Meta Mysteries| “Why” Keeps You Waiting— “How” Sets You Free

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Find Welcome to Mada Mysteries, where you don't know what.

You don't know.

My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean, and we do have an announcement that I'm actually telling you for the first time too shock. So a lot of people have been wondering why is Meta Mysteries not uploading to the Meta Mysteries podcast, and and that's because we did make the switch and we decided to meld in with the Cult of Conspiracy podcast.

That's awesome. That actually makes me very happy, man. I just want everyone to be able to find the show, you know where if you look, that's where're gonna be. We're on YouTube as well, so like everywhere you look, you're gonna be able to find MENI Mysteries and so everybody.

We're happy everywhere. Yeah, we're on also TikTok, also Instagram. We're trying to just be as many places as we possibly can to try and get as many eyes on this kind of information as possible, because we do really believe that we're like I mean, maybe maybe not as much as some kind of savior of any kind of said religion, but we we really do feel like we're helping a lot of people with some of this information.

Really, and so.

What we like to kind of represent is just an all encompassing kind of thing. Maybe maybe this myth or this religion or this so and so doesn't have the answers, Well maybe you might find it somewhere else. And you're not you know, you're not blaspheming, You're not doing wrong by looking up information. You're just you're just trying to understand the nature of this reality, Okay, and we I don't think that anybody should be shamed for that at all.

Sticker, Dude, I love it. I could not have said it better man. And you know, even for like people like myself, Man, I didn't grow up with a particular religion or a structured belief system. And so you know, like you said, man, the answers are out there, and I think it is spread across all belief systems and what have you. Man, and so I just want to explore all of it.

Hell yeah, Well, if you've been with us long enough, you know that we have talked a little bit about all of the things that we're going to talk to talk about today. However, I do want to say that this will be an absolute turning point of the show today. This episode is going to be monumental. It is going to be It's going to be an absolute game changer, like you thought. Maybe I don't know whoever's favorite episode was prior to this. I promise you this episode is

You know?

And then what happened was is that I decided to do a little bit of research, and turns out there's an entire rabbit hole on this very topic.

Of course there is, all right, yeah, all right, I'm ready, so, uh, put your big boy pants on. I don't even jump in the studio without him anymore. I know better. You know, there was that one time, you know, but not again. Not unprepared, not up in here. All right, So enough of the fluff. We're gonna get to the actual meat and potatoes of this. Why is it going to be so awesome? Because we're going to answer the age old question. See, so many people they wonder why, why this? Why that?

They want some kind of divine answer all the time? What does God say about this? What did Jesus say about this? What did Buddhas say about this? What did name your prophet or your savior? What do they have to say about this? Why?

You just want to know why? Yep?

Whenever the actual question should be how?

Okay, that changes and it's I feel like you can always ask why, no matter what, you can always keep pushing that. But but why, you know? And so I like this, I'm gonna see whatere this is going? Man?

So the we're actually gonna I've already dude, I've already thought of the title of this episode and everything. I have been obsessed with this information. Okay, So what we're gonna call this one is people were so obsessed with why that they never thought to think how?

All right it?

Okay, all right? So the obsession with why. So Humanity has always been obsessed with why, Why are we here? Why do we do bad things? Why would a good why would a god allow suffering? These are the questions that echo through temples, churches, and philosophy halls. But tonight we turned the mirror around. You don't ask why a TV works, why why your car works, why trees grow, or why a dog barks? But you uh uh, but you can learn how they work. So instead of why,

So what if so?

What if God's angels, inspirits weren't weren't things to worship, but energies to embody.

M wow, Okay, I'm liking this, dude, I'm liking it. Yeah boy. All right.

So number one and this is something that we have been trying to harp on till the cows come home, and that is that mythology wasn't meant to be taken literally. Okay, people get so caught up. They get so caught up and this is literally this, and this is literally that, and well, hey, you just got to look for that sign and it's gonna be the end times, you know, like, stop taking everything so damn literally. I promise you it actually does way less for you if you don't take it literally, right.

Oh yeah, yeah, so sure, I feel like it doesn't give you any kind of answer at all to your current situation, you.

Know, absolutely not. So myth as a metaphor is how we should be looking at these, not history. Now, some of them might actually be steeped in some kind of history, which is why it's so damn confusing in the first place, right because oh, well, you can clearly see the two three, three and a half four thousand years ago there was a world flood.

Uh did you hear?

They just found Noah's ark Yep, did you like It's like all these things that point to the these these literal structures, these literal places, and that it's sad that people take that little bit of information and just say, say, I told you it was literal. I told you you were supposed to be taking it literal. No, absolutely not,

Maybe exactly right.

Yeah, okay, so myth as a metaphor not history. I'm sorry.

I'm a little ampt up right now. I know I love it.

So Greek, Norse, Hindu, and Egyptian. These pantheons weren't just ancient fairy tales. They were user manuals for consciousness. Zeus wasn't a lightning hurling tyrant. He symbolized divine willpower and mastery over chaos. Odin wasn't just a war god. He sacrificed his eye for inner sight, which is a metaphor for spiritual awakening. Shiva dissolves illusion to make way for truth. Isis represents the hidden mystical feminine within all of us.

I'm with you, man, I'm with you. Same with the uh, the emerald tablets and the inky and in lil and you can go on and on. You know, there's a lot of symbolism and a lot of things that you can garner from from that, but but not necessarily like did it really happen? Though it's like no, I don't think so. But here's the thing. It doesn't matter if it really did or not. That's that's the whole point

If these things like, if if Odin actually existed at one point in life, what does what impact does that have on you?

Right now? I think you're right. Yeah, I don't think it makes too much of a difference.

I guess so it makes I don't know. I'm just just follow me on this journey. I promise you it's all going to make a little bit more sense all right here.

No, I know you know that.

I was just trying for the listeners that think that I might just sound like I'm full. So anyway, let's continue. So, Biblical archetypes are also inner forces. This is why, this.

Is why all of them work.

This is why every single one of them work. Because the Biblical and not even just Biblical, all of the archetypes. I don't care if you worship the or I don't care if you worship Loki. I don't care if you worship the fucking flying spaghetti monster. Really doesn't matter. Okay, it will work if you embody the energy of said archetype.

That's how it works. And it's a it's a structure, dude. It's something that you can live your life by. And if you know wholeheartedly that you are doing that, then then you're good. You know, you got nothing to worry about.

So that's how it works. Forget why it works. Don't ask why, because then that's how wars start. That's how people divide. That is how you know what I mean, Like, ask how it works? Like nobody ever got mad about discovering how milk has calcium in it?

Right?

But why would you ask why does milk have calcium in it?

Right?

Because the divine mother cow from from sacred Jupiter has blessed us with her holy milk.

I this one. Why?

Why why do you need to know that? You don't need to know it just you just need to know how it works, Okay. And so anyway, this is what I was talking about. Before I even go any farther. What I was talking about was it was I was just driving the other day and I was just like, man,

I just want to know how, Okay, that's it.

So as I received that, I was like, let me sit with this for a couple of days because I feel like there's somewhere I can take this, okay.

And then the insane level.

Of research that I did for this show that deep Dives the rabbit Hole. I mean I'm talking about, like my consciousness was raised in researching this show. Bro on no shit, bro, Like this is this is that level kind of stuff, because it just sometimes you read some information and it unlocks something in your mind, you know. And as a matter of fact, you were kind of talking a little bit about that before the show. That's something just unlocked in your mind today, right.

Okay, yeah, that was today. I don't know if you want me to go into it, but basically, I I was talking to one of my coworkers, you know, and and and he's of the the Catholic faith, you know, and the way that he was explaining to me, not necessarily all of his experiences, but just his unbinding faith, you know, and and and what he believes in and how happy he is in the conviction and the sincerity

In the Catholic and the Catholics pray to all the saints and everything in the christ.

Sat and the pope and the bishops, and you know, there's this sense of hierarchy of of power and authority. Yes, that's rather and so there's that, and then the other side is like, well, you know in the Bible, you know, there's there's none of that, there's no you don't have this authority to to forgive someone's sins. And you know,

Yeah, you know, it feels good not to have to fight with somebody because of their beliefs, right.

And we we should all just be like happy that another person found that thing that gives them this almost supernatural feeling of being connected to divine, you know, because that's ultimately what all of them are trying to do. Dude.

And you know what, the Jews feel the same exact way.

The is the what is it?

The Muslims feel the same exact way. You know, like every single religion feels like they have whatever whatever kind of experience they've had, is it proves that their religion is the right one, or in more correct terms, it's the right one for them.

Okay, yeah, and it was bad. Well, no, I was just gonna say that, you know, everybody has their own individual thing going for them, and I kind of forgot where I was gonna go with that, But go ahead and then I'll pick back up.

No, it's all right. I mean I was just gonna say, you know, that's that's really the beauty behind the coexists bumper sticker is that the people and some people actually get really really pissed off at people that have those bumper stickers, like I can't relieve this god.

Damn hippie probably smoking reefer, you.

Know what I mean.

Like it's just one of those kind of things. And it's like, man, you know, like what a disc gruntled life you must be living that in order for you to believe what you believe, you need everybody else to believe it to right.

And And that was another thing that I that I was talking to to my coworker about and I was like, cause, I guess in my mind I had this this understanding that people that were religious or let's say Christian, right, they might look at us, and I don't know, I just had this feeling like they would look at us and go like, oh I feel sorry for them, or or and maybe they do, you know, maybe something do, but a lot of them or you know, because we're going to hell or because I don't believe in what

That's it's it, and that's and that's the thing is that is that people have a hard time believing that there's more than one truth when an actuality there really is only one truth that's right, you know what I mean, Like the deep, actual truth of all of this is not found in a book. But you know what's funny about that. And I thought about this too, because there

We're probably all wrong when it comes to what it really is you know what I mean.

I mean, yeah, but I would say that there's and that's what we're going to get to, is that there is a truth that at the very bottom and it's not that difficult, but it's it's I'll say it like this. It's simple, but it ain't easy, okay. And I just want to throw this out there too. I know that some people probably listen to the show, maybe you're Christian or something that you listen to the show and you think, oh my god, all these guys do is they just

Bit for what's around us. Yeah, it's what's around us. And those are the people that we have conversations with and we hear their ideas or beliefs and we kind of just exchange back and forth. And yeah, man, it's been pretty interesting being able to have that actually, like just recently for me.

Oh yeah, yeah, it's nice.

It is.

It is pretty cool. But all right, let's get back to it. And speaking of the Bible, we're going to get into Biblical archetypes are also inner forces. So Moses represents the part of us that leads are inner people, our thoughts, our emotions, our fears out of slavery and into clarity. Think about it. Moses was lost in the desert for I think like forty fucking years or some

That's not how any of this works, as they say, you know.

