Deplorable Cult Nation: Wretched Religious Rites/Rituals with Heidi Luv

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People say and do some very strange things, but you know, we can't fault them, or can we, because could they be part of could they be part of some something something We're gonna do about strange things today? So weird, Yeah, it did get very weird. So, ladies and gentlemen, today we're discussing wretched religious rites and rituals, and sometimes people who are in these religions don't see a problem with

Yeah, things the Golden Bough will help people understand this, or a book called The Dying God, and those are both amazing books that will help people some I understand some of the stuff we're going to cover today because.

Yeah, yeah, like where are you coming from? And where did these things come from? So first we're going to kind of do a broad overview of the topics that we're going to cover, and then we're going to break them down a little bit further to make it hopefully make a little bit more sense to people. So there's a lot a lot in this. So the first one we're going to talk about is rituals of self harm for purification purposes. So if you want to still here and fresh as a daisy, you might want to follow

Yeah it looks like an O for me, I mean.

Yeah, I think I will pass with the the looks like a cat of nine tails. If anybody's in the fetish community and knows what that is that has little like starspikes, Yeah, little barbs on it to like cut your skin and open. So that's a thing. So along with flagellation, cutting, burning or whipping to cleanse your sin. Ye that we're only that easy, right.

If you can't whip yourself, say, say you don't want to whip yourself, you can have somebody do it for you.

Well, you could have somebody do it for you. Then again that could be part of the fetish realman, are there people who enjoy that, Yes, along with several of the other things that we're going to be touching on today.

So time to me.

You know, I love you, but we're not getting together so we can flagellate each other.

No, And it doesn't even sound right, does it.

So he's a this is not my kind of thing. But extremistsects sect not sex. Had to clarify that since I met you. Fetish medieval penitent brotherhoods and some modern underground movements use that as well as the Finnish community too. Uh So, where's the line really between the spiritual repentance and trauma programming? Because that's a real thing and they can use trauma programming to further create an obedient class of citizens.

Right, I think angels to knock you out or something knock you out. That that brings a whole another meaning.

Doesn't it does. So now we have blood offerings and ritual consumption, animal sacrifice, drinking or marking with blood. Hello, Hillary Clinton, I didn't say anything because you didn't see my mouth moved, or symbolic cannibalism, Okatie Harry. Some groups

That's a tear and blood. And you know, don't ask questions about why these are red. You know the answer.

So what are we looking at?

These are kicks of light and these are the Krollian cakes of light, and so just like yeah, so gross, first of all, gross, Second of all, I don't want to eat these ever, I'm good, Yeah, no, I.

Didn't they make these with period blood.

They do with all semen, period blood, regular blood, all kinds of blood. It's bad. I have it for me.

And again you can have it like a snack and put some peanut butter on it.

Casts past paths, so you guys.

Have it all?

Is this an actual covenant or control mechanism or both? Uh? And ingesting human tissue of any kind? What does that say for you? And what do you become when you do partaking that?

And I don't want any of it.

Just saying there are secret societies who do that.

So I just want people to zoom in on this lovely Joseph Smith and his animal sacrifices. You might not have known about it, but it happened.

So huh that part of that religion. I wonder if it's part of other religions as well.

Hmm.

So how about ritual drugging masquerading as sacred anointing, which we already did a whole show on that. So again with the intoxicast the hallucinogenics, we're toxic substances in the name of communion, prophecy or blessings from the spirit also passing. So what do we got there.

Oh, you know all the fun things that people like to do, some acid, ecstasy, morning glory seeds, DMT magic mushrooms, and the old Payot have done a couple of these, which I know sounds crazy. I would not do the mushroom. I got drugged with ecstasy once. Yes you heard me, drugged, not took the drug. And I did do peodi and

You were at the universe.

Yeah yeah. Still when that song no no, no, no, it's a popular you know, that's zombie something people know. I don't know what the name of it is, but uh, yep, as soon as that song comes on, I'm like, that was fun.

Flashback.

Yeah, that was a good time.

So outside of the partying with the forbidden substances, we have forced confession, public shaming, and identity stripping.

You mean confession like like particular, how about how about.

A forced confession in public after anointing oil and then he got sent on his journey of a loneeness.

Oh oh, that could be a thing too. So people declare their sins publicly. Sometimes they make them shave their head. That would be weird for me. I can't imagine myself bald. They replace their names with something else, and they either remove or alter their garments, and so cults use this to break ego and rebuild loyalty to the church leadership or the cult leadership. And it's basically consent through humiliation techniques.

And so I did get my hair shaved, but I did get new underwear and a new name after doing some things that broke my ego.

Well, I was gonna say, there's somebody else that I know that is part of a different religion, that they each have a day and church where they go up and they literally have to confess all of their sins and whatever and get publicly shamed. And that is a form of quote unquote public repentance for your past.

We've got to make it all known to the people behind the curtain so that they will.

Yeah, and see, that's the thing. Like me, I'm in an open book. People have heard my testimony a lot, and I guess mine is public too, but it's by choice because you can't hurt me, right, I would rather out myself and exactly, there's no there's no shame in my past because my past makes me who I am.

So whatever, we all have the things and so yeah, yeah, I like this.

Yeah I read that slide because that's important little picture.

There we go. How everything on the internet became a humiliation ritual. And you know this whole thing with Diddy. The more I studied this, like okay, the oil and the jokes about it, they made fun of him and then you know, he had to say his things out loud. When he made his plea and then now he's being sanctioned to a loneness.

Well, and how about like the basketball stars or whatever that wear dresses out in public or for photo op or something like that. It's kind of like that humiliation ritual in public, right because you know that these people would never wear a dress or carry a purse in a million years.

The worst one I saw was poor Will Smith's son, because he seemed like it was very much against his will. Yeah, will against as well as exactly and right, like when you unrobe a priest, they're wearing ah mm hmm, frock. This came from an article saying, uh, disrobing the priest with these humiliation or tools. So yeah, it's a.

Thing, and that is definitely a thing. Like even in the Catholic Church they do this. Yes, so people probably don't haven't looked at it that way, but that's exactly what it is. And and a lot of ceremony around the renaming, even like in Indian cultures and whatever, like you're you're given like an Indian name instead of like whatever your parents named you at birth. We have a mutual friend that, uh, this is a thing for them.

So one hundred percent. You get a new name in the temple as well that you did not receive from your parents. And you know, if you look this up, if you look up the right of degradation, this will go over the defrocking, and if you look up some of these other rights as well, they'll talk about the renaming. But this actually was hard, hard to find. I had to actually put it into AI because it didn't like it very much.

So what does that say?

So this as an ecclesiastical history. The right of degradation, also known as defrocking unfrocking, is a formal ceremony used to remove a member of the clergy from the clerical state as punishment for grave offenses, and so they'll literally defrock them in front of everyone. Like you were saying about, you know, confessing in front of everybody. Yeah.

Interesting. So you have mentioned the rights of isolation, but they also do sensory deprivation, so days or weeks in darkness, silence, confinement, or the wilderness designed to trigger quote visitations, ego collapse, or dependency on leadership, ship interpretation. So not only in a religious or cultish sense, but the thing that I also thought of is, you know, like UH. In the eighties and nineties when the wilderness camps for trouble, Yeah,

Oh people died, Like it did not end until people start dying. And it was ran by the Mormons based upon the theology and design of UH Hitler with an H though.

Yeah, yeah, so interesting that that was part of UH stuff. But likeil that was super big in the eighties and nineties, and there's literally tons of documentaries about that stuff.

And shout out wixle on, who uh sent me that? From X As far as the behind the scenes where they got the theology. Also, don't forget they send, you know, young people out to find themselves, you know, to become.

A man, right, And that was very common even in like Native American traditions and stuff like that, where you had to go out alone and isolate yourself. Or in terms of modern day, how about all the isolation that they did during the scamdemic, right and isolate by yourself. You had to excommunicate basically from your loved ones. You couldn't visit them, you couldn't see them in a nursing

And here's the thing. We're not saying anything bad about these rights and practices. These are sacred to a lot of people.

We're just explaining them a right, just a different side to the coin. And that's why I said at the beginning of the show, some people that are involved in this are not not going to see it as a bad thing. And other people on the outside are going to question, and that may be where the disconnect is because people on the outside don't get why you're doing what you're doing that exactly what you do. So exorcisms

Absolutely so is.

It spiritual deliberance or is it a medically dangerous power ritual power grab control?

Just saying, be careful of the dotted line if it comes in a really weird redpin. Just a.

So, how about child involvement in dark covenants? So children sworn into spiritual roles, married symbolically to deities, or marked in covenants they cannot comprehend, found historically and modern in secret sex and societies. And so how about the series on the cults that we did and how children were married or taken by the cult leader or whatever. And a lot of times all the children were taken by the cult leader because they believed that later to be divine of something, and they believe in.

The blood rights, Yeah, especially if you're the first kid. Yeah.

