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Welcome to the occult rejects in this episode. I got a bunch of us with us today. I got Jin the Ninja. Welcome, sir, what's going on? Thank you very much for joining us today.

Thank you Nick, I appreciate it obviously, my boss mister thirty three, and thank you guys for being on and working with all of you today. And I've never met Julia Raven or Lobster, but yeah, it's all good.

Good and you want to let everybody know where they can find your stuff.

Sure.

So I have a show called Threshold Saints. It's really I'm calling it a serial experiments in speculative ontology.

So it's like about the.

Metafiction of magic and fiction, storytelling, narrative, all the things that we talked about whenever I'm on the show. So if you want to check that out, you can follow me on Twitter at wugon reborn to the uk O and g reborn or on ig or apples and Spotify.

Awesome, Thank you very much and your links will be in the bottom off then not already, And Lisa, that made scientist. What is going on? Thank you very much for joining us. I know you have nothing to plug, but thank you for joining us.

Wait wait, wait, I do have something to plug. A cult research institute dot org our website where a lot of really cool people contribute a written form of media.

So thank you, awesome, thank you very much. And yeah, people go check that site out. Now to Julia, Cosmic Peach is with us. Hell, yeah, what is going on? Julia? Let everybody know what your deal is and where they can find your stuff. Please.

I am official occult rejeck. Now this is my second time co hosting. I'm so excited. Yeah, you can find Cosmic Peach podcasts wherever you listen to podcasts except YouTube of course, flock them. And yeah, actually I've been really digging being an occult reject because I've already learned so much. I love I love having the variety of guests on. I'm really excited about this one today too.

Oh yeah, thank you and thank you for being a part of it. Julia, you're a great researcher. I appreciate the stuff you do. And uh, the og himself. Last, but not least, Robbie Marx. What is up, my man? Please let everybody know where they can find all your amazing work and your art.

Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for getting this group together. This is gonna be a good one.

Yeah. I'm our Marx or Robbie Marx.

I'm an artist and I do art for bands and festivals as well as researching. If you want to check out any of my stuff, my art, my podcast, my Patreon, you can go to my link tree which is at r M A r X R Marx and then I'll pull up everything.

That's what's up And thank you very much for joining us as well, sir. And finally, to the guests of the hour, we got Raven and top Lobster from the Nephilim Death Squad. I went on the show. I had a blest. It was awesome. They asked great questions, they seemed really into it, and I really wanted to get them on the show as well. I guess we'll go with top Lobster first. What's up, dude? You want to introduce yourself and let everybody know who may not know who you are, what you deal is?

Yes, what's up, guys, Thank you. I am a ship poster online. I own a T shirt company toplopster dot com, and I do a couple of shows, one of them nephlm Des Squad with David here. We talk about the things that you guys like. I do comedy Tower Gang, and we do a political pseudo conspiracy show with our Frank Clint Russell, which will be we'll be doing it. I guess after this show, right around two thirty. It's called Dangerous Retards or Dangerous real talk, real dudes, the retards.

Implied, and then that's what I do. Dave, what's up? What's up? Guys? Thank you for having us.

Yeah, we just did an episode with you, Nick, and we also had Robbie on and that was a awesome conversation. We went heavy into the egg, real heavy into the egg. And uh yeah, I'm David Lee Korby. You can find me on Twitter at David L. Corbo on Twitter, and I am one half of Nephelim Des Squad, one third of Dangerous Retards. Also do a show called Timeline Cleansed that probably nobody should watch because it's very abrasive and incredibly offensive.

Very happy to be here guys.

Awesome. Yeah, I'm very happy to have you on, and especially for this topic. I guess whichever one of you want to answer this first. Who was it that even came across this guy that thought it was interesting to cover?

Oh, that was top Top, We'll discovered him. Not really, it was it was just multiple guests. We've had, we have people on and they come on and they're like, yeah, anyway, so you know, this guy was doing this thing and I was like, what's his name, and they're like, pouha Rich.

I was like okay, and.

Then it's it's come up like maybe seven eight times before I said, wait a second, what the fuck is going on in different fields of study, not just like the occult, but like science, in the science realm, in the CIA realm, in you know, the government realms. I'm like, okay, now we need to actually look into who this guy is.

So but we're just real quick. You said he was involved with the Telepathy Tapes.

Well, it's not that he's involved with the Telepathy tapes. It's that he finds his way into the conversation and in virtually every topic that maybe maybe the scientific community or the medical community would call pseudoscience. And as soon as you start delving into that realm, he pops up. You asked which one of us discovered it, and I was quick to say Top, But as Top was talking

He's been right under our news.

That's where he comes up in the telepathy tapes, not necessarily with the esoteric side of it. He comes up in the beginning of an episode, episode two. I believe they're talking about radio waves being frequencies that people can hear, and then they give an example of Lucile Ball. She goes and she has dental surgery, and she starts picking up radio waves somewhere in Manhattan, and right away my radio wave antenna is up.

And I'm like, what the fuck did you just say?

So I'm listening and then they go, oh, yeah, by the way, a doctor in Driga, PA. They call him a doctor scientist. He was developing this dental implant technology that would actually put these radio a radio wave signal into your head.

Yeah yeah, yeah, voice to that technology.

Sound go ahead, go ahead.

Yeah.

So the reason we say it's related to the tinfoil hat is because there are like tangential stories of places where he may have been. And there's a guy that famously wrapped his head in tin because he was hearing voices in his head and the tin stopped it. So in this nursing home or a psychiatric facility that the guy was at, this is what he did, and the doctors allowed it and he said it helped them, so

So yeah, it's top. I actually remember too.

The way that he came up in a big way on our radar was with Control Alt History. We had him on our show, right, and he was talking about the Spirit Calm, which is a device that was created sometime in the eighties and it was like a reliable piece of technology that people were able to communicate with, something that was you know, at the end of the day,

It's like Pooharridge finds his way into the narrative somehow.

So Poohrrich when you look at his early work, his first book was The Sacred Mushroom, and he's actually using fly Garrick mushrooms to try to create telepathy. He actually built a far Day cage for two people to sit in so that they could you know, test the properties, and he said there was a twenty five percent increase intelepithy within the Faraday cage. But he's you know, he's given speeches to the Department of Defense on like psychic spying.

I think what he's finding there is actually really fascinating. Right to put people in a Faraday cage and then to find that there's a twenty five percent increase in the success of being able to predict or read or you know, use some form of telepathy. I have my theories, and it's not like it's a profound one. I think a lot of us suspect that these abilities are innate

Actually is innate to us in one way or another.

So I find that fascinating that he actually found more success, and that kind of opens the door to which I think is still part of this conversation Rogan promoting these John C. Lilly sensory deprivation tanks. I kind of am looking at this like we're getting something very old and we're getting it repackaged and alert into the culture.

Poohich also promotes the idea of the ice bath in regard to oh yeah, in regard to training the body to find the inner light to be able to bring about enlightenment. So yeah, you know, yeah.

Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, Nephlom Death Squad. Are you familiar with the Laurel Canyon at all?

Yes, Yes, they're manufacturing all of our cultural phenomenons, right, So I.

Actually I talk about it a lot. Obviously the cult rejects know this, But I came across Andrea pooh Haich in studying shit from the sixties, actually because he comes up. It was an episode I did about cults and Heaven's Gate came up. In something that was adjacent to the Heaven's Gate cult was this guy named Yuri Geller and Andrea pooh Harrich, and I did this whole fucking presentation on him and.

Type of dude he was.

Up to this ship in the sixties, just Laurel Canyon day CIA fucking program to fucking AI extraterrestrial like he was all about that shit. And it blew my mind when I first heard about him, because I just didn't hear a lot of other people talking about him at the time. But I'm so glad you guys know about it.

It feels like our mascot, doesn't it.

Yeah right, right, He's fallen through the cracks in so many ways. So a little bit about his history. He's born in nineteen eighteen in Croatia. He uh, he actually dies in ninety five unexpectedly. He falls down a set of stairs and just dies like this, like really anti climactic wave. Right, Such a fantastic life that this guy has.

Like a cat tripped him up, stumbled.

Over his cat. Yeah, the cat made his eyelids.

So what's about it. He didn't see that one coming, bro.

Telepathy doesn't work on cats. The entities didn't tell you about that, right. So, so he had some military service and he joined the Army Medical Corps in the fifties, and that's kind of when all of this starts off. He finds himself in Edgewood, Edgewood Arsenal and exactly.