And so if you look at Moses and you and you treat it for the the meaning of the story, what can you pull from this story? Maybe how the mystics or the or the gurus or the sages would look at this story. The Gnostics, how would they look at this story? Because I guarantee you they are not looking at this story as if Moses and all his followers you know, uh, were just wandering in the desert for fucking.

Half a lifetime however long, you know.

So, if you look at it this way, Moses represents the part of us that leads our inner people, our inner people being, our thoughts, our emotions, and our fears out of slavery and into clarity.

Oh shit, Okay, I love that.

Okay, So let's look at Jesus here for a second. He would be the Christos. Okay, that would be the anointed one, you know, So all all Christos is is just the anointing oil. Some people might call that your.

Oh shit, what do they call it?

The the the fluid that that comes up your spine whenever you don't squander it, right, you know what I'm trying to say, something like yeah, uh well, no, it goes up the claustrom that's like Sanna going up the chimney is like the representative of that. But anyway, it's some kind of anointing oil that goes up your body. Right, and so Jesus would be the Christos, the anointed one. He's not just a man, but a symbol of the

Oh yeah. And then imagine not just the subconscious thoughts, you know, but the thoughts that you were having consciously, you know, especially if you're you're going through anxiety and you're just you're just letting those thoughts just go around the carousel, you know what I mean, just round and round, and before you know it, you're sick, you know what I mean. Dude, that's it. So as and we brought up old Boy here.

Remember Bill Donahue, we talked about Yes, dude, I love that guy. But as Bill, as Bill Donahue once said, the stories are not about them.

They're about you.

You are all of it, the one lost, the one unredeemed, and the one who redeems.

M I love it.

This is this is esoteric. This is this is secret society school right here. What's going on right here.

But it's not a secret, you know, that's the only thing.

No, it's out in the open. It's just it's a secret because it's not blasted all over billboards like McDonald's. You know, it's a secret because it's not a billion dollar megachurch with with priests and pastors riding in Lamborghinis. It's not like that. You know, as a matter of fact, I just drive a V six vehicle. Okay, I live in a vehicle. I even fucking I drive. I live in a fucking two bedroom apartment that is seven hundred and fifty six square feet. All right, we don't have

More than likely, not more than likely. Not.

I wouldn't know, you know, I wouldn't know either. So now we get to religion and the divine outside versus the inside. Okay, so the mystical union versus the institutional religion. The earliest spiritual systems, such as Vedic and Sufi, Gnostic and Buddhist, taught union with the divine through breath work, silence, altered states, and ritual. They didn't just talk about God,

Dude was always thinking about some shit, you know, figure it out?

Yeah, always on one. But he once said, trying to define yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth impossible. The truth, the true self, the divine within, can't be grasped through doctrine. Carl Jung taught and this quote, who looks outside dreams, who looks inside awakes?

That's deep. That is deep, dude.

Even whenever you're on psychedelics, you know, it's way more powerful when you just close your eyes and go in.

Oh dude, you almost feel like you could start like manifesting shit, like on some real shit. You know, like I feel like there's some extra shit going on there. Oh do you feel like your mind is like almost just completely connected to whatever that is?

Oh?

Do you feel like fucking Mickey Mouse with the wand and you can just start you know what I'm saying. But eddiehow so even witches and magicians knew this. They didn't ask for blessings, They conjured them. Ritual was never just for asking, it was for becoming.

M Damn.

See what I'm saying. This is a complete mental shift at how you look at things. This is whenever we talk about like see you always you just got to open up your third eye. Well, let me just think about it, like, let me just go into that here for a second, whenever you open up your third eye, like the idea is that you change your perspective, your perspective that you once had, and then when your third eye is open, now it's now a different perspective. You're

Yep, what would Jesus do? Right? You're embodying Jesus.

Cast you back to hell Satan? Right, Like, you don't even need Jesus to come. You just took on his essence because now you spoke his name, and his name has a certain essence, It has a certain frequency, it has a certain vibration, and you know that you're not gonna lose if you have Jesus.

You know that you're not gonna lose.

Yeah, Buddha, you know you're not gonna lose if you have so and so it doesn't matter. Like whoever you believe is the most spiritual gangster that you could ever imagine, and you embody that and you take on that essence. Fucking lookout demon because you're fucked hard.

Rhyme. It's out of here, dude, you know. And that goes along with what we what we were saying. You know, when we had optimistic banks on as far as everything being you. You know, it's like you're that that essence of whatever archetype or whatever entity you want to invoke or or embody. It's because it's already there, you know what I mean. You're just now bringing it to the surface and almost presenting it outward. You know what I mean? Yeah?

Absolutely, And even you know why prayer works. Actually it's because you're you're getting into the vibration of like thankfulness. Because the correct and proper way to pray is to pray as if it's all already happening, happened right, Like, you won't say, oh God, please, you know, send me the love of my life, or please give me a Lamborghini my.

Driveway or whatever.

Right, you say, thank you God for everything that you bless me for. I am eternally grateful for your your insane blessings that you have given me. I'm not worthy, but you have found me worthy of these things. Now you don't even have these things yet, but you know you believe, you have so much faith in God that it's going to happen once you have that conversation.

With them, right Okay, And when you're praying and when you're meditating, you are in that that space between the notes that we've talked about before, which is that divine space. And so thus you're able to manifest or make something happen in your favor. You know, dude, just fash much more easily. You're connected to that, that illogical space rather than the the worldly mind space.

Yes, and so it because it is kind of illogical. It is a lie logical to pray to somebody that is not physically there that we can see with our eyes, right, And that's.

What it takes. You know, there's a lot. I mean, there are so many things within religion that when when someone says it, if you think about that with a logical mind, it doesn't make sense. No, you know, you know people talking about exorcisms and someone throwing up frogs and nails. It's like you can't understand that logically. If you wanted to think about that logically, you just couldn't

And that's why I believe, in my opinion, why the stories say that Jesus was born of a virgin. Why Jesus was able to, you know, walk on water, Why he was able to heal the blind and heal the sick and do all these amazing things. Why he was able to rise from the dead three days after he was nailed to the gun damn cross. Excuse my friends,

And that's unbelievable.

And that Isn't that why they say that you need to encompass the the the energy and the imagination of a child right there, because they just already believe they don't need They don't give a fuck about logical.

You just might be hondo something right here. That's all I'm saying. I'm gonna say that, you know.

I'm trying, I literally obsessed obsess about this. I'm like, I just love this kind of shit.

I love you. I love your energy, daddy.

So so how to access their frequencies? So do you want to feel angelic love? Practice? Heart based breathing. Do you want?

Uh?

So visual So, if you're practicing heart based breathing, you would visualize green light expanding from your chest a lot like what Lord Byron did and does meditations?

Right, want some shit?

Visualize green light expanding from your chest? Do you want Odin's wisdom? Try a silent meditation or a trance state in nature and ask for insight without expectation.

Mm.

There we go.

I mean, just sometimes you just gotta shut up, you know what I'm saying, and like, don't don't pop your eye out, you know, just close your eyes and just try to utilize your third eye right right, Just become so silent that your your higher self or your subconscious actually has a voice.

Mm.

Like that's really that's really the trick of all of.

The quiet everything else down.

Yes, And sometimes it's going to feel like it's a message from God, and sometimes it's going to feel like it's a message from Jesus.

The truth is is it doesn't matter where it came from. A message really doesn't matter. And one you needed. That's it. That's all you need to know.

Yes, So even Shiva, So Shiva's presence come or comes when you release what no longer serves you. Pranayama in Hindu practice, mantras in Buddhism, mirror work, and mysticism. These are technologies for embodiment. Think about that. You're trying to embody the essence of these gods, You're trying to connect with them, but you're actually just embodying their essence. And what's going on is is that you know, you just so happened to I mean, you're a magical fucking being.

Like, we're so beyond that now, you know, so uh uh uh.

The gods are not found by asking why they exist. They are found by discovering how to tune into their frequency.

Hmm.

That's it.

That's it this.

Whole time.

You know what's funny, dude, what's funny is is that I always knew it was going to be simple, Like I knew it was going to be I'm not even saying that we cracked every single code that there is, but I'm saying this is the key to that next checkpoint like we have. Now we're like on crash Bandicoot. You can you go so far and you know what I mean, you hit a checkpoint and it's like, yeah, all right, I don't I don't have to start back at the beginning anymore because now we have a foundation.

Right, Yes, I love this. I love this episode already. Man, I do too, dude.

So nextly we get into shifting from why to how. Now, for a little context, if you look at it like this, this is I hope this helps a lot of people because it definitely unlocks something in me. Okay, whenever you shift from why to how, you literally shift from victim to creator.

M because you volunteered for all of this. Anyways, you know every situation that you're in. I mean, who else's fault was it? You know, it's only yours.

But that's the thing is that you people who are that they think that there is some kind of higher force, higher intelligence, somebody that's literally pulling the strings to our reality, call of God.

Whatever.

If you think that, then you're always going to wonder why, why God would you let this happen to me?

Oh my God, it's literally out.

Of my hands. I just got delta shitty hand. I ask God, don't ask me.

Right.

However, whenever you say how changes the story because now you're not you can't play victim literally, and.

It's more pliable now all of a sudden.

And not only whenever you ask how, it's that once you figure out how to do something, you literally create think about it. So for the longest time. I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you, dude. I'm self trained at learning about how to do all of this podcast, all this computer, all of this mixer, all this shit right, very self trained. I was horrible ass in the beginning, Like I mean, I couldn't get the sound right, I couldn't get the audio the video. I didn't know how

No?

I didn't say that I just said, how do I do it?

Right? How do I do it? Yeah? So one thing at a time, dude.

So so then we became creators, right, that's it all right? So when you ask why did this happen to me? You remain a character in someone else's story. When you ask how can I grow from this? You become the author. The difference is night and day. This is the secret that religions feared. If people stop asking why and start practicing how, they become free. In Buddhism, the Eightfold Path, Oh, we did a show on that.

Ye.

In Buddhism, the Eightfold Path is a how based motor roadmap. In witchcraft, spell work is how you turn your intent into reality. In psychology, Carl Jung taught individuation the process of becoming a whole not by asking why, but by integrating shadow and light.

Very important, man.

Yes, So there are some daily practices to reinforce the shift, and we're going to dive into that in more depth here a little bit later. But this is kind of just a little bit. So, well, instead of praying why won't the universe help me? Ask how can I serve the universe today? Instead of why don't I have what I want? Ask how can I become the person who's aligned with it? Then you want to journal your thoughts, declare your archetype of the day, use affirmations like spells.