So how about sexual rights for transcendence? Yeah, sex magic you mean yeah, I was just gonna say this may or may not have come up in our conversation before the show today. So we have temple prostitution, ritualized abuse, or the quote sacred union ceremonies justified as divine connection or spiritual unlocking.

And so.

Think about all of the occult societies that I'm sure you've talked about in the past, and I've talked about in the past with several different people where this is a thing. And you even like in the Masons, where you can't you can't transcend or go to another level unless they do the sexual embarrassment rights and compromising positions and sexual things and all of the stuff to get you to the next level.

And so.

This also, like we talked about before the show, is in some of the religious denominations, especially down in the South.

And don't think the Pilgrims don't know how to party, because apparently they did.

They did. They knew how to throw a party. And it looks like a BJ party.

It was a fun time, they said, just saying.

So fire and pain trials as a test of faith. So walking on hot holes holding flames, branding hello, Nixium cult.

Related to the Mormons.

Endurance of injury without crying out, And so not only like in the nixium thing, or not only were they branding you as belonging to the leader, but that you were supposed to wear that brand as a bdge of honor.

I'm just saying, auci.

Yeah, Like, uh, she has a picture of firewalkers up where they walk across like hot coals or whatever.

And.

You know, uh, mind over matter a lot of times is very beneficial, especially if you're in poor health or whatever. But the burns that you would sustain to your feet doing something like that on a regular basis, I cannot imagine.

You send yourself on fire never seems like a good idea to me. Yeah, well, she doesn't seem to mind.

Neither does flatulation. But uh, and that is not the same as flatulation, folks, very different things. Although hot boxing your partner is not a great idea unless you know you're really mad you're trying to get back at him or something.

Apparently, So how.

About rituals of position and trance? So participates can vols speak in unknown languages or surrender bodily control. I've actually seen videos of this out in the streets in the United States here recently, which is somewhat disturbing to me.

And so I think it's weird that this guy looks like James String over here, because this is an old picture.

That is a very old picture. This is like the era that I grew up in picture but.

Very tranced up here. Probably the drugs, but that's just a reincarnation of the Mormon James String. And for anybody that was one or new one or whatever, that's funny.

So, and what puts these people in a trans like state? Is it just meditation? Did they give them something? Was it anointing oil? Or are they all taking LSD or something?

These guys the twirling whirlers oh.

Or whirling dervish yep. So is it a divine encounter or is it something demonic? Are you being possessed when you're in this translate state? When you're speaking in another language? I mean, there is such thing as speaking in tongues, but that's literally a guy given gift. But Satan knows the same tactics, so can he do the exact same exactly?

And these guys, I don't think they prescribed to the devil's oil. We're gonna call it that some of the devil's let us, right, the devil's oil, because you know, well it might be you never know, never know, so psychiatric.

I was going to say, is this disassociation? Is it psychosis or is it a true spiritual experience? One never knows? And Satan's the great deceiver, So what's really happening?

I don't know, so we don't claim to know that.

No, the next one is creepy af to me and hello, but no ritual burial, mock death and rebirth. Okay, great, I get the point behind it. But that's why Christ died for your sins, right.

Don't you really want to be born again Janet.

Through the skull and bones?

No?

Not so that's not really not really so being buried alive, wrapped as a corpse, drowned or treated as dead to the world, and so you're supposed to be re emerging as a new identity and bound to a group. If you try to bury me, I'm afraid the you know what out.

Yeah, it doesn't sound like a good time, even with the masturbation. I just yeah, I don't know.

I'm just so, did you say masturbation?

Oh you didn't know? Oh yeah, Yeah. They don't get buried alone. They have a friend and they you know, practice their ecstasy while they confess there since too, and then they get any name, doesn't that sound?

And then and then they yeah no, no, uh and just no. I think I will take a hard pass on this one.

No, thank you.

So how about rights that use fear as the doctrine. We've talked about that a lot, so End with the World ceremonies.

Hello.

Cult series that we did, uh forced salvation contracts, which was what was that group the one that thought the end of the world was coming and they were oh yes, the Nike group at the heaven Skates skate Yeah, Heaven's Gate group.

But if you're gonna get serious, you have to be like them and you have to cut your dick off.

So I'm just saying, right, and then we're wear tracksuits and Nikes and Nikes.

So so.

The salvation contracts, rituals re enacting judgment, torment or the apocalypse.

Sounds exactly like the early Mormons and the String Heights. They all did that too, and it was the end was coming. They had all their stuff and form the Order of Enoch or the Halcion Illuminati. Fun time.

Yeah. So if somebody tells you to give up all of your stuff because you can belong to their church or their group, uh, you might want a question. I'm just saying, do you really want to belong that much to a group you don't really know that much about. I'm just saying, So, how about symbolic covenants that replace consent with destiny and so you don't choose the vowel, the vow chooses you, so sit to participation is framed

And Warren jeff'son Joseph Smith, and you know.

Great documentaries on those as well. So rituals that weaponize scripture. Hello, organized religion, don't care which one you are versus spoken spoken like incantations or spells, Biblical language used to justify harm, submission or chemical ingestion. And so I wasn't thinking along the lines of those kind of things. But I was thinking along the lines of the couple churches that we went to in the past where the preacher said things from the pulpit like if you don't do what I say,

So that's another Maybe maybe he knew Joseph Smith and he became a god.

Maybe or and you know there there's other ones. Think about all the all the celebrities and stuff that call themselves gods, like Charlemagne the God, you know, and that's a big thing, and all the you know, all the vice Harris went on there and like all these people go on there. Anybody that could considers themselves god? I mean, sorry, don't need you in my wheelhouse.

Ye, no, not good.

Don't need you in the wheelhouse. But I will meet you in the outhouse. How about that? There you go, you can take that to the bank. So how about rights that merge spirituality with state and institutional power ju United States government? So the church blessing the empire, medicine blessing the mandate, Hello code, or clergy declaring obedience to

You wanted to be a good global citizen and go get the cure if you were called by the prophet.

Let's not forget one hundred percent. So that's just like a very brief overview of stuff. Now we're going to get into some nitty gritty and the places that use some of these cuckoo could chew things. So how about photo are proto priesthoods or pre state societies. So these are people like shamans, elders, medicine people, diviners, and often the only figures that believed to be able to move

I get the food, but the toilet paper, Come on, people.

Right, Death and disease was also things that they feared. And so these shamans or figureheads often claimed to have access to invisible causes, and so they could literally point out to people, you know that you're the reason why everyone in town is starving. It's because you did something bad.

You mean, you killed grandma.

You might have killed grandma if you didn't get forced mandate or coerced into getting the grandma here just saying so early rituals for these groups, these are really gross scarification. So they would permanently scar you twoth or removal oh, because what is it about your teeth that made them have famine? I don't know, Uh, circumcision or genital marking. So not just circumcision, but they could literally cut a design into your we woo if they wanted to, and

The vatient is the one that it wouldn't let me download. Speaking of blood letting, y'all need to see this one.

Please describe this shit.

Yeah, so this is the right of the Vattienti during the holy week before Easter in Verbicaro near Cosenza, the annual right of the Vatiani, the Flagelence takes place traced back to the Middle Ages. The flagelence, not flatulance. Flog themselves to the front of the thighs until they draw their blood as a sign of devotion and leave the blood trails on the doors and walls of the village. And then they bring Jesus out. And then they got their kid on a leash so he can you know, see well and.

Look at that kid. This is creepy. And so the kid is dressed all in red and is carrying a cross that is all in red with cat and nine tails on.

The end of Yeah, it's that, you know.

It doesn't seem.

It doesn't seem good. I don't know. But the other pictures of this that wouldn't come through, And the reason why it wouldn't come through is because they were carrying it's right behind this, the statue of Mary and Jesus and stuff behind it. Mm hmmm, Yeah, it didn't come through.

There was in all of these groups, that the all the people. This is how these Red crosses are all wearing red. This as a man instead of a boy dressed in a red toga carrying a red cross.

How much you want to bet he's still a boy and he's just under eighteen? I bet you the red I bet. I don't know this for sure, but I'm betting the Red ones. I bet they're under eighteen. Just the thought, just the thought. These guys are in ballet suits, by the way, just so you all.

Know, well, and here think of this, Okay, So this these guys are literally boring blood into the streets and they're putting it like all over buildings and you know, marking all these places in town. Now, if blood were as dangerous as what we're led to believe, would this be allowed to go on?

Or maybe it is and they just don't give it, you know what. But I'll tell you what. I think this is a bad damn plan. I know that much all the way around. I don't think God likes this. First of all. Yeah, there's only certain gods that do like this, and I don't think it's the.

God, right, but these are gods with a small g yeah, this is what they need. So the next one is ancient tribal covenant societies and so these were like early Semitic tribes, African tribal regions Anddigenous American nations and early Indo European clans and so these usually involve clan elders, covenant keeper lineage priests, interesting bloodline authorities, and so the early rituals focused on blood as belonging right, so you got to shed your blood to be part of the group.