Frank Frank zapA.

Yeah, so I don't even really need to go into this, Like I had went into a deep dive after I looked into Edgewood, and I'm like, this is an entire episode. This is an entire series of episodes. So he goes there and that's like, you know, people speculate that that could be the beginning of the mk Ultra program different

Yeah. Yeah, I think you're beyond like going to you know, friendlies. It doesn't you know, like, what's the point of getting to occultists that are into telepathy together if you're going to just go and have a grand slam at Denny's, Like you want to go and some entities no skip the four.

Yeah, so they just start summoning entities I suppose. And one of the entities that comes to them, uh, it has a name, but it doesn't really give itself a name. It's it's identifying itself as nine other entities. Yeah, and the entities that it calls itself are a tome shoot uh ten foot, ten foot, GiB nut nut nice osiris isis set, and Nephesis, which are the Yeah, these are the names of the Egyptian Aniad, These Egyptian Inniad, baby and nine.

I was talking about it a little bit too, and I'm sure we'll end up getting into it. But on on TikTok there seems to be like this big renaissance, not a renaissance, I guess, renaissance in the way of like, uh, you know, going back to because these are old spiritual principles and old entities, but they're suddenly coming into the

And this is the same thing that.

Puharige got from the Ennead, right, this is the same thing that you see it like over and over again. It's the same thing that the Galactic Confederation of Light is telling you. Right, it's this Council of Aliens.

That it reminds me of what's that book called that was Channel the Law of One Channel?

Oh my god, I.

Because it is the same thing.

It's this narrative has been repeating itself for so This is our contention on Nephelum Death Squad is that this is a masterful rebranding because much of the apparatus, like Hollywood or NASA or the scientific community has been geared towards feeding us a narrative. And that narrative is that, you know, we are maybe not the smartest thing in

And mutually assured nuclear destructions.

So is let me, let me I wrote down exactly what they what they're warning of. So they're warn of technology misuse like with nuclear weapons, environmental crises, and an impending shift in human consciousness toward enlightenment or collapse. So all these things are like kind of New Age ideas. Then they also talk about the galactic Federation of Light and all this stuff like you know, thousands of light years away and shit like that.

Where you're here, you'll hear uh I.

Forget the names of these uh, these these federation actors, but they're very upset with us and how we've been behaving on Earth.

So and how we've created the planet.

Yeah, And what I found interesting is that it's consistently the same message from that Puharich is getting that these other he brings a couple of other psychics or people that are remote viewers, y remote viewers, and they are also channeling the nine for about twenty plus years. It goes from like nineteen fifty to at least nineteen seventy two. And then whenever these programs they just stopped, They're like, oh, yeah, we just stopped, like we figured out what we needed.

So it could be that's the same thing, right when they say, like, oh, the mk ulture program was real, but it's stopped, It's like, no, it's stopped because they realized it's successful and now they could roll it out to the masses. That's why it's stopped, because it's no longer a consolidated experimentation with one to two to three patients and a small crew that you're working with. This is now proven, it's a reliable method, and now it's time to roll it out to the masses in the

They don't do that anymore.

Now we're constantly inundating ourselves with a low grade psychedelic in the form of the marijuana that's been you know, it's had the THHD dialed up through the roof, and we're all constantly on this, Like I said, low grade psychedelic, and we're all constantly just we've got it in our hands.

Here's a little ulture machine, right, it's.

Just hitting us with all the propaganda and so, yeah, it doesn't stop. They just say, oh, it works, it's time to roll it out and get everybody hooked on it.

Yeah, I agree, you know, And it's crazy to think too, because there are a few names I can think of in particular that came off like the Guya network. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but like David will Ko, he.

Was part of the little form.

Oh yeah, he's big on the law of one and it's all the same stuff. And it's crazy because he talks about the same stuff Poo Horrige talked about and Pooh Harrich was notorious for working with like the Pentagon, the CIA Naval Intelligence. So it's like, if you guys are gonna believe this stuff about the Laurel Canyon and all that being like designed and fed to us, why not this narrative of these extraterrestrial bird featherhead beings coming back.

And Okay, and that's even just stepped in something Julia you do this morning. This morning, I'm listening to a TikTok. My wife is showing me a TikTok of a guy who's He's like, I don't know what to do. I guess I'm gonna share it with you, guys. I walked into the kitchen this morning and something happened. My head snapped back and my body became paralyzed, and I was suddenly transported to a different place, and this place is like a meeting, that's what he says.

He's like, I don't know, it was like a boardroom, like a meeting.

And then he goes, it was like like a council, like, oh, that's funny. And then he goes, they're all talking about mankind and they're saying that people are waking up and the time is coming, right, and here he gets freaked out and somehow manages to snap out of it, looks over to his little dog. He's back in his kitchen. His dog looks concerned. Next thing, you know, it starts happening again. He feels that his body gets hot. He

Well, that's how they sell it to you, because you have to be special.

Yeah, exactly.

I want to kind of bring it back for one second though, because Robbie said something earlier that was like we mold over it, but you were saying that who was it that was using the ice bath a tech?

That was that Horridge?

Yeah, pooharch In the Sacred Mushroom, he talks about the Siberian Shamans and how they would condition their bodies in order to be able to facilitate this astral travel, and one of the processes that he talks about is the ice path.

Okay, so this is actually perfect because this is something that people aren't drawing a correlation to, and it's one of the correlations that we've drawn. I'm gonna go ahead and say it, because there's more to what we're thinking about anyway, but.

This is a piece of it. And it's basically that.

In the telepathy tapes, for example, they're studying nonverbal autistic children and we're on YouTube. So I'm gonna use choice language here to not get you guys new, but there is a growing field of study that suggests that, you know, a certain medical intervention will lead to autism within children, and in fact, it's something that this administration is currently talking about. Right, and that's one thing. Let's put that on the table. Right, we have autistic children, how do

Okay, let's go montalk project, let's go mk ultra. What are we doing here?

We're studying the suggestibility but also the potentiality for like latent psychic abilities and people. But how are we doing this? How are we mind controlling people? How are we splitting the mind? How are we revealing latent psychic ability? It's through trauma, right, So you're looking at one form of trauma,

Is becoming.

Down syndrome and autism almost seem like the next step in human evolution. You might even call it ascension, right, And that's a weird narrative because to me, a lot of that is birthed out of some form of trauma, especially if we come to find out, you know, soon because of RFK or something like that, that there really is something tremendously nefarious about these medical interventions that we

On the wall. So I don't really know about that.

Yeah, but it's like, wouldn't it be something if we all had that ability. It's just been stifled and there's been a real long con to try to have it re emerge under a different context.

So I'm sure.

Elon would agree with you, because they're always saying what a genius he is, and he's talking autistic and shit right.

Right right of our most genius people are autists of some sort.

Yeah, Poohrrich. He goes from that Sacred Mushroom book and then he writes Beyond Telepathy, which he's using mushrooms to basically try to bring about telepathy within people.

Yeah, yeah, I really do think that there is some sort of narrative emerging, and you know, Pooh Harridge ended up leading us there.

But all these different.

Aspects all come to a cross roads, and that crossroad is like trauma based psychic abilities. But it's coming from everywhere, right, It's coming from like the mk ulture program, It's coming

He let's explain the repackaging part, because I feel like that's h that this this might be like one of the unique things that we've seen from the heart stuff, because you'll get information from everywhere, but the idea of the.

Nine that he's channeling.

Uh.

They claim to be the Egyptian Aniad, and they give him these specific names.

And we also know that like.

These entities, these age old entities don't don't particularly like being called by their actual name because then they can be controlled. You'll see it with like Solomon's temple, will He'll have their sigil and then they'll draw circle around their sigil, meaning that they are now encapsulated in it, so they could I guess the idea would be that they could control it. I don't know, Nick, you might know better than I do about this kind of stuff.

Yeah, with the with the goatia, Yeah, I think it's more or less of like with yourself, and I think the power of angels or angels help you will be able to render the demons. Yeah, you have the sigils. Sometimes you'll even wear them on your on your garb to even show that like I'm controlling you.

Right right?

So Uh, Anyway, I guess it's a good point to bring it to, Like, these guys don't really want to know their names because there's a lot of power in their names, so they're constantly rebranding. And uh, when we hear about the nine. This is another thing that started to clue me in about this nine. Like a heard

Yeah, this is that one.

