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Hey, today from the person they actually it was sunny here for like weeks.

Really, Yeah, it seems very dreary over there.

It normally is like we've had like quite good weather, but the last like three four weeks has been terrible.

There's just been this big like there's this big rainstorm and it's like just been pouring out like the past like a couple hours. So it's funny considering where it's been normally like very hot and sunshine. And even while the episodes me and Brett recorded, I was like dripping in sweat, like so like I was like I couldn't even like concentrate. And now it's like this nice, cool, rainy day and we're talking about strange vacations.

I thought you were gonna have some like weird things set up on your soundboard.

Man, here comes this son, but uh yes, welcome everybody back to the show. I hope you love us. If you don't, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know why you're listening.

We're just chilling out at the beach. I'm having a nice cold kind of moves.

What's with you? I'm eving one of these is fucking delicious. I'm a I'm a sucker for like I'm like sick of beer, right, but I'm going.

There some weird wait and see everybody. He's going to be like it's like Samuel Beckett fucking something Friday. Bro Okay, that sounds kind of nice.

It's uh be this be that, do this, do that, v f that vodka Friday that it's a thorny beach. All kind of funny, can saying what we're talking about a peach raspberry frolic? Weird?

That sounds pretty nice. Have you ever heard of this? This is a new drink, It's this new thing out. It's really nice.

I didn't Bill Gates investing that isn't that his his invention?

We see I've I've bought into his subscription service now, so I already got vaxxed up. So time to drink moves for rest of my life.

I know we're talking about strange vacations, and it's kind of fun because in two days I will be going on my own vacation. Actually, I'm going to the cottage we're recorded with Today is a fucking Tuesday. I'm going on the Friday, so I'm pretty stoked for that. So this is pretty exciting to talk about, you know, considering you know where I'm going, and we talked about wanting to do this anyway.

Before we get into it. I don't know how much you care to get into the details of this, but when you say I'm going to the cottage, like set the scene for me as somebody who has no context as to like what that means.

So we travel we used to get We used to for the you know, for it's like five six years ago, the same cottage which I do miss. It was a nice cottage and you like, you know, three hours up north and then you get in the cottage country and there's like nothing but like forests and stuff like that. Hopefully they don't burn them to the ground with fucking dues direct energy weapons. But it's like beautiful out there. And then you start seeing like ads for cottage stuff,

Not as good though, we didn't get the huge that's kind of like why they should.

Picture kind of yeah, And we used to have this like rustic old cabin considering it was next to some very rich looking cabin like like cottages. Like there was a glasshouse looking one, and that one's huge, the one that they filmed the movie at, and they had like

I like, so that that was gonna be My follow up question was like what kind of things do you like to do when you go to the cottage?

So I can't do high doses of the mushrooms I would like to do because Chelsea does not would not want that because they don't know that I do it. Hopefully don't listen to this. But it's like, I'm like, what can I just tell them? What can I just be myself?

Right?

Like, I don't think it's a big deal. People see psychedelics and this like scary, bad thing, and they don't understand how powerful it is to change the human consciousness and brain and mental health and all that stuff. Right, But I'll be taking microdoses, wear my sunglasses, and I don't see my fucking large pupils, but it's mostly rector what does he say?

We are love?

Whatever the hell he says, yeah, and uh yeah, because your eyes can get like that. When me and my buddy did mushers at the bachelor party, like we're both like, we came down, we weren't tripping anymore, and I was like, man, your fucking pupils are still huge. It's like it took over his whole eye almost. I was like, whoa. But like I, we mostly just hang out. We may go on a boat and go for a boat ride. Mostly

Not do well. I thought you were going to say something else because you did stall for a second, and maybe try I want to really try and master.

Yeah, master the paddle board is my way of saying that I'll jerk off in the washroom when nobody what we need.

To do there is somebody needs to clip that and then do that thing where you said master and then it has that weird Microsoft of Sam voice that goes pid yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's I'm excited for this episode. It should be fairly fun. Longtime listeners will know that we did a Strange Vacations episode, like at the very beginning of the show when Justin was still a host, which seems like decades ago. It was only like a couple of years. It just seems like forever ago. Look, we're at the beach. Oh, I thought I edited it to make it fit the whole thing, but we're kind of in the water. Now we're on the beach.

It's kind of nice and I love how right, So we're doing a Strange vacations episode and you look like you're somewhere tropical with the color and like the hat and everything, and then I look like fucking Uncle Fester.

Yeah, they're blue lighting just because well become Uncle Fester pretty soon, do I look.

Like because someone said this to me the other day that this looks like it's fake and I'm not actually here. It's like me standing in front of a green screen.

Kind of just because the lighting is on you and you have the light lighting up the back. My lights are in front of me. You someone could think that. I could see why someone would.

Yeah. They were like is that real? And I was like yeah, and they were like, just it looks like really bad, like cgi weird.

It's now it's real. Just go walk over to it and then you fall into the green screen. I want a green scheme for my green screen for my chair, just for some fun ship for the show.

But that fun I can imagine you would do with that.

I know. I hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far, and so like that we'll kind of bring it to a close. There's a lot of actually fun stuff over at class forecast for stuff that we're adding in near September, and there's stuff still to come, uh, so be prepared for that. But this was kind of fun. I kind of like doing some you know, topical episodes a lot of times, and the fans know this around any time that we can. I like, we've done one Valentine's Day episode,

I was gonna say, I I don't think any of the poor motherfuckers that I'm going to talk about, I don't think any of them came back.