I just would like to let people know how the original garments. There's the mark on the knee of the original garments and a mark on the breast and different places. And you know how those marks used to be put on was they would cut them. They would cut them, why they wore them and then you take them home later and sew them. Yeah, there's that.

Hard pass, hard pass on that as well. Although I will say, ladies, if you wear a brawl that is underwire and it comes out of the side and pokes you or poke you in between the boobs, you may be having a ceremonial moment right if it drills blood. So during these early times, in these ancient tribal covenant societies, why infancy mattered. Infants could not resist or re interpret things, and so that was left up to the elders to interpret everything for everyone. Uh, the body could be claimed

Especially your firstborns. Yeah, firstborn sons extra special, special. And you might all want to look at the people that fall into these weird religions and see if their firstborn kids just you know, passed away.

Sacrifice stillborn. So these rituals created an irreversible narrative in everybody's mind. And this is where the the template forms that belonging is decided before birth. So if you have a society that is claiming you as their own or whatever instead of you being able to be an individual. You might want to rethink your membership.

Just saying, well, the Mormons have the royal line, one royal line on there. If you could see the little star, it would say from this line Kingsville Rule. I wonder who was in that line, Joseph Smith was? And why is genealogy so damn important to them? I don't know. Maybe because they believe they'll make these people rulers.

Well, and that's the thing is that said bloodline authorities is part of this, you know, ancient tribal covenant societies, and so the bloodlines and stuff that we talk about on a normal basis here or in current times, this has been going on for a very long time. Where they're rearranging or claiming or marking or whatever. Why do you think they do testing for rh factors and stuff like that and genetics and whatever. They're looking they're looking for specific people.

And this is old, Like I bring up the Mormons, but they're just a reincarnation of an older cult, right and so yeah, just so you guys know, yep.

And so the next one is temple economies or early civilizations and so these involved like the Samerians, the Egyptians, the Acadians, and early Canaanites, so hello biblical times. And these involved temple priests, astronomer priests, sacrificial officials, and scribal classes. And so the rituals became darker when the temples controlled the food, medicine calendars. Hello calendar changes that we see nowadays. And labor ritual compliance means survival access and so if

Or do you want to clarify? I know this is supposed to be Jesus, but if you look up old Mormon theology they say they have a different Jesus.

So cli, yeah, So humans became offerings, workers or vessels, which is very true. And they did sacrifice human beings, and they did force labor camps and you know, take people prisoner and make them build temples and you know, all of that kind of stuff. And so beginning rituals now days include temple initiations, hillu, secret societies, sexual rights, who woo again, blood sacrifices, who good? Hello, cakes of life.

It does.

And so the shift the ritual moved from spiritual encounter to administrative control. And that's when like, don't question us because we speak to the gods we know best. Don't question science because science is the god. Right, sound familiar, modern day.

So, and it all pours in from the olden days to the modern days because anything new.

No, but these things didn't just appear over night. They've been around very very long time. Because man is inherently evil and we are inherent sandfull. And what if people can need manipulation and control and power.

Right, apparently they need their dicks cut off. I don't know.

Self casting well ow, just me. I feel for the men and their member units.

Yeah, they used to put a little bead in there so that they could still piss. So there's that.

Oh, well, there you go. Well I'm out. Times have changed and now we do it all the time. So why do we do it all the time to babies? Is it ritualistic? Are you following one of these old societies? What is the reason for circumcising a baby?

And why did the Bible mention over and over and over over and over and over and over theajillion times about not passing your children through the fires and the log And why do we still do it either sancremoniously or actually depending on what weird culture may have been. Then, I don't know.

I'm not yet so expand on that for people? What does that do?

Oh? You know, right after children are born in the LDS Church, we do something called the blessing where they give it a name and they register onto you know, the church logs name and a blessing and they all form a big circle, bring their hands to the square and rock the little baby as they say all the things. But it's really important that you do it when they're tiny. They'll see these little, tiny, tiny babies, right, And I dare say it's ceremonial of something else that's old days,

Why do we do it?

We have to look at these things. And I'm not saying like, okay, if we looked at everything, pretty much everything we do is pretty sins honestly.

And I just had this discussion with somebody today and like, if you want to have a Christmas tree or whatever, that's fine. What the thing is is your intent behind it. Because it talks about in the Bible, especially in John where he talks about you know, if you don't want to eat meat that was ordained for a sacrifice, that's up to you. If you're convicted of the Holy Spirit that that's bad. However, if your spirit doesn't convict you

I think that it's really important when we talk about these cults and all of these different brotherhoods, because there's so many and even you know, like I say about Mormonism, and we joke and jes but like if you've seen the temple with Maroni, okay on top of it, it's a damn ringer for this, okay, and I can show it here in a minute. But the God of Aeros, right, and what is this representing? What does this have to do with anything? This is all about sexual rights, which

You're just doing it to do it, so at least doing it out of repetitiveness from things that your family has done for generations, and so you do the same exact thing, even though.

Because why you're doing it make it I told you to. Yeah, I mean, like, here's the thing, like you said, at least if you decipher what it means, which is the whole point of my whole podcast always is deciphering the meaning behind things so that you can have a mentality of this is just.

A tree and this is that's even point, it's the intent behind it. Yep.

Yeah, even Saint Nick I told my kids on Christmas because somebody said, well, that's not real and we shouldn't tell people that, and I said he was real. He was the patron saint of prostitution. You might want to look it up. Why we give gifts? Doesn't that mean I'm going to stop giving gifts?

Wait? What kind of what kind of gift did he give?

He did? He would this is real apparently supposedly whatever, But apparently he threw money down women's chimneys, in these little bags of money so that the women that couldn't get married because you needed a dowry could get married. So he was a patrons sate of prostitutes. He didn't want them to go be prostitutes, right, And do I think that sinister? No? Do I think what they've done now could be sinister? Well, and Bullah did a great job in the fifties taking that shit over man like.

And that's the thing is, And this is the same for symbols and signs and stuff like that that we see nowadays. That means this now, But when it originated, it wasn't meant to be something evil. So it is literally the intention behind it. So are the powers that be putting the negative intention on something because they know that it's evil the way that they twisted it. Yes, absolutely, but doesn't mean it has to be evil for you. No, No, I mean butterfly. It just means to me it's God's

Well, because they're hijacking that too. That's as as I came awake, I was like, oh my gosh, I don't even know how to pray, because then Lord is bad and this and that and and I had an existential crisis really, and then at some point you have to understand that God knows your heart, and if your heart is inherently good with good intentions, and you're not doing whirdo Freemason kisses. I'm not saying they're kissing that I've done this. This happens.

He's slipping a little.

There's no kissing on the side there, but you're so close in the temple when you do this that literally they had to quit doing it a certain kind of way because there was too many Boners, So you tell me if that seems like a great idea. I don't want to be in that embrace with anybody but one guy, because I really like him. He lives here. He's not here right now. That's my husband, you know. And I just think we have to step outside of ourselves because

Right, And you know what it is. If something that we that we say offends someone, that means that it awakens something in you that irritated you. So there's something inside of you that you need to look at because we're just saying words and we're telling you just facts behind stuff, and like, do what I want to do a lot of these things. Do I want to go

And I'm sorry, but that that photo I showed you right before of that angel arrow, okay, God, it's a dead ringer. And ps, this is supposed to be an angel too, Ron, I'm supposed to be angel, you know, don't have any wings? Like, who the hell are you talking to when you're channelling people? Stop it unless you want to, Like, if you want to talk to spooky guys, cool, quit telling people that it's, you know, an angel, Like that's silliness. John d told us all about it, said

Yeah, And those are decisions for you to make. Like if you're knock yourself heartedly, you know, head over heels, in love with whatever faith or whatever cult or whatever, that is up to you. That's your decision, absolutely, and why support that?

You know what, you can go do cakes of light all day, But like, let's tell the truth about it so people can make an informed decision, just like about medication, like Janet talks about.

So, so the next one is mystery cults using controlled revelation. And so these were like, uh, the Illusian ministries, uh, the Diasonian cults, orphics, and the Methraism and so uh these were involved with priest secret hierarchies, uh, tiered access leaders.

So it still looks the funnest I was.

I was going to say, this actually looks pleasant compared to a lot.

Of the things since naked in the forest.

Right, they're prancing around with trees and animals. That sounds like me, I'll go jump out naked and more wick.

Yeah, but some of this stuff seems great at first, just like the temple, and then you get into some we right you're like, ah, what are we slicing throats for? But not really, We're just kidding.

Well, and you're not wrong, because you know what made these groups very powerful was their knowledge of the hidden Hello nowadays too, Uh. Revelation was staged. I think a lot of stuff is staged. Experience was engineered. I believe that would be true pretty much as well.

I have one comment on this god. If he's a god, if he's a god, why doesn't he get a bigger. I mean.

He has he has a micropene and for six pack abs.

And I feel really bad for him because wow sad.

