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Your host double j not the vice president host of Operation g c D with an Operation GCD invasion of the Occult Rejects. Here with a fellow occult reject Julia from the Cosmic Peach podcast, and of course Neck the host of The Occult Rejects.

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Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Guys.

Well this this conversation kind of grew over conversation we had last week right on the Ocult Rejects.

I don't think it's quite dropped yet.

No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think it will drop next Wednesday or something like that.

I was, you know, let's say, let's go, let's go ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be a good conversation for folks to check out as well. And if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday, Well, this this name came up in a conversation last week about a cult Elvis.

Tuesday.

Well when when Julia brought it up in the conversation and asked me if by new Tuesday, Well, I simply replied, one of my favorite people in the entire universe, because I love because I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's connected to everything I love.

How you say, not because I'm pro.

Tuesday, I'm not for Tuesday.

Yeah, no me either.

Me either.

But she's somebody that I've actually I've mentioned several times in previous episodes. I actually the first time I talked about her on my show was in twenty twenty two. So is definitely, you know, do for a refresher, just for even people who listen to my show, because you know, I just assume that every everyone knows about her, because I did do an episode on her a couple of years ago, but it's been so long, you know, you'd have to dig through, you know, hundreds of episodes to

This is gonna be it Monday.

Yeah, Right, And Nick, you had no idea Tuesday will was when this came up during that show, right, I mean, you know, I think Tuesday's done a great job of playing you know, laying beneath.

Flamelow, under the radar of the public.

Right.

It was the only time I had ever really heard about her?

Is that.

I think, like one time Lisa for some reason, and she can't remember why she was looking into somehow she was she was related to Joe Rogan, she had heard somewhere. I'm like, yeah, like weird, like you know, who knows if it's true, But like that was the only time I really ever heard of Tuesday. Well, that had no idea who she really is. Though.

If that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants.

Well, I can't, I can't believe I haven't done Joe Rogan's family tree.

Yet that's it's shocking to me. As much Joe Rogan stuff as I've done.

It wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody that I've worked with a few times, I think nick has two is uh Sean McCann. Yes, And he knew so much about Tuesday and he and I talked about her together, and so I just want to give him a quick shout out because he dropped some stuff into my life about her that I didn't even know about that I

But well, man interject real quick. Yeah, before we describe who is Tuesday Wild? How did you just like you're saying, Sean McCann has done podcasts on this too. Now, I haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday well since Adam Go rightly, sirka two thousand and seven something.

Yeah, So Sean McCann.

That's old conversation used to be with.

Her, right, I'm not sure when it dropped into his you know, periphery for him to start looking into it. But I found her looking into Laurel Canyon because she is a big sixties counterculture person. And then I had mentioned her in passing to Sean and he was like, oh shit, you know, I know so much about her, and then we did an episode on her together. But I'm not sure if you've ever seen a picture of her, nick, but she is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield,

Those things, right, She could have been bigger than all those stars, right.

Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that that archetype. Yeah. There she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around. It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is, but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture. When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big during that time, She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson.

But she's everywhere fan girl, right right, right?

Yeah?

So I first this.

Is when they did a movie together. I think this was nineteen seventy two, that did a film together. If I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't remember which one it was.

I remember which one it was. I think I have it in my notes for later.

But she's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right, she was about what's seven years old, I believe.

When she started the Yeah, yeah, she was really really young. And I guess in order to understand why she's significant in what role she plays in this weird society of famous people, you kind of almost have to go back in time and look at her family, Right, who are the Weld's, What where did she come from? Why is she special? You know? Xyz? And it turns out, actually at the Weld family is really really old family. They came over on the Mayflower type shit, you know, one

Sure, and they started that all on a mound there in Jamaica plane called Ni Hill.

Yeah, freaking mound builder weirdness.

Right, So she the line connections to the Society of Cincinnati.

Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was William Weld. And if you go all the way back in time, right the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London. Some of them are knights uh shit like that.

And then they started some old school Celtic stuff though, right, like the ancient king Satara, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

So I think they were I don't know if it was in the thirteen hundreds or when they came over on the Mayflower, but they were Protestant. But after they got over here they sort of kind of like integrated their power into religiosity and a lot of them converted to Catholicism and became like Jesuit priests. So there's so many layers to this. And actually John B. Weld and Alfred Weld, to be specific, they were Jesuit priests, and Alfred was known to be a Jesuit priest, an astronomer,

There an administrator there that wasn't even just a member. He's like, I'm not just a member, I'm the president.

Right.

Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the Society of Jesus. You got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family. I mean, the Welds are nuts you got governors. They own most of Massachusetts.

Yeah, from they were the infamous incident between Bill Weld and Whitey Bulger's brother, the governor pointed out, so that is a cousin of hers. He also descends from Eliza Weld. So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution. They're on the the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains. In fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill served as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contenent of the Revolution.

Right, they're like founding fathers and stuff.

Like they're damn near like yeah, close to the leveled down wow, Because as far as mass CH's is concerned, I mean they're they were a major again as you pointed out that they were the religious heads with the starting Harvard because that started as a religious school. And then they were the military heads because they weren't generals. But you know, they're the ones that ran their house was run you know, they run everything out of their house,

Well, of course it goes all the way back to ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all of that.

Well, I mean even within that family, probably even you know, maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient kings of Tar or they claimed to be descended from, they used to be crowned on a mound over there right the hill.

Yeah, And wasn't like Jeppel Island supposed to be. There was something built on a mound or Am I making it up?

Okay?

The Rockefellers another society family out of society, Cincinnati family out of New York, the New York chap Or. They owned, they owned the uh, the Indian Mound Cottage down there.

Where the secret meetings were held for the rituals.

That's what I thought, That's what I thought.

It was just one of the magic that we call the Federal Reserve. It's definitely it's always mound stuff with these people. And that's what I'm saying, Like I was gonna call it the hill Kamara, but I'm like, no, no, that I'm thinking in my head, that's that's Mormon stuff.

That's Mormon stuff.

The hill, the hill Tara is the is the ancient is a place over there in Ireland where they the old ancient kings of ancient Celtic kings used to you know, the heather coronations, rituals and ceremonies. So that's who the world's claimed to be descended from.

That's so nuts to me, because it's like they have little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld, he was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and also the Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and he was a personal friend of King George the Third.

Typical, they're a very Anglo focused family. They seem to be still to this day, and they're having this Anglo American influence, you know, this this British influence on America. And speaking of that, speaking of that, back to Bill Weld right right, took us off on the standard of there, Julia. So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out, Tuesday's cousin and Whitey Boulger's brother was the President of

There.

Figure, right, you have to somebody on both sides exactly.

And well, they're running the same operations, just from different roubles. So Bill Weld and Bill Boulger getting an infamous dispute.

Yeah. Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up major trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon Weld founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which did opium trade to China. That I mean, this is

Yeah, because everybody goes to like, what's that I said?

I think everybody fixates on like Rockefeller and like names like that, but the Weld family is should be mentioned when those things come up.

For sure, and my and my and my perspective, they're one of the same. They're both the society Cincinnati families. But you know, in regard to the Welds, they seem more overtly involved in witchcraft throughout their history.

Mm hmmm.

I'm not saying the other ones are, and I'm just saying they seem to brag about it.

And I'm not even talking about this time.

Tuesday Weld we're a witch's hat to an interview to the factory.

Yeah, a witch in the seventies.