No, no, nobody. I have two cases of like some fun things kind of bring in the episode, but yeah, and I don't know if you have you ever had a strange vacation? Everyone knows mine where my friend got stuck in Cuba. If you don't, if you don't, even ner means fucking about my Shadow People story one thousand times, then go back to the Shadow People episode and you'll hear the whole story of how my vacation got turned upside down very quickly when a Russian guy grabbed my

No? No, but I have had. I suppose. I don't know if you could call it a strange vacation. I had a pretty wild vacation in twenty sixteen. I actually got stuck in Orlando, Jordan Hurricane Matthew. Oh really, And our plane was the second last plane. So we have air Lingis, which is an Irish like air Lingis Airlings.

What the really your plane is on is.

On fired right before we get onto it. And then everybody starts screaming and freaking out. I swear to God, right I haven't.

Then you wake up in your chair and you're like, everybody, get off the plane.

It's like I was like pushing fucking grannies and ship onto the ground to get away because everyone thought the plane was going to explode and kill everybody. So like everybody just starts barreling up this hallway and I'm like I'm like pushing like all women out of the way, and shit like, fuck you don't.

I don't blame me. In times of desperation, people get desperate.

Yeah, I completely just like lost it. And basically what happened was the I must maybe someday when we do just like a random live stream. I have all the live stream and clips and stuff. I took avas.

We should have done that for this year for if we can fit it in. We'll try to, but we're busy bees over at Strange Brew.

But yeah, and then from there it just went downhill. We were supposed to get like evacuated by the National Guard. They wanted to bring us like four hours away to put us in some football stadium. Weird. I was like, I don't want to go to a football stay and we're like, well we can only we can only put women and children into hotels and all the men need to go together with the National Guard.

Why don't we do that with immigration? It seems like a lot of military aged men that come here.

And I was like, nah, I'm good. I was like, I'm good for that, And like, somehow we managed to get a hotel.

Well, howdle you in a football stadium, but you have to play football for our enjoyment while you're here.

And we we get put up in this hotel. It's just like it's a piece of ship. It's like something of a horror movie. You know. We spent a week locked in a hotel room that had no food, no anything.

Wild.

Really, yeah, it was.

Dude, it was terrible, like your ex woman.

No, it was me and one of one of the guys I used to hang out with at the time, and we're just sitting in this room. I have videos insight inside in the room and there's like no electricity and we're just because obviously living in Ireland, we've never

Much as I like Florida, you know, remember, it's just it's like they have a lot of freedom, but just cut that dick off. It's the dick of the States. But you know, it's I don't know what it's like to and I'm sure one day I will with the with all the weather modification and the things that are happening. But we're pretty lucky where where we are, and it's you're even luckier if you go further up north. But you know, I you know, it's it must be scary.

Like I wasn't, I wasn't a huge fan of it.

I wouldn't be either.

And then and then actually, so to finish that whole story, when when things finally calm down and they rebook us on flights to go home.

When they calm down, yeah, sorry.

Sorry, I'm trying to carve my Irish accent.

No, that's fine. That's why Jimmy My the Chelsea Stepdady Scottish and always says, keep calm.

That sounds about right, Jimmy, Jimmy. Yeah, they rebook us on like flights to get home or whatever. And when we get the email, I'm like, oh, okay, we're going to JFK. I was like, look, if things up. I was like, if anything fox up, like my my aunt and uncle live in New York, so they can come and get someone. Just go stay with them for a few days. Do we figure out what's going on?

And then they do them.

It was like he was like JFK and he's like, no, my my thing says at L what's that And I'm like, oh, you're going to Atlanta, Georgia. Then, so we're not going to the same place.

That's fucked because where's he from?

Like both of us were coming back here like we're both weird. Yeah, and they put us on to Yeah, they sent him to Atlanta and they sent me to New York. And then they were like and then we have to get like connecting flights in there, so we get split up, and I'm flying out first, so we say goodbyes, whatever, see you later. Jerk them off a bit. I go and on this plane, we are taxiing on the runway like in a queue of like because obviously there's like a pile up of flights trying to get

Not not my second time, not my story, but I'll tell this very quickly. One of my cousins went to Japan and in there with his buddy, and I was friends with both them, Like obviously my cousin, like, we don't hang out as often. I wasn't allowed to go to family functions because I was not shut it up. So the disconnect started, Like this sees like a lot of family, Like I don't see a lot of my cousins and people like that anymore because everyone got divided,

He's like, fuck left, doesn't like left the hospital left like Japan was like, oh, good luck. And then I remember, like, which is crazy. I don't know what he was on, but this was like years ago and when MSN still existed, so I remember, and this was like early twenties type shit. And I don't know why, like how long I exist or how long I had that but or something like that or email.

Someone was like, what's going on? Man, He's like, I'm just in Japan in the hospital, like and Neil left and I was like, whoa, that's fucking crazy.

That's gotta be even freak here back then, because you have like even less access Like I feel like now, you know, if you've got a cell phone, you're pretty connected to most things. You can probably make something work or you can contact whoever you need to contact. But like back then, like things like MSN fucking email are like very hit and miss. It's like, well, if somebody doesn't check their email, we.