Anyway, keep going, sorry about your wien, Sorry about that, God, Sorry, God guy. So the beginning rituals included hey, darkness, bear fasting, drumming, symbolic death, and the dramatic rebirth. And say, you might experience something that was highly profound you, but you were not allowed to interpret your experience. Only these leaders were.

But you don't know what you're doing, Janet, Well, dumb girls, we're girls, silly, silly, dummy head you what about the man haters? That's why listen?

You know well, and you know there are a lot of groups out there, whether it be cultish societies or whatever, that do not like women. However, and a lot of societies women are necessary because we're what what do we? What do they need us for?

We have the living waters and they.

They need our feminine energy, do they not? So they will.

Tolerate worshiped, not tolerated worships.

Well, they will tolerate in a lot of instances, in a lot of societies, they will tolerate females and use you or manipulate you when they need to to get that feminine energy.

For its probably because they have oh no, no, a micro wiener.

But it's true, is it not true? Does that not happen? Then there's a lot of societies that are like that, a lot of cultish societies that you know, like will put up with you and tolerate you, but only so they can use you and manipulate you when they need to be able to get what they need to from you. And then your second class.

What did the cult eaters always collect women?

Always all of them, every single one of them.

The Warren Jeffs claim and Joseph Smith Brigham Young he had like fifty five wives. By the way, I'm pretty sure it had a micro penis because he didn't produce the children he should have. He was slacking either that or he just sucked at his job. I don't know, but they all do.

I mean, because even like I mentioned the Branch Davidians earlier, all of the cults, the children of God, like all of that stuff there, it was necessity for them to have so many women.

Yes, And it was always you know, the divine feminine back in the day and the energy of the masculine together right, but then it became very patriotical and got weird.

So that's very true. So sacrificial states believed in cosmic obligation systems. Interesting, so these were like Aztec, the Mayans, the Incas, Phoenician culture in uh, the Karthian systems.

And so this is the Venetian one state.

Well, and look there's swastika.

I'm gonna get us kicked off. I'm sorry it was, but it's an eyeball. It's an eyeball, and he's got bloodshot ice.

Right, that's what it is. And and you know, looking at it, it looks like swastikas. But that's another thing. Like I said earlier that back in the day, this symbol was not a swastika. That was it was rebranded to something else. But it was meant as a unintentional, harmless thing, right.

It was. It was a good thing actually, and they flipped it. If you notice, it looks a little strange when you because actually he did it on purpose to make it darker and so and it does look like an eyeball on purpose, and and all of these cults I think they do have you know, this is the Mormons again, and they talked about colob just so people know this was real. It's not a Heidi stupid shit whatever.

Well, there are people today that practice what we're going to talk about, because, like I said, this was your cosmic obligation and you believe basically that the cosmos is what rules that. It's not God, it's the cosmos that's in charge of things. And so these were cut.

Off my cool Mayan calendar because of.

Course it did, because why would we have problems with downloads?

Gosh, it is just the bane of my existence occasionally, right and mind yeah, I keep going, I'm going to look for it.

So we have this. These were state shan, state sanctioned priest warrior, priest, astral interpreters hello, astral theology huh or divine kings, and so their core belief was that the universe requires payment of some sort, and so beginning rituals taught that life is owed blood is currency. Obedience sustains reality, and resistance threatens existence.

And so.

This creates a little dangerous logic and their little pea brains where violence is not evil, it's necessary to keep the cosmos and the stars happy.

Well, it's not going to pull it. I guess we're stuck without it.

So then we move onto the monastic esthetic orders, and these are things like early Buddhists, the Jain culture, Christian desert fathers, and Hindu sex. And it was esthetic masters, spiritual lineages, disciples under vowels, and so rituals emphasized renunciation, interesting identity stripping, name changes, isolation, and extreme discipline. And so the difference from sacrificial cults was that in this

If you don't want to conform, you're not going to be in the club. Still the same I mean.

Everywhere pretty much. And so your disappearance as an individual became your holiness. And so if you are a group think person, then you would be holy.

Agemt What group thing people can you think of? In Germany did some bad shit. It never ends well, So I can kind of see some remans of this also, I do want to put this clarification out there. I do know the other side of that story, and I'm not one hundred percent sure of that, but everybody knows that narrative. So that's what right. And so.

When you think that you are you and your individual and that you're unique and God created you as a unique, then it's easier for them to adjustify abuse on you because they have to beat that individuality out of you.

So I did all the men have beards because a man's face looks extremely similar to another man's face. If they have beards, it's it's just, I mean, it hides a lot of your features. It really does. Have long hair and have to be required to wear a headdress.

Yeah, one hundred and so that's why I said there are remnants of this that I still think exists today and a lot of society's corners, yeah whatever, where you all have to be like identical carbon copy. Everybody has to think the same, act the same, be the same.

The same way. Yeah. Not, I just took some screens. I'm not picking on these people. I'm just saying, like, these are just ones that I grabbed really quick because are the same.

And this is true because it's like, uh, like think about monks and whatever. They they all wear the same kind of garb. They all have a shaved head. You know, he do that stuff?

Does this one look like the Mormon outfit? Oh?

Well? The only thing I have to say is I wonder if he's wearing his magical under roosts. I mean most likely because looky, looky, you know, I want to know what is the grain pouch thing for?

Oh yeah, that's actually their Masonic apron, but it's it's leaves. They're the leaves from the.

Garden of Eden.

There to hydro nakedness.

And you know, even though they're locked in.

The next mystery colt and we're not a mystery cult, but we do all the mystery cult things. It's totally fine. Okay, well, I don't even care. If everybody wants to be in a mystery cult, that's fine, go do it. Go you go do this one, Go do the shaved head one. I don't care. I don't care, but quit lying to people. Quit telling grandma's this is about going to heaven, because people get buried in the shit. Not funny then, like come on.

Yeah, one hundred percent. It's again the intention behind stuff. And so what is the intention behind that, I'm just saying.

Yeah, exactly.

So early Abrahamic covenant authorities, so this was like early Judaism, early Christianity and Islam, and so they have covenant mediators, priest rabbis, bombs, law interpreters, and moral authorities. And so the early stages we had the circumcision, ritual circumcision, but.

The way we do it now so they don't suck on it, but sometimes they don't. Don't let people do that.

I'm just saying coming from a facility where we did circumcisions and are off too. This was not at the hospital, This was in an office setting. It is barbaric, It is cruel and it is awful.

And have you talked to have you done the circumcision one with like a podcast about this at all? Yet? No?

You should?

You should definitely because he I'm telling you guys, like the whole thing. It was surprised. It surprised me. And there's like actual evidence that shows that their brain changes, like they did all these MRIs on these kids not. They weren't using them as rab lats per se. That's because they were doing it already. Like the people weren't doing it as elaborate thing, but they were like, oh yeah,

Well, and I will argue yes to your point, because coming from a facility where I helped perform these it causes so much trauma to that baby, and that trauma lives with that person literally for the rest of their life. That's one of those subconscious things that you bury and you know, you have that memory inside your body like literally forever. And so the barbaric nature of that and how that is done and the amount of pain and

And number ninety one on Filtered Rized podcast, I did one with Sean McCann. You definitely should talk to him. He talks all about this because he has all of that information about how it literally changes the brain pattern. This isn't just for a while, This is a permanent change because you're brand new and the people you trusted the most just did some real fucked up stuff to you.

Oh honey, and it hurts and pain changes you. Awful, It's awful. And then you know, because that is such a vascular area, it bleeds and bleeds and bleeds and bleeds, and the more you scream, the higher your blood pressure goes, the more blood you put out. And then what do we do. We slather vasaline on gauze and just smother the whole thing in this gauze and vasline. And then guess what happens when you pull it off?

Well, and then while it's healing, because I couldn't do it because it hurt me to hurt him. Oh yeah, you have to pull it down and separate it so it doesn't because it literally tries to heal itself.

So it doesn't create scar tissue.

And I didn't do it good, and my poor son, I had to go in about how it after it. It didn't have to be SNIPPs, but what they did to him that day, I they just pulled it so bad and I just thought, and it was bleeding. I just thought, this is nuts. I wished I never did it, and my grandsons aren't and you know what, I'm freaking glad. So whatever. Yeah, now, if I had it to do over again, I already insisted, and my ex husband insisted

But yeah, so likely.

But what are they doing with it too? They don't throw it in the trash can.

Oh no, no, no, they use that. And guess what, ladies, foreskin goes into your makeup products, your face creams, your wrinkle reducers, all of those things.

Have they look up Sandra Bulllock, I'm going to say it because she's out there and she said it. So this is a quote from her. You can see the video where she was asked how she stayed so youthful and she talked about circumcision stuff and so the one thing I can tell you is if you actually set

I would I would say donation like that ahead of time. I would not buy that anymore than it's going to where it's supposed to be going to unless they literally give it to me and I hand deliberate. You know what I'm saying.