You know where she did that interview. It was the Chateau Marmont in California, where like I'm pretty sure that's where John Belu she died and like Anton Levey used to hang out, and it's supposedly haunted by all the ghosts of all the dead celebrities that have passed through that she did the interview there, and I'm pretty sure she's She's made fun in the public eye of like I'm a witch and I have a high pedigree from this this elite family. What you gonna do about it,

She's got a lot of connections to the Hotel Marmont there, so well, Jack's Jack's one of his best friends in life. Mister Bob Cocaine Evans his producer buddy for the film Godfather. Al Ruddy is Al Ruddy's wife owned that's Chateau Marmont Hotel mm HM back in the sixties and early seventies.

It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's she's like the Babylon Girl, but she's not, because she's everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her, but she is She's.

Not a household name like Maryland, right, She's not a house or even Jane Mansfield exactly.

Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that we know about like her family and shit. She was born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three. And it's based on the research I've done, Like in these elite cults, people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age to carry out whatever it is that they have for them and I do think that she was chosen relatively. I think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when they started noticing because they said that she had abundant

And I think that was her role though, is what all you're describing. This is all very well organized because this is one of her first major acting She was in other things starting very young. I think her first acting role was Ege seven. I think she was sixteen here in this TV show called The You familiar with this one? Julia The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.

I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it.

Obviously, but h strangely enough, I watched as long before I really understor knew who Tuesday World.

Was really was.

It was a popular show in my household growing up.

Well I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started, they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like really hit the big time and like get like a right all right, not Tuesday So.

No, no, And this show shows it right here.

So the synopsis of the show is the end of the innocence of the nineteen fifties before the oncoming nineteen sixties revolution.

Well, she played a huge part of in real life role.

Yeah, yes, that's that's what this show that was, the show like that that was kind of the start of her revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of this puppet master to six. It starts in nineteen fifty nine when she's sixteen, what's sixteen years old? And this TV show that the TV shows about the end of the fifties and the you know, this new era of get out with the beat next and in with these you know, the kind of this new hippie kind of scene.

Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind the lot of music and culture too, but like I have. So let's say she she's developing these psychic abilities around like age seven, and then she began a modeling career at age twelve, and she landed her film debut at age twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie.

There you go.

So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh, I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model, and she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows about her. It's like she didn't even have to try. They just like threw her in and was like, hey, Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. You know he was huge back then. And this is actually do you think.

It's just because of her family? Right? Her family's running Hollywood.

Oh one. And a lesser known thing about her as well is she was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita, right wow, Right, you know, the infamous pedophile movie.

So when I say her family, I mean like the cold family, right, like the family of which the Welds are obviously a big part of and included in, but they're.

Not the only family in there, right.

I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know, I brought it up before. I was like, oh, did Elvis know Tuesday Weld or do you know that Elvis knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh no, I don't even know who that is. Well, he sure got a tender love and care for her, right there. I have picture where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday. Who is that?

That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of the family.

Oh one hundred. He's got a nice little hug for her too.

Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine.

I'm McQueen, he really yeah, yeah, My second great grandmother is a McQueen, so I think he's somewhere in my fifth cousin. Anyway, this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because when this photo was taken, and so, yeah, he steals Bob Evans old cocaine Bob Evans wife the next year Steven Queen does when I say steal, I think all these people are involved in the sex colt right, So like, oh, yeah, you know he runs he runs off with cocaine. Bob's wife.

Well and during the time. Oh, I don't know how old she was.

No, No, the the A Team, he was the he was the star of the television show Now Team No.

I thought you said she.

I don't know, Yeah, Colonival Hannibal Smith. I'm too big of an eighteen fan, I guess. But but anyone in the eighties, you know, remembers this dude from from that, They don't remember from Breakfast, the Tiffany's, you know what I mean.

No, well, it seems like to me everybody had a bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic relationship with Tuesday. So that was all kind of like hush hudh and like swept under the rug because those two were in a movie together, which I will get to in a minute. But JJ, have you heard of a movie she was in called Lord Love a Duck.

I was gonna bring that movie up to sure, Yeah, that's exactly like that. Dobie Gillis shows it's spawning this revolution that she's in charge of.

And and we'll kind of bragging about it more or less.

But right, so, like it's basically like this demon that grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and she wants whatever. But anyways, but.

She's like a Colt hypriesest in that, right Barbara Ann, Right?

Yeah, she she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie.

Right. Yeah.

But they see allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys song Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that came out at the same time as this movie.

That's what I was gonna say.

So she's talking about the process.

The Beach Boys were were infatuated with her, and that's where Barbara Ann came from, was this Lord Love a Duck because they were they were infatuated with Tuesday. And it's to me, it's signaling again like she's the Barbie, right. And I kind of talked to Nick before about like where the Barbie origins came from. And they're pretty.

Sister, you know.

You're saying, like the Barbie doll is like some sort of like idol of some regard.

Is right. The very first, the very first Barbie doll that ever came out was was a sex toyikes, Yes.

It was definitely. It was definitely sold sexually.

Yes, And it had nipples and it had a vagina, and all they did literally to marketed to children was removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the same dress, it was the same face, it was the same hair, it was everything was the same. And when the guy took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts. He took it to like a kid's convention thing to sell it, and parents were like, what are you doing with it? Like they were creeped out by it. But now it's

Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like how you're describing this because that's how I look at the new evolution of this stuff. The American something American dolls or American girls or something.

Oh yeah, American girl dolls.

It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor describing.

Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's like Barbara Ann in this movie. Yeah, and the Beach Boys write this song. She's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's blue eyes, she's got like the perfect body, literally everything she is the epitome.

Of just supposedly stings on that too.

Shows she's allegedly she's a backup singer in the song Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys. Again, as you pointed out, their obsession with her makes sense. Their their music producers, mister Phil Spector, the process guy, you know, the wall sound guy, you know, the wrecking crew guy. Oh there, and then you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that. You know, they got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson, you know, is the financier of Charles Manson and family.

And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to be Dennis Wilson.

My apologies, Oh, I was.

Gonna say, he's the one that had a big heart on for Manson, had him living in his house ship.

Right, and they're all friends with I always missed this dude's name up. He's a music producer. He wrote the song Cocomo with the Wilson Boys, you know, for the Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties, Cocktails, the song written for that.

He's he was. He was Charlie's a cell mate at Terminal Island.

Phil, I don't know, that's a very.

Music producer friend of the Beach Boys.

Obviously did did produce some Beach Boys stuff along with writing with the Beach Boys and Cocomo.

Yeah.

Might I might have got Terry Melcher mashed up with Phil Coffin, but they're both in the same mix with the Beach Boys, right, these people around Manson the guy.

Yeah, I was gonna say. Phil Kaufman is definitely mentioned in uh Dave McGowan's work.

Yeah, that's why I first learned about him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least, And he.

Was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, he served. He was there in Terminal Island there with Chuck.

That's so wild, dude, you know something else about her. I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen in Lord Love a Ducky, and.

She sounds about right so old when she was born in what forty three? Uh huh, yeah, I think she was probably like twenty then maybe, oh she was twenty three, twenty.

Probably twenty two.

So this must be a quote from a different movie, because I say, I have in my notes one of the male actors she worked with on one of these movies. I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. Spec he said that. So it was like, I don't know that they all had like an infatuation with her even when she was young young, like she started when she was twelve,

Do you have a source? Flom?

I just said, danny k always it, did you find it?

That's when I searched the quote. That's what it came up with. Danny k but I don't know this actor though. Do you know him?

No? The article that I pulled it from, said a co a co male actor she worked with, referred to her as quote, Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven.

It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work. But he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's buried in Westchester, kuny of New York there, Nick Hell.

Definitely look Westchester specifically, right.

So is he like a big wig guy or I don't know?

Says he says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer.

She also knew Bing Crosby too.

Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together.

Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas?

Is she in that?

No?