You know. There's a lot of you know, and I'm probably one of those people as well. I definitely have been as far as you know, wishing that I could do something like I think it was just the other

I mean, whatever you aspire to be. Now, realistically, I'm five ten, I'm never going to dunk, so basketball is probably not in the cards for me, right right, So I mean.

The reason yeah, yeah, of course within reason, but sometimes out of reason, because I'm gonna be real with you.

Whenever I first started podcasting, I knew that this was what I was going to do. Like maybe at a subconscious level, maybe I wanted to believe that, but there was always people like, dude, you're fucking thirty something years. I think I was thirty. I was thirty whenever I started it as.

A matter like that even matters at all.

Exactly, and I was thirty whenever I started, and people were like, man, you really think like and they would almost feel bad for me for believing it. You know what I'm saying, he thinks he can do something. You know what, let's I'm gonna just say it. You know, like you can do it, man, do it. It's like

Yes?

Yeah, okay, what is an instrument that you never played?

Probably I don't know, saxophone. Let's just say, okay, saxophone.

And it would be an awesome you know, uh, it would be awesome to learn because those things sound awesome, right yeah, And you know with how your mind works that it would probably take a lot of time to go into it. Like if you set out and you said, you know what, maybe you watched a movie and there was somebody playing a saxophone. It really inspired you to want to start playing, and not only just start playing, you want to play as good as.

Him, right, or as good as her or whatever. Right.

And but you would know whenever you bought that saxophone, because that's obviously got to be the first step. You would know that whenever you bought that saxophone. Okay, if I'm trying to get there, I need to work on this at least six hours a day, every day, every single I need to obsess about it. I need to think about it. I need to bathe myself into it. I need to literally think about it. Whenever I'm on the porcelain throne, right. I need to think about it

Yep? And where do people go wrong? Though they don't do all that, you know, they try it. You know, they might take a few lessons and then kind of, eh, I'm not as good as I want to be, but they want to be good right away, you know, and it's kind of discouraging, and so it takes time.

That's the thing is that. Yeah, some people do. Some people take to some things a little bit easier than others for sure. But I'll tell you what, dude, I'm the last person to tell you like, I don't believe that, Like, I don't know. I mean sure that there are is like a less than a tiny minute percent of a chance that somebody is born great at something. And I think that literally, greatness is it's a it's a skill

I mean I could be it's something that's honed. I mean, yeah, there might, there might be, you know, but yeah, I feel like in everything you have to put that time, that time into it. You have to pay attention, you have to put your attention into it. There's something that you have to because nothing's free, dude, you know what I mean. You have to put something into it to get something back.

Oh dude, I mean even think about it like I'm I'm a huge NFL fan, right, I have been obsessed with the NFL ever since I can remember. Think about it like this Tom Brady, who is arguably, probably I don't even want to say arguably, he is the greatest quarterback of all time. He has the most championship rings. I mean, he was the league's MVP numerous times and was is literally in the NFL as the goat, right,

Right.

You literally you see him at the combine before he's getting ready to get drafted. He runs like a five flat forty, which is literally slower than it's slower than syrup that pours out of the bottle, like it is it is molasses. Bro Like, how like sickeningly slow? That is even for a quarterback. He looked like you you would see him like take his shirt off. You'd be like, get this fucking dadbod off the field game, like this guy whose uncle is this You know what I'm saying,

Just say this.

I no longer ask the gods. I no longer ask why the gods created me. I ask how I create as the gods did.

Oh all right, I'm gonna try it, dude. That's it, dude.

So now now we're going to explore how your divinity connects to magic, the law of attraction, manifestation, neoplatonism, and pantheism because for some of our favorite ones, of course, neoplatonism. Yeah, so magic, the art of becoming divine through will. Magic is not hocus Pocus, although it's a great movie. Great movies. Actually I like the second one more, you like him more? Yeah, they're both good they're both fun movies.

They're both fun. Yeah, I get I get down with them.

So magic is not hocus pocus. It's focused, it's focused will combined with intention. In its truest form, magic is the art of aligning your internal state with an external outcome. Rituals, symbols, and incantations are just tools for one one goal to embody a new reality from within. The wand the candle, the circle, these aren't. These aren't what create the effect

See if it works. Just try it, see if it works. Okay, that's all. Actually I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind having some people up, you know that that have a very different opinion with how we how we kind of vibe, you know, like I feel like that's what that's what helped me grow a little bit, just just kind of recently with this new job and meeting new people in all.

Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a really good tool to have somebody that's going to contradict your your own philosophy and your own spiritual insights because whenever you have people that contradict or just argue against it. Maybe now because ultimately it's just like it's just like Optimistic said, every single person, every single conversation, every single thing that happens outside of you, let's just say it for that, because nothing's really outside of you, but you know, the

Sorry, yeah that may and that makes so much sense, just with how my day went today, how my drive home went, and now this this beautiful episode that you're presenting, it's just like almost what and what you know? Hey, dude, you know shit doesn't make sense.

It doesn't just happen, you know, I know, I ain't no coincidences up in Yeah. So so yeah, we got into Alistair Crowley The Real Power.

Uh did I read that? No?

No, no, okay, So when you become the healer, the warrior, or the oracle, your world begins to reflect it. Magic is not about controlling forces outside of you. It's about awakening the god within and bringing it into emotion. Even even the word emotion, Okay, emotion is energy in motion, that's right. So whenever you shift your energy m hmm, it's an emotion. It's literally by shifting your energy, it is an emotion.

It's so simple, yep. Okay, I just learned that, like very recently. Somehow I didn't. I didn't know this, Like you told me about this like a week ago or less, and I was like, oh, fuck, that's it.

Actually, I'm not gonna lie. I got that one from Bashar. But he's probably not even the first one either, I'm sure. So instead of praying to a god for help, the magician becomes the god of that domain. Do you need clarity? Invoke Thoth, Mercury or Gabriel and speak their wisdom allowed through yourself. Do you need transformation? Light a candle, call on Khli or segment. Oh, shout out sec Man. I didn't know she was getting a little shout out of this.

Right? Who would ask that?

Why would you ask why why does a tree grow?

You know what I mean?

Like why does a grasshopper fucking chirp?

Just say how? That's right? Just say how?

Like you're everybody's looking for this philosophical trying to understand it in such a And I love philosophy as well, but like this this weird philosophical way of like just outright coming out and saying that you're never going to be able to understand it. It's like I have, literally since the beginning, I've always said that I don't accept that. I just don't accept that I will never be able to understand. Like there has to be a core truth that we can get to.

Right, and you know, maybe we'll get to it, you know, but you know maybe on the other side, you know, I don't know. I kind of am of the belief that it's this thing that maybe we never will but maybe I'm being negative about it. You know, maybe we will come to some kind of conclusion, but I don't know, dude, I.

Just feel like, no, I'm not saying that we're going to learn everything.

But yeah, I'm what the truth is, whatever it really really is, you know, without any kind of allegory or any kind of whatever it's it's I just don't know if it's ever something that we will fully grasp, you know, Like, I don't know. But that's just me at least as it right now.

Well, let me ask you this then, not to not to challenge you, but to kind of challenge you. Okay, whenever you go to sleep at night and you dream, who's the god of that reality? Let's say you go to a dream and you're in your living with an entirely different wife that somehow you just know that she's your wife and you love her, with entirely different children that somehow you just know and you love them, right

See? I would I feel like I would say me, you know, because it's happening within my my awareness alone, or at least that's what I feel is happening, But I'm not sure. I'm actually not sure about that. I mean, it would have to be you. But but then we've also kind of went over the idea that you know, when you dream, you're you're you're actually going somewhere and you're actually experiencing something outside of you, you know, And so who's to say, you know?

Well, And that's the thing too, It's that why would you limit yourself into thinking that you can't create? Think about like lucid dreams for example, right where you become aware in your dreams? Right, I mean, they don't happen very often for me. I love them when they do, right, Like they're awesome, Oh my god, I can fly, oh my god, I can you know whatever, Right, they can do whatever.

It's feel like they almost never happened for me, but they have had its. Yeah.

So if you're the only one that is aware in that reality that it is a dream.

Who's the god? Who's the god of that reality? That's interesting? Yeah, when you put it that way, it makes so much more sense.

So that's why it's so important to come to this level of awareness in this reality to where you're not looking outward, to where you don't have to question, like, well, I don't know how this great this reality is made. Now you just know that it's a gnosis, you know what I mean? Like, that's and I think that I think that people they they make it so difficult and it doesn't have to be that difficult.

Wow, dude, that's actually very interesting and you can apply that. You can to you know, when you're not dreaming.

Dude, I'm telling you they're like and I freaking love optimistic Banks, Like he is one of just the best people.

Dude. I've been bumping his music hard lately, Like, hey, have you heard that one that's most famous? Yeah, it's a good one. I like the the three three three song. Have you heard that one?

It's But there's just the way that he looks at this reality and how it has like literally changed his his reality in so many ways. And it's so simple. It's so simple that like that pantheism kind of everything is one kind of identity like that just it simplifies it in that sense.

I mean he even says, you know, like life is but a dream. It's like, oh fuck, you know, like how is it that we have so many synchronicities. How is it that we're I have a day that perfectly almost aligned, almost perfectly aligns with what we're going into today and almost having just this clearer understanding that we can have that coexist bumper sticker. You know, it's possible.

And that's why it's so important to learn all of them because sometimes you even if you look at an entire religion, if you get one thing out of it, dude, a game changer. That one little thing could literally be a tiny little key to the fucking mansion in your mind. Okay, dude, that's it. So so anyway, I'm sorry if I'm coming off as like sounding like a know it all. I don't like being like that, So I hope I'm.

Not giving that off. You're just you're just passionate, you know, I'm just excited. That's the way. That's kind of the way I show it.

But anyway, so now, all right, so we had talked about how magic kind of looks at the world in this kind of way. Now we're going to look at how the law of attraction and then we're gonna go down the list law of attraction, manifestation, neo platonism, pantheism, and a couple of other things that we're also going to get into. But what essentially all of these things are saying is the same thing. Stop asking why and understand how. That's that's it. That's just the message of

Mm hmm yep. I believe that this is the law of attraction exactly, the law of attraction. Yep, yep. And if you are let's say, you believe in something right or you let's say, and I was talking to my cowork today about this as far as because you know, in his religion and of course a couple others, you know, demons are are a very big thing. I mean, they even they have exorcists for this kind of thing, because obviously you would need an exorcist if demons are getting

One hundred percent and it's funny that you actually had that. Wow, so you legit had that conversation today, was it?

Yes, dude, Yeah, I talked for like an hour or two today, like throughout the day, like you know whatever, we saw you, like, hey, what do you think about this? You know, and just kind of bouncing it off of each other. And that's why I think it's really cool to have somebody like that, because it's kind of opening me up and you know what I'm saying, like it's being able to experience other you know, opposition, if you will, bro, and not that it's opposition, but a difference of understanding, bro.