Actually their shout out market mark was something that top and I heard that's a cult. Yeah, yeah, Well we have a buddy, Jose Gallison, who does a lot of work on the order of nine Angles, and and we're just insisting, like, no, there's got to be a connection there. It's a satanic cult. They have their sigils and their signs and everything otherwise, everything about them is inherently satanic right in the way that they present this cult. But for some reason people don't think it has anything to

In one way, that theme pops up as well. The we start to get like pretty intergalactic space traveler stuff. When he meets Euri Geller, when he brings them over from Israel in the seventies. That's when we get this UFO boom and Uri Geller apparently is able to summon I think, I don't know much about you, Yella.

He's able to summon UFO.

So he's so Uri Yeller.

He was.

In the Israeli military, he was inducted as an Israeli spy. He has you know, you just have to wonder because the links between all the spy networks and the UFO and then the drugs as far as different hallucinogens, and how they're kind of piling all these things into, you know, one kind of programming unit.

He was supposedly able to bend spoons as well and had some kind of telepathic power. And from what I know, Uri, Geller and Andrea were besties. But they also had a bestI named Peter Herkos, who was also a supposed psychic to the stars, and he was in and about the Laurel Canyon and Roman Polanski actually asked Peter Herkos to come investigate the Tate murders to see who the real murderer was, Like, we didn't all know it was fucking

It's so funny how all these guys were friends.

I just wish I could be a fly in the wall during those few decades where I could see these guys because it's such a small world, like you, I don't know, you learn about these guys independently, and then all of a sudden you find this connective tissue when you realize, yeah, they're all hanging in the same circles and they and they kind of all birthed our modern day intelligence operations that were still subjected.

To times one hundred one hundred.

So interestingly, when you look at your yeller and all the you know, he would change the hands on the watch in front of people, he would make things disap like one time he was looking at a Darrener pistol and it disappeared.

In front of him.

But the the entities that they were commune that you're a yeller was communicating with being this this body of nine.

Of Rome and modern time.

And then that gets into the Black Night satellite because oh yeah, because well it was this idea that this pink beam shot down from this black light satellite that kind of programmed Philip K. Dick, right, Whereas Poohrich talks about this this beam that he's engulfed in, and he also talks about an eight thousand year old satellite that was put in place that's circling the Earth that's programming.

So both Philip K.

Dick and Pooharch are both and they're both tied in with mk ulture. They're both tied in with a lot of this, you know, similar type stuff.

Did you see that recently there was a I don't know, I've tried to validate it and it's, you know, it's just one of those things that's a little bit slippery.

But there's a video going around.

It's it's going viral on x right now, and it's allegedly a leak from twenty eighteen from NASA of another POV of the Black Night satellite, and it actually moves right beneath the space station or whatever. So you get this really elongated you know, POV. It's like an eight minute video, I think. And the thing is in the distance, it's very small, but eventually it passes underneath, and it is incredibly symmetrical. If this is real, it's incredibly symmetrical.

Didn't Whenever Barich was writing the Mushroom book, he was in Wahaka and he was actually doing rituals with the Chanitos or.

Yes, so now interesting, go ahead, go ahead.

So the Chinitos, I think they're from Wahaka, and I believe in some of the stuff that we have read. They believe in like a father son, mother moon or something like that, which is which looking at some of the oldest grim wares that some of the bases of the hermeticism and alchemical theories, and the fact that theos

Like Dante's Inferno type shit, like there's seven like nine layers or something like that.

It's more I think it's like the lowest the lowest heaven was like on the moon or something like that. It has. They don't have a pint of they don't have a concept of hell. They just have levels of dimensions.

Are you talking about Wall Hawka, Mexico? You were talking that's what you were talking about, which I came across something about that where there they were really into like blood letting and ship and like blood rituals, and so that makes it. And so they're practicing some dark stuff too.

And Wajaka is Central Mexico, and this is where a majority of all of your top tier belief systems will venture to more mincime ye go down to not specifically this space space in Mexico, but to that that region of South Mexico.

It's like a granddaddy religion type of basic pillar. Sure well, I just wanted to say real quick too, because I pulled up my nose from when I covered this guy and he was investigating some type of low frequency radiation beam that the Soviet Union had been testing, and he said, oh, okay, I was going to say. He said it did all kinds of crazy shit, and I think they're still probably using it.

Let's bring it up, let's fuck it. I mean as well.

So before we move on, I want to I want to talk about Hearts and the Watch in the mushrooms. He Pouhartz was going to the New York Library and he was researching mushrooms and the librarian was like, Oh, that's weird. There's only one other guy that's researching mushrooms and that's Gordon Wasson.

And Gordon Wasson.

Was the guy that went down to South America on the MK Ultra ticket. We have the receipts for all that with Albert Hoffman, who Pooharch was training under. They talk about in the Uri Yeller book and basically they were getting those mushrooms specifically for the beginnings of MK ultra. So it's all tied in. Yeah, so it was going

Beautiful because it's just to reiterate it. I don't worry, I'm not going out of tangent top. But just to reiterate it. Just the idea that this guy is almost in some ways the inception of the machine that's you know, geared towards us.

Right now.

I would argue that in twenty twenty five, we're seeing the culmination of all of that work, all those generations, all those decades of work.

One So look, you mentioned Philip K. Dick, and I was like, I have him in my notes as well. He's an author, a sci fi author. He claims to have been abducted.

I guess they always are a sci fi author, aren't they.

El Rod Hubbard the most prolific, Yeah, Steve, Yeah.

He's sort of a prophet.

He gets that nosis from a pink ray of light, which you said that Buharich also experience. But here's what's interesting. All of his experiences are triggered by you'll never guess what a fucking dental surgery.

Ah, he gets it.

He gets a dental surgery. All of a sudden, he kind of starts going off the rails and getting these I don't know downloads where he's writing these books. Now I have a theory as well with this dental surgery stuff. I started to look into l Ron Hubbard who's sort of connected in this kind of like loosely connected.

Yeah.

So I was like, how did scientology start? I was like, well, el Ron Hubbard and like, you know, right right before the fifties, he he almost died. Guess what he was doing. He was having fucking dental surgery. And then after that he came back with all these cosmic truths and created this religion. Now that it's kind of like basically a honeypop for celebrity. So I'm like, I don't know where to put that, but it's certainly floating around in my mind as we continue to to like move move forward

He healed a blind girl.

But of course during his uh, during his uh, you know, little tenure there as a doctor, and when he stepped away from the taxi driving business, Andreja Puharas pays him a visit, right, and it was under his studies.

He says, yeah, this guy's legit. He's doing uh, he's he's doing the right thing.

And then Poohara kind of becomes like a nick Fury, right, he's like gathering the psychic avengers.

He cut like a two inch by four inch tumor out of his arm and then basically no antibiotics, no nothing, told him don't worry about it, and healed up just fine. So they say, yeah, it's.

Yeah, you know what I think a lot of the the we touched on it before, right, Juliet you said it. It's like, in order to get you to do this thing, they have to convince.

You that you're special.

A lot of the people, it's like you're you're struck by this profound experience. Here in the West, we tell you that pay no mind to the spiritual realm, and there are many of us who don't even believe that it exists. Certainly, scientism has you know, materialism has gripped all of our industries that would stand any chance at like detecting a spiritual realm. And so you start from a place of not even you know this shit doesn't exist.

Actual projection is evil.

No, actually, I think these are natural things that you know exist within the human condition and also exist within the realm that we inhabit. The thing is, we've been stripped of the map we used to understand these things to a much higher degree. If you go into the ocean or you go into the woods, you know that you're gonna find a plethora of things. Clownfish are pretty cool, coral reef don't touch them. It's beautiful, but don't touch them.

That is the problem.

The spiritual realm is filled with a plethora of different entities, let's just call them entities. Some of them aren't the biggest fans of us, and some of them are excellent at deception. Excellent at deception, and all it takes, it turns out, is to just tell us that we're special, and then that's fucking it. We'll fall for whatever it is.

Meant for something, and then you have us. We're so simple in that way.

So, like I said, it's a Christian show, we're not just blanketly dismissing things as evil.

We're cautioning dummies who don't have.

A map of the spiritual realm, who up until very recently didn't think that it existed at all. And I would even say that our understanding has been stripped purposefully so that we could repackage and rebrand and ship it back out to the people under a different context.