Have to do a rand episode. If the fans want to go mainstream, like it will, but at least for the Patreon this we say subscribe. There's like so much stuff on the Patreon and we do it as cheap, more cheap than any other podcast out there. But I want to do a r an episode talking about the nineties and early two thousands and like what it was like to go. I want to do an episode about Emo shit because I want to. I just want to

That sounds right to me.

Zambia in twenty twelve, when the court snapped and she plunged three hundred and sixty four feet for all the listeners in the States, one hundred and eleven meters into crocodile infested zam the Zambic River below. She was swept down the swollen river with her feet still bound together by ten meters thirty feet of rope, and spent forty minutes in the water until she finally managed to grab onto some rocks and an employee of the Bungetug company

I nearly I nearly done that a few years ago in Florida. Again, I think when I was going there, that place just seemed like the wild West. So all

To both of his fucking ankles and his knees and oh no, no, no.

Just get much worse. It's much worse. He went to Australia and he trained to be a skydiven instructor or whatever you call it, Like the guy who goes with people attached to him, done that for years, and like I want to say, right before COVID, he done a jump and something went wrong and he hit the ground and died with no parachute.

Wow. See, this is why I don't want to do this, Billy, because he keeps trying to. He was trying to influence me and be like, we're doing this for your bachelor party. I'm like no, And he enjoyed fucking with me because I'm not a fan of heights and he's like I'm scared of heights too, man, Like, no, I'm not doing that, that risking because I don't Actually, yeah, I'll have control, Like that's the idea, right, Like I love horror movies because I have control over that, even messing around with

Even as as a I guess what you would classify as a grown man, Yeah, that stuff still makes me ship my pants if.

I get like, I know, especially once like in the future, if you come over here, we'll definitely have room to stay sooner or later when we like start like renovating the house and stuff like that. So it's it's gonna be a wild time. You should just move to Canada. You know, people have made it work, you know, you know.

What, right. I was all up for Canada and then I met you and you weren't really selling me on Canada.

No, it's an authoritarian, communist style country. But it's it's okay right now. It might get a little worse, but they're trying to turn your kids into something that they're not in schools, So yeah, it's not it's not fun here, especially in Ontario.

It's yeah, like they just moved there and like just live on a property somewhere and just having nobody bought.

Her, MISSI, I will build a shack out back of my property.

Zed you've read that doesn't have to like conform to any like weirdness.

No, I and most Canadians are against the same things that I am. It's just gone too far and most most Canadians I don't recognize their country anymore, which is quite sad. So let's get to the next one before we dive into some of the disappearances and who knows, but this one is just fucks because I just want to mention it. British tourist Rochelle Harris was on a flight back from a holiday in Peru that I would love to do preus where you get ayahuasca trips and

For me would just be like because that's what I'm picturing, that's what they look like.

Really, do I have that? I? Oh, I didn't say it man, anyone. Oh no, I wanted to freak you out that image And did I not have it? I've fucking got an there's an image of like when maggots look close up and it is disgusting. I couldn't even look at it. It was like making me feel ill. But it's pretty much like this.

I'm pretty sure the idea of that shit in your ear.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is a zoom. Didn't think of a megot they look like that. If you like, google what a maggot looks like close up? It is disgusting. So she remembers walking through a swarm of flies while viking on her vacation, and one had been buzzing in her ear. But sorry, that's my thing. But but but but um uh, and she remembers hearing this buzzing, But once she waved the flies away, she thought nothing more of it. The insects a New World screwfly, which generally

Damage, but so fucked man?

All right, do you want to I'll throw it to you for maybe the first disappearance on vacation. I don't know who you have first? But is it one of the more famous ones?

Um?

Yeah, like I feel I feel like upon looking at them, all of them are fairly famous. Yeah, a lot more famous than I talk. Oh yeah, I guess we'll go with the I don't know how you would pronounce it.

Natalie, Natalie, Natalie Holloway, Natalie Natalie, would you pronounce Natalie? Natalie? Natalie?

Now?

I knew it Natalie, Okay, I knew it Lalie when I was growing up. And we go with the dances and stuff like that, and she was like one of those chicks that wore makeup before all the chicks did. And she kind of reminded me of us of Bulk or whatever from the Craft.

Oh nice, did you kiss her?

Actually, we're at one dance and me and my buddy had a contest of who could get the most kisses. And and I don't know why, we're like teenagers. I'm like, I would get like, really I found out about weed. I would get really stoned. And I remember, like, you beat a crowd of people. It's our dances were back in the day. They'd be like a wash pit of people trying to get into the dance. It was like dances that were like sponsored by the community on like

That sounds pretty hot.

I wasn't a nice guy though when I was a Teenager's.

Rude. Not this not little? He didn't know hard right, No, maybe I did. That's okay.

She is very good looking though she is.

Yes, I was gonna say, I'm gonna start making a hat with jokes and like really controversial things, but I think I'll just keep my mouth shut.

She has blonde hair and blue eyes. Yeah, pretty pretty. German ancestors' just Kidding's.

When Natalie Holloway, who was born in October nineteen eighty six, went missing during a high school graduation trip to Aruba, it sparked an international frenzy with hundreds of volunteers, investigators, the FBI, Dutch soldiers, all United in their efforts to find a missing girl. Despite several witnesses of her whereabouts on the eve of her disappearance, she was never found and is currently presumed to be dead.