That's true, could be. And the makeup companies, the one with the Estay something like that. I can't remember the name because I'm a blonde and I don't know anything, but that very important family. Yeah, they're really well known for this.

Yes, one hundred percent. It goes in their products, and so a lot of those department store, high end expensive whatever they may contain that. So just think about that. And like we said at the beginning of the show, following following routines or rituals, right, because well they've always done it, and you know, everybody in my family is circumcised and whatever, and so why are you circumcising You don't even know other than it's just like muscle memory. It's repetition.

People come at me at us because they're like it says so in the Bible. But here's the thing, if you truly believe in the New Testament, correct, it's out the door people.

Which make the distinction. The Old Testament was very different from the New Testament. And when Jesus came for the New Testament, he said, it has done, it has finished. This is where we're going now because people can't follow the old laws. This is what we're doing now, and so it doesn't apply.

Like you go to argue with me about circumcising. I hope you have a headdress on. I hope you are covered from head to toe as a woman, and I hope you're not wearing any makeup or anything.

And I hope you follow literally the thousands of laws that they had back in the Old Testament. Those applied a celebrating the Old Testament.

Yep, every all their little ceremonies, all of it. You better be doing all of that because you can't cherry pike it. Honestly, do you really think Jesus wants It's like owing somebody wants to describe this to me, because Mormonism is a very you have to do all the things to get to happen. You know, that is so offensive because Jesus literally died and bled and suffered and

Come on, one hundred percent. And so when he said that is done, the old ways are done. This is what it's going to be moving forward. Why are we still doing.

This or we would be doing animal sacrifice.

Let's be one hundred percent. And so not only circumcision, but baptism was part of it. Naming ceremonies were part of it, public decorations and so the public shaming and all of that stuff and submission rights, that was all part of the thing. And so that evolved and it changed, and so blood moved to symbols, and pain moved to sacraments, the body moved to testimony, and obedience moved to righteousness.

That, and how every single time we do all the things that everybody wants us to do to be all the same right, it's one hundred percent.

Where are they moving you too? When that happens. They're moving you away from God and away from your individuality because you're easier control when you're just like every one else.

And if you believe in the old God and you don't believe in the grace and love and everything of when the New Testament came, that puts you in a really weird mindset that you're easily led right, like Janet said, back to end of world stuff or cults or saving yourself.

You've got to do it yourself, don't you know?

You got to do it your It's not.

The point of life, like one hundred percent. And you have to be part of this group or this religion or this cult or whatever, or you're not going to go to heaven or you're not gonna be divine or whatever you're going you don't, Yeah, if you are, if you're not part of us.

And then your family abandons you.

Yeah, so that happens, and so these groups always appear. They define who belongs, what the experience means, what happens if you refuse, and what if there's punishment, what it is, what your body actually signifies, and your relationship to fear. And so they know these things, They use these things, They manipulate these things, and they systematically do these things to break you down so that it installs dependency and you on them, on the system, on what they say.

You have to have somebody. Yes. Yeah, when people started to learn how to read, it really messed up everything for them.

So you know, they have another way, kind of like when they invented the internet, and they don't know that the internet is forever right and things don't go away. They can remove him, but that doesn't mean wave machine.

Yeah, and don't forget Janet. Women don't read anyways, remember my stalker. Women don't read books.

Yeah, I just ordered another book yesterday though, kiss my tail end of my pooter pipe.

How about that exactly? I think he needs that.

Oh sorry, no, not from exactly. Well maybe that's what happened to him.

So uh.

Public penance was the fourth through the ninth centuries, and so these were the confessions of sin in front of the entire community. Stand up in front of your church until everyone what you did, forced wearing of sackcloth or chains, standing barefoot in cold or heat, kneeling on stone floors for hours a day, which I will say that still occurs in some modern day societies as well, where they will make you kneel on the concrete or on hot asphalt or hot coals or you know, whatever the case

Freemasons oftentimes wear the dresses.

Humiliation ritual. Hello, So this becomes torture because the pain inflicted is def really deliberate.

Right, Okay, Sammy, what's how you do?

Right? I put you in what's that called? Yeah, and I'm gonna throw what's he throwing? Is it rocks or is there a role? You can't throw a role at you? I think I try and be like, let me play some really crappy music for you while you're in this deckade.

And that's But.

The government uses torture in these same kind of ways because they do it to get to shut down descent that they don't like. Hello, branch Davidians. Again, they didn't like what they were doing, they didn't like the people, they didn't want them there, and so there was a lot of torture that went on therect.

Scares me because it doesn't look that old.

You know, it literally looks like forties fifties. Yeah, so can I see them doing this to people? Yeah, because think about, Oh what did they do over in Germany where they made everyone wear a gold star? They had the mark them somehow, which was a humiliation ritual like you said before, and so the wearing of a sackcloth

Oh they're they're dunking or in front of everybody over and over a way everybody watches and hopefully they don't.

Maybe they're trying to purify her.

Yeah, she might be a witch, she might be in witch tested. I don't know.

So interesting, you never know. I mean there's some do we do some stuff right? And so with all these public things and whatever that's going on in the torment and the torture that comes along with it, their thought is like the body must suffer so that the soul can submit.

Absolutely. What is that? This was a little symbol for all of this together and this this dark road of like transmutation. Basically, so I thought I would put it on there seemed a part or well that's very doontrous, right, super magically spooky, but hey whatever.

So we have the monastic obedience as tolders total surrender, and these were like the Benedictine and later esthetic orders, and so monks and nuns took vows of poverty and chastity, right, you're going to be whole and pury absolute obedience, and so the obedience was not symbolic, it was a total body compliance. So practices included forced silence for months or years. A lot of convents were like that, you were not

I might I say I'm less mentally ill than some people.

But sure, well yeah, and so your will, your self will is the enemy, uh, superior will is God's will. But I don't think God wants you to be kneeling on concrete or whatever until you bleed, or cut yourself up until you bleed so you can bloodlet because that's what he's expected. No, that's a no, and he doesn't want you to suffer. That's why he made the ultimate sacrifice. Just saying so, flagellation was in the medieval flatulent movements, not flatulance. I have to keep clarifying if there was

I was part of it.

It was great. We rated ten out of ten. Boy. So again this is the public whipping until you bleed, ritualize. Chance were sometimes involved in this.

Hats are cool for this flagulent movement.

And you know what this picture reminds me of. It reminds me of Devo Devo where they always wear the flower pots on their heads.

I mean they kind of look like witches to me. But hey, you know, people I don't know.

You really yeah, flagilence in the Netherlands, scourging themselves in atonement, believing that the black death is punishment from God for their sins.

Yes, ah, yeah, I don't know about that. But you know the black black spot. Yeah, no black spots.

But that's that's what this, what this flagellation movement was. That's a very weird thing to have happened. And and my personal opinion, this was the rise of fetishes because this is nothing more.

I was noticed. It's a redheaded guy. You know, I love my husband, but there's red better.

You better check his drawers in the night stand stuff. Make sure he didn't have any flagellation.

Yeah. Stuff right.

So it made me think of a video that I saw not too long ago, and it was some kind of like Hawaiian group of men or something that we're walking through the streets that were doing some kind of ritual chant that had like flagellation things where they were like throwing them there over their shoulders and whipping and stuff. Part of your culture. Okay, I don't know what it's for, but okay, maybe you can explain it. If you're one of those people, you can explain to me the significance

Most of the time, if you're accused, somebody else did it and you found out.

One hundred percent. And how about this one pain reveals truth? I would say no, I would say, if you torture someone long enough, Hello, what our government does? If you torture someone long enough, they will say whatever you want them to say so that the pain will stop. Right. Resistance to being tortured proves that you're guilty. Hello Salem, which is we see you. The Church does not torture.

Oh that's treacher.

Yeah.

And in the Mormon Church, just so you guys know, back in the old days, you couldn't atone for some sins because they're just too sinny. They're too much for gus. And so you know, Brigham Young is quoted in saying, if you love your neighbor, love him enough to spill his blood, because if he needs his blood spilled, you should spill it.

Hence why there are documentaries about certain Mormon offshoots where they would literally go and commit murders because they believe that God was telling them to go kill this woman and her kids or just all of these people in this.

Town or whatever sick and the Danites on him.

Yeah, yeah, one hundred and so because of this. In the Inquisition era, it was legal. It was legal to tear people limb from limb and to accuse people and there was no trial. They just automatically tortured him and all this stuff. It was liturgical, so it was part of the process, right, It was structured and prayer were adjacent. And so the Bible says that it is okay to do this. No, it doesn't unless you're talking about the

Mean, that's still true.

Yeah, And so these things were carried out in the guise of, uh, it's for the soul's own good, right, and so these were legitimized and whatever, and kind of like the nanny state and nanny boobooing on your neighbor and and you know, Karen calling because you left your house during the scamdemic. I don't know why you left your house. Maybe it was important, maybe they had to go to seek emergency medical care or something like that.

Oh yeah, yep, I had my letter so I could travel because I was a mandatory healthcare.

