Tinfoil Tales - Crop Circles and Cattle Mutilations

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my substack. It'll probably be a book at this at some stage, but in the meantime it's garnering a lot of interest because people don't really understand about this element of the mystery.

of the Earth did still a B movie. They all looked like landed vessels, okay, and the polemic and the reports were reported as such they did look like landed UFOs and the president was the Tally Nests from Australia in the seventies that looked like landed UFOs, but that was in grass because were you having them in crop Because the crops higher, the indentations were were more pronounced.

And then the polemic changed in about nineteen ninety where we saw the now legendary led Zeppelin Remasters cover, which I'm sure you know about, which was more like like

a corridor with interlocking circles and forks and door keys. Now, at that point the landed ufo polemic should really have just been obliterated, because no ufo looks like that, But because the imagery and the connection between UFOs and crop circles have become so ingrained within the public psyche, we had this clunky transition where people said, well, that's not a landed ufo, it's a message from our space brothers instead.

potentially be in trouble. The second reason is this isn't about the personalities and the circle makers themselves. It's more about the stories and the anecdotes and the accounts speaking rather than the artist, and we prefer for it not to be about personalitism. We prefer for the art to be speaking. The third reason is this is a highly highly contentious viewpoint or avenue that it's not a viewpoint,

it's actually how things are. It's a highly contentious narrative I'll be giving you today, and I have a wonderful life outside of this, and I don't really want that to be encroached upon people that don't really follow what the narrative is. Now, My belief was always in, as I said, ufology, And when I started to see these crop circles appearing in the case books, I didn't realize

how close Wiltshire because that's where they were appearing. I didn't realize how close Wiltchire was to where I lived in London. And when I did realize, I just got in the car and just drove down and started to visit these things. Our sort of bible at the time and still is the Crop Circle Connector website, which tells you that where the events are and where the circles are, and I imagine that I'm probably where a lot of

your listeners are in that. I always thought that this was some sort of NHI, or it was something connected to you, to UFOs, or to military testing, or to Gia or to Mother Earth. We didn't for a second consider that they were human made, because the ones that we did see that were human made were normally really wonky.

to visit Wiltshire. I started to hang about where the circles were made, and I used to go to the gift shops and the related places like avery and Stonehenge, all these ancient, you know, really special sites. Started to hear stories from human circle made because who, as I said, I had complete disdain for. But I started to hear

stories of strangeness. I was hearing stories of like time shifts and UAPs and dream driven events, intense, intense synchronicities and stuff that was all going around the creative pro And then I was overheard one day saying, I don't care how the circles got there. I'm more concerned about what they do. I the magic that they instill into the land, and the people that you know, report all these wonderful experiences.

with us? And of course I jumped at it. But I did promise myself that if I didn't encounter any of the paranormal or you know, really odd stuff that I'd been hearing about and reading about, I probably would put it all down to lies and fabrications and people padding their part, and I promised myself I would never do it again. Now, we went into to finish this circle, and nothing happened at all, and I thought, Okay, this is all a bunch of bs. It's just these people,

you know, fabricator making themselves look big. They're just hoaxters. It's not the real phenomenon. It's just a wasted my time. And we finished the circle and the second that we finished it, I saw this single like magnesium flare at the end of the field, which looked like an old polaroid flash bowl from one of those old cameras. And I was very paranoid because i'd, as I do now, a quite as principle job. And I just said to the team leader, I said, people are taking pictures of us.

We've had and it was becoming daylight. It was about three point fifteen by this point. I said, we've had it. They're taking pictures, but that this is going to go. I'm going to get a criminal record that's going to affect my job. And he went, no, don't worry, and I said, what do you mean. He was really blase

a because he'd made loads and loads of circles. And then I watched this flash and it kept appearing, and then this flash turned into it proliferated into five flashes, then ten, then fifteen, and then it was like thirty of these like magnesium flares like UAPs at waste level, which I'd ever seen before in the literature, and it sprinkled itself around the circle from the left and right

right round the circle. So we had this proliferation of lights, which I describe in my substack as the biggest necklace in the world. And I said to the team leader, what the hell is that? And he says, look, that's just us being told. It's a little round of applause. We're being told that the circle's finished and not to do anything else to it because we might mess it up, like a painting where you do so much. And then he looked up at the sky and he said, okay,

we're finished. Now it's yours. It's all yours. What that means is that for as long as we're making a circle, it's ours, but the second we leave it, it doesn't belong to us anymore. And he said, okay, we're going now, thank you very much. And the second is said that these lights just went off, every single one. The whole thing was like someone had switched a light switch. And

that's when I became hooked. And then the second time I made a circle, we had a pink uap appeared just as we did the first stump mark, and it appeared for the duration of the circle and then blinked out once it finished. Now that's when I started to become hooked, and I started to make them regularly, and strangeness didn't happen every time, Brandon, I mean, every circle would be eventful, something funny might happen, or something amusing. But as far as high strangeness, I only had it

about forty to fifty percent of the time. But every time I did, it was really really odd. And that's the message that I'm trying to put across and trying to say to people. Don't disregard human circles because there is a high strangeness element. Actually when they're placed in these very very old ancient Neolithic and Megalithic sites like Stonehenge and Avery, where our four bears have been created like thousands of years before.

before that. Whatever it is that is here in this area Brandon has existed with us, probably since our inception, and I think that our four bears were far more tapped in to whatever it is that we've now forgotten because of our technocratic age, and I think that we are just we've just inherited the work of our forebears

by mistake. None of this is by design. Whereas where they were building in stone and rock and those things have existed for four thousand, you know, six thousand years, our things are like temporary temples that only exist for a couple of weeks before they're cut out by the farmer. But it is interesting that when I do collate these strange reports from circle makers, they too tend to dissipate the further that I get away from the from the

key Neolithic sites. And I've spoken to Italian artists and French artists, and I've said to them, I'm looking for strange reports for my substack in this book, and Brandon, they haven't got anything at all.

too that are very like, highly detailed ones. And obviously when someone did it, you're gonna have the people to jump on the bandwagons and they go make their own and everything else. But there are instances over here where they've been found with weird traces of radiation.

confess to the whole thing. You know, there's certain questions I've got about that whole that whole episode. So we had this trope then, oh it's a couple of piss blokes coming home from the pub. Now, what you've got to consider is that when you see a really bad crop circle, okay, it's probably a new team starting out okay,

and they haven't got a clue what they're doing. And I always equated to Navana, you know, so Navana when they started, they could rehearse in the garage and not be and not be seen for six months and just make as many.

But that same team, when they get better, they'll be making circles that people think aren't made by people two years on now, when I made when I went out to do my first one or help on the first one, you then become aware of I couldn't do it the next day, but I could see how it was done. Okay, So it's this thing where you scale up. You know, I've seen I've been out in fifteen twenty man teams and they've all known what They've all known what they

were doing. Okay, Now, as far as the radiation is concerned, I've tried to diget, I've tried to get I mean, you've got all these you've got this. A lot of pseudo science there is that the research community high behind because the research community don't want you to know that it's people because it goes against the money making narrative.