Can I say something different? Can we get that much of an effort for missing black children or indigenous women?

You know?

Like, can we not?

No? No boring?

Yeah, it's gotta be a blonde hair, blue eyed, white woman to get the National Guard involved.

Yep. Ten different people were arrested during the investigation, but all were later released and no one has been formally charged. Natalie Holloway was reported missing on Mate Hardy at two thousand and five after she failed to report to the airport for her trip to return home from Aruba. Her packed luggage and passport were found in her hotel room. Her classmates and friends reported the last seeing her leave Carlos and Charlie's restaurant and nightclub with three locals, a

It is.

Like this dude, is this dude is ballsy? Right? I like I would see it in a second, Like, but it's just.

I just was a beautiful, blonde, blue eyed lady. I just picture, like what is it? And everyone's like panicking. It's like, what is it another? Is it another black baby missing? We don't got time for that. It's like it's a it's a beautiful, cheerleading, blonde, blue eyed woman. And everyone's like, all right, are hands on deck?

Perfect? Perfect?

So it is wild because I know that like this happens often and nobody cares until it's and I'll say that a white lady.

The search for her was extensive. During the first few days of the search, the Uruban government gave thousands of cy servants that they have to help with the search efforts.

Everybody, Yeah, I know, right.

Fifty Dutch marines were also deployed to the island to sweep the shorelines, and three Dutch F sixteen's were specially fitted with infrared imaging devices to scan the land for fresh Actually doug graves, but which is wild that they went to that extent despite their efforts and over three million dollars spent on the investigation, which is over forty percent of the Aruban police operational budget. Her body was never recovered. So then they have Dutch people her mother,

Why the.

Sex trade? Yeah, you know what I mean, she's a beautiful white lady.

When she was seventeen.

At seventeen, Yeah, that would this is what is what they're looking for?

Eighty six ninety six. Sorry, no, she wasn't. She was a little bit older. She makes it even weirder. And she was nineteen and that van der Slut dude was seventeen. Yeah, weird. Thearies as to what actually happened, so Vandersloute changed his story of the events several times. After stating that he and the brothers dropped her off at the hotel, he was later recorded saying that he and Holloway spent some time on the beach, where he left her alone by

Well, we know in Canada if you listened to our our episode on serial killer, give me a side, whatever, just keep going, it will come to me. But they paid a serial killer, Clifford Olsen, like money, thousands of dollars to find the bodies of his victims, and I, as far as I'm concerned, I think the family did get it. They might with withheld some of it, but they He was like, if you give my may give me this much money, I'll show you where the bodies are at. And he like, I'm pretty sure I remember

So fucked so yeah, he demanded the money and he gave them locations, but they found nothing. Almost immediately after this, on twenty ten, he was arrested. This is fucking wild. He was arrested in Peru for the martyr of a woman named Stephanie Floresund strangled in his hotel room. After can infescing to the crime. He was sentenced to twenty eight years in prison, after which he potentially faces extradition to the US for an indictment on the extortion charges.

It's a wild case. I always knew about Natalie Holloway. I've heard about this case numerous times. It's sad like and that's why I it is sad, but I just want to make people aware and clarify. This happens all

To which probably worse.

Yeah, you get in and eventually when me and Aaron do cover Hostile on Class Forecast. That shit does happen, maybe not to I even think to probably a worse extent of what the torture and stuff like that and some of the things that they do, but that stuff is very real. And that movie, why I bring it up, does show how they use like young, good looking dudes to kind of influence women, especially younger women, and like

Because sometimes I feel like they just sounds so grim and this is not my opinion or whatever, but it's just the facts. I think. Is like you know, like you said that, you know they take these girls when they're maybe eighteen nineteen, you know they've went on their first post high school pre college trip or something like that,

Like, see, I was gonna go in a different way, darker road is they would use their organs eventually. Well, yeah, because as much as people don't want to think about that, I've done enough research to know that that happens more often than anyone would like to admit, and that they use big business. Yeah, it's huge business. And that's why I do believe like eventually we're going to get into an urban legend episode. We're gonna bring Brett and Billy together.

I mean, the other side of me is I can't in a way, I can't help but feel like that all those urban legends come from somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, they come from real stories, you know. Yeah, so it's like, huh yeah, because even watching even prepping to get into our I know what he did last summer series on class forecasts, right, like watching that, how they joke about its fucking fight, Prince Junior's joke about it. Oh, or religions come from a real story. And I even said, I was like, is that true? Though me and were watching it, I was like, no, that's true, is it? And but I I think that there might hold some truth to that.

Yeah, yeah, that's pretty key. Like I would like to think, oh, it's all bullshit, none of this happens, But I don't know.

It's hard to tell anymore what is real and what is not, you know. So let's get into the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley. It's a very bizarre story. It's very weird. So Bradley was a twenty three year old woman from Virginia who is missing on a Royal Caribbean International cruise with their family on March nineteen ninety eight. Missing on a cruise ship is probably pretty scary, to be honest.

So I right, and this sounds right, do her because they're supposed to be like terrible and like the most gross things ever. But I have this, like one of my book list things is to do a cruise like from I don't know if it's like Miami or somewhere like that, and do not like, is it like the Caribbean or whatever it is.