Worker one hundred percent. And there's a lot of states that were like that. It was not like that here, thankfully, because we're completely they never stopped us.

I just got the weird letter and I went I thought, was weird.

Yeah, that's one hundred percent like that's that is literally Nazi Germany. Let me see your papers. That's exactly what that is. The same thing with the vaccine passport or any of that stuff, or digital ID, biometric scans, all of that stuff. You cannot participate in society unless we say you can, unless you are forced or coerced or mandated to do whatever we want you to do that we say you have to do. That's that's literally the definition of what we're talking about today. So forced exorcisms

Right, double your double deed, double demon.

I'll like you. So you're you're suffering during these exorcisms meant that it was working right, and so it could literally go on for days or weeks or how long. And why are there only certain priests that are allowed to perform those Are these mascuists? Are they sadists? I'm just curious what makes them qualify over someone else? I don't know.

Yeah, I think you know, in the Mormon Church, they tried to shock the gay out of people, right, and I'm not kidding, and these people went on to have lucrative careers in three letter agencies or become the prophet of the church.

Well, and it's a good thing that you mentioned that, because think about the camps and stuff that they have for people to take their kids too so that they can reform them and save them. And it's what are they called.

The wilderness camps?

No, it's it's it's a it's another name, but it's something to like, how's a specific name.

Oh, they're reprogramming, reprogram.

Kind of like that. I can't remember what the specific name is. But but that was a big thing where they used the same kind of stuff uh, torture, submission, like all of the things to try to get somebody to be broken. Basically kind of doctor does. All their programs are decided to designed to break you down and make you submit and be controlled the government and three literal agencies same thing, right, Okay, So then we have

Just fixing up right here there. This guy has a cap on, he looks very priestly. He's fixing in.

Yeah, he is bottomizing his brain. Poll social exclusion, Hello, surveillance of behavior, Hello again, Mandatory confessions, loss of community I descent occurred. Hello again. So are we an akadechisas period right now? In our modern society? I think that's pretty close to yes. But int out of hell imagery for compliance, I think it has moved to like Project Bluebeam type stuff, right, and AI surveillance and all of that, and so everything is fear porn from the left and

Yeah. Yeah.

And then we have the asceticism crossing into self erasure. And so this is from Japan again, and it's the Soko Shinbutsu and extreme Christian aesthetics. Again, the body is an obstacle. Oh that darn body.

Sounds so much like scientology, right.

Your desire is corrupt. Your corrupt because your have bodily desires. That's the way God created you, just saying endurance proves purity and death is victory. And so this theology sanctifies self destruction. Once the self the enemy, harm is holy.

And so.

If your body is the devil, you're supposed to destroy the devil. And so I guess you're supposed to kill yourself because it makes them happier if you're not there. So a good thing. We're not under that, not under that, but that's anyway. So the core thesis or the core pattern I guess if you will for all of these different religions is the authority is divine right, the body

Bad choice doesn't sound like a good idea.

So early Christianity warned against these things, but of course failed to present it prevent it. Because people are bad. People are inherently sinful, and we do just play stupid games.

Yeah, like look at the cult leaders. They're never normal, Like no, come.

On, one hundred person, Oh and this is that's it's true. And sometimes I feel like this. Sometimes I feel like a nut. Sometimes I don't. So rituals that don't worship a deity, they worship obedience and so obedience is always part of these weird rituals or rites or I would say traditions a lot of times as well. And so submission is salvation, and so the institution itself is the one that becomes the object of worship. Like we've said many times on the show, or I've said many times,

Right, and scientology is allegedly ocal. No, it's all the.

Same, allegedly. There's a very I mean there's a very good documentary about that as well. It's very interesting in the very long, long parts.

And so.

With all of these things, they wrap it up in a little bow and package and try to give it to you, and they're like, but it's God's will that you do this. This is the final age, and so we won't be here in the future. So you've got to get right now. Your body must obey to save your soul. You were chosen, you were chosen for this trial. There's no other path. You have to do this, and

Submit or quit, right, I mean, you know, if you're willing. One time, my husband said it perfectly, and like I said, I was a Mormon, so I can speak on it. If they can get you to wear certain underwear down to your undies me undies, yep, mandies, you might be in a cult. Yeah.

Well, they cannot get me hooked into that because I don't like to wear me undies.

I'm not.

That's another thing that they're like they sold everybody on like underwear and whatever whatever, But you know how restrictive underwear are.

Yeah, yeah, Now I only wear the undies for a couple purposes, for night time for a minute, and for if you're wearing a dress, I want to wear some mondies. Yeah what if you fall?

Never know?

The clams yep, exactly, Yeah, you.

Know, surprise it's a teenager maybe two. If things are.

Regulated, yeah, just one hundred percent. But other than that, they actually cause more harm than good because you're creating that moist, wet, damp male or female aha area that leads to things like east.

Extremely weird looking probably like garments and they're free. Uh, they're kind of yeah, not restrictive.

One hundred percent. So with the undergarments, with the flagellation, with all of these things. Not populations yet. No, not farting, it's not part of this, although we should do a show on farting. That would be exciting. These are like forcing people to sign over a covenant or an agreement with an authority other than God, right to give up like their self worth and all of these things. And

It just is. And so.

Renaming is again really important, kind of like what we talked about in the last episode with Pharmakiah. But your sin, you're actually giving up your sin. But what they're really taking is your identity. Your devotion to them is actually you're giving up your own autonomy to make decisions to be you. All of those things, giving up your trust, they're actually taking your internal compass, and so your wilfare discernment went out the window when you signed up with

So you become your savior.

Yes, yes, and we all need a save you. Hallelujah. Pray it's Jesus.

We need a real savior, not a man savior. If a man tells you he's your savior or a woman whatever, I don't care who. If a person here on earth that's alive right now and breathing and alive, it's probably not well.

And hence what I said about the churches that we went to, and it's like I am the authority, like I'm telling you to do this or you're not going to heaven and I'm like, that's not for you to decide. You're a preacher and you don't know the Bible, Okay, bye bye, Yeah, But how many people go to church

And if you have another book that's the Holy Book, you should probably know that one too, just saying yeah, because you probably don't.

Yeah, true words.

And so.

Are these things like causing a neurological override? Are they causing your body to fracture in ways not just psychologically or spiritually, but physically, like you're causing all this pain and stuff, And so think about all the chemicals and the hormones and all of these things that are released that are flooding your body, and especially if they keep you, like the forced exorcism, chained up for long periods of times, or if you're flagellating yourself out in public, what's that

Especially about physically as well, Like we have to figure out you need to know who you are. Look, if you know who you are, you're really not going to fall for all this crap. Really, you're not gonna if somebody tells me tomorrow like, hey, here's this arsenic you know, go poison yourself because you'll be better off. I'm just going to look at you like you're stupid.

It'll make you feel better. Hey, you'll whack off your boobs because uh, it will make you more holy.

Yeah, I mean this has gotten to a level where people are doing things that are batshit crazy. I'm just gonna say it.

And that's the thing is everybody is born with discernment, and then at some point in time, your discernment obviously left the building. And so if you're experiencing any of these things, is it what is it about you that's drawing you into that? Is it that you have to belong to something? Is it that that need to belong or or what is it that's drawing you into a society that's willing to inflict physical and psychological harm on you to get you to submits just to belong.

And then here's the thing. Now you've quelled everything right, you belong. Now you hate yourself and you're depressed and you have a whole bunch of anxiety. Why because you're not following through with something that you absolutely know is not a good idea.

You you know, and I know, and your gut, your inside is telling you this is not right right, and then you do it and you feel like garbage.

Yeah, you're depressed, even if it's not bad. Nothing I did in the Mormon church harmed a child or killed anyone or none of those weird things that happened in their sex as sect right of Mormonism. But as a still knew, Yes, I still knew. I knew. I knew that something was up, and I was very unhappy and very uncomfortable. Uncomfortable is a good word. And we're given those warnings. And my husband feels bad sometimes. He has a pretty good intuition sometimes and it's a little intense.

Yeah, one hundred. And that's why, like the inkling that I get about people, about certain people or certain situations or whatever, I always trust that instinct because I'm like, well, that is God telling me, like run, run the other way, get away from that person for whatever reason, or leave whatever situation because I'm saving you from danger.

All literally, anxiety cause himself almost a panic attack because he feels so bad for prejudging someone, which is good. I mean, I love these qualities about him because he's a fair and just man, Okay, But sometimes sometimes I'm like no, Sometimes I flat tell him. Later he'll say did you get a weird feeling about this or that? And I'm like yeah, He's like, oh, but you didn't.

I've don't had that. Like even when we were in church before and there was the person in church and I was like, I started feeling physically ill. I'm like that, like everything in my being was like, this is such a dark, like evil person, and I'm like, we have to move.

That's exactly what happened to him, and he had to.

Move to a different section in the church because.

That person don't feel good.

Like God was like, get away from them, and they can.