It's literally a crime scene in that it's criminal damage. But also if you don't get in there before anyone else and you start seeing a load of a load of mess and footsteps and broken stems, what you're seeing there is not the work of the team. You're seeing the work of the all of the one hundred or two hundred people that have been in there before you, that have visited it in that morning.

it's been with us since our inception. Now to answer your question, we think that there is something else going on in that we're not circle makers.

that's arguably all man made. But nobody really knows where the genesis comes from or where the inspiration comes from. And the bit that I'm interested in is that the fact that people can go and make a crop circle and then somebody else has already been there and made that exact pattern or somebody as happened with me once we went to make a crop circle and it was

supposed to be swallows. And then as soon as we got to the field, because you start at ten o'clock, you know you've got between ten and three o'clock to get it done, because you've got five hours of darkness when we get when we went to the edge of the field, our crop circle leader kind of had a spasm in his car. We went bolt upright and looked straight ahead and said, no, it's spirals now. So I said, well, we can't do spirals. We've been rehearsing swallows all day,

he said, no, it's got to be spirals. And then we made us and then we made this crup circle, and then literally an identical circle was made that same night, like fourteen miles away. And that's where we start to

think why and what else is going on? And then we get dream driven events where I had a situation where I was having this recurring out of body experience dream where I was swooping over two fields in Wiltshire and there were two massive crop circles in these fields, and I was having a dream and this guy that I used to go to school with was in my dream every time. But this guy from school, I hadn't

thought of him for forty years. So I'd wake up thinking, God, it's that dream again, And by the way, what's my school friend doing there? And then one day I took a wrong turn when I was in Wheeltshair. Now, when you say wrong turn or mistake, that in our world is different, you know, to what most people sort of attributed to. It seems to be that wrong moves and

mistakes seemed to be kind of engineered. So I took this wrong turn and I found myself looking at these actual two fields that have been recurring in my dream, and I looked to my left and I saw that the name of the road that I turned down was the same name of the road that my schoolfriend lived in when I used to go around his house to play forty years ago.

we couldn't decide what to do. And then in the end I just kind of looked skywalk at it and just let my mind empty, and I thought, whichever stump goes down first, that's the circle I'm going to do, and then the next. So we finished one circle, and then the next day I got a phone call from my partner in London and she she said to me, Crush, you were busy last night. I said, yeah, we got we got one of my circles down from my dream, and she said, well, no, you didn't. You got both

down And I said, no, we didn't. We got one down, and she goes, well, you better go online. So in those days it is before Wi Fi, so you had to drive to the nearest place with with it with the internet. So I found this internet cafe and I found an aerial shot and it had my crop circle in one field and then there was this stripe. Now what that stripe was was this massive hill where it was like I couldn't see what's going on the next

field because we had this massive hill. So we had my field with my circle, then this stripe, and in the next field, which was obscured from me, my other crop circle was in there. So aily it was exactly as it occurred in my dream. And we didn't know

about that team and they didn't know about us. Now, I don't know to this day if when all this strange stuff occurs, whether it's the species field and we are somehow unconsciously, you know, in interlepathy with the other team, or if there's something else at play and we're somehow being played.

But if you go back through history, as you mentioned before, there's a lot of stories, especially through Europe, of faithfolk. And if you come over here to America and you talk to the Native Americans, they talked about the spirit realm, these spirits they had their ancestors, and there's also little legends, these other like things. I've always said, what if it's all one and the same. We all interpret it differently, but a lot of the things are based off of something that's always been here.

come back changed. They'd be missing time that they come back what they thought was what they think is two days later, but it's years later as far as the locals go. So I am with you one hundred percent. But my one thing I'd add to that is that what if this whatever it is, this Nhi or this ancient whatever it is, what if it is deliberately projecting itself in a way that we then interpret it as

something which is just beyond our capabilities. So if you look at perhaps the airship sightings from the eighteen nineties, which were UFO sightings, which I'm sure you're aware of, people were reporting those as before airships were a thing, Okay, So it just seems to be that this thing is placing itself just beyond where we are in terms of technological maturity and where we are within our religious mindsets.

And I've always been very curious about the fact that it wasn't until nineteen forty seven with the Mount Rainier

sighting and that was just two years after Hiroshima. It seems to be to me and to a lot of euthologists that we have somehow through our messing about with nuclear energy and you know, and Hiroshima, and it just seems to be that perhaps we've affected there's been ripples from our time, ripples from our plane if you like, that, have rippled into theirs, and then they have to manifest themselves as a way of sort of trying to control us.

I've always thought it was really interesting that Kenneth Arnold did not report fly I repeat, he did not report flying saucers. He reported nine crescent shaped craft which moved as a circle would do if you skipch it over water. Why Brandon, why do we start seeing flying saucers? That is, you see what I mean? It seems to mold itself based on what we expect to see. Do you understand?

he aligns with everything you just said. It is it's just something which is pre existed with us since our inception and manifests its based on where we are, and that goes for youuthology, it goes for everything which we seem to which we see as paranormal. And I see parallels between the crop circles and euthology which spread out through the whole paranormal world.

only get to meet each other once a year. So we said, let's get this crop circle down. And it was like a celebration of Mother Earth and it was going to be brilliant, and we'd all work together before and it was going to We had a social We had a couple of pints at the pub.

I promised myself last year. So we lost him. And then somebody else said, oh shit, you know I'm on that team as well, so we lost him. So we were down before and then by chance, somebody phoned up a friend and said, oh, I'm in the area, and we said, get you to asks down here we needed and basically somebody else left and said, I've got a family matches. I said, we were one down, and then

somebody else came in just by a chance. So to cut a long story short, the six people that went out were completely different to the six people that were supposed to be there in the first place. Over the course for an hour, the whole thing just changed, okay, like chess pieces. So we had six different people in there. So we were in the car in the suv, and we realized that we didn't know each other, which is crazy because you know, we were just strangers to each other.

So it was a bit of an uncomfortable silence. And then one guy said, you know, if my mom knew what we were doing tonight. She'd be absolute, she'd be so proud because she was she was a spiritualist, and she'd be really into what we're doing. And I said, well, you know, you can bring it down next year, and he went no, because she passed away last year. And then I said, my mom passed away last year, And then like Spartacus, everybody in the van said the same thing.

And then we and then like there's like shiver went through us because we realized that we both had this same loss within like twelve months. And then we realized that we were making a crop circle, which was a celebration of Mother Earth. And that's when that's where my bloods. That's where my brain starts to boil.

the decent stuff. You start to get the barley and the wheat, and that's the stuff that stays down and that's the stuff that you know, what you see the great circles. So we've got from September until kind of March to work out what we're going to do. So what you think is sometimes your idea, you go to the field and then and then and then you speak to because the crupt circle community isn't as close knit as you think.