So literally I saw a video earlier today and I thought, holy shit, this is awesome. And I end it over to Sean and it was like this, this person that was breaking down exactly what a demon is, what a synchronosity?

Holy shit?

Yeah that is crazy.

You know what. Let's just watch so the universe just displaying all of this for me, you know what I mean, at least seemingly.

Dude, We're gonna pull it up now. I feel like we should, all right, So we got it pulled up right here, and I want everybody just to listen see how it feels, all right, because it's certain things like this that you that you hear, or that you read, or you listen to whatever, and it just resonates. Okay, So if you've ever been worried about a demon, listen to this and fear not. As the Bible said three hundred and sixty five times. All right, let's check it out.

Demon.

Mon means moon, and moon means emotion, d means negative. So a demon is a negative emotion that takes over your mind, your body, and your spirit. Every thought you think creates an emotion, emotion and his energy in motion. And when you repeat the same negative thoughts over and over again, you give shape to that energy, and you give birth to something. That's something is your demon. Demons

Yes, okay, so that's pretty wild, right, Like just I mean, of all days that I would send you, and I don't really ever send you anything, to be honest, Like, I'm like, you know, I actually had to screen record that because you don't even have Instagram anymore, and I, you know, texted it to you and I was like, wow, you know, And actually, as I was thinking, I was like, you know what, I know that he's having a lot of those conversations with that guy at work.

I wonder if this got brought up well so much so that, you know, because and it was working the other way around for me too, because you know, he he had me watch that interview. I forget the guy's name, but he was on the Sean Ryan Show. He's an exorcist and he's telling these stories. And of course, you know, when when the thing is is when somebody believes something

And the thing is is that it can turn into a demon in this sense, yes, you know, but absolutely, But ultimately, all it is is a thought form that your mind obsesses about. And now you're seeing through the lens of that thought form, right, like that Tulpa, that aggri gore, that fucking whatever that is right and even at a subconscious level, whenever you're you know, let's just say you are a religious man, right, and you just so happen to step outside of the bounds of what

And let's say even.

For let's make it even crazier. Let's you go over to that random person's house and she or he has a tarot deck and they're like, hey, you.

Want to really know what the fuck is going on?

You know, let me read you real quick, and let me just see the energy that you're embodying. And God forbid you get the actual devil tarot card drawn for you, all.

Right, and then you go home. Oh my god, I fucking knew it. I knew I was stepping out of the bounce.

God, please please forgive me, please. And God's not going to listen to you because you knew you fucked up. You know what I'm saying, like, there, this is unredeemable. It's not possible for you to come back from this. And so then the demon continues to eat.

Oh yeah, that's it, and you just continue to feed it. So that's it. I thought that was interesting though. That is super interesting.

Yeah, so very very synchronistic as far as that whole thing went. I'm happy you brought that up because I was like, holy dude, and a synchronous the like that, Like, how many synchronicities do we need to see in order to understand that this reality actually is a dream?

Well? See, that's the thing. I feel like we have feelings of that all the time, you know, like we understand that there's this is what's going on, and it's a lot more magical and and you know, the simulation or whatever whatever spin you want to put on it, you know, but it then even that is elusive, and then you kind of get more grounded and you're you're worrying about some physical shit, you know, your bills or whatever, and then you start to think that, you know, negative shit,

And I'll be honest with you, I'm gonna I'm gonna put a really fun comparison to this.

Okay, So.

I think what's really going on when people see continuous synchronicity after synchronicity after synchronous the continual manifestation after manifestation after manifestation.

It's like these.

Subtle underlings of things that are going on in reality that you almost don't want to pay attention to because the reality that you build in your mind is so structured and it has a great foundation, and you don't need these things wrecking that because you're finally comfortable, you finally have it all figured out right, But ultimately you know what that reality actually is. It is the beauty

Men cheat a lot more than women.

Let's just be real, and not in all cases, but in most cases, I would say, so the wife knows all of this. But you know what, dude, that that husband or that boyfriend or whatever has said you can't make it on your own. It's not possible. Like you cannot live without me. You will literally cease to exist. You will live in a cardboard box if it wasn't for me. Okay, I mean yes, so you caught me cheating. So what I come home to you every night?

Who cares? Right?

That kind of mentality. So the wife just eventually is just like, you know what, I think you're right. I don't think that I can't make it on my own. I don't think that I could be able to go and make a dollar. I don't think that I could pay my own rent if I decided to go get a job. I don't have any experience. I've been with you for so long. I have no experience in anything.

Right.

That woman is Stockholm syndrome. She's seen all the signs that she needs to see, She's gotten all the proof that she needed to see.

In her life. Yep. But what does she do? She pretends that she didn't see it.

M Okay, So if we if we can take that story and apply it to spirituality, Okay, a lot of people are that way whenever it comes to spirituality. Yeah, I see the signs, Yeah, I see the synchronicities.

Yeah.

I know it's weird that I keep on seeing four four four three three three, and I know that that's my number. And I know that the universe or God or Jesus or whoever is talking to me.

I just don't know why.

You know why, you know why you're seeing it? And it's just that actually it doesn't even what, It doesn't even matter why. It's how how are you seeing right? How are you seeing it? The answer is, it's because this fucking reality ain't what you thought it was, right, This reality is but a dream and it's a it's it's it's such an intricate dream to where it is

Well, it is at the very least, I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off. At the very least, it's just a sliver, you know what I mean. Like I wouldn't even say that. And maybe it's not even just the fact that it's an illusion, but it's just part of it, you know, because it's definitely a part of it, you know what I mean, I don't even.

Want to say that. I think that if if you're looking at anything and you only have ten percent of the information, but you're seeing it as if you think that it's one hundred percent of the information, that is that's an illusion. That's one hundred percent illusion. Think about

Yep, that's always got to be goblins.

Dude, or something. You know what I'm saying, Like, there's always something extra. And so that's not reality, you know what I mean, Like.

The reality. I don't talk about the reality. That's the thing. It's their reality.

Yeah, right, right, And so we could say that this reality that we live in is the human reality mm hmm, because I mean we're not just the humans as we talked about before. Actually I heard this, uh, this one awesome quote and I believe that it was actually in a in one of the Optimistic Bank songs and he uh it might have been from Alan Watts now that I think about it, where he goes, when you pour water into a glass, it becomes the glass, right yep, So is water glass?

No?

No, no, but that's where it's contained, you know what I mean? Right, Okay, But whenever it's in the glass. I mean, hey, you don't you don't know anything otherwise, you're just looking at it. Hey, it just looks like a glass, looks like there's something in there, right, right. But the water it didn't really have it didn't really have a say so about where it wanted to be poured, you know, it just it was just like, oh, r, yeah, I guess I'm going here. You're pushing me here, right,

You become the car. I mean, I've had plenty of different cars in my life.

You know, like I guess I would have died I don't know, ten twelve times by now, you know if you look at it through those lenses.

So anyway, we're getting real crazy over here. Sorry about that. This shit just hyiced me up. Reality is just the level of perception, you know, That's really what it is.

Absolutely so the law of attraction. Now we're finally going to get back to it. Consciousness creates the mirror. So the law of attraction is the mainstream whisper of an ancient, esoteric truth. Your inner state manifests your outer world. Law like attracts like, not just because of energy, but because of identity. When you dwell in lack, you attract lack. When you dwell in abundance, opportunity begins to recognize you. It's not about begging the universe to give you what

And it's and that's so true, dude. I mean, if you're in your mind saying you're a victim, well, I mean you're going to be a victim. You know, you're going to see all the signs that point to that, you're not going to see a victim. Just be totally successful and believe they're a victim. No, yes, that doesn't line up there.

There's never been a successful victim in the history of ever, right, not one that's played a victim is entire life anyway, Maybe maybe that victim, you know, transforms himself or herself or whatever and becomes more than just the.

Because now they are in their mind more than just a victim exactly.

Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, you're do do let me find I keep on losing where I'm at here.

Oh, here we go.

The moment you stop waiting and start choosing the moment you act as if you already are who you.

Want to be.

The mirror of reality shifts. This is divine alignment in motion. Even Jesus echoed this when he said, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and.

It will be yours. That's a manifestation, dude.

The wise sage, the wise sage that Jesus was, had it right there in.

The book, right there, Dude, it's there. Why is that so so hard to understand?

That's what I don't get well, because people just you know, they've they've and this is everybody, everybody's been brainwashed that stop imagining things. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because imagination is connected with children as much as.

Alcohol is to alcoholics. Mm hm, you know what I mean.

Like, and so we were taught that, oh, imagination, that's that's just for kids. I'm not gonna do that.

And so, but but it's a powerful tool. So why would you just let that tool go right? You know?

Like and and so we've almost been kind of conditioned in a sense not to believe or not to imagine anything. And it almost feels silly because it's like what am I playing with?

Uh?

With barbies or or ken dolls or whatever. Now I have to imagine a little reality for them. It's like, hmm, I mean, think about the world that those kids are creating in their rooms every day.

Mm hmm. Yeah. One of my my not the same cowork but the other dude that I that I talk to, you know, he and you know, there's a little bit of a language barrier between him and I. Sometimes I feel like I say something and he's not fully understanding

Well, you know where that actually comes from is because you're not supposed to like, you're not supposed to taint your temple because people think that the temple is the body, that this is the divine vessel. Whenever it's like, you know, you could look at that in multiple different ways. A lot of people's temple, especially within magic and witchcraft and you know, manifestation and law of attraction all that kind of stuff.

The temple is the mind, it's not the body, right right. Yeah, And well, well where it went was he got into art because I said, well, you know, it's art, you know, like art's cool, you know, and and he was like, no, no, art, Art is like one of those things that's from the devil, you know, art. And he said something about the imagination and I and I questioned about that. I said, you know, what do you mean the imagination? I said, And maybe, like I said, there's a language barrier, so maybe he

I guess if if art is evil, then you would have to say that God is evil.

Well, because I asked him that too, I said, well, I feel like art comes from God, you know, like your imagination and your ability to create something and you know, like and not to argue with him, of course, you know, but it was just like, I don't know, we just definitely had a difference of opinion. I said, well, I just don't agree with that, you know, and and that was that. But I feel like, you know, art and being able to create and make something beautiful would be

Yeah, but no, it's even it's funny though that he would even say that that music is evil. Now, there is a lot of very bad music out there, Like the music industry is an absolute cess.

Poll Well, he goes there. Sometimes he goes there as far as like, well, the people in Hollywood, and he gets he almost sounds like a conspiracy theorist, almost like he's almost like right there, you know, And but yeah, so I don't know what to do with that.