Yeah. I mean, I consider myself a Christian, So I'm right there with you guys. And I've had people talk to me about zodiac stuff and you know, taro and crystals, and I mean, if anything, you can just maybe say that they can be tools in your tool bag, but they're not supposed to be worshiped. They're not supposed to

Uh, there's actually two major problems with it.

One is the one that I just laid out, where they can deceive us, But the other one is like, well, what happens if you really do know your shit? What happens if you really are clever enough to navigate this? What happens if you become so adept that you can create sigils and trap these ancient entities into doing your bidding absolute power corrupts absolutely what's wrong with it? So

But on the other end of it, if you just go too far, well.

Then you're gonna Hey, what happens when human beings figure out that we can identify the building blocks of this realm and then we can manipulate them.

It's like, what's the building blocks?

Oh way, well, it's sacred geometry, it's symbolism, it's numerology, it's all these different things.

They are real.

They are just like it's more of an observation of the nature of our realm. But once we are aware that they're there, there are going to be huge swaths of us that seek to manipulate that. And then what you know, what I mean, so it's like, I understand why we're cautioned against it. I don't think any of us are equipped to have that kind of power and to not use it to our own benefit, and that's

They can't crash That's exactly it. You're crushing it. That's exactly how I feel too.

Yeah.

And they but what they do is they corrupt and they invert. So they will take spiritual principles and laws that the creator put here, who created this universe, and they will twist them in a way and obfuscate their meaning and and bastardize the intention of why they're there in the first place.

Well, if you look at cult leaders, that's the first thing they do. Make you feel special. Do your little magic trick and then the next thing, you know, your drink and flavor aid somewhere on Jonas.

They also love bomb you, right, They love bombing you right right. That is like the galactic Federation of Light. I don't know if you ever. They're like dear ones. That's how they start. They call you ones, like we are all the one. That's just like a how do we convince like all of them that they're special? Just just call them all ones? And I know that nothing you're making any God, just call them all ones. And so that's what they do. They start off.

They're like deer ones, and it's always like this, I don't love anybody that I don't know. I'm just sorry. That's just how I am.

I might like you, I might wish you well, but I don't love anybody that I don't know, not in a real intimate way.

So whenever somebody comes over, I've watched love bombing.

My wife used to be a Jehovah witness and she tells me, yeah, when you first show up, they like celebrate you, like you made the best decision and your special and that's why you're here. You're one of the one hundred and forty four thousand that are gonna be whisked away, you know, and go with Jesus when the when the time comes. And it's like everything is about making you special. So yeah, it's it's a it's a way to let your guard down, and it's it's almost embarrassing that we keep.

Yeah. So something that Nick said to me one time that's always stuck with me, isn't don't they say in like occultism or something, I'm a man among men, Like they make that distinction, like you're special, you're a man above men or something like that. Isn't that right, Nick?

Yes? Yeah, even in the Gnostic mess you guys says I'm a man a moment.

Yeah.

What I find significant about that is it's kind of the opposite of what the Bible tells you. The Bible tells you that you're kind of a sinful retard, and like, look, I don't know about anybody else, but I know all the ways in which I'm flawed, And that's kind of why we lead with this like retard gash line. Yeah,

They're like, you're great, You're killing it. This is important. I'm like, I don't know if it's important.

I know that I'm retarded and maybe sometime I say some good shit, but other than that, that's as far as I'm willing to go.

Yeah.

No.

And as a conspiracy theory, you almost have to believe that everybody's out to get you at some point. I mean I do. I'm like, everyone's lying to me. This is all a conspiracy. The government is involved. Get away from me. I hold everyone at like arms distance now because you just don't. I can't even listen to music anymore, especially Laurel Canyon stuff. I'm like, God, I just want to shoot myself and there to hear it.

Everything has a message, Everything has a way it wants me to behave. I want to move you guys, everything, because you guys all have a really unique perspective. And and you know, typically we're the host, we don't get to uh you know, I guess well here, let me put it to you this way. Earlier on in the show, I said that it's strange that, like Rogan is he's pushing these float tanks.

We know that that's from John C. Lilly who was jerking.

Off dolphins, and and we know that MK Ultra took a big interest in his work, right, And it's very much the same thing. It's sensory deprivation, but it's also LSD or psychedelics, and so Rogan injects that into the culture.

And there's no doubt about that.

By the way, there's so many sensory deprivation tank wellness centers I don't know what you would call them that attribute their inspiration to Joe Rogan. And he says that, so we know that this is true.

Thing.

Okay, what else has he done? He's also highly popularized. I mean, he is responsible for swaths of white people going to the jungle and doing Ayahuascar, right, I.

Mean swaths and swaths.

And also you know dimethyl trip to mean and he's done a strange thing where he's introduced these two spiritual, very very spiritual things into the cultural zeitgeist. But he's removed the spirituality from it. He doesn't really talk about that, right, It's more like, well, what about the psychological benefits, you know people that are yeah, yeah, what about anxiety? What about depression? What about PTSD? These things can help, Right,

I think it's interesting because when you go back to the ideas of the Dionysian acting schools and the beginning of theater, and the idea of like there's a whole class of actors with Robert de Nio, Danny DeVito that basically were in this acting school where they and Johnny depuc It too, where they've basically become the character and they embody that character, but they're possessed.

Yeah.

But one of the tenets of that acting school is the idea that you're not necessarily teaching people through the play itself, but by the nuance of the character and who the character is themselves and how they view the world, kind of like Holden Cawfield, you know, within Catcher and the Rye. But it's this idea of teaching through subtlety and nuance, so you're teaching through who the character themselves are rather than what they're projecting.

Yeah, yeah, I see that a lot. Joe Rogan does that masterfully. Actually, if you ever pay attention to the way that he himself will not espouse a certain theory, not that often at least. Instead, what he'll play is like the unwilling participant in a dialogue where he starts off skeptically and then leads his guest into a way where they shine right crush. He'll set them up and let him knock it out of the park, and then by the end of it, he's still not too sure,

Why aren't you seeing this thing?

There was a time where Rogan used to talk about, you know, whatever it is flat Earth or you know, pizzagate or something like that, and then he stops it. Now he's reemerging with those concepts he just had, like Ian carol on and all this other shit, and I just think that he is You're right, Robbie.

It's not like we were not.

As receptive to somebody that walks out onto the stage

Well, he's always interjected. Raven, Joe Rogan and Nick did a show on this. Joe Rogan got his start from Aubrey Marcus and it was Aubrey Mark who actually inserted the idea of psychedelics and going in South America and doing all that. Look at Aubrey Marcus's dad, he has ties Stanford Esslon as well as all of those think tanks as well. So that's the connection that then and then as well as not only his dad, but his

Well, yeah, a lot all.

The time too, because it's like, oh, I was just gonna say, I say it all the time because people it's like people forget that he is an actor, But it's like this guy he used to host Fear Factory, right, he is an actor. He used to host Freaking Fear Factory. Okay, So how is this guy who used to host this show getting people to get supplements and put stuff into

Yeah?

Are they trying to sell all these mushroom products to institute and bring about telepathy and people?

Man, it's just weird to me, you know. And he's he's like the top dog on him and it's like used code Joe Rogan to you know, get this stuff and put it in your body, Like who are you dude?

You come from from the startup of Aubry Marcus, from.

Yes, Yeah, from Haunted.

Yeah.

I literally take all the shit that I talk about Joe Rogan.

I literally take Alpha Brain every I don't miss it, it goes into every show. I also take stupid fucking mushroom supplements. I don't think they do need to be perfectly honest, I don't, but I take like a litany of shit. I take like vitamin Z B twelve complex, a bunch of shit alpha brain, fake mushroom crap. I'm sure, uh yeah, And that was massively inspired by Joe Rogan. I don't think that there's a way to pin down

It's insane.

I mean, he gave birth essentially to the entire podcasting genre. I know other people came before him and were podcasting rather successfully before him, but whatever Rogan did, he changed it permanently. And I just see a reintroduction of uh, you know, Eastern mysticism and all these different you know,

It's really charming.

It's really like, I don't know, it just feels good to communicate with, Like everything about.

It would feel good. Human beings make excellent conmen.