And you just mentioned like multiple people having the same idea. Maybe it is condicted to it to where you're all making the same thing because it is like a situle, like a ritual that you're all connected to it.

my eyes and I realized what was going on. I was annoyed for ten minutes, and then I thought, hold on a minute, if you actually include or put humans in here as a component, all of the other stuff is still there.

work of our four bears. I'll say it again. We're living in a technocratic age now where we've forgotten everything, everything spiritual, and all of this knowledge that our four bears had.

when people think it's people, there's no magic instilled into them. Okay, they need to be seen as being not man made for them to have the effect on people. Now, people say to me, well, in that case, why the hell are you on the shows telling people that it is people? And that's because we've had forty years of this now, okay,

and we've had forty years of pseudoscience. And what we're saying is if you put us into the equation and you think of as actually instilling schedules into an ancient, already magical area, the mystery is far deeper than you think it is. And there are strong parallels between this and eupology as well.

certain mathematical schedules themselves sort of thing. And the singer Jazz Coleman actually went and stayed within the abdomen of the spider, within the Nasca lines, and he says he's convinced that it's ay that that they are portals. So there was strong parallels between the Nasca lines, you know, and what we're doing as well.

So I'm wondering maybe these things are always there and for some reason unknown to you guys, that you're being drawn in to do these sigils, these crop circles, because that's something that polds you to it without explaining it other than the fact that, like what made them make these big designs in Peru that no one could see unless you're in the air, and back when they made them, no one would have seen them. There shouldn't have been anything in the air. But they were compelled to do

something like that. Just same thing with like stone, like all these different megalithic things too, is what caused people to do that? And I've thought this with pyramids over the time, like why were the ancients across the whole world in China, Egypt, South America they all were building like these pyramids, Like we evolved, Yeah, we evolved to build these pyramids. Like the ancient people are building these pyramid type structures. But why was it across the whole world?

How did they all know to build a pyramid? You'd think some things would be a little different here and there for some reason that at the same timeframes or whatever, over a couple hundreds of years, they were building similar structures.

once the circles are down? They only exist for a week or two before they harvested, you know. But sometimes we are some I mean when I started doing them, I mean I'd be pulled. You know, I've got I've got a friend who has like pulled out of bed one like to do something, you know, the compulsion was

so strong. And then you get other days where you think, oh, I'm definitely going to do it tonight because I've got a team, and then you don't feel like it, or something happens and somebody has a family disaster or then and then I go out tomorrow, and then when tomorrow comes, then you feel absolutely drawn and compelled your polls and then you find out, oh, it had to be done on that date because that date is significant to the fill we put it in, you know. So so yeah,

I had a situation. I am see what, see what The stuff I'm talking about brand is very hard to sort of scientifically sort of measure, you know, because it's all based on the psyche. And I think that that whatever this phenomenon is and in upology is actually deep sitting in the human psyche. But where my interest lies is talking to I spoke to a circle maker and he said that he was in bed one night and he had this compulsion, as you say, absolutely overwhelming compulsion.

At midnight he woke up and he had this He felt as if he'd been shaken awake, and he said, I felt like there was a presence in the room, like not like when you see polter gast activity or ghost he said, but there was there was no apparition. But I just had the sense that I wasn't alone, and I had this compulsion to go and make a crop circle. It was midnight and then but I thought to myself, I don't want to. I'm slug in bed. There's nowhere i'd like I'd less want to be right

now than slugging away in the field. But this compulsion did not stop. But he said it wasn't pleasant. He said it was like when your cat wants feeding and it's not going to stop until you get up and get it food. He said it was there was nothing spiritual about it. It just he said that he had

to give in and get up. So he got the kit out of the car and he went and walked towards this field, which was ridiculous because it was like, you know, sort of one in the morning, and like, you know, he's got his boards with him because you can't rustle up a team at that time of night, you know. And and anyway, he said, he went to

do this formation. He had this very clear image as to what he wanted to do in his mind, and he said he got bored of walking, so we went to this other field which was similar to the one he was supposed to go to, and he said the second he got into the field, there was this nausea. He felt sick. He didn't throw up, but it was close to he was really ill. So and then when he come out of the field and sort of went okay,

I'll go to the other field that Nauser stopped. And then when he went to the actual field that he was summoned to, he started to make this circle. And because he was doing it by himself, he actually used tank pads to do the measuring, when normally you have to put a temp peck in a tent peg in the ground and then take the tape out of that

to measure to do your measurements. And he said, he got this circle done, and it was a little bit beyond his capability, but it was like as soon as he started to make it, he had this energy rush. And that's that's common if you look at the the literature were circle makers, people get energy rushes. And he said he got the circle done, and he pretty much sort of dropped dropped, dropped asleep on the spot at

about three am. And then the next day he woke up and there was a group of girls freaking out and they were in his circle and they were going mental. They were going to do lally in a really happy way. And he went up and walked up to them, just pretending that he'd just fallen asleep under the tree and he just got there and they said, look, look, look, he said, well, it's it's toill himself. He thought, well, it's quite a good circle, but it's not worth all the all.

what is going on? Is there telepathy between us and other people? Or is this something else at play?

thought I was. But now they sort of say to me, you know, I think I saw something, or you know, they go, can you actually explain to me a little bit more about it? And it's like people seem to be much more receptive to it now. And there's a lot more sightings and citings to contradict what I've said to you before, sightings made by people that aren't believers. I just think there's been an acceleration or a concentration within paranormal activity and people's perception towards it over only

maybe just the past ten years. Would you agree with that? I would yes, But isn't that strange in itself? Don't you think?

with crop circles because it's within the crop circle environment. Now, that could be a fault on my part because it could be that if you were to make a list of ten weird things that happened to you in the week just going about your daily business, Okay, it could be the same as ten days in the fields. It just seems to be that there are more people experience more in.

it just vanishes. Maybe our minds can only interpret what it's programmed or what they're projecting us to interpret it as like it projects whatever it wants us to think that it is, or we can only see it as a certain aspect of it.

closest it can get, you know. So again, I think it's something which interacts, interacts with the psyche, which is what Javage talks about, where it's something which is actually connecting with us on a very prime ordial ego mental level, rather than just this straight nuts some balts black and white phenomenon, you know.

manipulative aspect to it, where it presents itself. A metamorphos is based on what it thinks we want to see or expect to see.

you you'll hear a little voice from another station. You know, if you interpreted that as being our own psyche or our own our own experience, it just seems to be that sometimes we do hear other channels, you know. And he says that if the if the needle were wider, then we'd see a lot more. Unfortunately, where we are, our spectrum is so tiny of what we experience.

not in a position where we'd even understand it. And I think because the phenomenon works on this level, this real, this deep psychological level. And the thing I said about the mother crops circle, it's so advanced, and it's so advanced that when we're not yet in a position within an evolution where we understand it. But I do think that our ancestors were I think they got to the point where we are and become super super, super advanced,

and they're they're the key. You know, it's our ancestors, the pyramid builders, everything you're talking about, the Stonehenge builders, the Avery builders, that I think they were far more aware of this stuff than we are.