Mainstream music. A lot of mainstream music is absolutely dark and coming from an evil place one hundred percent. Like you look at some of the the record labels and

That's why you.

See all the satanic symbolism at the halftime shows and and all of Lady gagas and Dose of Cats songs and like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I mean there is a there is a like like crazy, nasty, evil side of the mainstream music industry.

Now. To say that all music is evil is that's that's a super He he was going on to say that music wasn't art, and I was like, I'm pretty sure it is. You know, like you're you're expressed because you said no, art is when you when you paint something and you're expressing, you know, through painting, And I'm like, well, music is the same thing. It's it's putting words and rhythm to to expressing your your feelings or how you know what I mean, what you're going through or what

I'm just looking at that like, man, his poor kids aren't allowed to have crayons, Like how far does it?

You know?

But uh but yeah, I mean I I understand his hesitation behind it, but to group it all together like that, that's just anytime you group anything together, it's it's usually incorrect. So so anyway, yeah, I mean, that's that's a very limited and fearful kind of mentality, which is what we aim to break people free from on this show, is to liberate people's minds with information and hopefully they can take a lot of this information and apply it and

I feel like it's important, you know, because these are people's you know, how they really feel and how they see the world. And that's what we're here to do too, you know. I want to express and or explore rather other people's experience and beliefs and try to get it all to fit together somehow.

Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred. That's I'm happy you're doing that. So when most people get stuck. When most people get stuck is asking why their manifestations haven't shown up. But the real question is how they are showing up right now in subtle ways. Your current thoughts, beliefs, and habits are rituals already casting spells every single day. I'm just kind of going over this last paragraph to get us

Thing, right, Okay, And so if your manifestation hasn't come yet, then you just aren't quite that embodiment of the person that would obtain that.

Yeah.

And even like you know Jim Carrey for example, Funny Literally yesterday I just showed my daughter The Mask because she'd never seen Oh my god, dude, that movie still holds.

Up because just two nights ago, my wife was like, we need to show them that because we were scrolling through the movies and because I was like one of those movies that we wanted to show the kids, and we were scrolling through. She's like, oh, the mask. We need to show them the mask. And I was like, yeah, we do.

That's so funny, dude, It's so funny still you know, holds up yeah, yeah, and so uh but yeah, we we just watched that yesterday and and I was just thinking, like, as far as manifestations, for example, and I like to bring up Jim Carrey because he has a lot of good examples. He talked about whenever he was a little kid, he used to always like want this bike and like this bike. All of his friends had it, and it was just the most sick bike. But he grew up

Wanted with the banana seat and everything right.

And the crazy thing is I believe that he never even asked his parents for it because he knew that they didn't have any money, so he felt bad even asking, but then he just ended up getting it right. Another one was, you know, the blank check right that he wrote.

Or wasn't a spencer Okay, I thought it was a thinger.

Okay, I'm pretty sure it was Dumb and Dumber. I could be wrong on that, but they all kind of came around that it came out the same time anyway. But anyway, from that Dumb and Dumber movie, he got paid a million dollars like right of the dot, right, and so I mean call it just coincidence, but he was he believed in it. He believed in himself. He knew that if he put the work in, he would eventually be able to achieve these things. And so that's

It's like, no, it is.

It is emotion. And also but remember emotion is energy emotion, right, so you need the energy you need to get up and be able to do it all and everything, but you also want to incorporate that that essence of whatever it is, and that is ultimately the secret to manifestation essentially.

Right. Yeah, I love that story, you know, because that check was sitting in his pocket, you know, and obviously he's doing the work, you know, of course, but that check was always his, you know, in his mind, it was his already, and so yeah, dude, it's.

Perfect one, no thing for him to just go and cash it. Of course, it's like there's no like the universe or God doesn't make mistakes. Bro, you know, like it's that's that's just how it is. But anyway, and that brings us right too. Manifestation creating as the gods did.

So.

Manifestation is not about making things happen, it's all It's about allowing what is already encoded in your soul, in your soul blueprint, to emerge in the physical form. It begins with being, not doing. Most people manifest from stress and urgency, but real manifestation comes from inner stillness and belief. It is the divine feminine re paired with the divine masculine directing. This is the energetic polarity that births worlds, just like Brahma and Saraswati, Shiva and Shakti. Just going

Yes, absolutely, God, I love this stuff.

So now let's get over to Neoplatonism. In neoplatonism, all emanates from the One right. Neoplatonism is the philosophical root of much mysticism and magic, and it teaches that all reality emanates from a single infinite source called the One. The One is beyond name, form or thought. Everything that exists is simply a degradation of that pure light into more specific vibrations. You me, the Gods, the angels, all

Yeah, dude, And I feel like that's what we're doing, you know, as far as remembering, we're going through this journey and as far as if you want to talk about awakening, it's like nature makes no mistakes, you know, and so when you go through something like this, and regardless of what belief system or path you take, I feel like they all lead you to whatever that is, you know, and we're all just on that journey, you know, and you go through that awakening and nothing is what

It's just a journey to remember because you've like, where do you think you were before you incarnated as a human? Like, here's the the the real, like real shit about all of it is. Even the first law of thermodynamics says that energy can't be created nor destroyed, only transferred. So we weren't even created. Okay, we weren't never created, We were never destroyed, We only transferred. We are an energy, right.

And the energy that is us has always existed since the beginning of time, even if there was I don't even know if there was a beginning of time, but but yeah, it always has been. It just all has been.

Everybody's always trying to figure out, well, you know, when when is the the end of the world gonna happen? Or when was the universe created? Or when is the universe going to end?

It's like, oh, why are you assuming shit like human queries, you know what I mean?

Because we can't fathom the idea that something has always and will always and will continue to always be.

And that's what we are.

We are eternal beings. We're living this temporary human life that we are not human like we're we're in a human but we're essentially like like in venom like you've seen the New Venoms with Tom Hardy and stuff like that. Right, we are the symbiote.

That's it. That's the best way we can put it. So and most don't even have a choice in the matter, you know, or maybe we did. We probably don't know.

We probably did. That's the thing, you know, is that Alan Watts was like, you know, like imagine you know that whole thing about like if you're the creator and you're lonely and you're trying to forget about how lonely you are, so you have you just create and divide yourself and divide yourself and divide yourself, and but then you beat all those realities where you divided yourself because

And that's that you're having the dream at all.

See, And that is philosophical, But it's not to say that it's wrong, right, you know. And I'm not gonna sit here and say that I absolutely absolutely know that that's right, but I will say that's the closest to the right answer that I've ever gotten right, And like you.

Said before, you know, we don't need to look at everything so literally anyways, you know what I mean, it's all just kind of that that part from Wall Street just it's it's a woozy, it's a whatever, crazy gazi. Yeah. So it's like it doesn't even matter really, that's it. Yeah.

So so now let's get to pantheism. This is going to be the last one of the spiritual outlooks that we look into, and pantheism God is all, and all is you. Pantheism offers a radical truth. God is not a person watching creation. God is creation. Every tree, every atom, every star, every heart beat, all is divine. This means you are not part of God. You are God in a unique expression. The ocean doesn't contain the wave. The wave is the ocean momentarily expressing itself. When you inhale,

Oh.

I love that Pantheism shows us that every act is sacred. Brushing your teeth, making love, speaking words. It's all the divine experiencing itself through you. When you stop trying to find God and start recognizing God in everything, your life.

Becomes a temple. Your life becomes a temple. How about that?

Now?

I love it, I love it, But then I also know that that's gonna ruffle feathers, you know, for something that's okay, that's okay.

We're not asking everybody to just blindly believe. I mean, look, everybody, everybody listening to, everybody here is on their own journey to truth. And some people they find a good a good resting stop and they and they that's that's all they need and no need to go any farther, right, and and that's there's nothing wrong with that and that and I don't even want to demean it by saying that it's just a resting spot and it's not even the end, because who are we to say what the

And that's the right place, of course, because nature and God and the divine, It makes no mistakes.

Yes, so Alan wattsone said, God, I love these Alan watts quotes here. But Alan wattsone said, you are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself. An aperture is like the lens on the camera thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's pantheism. You are not broken. You are the cosmos

Some things you just read nice about that, dude, you know, really is like you're doing what the universe is doing. You know, like when something just isn't going right, it's like, well, you know, that's just what the universe is doing right now. It's what's supposed to be happening. And there's the reason I just don't know what it is right now. Yeah.

Well, I mean, and that's that's all right. I mean, we're that's what this whole show is about. We're just trying to figure it out, and we may never get there. That's totally fine, but we're gonna die trying, right.

Okay.

So we've talked about how, you know, other quotes and and other philosophical insights and religious insights and mystical insights about how to explain the idea of shifting from.

Why to how?

So now, how do we embody it in actuality in practice? How can we literally do this on a daily basis? What do we need to do in order to start living this way instead of just like thinking that it's a cool thing to listen to, right, Okay, So the first principle is you are the Temple. There's just something about that name, dude, about that word, because you know, I mean, I was adopted whenever I was three years old.

Yep.

And well, I mean I still have the same mom, but my dad, my stepdad, adopted me. I don't even call him stepdad. I'm not gonna get into all that. He's my dad, right. I was adopted whenever I was three years old. My original last name is Temple.

I just love that.

I would never change it back because I'm not trying to dishonor anybody or anything. But it's pretty cool though. So the first principle is you are the temple before you do anything else. The listener needs to understand this. You are not seeking divine power, you are the vessel of it. This reframes everything. We're not reaching upward, we're reaching inward. So we have a daily practice here. You

That's right.

So you want to build your inner temple. The quote here is gods don't wait, they create, and creation starts in silence.

Mm hmm. That's that sound like yeah.

But so what you would do to practice this you would sit in stillness for ten to fifteen minutes each day, whether it's listening to silence, stillness, whatever, meditation. Even give yourself ten to fifteen minutes a day. It's not a lot, all right, literally, I mean some people take forty minutes on the shitter, all right, give yourself ten minutes you know, doing nothing. Yeah, break yourself off a piece, you know, Yeah, exactly.

Just say that that's heavy. That's that.

So this trains the nervous system to recognize stillness as power, not passivity. You're not meditating like a monk. You're accessing your command center.

M hm.

Because it's there, dude, it's you know, dude, We've experienced it. It's absolutely there.

Uh.

Nextly, you would want to use divine speech. Everybody knows this one, and if you don't, now you do thought plus word. So a thought plus a word out of your mouth equals manifestation.

Okay.

The quote is the gods created with the word. So do you your inner voice? I'm sorry, Your voice is is your wand if you speak limitation, you cast limitation. If you speak truth and alignment, you reshape your reality. So how would you practice this? You would practice this by beginning each day with spoken intention. Very easy, you're just saying things. But you would say these three things. I walk in power, I carry divine insight, I harmonize

What do I become? Or what do I need to become?