I know we've talked about it because even Chelsea's like has heard that there. You know that cruises can be pretty fun, you.

Know, and I would love to do it once. But then I also hear a lot of stories about how when you basically step foot on a cruise ship it's like the wild West. So I've got to be prepared for literally anything to go around.

So when I was younger and I was a chef, my dad's like, oh, you should go like work on a cruise ship. I as it cook. It'd be cool, like they're always looking and you get to vacation a bit. And then I talked to a chef, an older one, and he was like, don't do that. And I was like why and he's like, they treat you like shit.

And that's another thing about like, like I obviously true crime and like strange and mysterious disappearance is probably more than ending more. I think I just become fascinated with like the idea of like how these things happen. And it's freaky to me how many people have gone missing or just like disappeared.

From cruise ships and and and disappeared. In general, cruise ships is a huge thing. And I'm the same way, right like that, I try to put myself in their shoes. I've watched a lot of horror movies I feel like in my life, so I feel like I I think about it in this very detailed, complex manner where I try to put myself in their shoes and try to think what it'd be like to be walking alone at

The idea of going overboard on a ship's in general, but then the idea of going overboard off of.

A cruise ship at the dead and night.

In the dark, and ye that like no amount of emon or shouting is going to like do anything. And let's say you didn't die from the fall or whatever, then maybe still being coherent enough to watch that ship.

Yeah, go, and that ship is gone. It is pitch dark other than the stars above you. It would be the scariest, most frightening feelings in the entire world, next to maybe being sex trafficked or some other horrible things.

I'm gonna perhaps this.

Why can I not pronounce anything on his show? And I know how to pronounce this, but here, I'm gonna bring it up. I'm gonna start googling things, so I know, Kroco that sound right, I'm gonna I hate butchering this shit. Pronounci so embarrassing.

I'm as bad like so I standing, okay.

Currosaud God, I knew that because it's a fucking liquor called currasud. God damn it it. It looks like something very different. And I remember, like, this is based on of a liquor, a flavored liquor that's pretty good. They have different flavors. And I used to call Kraco and it's Suracao, and I remember I'd probably be like, that's not how you pronounce it, pronouncing it wrong for a long time.

Fuck.

So the ship docked at the search for Bradley and began because they realized, oh no, another white woman is missing, you know, And the image that they used on some of the FBI stuff is not appealing. In my opinion, they should have used a different image and maybe people would have cared more. I'm fucking kidding, feel bad. It is sad that she went missing and frightening that she just disappeared off of a fucking cruise ship.

What did you just say?

I said that they used to better photo.

For because I was gonna okay, so I'll I'll take the heat for this one now and say what I was going to say a minute ago, so everyone will forget what you just said. I was going to say, Well, it's one thing is for sure here. She wasn't sex trafficked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we're all about. We're all about the dark humor. So I hope people like it. Well, this is what you're here for. If you don't know that, I don't know why you're listening at this point, but we want all the fans that truly understand what we're doing to give us five star rting reviews and subscribe to The Patriot. So she went missing and saying so after a pair of tourists once they like docked, claimed to have seen Bradley in Sarah Cow saying they recognized

Like I went pretty like deep into her story a couple of years ago when I first came across her name and whatever, and like there's for me anyway, personally, there's a lot of like and I don't mean this as like, oh, maybe we should look at like her family or whatever per se, but like there's a lot of little inconsistencies, like where her parents said she was terrified of the open sea and she had to be

Do you think that which is quite possible, especially God knows who's going on these cruise ships to find people and like it, thinking about it could be quite easy in some regard for someone who is skilled at taking people, you know, like the movie Taken, because you even look at that movie, it is based on how they can take women. And then he's trying to find his dark phenomena movie. I do enjoy it and him going after the people, but even you see how they even set

Yeah, Like, there's there's so many weird things about this, like then that all these the first one weird that like discovered that she wasn't on the balcony anymore or whatever, but then you know, they said stuff about like between five thirty and six am. Then know that she changed her clothes completely and that she took her cigarettes. Yeah that's weird and stuff like that. So it's like, okay, so now you're saying she came back in from the balcony and got changed out whatever she was in and

Yeah.

I know, and I'm not saying that the cruise lines are involved, but like part of me has to wonder, like is there a bigger like you mentioned taken and that kind of gives you a slight. I know it's obviously a Hollywood movie, but it's like glimpse into potentially how big those.

Okay, get this, okay, right right, think about this conspiracy corner. All right, you get you get like Jeffrey Epstein money. You know, you fucking you're a philanthropist, and you just make tons of money doing very shady things that are all connected to very powerful people. You buy a nice, big boat and I always say, like a cruise ship.

Well yeah in one sense, like because a lot of people say, yeah, but if there was, if there really was these rings or these.

Like eighty five thousand children are missing at the poet know.

That like groups that groups do this or whatever, you know, why why would they let it become so international and widespread? And I was like, think about this for a second. Right, if you're trafficking hundreds of thousands of people and children, right, and one case gets so much press, like to the point where it just floods everything, and like it still

I have to look this up if this is factual. But I don't know what is factual anymore because every internet service is probably lying to you and giving you articles that are based on fabrications. But the person I heard that, the person that rated the Amber alert was

The thing I found was like when everybody was talking about all this shit about like the air conditioning, like going and all the theaters, Oh my god, I can't see Sound of Freedom the conspiracy, and I think people are more interested in like the TikTok conspiracy about like why I can't watch this movie than hold last second, like they didn't invent the wheel here? Like did anybody go to see that movie and go trafficing is real?