We've gone back to the land, and we've gone back to spirituality and that's and that's where our there's an argument to say that our four bez you know, they've got they've got that they had the technology build this stuff is because they were far more technology advanced than we are now, but they chose to apply it to the land and their spirituality.

a clean mind and a clean slate. That's probably Sometimes it's nice to go in with a place of no knowledge and you might come back come out with more knowledge than somebody that knows a little bit more than you do, If that makes sense. It's a nice place to go in, to go in clean and to go in with no preconceptions.

supposed to happen here, because then you're expecting it. So, yeah, are you going to get you want it because you don't get that experience, or are you going to manifest that experience because you think that's what's going to happen, so you manifested to happen.

at it objectively and I just a crazy situation. I mean, this is crazy. We had a situation once where a crup circle wanted to come out with me and sorry a novice, a fan wanted to come out a crop circle fan wanted to come out and make a circle. And I went out with the completely wrong intention. I went out with the intention just of ego and showing off and saying yeah, I can do it. It was a totally wrong motivation. There was no spirituality involved in it. It was really all about me and me me. It

was a terrible decision. And we went out and we made the cub circle. And he was fast. He was a young kid. He was really quick, learnt really quickly. We got the whole thing done about an hour and a half and then at the end he said to me, can I just put my little signature on it, a little flourish at the end. I said, yeah, go for it. You've earned it. You know, you've done a great job tonight. But what he did was he just put this single

flourish on the circle, which completely changed the aesthetics. So it went from being pleasant and good vibes to something really bad. It looked like a scorpion's tale or something like that. It looked really, really bad.

though I'm only going fifteen miles an hour. Anyway, I've dropped her off, and sure enough, sensor dropped her off. This bloke come careering out this driveway, crashed into my windscreen, smashed the windscreen, and I thought, I found the insurance people and they said to me, we can't get there until tomorrow. And I thought, well, I can't leave it because it's going to abandoned. And just by chance, I happened to have parked in front of this bloke who did windskin repairs.

substack dot com. That's free to join, and I update every week or two weeks with a new account from a new crop circle maker that I've spoken to or one of my own experiences. And when I do interview crop circle makers, what's happening this is very encouraging, is that I can't use a lot of the stories now because I've got so many, and the same themes are recurring again and again. So I'm getting the same stories recurring again and again from new stories, which tells me that,

you know, we're definitely onto something. And the reason why I call it it can't be people was because that when I walked into my first crop circle it was extremely complicated. I looked around and thought it people. But now I know that it is paopal, but there's something else that can't be people next to it.

no video. These are well documented, repeatable, global phenomena. So I was like, eventually, I think I'm going to be able to pick up on some patterns here, but it took a while.

But that also kind of combined with an interest in like Stone Age hunting things like that up through the Native American times, especially in North America, so I'm fairly aware of what used to be here in North America, which is huge, vast herds of bison, So that's always kind of in the back of my mind, but I hadn't really applied it to this phenomenon cattle mutilations because

it's not obviously connected. So over time, I'd just be sitting there chatting with like chat GPT and I'd be like, well, is there any correlation between where cattle mutilations and the bison used to exist? And immediately it has must have access to like bison maps and things. It's like, oh, we might have something here. And so then I get into this prolonged discussion with CHADGBT about Okay, how how well does this line up? And then I kind of

switch from that. I go over to GROC and I'm asking it, okay, let's map the cattle mutilations relative to where the bison used to be, and then I start. Luckily, GROC will show you what it's doing, so you can see what mutilation events it's pulling up what you know.

Sometimes it'll just build in data that isn't actually based on anything, so you have to catch you doing that, and you also have to exclude the which I learned eventually the cattle mutilations that don't involve exanguination because these are not substantiated cases. So this is something that a human could do, like some guy in Southwest Washington gets his cowshot or something. This is not going to be representative of the overall phenomenon of cattle mutilations. So eventually

I learned to filter out or filter for exanguination. And then when you apply that filter and you ask GROC to find the amount of over between cattle mutilations and the historic bison range, it can't find any that are outside of the bison range. And I've drove a map on my kitchen island. I've got this huge map and I put dots on it and I looked at it, and it's so precise. It'll go up to the edge of where the bison used to be and never cross.

So the Stanford map, I use that in combination with a map put out by a scientist named Sanderson in two thousand and eight. And so there's there's data from the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties, and that's great for establishing this, but some of the newest data is some of the most striking because it's an Oregon between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four, and the cattle

mutilations all involved exsanguination. They're all east of where the bison used to be, so they're all in the eastern fifty percent of Oregon which used to have bison because historically the bison didn't go past the Cascade Range onto the west coast. So all of it lines up with this pattern, even though there are cattle raised across the entire state, and if you go one state to the north into Washington, almost none of it had bison historically and there are no mutilations there. And you can do

this state by state. There's another border case down in Chihua, Mexico, where this is about the southwest extent of any known exhanguination cases, and there's a dot right there where the bison range bison range ends and the exanguination occurred. Same in Ocalla, Florida, it's right there in another edge case where the exhanguination event occurred and the bison range ended.

So it's it's over and over, it's repeatable. It goes all the way up into into Canada, where you have zero mutilations in the provinces that didn't historically have bison, so Manitoba, Quebec, Ontario, and probably British Columbia, although there's some different kind of reports on that. I want to research that more tons of cattle in these areas zero mutilations, and also very little bison territory, especially Ontario and Quebec.