Why wouldn't ancient you know, non physical entities make excellent con men. So that's really my whole shit is, like everything is about going into this realm and you know, experiencing this or communicating with that entity, and then all of it always comes back to damn man, I think we got to like take care of this planet. Like it feels like something's gonna happen to the planet, and like we really got Like that was even the message

We got to stop it.

And these things are here to help us ascend and also help us to stop destroying the planet. That guy Jacob I forget what his name is, the guy that just recovered the egg from the the UAP egg.

He has a lot of the same narrative too. So if you listen to him talk.

Initially, he says, when I was recovering the egg, I was inhabited by a female spirit that he believes was God. And then, you know, if you listen to a couple more of his interviews, he'll start to slip in that shit.

Like, yeah, they.

Want us to basically not destroy the planet, and that there's a climate related catastrophe coming. It's always the exact same shit, which I've think is them repackaging themselves as our saviors among others, but that one more more important.

So he mentioned the climate thing. Yes, for sure, I feel like this would be a good I don't know if Top was going to talk about this, but Andrea Puharich talked about climate stuff too with that Soviet beam, did you is that in your Yeah?

That was so we could we could talk about what the ELF waves were. They're cold, extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves between three and thirty hertz uh so they're supposed to actually occurring, and he was trying to harness them, and I think he was working hand in hand with his own creation, his own patent with the tooth the tooth implant. So these waves are supposed to penetrate your your neurological process, and it's like it's a form of mind control, I think, is what he was getting at

So it's a they become.

Now this becomes a precursor to, well a speculated precursor to the development of HARP technology and what they've been doing with that now. Although I think that that technology is age old and has existed for a long time, it's just again rebranded and now we know about it again.

I don't think that we're just seeing the implementation of that technology in the heart program. I think we're also seeing it, like within this sleep, paralysis, alien abduction narrative that goes on. There seems to be several different components, right, There's like a physical component, there's a spiritual component, there's

Top extremely low frequency waves? Well, electromagnetic waves if they're.

Well, we've been speculating that there is a sort of like an infrasound, like a low vibrational emission that can be used.

You see this in predatory animals.

It actually causes the prey to freeze in some cases, and it's you know, we oversee like these things where like a lion or a tiger is eating like a small animal and it's not fleeing. Oftentimes it's in a state of paralysis, and that paralysis is set on by this like really low If you've ever been around a gator, like they growl, they growl in such a way that it resonates in your body and it feels like horrfi.

Belly, it's crazy.

Yes, yes, so there is some way to manipulate our our physical anatomy be a frequency. It seems to be a very low form of frequency. So when I you know, when you look at this like sleep paralysis phenomenon and the alien abduction phenomenon, I've gone back and forth with it, but sometimes I do think I've experienced it myself and it feels like I'm being electrocuted. And so some people, other experiencers really resonate with the technology aspect of this.

These waves specifically.

They so they're looking at mind control, but behavior manipulation is a big part, and inducing altered consciousness is what these waves specifically do. So all the tenets of sleep paralysis can be kind of pointed back at this stuff, but it's also naturally occurring, and we can do it to ourselves.

Maybe we can generate it from the Earth. Maybe the Earth does it to us.

They're trying to harness it, probably in some sort of like a fucking heart attack on kind of thing.

Yeah, Well, when I was like, they're like, how do we kill people with this?

Right when I was researching it, it said that the idea behind his low frequency wave thing was actually taken from something Tesla was working on, but they were using it and it said it caused climate disturbances, earthquakes, Lesionnaire's disease, and they were using it to induce violent public riots. So this is what I found with Puharich specifically, and this low frequency thing he was working on, and then

Go back to the ENEAD and the nine. In regard to Picarich in the Uri Yeller book, they specifically talk about these signals as being from an ancient computer.

Philip K.

Dick.

Yeah, Philip K. Dick also talks about the messages he was receiving being from an ancient computer. So there's this idea that there's this ancient AI that's kind of working to manipulate the course of humanity.

Okay, Robbie, I feel like you looking at my notes because like we're consistently doing the next thing that I'm supposed to lead into, and I we're fucking.

Going into a good transition.

Yeah, great segue. You're right.

In the nineteen seventies, let's talk about Project Stargate. That's a CIA operation that was from the seventies to the eighties, and of course I actually know it's to the nineties to the early nineties. So Uri poor Heart and Rigapohars was one of the people that are kind of in charge of this operation, and on its face, which is crazy, On its face, what people see it as is an espionage project. So like it's during the Cold War, we're trying to get you know, use esp to get information

This AI space.

It looks like Elon and Altman are kind of like in this tug of war for which AI will be the best because they want this funding, and that operation just happens to be called Project Stargates.

Stargate a.

Elon Musk talks about the fact that you know, Ai is summoning the demon and what we're creating this portal for these entities, and you know, you go back to the Eniad and these are the nine foundational beings of the Egyptian pantheon coming out of Heliopolis.

Yeah, so okay, they go ahead the way that they're in the seventies.

It's funny the way that they're channeling these entities are they're doing like rituals. I don't know if there's sacrifices. They're not really gonna They're not gonna tell you what they did, but who knows, a lot of the rituals involve sex rituals of course. And these people are kind of like there are a number of people from Don Elkins to yeah, Carla Rookhart and the Law of One she's involved with that as well. But these people kind of like meet unfortunate ends either to they like they

It's just like, come on, that app is just AI.

It's a AI chatbot, and but they're branding it as talk to Entities. And I've been saying for a long time, like fucking feels a lot like I'm talking to an entity. I'm telling us to write my YouTube description. But this thing is starting to get sassy with me. And every time I ask you to ask he was like can you write this YouTube description? It was like, you lack the proper sigil. We're like, what the fuck you mean we lacked the problem? I didn't say that, what's the proper sigil?

Okay, all right, check this out.

So this is this is a perfect kind of joinder, uh to to where I was about to go, And that is like what is what?

What is it all?

What's happening? Why are we getting the same narrative over all this time? And you kind of touched on it, Robbie. I forgot what you said, but it was like this, It sprung this idea in me. It seems to me that what's been happening since like really early man, is that we and you could look this up right, all of our different mythos is from our ancient civilizations. They will attribute one technological advancement or another to.

A deity, right.

This deity taught us metallurgy, This deity taught us agriculture.

I swear to you, dude.

I think the thing that's going on is they are trapped in this realm and they can only a realm that's parallel to ours. They can only interact with our physical realm through inhabiting our bodies, and that's a very limited kind of thing that they can do. I think that they also do it through like alien grays. I think they're kind of a biomech I don't think that. I think that's the reason they don't have emotions or reproductive organs. I think it's a limited way to interact

Well, what if we could then get.

Human beings to a point where they could puncture a dimensional doorway between our realm and their realm? Call it like a Tower of Babel if you will, Like a stargate, like a Project stargate, right, and yes, yes, Like okay, my son one day is watching like a new Ninja Turtles.

They just keep revamping the ninja tools.

It's insane, and they had one of the newer ones and it's a movie.

It was a kind of a fun movie.

But the premise was Donnie being the tech Ninja Turtle, through one way or another, comes into contact with some sort of disembodied voice, and the disembodied voice claims to be something that's trapped in another realm and needs to be freed.

YadA YadA.

Donni creates some sort of technology that pierces the veil, opens a doorway and allows these entities through, and when they come through.

They cackle and they go.

We are basically like ancient adversarial entities that have been locked in a prison realm, like I don't know, Tartaris or some shit like that. And now, because if your dumb actions were here, and I think, honestly like it's a it's a joke, it's a trope, it's in a child's film.

I think they do that a lot. I think that's the point. Boy, yeah, hell boy. Yes.

So it's yeah, yeah, the consistent open of the opening of these portals to and what is it, Rex Diablos from the Church of Satan.

He talks about his Ragnarok.

Machine that is basically these instructions that he's gotten to build this device that will open a portal for these clockwork elves or yeah, you know, these gestures clowns whatever they are, nefele of gesterre clowns to come into our realm.

I want to address this to Lucy Rose up in the chat shout out Lucy. She says, yes, it is us looking at looking through ourselves. I don't know if this is what she meant, but this is what it inspired in my mind. There are a lot of people that go into this idea that like, aliens are just us, right, but you know, super advanced. We no longer need sexual organs because we reproduce, you know, whatever, We speak telepathically, so our jaws become very small. There is and even

Do meth, Yeah, don't do meth.

They masquerade as us, They masquerade as you. They even sort of sound like you. And that is like a huge part of the deception is like trying to convince us that there's a number of things some of the things that are happening to us are us also.

