type of projects that Unico is investing in, the biggest challenges in developing C&I, the company’s joint venture with Excelsior Capital, how the company’s real estate background makes the contracting process easier, the company’s approach to tax equity and more.

Sep 28, 202125 minEp. 175

Ep174: Building Better Batteries

Rick Luebbe, CEO of Group14, joins us to discuss how the company brings new performance capabilities to lithium-silicon batteries. We get into how Group14’s technology works, what it means for the typical consumer, where Group14 sees the biggest demand for better batteries, what OEMs are looking for in battery materials, how Group14 is scaling up, what it will take to get everything electrified and more.

Sep 23, 202122 minEp. 174

Ep173: US Offshore Wind Market Update

Abby Watson, head of governmental affairs, North America at Siemens Gamesa, joins us to discuss the US offshore wind market. We discuss the trajectory of offshore wind on a global level, where it is headed in the US, the potential challenges the sector faces, how it compares to offshore wind in Europe, policy changes and developments that could unlock potential manufacturing jobs, how new technology could affect viability of offshore wind in the future and more.

Sep 09, 202127 minEp. 173

Ep172: Supply Chain Ethics and Transparency in US Solar

Abby Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA), joins us to discuss current supply chain ethics issues in the US solar industry. We discuss the current forced labor issues that the industry is seeing, the response SEIA has seen from the Chinese government, what is happening at the border with US Customs, the association’s traceability protocol, the new tariffs some US solar panel manufacturers are seeking and more.

Aug 26, 202123 minEp. 172

Ep171: Renewable Hydrogen Update

Jean-Louis Kindler, CEO of Ways2H, a company focused on turning the world’s waste into renewable hydrogen, joins us to discuss the company’s technology and the hydrogen market. We get into what is currently happening in hydrogen, how Ways2H fits into the hydrogen economy, its recent projects in Tokyo, Paris and the UK, where he sees the biggest demand for renewable hydrogen, the cost of renewable hydrogen and more.

Aug 16, 202129 minEp. 171

Ep170: Green Power Aggregation with Enel

Mark McGrail, vice president of the commercial office at Enel Green Power North America, joins us to discuss green power aggregation. We get into the options available to corporations that want to buy renewable energy, how virtual power purchase agreements work and why they are growing in popularity, the factors buyers should consider when making their purchasing decisions, common myths about PPAs, what Mark views as the next big thing in renewable energy and more.

Aug 02, 202123 minEp. 170
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