I'm just saying I know that's a Bing Crosby Danny K and I recognized.

That's the only thing I recognized Danny K from.

Okay, yeah, it was with Bing Crosbie. I mean she knows everybody, dude, literally.

She does, doesn't she because this is a way older actor than she is.

Yeah, and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven.

Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen.

They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen fifty nine, so she was five right around the same time she did that DeBie Guilli stuff she was.

Later on after this stuff, she was in something called seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. I think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset Strip and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness, But you know seventy seven, you're right, seventy seven like the OZ the Magician's number whatever, and maybe seventy seven.

Yeah, well sevens and stuff. Yeah, I do you find that interesting?

I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what the meetings are. It seems creepy that they would name it that, right whatever. The seven seven's got to mean something, right.

And it's sunset strip, right, like where all the Laurel Canyons shit's going down and it's.

Not yet there, right, not yet, because this is from fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four, right.

Was it? I thought it was a little bit earlier than that I could know.

I believe I believe the Birds first album was maybe late sixty three with all that Dylan music. This is Vito Policas is the is the Proto Manson guy in Laurel Kenyon. I know, I think that's around sixty three or sixty four.

Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip? Was that Veto's time?

He would have been hanging out in that at the time yet because.

He was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So this is a series and her episode was called Secret Island or something like that.

Okay, but.

She so after being really creepy show, Julia, I've never even paid attention to this.

I have an ex active and former.

WW two WW two World War two Office of Strategic Service is a secret agent, right, That's that's the main character is an OSS guy.

This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark that's called Sex Kittens Go to College.

I'm familiar with.

She went from seventy seven Sunset Strip to Sex Kittens Go to College.

It's like they pointed out there for you, you know, quite a career trajectory, right.

Sex Kittens go to College?

Like what, oh, I think we skipped over this when chronologically she was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a convicted child child sex offender Chuck Berry.

Damn oh yes, Chuck Berry.

Yeah, I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was.

He was getting popped right around this time though, for the violations of the Main Act.

Well, was it before or after this Wild in the Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed their little romance.

Yeah, I don't know.

Because I'm trying to remember when Chuckburry because the music the music record studio company folks literally brokeer Chuck Berry's release from prison, like they want the Feds want to keep them in there for like a long time. They're like, look, this's gonna make us a lot of money.

You know.

We got to get him out of there, you know. So he didn't give what he did about soon and a half. I think he was out by nineteen sixty, but it was right around this time he was with Tuesday. Well that is when he got popped. When he was

And that's what Chuck Barry was doing.

That's what doing that.

He was doing a lot of it.

He later would write a number one single called My Dingling and Tour American having people sing along with a convicted child sex offender. You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah, that's Tuesday's frinds, that's Tuesday's friends.

Well, I was gonna say too. In that Elvis movie she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know if it was before or after this, she played an incest victim. Oh man with Elvis. Yeah, with Elvis.

Yeah, that was sixty one. I thought, I think that was sixty one. So yeah. The Sex Kittens Go to College was nineteen sixty with Dick Clark. Yeah, Like what goes on? Right?

Like you got Brookshields as an eleven year old what in like nineteen seventy eight, you know, naked in a film as a child prostitute. You got other you know, obviously tuesdays of age here, right, Well, she's barely of age. She's probably seventeen actually, in sixteen when she filmed this, right.

When I was young.

Yeahsty three, Yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a child in a film called Sex Kittens.

Got to call.

Collage and it's like, look at the cover. It's it's your archetypes, right. You got Tuesdays, the blonde with blue eyes, and you got a redhead with a green shirt on, and then you have the brunette with like this red polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan sex kitten for you, I know.

So that's what your Marilyn Monroe on top?

Oh, isn't that Tuesday on top?

I thought this was Tuesday?

Which one?

The redheaded middle one? The middle one?

Yeah, oh, I can barely see it because it's so small, but I just.

Assumed it's it's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are they trying to aim for Marilyn Monroe. Bit it's Mami von.

Dorian Ooh, another blonde hair, blue eyed.

Yeah.

Oh, she's one of the three m's, Okay, along with Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know this lady.

I don't know her either.

Mammy Mami, Yeah, Mamie van Dorton.

I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right in the same category with all the other.

Archetypes, right, I mean you got Mansfield and and uh Marilyn Monroe, who, like Tuesday Welder dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right.

Yes, but you know, Tuesday and Maryland were up for the same parts very often, and they would go with Marylyn as opposed to Tuesday. And it's like, why is that because Marylyn is lacking the pedigree that Tuesday has And why did Tuesday never blow up and become like a megastar the way that these women did? And this

And is that I mean, I agree with you there, Julia on how they how they burn them Ounta and is it's a very intentional thing.

I think as well.

But she but to be honest with me, here's her life that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore, She had a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little hobbin looking fellow. You know what I'm talking about, Martha.

Yeah, well, when I watch.

Charm can your life be?

I don't know, but I watched He's gotta be a wizard, right, I've always written it off like that, dude's gotta be a wizard, right, I.

Mean, what's that?

I guess, right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like, how what's going on there?

I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've watched them, and she kind of like it was like, all right, I'm just going to be a stay at home mom and just drink wine all day and you know, sit around and basically she's just living the life of luxury. I don't know for her husband's a weirdo or not, but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane Mansfield and Maryland. And I'll tell you that much.

But I guess that's that's a good comparison.

Although though I think Homegirl won the won the competition there miss uh what was her name, Donna von Dene or whatever? What was this lady's name again? Maybe maybe yeah, Maymie von Dene or something.

Yeah, something like that. I feel like, oh, well, maybe she's maybe she's another Tuesday.

Yeah.

But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna and Britney Spears and Kesha, and it's like Lady Gaga, you can create as many as you want of this archetype of the blonde, blue eyed, you know, priestess of like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is

Right, they don't have the genetics right.

And it's like the club that they're trying to be a part of is Tuesdays Club.

Like it's like when you joined the mafia or whatever.

You're going to get in so hard unless you're part of the actual family, right, So, like you know, so I feel I kind of view these side characters right, like they're not quite part of the family, but yeah they're they're like they're a lower echelon of the system.

Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly. That's why she doesn't get burnt out and suicided or drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second, but it's like.

She's this demand little man though, right, we still see it inconclusive.

Let me see him. I just want to see.

Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture on this little villa.

Oh god, he's hideous, right.

No, if you're watch him in like author, he'd be like, which I'm sure is really his personality, but you would be like, what the fuck?

He must he must be a bloodliner, right, got a lot of money. He has to be. He has to be, because it's like, you don't get that high a pedigree of Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner.

Because they want thought, always thought that, right, it's something weird, right.

Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro Creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend who's side.

She was married to George for part. Have you seen the A team Carnibal Hannibal Smith. I mean, she went from Hannibal Smith to this guy.

That's why, That's why it's got to be on purpose, because whatever genetics they have together is going to make the next you know, Tuesday.

That makes as much sense as Jackson winning.

But you know, think of the obsession that she had around her for her to end up with this guy, right because the Beatles sang about her, The Stones sang about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvis had a big crush on her, and she is said to be part of the influence behind the changes of the Beatles being like Bubblegummy to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. They say like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition.

Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love of Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell, the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy right on the beach, and Tuesday, Well, it's kind of like, you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has heard cheering on this moving a revolution of the sixties where they're inserting this this hippie dumb and you know,

Yeah. And the song that the Stones wrote about her, Ruby Tuesday, that everybody knows and they probably thought that it was the day of the week or something, right, Ruby Tuesday. But it actually inspired me to look into a little bit further why they would have used that terminology. Have you ever read Fritz Springmeyer, You guys either one heard.