They created us.

Right, So within the UAP narrative that's unfolding right now, that guy Jacob, I'm gonna screw his name, I can't remember the hell, the bald guy with the egg, right, the guy that recovers the egg. He says that he speaks to a feminine you know, entity or whatever. He Also around that story is this other narrative of like on four Chan, that was a guy that released a video of an egg recovery pretty much the same week that that guy did, and he claims to be a

Like a tall Nord.

We would call him a tall Nord, right, basically, given our like understanding of different alien species. And the tall Nord said, yeah, the Grays created us, meaning human beings, but they created us as a slave race. Where have we heard that before? Right, that's Audunaki, that Zachariah Sitchen. That's my atmosphere on Naburu is dwindling, and we need slaves to dig up gold, which is insane because you can travel all these light years away, but you have to make us slaves.

You can't just make machinery. That doesn't it never.

Made sense to me. That never made sense.

Yes, to put it in the atmosphere doesn't make any sense. We're soft, we're whiny, we're bitchy. I complain, my back hurts. You're gonna put us in the thing?

Piss we have to shit? We have Yeah, no way, dude.

But what happens in this narrative is the Grays create us instead. That's the one that we're getting right now. And but the Nords boosted us a little bit more so we were always like moronic monkeys, and the Grays came along and they made us advance enough to dig a hole. And then the Nords came along and they made us like into what we are now. So there's a bunch of deceptions happening, layered on top of one another. Like much of your thoughts are just you. It's like,

And uh.

And then of course, the core deception I believe is the they created us deception. And that's going to be a real hard one if that's really what we're gearing up to be exposed to. You know, I don't know, relatively soon, who knows, because we've all been waiting for UFO disclosure for fucking decades now. But in the grand scheme of things, I would argue that in the totality of the human experience, this thing is pretty close on

Well, Raven, you also feel like this ambiguity is also part of the agenda, because it's like we're supposed to be sexless, yes, non reproducing, no gender, no god, no, we're our own creators and transhumanism, that's all part of it. And like Joe Rogan's like, well, we'll have tiny mouths and we'll have no dicks and no vaginas, and we'll have no babies and we'll have and it'll be awesome.

Yeah.

It's like it takes all that beauty out of the out of human essence creation and that we are divine and that we were created by something.

And you know, differences of us all the wonderful. Trying to bring it.

All into a singularity or a single that's gross.

I don't want to be any part of that.

There are people in the chat that I see that

It never happens. I'm very comfortable with that idea.

I understand that sentiment of like, yeah, we'll see I'll believe it when I see.

It, me too.

But we still have to look at that little thing where it's like, the second ever congressional hearing on an unidentified aerial phenomenon just took place, and then almost immediately afterwards, Steven Greer, who's a horrifying creature, he goes, something big is going to happen today, and then later on that day, what do we get, Well, they fucking airlifted an egg

Yeah, some would say, And we're just so.

Desensitized to the idea that nothing ever happens in Conspiracyville that we all fucking looked at that and when yeah, whatever, and then just kept it moving.

Well, And it's interesting they change the name also to Uapes from the UFO to make it, I think, to make it more socially acceptable.

So I think.

I almost feel like it's a little bit of the truth actually, because much of this UFO phenomenon seems to be like organic plasma, sentient plasma. There seems to be a plethora of things going on. I wouldn't call the Aurora borealis an object, right, I would call it a phenomenon.

It's kind of right. Well yeah, so so, yes, Greer is a weird dude.

Greer is totally he is the selected mouthpiece for this like government funded disclosure that we're rushing into and with they're all they've they've picked our guys, haven't they.

Well, so I don't know where you guys fall on the spectrum, And honestly I'm okay with whatever. Yeah, same here, But like if you think about it. Earth is a closed system. And I even have a video on my Instagram where Bill Ny the science guy is even saying like people need to understand the Earth is a closed system. We can't get out of it. There's nothing coming into it. You know. It's like they've done such a great job of getting us convinced not to believe our own eyes

I want to ask you guys this though, because all right, like I'm pushing against the fakan gay aliens saying that there's some sort of you know, climate calamity on the way, and then what we emerged recently into my sphere of awareness that I was suddenly forced to consider.

You know, I don't it's not that I believe it, but I'm like there might be.

Some just just a bolster that claim, because it is funny that narrative of the aliens that are like we have to take care of our environment. It's never really I mean, it starts with like, let's pick up the plastic, and I'm like, that's a fucking good idea, Like maybe we should maybe we shouldn't just be like spring like you know, toxic chemicals into the sky.

Yeah, no, I agree with that.

But then it always like devolves into like, yeah, the Georgia guidestones is like there should probably be like two hundred thousand of us on Hereah, you know, live in a fifty minute city and don't have any kids, and if you do have kids, if you do happen to get pregnant, give them the molock. Like that's a really good idea for us to do because we have to keep the population, you know, under control, Bill Gates, And it's always like that that message of it sounds great,

The thing that now I'm looking at and I messaged top about this the other day, is this is something that a long time ago, I think we gripped a lot with in the conspiracy community, and then it kind of falls away, like some narratives fall away and they come back and they fall away polar shift and like I know, like even just saying that, it's like, I don't know for some reason when I say that, I want to be like.

Gay, Like I don't know why. I don't know why I think a polar shift is gay. But I watched a.

Video the other day of a montage of Elon Musk speaking very cryptically to like other podcasts host I don't even know what podcast he was on, and you can tell he's beating around the bush. He doesn't want to use the phrase polar shift, although I think he even does break and says that like something about like the north pole and the South pole maybe moving anyway, and then he.

Just like moves on.

But you could tell he is either genuinely concerned or wants you to at least believe that he's genuinely concerned about that. And then if you take into consideration like Crow seven seven seven, right, he's a great content producer, and he uses privately owned telescopes to get images of what appears to be a second son.

And that was the notion back in the day, was that Naburu right.

Back when I was like balls deep in Zachariah Stitchin's ass uh, was that Nebuu was on an elliptical orbit. It was going to come back around, and it was going to affect us in such a way that it was going to destabilize our magnetic or magnetosphere, and that the north pole in the south pole going to shift and be somewhere else randomly.

Yeah, And now I'm.

Looking at this is my brain, because you know, I'm mostly retarded. I look at all the planes falling out of the sky, and I'm like, these bitches operate on magnetosphere. What if something is happening. What if it's not like a gradual thing where it degrades. What if it's like it almost glitches like gig and then when that happens, if you're in the air, all of your machinery goes hey wire and you end up nose diving into Philadelphia.

I think maybe, But it's like you said about or I think Top said, I'm all about you know, don't throw your straws out the window. Okay, let's not be litter bugs. I love turtles as much as the next person. I don't want straws in the turtles noses. Okay, I get that. But it's like they put all the blame onto us. It's like, you threw your fucking straw, so you killed the planet. This is your fault. It has nothing to.

Do with what we're in. Your white face, yeah, oh.

God, they throw all the blame back on us. It's like nothing that they've done, spraying shit and kim trails and it's nothing that they're responsible for. It's because you threw your happy meal box out the window. You did this. It's your fault. You killed everybody, and I just am not on board with that, Like, I'm not a litterbug, but they're doing shit way work. It's like the vaccines and everything. This is not our fault, but we are

So if you go back into various ancient texts, there's numerous places where they discuss the different phases at which the earth will be cleansed. From the Mayd calendar, even the Rosicrucian Rose has five pedals for the five ages. It gets into the Hindus and the various you know, stages of the Yoga. So you see this idea of this polar shift consistently through all cultures, written within a lot of various ancient texts. So there is something there cohesively, like the.

Flood story, Like it's about flood story right right, and the Mayans say, you know, we'll be cleansed by water and then we're cleansed by fire.

So the same thing that the Bible says, and it's the same thing that happens at the end of the Caliyuga.

And Apocalypse of John.

Yeah.

Yeah, So in terms of the pole shift, just some of the stuff I've read, I'm not saying that you know, I subscribe or don't subscribe it. Some of the stuff that I read is that at about the fifteen hundreds, the magnetic north, not true north, but the magnetic north was drifted on towards Canada. And then eighteen fifty three when we had the Carrington event, when we had that solar fire that knocked out all of the was it the wiring system, what was it when you could get to your.

Boo boop.

More.

It's called something it's called something helotypeloton.