And then you would speak as if you already became.

That right when you're speaking. I mean, that's that's just vibration.

You know everything Nikola's esla. Everything is energy frequency and vibration, the like most like influential mathematician and scientific guy of all time, outside of even Einstein, but even Einstein probably vibe with him.

Oh for sure, real recognize real.

So an example of this, what you what you might say if you're trying to what do I want? What do I need to become? And then you'd speak as if it's done. An example of that would be I am becoming the version of me that heals others with presence and brings wisdom with every word I speak. Just say that, and not only just say it, you literally want to.

You don't believe it, you don't have faith in it. You know it?

Okay, this is the line belief. You be it, you know it, you are it what you say as it just said.

Your words are your wand.

Okay, your fucking Mickey mouse out there. You got a wand And the next thing, you know, whatever you want happens. So I am becoming the version of me that heals others with presence and brings wisdom with every word I speak. Of course, you can write out your own spell or your own you know, affirmation or whatever, and so you say it every day, and whatever you're trying to become, you say it every day. Eventually those words are going to vibrate back.

To you.

And eventually you start becoming that.

And see this is this is I think you know, people might find that hard to believe, but we were just speaking on the negative affirmations that you tell yourself, you know, if you're stressed out or things just just aren't going your way, you know, and you have little that little voice in the back of your head that's just like, you know, you're a real piece of shit, and you know, and then you start to see more of that, that proof that you know, and so you're

And a lot of these sayings we've heard throughout our whole life.

How about this one. The guy who thinks he can and the guy who thinks he can't are both right, that's right? And hearing that as a kid, right, yes, yes, And I've also heard you know, people say, many people that we've even had in our podcast on their shows, you know, saying that when you speak about your problems,

And like there's actually for for the biblical people out there, there's actually things within the Bible, like even I think Jesus was taught like trying to basically teach people how to fast correctly. And one of the things that he said was he goes, look, whenever you're fasting, don't tell anybody. Don't don't say a word about it, because everything that's gonna come out of your mouth, you are going to be so poor me. It's not even gonna be funny.

That's bablable. Yep. Put on the armor of God every day that you wake up. That's what the Bible says. Yep.

So each deity or angel is a frequency. You tune into them, not by belief, but by acting in alignment with their essence, something we kind of talked about earlier. I was hoping we were going to get a little bit more into this. So the practice that you would do to achieve this, you would pick a divine archetype each week, maybe you wanna call on Athena or Michael, Archangel Michael Thoth, whoever it is.

Pick one of them per week.

Study their qualities, their wisdom, their justice, their power, their insight, their transformation, whatever. Just obsess about that one deity, that one archetype per week. This is actually a great.

Path they are. This is a great practice.

I would actually I would love to learn a lot more about Archangel Raphael and Archangel Michael.

Yep, because I tell you wish you would just be doing anyways, you know, just for the show.

Oh yeah, for sure, and everybody really if you're trying to take on the essence that's literally even the people that are in magic in fucking uh. Even Lord Byron talks about this like he studies all these demons, he

You know what I mean. Like they say, like you know, know thyself. You know, if you want to become the best version of yourself, you've got to figure out who you are. So if you're trying to embody some type of energy from some other you know, archetype or what have you, of course you don't want to know what that even looks like. And now you know what it looks like and what it should feel like, and what you're capable of when you successfully embody that.

Dude. I know people who like what do they call Jacob calls them chicken soup for the soul. Christians, which are basically like Christians that they might read a Verse and they're like, oh, my God, Jesus is literally the best, you know, kind of thing that really they don't really know a whole lot about the Bible. They never really read a Verse themselves. They only go to church on Sundays,

It's gonna be insane.

You're gonna be fucking calling lightning strikes out of the sky.

Dude.

It's gonna be crazy.

It's gonna be weird, dude. It's gonna get when you know, it's really interesting too, because you know, you mentioned Jesus, and whenever, whenever something scary happens, and people just even even people that might may not even be that that religious, you know, might even think of, you know, depending on how scared they are of what's going on, they might say his name as well, because like it's it seems like somebody that would kind of have the ability to

He's the wild card. You use him as anything, you know what I mean? Yeah, and even like.

El the Alchemist, Jesus, of course he's going to help you. You know, why wouldn't he?

Right, and even out El the Alchemist whenever he was like, yeah, I mean whenever I go in and and and I go into people's houses to to to do exorcisms and stuff, he goes, yeah, I mean, if you're a Christian, I'll call on Jesus, I'll call on any angel whatever you want, and it works, and he goes. But the thing is is that, you know, if you don't really care who I call on, I'll also call on Satan and it works the same exact.

Way, right right, But you know, you know, do what you will with that, you know, I mean, if it works, it works, but I mean not for me. But you believe. That's the thing. It's because he believes that it works, yes, then it will. That's what it takes. That's the elixir, right there.

You know.

So where were we? Okay?

So you would pick a divine archetype. Each week you would study their qualities, and then each morning you would declare this sentence, I embody archetype name, I walk in archetype names power. So for example, I embody thor I walk in their in his strength or whatever. Right, and then throughout the day you would ask how would this being respond to this situation? Or ww jd am I right? Over time, these frequencies rewire your character. M hmm, yeah,

Yeah, I'll tell you what.

What's this has been literally ever since I was a little kid, and I'm so I've always been so suggestible, and I even I try to be that way even in reality. Like, for example, whenever we have a guest on here or guests on the Cult of Conspiracy, whatever, I whenever somebody is telling their story, they have a conspiracy, they have an opinion, they have a theory, they have this, they have that, I assume that every single word that

Exactly. Yes, Yes, And that's exactly what. Yeah, That's what I've been going through lately, dude. When when I'm talking to these guys and they believe so much and what they believe in, I'm not so much looking for something to tell them to make them like think that they're wrong.

It's all a mirror. Every sing at even my hand is a mirror.

My dude. You know, I'm not gonna get too weird. All right, let's just keep going because I real quick, just to go off of what you're saying. As far as the people that you have on your show, it's like you you go into their bubble, you know, because you know that the way that they feel about it is that it's absolutely real and whatever they're talking about is real, Like absolutely they're they're they're not just making ship up spot right, and so.

Yeah, their reality, it's that's the truth. That's their truth, you know. And so and it's kind of like, let me step into your aura right quick, see what that's like. You know, that should be the new pickup line at any bar that anybody goes to.

Just step into your aura right quick, let me see what that aura do?

You know?

All right, let's move on all right. So the next one is we got a shadow work, very important shadow work integrate the opponent.

Ooh kay.

Interesting, So the only thing separating you from godhood is that is that you refuse to face with Uh wait, let me say this correctly. The only thing separating you from godhood is what you refuse to face within yourself.

Makes sense? Wow?

So no god or mystic ever ascended without descending first. To become whole, you must integrate shadow, the fears, the wounds, the habits, and the lies that block your light.

So how would you.

Practice at working on this? Of course, there's journaling, So you would ask yourself a couple of questions. You'd say, what part of me do I fear expressing? And what belief am I ready to release today?

To journal this?

Then, so you'd ask yourself the question, maybe pick one right and just focus on one thing at a time. You're not trying to crush the whole thing in one second. And then you would sit in meditation and you would call forth a painful memory or a part of yourself and you would say, I see you, I forgive you, I reclaim your power.

Wow, that's such we should have started there. Yeah, I think that's the first movement. You can't you can't build a house on some shitty foundation. No, you got to redo that foundation first.

There's no such thing as building a house in the void. And if everything you got is literally a vacuum sucking void, that is just going to dispose of everything, And it doesn't matter your thoughts, it doesn't matter your manifestation, doesn't matter anything that you're trying to create if it's not built on fucking sturdy ground. This is why, dude, shadow work is so important. And where do you do most of your shadow work?

Well, it says it right here.

You sit in meditation and you call forth a fameful memory or part of yourself. This is why we literally meditate every single episode. Yes, if you are not meditating, you are doing it wrong. Just understand, like the first part of any kind of spiritual anything, it must involve meditation.

There is no other, dude. Yeah, because you know, I've gone through different things, man, where I'm trying to think of a certain situation or maybe a decision I made that you know, I'm trying trying to figure out if I if I made the right decision, or what have you, but I'm also driving to work, and I'm also you know what I mean, maybe I'm running late, and there's

Want, dude. It's literally like, imagine imagine your your kid. You at one point in time, you had three kids in diapers, so I already know you understand what fucking chaos is.

Towards the end, do we were just buying one size for fits all? Dude? I was like, you know what I'm not. I'm not doing the three different sizes. You know, it could be a little big whatever.

But you remember how having three kids and diapers, nothing could ever be clean, nothing could ever be organized. Everything is always fucking messy, Every every single thing is chaotic, right, and so just imagine it like this. Let's say your

Because nobody wants to build a puzzle.

No, it's like the people that buy puzzles from the good will store, Like that's a risk, you know what I'm saying.

That's one of the riskiest things you could do. We're on the fence about using the Wigi board, but we're both against spying a puzzle from goodwill. You're setting yourself for that matter, Yeah, you're setting yourself up for failure, right and disappointment.

But imagine, so, uh, we're gonna use the dominoes as an allegory for all of our ship that we haven't dealt with in our life. That is all stacking up and just building one big ship mountain.

Okay, m hmm yep.

And it's all scattered everywhere, and you don't even know where to start because you can't see the top, and the base is so damn wide that you know it's gonna it's literally going. You're gonna have to manifest God powers just to be able to fucking try to to take all this down. So all those dominoes, they're scattered everywhere, and you don't really know what to do. But what you do, what you could do is go into meditation.

That one out there. Great, dude, No, I loved it. It's perfect.

So it says, this is how the fractured self becomes the divine self by reclaiming all the lost pieces. Wow, I didn't even see that, and that's crazy.

Maybe I subconsciously saw it.

I don't know.

Maybe, Yeah, who knows. That's weird.

So the next one is sacred ritual, So you would turn daily acts into divine practice. The quote is gods don't have to do more. They do everything with presents. Don't think that you need robes or candles or temples. Every act becomes divine when done with awareness and intention. So the practice you would do, you would make some tea, not trum tea, just black tea, whatever, it doesn't matter. Make some tea, say a prayer as the water boils.

That's cool. That's probably what everyone asks you. What you're doing? You know, it gets weird. I would just say it or go for it, you know, I know you would. Yeah, I would say, brother, what are you gonna do? You know, hal Coke and South. Yeah, but hey, that's on some real ship.

I mean, you don't have to say to everybody else, but just just like an internal conversation with yourself, you.

Know, so uh pretty sweet? Love it.