Be spiritual vampires. And I told my husband because he felt bad about this because he's felt like he was gonna puke, you know, and like really bad. And I was like, no, this is like a severe warning and you don't have to act. He's like, but you didn't act weird. I'm like, yeah, but I still got the warning. Yeah, I just know now you know what what you do with that. But I mean you don't have the panic, you know, just like you said you got up and moved.

I'm sure it's like very overwhelming for somebody, especially if they're not used to.

Those Yeah, that's wrong, right, don't trust yourself, trust trust.

Me because, like thinking back to our show series that we did in December, that's God's design. He created you that way. And so why is the church or cult or whatever trying to break those things from you. It's trying to hurt people. Take the alarm for you.

Yeah, so they can hurt people, and you'll fall for it, because that's why people get you know, sexually abused or physically whatever, you know, because you'll always say they'll be pressed that. Yeah, they'll say, well I thought blah blah blah, you know, and I'm like, no, don't. If it's that serious of a warning, you probably need to heat it in a nice way.

You can still be nice.

You can still be.

Nice, yeah, one hundred percent, but you know you got to go to the bathroom. Yeah. People drive that that inclination out of you or whatever that leaves you susceptible and vulnerable and weak to any and every kind of attack and manipulation. Right. I think that's why some people are so easily manipulated into stuff like that, and other people are not because the people that are not have stronger discernment in situations.

And that's why if you ever are around a true narcissist and you're a person like me or Janet, they will immediately hate you. We'll find a reason to hate you. And you.

Know, hey, what you see is what you get, and you don't like it, don't buy the package.

Just say and you're not forcing me into any shit. I already did that for too many years. Yeah, this is not someone. I think people can feel it because he's like, well, you're They don't come around like that guy, that particular guy. He didn't touch my husband, He didn't shake his hand, nothing. He just walked behind him. He didn't walk even close to me. He like, way far

And that's the thing is is having that that discernment and that ability and knowing how to control that and you know, and.

We're talking about in a dangerous situation, here not that kind of person in general. Well, I'm just saying, like.

Not even looking at it from that side, but even like biblically speaking, it talks about leading with grace, mercy, kindness, patients, and love that when you when you show those things that you know, those will be cast on to others and they're going to be able to see that from you. Right, And so in that same token, when when that situation happened with that guy, he was like, oh nope, like this is a person that this is like a stop or curry.

Yeah, yeah, this is a bad thing.

Yeah.

I think they just know. And my grandpa used to joke with me because he was always my person that I felt the most like him and my dad and my grandpa would always say because they know, if it really came to it, like actually like a real threat, like an actual real threat. Not that my husband wouldn't take care, he would, but like I'm not going to think about it either. Yeah that is going to happen

One hundred percent. It's like a mother raccoon, Like, don't mess with a mother raccoon, or any kind of mother for that matter.

And that's why my kids they're like, we bring somebody home and you know, you were super nice. But and I'm like, but what And they're like, oh, I don't know. They just feel awkward.

I'm like, but you know, you know what it is. And I get this all the time where it's like, you're so intimidating, and I'm like, how the hell am I intimidating?

Here?

You know what I'm saying, I'm a short, fun size package of happiness, Like how am I intimidating? But thinking about it, it's because of that and because of the way that I lead my life and stuff like that, that that is only intimidating for people that interpret.

That as a try and push you in a way you won't go. And that's just like that's a that's a good thing. Like, yeah, that's why you know I'll never be in another cult. I can guarantee it. Why because I won't well and.

Because you had to go through that experience to be the kind of person that you are today. And so now it it honed, it sharpened your discernment and stuff, and now you're like your spidey senses are heightened.

Yeah, different, and I'm not that you know. The one thing that the FLDS used to always say two women especially is keep sweet. And they would say this if women would say something controversial, they would say, you need to keep sweet and go pray to be sweeter. That is super screwy with a woman because we want to be we want to be mothering and all that. So if we are sounding of all around, there's a reason.

Right Yeah. And that's the thing is and I'm glad you brought that because that fits in perfectly with this. Is that again, those those groups, those religions, those cults, the sexts, you know say CCTs again, all of that stuff which often plays into modern times, right, is that strong womanhood is frowned upon because they need that energy from you, They need that feminine energy and all of that stuff, and and through conditioning, through all of these

Isn't that the truth? In the podcast community, sadly.

And a lot of just the world in general, people are like that, sadly. But you know a lot of good decisions and solid decisions were made with a woman in mind or a woman support, you know what I mean?

Well, and Iron Sharman's Iron Like men or women, whichever you may be, if you rise to the level of your man and he comes down to the level of you, like as far as sensitivity or whatever, it doesn't have to be the man bring insensitive. I'm way more insensitive than my husband. I'll admit that one percent. Sometimes he's like saying and I'm like, oh, I guess you know.

That stupid whatever.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I didn't even realize how that was, you know. Or he's like, you're you were abrasive because not to him, he'll say this, he helps me because I'm I don't get it, not because I I was just raised by I said, be raised by somebody who is really critical and mean to you all the time. You do not have that sensitivity anymore. I really don't.

Same agreed, yep, yep.

And I always joke you know, well, get it beat out of you and you won't be sensitive anymore. The last time I cried, I got my ass. But you want something to cry about.

Yeah, yep, same.

So yeah. But that's the thing.

Is is in a is in a good relationship. And that's whether it's a marriage or dating or church relationship or whatever. You are supposed to sharpen each other and bring each other up and raise each other up. So if you are in something where someone or some institution is bringing you down or weakening you in any way, shape, or form, whether it's through physical, psychological, any of that stuff, then that is not the place for you.

Our control is always luciferian, Yes, always one hundred person. People might think that's weird or whatever, but I'm just telling you guys like that it is. You don't have to con I don't have to control my husband with other women. He controls himself. He doesn't have to control me with other men. I'm in control of myself.

Like it's not because because you still have your self autonomy, you haven't given it over to an institution.

I did, but no more.

So before we go, we have to talk about and hopefully this is not going to get us booted or removed. But and the basis of circumcision, Uh, there is a little practice in a certain religion where there practices after they circumcise baby.

They kiss. That's kiss.

They do that, and it's acceptable in a lot of sex sects, Uh, not so much today. Supposedly, however, the holy person in charge loves the loves the lollipop of the circumcised baby, and supposedly this is to get the blood to stop flowing. Yes, I was gonna say, everybody's born with a clotting factor unless you are I have a genetic disorder where you have no clotting factor, so that blood is going to clot on its own.

Uh So that is not and exciting the area of any male would cause more blood brush low the area. So this is absolutely not from just this is.

Medical h yes, which is its true, because any genital area, whether it be male or female, has so many capillaries. That's the little teeny teeny teeny blood vessels that that supply all of the blood. It's highly vascular.

And so.

That they're that whole thing is a complete and total missed.

The word for it.

But interesting that that word fallacy because what is fallatio.

And also ps Your mouth as a human is real dirty. And also your mouth should never be on a baby anywhere but their head like at the top. Like literally keep your dirty mouth off of babies because it gets them sick. Honestly, don't GISs your kids on the mouth. It's weird first of all. Second of all, it's it's you do things with your mouth as an adult. I'm quite certain that you wouldn't want to share with a child.

Are children?

Why do baby children get cold soores? It's weird.

Well, and let's explain that for people who do not know. If you have oral herpes and you do genital ah, that will cause genital herpes and so yeah, especially.

In a compromised immune system of a tiny little human.

So I didn't want to mention in this specific religion or whatever because I don't.

Go google it.

You know, we don't want to be shut down.

I didn't want to get us in a world a doo doo foo because saying anything about that religion that could be a a thing.

If it came to your mind that that was girls and you went, youw just out of ja.

Yeah, that's very true, and not a j for Janet either, because that's not I don't do those kind of things all and.

We we love everyone, but that should never happen no matter what religion.

You know, and and people like researching this right, there's there's a lot to this and so it's not just that they do that. Then it's like, uh, they have a covenant. So they have a blessing afterwards where they're toasting with wine. Why because you gave a BJ to a baby, like hello, that's that's insane to me. They're renaming ceremony hello, Cultish practice prayers, declaring him part of the covenant. So given over before they're able to make

And it might happen in other cultures that we don't know about, but that one we do know about it, so we should. It is our responsibility as people that don't believe in this to educate people. And you can do what you want, but honestly, not to kids.

Yeah no, And you know, there's like that's the only one I know of with that, But there's other stuff. There's a Shia Islam that has devote their bodies or heads until blood flows of mortaring, mourning the martyrdom of the Imam Hussein, and so like busting your head open is a great idea to pay homage to.

A martyr castrating little girls and the women do it to the women in certain cultures, uh huh, one hundred percent.

We've had many, many, many patients with that kind of thing, and.

It causes some of the most horrific disfigurements and issues.

Yeah, absolutely lifelong problems because all done in the name of you know, ritual or culture or you know, whatever the case may be. And it's it's not a it's not a good look, it's not a good thing. So in the Hinduism uh taypoo, some devotional This is from vel Kabody and they use hooks, pensions, and spear piercings.