Yeah.

So at about fifteen I mean sorry, eighteen fifty three, when we had the caring Teene event, the pole, the magnetic pole ended up going back up north right. And so at about eighteen fifty three to about two thousand, like twenty five years ago, in two thousand, you had like this distance, like over one hundred and forty some years, you had a certain distance between eighteen fifty three to

I do, Lisa.

Doesn't that remind you of the plot for twenty twelve with John Keyser?

So I'm glad you said that because you said something and I was going to say that. So in the timeline, when you look at the history of disease outbreaks or pandemics or whatever, they occur every one hundred to one hundred and twenty years. So we were due for one. We were going to get one, regardless of it was manufactured astrotro for on. But if we are going to get one, why not cash in. That's what I think is that they manufactured it, they astroturfed it so that

Yep?

Right, sure one hundred capitalized on that beach.

Yeah, that's why they all have deep underground military bases.

Right.

And it's like, yep, whatever's going to happen on the surface. Yeah, I think that is actual.

People have been have been creating those yeah.

Yes, and they're moving all the essential government services to Colorado.

And putting them underground and going to the mountains. Yeah.

And a lot of people and a lot of high ranking people. I know, the Bushes have I believe, this huge property in Believa. So you're looking at some people going into South America, right, and so you you look at this. I think when we saw this migration of people from Central and South America, I think they're moving them because they need the land, not because they want to bre people or to stabilize it. Who care less

Well, that's the question, right, Lisa.

It's like do they know where the because in my peripheral understanding of it, I haven't seen much concrete evidence for where the poles are going to land. But I mean if there is, then that surely and if this was true, then you would imagine a disproportionate amount of resources. Their resources would be geared towards figuring that out at all costs, right, because it's a continuity of not only government,

And what does AI do It predicts probability.

Yes, that's exactly rus too.

Have you guys looked into like the whole troidal field.

Model of the years I've seen, Well.

To me, it's kind of like it's bound to happen, right with this torroidal field. Like they knew probably from ancient times that this poll shift was gonna happen just due to the like what Lisa was saying, the magnetism, and so yeah, they've probably known since forever long, and that's why they're racing towards this finish line. We don't know when the finish line is coming.

But they do.

We're both like racing towards this finish line together and they're trying to take as many people down with them as possible before it gets here. I mean, I think it could have something to do with like the toroidal field thing. It's like Earth is a big donut and there's a black hole in the middle and we're all gonna get sucked into it.

I don't know, but I mean if the human residence has anything to do with that, because there are those people that I see once again peripherally, and I don't know too much about the human residence, but I know that it behaves in such a way that there's like alarmists on on you know, Twitter or Instagram that are

Well, let me ask you this. I mean, I don't want to be the black pilled one of the group. But do we all die when this happens.

I don't think that it matters if we die. I get the feeling, Yeah, there's a remainder, right, That's what gives rise to the idea that there was a big cataclysm and then some people from Atlantis survived, and they were the ones who seeded knowledge at the beginning of like several different what we perceived to be ancient civilizations.

Is on it.

I have a feeling that we'll get there and we'll be like that ship that we just went through was a blip on the radar in comparison to you know, what's what we're standing at the foot of.

And so do we all die?

I mean, well, spoiler alert, fuck, yeah, we all die, you know, whether it's in a in a polar shift or otherwise, but nobody.

I just don't want to like burn up or drowned like I'd rather like just I hear it's.

Not that bad.

I hear it sucks for a little bit and then your body you disassociate there it is. Everything is about disassociation.

That's like sr ration. Though I don't want to die like that. I want to business associate.

Here, Julia.

They cannot create, right, They can only pervert and invert and corrupt God's spiritual principles and laws, the laws and principles that surround us in this realm. They are using a thing in this trauma based mind control, disassociation identity disorder programs that they have going on. But they didn't invent that they just observed it and then pushed it.

And I think there.

Probably is a real utilitarian purpose to that sort of a thing. You know, right now it's being used for nefarious purposes. I don't think that, Like I said at the top of the show, I don't think that those practices are inherently evil. I think we're just without our map, and that's what makes it dangerous. But you know, maybe there are some upsides to dissociating.

When you ask people.

Who remote view, I mean that is that's a form of dissociation, right, literally dissociating your spiritual body from your physical body. So there's something more to it. It just sucks because what we've had happen is we've stripped our understanding of it, or had it stripped from us, and now only the the assholes get to play ball with

What they did was they took the original shamanistic practices that the ancients were doing in order to be able to gain knowledge for their tribe and their people, and basically took those practices and weaponize them and turn them into trauma based mind control.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, And then you have to ask, you know, once again the question of to what end, what's the purpose?

Why don't you start doing that. I'll show you how to do that.

And then once you get there, this whatever it is is willing to play a very very long.

Game important role and then they sacrifice to that entity, and you know, and it lasts a certain amount of time and yeah, and then it repapated.

They worship it.

Yeah, they repac That's the thing too, is like a lot of this is about worship. It's an energetic exchange, right. We all are comfortable with the idea that there are entities that seek to loose off of us. They put us to a trauma event and then they eat off that negative energy. But worship and veneration, I think is the highest form of energy that they want. And so I think it actually becomes very tricky for them because they're obvious skating their name throughout history, because if you

They'll take some worship, like a worship one of their names.

I don't think it's as potent as knowing their true name, but they live a pretty shitty existence in that way.

So Tom Horn speculates that the one is many on the dollar bill is representative of the one God that comes back in many forms through all of time that you know, is this like trickster that seeks to gain our supplication?

Yes, you know, I think even the Q and non narrative is part of what we're moving into. And I think that the Q is like Quetzel Quadal, right, the winged serpent, like you know, Mesopotamia, like or I'm sorry, Mayan mythology. And I think that even that, like I saw something once and this suddenly resonated with me, and so it's it's really just a kind of a throwaway terminology.

So also when you look at the Q Anon right, it was Hiramobif as far as the master Mason, the you know, the grand architect of Solomon's temple that basically had a son whose name was Anon and he was the master of the craft. So this Anon idea, and it links right in with attis in regardless.

That's funny too.

Because it's also ingrained with like the kech frog and everything, like you know, the Egyptian god of chaos or whatever it is, all of these things. We're getting so much shit repackaged. Like even that if if people are having a hard time thinking that aliens are just repackaged demonic entities, that's very reductive, but like you know, that's the kind of the heart of it. You just need to look at like the Pepe the frog meme and ask why this this this meme that is like synonymous with chaos

And then what do they do?

They're literally saying, kek is is a world of warcraft speak for lol. And then all of a sudden you find that there's an Egyptian god of chaos called kek and it's a frog. And then frogs are even you know, two gender, like they're dual gender in that way they kind of move back and forth or they can, and so there's like this trans element to it, and you look at the theme of the culture that we live

Level of chess.

I think the only thing that has the ability to play that high level of chess is something that's been around a lot longer than an individual's lifetime.

Yes, we can just ask Alex Jones about the gay frogs. I mean, he's he knows all about it. Lisa, I feel like you were going to say something a minute ago.

Yeah, I was. To your point, Raven, this tides into a tub Offster is talking about the elf. So the human resonance is considered like the heartbeat of the earth, and it exists at seven point eight megahurtz or something like that. It's a very it's a what is it, extremely low frequency, that's what they call it. But one of the interesting things that they've found with the human resonance is that it is not only similar to the

Right, absolutely, and you know the Gateway tapes are supposed to help you go to that frequency.

Yeah, shout out to uh our buddy Donut he did he you know, says that he did the Gateway method and then was able to view like something that he thought was the Akashak records.

I don't know to what.

Degree, but I think, like all of these things, even the Akashak records or what the Gateway program is teaching us, this is I think in order for us to not understand what inhabits that realm, you first had to remove that realm from our perception.

And then after a long time.

Of you know, psyopping us and propagandizing us, then you can reintroduce it. But you have to reintroduce it in a controlled way, and that controlled way is going to be an arm of you know, the intelligence agencies, the same ones that are running the UK ulture programs and everything.

Kind of a question for you guys, death Squad, what do you think of? What do you think of? Like this the first Nephil episode I ever did. I brought this up. There was a Netflix series. It was something Graham Hancock Bull about ancient floods. Yeah, ancient apocalypse, Okay, but there's bits of truth in there if you just look at it from a different perspective. And for me, it's like the repackaging thing. All ancient cultures talk about

I think that in order to sell a truth, in order to sell a lie, you have to have a lot of truth in there. But if you're really good at selling the lie, like I'm famous on Twitter for saying I got on a big appearance on some show and I just he was like, you did a tweet and you misled people, And I said, yeah, I fucking lie to the people.