I know exactly that that dude, the dude that is the main character of that movie. I can't remember his name, but yeah, if you want to look it up quickly. I just want to mention that he's a little bit of a sketchy character that seems to me telling these outlandish tales. And the weirdest thing is quite strange is that he was doing one interview and he was wearing a Masonic tie. So I saw people like in the in the known, in the know, people that try to

There is there is something weird about him, though.

Yeah, I think I really think that this isn't being used as another distraction away from oh everyone's aware of it. Yeah, okay, we're all aware of it and you know, but nothing's being done about it. We should have people should be standing up in like the millions to be like, enough of this, Why is this happening? But we don't, And there's no explanation for Ghislaine Maxwell, she got arrested for

Yet? Just be that.

Just like that, when we talk about David Grush and all that shit that has his name and the UFO shit, it's just like they and I said this, that's probably a distraction. He gives you no fucking evidence. It's just a statement from a guy that is an insider and worked for the government. So we're just supposed to believe his fairy tales of shit, you know what I mean, while providing no evidence, you know. So it's quite bizarre.

Which image is that she's not?

She's scantily dressed. I'm trying to pull it up. It looks kind of like shit.

Oh yes, the image of her on the bed.

Yeah, I try to break his computer, doesn't let me save.

There you go.

It's looks like her, but she kind of looks like she's having a good time. It's fucking I don't know, this is fucking scary. Here, let me fine, I just want to pull up this for everybody on the video side of things. Okay, let's look at this. Okay, look at what they did to her in the progression of what it's a it's a missing person photo. And then they excel it to what age she could be at now, and they gave her no, no, no, no chin no

In the middle one, she looks like those fucking those warm dudes are the men in black?

No, that's what I'm saying. They didn't do a good job because she's not like her. They made her head look the same size of her neck is that of the conspiracy and this is the picture.

Mm hmmm.

It's bizarre. It looks just like it. In the teeth even that's kind of frightening. And I don't know, you can kind of see in her eyes that.

She's a little bit of a wonky and it looks like she has that same wonky yeah, but.

Even her you can tell that she's like it seems like if you read like man Uism's bio language, it looks like she's kind of like it looks like she's uncomfortable. But being like it looks like she doesn't like what's going on. I think that might be her and that is fucking frightening that and it doesn't it doesn't matter. I'm sure, like, you know, there's people that prefer kids, and she's like that fucked up, okay, But I'm sure

Here's a question, right, Other than like, obviously I know kids, it is a different thing in itself, a lot.

More expensive to look up hot dogs and what they're worth.

Do dudes ever get abducted?

I don't know. I'm sure they do. I'm sure little boys do, which is fucked up, but I'm.

Yeah, but I'm talking about like, you know, when we go into like the seventeen eighty nineteen year old guys.

I'm sure there's gonna be a fucking that's something.

I'd like to look up at something and see, like is that actually a thing? Yeah, because I feel like there's like the world is all fucked that, Like I don't know if you could find something. We could probably sit here and try and think of the most bizarre random thing. Yeah, yeah, and it would and then like you would google it or whatever, and like you would find it. There's like a whole community that like a door.

I'm sure that younger men have gone missing. I feel like it's slightly hard or it sounds bad, but there's a big difference between men and women. If people haven't paid attention to it, I don't know. If I don't think that's a thing. I think I think it's very new. People for centuries have been believing that they can just identify as a fucking banana, and then they were like they turn like into some soft mush thing that you peel away and you eat like a fucking monkey.

That's a weird analogy.

But that you know, you would think that like you would be more I don't know, men, even younger men, they I feel like it'd be a little harder to try to kidnap them because there is physical strength even you're like, if you're a fat dude, nobody wants you. But if you're a good looking this sounds bad. But if you're a good looking like strong, like you know, or even skinny, your younger dude, you I don't know. I feel like men are more inclined to punch you in the face, you.

Know what I mean.

They're more like they will get aggressive. We have this tosterone, so we will like you'll end up getting like aggressive and angry, and then your fucking nose is bloody, you know. Try to pick up this kid as a younger kid when they're a week you know what I mean. You get someone like the Rock, which I think he's involved with some shady shit I've heard, you know, a big, strong guy. You know he'll be able to take him on.

Deepaky, let's see, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna skip it over one and come back to it, and we're going to kind of keep with the team to a degree. So obviously the first case, like Coverard was set in a Ruba, and it looks like we're going I didn't realize how freaky a Ruba has turned out to be a story of Robin Gardner Guard Guard on the second of August twenty eleven.

I can understand why trafficked. Now, she's a good looking woman. Just she is, you know what, right, I don't.

I don't want to say similar to Natalie Holloway, but like again, it's like the the blonde hair, like the slim you know, that's slime kind of whatever.

There's Robin, there's Natalie, Natalie and then Robin.