Manitoba had a bit, but no mutilations there. In Saskatchewan, about half of it we think had bison, they have also had mutilations, and every single one of those mutilations happened where bison territory used to be. And you go another province over to Alberta, which had the greatest number of bison historically in some of the last remaining herds, it has the most cattle mutilations. So I mean, the

correlation is striking. Speculation is absolutely delicious, and when you get a pattern like this, but I'm not stuck on any particular explanation, but the pattern itself is remarkable. So then I took that, I wrote an essay up about it, and then I started looking globally because mutilations have occurred globally, and you start seeing a pattern merge in Argentina and Brazil and the UK, excuse me, and Australia as well

as France, you've had mutilations. What has happened in each of these places has been this cultural replacement of a hunter prey relationship that extended deep into the past. So there was this tradition of hunter and prey that was replaced by a domestic animal. When that occurs, you can predict every single time that that domesticated animal will experience

some rate of mutilation. And it seems to be dependent also on how rapidly that culture is severed and replaced, because in the UK it was a slower process where the Gales and the Celtics were displaced by the Anglo Saxons and the Normans, and they've had fewer mutilations. It was like sheep, but not as many. However, if it's rapid and extreme, you get way more like the Guanaco that were wiped out drastically reduced in southern Argentina as

recently as last year. Lots of cattle mutilations in that area because that's the species that was brought in by the Spanish to replace the Guanaco. And there's a lot more details involved here. There was an outlier case in southern Brazil that I was having difficulty fitting into this model of deep historic hunter prey relationship gets severed, replaced by domesticated animal, domesticated animal gets mutilated because there was a human that was exanguinated in nineteen eighty eight and

southern Brazil. So I started, I was like, wonder, how do I fit this into the theory. Well, I end up learning that the two p people which is spelled Tupi, were cannibals and they would hunt other tribes. Of these of two P people, they would they would hunt each other and bring them in as captives then eventually cannibalize them. When the Portuguese arrived, they ended up getting cannibalized as well by these indigenous tries. And so perhaps to this phenomenon,

the Portuguese people represented the domesticated livestock. So that might be how this fits in, because they've also had cattle and sheep mutilations in that same area. So it's the fact that every time mutilations occur involving exanguination. That's the key. You can't just look up mutilations in general. It has to involve this bloodless aspect because that's so it just

cannot be done. It's the most impossible thing about these although these events have this kind of overarching impossibility about them, and I think that's worth actually getting into a little bit more because the events themselves, I think have been grossly misinterpreted. I think it's clearly like an artistic display, it's meant to shock, it's meant to be noticed, it's

meant to be remembered, and that explains the characteristics. So the exclusion of coyotes and and bugs and things like that, that's to make sure the artwork, if you want to call it that, is not disturbed. That's that's to make sure that everything that's been done there is not messed up. There's no there's no gray areas about what's going on here. The how it's been produced is maintained for the visual Ranchers have reported feeling the need to go out and

see these exanguinated cattle. They feel like strangely compelled to go out and see them, and they can't explain it. So it's it's literally pulling. Whatever's doing this is pulling randers outside to find and then they have lights actually guiding them in the sky. They are being conjured somehow, ranchers report seeing lights. These lights are basically like lures saying here, this is this is why I want you to come see this, and this is uh yeah, so

these are these are the patterns I've noticed. It's an extremely kind of dark phenomenon. But the fact that it's so predictable and tied to these historical events where a hunter prey relationship is severed and replaced by domestic livestock is fascinating to me. Because it's so predictable, there's some situations where you might think, well, why didn't it happen in maybe New Zealand where the Miori were displaced and colonized. The one possibility there is that they didn't have a

set cultural animal that they were. They kept switching kind of between praise species. That's one possibility, So it didn't kind of have this ecological resonance over time. It's one explanation. Who knows. I mean, the fact that this pattern is largely consistent across the entire globe is I think striking to me. And just the distribution of mutilations in North America, how it follows the historic bison territory is remarkable, and

other theories just don't work for this. If you go through the list of different theories like aliens et cetera, I don't there's no reason why aliens would follow these historic areas where hunting was occurringsistently for this long. There's no motivation there. Why would they be following that? Why

wouldn't they go just elsewhere and do whatever? Not to mention the fact that it's clearly performative, the way the skin is removed from around the teeth creates this absolute just vile like facial expression on the victim, whether it's human or a cattle or a horse in France, which

which occurs in France. Yeah, So these deeply historic relationships between humans and their prey species, whether it's the Celtics that are hunting the oric and the red deer, or the Aborigines and the wallaby, the emu and the kangaroo, whatever it is, If there's deep time associated with that hunter prey relationship and it gets severed rapidly and replaced by a domesticated species, that domesticated species gets targeted by this mutilating phenomenon, whatever it might be, I lean toward

it more of a spiritual than a corporeal entity, just because the amount of perfection an undetected operation is just inexplicable given something with human limitations. It couldn't it could not be accomplished, not for sixty seventy years, and however long this phenomenon has been operating, which might actually extend deep into history as well. And that's so, that's about as far as I've taken it. I keep researching it and wondering about it's you know, where might we predict

that it would happen next? Where might we see this actually in history books? Maybe with the Aztecs, if they're doing sacrifices, maybe this is because they saw mutilated animals and they thought maybe this was a god telling them to that this is what it wanted, and so that was their reaction, even though it's not what the god wanted. What the god wanted was nature to be operating in the more natural hunter prey relationship, and they were maybe

causing too much ecological disruption. Who knows, It's just I think I think this is about as close as I've gotten to fully understanding it.

there and did this. Someone had to do know, like they had to know what they were doing to try and come out and do this. It's just not something that someone goes out there and does. Now, with your research and from what you're talking about, what do you where do you think all this stuff is good? Like what is the purpose of this? You have any idea like where the blood goes, what they're using it for, what they're doing the mutilations for other You said something

about artwork showing it off. But it also brings up the question of who and what is actually doing this. I know that's the question everyone wants to ask. They think it's aliens. I think it's that in your opinion, Like what do you think all this is about?

domesticated livestock. So we have this impersonal, cold industrial relationship with livestock, and then it mirrors that back to us by exanguinating them by perfectly carving them up with symmetrical like eye sockets and disemboweling and leaving no trace. It's cold, it's calculated, it's impersonal, and I think it's also trying

to convince us that this is not being done. By the fact that anybody even entertains the possibility that's being done by people means I haven't seen these because ranchers don't talk like that. Ranchers don't come away saying, you know,

who was in my field? They don't say that. Maybe the FBI in nineteen seventy nine, you know, starts talking about that kind of thing, but the FBI can't talk about things in the spiritual realm having these effects that they lose their jobs or it's just not something that's not a language they can use. So I'm really open to anything that could behave perfectly. And I mean I have a history of being a pretty much strict materialist into science. I was the kid in high school that's

arguing with everybody that there's no God. But as time has gone on and I've accumulated experiences, I've had so many weird things happen, ghosts and synchronicities and sleep paralysis, et cetera, that there's just I don't think there's any limit to what could possibly happen. One of my favorite quotes about reality is it's not just stranger than we think it is, it's stranger than we can think it is.