Of thirteen blood lines of the Illuminati.

Yeah, something like that, I think. He he also has another one that where he so in Fritz Springtire's work, he he talks about there's levels and there's like a rank system in the dark Ocult. I don't know if it's specifically for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right, And there's like this rank system, and they're all different types of gemstones. And so the diamond is like the presidential model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff.

So you're saying, like a ranking of her ranking within the system, yeah, because she's.

The ruby is like one of the most precious of the gemstones, and the ruby is red for the blood. It's like the royal blood, the High Priestess Ruby Tuesday. Because you would think it would be a diamond, right, but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds are literally worthless in the end. Rubies are way more precious and you know, it's like if you look, you'll see these weird gemstones

It sounds I like the rest of the processor, doesn't It Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows from the Mamas and the Papas, these people skirting off on getting drug trafficking charges right, It's.

Like there is if you go back in the Crosby, Oh, ruby slippers. I love that they mentioned that because it's the movie The Wizard of Oz. I've covered it before. It's very occulted and it's got so many mentions to magic in there. You've got the ruby slippers for Dorothy.

Oh. One thing I do Crosby and real quick too about the ruby. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I could see it being almost a symbol of alchemy. Most of the time. People probably don't know this, and I I heard this from somebody else, so it wasn't like, you know, I figured this out on my own. Most rubies, you would find that it would look like a stone until you apply heat to it, and then it turns into what you

Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic abilities when she was really young, and clairvoyant abilities that they almost had to like not blood her in, but they had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a little bit to turn her into what she became, and

Oh, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's a he's a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right.

Yeah, Well, you know that song that The'll sang that song and it's like Tuesdays on the phone to me they say in this song. Yes, they say Tuesdays on the phone to me. If you go back and you find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling them from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when you look at these guys, it's like, of course they hang out.

Oh for sure.

There's lots of other songs too, right, I mean just besides the Beatles in the in the you know, in the But what do you think, so, what do you think this wasn't her as far as you know, protecting you or staying out of the limelight, Like do you think that was her decision? Like she she's quoted in seventy one and The New York Times saying like, for example, she didn't take the role for Rosemary's Baby, right, she declined the role. So do you think that's her decline

I don't, Well, I don't think she's making any of her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff. But right, right, this is what I'll say, because the dedication in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would know who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right,

As that's from popular witchcraft, straight from the witch's mouth in an interview with High Priest Dance on Lavay. You found it nineteen seventy two, and this is a says two thousand and five.

That's a reprint.

There you go, right there. He literally says, you know, Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do with how famous she is.

Yeah, And in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well, Tuesday's.

Part of the rituals, right, Yeah, like Tuesdays like the upper echelon, where like all these other bitches are like fodder for the candy, right Like it's just you know, throw another Jane Mansfield out there, let's get Marilyn Monroe fucked up.

And you know it's just I don't know she this this whole thing about her being involved in rituals and like obviously the Anton LaVey stuff, and she never did make it big, but yet she knows everyone and is traveling with the circles.

In Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Kahn, you know, al Pacino, a crowd of Cocaine Bob's friends, like Cocaine Bob's friends, Robert de Niro, you know these are all her co stars and films.

Right, Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up so like some of these Hollywood events with like two giant white wolves with her and.

Stuff like that.

Yeah, it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these two big, giant white wolves at both of her sides, and it's like, Okay, here comes the Priestess, here comes the Biggie, the big Witch, and everybody like Revere's her Oh Tuesday with the white wolves and shit, you know she's she's a force to be reckoned with.

That's pretty wild.

Yeah, I know. But the thing is, it's like I said before, she knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for a little bit, but not to the point where she got burnt out and thrown away like some of the bigger ones. She's definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's

Am exactly exactly. Yeah, she's She's easily the most influential person in the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole, the whole social aspect of it.

And according to some folks. I so when I asked earlier, how you.

Summoned across well one, whenever I do find people that have interested themselves in the life of Tuesday Weld and I'm just trying to understand it. I asked that question because I came across it in two ways really, So my my initial interest was I'd read the works of Adam go Rightley and his series that he printed years ago, and did a couple of podcast interviews with the guy I want to sit around two thousand and nine. I think he wrote the series in two thousand and seven,

Ooh no, what's this Jeff Turner. I believe he's still alive.

He's an extremely ausistic, severe autistic man who works in a soup kitchen I believe in San Jose, California. He claims have known Tuesday Weld for a very long time, since he was a youngster. He claims Tuesday Weld got him involved with spying on one of her underlings that had decided to leave her guys and go take over what this man described as the Processed Church of the Final Judgment. That lady's name was Christy McManus. This is

Guys, that's that's like oddly specific for it now to stay weld like literally, why would ever?

No one knows exactly, no one knows he is, right, So this dude has this whole story go rightly. I believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding. He no longer has any buying into it. But you know what a Discordian thing to do, if you ask me, mm hmm, she like the chief Discordian.

Well, and the fact that she's still alive and could dispute that if she found out about it.

But yeah, I think she's ever commented, right, I don't think she ever coming Well, maybe this dude was allegedly spying on this network of this Tuesday Wells underlings in the eighties out of San Jose and then would later describe these activities to Adam go rightly relative to this Charles Manson cult. So according to this dude, Tuesday Weld was calling all the shots in the Manson murder like she.

Was at that level of the situation.

Yeah, that's that's his student's statements, Jeff Turner statements. Now again, I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him. I don't think he's nearly his Looney tunes. I highly doubt he's nearly these looney tunes. These two filmmakers made him out to be. But I think it was intentional. So after he told these stories to go rightly and go rightly published him. Two film students tonight, two film

And he was arrested.

Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere in the eighties with a samurai sword. He was trying to give the Tiffany. So you know, there is there's obviously a bit of.

A narrative there.

Why Tiffany.

He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a different faction opposite Tuesday.

Oh my god, stop it, stopitch her Tiffany's assistant.

And again, I'm not trying to discredit the guy's story because again, some of the stuff conta chexts out over the years. Right, this is something he said back in like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's assistant in that opposing faction of Tuesday World was Alyssa Milano. Think about how many occult films Alyssa Milana has done. Think about how much weird political stuff she's inserted herself into in recent years.

Oh my god. And all these people are still alive and could very easily like dispute these things, and they're not saying a peep.

Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney. To him, I putting him into a film about stalkers of Tiffany. Right, Well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany. He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He was part he was trying to he had some whole thing where he's obsessed with this whole He's familiar with this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So, but they really framed it in a, I think a very weird light with these filmmakers and this documentary. So

Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll just sut it out there since Tiffany came up.

But.

I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right.

Well, so my brother is a musician and he has the same manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails, and he has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and some of these bigger people and huh, yeah, he hung out with Tiffany. But no, so he's he's like asked Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him Brian and shit and like apparently I don't know his

Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming the tales of Jeff Turner.

That's why I brought it up is because I have never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those two were connected.

Was cool with him too, Thompson, No, with uh, Marylyn, Yeah, I did not.

Know that those pictures.

Well, Hunter Thompson makes sense to me.

He strikes me as an og processed guy, like his connections with depth. Their friendship over the years and we're Manson for that matter, makes sense because Hunter S. Thompson was doing security at the Eslam Institute when they were constructing the place. Yeah, he was living, he was living on the grounds, he chasing people off with his forty five.

Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that.

Not shocked, not shocked.

Yeah, well, you know the reason I bring it up to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson yeah together, right, and those are two people we just got done talking about. And so he's traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right, and somehow Tuesday Weld is in there too, Like, dude, that blows my mind that she even came up. And I literally have never told that story to anyway before.

That's awesome.

Tiffany electronic music stuff.