You know, their mother and daughter conspiracy. Thirty five year old Robin Gardner had been staying with her boyfriend Richard Forrester at his house in Maryland, United States. She had a nice life. She loved to travel, loved her two cats, Kobe and TOONSI, and enjoyed shows like The Real Housewives of New York. Richard and Robin had decided they would like to live together and had just started looking for

I'm like, it is like all these cases are like disturbing and wild because there are cases that are focused on and I'm sure this happens way more often than these famous cases of people that obviously had people that cared about them, but like looking at the images and like just like this one, she's like staring at the camera,

Yeah, it's like and again like this is another one where like apparently the police. The police took him out on a helicopter to look for and he pointed out the area where he last saw her. A huge search took place. More than sixty officials, FBI agents, Aruba ryot cops, volunteers searched the area along the coastline. They found nothing.

Definitely part of me wonders if, like, I don't know, there's I'm sure this happens, but if there's people maybe like him that get paid from traffickers. You know, you live in Florida or whatever, and then you're some you influence women to take trips with you, and then he kind of like gives them over to these traffickers in certain places which he's visited. You know, when I went

I always wonder about that, like what's what's the intention here? Because I used to think of it like, oh, this is just like dudes trying to peddle some bullshit to make some money. But now I feel like that there's a deeper level. It's like, Okay, what is this shit you're giving me? What's the intention here? Is it for me to be like all drugged up so you can like fucking rob me or something, or like you know, kidnap my fucking garfriend or some shit.

I'll tell you stories on the Patreon sometime in a RAND episode if you remind me about Cuba, but once or I can tell is that we knew these Canadian dudes from like Montreal or something like that, and we were talking about a couple of times, like older dudes but funny and shit like that, and in their forties and we're like in our twenties. And they went off

Just I don't know.

Things are spelled with ease and ship. It's it's like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it should pronounce. I don't know. We we suck at pronouncing stuff on this show. Everyone should be used to it by now. I think it's is Eileen, Eileen, Eileen.

Eileen right, Eileen.

Yeah. I don't know how the fuck. I just think it's funny. I wish I don't know. I think that people in the audio will hear me listen to that thing where it's like, how do you pronounce this?

Aileen? So?

Sister Eileen Christie seventy two was a Roman Catholic nun and teacher of theology that's interesting, who left New New York in twenty sixteen for a European vacation. Along her way, she kept in contact with a nephew from home via email. Last time her nephew heard from Sister Christy that's fun name, Sister Christy, she informed him that she had checked into a hotel at Halstadt, Austria, a village near the Alps,

Rude? Is that rude?

Because it no, it was just.

Like she susposed us that. If she got traffics for that reason, then christ I don't even see who.

That.

A number of strange circumstances surrounding the nuns disappearance that failed to add up. One of the only missing items from her room was her swimsuit. This is why I want to bring this up, suggesting she may have drowned while taking a swim. Yet sister Christy frequently swam during her travel. She was a great swimmer, which she you know, frequently took to this area Austria over many years. Her familiarity and experience with the village makes her more likely

Which is equally as shit and scary in a way.

That is, her drowning is peaceful. Would you rather burn to death in a building, say in Maui from a direct energy weapon? I know some people don't think that's the case, but very strange circumstances, carting trees were not burnt down. But this will be weeks out after hopefully they're we're building the smart city after this, so be prepared. But would you rather burn in a fire like Freddy Krueger in some boiler room or drowned?

I mean, I guess drowned.

But.

I sure used like lose oxygen slow. And then I've also heard his terrifying. Some people say it's peaceful, some people say it's terrifying. But how would we know unless you actually died drowning, you know, but the people that actually passed out maybe got saved, they could tell you. We should get some more. Has anyone drowned? Email me

Instagram and stuff. Somehow, I'm not sure how he found.

That scary stuff, So we'll talk about that on a episode for either the main shore Patreon. I got I think two or three more small ones. Do you want me to take on one more. What you want? I have too much, so let's get into this one. It's not too long. This is an interesting one. Poor John Halford, a well liked guy sixty three, He owned and operate

Yeah, like your fingers and stuff, like one of my grandparents and like her fingers or.

Yeah, my grandma's fingers that died.

Well, I think I have. So I broke this Tom doing jiujitsu, and I'm pretty show I either fractured or broke the other Tom. And I have Carlton and both of them, so I've got a couple of cool I can't wait to have fucking me too. We'll do it.

Together while trying to podcast. Like, we'll have AI technology by then that could like control the host show by voice commands. Uh. So yeah, he's going like before Arthur Rise, I guess took over his hands and off he went. He had an amazing time, all while texting back home about his adventures and taking photos and videos of the sites.

Now, the other side of that is, if you dig a little bit more into his story, Yeah, so he some people might wonder why, if he's a married man at that age, why he's taken a trip to Egypt on his own.

He actually he's on his own right, which is that?

Yeah, so apparently he decided to take the trip alone. He spent six pounds taking the trip after their marriage came into severe difficulties.

Did he commits sue? Did he want alive himself? And then he's an old weird right, because.

Yeah, because they said that, like, you know, he drank cocktails and shit. But then his wife was like, I only ever knew John to drink beer and stuff like that for the entire time.

I've ever heard and somebody saw him.

He's like forty years at that.

So if that's true, they're just mistaking him from it for another old man. Could be possible because he looks like your average white old man not gonna lie with suspenders.

Or maybe you know who knows. Maybe he was like, you know what, let me try some cocktails before I show myself off this ship.