So I think it's important to remain open to any possibilities, especially when the evidence repeats over and over and over again with these impossible events, like you said, the exanguination, we're not finding drops of blood anywhere. They might try to say in nineteen seventy nine, in an Arkansas study that the ground can absorb what eight to ten gallons

of blood. That's absurd, It's ridiculous. Any brancher knows what a dead cow that's been in a field for a while looks like, and they are shocked for a reason when they find these sanguine animals. It doesn't look like an animal that has been naturally rotting in a field. It's it's a completely different phenomenon. You have to trust the ranchers and their experience with these with these systems,

they're the ones who know. And they're also not that they're not motivated to like make up a story to protect their no pun intended to protect their hide. So if I'm if I'm speculating wildly, I mean at first I was almost I was like calling it the phantom because like it's like a phantom presence that's doing this. But I think it's it's like more of a message from the great beyond the even like the realm of the gods. It's a message of look what you've done

in nature. I'm going to show you how you treat nature by treating your replacement species with absolute disrespect. Because they this entity feels disrespected. It feels that the land has been totally like destroyed basically from what it was supposed to how it was supposed to operate. And I know it sounds ridiculous, we've tainted it.

they see aliens. Some people get spiritual on it and call them religious icon like demons or something like that, or I don't know what they are. I just feel like almost everything that we encounter is probably connected somehow, and I don't know how to determine where they're from or what they are other than I just feel like all this stuff is somehow connected.

I'd get these really weird coincidences. The first was I pulled up like I was getting close to a gas station and go like get tea or something, and this van pulls in front of me and the back of it says, you're building the future. We're here to help. And I was like, okay, well this seems like a message.

But another day passes and I and I don't know where any of these discoveries are going to go, and a van pulls up in front of me, and because I've been thinking I'm just gonna I'm gonna quit, I'm not even gonna talk about this stuff any more, this van pulls up in front of me and says no excuses, and I was like, jeez, Louise. And then I finally post a little video on my YouTube channel, and I go walking to the gas station again to get tea, and I hear a lady tell her friend on the porch.

You figured it out, yay, But they're just talking to each other. But I'm like, you're gonna say that right when I walk past after I I might have just stumbled upon this pattern that might have some explanatory powers. The synchronosity is sort of accumulating. You just feel like something's going on. And I actually wrote an essay before any

of this happened. There's like twenty five hundred words about all the synchronicities I've ever had, and it's trying to explain them because I try to pick them apart from both sides of just inevitability or or some sort of actual communication from an intelligence, because they always they seem like that, they seem like they're they're communication, And I think cattle mutilations are the sign of an active intelligence.

I don't think I've thought about the possibility that it's like a spasm of nature, and when nature's violated, it's kind of spasms in this way, and it's involuntary, but the specificity and the perfection involved, and like the Bison range mapping, I mean that the way it occurs is deeply cautious, like it knows what it's doing. Whatever it is, and it doesn't make mistakes, and then it makes sure

what it's done is seen. So I think there's evidence of consciousness behind it, but I don't think it's corporeal or even alien.

loocid dreaming. They've had them on their heads, they've have on their back, on their wrist, and the person that I talked to about it, they seem like they're done intelligently, like it's like something that's trying to communicate and wants you to know. And when you're talking about the cattle mutilations, it reminds me of that, like something's trying to communicate. I'm not saying they're connected, but at the same time,

I think everything's connected one way or the other. So is this something out there trying to show itself to us? People talk like with the crop circles. Now most people think crop circles are made by humans. I think they mostly probably are, but what about the ones that maybe aren't. Is something trying to communicate?

week or so. So I've had the exact say, it's tiny, but the fact that I noticed it means I'm like, I don't think I would have gone without noticing it in the past since it's short season, But so I have I've got a red dot, So I got the same thing going on, And yeah, it's it's interesting when you when you think about these things as communications, because I even puzzled over the fact that if it is trying to tell us something, could it be like clearer,

could it be more obvious, like spell it out, like just write it in words, or have somebody have a vision. And then there's there's different kind of ways of thinking around that. Why isn't it a more obvious communication from this entity, and I don't know. It's almost like it needs us to figure things out for ourselves so that the solution is more meaningful and has more staying power. And if it just tells us things, I mean, people probably just have mass area or they wouldn't even be believed.

So it has to lay clues and then it gets figured out, and then the impact could be could be known as opposed to somebody who's like, well, you know, the gods were talking to me last night, and you know I couldn't start the podcast that way, So yeah, it could be that that's how it goes. But this is a mysterious realm, just kind of like the rest of reality, so it's unknown, but it does seem to

be a communication, and it's not a pleasant one. It seems to be upset with something that's happened in that space to upset the natural balance, and it's showing a certain measure of wrath and perfection. I don't necessarily like think it's a specific like I don't. I'm not going to say it's God or I'm not going to say it's a specific thing. I'd hesitate to put a label

on it. But I was just talking to a friend today and the characteristics of cattle mutilations actually line up perfectly with Artemis, the Greek god of the goddess of the hunt, the perfectionism, the wrath, the interest in the hunt itself, so she would have motive. Not saying that's

where I'm leaning. I'm really just having fun with speculation, but the fact that it lines up so perfectly is interesting and interesting is about as far as I can go with this, because the patterns are there and I can substantiate those, and then the speculation about what's doing it is I think always going to elude me. But it's fun to think about.

I went back to the zoo. I live in Omaha, and the zoo here's great, and I had a job there doing overnight tours. And I had a history of just quitting every job. I'd start a job, I'd quit it because eventually I just didn't want to be controlled by it, even if I liked it. And I liked the overnight tour job at the zoo was fun, and

so I tried to go get the job back. And I was leaving the zoo from trying to get the job back, and I saw a great cavalier drive by on the left and I was like, okay, interesting, and then a gray trash can rolls into the street on the right and I had to avoid it. I was like, weird, the great cavalier gets my attention, and then a great trash can rolls in from the opposite side of the street,

so I was like, okay, well, maybe it's nothing. A few cars later, another gray cavalier drives by on the left, side of the street, and for some reason, I just knew the pattern wasn't done. So I went over. I visited my mom's house and I told her I'm in the midst of some sort of interesting pattern here. And if we go, if we take the dogs for a walk, we will see a great cavalier. And I guarantee you

we'll see great cavalier. It's going to happen. The first car we see on the walk was a great Cavalier and that just then I had to kind of just shift my whole idea, my paradigm about how I thought reality operated, because that seemed so clear, and I knew that it was coming like I knew, And there's so many there's so many other things. The sleep paralysis events were notable. They only happened really in this kind of tumultuous part of my life was partying, going crazy, doing

all this stuff. So again, the story involves my mom's house, which has a history of kind of some a couple families where it was kind of spooky. The first family, they were Christian scientists that had a kid pass away because they wouldn't give him medicine and he was involved in like a fall et cetera. And then the second family, there's a psychologist who would have his patients meet at the back door and they take them to the basement

for the for whatever treatments they were having. And this house was built in nineteen twenty eight, so the stage is set for this house to have all sorts of activity, not to mention the fact that my dad passed away here with als in twenty thirteen. So anyway, the first time I had sleep proalysis in the basement, I was laying on my back and I felt this weight crawl up my feet, and you know, you're conscious. You think

your eyes are open. I think some studies have shown that your eyes aren't actually open, but you definitely feel like you're seeing the room and you can't move. And this thing was crawling up my legs into eventually sitting on my chest like the famous painting about sleep prolyss is the name of it. Escapes me now, So I get curious about these things. So I go back to the basement and I lay down on my right side.