Some of these I didn't put pictures of clearly because we're already gonna get massacred for this comment.

Yeah, it would be like, huh, definitely the whole thing. Yeah, because these these would be considered gore and violence, and especially when there's religious groups involved.

Yeah, it would be isolating. One group is a whole. So some of this I just didn't do.

It because so the participants in these pierce their cheeks, their tongue, or their skin with metal rods or hooks while carrying heavy shrines. Some enter trans like states, and it's reframed that pain is your ladder to ascension. Don't you know it's not injury if you pierce yourself. Now

That's the.

And all of these things, because hello, the skin stretches, and once it stretches that far, it does not come back there's the laggest is gone, and then you gotta trim down the flappy meat hook curtains. Right, So this is another thing that leads into fetishism. So a lot of these cults. Can I see these cults or religions or whatever doing these things because it's also part of their fetish their leaders, I'd be.

Normal, like normal for them. But then this gets out right, and then some weird guy from the town over there goes guess what, and then you know, things spread like wildfire. And look, we're not trying to be disrespectful to people's religions or their culture, but use your brain, Like, come on, like, at this point in life, do you really think this is a good idea to like self crast rate at home?

Yeah, one hundred percent brainwashing mind control.

Oh yep.

So there's another one that's the a gory sect that's Hindu tantric and they believe that cremation ground meditation and skull rituals and ritual and ritual and purity and so they were called agoris and they perform rites among corpses and ashes, sometimes using skull bulls. Oh hello Edguyn.

And what's his name that did his mom's neck hole? Uh, I can remember Big talk guy, serial killer Kemp Kemper.

Yeah, Edward Kemper, bone maulice, which I don't know what that is, or symbolic consumption of corpses.

Sometimes the ashes. I found some recipes and those cakes of light sometimes they use corpse ashes.

Yeah, that's that is a problem for me, and so this for.

Them, and that is the problem for me.

Say I don't I am a smoker. And I have got cigarette ash in my mouth before, and that is gross enough. Let alone dar Old ant Betty. I don't want to eat her in a cake of life with period blood. I just don't. That doesn't sound aptizing to me. I just I'm just saying it doesn't. So with their ritualistic whatever, they believe that doing this with their ancestors on the bear grounds leads to ego death and results

Look, and none of this sounds this is why we had the play. I'm just no, not really. But maybe if you are a Christian, you should probably be careful of things that open you up to weird things, because maybe you're gonna channel something with some necromancy.

And maybe this is a reason why bad things happened to you and follow you and your family and whatever. Don't don't do that and and speaking of like the bones and and all of that kind of stuff that made me think of like uh, Santa Ria or the what's it called happens in New Orleans.

Who do?

And voodoo who do and voo those kind of things where they you know, do sacrifices or use bones and all that stuff.

And don't do oaths with any of this weird stuff like yeah, and don't say us with like debt, I know, like death a death oath right right, like school and bones does it. The Mormon Church does it only in words on both that we know of. But look, this is a bad idea. This is just don't pronounce death over your life.

Right.

We're living a life because we're alivee percent.

And you're meant to live the life that you were given by the Creator. You weren't meant to live the life that crazy religious sector cult or just whatever I want you to do, because that's just weird. So ancient Mesoamerican religions like the Aztecs, the Maya and related cosmology theology stuff, the priest offered human hearts or blood to sustain the gods with a small g and keep the

And everybody laughs about Indiana Jones movies and the Temple of Doom in particular, one of the most occult movies I've ever seen in my life. And they rip out the guy's beating heart and they say some words, and I dare say I used to say them all the time because I knew the words, and like it was a joke. You know, I clearly don't do that anymore. But I'm pretty sure if you look that up, it's a real ritual.

Yeah, one hundred percent. Hence, ah, this and what we just talked about. And so they believed this was cosmic necessity, not murder, and so it was okay just to run into your neighbor down the road and we're about their heart and offered up.

To the.

Gods sods. Yeah, said that they didn't block out the sun and so other or was it like raw that they were doing this sacrifice too?

Yeah? All better cut it out. Oh, don't cut it. You've done what I'm talking about that was about.

Yeah for that, knock it off. Yeah. So the Greco Roman or societies like the Dionysians, the illusions, the orphic, they underwent symbolic death, rebirth rights, drank psychoactive wine, danced until exhaustion, or entered caves in underground chambers. And this was all meant in the name of ego dissolution and altered consciousness. So they would drink until they got loopy and then go sit in a cave.

Guess who else did that for real?

Wasn't me?

Joseph Smith did it?

Yeah, well, it wasn't mean people.

People need to know the religion and what they support, their background of any really not just him. Well, and.

What happens when you drink a lot and your brain came astray changes and then you have vivid or lucid hallucinations and visions and whatever, and everything in your body changes because your chemical bakeup changes and all of these things. It's like a cascade effect happened in your body. Right, So could that be where his visions and stuff came from?

I think it had a part of it that and he called it down honestly. I mean, and a lot of people go back and forth with this and they'll say, well, he got it from this, and he got it from that, and it's exactly the same as this, And I'm like, right, because this is older than Mormonism. This is a cult that continued on. And for anybody that doesn't understand Szabatai Zebbie, you will never understand any of this. You have to look it up and check all that out, and I'll

Right, that is very true. It is very fractured and very cultish inverted.

Yeah, as below, they know revelations and they're absolutely trying to bring it to you on a silver.

Platter, right, one hundred percent.

And so.

Again with that particular or religion and what they did to the babies after circums and and whatever. Like I said before in the show, God loves children and he loves their innocence, and so how better to take the innocence of a child.

And attached things.

So just don't do that, and that's weird.

Stop it.

Yeah, that's supposedly the only sect of that religion that still does.

That, and it's just not healthy or good or wise. So no. Yeah, so just a practice, not the religion, just the practice. Lead kids alone, lead kids and animals alone.

Yeah, that's yeah. Don't do anything to annals that makes me upset.

No, that one upsets me bad. Yep.

So we have the folk Catholicism and syncreatic rituals, which are Haitian voodoo, Santa Ria Threw Harriet influenced stuff, and so it's spirit possession, animal sacrifice, trance, invocation, ritual contracts. Hello, don't manifest and don't do stuff like that. It creeps me out. And bodily mediums and so the practitioner speaks, moves or convulsive as a spirit, not as themselves, and so it creates a temporary vacancye I guess, and the

It was creepy.

I was like, this is like, it was so dark. I literally felt like a band of demons was following me. I was like, nope, this is not not for me.

Somewhere else Philadelphia and yeah, it's a little creepster.

Yeah. So again, listen to who that connection, because that's trying to tell you something. And so again with these Haitian and voodoo and Santa Ria and all of that stuff, and especially the Brew Harriat, it's it's centered around witchcraft and dark arts and dare I say ritualistic sacrificial stuff.

If it needs bones, blood, skin, baby stuff, uh whatever, you should probably really be on alert. If it is anybody under the age of eighteen, get the hell out of there.

Yeah. Well, and if you're over the age of eighteen, you may want to also get out of there, but that's beside the point.

I agree. But then you can choose leave those people and animals that can't choose the hell alone, please, thanks, So.

Where does this leave us? Things are gross medically speaking, psychologically speaking, spiritually speaking, But it's done for a purpose, right, and it's done for control. See how far they can get you to go? What can we do to break you, to make you want to just belong and be a part of us and to not question and to think this is okay. And to a lot of these places that are like, hey, anybody outside of this religion or

And you should care about if somebody, including the Mormons. It's not just the one where I said, goam. Mormons believe that nobody else is saved and that you know not. They used to say, don't care about them, screw them over, rob them still for like this is old stuff, But I mean, come on.

You know the well and there's other religions to this day that are still the exact same way, and they believe wholeheartedly that whatever, they'll still come to your door and knock and try to talk to you.

Yeah, yeah, and we'll hear our message today.

No, no, I don't. So is it worth it? Is it worth? Uh? You giving up your individuality and your bodily autonomy and your mental, physical, and spiritual health to be long and to be wanted by one of these groups? And if you grew up in this kind of group, are you questioning? Are you having a gut feeling or a sense that something is wrong? Trust that it's not a gut feeling, that's God telling you something is not right. And questions where are we are all born?

Say like, we're innocent and we all have our internal compass and if you go against that, you know you're probably.

Going to reap the benefit on So, miss Heidi, thank you for joining me for another obolossally lovely It's grotesque, grisome, growth, yack, nasty, yucky episode where you can ladies and gents find you.

At I keep checking all these weirdo things that poor Janet, and I like her advice the best. That's yucky, don't do it because it grosses me out.

So it's yucky and I love it. Let's do it?

And so you know, good point, it's a good point, and you know we've evolved as a SPC, so let's evolve completely and stop doing weird shit like that.

And you know, play stupid games and one stupid prizes, just saying you exactly.

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