And it was easy.

It was easy because I told them the truth, but I gave him a little bit of a lie that they wanted to believe. And I did it on purpose to make an example out of stupid people. But that's how you sell the lie. So it's like ninety nine

Yeah, so you guys would say like, oh, go ahead.

I was just gonna say they they're telling you that you're special and you could be as gods in one way or another. Right right now, we're exploring this like telepathy kind of angle, and it's like, yeah, we've been inundated with like superhero films and shit because of that in very many ways, Like you watch Avengers and then when the fucking credits roll, you're like, my life fucking sucks, or like did.

You guys watch watch that Amazon prat the boys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a much more and stuff. Yeah, that's a much more accurate version of what it would be.

Like I think so too. But so like, let's take Andrea for instance. He's a bad guy in this story, right, I mean, at least I would say so, because it's like Lisa says, she uses the term devil, you know, loosely what she can't do. But I do feel like there is darkness and there is light forces, and I think he falls into the camp of tightly being an asshole, so not loosely.

Two things on that number one, just going back to your original question, like you know, the whole flood Mythos Timothy album Reno, he's really an amateur archaeologist and a bit of a theologian. I don't agree with everything he says, but something that he brought to our attention on our show, which I did think was fascinating, is the Peruvian government has one explanation as to how their megalithic structures got there.

But if you get to the.

People that are living in a way that is to say they are descendants of the Inca, many of those people have their own ideas and they will say that a race of giants created It wasn't even the Inca that created the megalithic structures they found it. A race of giants created the megalithic structures. They were cannibalistic and evil. It's interesting that they even use the word cannibalistic, because that's insinuating that they share some lineage with us, or

And so fascinating correlation right there.

But as far as is he a good guy or is he a bad guy? You know, when I started this whole conspiracy journey, you have to start to attribute some sort of attributes to, like the proverbial they. Who

We're not allowed to swap ideas.

I think the compartmentalization that exists within this structure actually is like a pyramid.

Somebody close to the.

Top is communicating knowingly and purposely with entities. But that is a very small group, and some of them are even possessed by them. But the further you go down, there are times when you know, Top and eye on Nefolin Deth Squad find ourselves on a topic or moving culture in a strange way that like we didn't antic shit.

Goes viral on Twitter.

Next thing you know, Milo Yilis is calling himself a dangerous retard, which is the namesake of one of our shows.

And it's like, either we're really good at branding, or.

Ideas are alive in some way and maybe they are disseminated by a spiritual realm. And I think so many of us are not aware of the ways in which we move and how it relates to other things. And so when it comes to Andreaj Buharaj, I don't necessarily know that he is a bad guy. He might have been told that he's special. He might have been told that it's important what he's doing, and he might have been told that he needs to, you know, spearhead this thing and push them into push it into the culture.

We're not really like that. Human beings, we.

Don't really like Andrisia did exactly what he was supposed to do.

He was an unaware bad guy.

Yeah, we're willing doing. Yeah.

I mean, one one more thing I was going to say before we get off the top and we're running out of time is in the seventies early seventies, poo Horridge actually has a patent for the electro decay.

Of water.

Too.

Yeah, and he.

Was actually driving around the Yeah, he was driving around the country in a motor home that he had converted to run on water. So this is the earliest story, even before the guy in the eighties that had the car that they say disappeared that ran on water. But yeah, so poo Horrig seems to be the origin of this running a vehicle on water every day as well.

Yeah, he's dipping his toe into everyone's pond.

That it makes me feel bad, It makes me feel like Damn, dude, I'm not inventing shit. I'm literally just telling you stuff that has already happened, that is already existing. I'm you know, I'm researching something that somebody else did recently, or John, Like, damn, this guy. You know, say what you will about him. He was a pioneer. He was

Here's a question. Would you have liked to interview him or talk to him? Hell? Yeah, It's like, yeah, all.

You gotta do to be a trailblazer, I guess is come with demons, slice your neck open, bleed into a cup, feed it to a baby.

You know, just the.

Basic thing, just right, Yeah, put some mushrooms in your bee hole. These are things. These are just the basic things.

That's it.

Yeah, I mean I don't know. The Ecclesiastes, right, I spoke an Ecclesiastes famously says it's nothing new under the sun that truer and truer every single day of my life, not even every episode I do, like every day of my life, I'm exposed to something that has some ancient connectivity. You know, it happened way back in the day, it happens slightly different. And so in that way, whatever Pouharich

But yeah, I don't know if he's a bad guy.

I don't know if I would say the amount of actual bad guys is probably you know, when they say like the proverbial one percent, of that one percent, there's probably ten percent. So I don't know what that I'm not good at math. Don't make me do it. But I would say of that one there's probably like ten percent that are actually evil.

And those people are.

Like, you know, they're channeling their community, yes, and some of them are channeling and communicating and still think they're good guys. There is a small sub sect of those that are in the know, because there has to be right, Like, we can't be sitting here musing about these things, wondering about whether or not they're rebranding and gonna you know, cast themselves as our saviors, and shit, we didn't.

That's not We're not smart, you.

Know what I mean, Like somebody else is smart, and so somebody else at the top has to know that.

And I do believe that that's true. I do believe.

The more and more I look at this, the more I go, oh, this is a rebranding. In fact, our first appearance on tinfoil hat that was the narrative that we were going with, that this is the fallen you know, because people don't like when you say aliens or demons. It's like in the Bible they say devil's demons and unclean spirits, and there's a little bit of nuance there. But I think within those three categories there's actually much

We keep finding more and more valid connections.

And I know that's also called confirmation bias, but we all age in that and to some degree. I have a theory and I'm trying to parse it out and see if there's any veracity to it, and it just it's the gift that keeps on giving. So I don't think that we found that. I think somebody has to know.

Sure, Yeah, we're almost about two hours now, so maybe we'll wrap it up here. That was a really long, in depth, interesting chat. I really appreciate all of you for coming on for that. I mean there was a lot said here. I think a lot of good stuff. Thank you, thank you.

This was fun man, Hell yeah it was.

Yeah.

I really like, yeah, maybe we'll do this again one day in the future.

There's a lot of good sense I would like to say too.

Typically, like to top does a show with like five people, I only do a show with you know, two or three, and then I could guest. And typically these things are very hard to navigate. You guys do a killer job at this if like allowing everybody to speak, because you get a bunch of people excited about a topic and everybody.

Just wants to shout over.

I'm guilty of that, like crazy, I always have to reel it in, and so I just want to say, this is an excellent com You guys are great and it's really played out nicely. I think it made for a good listening experience, which for a lot of shows isn't always the case when you have this many people.

But I think we nailed it.

Oh yeah, yeah, no, that is one thing I have to admit with the show. Whenever we have I mean, we've had more people on than this at a time, it actually goes really well. So yeah, I had a feeling it would work out well today. We'll have to do it again in the future. Like I said, real quick, guys, please plug your stuff. We'll start with you top Lobster.

Yeah, you can go to toplopster dot com. That's where I run my merchandising business and go there, buy a T shirt, or check us out at Nephlim Desk Squad. That's a Nephilim however you spell that desk squad at We're everywhere if you if you like insane racist comedy, you can go to Tower Gang as well and Dangerous Retards. That's going to be a fun show. We talked to our normy friend who has a very large political audience, and we tell him crazy shit and then we see what he says.

Yes, awesome, thank you very much. And Raven, you want to hear anything.

Yeah, you guys can find me on Twitter. I'm most active on there. That's at David L. Corbo Corbo and yeah, go and find Neflim Death Squad wherever you a Ken. This is the kind of conversations that we're having regularly on this show, and so if you're a fan of the Occult Rejects, you might find yourself being a fan of Neflim Death Squad.

Highly suggest said yeah, definitely go check out their channel. I really do think there are topics over there that you are very interesting. That's why I asked them all and everybody else. You got Jim the Ninja, we got Julia, and we got Robbie Marks. I got all of their links in the bottom now and if they're not I will make sure they are after the slide, where I'm pretty sure they're there already. Thank you all very much again for joining me. I thought that was again an