I was like, wellt's see if this will happen if I'm not laying on my back, because I think this might be associated with that this thing comes back, whatever it is crawls up my left side and his is in my ear, and I just tried to maintain my composure. I was like, not real, not real, not paying attention to you, whatever, And so I thought. I left the basement that day thinking I won. You know, this is, I got it cooked. I mean, this is it's not going to mess with me. I'm too brave and I'm

too cool. So another time, I'm upstairs at the same house and I fall asleep on the couch on my I think it was left side this time, maybe right side, but it was on my side because it's a couch. And I wake up and frozen again, and there's a tornado of black smoke by this grandfather clock by the front door. Tornado of black smoke, and it sounds like a freight train, and all I can do is shift my eyes and look at it. I'm just like what

is this and just terrified. And then in a flash, it's next to me, and it sounds like the universe is like fragmenting. It's the loudest thing I can imagine. And then you eventually snap out of it, and I'm like, Okay, how do I like the rest of the day just seems spooky. But then I finally start getting my act together.

I stop partying this and that, and I have one final sleep paralysis where I wake up I'm frozen, but there's no terror, and this being, it looks like it's made of black and blue, dark kind of slightly shimmering pixels, walks by my bed and all I can do is look at it, and this thing smiles at me. It looks like a shadow of pixels, and then it's gone,

and I've never had sleep paralysis again since then. So those events, while they have some sort of like precedent in the literature psychological stuff, some people wouldn't say that's not paranormal. When you've had it happen, it doesn't seem super normal. It's like the nexus, the combination, the overlap between normal and like tangibly paranormal. So there was that.

I mean, the list is long of anecdotes. I heard my dad's voice clearly in my left ear once when I was in kind of this hypnogogic state of like almost falling asleep. And then my mom came upstairs after I'd heard him, say get ready to talk, and then she said did you say something from downstairs? So she had heard something. I don't know if I think she said it sounded like me. I wasn't talking. I'd heard my dad clear as day in my left ear, his voice after he had passed away, say get ready to talk,

no doubt. And then tons of psychic stuff like there was a time in the same house, and I've had things elsewhere, but this is the same house from nineteen twenty eight. That's what it was made. I was in the kid and I heard a woman laugh, and for whatever reason, I really wanted to know, Okay, where did that come from? I knew it wasn't my sister or my mom. I was like, where was that? So I was like, rewind the TV. Maybe it was Hillary Clinton, maybe it was something. It was something on TV. Nope,

we played the TV. It wasn't that. And eventually my sister comes in from outside, sits down, plays a Snapchat video on her phone and it's the same laugh that I had heard in the kitchen. So all of these events, the continued synchronicities, the things lining up. Just the other day, Just the other day, I was at Walmart and I was getting a white Monster, which are highly addictive. I love them, but I gotta stop. I knew when I put it on the conveyor belt at Walmart it was

going to fall over. There was no doubt.

reaction that eventually knocks over the monster can. And I was like, Okay, well, I guess I just have to live with these kind of things because they it just happens to me whatever. I think these are probably more common than a lot of people might say, because they don't get discussed. They're so strange people. They fear the backlash. Just like the same reason the FBI wasn't going to say, we think this might be mother nature itself, you know,

sanguinating cows. They're going to say it's coyotes or whatever, because they just can't talk like that when I was actually a science teacher for a while. Not anymore. I'm doing other things. But I started a club for kids. I call it Paranormal Society, and we would get together and would have a week where we talked about dreams or lucid dreams. We'd have a week when we talk about ghosts, or we'd have a holiday party around Christmas time where we watch the X Files episode with Christmas

when they're there in the Haunted House. And I was surprised by how many kids had never had eggnog before. But yeah, I just think things like that. It brings these experiences to the four where like otherwise, kids wouldn't feel like they could even talk about this stuff, because I think a lot of people have these events, but they just don't feel like they can talk about them. It's just too strange, or they just discount them, they

forget about them. But I think it's some of the coolest stuff that happens to anybody because it kind of makes you finally believe that maybe reality like magic is possible. You don't it's not all just simple physics or what you would assume. It's just it absolutely erases boredom because now reality is without bounds, anything could happen. So that's that's why I developed an interest in all this stuff. And now my bookshelves are full of paranormal books, some

psychic photography. I've got the dousing riots. I do taro. If I'm just when I'm feeling it, I'll do something like pull a card or something. But then I'm also reading about physics and mathematics and stuff, so I keep it. I'm always I would say my philosophy in general is

that I'm an observationalist. I just want to see what nature can do, what does it do, and then go from there, as opposed to assuming what nature's limitations are and then operating that way, which unfortunately seems like what a lot of science is based on. Where we start with this assumption, we limit nature, we put it into a box, and then we just search within that box.

But it's we don't even have a good explanation for why reality exists at all, So stop putting limitations on it and be open to open to experiencing might be surprised what happens. Yeah, and the next thing I wanted to study is imaginary friends. Like a lot of kids grow up and they have imaginary friends, and I was since I substitute teach, I was going to start like conducting interviews, probably with like sixth grade and older, because

it just keeps things simple. But ask them if they remember having an imaginary friend, did they did they learn anything, did it talk? Do they remember what it looked like? Is there some common ground where it's a certain type of individual that people remember. I think my niece had an imaginary friend that was an old man, and we'd wonder was it my dad? Is my dad there with her?

We don't know, but it's interesting all of these little phenomena that occur, and including aliens, even though I don't think aliens are or maybe what's happening with cattle mutilations, it's absolutely a phenomenon that's that's worth exploring. I just I really haven't had my alien experience yet. I don't think so. Synchronicity's ghosts, precognitive stuff, all the accounts of cattle mutilations. That's kind of where I focus now, But who knows what the future holds.

it because there's still that stigma out there. You talk about certain things, people think you're crazy. And I know some people, you know what, maybe they are. I'm not going to go out and say that some people aren't crazy, because obviously there's going to be somebody out there that kind of is. But yeah, not everyone is crazy. Like people experience something, they're seeing something, they're having these experiences. Sometimes you just need a place to talk about.

It doesn't fit with their own experience of reality as human living beings, because that's already so far, like it's so much more majestic and incredible than what they're they're learning. It's they're being subdued, so they get it. Yeah, I don't think school is great at h creating inspiration, and it's probably not designed to do that generally, which is

why I'm not part of it anymore. So I substitute is pretty much just enough to have enough money to write, and so I was like writing books, but you put them on Kindle, nobody's, nobody finds those. So then I start writing articles for journals and my writing is you could probably imagine this is also a little bit too edgy, because you get into sleep paralysis and I could get into another story about house dreams. So there was there was a time when I was also having sleep paralysis events.