She was that mall pop singer.

I'm just wondering if the style of music was even processed church people, because remember they were big into the ship. Doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you know what I'm saying.

If you're digital music, that eighties kind of electrical rock, right or whatever, Like you never didn't have a band or whatever.

She just sang with some music, right.

Yeah, I mean you know, I'm sure you know a Tiffany song, Nick, Yeah.

I know, I know for sure. I just can't think of it.

I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I think we're alone now yeah.

Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic or was it like actual instrument It was like, I can't remember.

Everything else that came out sound yeah, I mean, how do you even describe as like electronic kind of weirdas sounding? Yeah, but yeah, no, I'm I mean, damn Tiffany that bit. Oh my goodness, I can't believe.

I can't believe.

I can't believe you had a story about Tiffany relative the process. That's fantastic.

Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool. But I don't know how to put the pieces together. I mean, I'm sure Manson said stuff about Depp, and he said stuff about Hunter s Thompson and stuff, but then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well, what did she have one fucking song in the eighties that everybody knows? Like, who is this who is this girl? Anyways?

So according to Jeff Turner, she's born she's also of some some like lees I believe Lebanese heritage, where she's like some sort of Soufi hyph priestess much like Tuesday Well was born into Celtic hypriestess.

The way he explains it is like she was born to a Sufi hype role.

And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner?

Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks of the interwebs to Jeff Turner.

Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson.

Now, let me, let me let me find uh, let me find the actual trailer tailor. I mean you look up, you can look up his videos. There's a whacky dude. I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody.

Asked about Blondie.

Wasn't that Blondie Debbie Gibson?

Mm hmm, wasn't that her name? Oh no, I'm gonna google it.

Ibbi Gibson was a difference here, right?

Oh was it? What's what was Blondie's name?

Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary?

Oh?

Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind fuck me, oh no, Debbie Debbie Harry was born Angela Tremble and then became Blondie. So her name is Debbie Harry.

Look, if you want to pop that on screen, all interditional, Jeff Turner, like, this guy looks great.

Known each other most of her life, and known each other most different her life, and we are in love with each other. And she's a great singer.

The difference between me and so that's the other stalker they put in the film this I don't transfeste. Yeah, I think it was actually her maprodit I think it actually did have think if I recall correctly from watching this documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple sex organs of some sort because at some point in time the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it.

For that or whatever, it becomes a thing.

So can I just say before you hit play again that this person on screen, if you can't see, looks like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. It's like the same.

You're on point with that.

They claim they were making the documentary about Turner, and they made it more about this character.

That's why I didn't know.

I mean they they've already done a great job making him look crazy.

Right, they give them you know, they don't really even introduce him. He's just like, Oh, I love Tiffany, and then they show you this character.

And they don't truly love love the individual.

As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner my whole name in there.

I think you might need a sink some of counseling.

I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about the court.

They god, but I mean, don't autistic people. It's like they just say whatever they know, like they have no reason to like make stuff up.

That's what I'm saying. This dude's clearly got alts. You have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm willing to throw the baby out with the batsup because the stuff he says about Tuesday weld and even some of the stuff he says about Tiffany checks out she is from this weird family.

Right, Well, so this is this is kind of on point and kind of off point. But have you guys watched like Love Spectrum on Netflix? You have.

Twice yes, Okay, So I.

Really was unfamiliar with how autistic people could be until I watched that show. And they don't. They don't. They're not big into lying. They will literally tell you all about your fucking self, and like they'll be like, I don't even I want to go, right, I go on a date with you.

Right, They'll just say some off the wall shit that is absolutely accurate and honest, but it's not exactly socially appropriate.

So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way, I'm starting to figure out, a lot of people with autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions about, like dinosaurs and like star Wars or whatever.

In his weird obsession was Tuesday Wild, so he would go to the Many, He would go to the set of The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he was stalking, you know, Tiffany as an adult.

As a young child, his parents were taking him to go see Tuesday Wild.

See, That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange interests and they like involved themselves with it, but not to the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, They just became right right, I think, I think, you know, they get so obsessed with it they want to know everything. So if there was somebody to ask about this who would know literally all the details, it would be a guy like that.

Right, And it's just so weird to me.

After he drops all these Tuesday Weld details and gets published in Steam Shovel Press and Paranoid Magazine and some other PubL locations from Adam go Rightley, the author who interviewed him, that that film gets made immediately thereafter because.

They got to make him look like a kook, absolutely and put a transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what what was Annie Lennox was talking about his character.

The other character in there, Yeah.

The one that looks like Marilyn Manson, and.

Yeah, the Personal Trainer freak show. You know, it's I honestly think, if I recall correctly, I looked up and I don't think that person's any longer any longer with us, but it's it had a lot of problems.

They had a lot of problems.

I could tell.

I still think a lot of I still think a lot of stuff that is filmed as in a reality type situation is not at all. I think it's all still scripted. And it's like, like me and JJ have even said this, like these might be people and maybe even a perfect example of Tuesday will this somehow related to somebody who are important somehow, either because of a club or a family, and they're like, yeah, this is me, you could do this. We got this going mm hmm.

Well, you know, oh go ahead, JJ, No, I was just saying again, I think to this guy's situations, it's to some degree he's part of these same families as well. Right, So apparently Tephanie's Jeffrey Turner, so he is all tests he has, you know, I think he's just born into a system where he they couldn't use the guy for anything else, and he just he just seemed to take take notice of everything going on around him.

That's kind of the way. That's kind of way I took his situation.

Well, yeah, because I mean, if you look at some of even the people who came out in the sixties, some of them weren't even like very talented, but they became huge megastars.

And most were not talented, you know what I'm.

Saying then, right, Like sure, and there were some that could sing and play instruments, but like for the majority, was like, is this even good? But they made it good. They made it so popular that you think that it's good.

You know who made it good?

People like Phil Processed, Phil Spector and process, Bob Cocaine Evans. You know, these are the people running the music in the movies in Hollywood at the time. Right the Laurel Canyon scene, that's all Phil Spector, you.

Know, right.

I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or I mean, there was some really cool songs that came out during that decade. That's why I love it so much. But I don't know, it was just like, you know, they're all their families are military or like real high up, and it's like, Okay, you're gonna sing, now, you're gonna do this, now, you're gonna.

Be exactly now exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather were fighter pilots, and apparently Tiffany has some relations to that same group of fighter pilots.

My god, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's like they don't even have to really be that talented as long as their family with someone.

Well, let's be honest, with Tiffany talented.

She may be more known for her Playboy apparents showing her tits in the nineties than her mall hit in the eighties.

No Shit, No Ship right right after.

That movie was made with that I Think We're Alone Now documentary this guy here in the in the Silicon Valley area, some sort of tech blog Metro Silicon Valley interviews Jeffrey Deane Turner there, you know, in the aftermath of that film, and is obviously roasting him, but he goes over a lot of the details that Turner tells him and the and their and their lunch they had together, including which that that Turner claims that he met Charles

I wanted to shout out out somebody I saw in the comments, Tara, what's up girl? Thank you so much. I appreciate you. But you know, the Son of Sam thing, if you really look into it, you and I did program to kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there, and you know, it's it's like he can't even he can't even be placed at the scene for some of the murders that he went down for, and yet he gets blamed for everything. And he tried to say, like,

Okay, yeah, I got it.

I have another show coming up on Wednesday night talking precisely this on the same in the process with author Jonathan Mitchell, so you know.

What I'm talking about. Then that he said like, hey, this is a way bigger thing.

Oh for not just me.

I didn't do all this. I'm so I mean.

You signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen ninety six and witness not only by Mary Terry, the author of Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names Escaping Me. He's also signed there. He names people like Roy Cone, donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the knew it.

I knew it, dude.

Something off with.

Roy Cone.

Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe JJ both have brought his name up multiple times.

Oh, I talked about that is a piece of shit. And it's like it's, like I said before, I think maybe it was in the Program to Kill episode. But it's like, all right, we're gonna take all of these people that Donald Trump knows that are like his mentors and stuff, people like Roy Khne and and they're known to be pieces of shit, and we're just gonna disregard that they have any connection to each other. Why is that? Like, I don't understand it.

I don't know. I guess that's sometimes I wonder if that's like part of the magic in itself. I think, well, it's it's almost as if like I think, you know, I've heard somebody say that they they think they saw this happen with I can't remember, some some kind of newscaster, but like people like start to almost kind of build like some false relationship with this person and almost start

Well, they think he's like a messiah or something.

So it's so hard to After that guy came out on what was it, day day two and started talking about the vaccines, I don't know how most Trump supporters weren't like, what the fuck.

Dude, But they're in love with one hundred. They're in love with them, and it's like it's like he's best he's with or it was at least besties with Epstein. Right, we're gonna forget that one too, I guess, even though there's pictures of him together. You know, we're gonna forget about Roy JJ. Youre muted.

Apstely never heard of him?

Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, never heard, never heard of him. I guess that's like I said, that's another one that they want you to forget about. But this Roy Cohne guy, Oh my god, JJ, you got to tell Nick more about him sometime he's he's literally like, wasn't he the one with the violet scandal or whatever?

Yeah, we did it, we did.

Uh, we're gonna We're gonna do some more on and I think, but we did it on the last one of the Mormons and uh with the HETI love. We did a whole series of Mormons and parapolitics. And Roy Cone comes into play because he's on the board of Perman Decks and that you FK situation along along with the Clay Shaw, the man that Jim Garrison charged, and the and Joseph Banano, the head of the Five Families. He was the head of Banana family, but he was the head of the board of the Five Families at

Yeah, and he was wasn't he doing something around the time like the Franklin scandal was going on where they were bringing little boys to the White House and stuff. That was Roy Cohne's time.

I think he was he was dead at that time. I think he's like he.

I think he died just prior to the Franklin I mean he may have been evolved in the Franklin scandal by all means, I'm I wouldn't doubt it. The man was well connected in politics and Devlin. So, but I think he died of age in eighty six.

Well he I remember Paul Banasi saying something about him.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, he may he made I don't know enough of the details about the Franklin stuff. He may very well come up with that. He because obviously the Franklin scandal may got outed in the eighties, but it was obviously going on a lot longer.

Than that, right yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all the way into the nineties with that civil trial.

Right.

So but anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Cone knows the son of Sam Oh.

Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to his parties. They all hung out to the Studio fifty four together. So another member of the colt was allegedly an aid to the mayor Abe Beam.

That man was.

Also that was he left that job and became roy Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their clients were the Studio fifty four owners, That's what.

And then he went on to be Trump's mentor.

Oh, he's already mentor at this point. He meets Trump in nineteen seventy three, Roger Stone introduces the two Roger Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got to meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just hired him in seventy minutes, crazy seventy eight. I think it's seventy eight. You can find a picture of it.

It's called.

Called Roy Cones fifty second birthday party at Studio fifty four. It was a vandy Fair article and stuff. Roy Cones got like on a little leash, like a little cross dressing. Donald Trump right next to him there at his party. He's think, Donald's twenty eight.

You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it.

He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party at the club where his other clients he's representing in some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know, that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fiftyour was essentially the Processed Church hangout.

So he's hanging out, So roy is hanging out with the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on a leash all during the same time.

Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.

I like to look at it like this that somewhere around Sirraa nineteen seventies seventy seven, you may have, in fact, had Donald Trump, Roy Cone, David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson moonwalking around the dance floor of Studio fifty four together.

I can't shut the fuck absolutely up.

Oh my god, they were all there.

This is why, this is why I can't get on board with any politics whatsoever. It's like you literally, you literally cannot choose a team when it comes to this stuff because they're all just cross dressing processed Church members exactly.

Oh, this is this is the article about. But the birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two. At fifty four, I'll to find the picture. But in this article you'll see another person who I like to who's got connections to the next Sium colt or as I like to call them, the Albany Chapter of the Processed Church, and that is here at Roy k They go over all the people to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party, and I'll go over.

Donald Trump has listened here too.

But you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors, you got you know, you got judges, you know what I mean, District court judges.

You know what I mean.

And then you scroll down here and see, uh, Chuck Schumer Junior. Wow, newcomer, Chuck Schumer, a reform assemblyman from Brooklyn. He's not even he's not even US Congress yet, this is he's assembly man from Brooklyn. Why he was just the date of a gossip columnist. He Suckroy off.

He sucked him off and became.

I would argue, is the reason why he's connected to the next to him stuff now is because he was connected to the process stuff back then and he.

Was sucking dudes off. I'm telling you, I.

Think that you have accept that going in the door, I think right, right?

Have you guys ever watched Adventures in Babysitting and it's like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well, without sucking the dick.

So that's right.

Hey, wasn't that Chuck Berry in that that said that nobody gets out of here without singing the blues? That was Chuck Berry?

Was that really Chuck Berry? Holy shiite? Movieon?

So long?

Erry ye, so long?

Is that around the same time he was filming, he was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth?

Oh come on.

Yeah.

When they raided they raided his house in the late nineties, early I think it was late nineties. He had installed cameras and all these kfcas and taco bells across the Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, and he got in The FEDS rated the restaurants in his house about that. When they raided his house, the FED seized a box of videos of him recording himself hiring hookers just to fart in their mouths, and he uh, the Feds released this.

The reason why this came out, somebody leads into the tabloys, you know.

What I mean, So like, oh my god, nobody gets out of this taco bell without farting in my mouth.

Yeah.

Yeah, But he'd already been a convicted you know, child saxophone in remain act decades prior when he got busted for filming women in bathroom toilets. That of restaurants he owned. O, my god, Taco Bell Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell all places.

JJ. This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it up on the screens.

Yeah, you got it.

I was looking for this is it?

That's it? Eight year old Donald Trump.

Oh my god, it's just like and uh you know they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too.

Yep.

So, according according to this article about that party right there, Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be his attorneys.

Well that again, that's you probably do that in the in the coat room before you can get into the actual place. The crowd from my recent voice series was their thirty two year old developer of the Commodore Hotel and the Convention Center, Donald Trump. So he had just right prior to this photograph, he had just hired Roy Cone as his attorney. But he'd known Roy for about six years, about five years.

That's how that's why he knew to show up to the party in full drag.

Some folks, if you have some folks, there's some folks in the Son of Sam community.

I'm not one of them, but there's there are some folks in the Son of Sam community that think one of the sketches of these shooters looks a lot.

Like Donald Trump. Oh, it would have been about twenty six at the time.

Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like, oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like, I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home to suck Dixon the White House, you know, right, look at this stuff.

At it.

He probably flirted in his mouth right after.

This picture mistaken, So he would have been twenty five at the time of this sketch.

Right here, I believe.

Trump was yelling, drill, baby, drill.

Here, here's the here's the son of Sam sketch. Shooter sketch looks.

A lot like Donald Trump, with or without drag. This would have been a couple of years pre drag. This has been seventy six. That was seventy nine.

Oh my god, look at that. It looks like freaking what's his son's name, Baron, Baron. Look at that picture. That's the young you know young right there.

I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did know Roy Cohen, who Berkowitz claimed was a member of the process. But now I have never seen anything that claim burkowitzknew Donald Trump or claimed he was one of the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as somebody else. But there is you know, there is this sketch that people like this. You know, hey, why does this look like him?