So when your entire life becomes ritual, it becomes ritual. You no longer separate spiritual from material. You live as a god. That is awesome, you know. One of the fut actually the final one, The final practice that we have is silence and listening access the nosis. The quote is nosis doesn't come from belief, it comes from direct experience. The final and most important piece is to listen, not to me, not to religion, but to that silent, eternal

Shift in your life.

Because becoming as God's is not about escaping the world. It's about mastering yourself in it. And nosis doesn't come when you beg for it. It comes when you finally stop waiting.

And choose to remember, dude. And that's, you know, out of all these practices, I'm sure once you start doing it, that's the easy part, the actual practice of it. You know, it's easy because you start doing it, you start seeing results, and you start just doing it more. The hard part is just starting it, you know, as with anything with dieting, with exercise, with any practice, just starting is the hard part.

Acts absolutely, And do we always say like, I don't think that there's any one journey that the fool goes on, Like I might be at I don't know, the Tower part of the journey in one aspect of my life, But then I could be at the lover's part of the journey, and another aspect of my life, I could be at the fool's part of the journey in.

That aspect of my life.

And so you can literally apply all of this to every single aspect. There is nothing that it doesn't apply to literally everything. You want to learn how to shave better, you want to learn how to drive better, you want to learn how to be a better lover, you want to learn how to be more empathetic, whatever the case. You want to learn how to be a better parent, whatever the case is. You can literally encompass every single part of this episode into that aspect of your reality.

That's it.

That's it. So stop asking why and just ask how, Just ask how.

I do have one more thing that I do want to say as a final message here. Okay, So the final message is is that the truth has always been inside you.

That is the g nosis. Okay.

You don't need to believe anything that you heard tonight. This isn't about faith. It's about remembrance. You've been trained to look outward for answers to gods, to institutions, to gurus, to external validation. But everything you've searched for already exists inside you. The power, the love, the clarity, the ability to create your reality. It's all in you, not symbolically literally all in you. Angels, gods, archetypes. They're not floating

You already know the answer.

You always have that uncomfortable feeling when something outside you tells you to obey, follow, or wait. That's your inner nosis calling bullshit. This isn't a theory, it's your birthright. The same force that forms galaxies and birth stars is alive in you. It's not a metaphor. It's physics, it's biology, it's consciousness. You're not just made in the image of the divine. You are the Divine experiencing itself in human form.

Now you know, not.

Because I told you, but because you felt it all along. And I do want to say this, And this is where your awakening.

Just began.

Okay, but it doesn't stop there. Now that you have sparked the inner nosis, what do you do with it?

That's the question? Oh dude, beautiful, I love that. And if this is somebody's first Men in Mystery episode, wow, I hope. So they're just gonna be a little disappointed when they listen to like episode one, They're gonna be like, Wow, these guys have come a long way. I think they're like, wait, why.

Are they talking about conspiracies.

Fuck, who is this guy? Yeah, that's fucking funny, dude, I got a tarot card. If you're ready, man, let's go. And I think it's kind of interesting just the imagery of this, but uh, it is the uh the Six of Pentacles. Think of what they were called? We love Pinnacles though.

Yeah, I was like, I wonder if he's gonna say the card that I'm on, because I was on the Six of Wands and you were like of and I was like.

So and real quick. It's kind of just interesting, you know, because the images of this dude like holding a Oh I forget what that thing is called. But he's like dropping some bread crumbs. It looks at least it looks like bread crumbs, you know. And it's like, I don't know, I feel like every episode we just stumble upon just a couple more bread crumbs.

Oh wow, this meaning of this card is absolutely perfect for this episode.

Holy hop, all right? Cool.

The Six of Pentacles Give it and receiving opens the flow of prosperity in your life. Always give what you would like to receive. Wow, you are met with generosity and even exchange when you draw the Six of Pentacles and this card, a wealthy man offers coins to people who are kneeling before him. His body position is above theirs, yet he holds a scale in his hand as a reminder that equality is important, as is sharing what you have with those who have less. This card is much

Yeah, dude, And as far as you know, putting in what you're trying to receive or are trying to get out of something. You know we're talking about trying to learn how to play an instrument, Well, you got to put in those hours of practice and really immerse yourself and put in that time to receive the ability to play whatever instrument. That is, you know, And yeah, dude, I couldn't think of what he was holding because for some reason, I thought there was like some fancy name

Anyways, I mean it's like a liber scale kind of thing.

Yeah, dude, that was That was great.

But yeah, it says the numerology for this card is six. Obviously, it's a six of pentacles, which stands for harmony and generosity.

I love it.

And if this show wasn't if this show wasn't about harmony, it's literally about synthesizing your energy and connecting it and merging it with yourself, as if like you're the human version of the avatar, connecting it, connecting your hair to the tail of the dragon avatar. You're just connecting with the energy of that thing to be able to move it, guide it, demand from it whatever you need from it. Right, You're just embodying that. So how are we going to

But I hope that everybody got a little something from this.

I definitely did from a dude, I spend so much time researching for this episode.

Oh it looks like it, dude. It really shows.

Man.

There was a lot of passion, and I feel like that people are going to get something out of it, you know, not to persuade them that what we're saying is right but almost not the opposite of that, but but just that everybody's kind of right, and that you know, whatever reality and whatever thing you want to put your mind into, then that's the right one if you really want it to be that, you know, and if it brings you peace and we can all get along, man, you know, that's it, dude.

I mean, whether you're somebody who believes in fairies elves, it doesn't matter. I mean, all of these things exist on a personal level to you, and that's really all

All this is saying.

You are taking an imagination, an archetype of a person, of a of a deity, of a being, of a whatever, and instead of expressing that imagination outwardly to the toy or the doll or whatever you did when you're when you were a little kid, you are now incorporating that energy and you're wearing it literally as an armor. You're wearing it as the skin of that person. Like, I mean, that's that's dude. I think that this has to be right, Like it feels right to say it.

Oh yeah, and you know, and the one thing I wanted to say too is that you know, no matter what, we are all connected for sure, with only the illusion of division. That's all. That's all it is, dude. It's don't even trip, trip, don't even trip because you're already tripping, you know, right probably, So yeah, well, I guess we're going to get to the UH to the meditation here.

I don't know what meditation we're going to get to, but if you want to be able to listen to our uh our meditation and also be able to join us every Wednesday night for the Wonder Wednesday Show, you want to be able to slide into our dms. You want to be able to get the shows literally the day after they drop, instead of waiting four or five, six, seven days until they release on YouTube or on the

Along the way as well. Very beautifully said dude. And I just want to say one more thing, Dude, I love this shit, you know, I do love it. I do love it.

So yeah, I guess we'll wrap it up right there. We're going to get to the meditation. For those that are joining us on Patreon, just hang tight here for a minute. But if you can't join us on Patreon, or you haven't joined us on Patreon, then this is where we leave you. And what we like to say is that if why left the building and how came back home, and this is what it taught you, It's that you don't know what you don't know, So don't just get weird.

Stay weird.

Inside color soul stars, in.

The mysteries you find. Oh yeah, baby, that's where it's at.

You know.

I love that long one. Dude. That was great. Isn't there something a little more to that? You know you start to I don't know. For me, it felt like there were certain things, uh like illumination, you know, like it was kind of flickering and like getting a little brighter and then kind of dimming away. Like, I don't know, like I was observing some sort of light, you know, whatever you want to call that.

But you had to say illumination, didn't you. Yeah, of course, because I was legit just thinking. I was like, oh, that's funny I'm wearing so obviously I'll know. I have a conspiracy podcast. So this shirt I bought jokes and it's uh, it has an owl on it and it says Illuminati confirmed. Just gonna wear it to Brohemian Grove just to ruffle some feathers. But but I was just thinking at the end, I was like, oh, that's funny that,

I was just thinking, so weird really Yeah, yeah, dude, Like I said, those longer meditations, I feel like that's just when some of the strangeness starts to happen, you know, you start to detach and let go of this physicalness of it and just go into the illogical space, you know.

Alright, fucking with me right now. Were we thinking about the same things in this meditation or what?

I don't know, but go ahead, maybe, But I was just thinking, you know, not that I've got any answers or nothing like that. This is just more of a being in some sort of awe of the fact that we exist, at least in you know, within our own galaxy. It's one hundred thousand light years across. And so I mean, you can't even really fathom how how much of a distance traveling at the speed of light for one year, how far away that is. You just really can't understand

Yeah, that's that's all it's about, is just trying to get out there and see where you where your mind is capable of going, you know. And what's awesome about it is that you don't have any limitations when you're in meditation. There is no such thing as a limitation in a meditation. So you want to go out to a far far away galaxy or whatever, it's like, I mean, a light second is nothing, a light year, one hundred thousand light years doesn't matter, dude, that ship you traverse

Right right, and and and and I also thought about that too, like within the meditation, I was thinking, well, I mean, how far away from this galaxy do I even need to be to even have the full galaxy

You know.

You know what's funny too, is that stars I think in the Bible stars are called the illuminated ones. Oh right, of course. Yeah.

But I I also I wasn't thinking necessarily about that, or I didn't go to that place. But I was thinking about like the stars and stuff like that, and I was thinking about like so within like Mormonism. We've talked to like a bunch of different Mormons on the cult, right, okay, and the I believe I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that the Mormons believe that whenever they die, whenever they like go to heaven and stuff, that they

That is what I'm thinking.

Both, yeah, all three, but you would become your own star. And I was like, well, how how would that work with the understanding that we have now?

You know?

And I was just thinking, like, dude, I mean, you're wouldn't that ultimately be like a heavenly state? Like you don't have to go through any more obstacles, you don't have to learn anything more like there there is no more like good and bad and light and darkness. It's just that you are you literally become a light source yourself, and you are now shining in the darkness for anybody else that needs that guiding light.

You know, something that that that somebody or something would do when you get to that that stage of you don't need anymore. Now you just have enough to provide for others. You know what I mean. And so in then in a spiritual sense anyway.

I mean, you literally become that that frequency and that light. So you think about like people, uh like Nick for example, I always think about him whenever we're talking about the stars because he you know, the Pleiades and stuff like that, the Seven Sisters, and you know that light and you know, it's interesting.

It's in the Tourist constellation and it's it seems to be like almost.

Nothing whenever you're looking up because it's it's the faintest of it's literally like a like a cloud of stars because they're all they're all so close together, and so whenever they're whenever they're so close together like that, they almost they form like this blue light that gives off. And that's like, what's really awesome about the the Pleiades is that it's like a little blue light cloud structure.

And it's like this one.

Cloud of blue light that is working collectively together, right, And I was thinking, like what if those were individuals, you know what I'm saying, like an individual soul, an individual spirit, whatever you want to call it, right, yep? And and could that be what is communicating with Nick?