I would have these dreams that were scarier than sleep paralysis, dreams that transcended that fear by a factor of one hundred, like no problem and nothing in the dream itself. If you were to see it. If you were to step into the dream and see what I was saying, you'd like, why is this scary? But it was just unbridled fear. And it involved the house and I'd get I'd be in the house and there'd always be one room and I knew it was somewhere, and I'd get close to

it and the fear would start to kick in. And it's a fear like I cannot explain, like the most afraid you've ever been watching a movie or whatever. For me is it was. It's beyond like for me, I've never felt anything like it. I'd get goosebumps just talking about it. So in this house, I'd get to the room and I'm like, I'm not going in there. The fear would be too much. But one time I was like, I gotta go in. And I opened the room and it's like high windows on either side. The room is

longer than it is wide. Really kind of antique furniture, slightly dusty antiques in glass cases. Just seems harmless. But the amount of fear from this room that I would

feel was just shocking. It would it would sit with me the whole next day, and I did not how to interpret it, so I'd like I'm diving into like Carl Jung's writing about archetypes, and apparently the symbol is that the dream is the entire psyche, my unconscious, my ego, et cetera, the whole thing, and then the room is how my unconscious thinks about me that I'm I've become terrifying to it. So it's like showing me a mirror of how it feels about me, which is kind of

a parallel to what cattle mutilations might be. It might be like, here, this is what you are doing, this is what this is. You're coldly treating these animals in this disrespectful way, you're disrespecting the history of the land, et cetera. It's kind of there might be a parallel there, but anyway, it's symbolic communication, and eventually, you know, I get my act together, the dreams disappear. I haven't dreamt about a house with a room in it since I

started living a better life. But about a year or two when I got my act together, I had a Tinder date with someone and she tells me she's having house dreams, and I was like, oh, okay, So I said, you are in danger, something going on in your life you have to fix. And I've made sure she knew I was serious. I remember her name. I will absolutely not say your name. The date ends. We just kind of go our separate ways, and I think a friend

her on Facebook or something. We don't really talk anymore, but I see her pictures and this is I mean, this is sad. But over time she disintegrated. She like slowly wilted away. I don't know what the problem was, but she passed away. And I wish I could go back to that date and really, like, I don't know, say it ten times instead of once, that you are in danger. I have to fix this or maybe reach out more for a second date. But the house dream

seems to be an archetypal communication of deep danger. It seems to be, and it seems to be almost universal. I even had another gal from a dating app tell me that she was because I asked her, because I could tell her life was just in disarray. She was always drunk when we would talk, always smoking, always just just like in between jobs, like nothing seemed to be set up for. And I said, do you happen to be dreaming about a house with a room in it

and maybe there's something wrong with this room. And she's like, yeah, I dream about a house in the basement is all messy, and I don't go down there. I can't even go down into the basement. In my dream. I said, you have to fix whatever, you have to fix your life because you're you're in danger. But you tell most people that, and if especially if you don't know them, even if you do know them, they're gonna get They're going to defend themselves. They're not going to take that advice because

you've just told yeah, yeah, so could you hear me there? Sorry, my thumb was over the thing.

dream after dream, like five nights straight in October. It was in the fall, and they were all pre cognitive. The next day it would be validated. I had a dream that one of my students was going to start acting up, and she was normally great. Very next day she's like cussing, she won't stop yelling. I was okay. Then I had another dream that a student that I'd never talked to was going to visit me in my room. The next day he comes by and we have a chat,

even though we had never talked before. Then I have a dream about the football team winning their football game and they were going to score twenty points. And I tell that I was student teaching. I told the guy I was teaching under it was training me the guiding teacher, about this dream. He was the offensive coordinator. So on the van, he tells the team about this dream I had that they won. So yeah, mister Waterman, he he

had a dream that you guys won the game. He didn't tell him the score that I saw, I didn't. I don't know. I didn't know the opponent's score. I thought it had zero, and it's either zero or ten, but I dreamt twenty for the winning score. So I'm sitting there watching their game on a laptop and they had just scored their third touchdown, so they had twenty points and I was like, well, if my dream's right, he's got to miss this extra point kick. And it sailed.

It sailed wise, so I was like, well, there you go. I don't know what to make of these things. It seems to be like access to something I shouldn't have access to, but I don't think it's that rare across people. And even like the government with the Stargate program, they've used people's abilities to access information that we don't really know how they gain access to it. But the government's

been interested in this for a long time. Stanford had a lab called I think it was SRI where And I could be totally wrong about that, but I think they had it for decades where they studied psychic phenomena. And you don't do something for decades if it's baseless. So and I know, like there's a lot of like law enforcement that uses psychics to help them and things, so I don't think it's nothing. I've also had experiences with telepathy. I was working at a bookstore and they

were the gal that ran that bookstore. She would practice telepathy with her mom. I think they would hold up one of three shapes and then the other would try to figure out what was the one of the three shapes they were looking at. And one day I couldn't remember how to pronounce her name, so I was thinking between the two pronunciations, and she just looks up and says it. She says it's pronounced, and I won't say

her name, and as if she knew. And the next day I was there at the bookstore and I was like, did you like know what I was wondering about with your name? And she's like, some things just don't need to be discussed, like she just thought that was a rabbit hole we didn't need to go down. I was like,

that's fine. I've even I've had times in relations like long term relationships with like a girlfriend, where I thought the phrase I love you in my head and she'd respond I love you, and then I'd be like, I actually didn't say that out loud, and you know, you just carry on. It's like, okay, Well, there's things that the things in this reality we don't totally understand, and I mean I like them. They don't they don't really

scare me. They almost comfort me because it's that there's always more than meetsci and things never get boring that way, because it's like anything is possible, and also no harm, no foul, right, like nothing bad happened. So yeah, I wish I could just I actually had a dream the other day about ninety thousand. I was like, well, at least for sure it was ninety and a bunch of zeros.

And then the next day I got on Instagram and the was it the power Ball I think it was what was called or the Mega Millions was ninety million dollars and I was like scrambling to buy a ticket. I was like, this might be it, But then I had downloaded an app or something. I was like, I don't want to give this app my credit card info. So I might have missed my chance. But that's fine because that'll keep me motivated to study cows and substituteach,

you know, write and stuff. Gotta stay hungry. I can't be winning all this money'd be ridiculous.

is just I mean, it's so cool. It's the perfect mystery, especially the cow stuff, because you can understand just enough of it to feel like you're making progress, but you can't ever get all of it to feel like you got it wrapped up. So it's uh, yeah, I'll probably be wondering about it for a long time. But yeah, those two, those two sites that would be it. Sound Science on YouTube and then Ganymede Graham on Instagram.

especially since it's the summer and I'm not teaching. Not that this is something I'm probably gonna bring up at school, although there might be some high schoolers, like the certain type of dudes that might, you know, I could talk to them about it, But I just really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you about this, and uh, yeah, thank you very much.

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