Why?

Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is got to be him. I don't care what anybody says. That looks just like if you sell like, because I've studied the zodiac and they have like the zodiac, compile it sketch and every single person they try to put next to it and say, oh, this was the zodiac, this was the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing like the composite sketch. I would know that Trump without even seeing the side by side like that looks uncay and he as fun you.

Know, it's funny. The hair even fits him. Today's still the wow, it's like very sometimes stick on one side and the weird eyebrow.

Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture of them at that time. I can't find a picture by the age of twenty five or twenty six, like.

One of them sticks up way more than the other one. That's crazy, dead dead river for real, for real? Yes, oh thank you.

Yeah, I mean it does. It does have bear resemblance. There's no question.

I mean, you just blew my entire mind because I've talked about Roy Roy Kane for the last like year now, since I read the pet the I covered it in the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill and I found out about him and his connection to Trump, I've been talking about him, and I'm.

Like, people need a lookit into this guy because he's fucked up. But I didn't note to the to the degree cross dressing and shit like that son of Sam process Church.

Oh my god, I don't think. I don't think Donald Trump knew Tuesday well, but he definitely knew her. Cousin Bill Weld.

Mmm, you know the politicians crazy?

I wonder Bill Weld ran againstm Right in twenty sixteen.

Right he was, He was the Libertarian Party's VP against Trump a twenty sixteen Bill Weld, can.

You find a recent picture of her? I feel like that would be a good way to sum everything up. I just wonder what she lives like now.

Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as you know, comparison to like you were saying, Marilyn Monroeane Mansfield, I guess right.

Yeah, who died very ritualistically.

Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the under sad cult people, damn it.

She was also on the.

Westchester Politician, Westchester County Politician.

That's nuts.

She was on She's Buried there.

The album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you know the Beatles cover that's got like all different Sergeant Peppers, sorry, Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's commonly mistaken to be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield.

Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansfield, not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if you like Tuesday Weld in twenty twenty.

I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if you'd see some sort of commonality between all.

You should pull it up, because actually I have one. I was is that her right there?

That's supposedly her in twenty twenty she don't look terrible. No, that's what I'm saying.

She doesn't look you know, she's got her hair, you know what I mean, seems maybe have her teeth still, you know.

Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably from all the Yeah.

She doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a demon dushy.

Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her face or whatever they do baby scrot the blood. Yeah yeah, yeah, all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's bee holes, right, But yeah, no, Nick, pull up that cover because I actually I feel like this is the cover that people talk about was like one of the major signals that the old Paul had died and was

Well, that's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no way that's the same Paul.

Yeah, to me, it's not. If you look. If you look, it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. See if you look at the original Beatles, it's like they're all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at the grave. And then it's like a super tall Paul in blue that's way taller than the Paul over here, because he was supposedly like six inches taller than the old Paul.

Marlon Brando mm hmmm.

I mean Marylyn Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in black and white. Yeah, but she's not the center of attention, not like Jane over here. And they're standing out a grave, which I've always thought was significant, Like why are they standing at a grave with the old Beetles like sad and crying and shit? Right, I just I don't know. There's something about the little girl in the chair too, with the red and white striped shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah,

Creepy, Yeah, like on the armor actually does something like that.

Yeah, So there's something about that too. It was like the transitioning between the Old Beetles and the New Beetles and the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul.

But it was right before this sixty six.

This is sixty seven mm hmmm, twenty years ago today Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play.

Is often assumed they're talking about Crowley. He died, so.

But yeah, I mean I think this is one of those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why why put it together in that way?

Well, their process, I mean you're doing, yeah, weird process stuff. Well that's where that's where John matt Yoko was it the Process? Mayfair? Yeah, it was.

It was owned by Paul McCarty, the original Paul's girlfriend's brother, Jane Asher, was his girlfriend. Peter Asher, major major music producer guy in Hollywood till this till this day. I think he's associated with the p DDY stuff. I'm not mistaken that he was a member of the Process and he owned the coffee shop and headquarters over there in the Mayfair district. Their first cousin, Jane and Peter Asher's first cousin, lives in canab Utah today.

She's an og member of the Process.

So do you know if the guy who shot John Lennon was Process?

Because we were just talking about that.

Actually, we were just talking about that Friday night, weren't we, Nick, Yeah, we were on our Friday night show. We were talking why do we start tall because our guest was talking about the jfk assassination in Lenin Van's and I was like, I know a Lenin Van and there's a guy that drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon.

But we started talking about the process and everything else. Really, are you know from air Stephen King murder John Lennon.

I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David Wasn't that his name? Chapman Chapman Yep, he was a good friend of Kenneth Anger. Yeah.

He had some connections right to scientology too, I believe right.

So I just wondered if the process came in and anywhere with that.

It's interesting.

I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened to Dakota Building.

That's where Bob Cocaine Evans and Roman Polanski film There's Satanist Ship. Show of the film Rosemary Baby was supposed to start Tuesday. Well until she turned it down.

I was gonna say, you go, there's the tie back. It was supposed to be Tuesday. The High Priestess Witch herself no I'm.

I'm sure there's more to the lend murder there with the process, for sure, quite.

Positive, who fucking even knows, But yeah, I think this is a really great place for people to, like, if they've never looked into her, or if they're this this is like the first time they're ever hearing about her, to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's you know, if you start at the top and you just go all the way down, there's so many things in there you just would not believe like she's connected to or that she people, that she knew, the circles

I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you date music, right, Yeah, yeah, by dominic Queen right, Hi, Yes?

Would you believe that domin Clean's forefather is first of all, domin Lean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati.

His forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was a member.

His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most certainly knew Eliza Weld, Colonel.

Eliza Weld there and they served together.

So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because they say that's.

What it was.

Yeah, it was like there were there rumored to be dating right, Weld and MacLean, Right, and that's what he writes that song about the tribute to the power well the whold their families have history together.

Holy ship, because I never I never what the tie was because they said, you know that plane crash, it was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was supposed to like ascend into whatever, and then the the American Pie song was supposed to be about that and about.

And then oh my god, do you know the source of that sale you just described No, Jeffrey Dean Turner the autistic man in the Kitchen to sing to say California. Yeah, that was from the Rightley series. Oh my god, that's what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's got you make some good points. He makes some good points.

I want to meet the fucker. I want to mind my show.

He's still alive. You could probably should probably contact him.

But that song is definitely about that song is definitely about a ritual. I mean the last the last the entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice? The tanic rituals? Everything else?

Mm hmmm.

One of my favorite songs too, is crazy you know, you know when you the first time you hear it, Like I was a kid the first time I heard it, and you just sing it, you know, and passing because it's catchy, but it means something totally different to me as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And by the way, if I was to ever get in contact with this autistic guy, I would not want to interview him alone. I would definitely need back.

We know, if you get ahold of him several people you get ahold of the moment, I'll come. I'll come question the man. I'll talk and autism with the guy.

You know.

Yeah, you are not autistic, are you?

I don't I've ever been tested. My son is extremely He's definitely autistic.

But you know that.

I've mentioned to Colby before because like we've done shows together, and I'll be like, the way JJ can recall information, you know, maybe you are autistic. I don't know, dude, Like I can't remember ship the way you can.

My son's got me. My son's got me beat you know, he's a he was diagnosed, so they never sent me to a doctor. I'm just saying, like he and I operate on the same wavelength.

No for sure, Like I have to have notes. I have to you know, go back because I'll forget shit and like be trying to go off my memory and I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places and like stuff in history.

But yeah, we'll do some autism and autism with the Jeffrey Den Turner sometime.