And if you think about it, you know, think about our star, it's nurturing, like it nurtures the earth, and the earth provides food for us and then we eat and and so you know, you look at it that way as far as it start putting off energy and almost like love, you know, and think about the messages that that Nick always receives. It's always having to do with you know, you are loved and you were you know what I mean? And so that that nurturing vibe, and I don't.

Know, it could be Yeah, it could definitely be something like that, which is an interesting thought. I almost want to do a little bit more research. But I was also thinking, you know, like, all right, if we're going to try this on for size and actually play with it to try and test it, maybe we're just crazy. Maybe we don't have any idea what we're talking about. Maybe we're living in fucking fantasyland, right.

I asked myself that all the time.

Yeah, I mean, the only way to find out is to try it, yeah, you know, and if it is real, you know, as if it is, and don't question it, just fully immerse yourself into it.

So how would that work? Well? And that's what I was thinking.

I mean, it just said, like, take a week and completely immerse yourself into the studying of any archetype at whatsoever. And the more information that you know, the more information that you can almost like latch onto and start to be that in body. Right, And so I was thinking, Man, I don't know, odin Loki, I don't want to do that.

Before, but.

I'm gonna do Archangel Michael. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I was just sitting there thinking like which one? And I was basically what I was whenever I'm in meditation. That's whenever like my I don't know, like my senses are working better. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like that that like gut feeling is so much more prominent inside of a meditation. And so I was just like literally filtering through my mind almost like it was a like a roll of dex of names kind of thing, or

All right, So you want to you want to look into him and look to see what he's all about us. So this is what I was thinking.

And so what we could do is is we can literally build a series off of this one anchor show, right and and every show for it doesn't have to be every show, but we can do like deep dives into specific archetypes, right, like, all right, let's let's try and you want to try and embody Archangel Michael. All right, We're gonna learn everything we can about him. I want to I want to take it from the Bible. I want to take it from the Gnostics. I want to take it from all the traditions of the East that

Whatever?

Right, And like I want to know the very beginnings of how this archetype was built into how it came to be you know what I'm saying, Oh absolutely, and just fucking know it all.

I'm with you. And you know what's cool is well, you know, as far as what we learn in this episode, you know, all of these archetypes are actually all parts of who we are.

You know.

I maybe I don't know for sure, but I feel like that that's true. You know, we all have those abilities, those capabilities, and so the more of those that we learn, in essence, I feel like we're learning more about ourselves, you know, because what's in here is out there, and you know, vice versa.

It's a mirror, it's a reflection, and that's it.

Yeah, dude, all right, I'm with it.

Wow.

That was awesome. Yeah.

And I was also thinking, like, uh so at first, I was, you know, because it said it was a God frequency. It's nine hundred and sixty three, which is the God frequency. And I was just like trying to bask in the frequency of God, right and imagining what it would like to what it would be like to be God, and so it was it was really weird visualization. And so and I was like, all right, well, take me on this journey. I want to see what it

I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting, you know.

I mean God formed Eve from one of Adam's ribs, right, so maybe that I don't know why, but anyway, then I was also thinking like Jonah in the whale. You know, Jonah was inside of this well, if you were be if you were to be inside of a whale, maybe you'd see like the rigid you know, top of the mouth that would kind of look like that. I don't know, I was just getting weird, but anyway, that's what I was I was experiencing. And I was like, I was like, all right, well, let me try and just get there.

I don't need to wait I'm just gonna be there, right, And.

Then I stumble upon this throne, right, and I'm getting ready to go up, and this throne has like what I would envision God would look like if it was a person, you know, and which basically kind of just goes back to my past life regression where I, you know, envisioned Odin was God or whatever, right, just because it's the archetype of the long hair and the long beard and the you know, the gray and the whites and

What am I supposed to do? And stuff like that.

And then dude, as I went to go ask like what what is my next step or whatever, my awareness shifted from being outside or from being in the body that I was in, to literally be being in the fucking throne as Odin.

Oh shit, yeah, And I was.

Just like, you know, it just reminded me of like, uh, Bam Margera from Viva Labam whenever it's like Bam mar Jara, what is he gonna do next? And then Bam, Margera pops up on a skateboard and he's like, whatever the fuck I want?

You know, I don't know.

It's just a weird thought that I had. And and so that's I was just like, well, I guess kind of whatever, I whatever I want to do.

I'm god, you know what I'm saying, right, there are no limits, there is no limitation.

I'm I'm and and it was just like, all right, well, now now that I'm encompassing like that kind of frequency, let me go through some aspects of my potential future and see how I think they're gonna work out.

So I started doing that.

I'm not gonna get too personal with it, but I was able to see like life unfold and it was unfolding beauty. It was just like, you know, I understood what mindset I had to be in to manifest the life that I wanted to have. And it was like, all right, you want to be good at this, or you want to be good at that, or you want life to go this way, you want.

Life to go that way.

It was showing me the frequencies that I needed to incorporate into myself in order to allow those things to happen. And so then I was thinking, did get even deeper?

Damn? How am I?

I don't even know how I remember all this because normally I can't remember all of it into meditation, but it was awesome. But then I was like, okay, so it kind of is like Jim Carrey then in a sense, because you know Jim Carrey, he played all these different roles and he played them all really well, and then he got to what was it, the man on the moon whatever that guy was, and then he was just like he became that guy and everybody knew that he was that guy, like he never jumped out of character

Know what to do.

And so it got me thinking, Dude, whenever I was a little kid, I and this is what I was trying to say earlier, but then I kind of veered off. Well, whenever I was a little kid, I used to be so suggestible, bro like, so suggestible. And so I would watch a movie and if especially if it was a movie that I really liked, dude, I shit you not. For the next hour after the movie, I was I had the mindset of my favorite character.

In that movie.

Mm hm did you ever feel that way?

Absolutely? I have a distinct memory of that. So we went to well back when it was like the Dollar Movie Theater. It was way back. I was like, maybe, oh shit, whatever, you're whatever, how over old I was when Mortal Kombat came out, okay, and we went and saw that, you know, and I came out and without

It was even more than that, though, because it was almost so like it felt so real and so magical that I mean, you didn't question why would you question it? It's like, why would you question if your name is Sean? Like that's how real it felt.

You know, you don't even feel silly about it. You know, when you're a kid, you don't be like You're not like, oh, I shouldn't act like this because that's kind of silly, and like, you know what I mean, I shouldn't be doing that. You're just walking out there throwing the spirit, you know what I mean.

Well, first off, you wouldn't think that it was silly because it was your favorite character in the movie anyway, And usually your favorite character in the movie is somebody who you would probably aspire to be. Which if if it's somebody you aspire to be, then it must be really cool. And if you think it's really cool, then you'd probably think everybody else would think it would be really cool, right, so you wouldn't even question it. And

To see that. I was like ten. That was a mistake. Probably they did not know what they.

Yeah, because it was like at the in the drive in movie theaters, you would always see two movies. It's two movies, yeah, and so you'd normally go for one, and then if the first one starts out cool, then maybe you'd stick around for it. But you normally go just for the one movie that you really wanted to see, right, And so they decided to stick around for American Pie.

It was the later show.

And so but I was so suggestible because I used to love Stiffler, like I thought he was fucking to make sense, I know. I used to think he was so awesome, that he was so funny, he was just the man, right, and and it's funny to see like how my life panned out after being so suggestible by that it's making sense now, yeah, yeah, track, But it's more than that. Even as a little kid, I would do I was. I believed that being Matilda was real, you know what I'm saying, like being able to levitate

And and dude, even we weren't the only we weren't the only kids trying to move ship with our mind after watching Matilda, fuck you know, or any movie like it.

Right, right, and even like like The Iron Fist, Dude, you got to watch that.

It is so good. It's on It's on Disney. Yeah, so good.

But it's all like it's it's just this guy who literally like meditated himself into another realm.

He's a superhero.

He meditated himself into another realm where he was learning from like these monks, and these monks were teaching him how to like harness his chi, right, and so his chi, you know, depending on what was going on in his life, his chi would either be really strong or not existent, right, but his chi was so powerful and he was able to harness it into his fist, and so he became

He meditates into another realm.

I mean, you had me there, bro, He meditated into a place that doesn't exist in this reality.

I'm watching it, dude, and and somehow came back with powers abilities. Yeah, I know, kung fu, you know. Yeah.

I think there was like there was like two seasons or whatever, but it came out with whenever the first seasons of The Punisher and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage and Daredevil and all that came out because they were they were the Defenders or whatever.

I'm a super Marvel dork, but I don't know.

I just think that God, I just love that kind of stuff so no, I.

Really, I really love what you've been saying, dude, And in a sense, I think I think it's right man, you know, I mean, how else are you going to become the version of yourself or a version of something that you want to be without putting all of your energy and trying to figure out what that person would do? You know? And sometimes I think about you know, basketball players, like just to use the example I used earlier, you know, as far as when they're at the free throw line.

And oh yeah, dude, even as like even whenever I was a little kid, like my dad would tell me these like these like little sayings, and and they always stuck with me, like work smarter, not harder kind of thing, which is kind of how I how I've kind of built my life with that. But yeah, yeah, and but he would also say, so I grew up playing football, you know that. And but whenever I was younger, he used to always say this one thing, and and it never really made sense to me until I became a

Right, And I used to think, what the fuck does that? What do you mean by that?

I didn't understand it at the time, And then whenever I finally understood it, I was like, Oh, this is some flow state shit that he didn't even know he was saying, you know what I mean.

And go unlock some abilities, man, when you're not even having to try that hard exactly. We're just riding the wave, man.

Yeah, which you know, I would say that he was ninety percent right then if you think about it, got him, got him?

Oh man, God, I love this episode, and yeah, it's it's one of my favorites. Bro.

Three hours and eleven minutes. This is one of our longer ones.

Oh shit, I'll take it, man. It needed it, you know it needed that air to breathe. Man, you know, because I feel like this episode, I feel like not to say that we are correct, I'm not even gonna say that. What I'm gonna say is that we did something right, you know what I mean? And I feel like this was one of those episodes that can be very beneficial. So I'm glad we did it. Man. Yeah.

And it's not about being right or wrong. I don't think like that's that's a full on that's a dualistic dichotomy that only yet only exists like in this reality, in this universe. It's the dualism. But ultimately where there is things that vibe and there's things that don't, and whether it vibes or whether it doesn't, that's all that matters. Do what you hear tonight vibe with you?

Did you like it?

Do you feel like you could apply it to your life? Does it make things make more sense? The answer is yes. Then you can call it truth, you can call it real, you can label it whatever you want. That's it doesn't require labels.

That's it beautiful man, seful episode, dude. If I may say so, thank you, sir. I enjoyed it all right.

The one Hopefully you guys enjoyed it as well, and uh, we'd love you and we'll see on the flip side, that.

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