I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, you have to be there, But no, thanks for having me on though, you guys. I think this was a really cool episode.

Definitely, definitely, No, for sure.

I had a great time. I got one question before you, Julia.

So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon, you know band, but obviously not really Hollywood band either, for you know la scene at all. Really, but Leonard Skinners they saying Tuesday's Gone in nineteen seventy three and they're playing crack she is in nineteen seventy seven.

What are your thoughts on?

Oh shit, what?

Yeah, I totally forgot about that.

Yeah, okay, family my favorite band.

That's my favorite band. I can't forget.

I love Skinnard. Oh my god, it's like one of my favees.

Geez.

August nineteen seventy three.

The jam Tuesday's gone August nineteen seventy seven, most of the band was gone.

Well excellent.

If anybody's told my well, I think I've actually talked to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my show for a while, they know that I've put together all these like weird things that happen in August or around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August. Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out with this song in August and then died what August the next year.

October seventy seven is when Skinner October, which it claimed most of the band.

I think all but three three members. I think we're all well killed there.

Yeah, dude, I mean I think it's weird. Did the song? Did you say the song came out in August?

Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was.

Okay, Yeah, so, I mean there's just we have this August.

August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh, I think were the Manson murders, right, is that?

Is that right? August tenth and eleventh.

It's always August nineteen sixty nine. Hmm, it's always August. If people look and they see, like if you even google like tragedies that happened in August, celebrities that died in August, it's like it's astounding the amount of stuff that that has went down that seems super ritualistic to me in August, Like when did when did Buddy When did the Buddy Holly plane go down? Was that August? No?

I think that was February.

February, Okay, I had a whole list of these August things. I wish I had that list still so I could tell you some of the stuff.

But oh, there's a lot of zodiac stuff popping off along with Man's and stuff right in August that same year, right, Yeah.

Yeah, I think John Bennet was born in August you know, just the more you look for it, you'll find it. And it used to not be significant in me, but then the more I started looking into it, it's like, oh, another August, another August, another August, and so it's kind of mean something.

Given these cult folks we're talking about in their affinity for the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems these people all subscribe to and their affinity for the Star system serious or dog Star?

Is this going on during the dog days of summer? What you're describing it sounds like it is.

It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it. I don't want to tangent too hard, but you know Santos Binacci right in his Holy Science and you know the zodiacting, and it does.

I'm not familiar with this guy mix.

He's a cool guy.

It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what the fuck.

Okay, he's a bigger he has.

I think he's done some great work. I just think he's getting a little old and a little fright out at this point. That's all.

Yeah.

I think he's done the same presentation so many times. He's he's kind of burned himself out on it, but the information is still really cool. And he talks about the Dog days, the serious dog days of summer, and he talks about significant things happening during that time because it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship, and most of these cults and a lot of religions are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is

So cargo cults love sirious, all of them.

The more the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they all love serious. Yes.

Yes, the Uh.

The civilization that built go Beckley Tepe built it in alignment with Serious. It's anciently old. The ancient civilization that built gig and Tea it's on Malta, they built it in alignment with the Star Serious. If you look at the Truman Show even there are several mentions to Serious in the Truman Show with Jim Carrey and also Jim Carrey, the Mask it's a it's a story about Serious and Loki. So I mean it's every if you look for the mask, yeah, the yeah, the folkal are behind the mask. The real

Plates are better than Serious. What does that mean?

But somebody says that, Well, I just wonder because that's who founded the town of Moscow, Idaho.

Was this Plates club?

Yeah?

Yeah, they started the university.

There was the wife of the first president and six wives of six administrators or teachers. They were seven sisters of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems to be some occult origins of that town. I just I don't know enough about Plates. I don't know enough about Stars.

I don't believe in him.

Nazi's describing to me, and so did kid Diddlers, and I don't believe in anything either one of those.

Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's what I care about. I want to know why.

I want to know why need something.

I'm just saying I don't believe in what they're describing it as, right, Like I'm sure something right, Yeah, some kind of affecting there is.

This is al you can look into JJ. It's called the the the Order of the Solar Temple. They were also I think they were dog stars, serious followers.

You know.

It's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me. No, Lie, I recorded part one of a two part series or that with Thrash and Mike probably eight months ago.

And never came about the Solar Temple.

Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot. Oh my god, it's so yeah. Yeah, it is wild latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult. They didn't hide anything. They burned places down, killed people. There was multiple suicides choreographed in different countries.

In Switzerland and France. And they also took all of their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was at the YEA. Yeah, to go back to theosophy, Alice Bailey with the New Age ideals.

Yeah.

I like the way.

Wikipedia describes this cult variously described as a sooteric new religious movement, a neo templar group, a rosa Crucian organization, a doomsday or suicide call, a new magical movement, a magical esoteric religion or a secret society, among many other descriptors.

These people there, they got a lot of skill sets, are pretty prolific.

I like, I like this called dude JJ. Body count is seventy four.

For this guy.

Yeah yeah, that's multiple countries I think are involved, like possibly yeah too, at least I think they.

Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities of seventy four.

They're independent and it spanned over three years of death. Good lord, Yes, you got to look into him. Man, They're they're fucking balls to the wall, nuts so crazy.

Definitely will nix't been telling about him too, for sure. I'll definitely look into him, thank you. Yeah, so I see the serious worship there too. Yeah, they're Yes, it's always serious, it's always.

But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one.

Yeah, for sure.

That's what mind blowing to me.

I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah, let me let me know if you get ahold of that autistic pill, I'll be happy to help.

I will let I'll let you know if I get. You know what, the most mind blowing part of this show for me was cross dressing Donald Trump.

I think, there you go, God you that was a hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on a leash.

Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burka WIT's in the background.

Yeah, yep, parting it up out all the place, just each other.

We don't know if he was there. We don't know if he's Oh.

He was there, come on, and.

He's just pumping, oh yeah.

Singing his number one hit, My Dangling. It's a real song. It's a real song. Was the number one hit for him?

Oh god, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we should do the next one on Chuck Berry.

Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that.

I'm telling you.

Nobody gets tabloid articles.

Right, nobody gets out of touching my Dangling.

I appreciate your all's time today with the Tuesday Wells conversation, for sure.

Any of the folks of the interwebs.

All right, you good, We're done.

Gotta closing savements, you gotta closing thoughts there?

Uh no, not really no, I thought it was really good. Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add. But I mean it was just this just interesting, so many different things that it connects to. I even like, not to bring it back up, but even starting to follow. Like I was thinking for a while at these plane crashes, like there's even something like that's up like this, man, Yeah, plane crashes. RFK have plane clashes to those guys who are for La Bamba. I mean there's all these people.

Yeah, I mean I did a plane crash episode if you guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But Alia is a crazy one.

Oh yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That was something you Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the show now, but real quick, I think it inspired me to do this. I started. I did a couple of shows where I covered the seventeenth of every month and weird stuff that happened on that, And there was one there was a few times where plane crashes were huge, and I'm like, OK, what is up with plane crashes on the date of the seventeenth.

Cause it's an eight. That's the dog star. Yeah serious, the infinity symbol.

Seriously, all right, I appreciate the Operation GCD take over again.

I wasn't gonna have this conversation, not on Occult Rejects when when we're all with you know, when Julian Irony Cult Rejects, we we spawned this whole show off of last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which I can I highly recommend folks check out.

Yes next week, all right, next week, yes, all right, I guess we'll wrap it up here and yo, the chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in the chat. That's what's up. I tried to pay attention to throw up a lot of your comments. Uh so, thank you all again, and thank you Tyler. That's what's up. You're the best. And that's the end of another Cult Rejects until the next one. Dy do well.

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