Yeah, try something delicious, you know, because like even as I get older, like beer is not my thing anymore. I still love drinking beer, but you know it's I'd rather sound a little more tasty though, also and give me kind of a little buzzed. But I think there's probably, you know, a there is a more evidence. I feel like to say that he probably their marriage got rocky. Maybe they're fighting all the time. She was threatening of leaving him. He is an older dude. He's sixty three,

Like it's weird because, like his wife was quoted as saying, Ruth Halford described her husband John like the following he was happy, certainly not depressed, enjoying his cruise and meeting people, but definitely looking forward to getting home again to be with me. And the children. Although we had some difficulties, it wasn't anything that was super notable. The last known facts about mister Halford indicate that he was last seen on board the cruise ship at eleven forty five pm

I was bizarre. Maybe he just had enough, you know, maybe he's like a fuck I hate these kids is they're ungrateful brats. My wife won't stuck my wiener anymore. I'm done. I go to Egypt and I'm gonna drink cocktails and I'm gonna suck a guy's dick and then.

I'm off the away. To me, that's fucking spook. It is bizarre Egypt. I would I would love to go to Egypt. That's on the book of list for me. But to spooky.

Yeah, let's go, and we'll go to the same chamber that aleister Crowley went and we'll invoke.

The demon. If I go, I'm dressing like fucking Brendan Frasier as Rick O'Connor.

Okay, I'll be that other guy that's the messed up. I'd be like, you're on the wrong side. I got all the horses. Any fucking I'll dress up like him. I'll like, I'll with that little fucking crazy to get one. It is bizarre and it is. His case is just like I don't know a lot of I think that I think that he committed suicide. There's a that's the nobody's taken him unless somehow he like some happened. Who knows, right,

I guess I was going to strugg here it differently and do this one right at the end. But I think it kind of ties in with this because it happened, like I think within like two or three weeks. I've actually and I didn't know you were doing this guy, But this case also happened at the same time, which is yeah, around the same time the case of Rebecca. I don't know, how do you pronounce her surname chryam oh, I know what you're talking about?

Or im quorum Quoreum. Yeah, oh nice, I had that written down, So yeah, I have two more left, sick three if you count my little small Asian one that's not in Asian penis or anything of that.

On March twenty second, twenty eleven, while working aboard the Disney Wanderer cruise ship off the coast of Mexico, twenty four year old Rebecca suddenly disappeared. To this day, her case remains unsolved, so that's far from the only one. Since the nineteen eighties, the cruise industry has enjoyed steady

Anyway, there's like thousands of people.

Yeah, basically that's scary. I'm not going to question the case of Rebecca.

Yeah, I know, right, because I really want to. But then it looks nice even.

And like if shit starts to happen to you, like because I even think right even as a as a dude, and I don't even mean about like getting sex trafficked or anything. But like, let's say you're on a cruise ship and there's like, I don't know, a group of like fucking weird, like creepy aggressive. Let's say let's say both of you guys decide, oh, you know we're gonna

And that's why I'm saying I was creepy these Russian dudes. I end up grabbing my buddy's balls and then like squeezing they what they said to him. So we keep seeing the Russian guys. There's three of them, and I think they were definitely like gaying into some weird ship and they kept like they'd be like you crazy Canadians, and I wear a bandana and shit because I'm a

But you see see what I mean? Quickly, I feel like that ship like turns weird, like hostile. For example, like there's a case of dudes basically getting abducted for like different reasons. But it just goes to show how quickly like maybe is a guy you might think, you.

Know, I'll be funny organs, they want your healthy heart or yeah.

Like let's say you're just there with your girl, like and shit gets weird and you step up and go na, na happening. But you've got a group of guys now and you're on this cruise ship and you don't really know what's going on, and everyone's speaking in different language, and you're like, who the fuck is Like, who's in on this? Who's fucking how do I get off this shit?

Frightening? I hope it scares a lot of people, like it is free.

Okay, So, the the case of Rebecca was one of the few cases that did go public. Nevertheless, the truth about what happened to her aboard the Disney Wonder Disneys unknown I know, which is even more wild. I think, I know, like Disney or into some shady ship. But you would think like that there's kids know of those ships? How does that happen? Let's see, at the time of her disappearance, she was a twenty four year old Chester, England native who worked with children aboard the Disney cruise ships.

She's a fucking Maxwell was in Disney World in the eighties, like speeches and shit.

That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, look at that. That doesn't not surprise me. So they were en route to Mexico from Los Angeles. She was last seen on CCTV footage at five forty five am in the crew lounge, talking on an internal phone line, wearing men's clothing and acting visibly distressed.

Is that this photo? That's bizarre.

Yeah. After hanging up the phone, she was neither seen nor heard from ever again. When she failed to report to her nine am shift, Disney staff were alerted the search the ship for her, but to no avail. The United States Coastguard and Mexican Navy were then contacted to perform a search of the surrounding ocean, but also came up short to any clues. According to Rebecca's dad, Disney disregarded standard operating procedures and didn't turn the ship around

That does not add up. That is like creepy. That's fucking bizarre.

It does sound really Disney. It gets worse.

I think that's why I just want to say that, like, Okay, there's connections to Epstein and Disney and what the Disney like Castle, looks like on the cover, looks like Epstein's Island, same with Ellen DeGeneres's set. All these things that are like weird coincidences. And if you think about it, if they wanted to just like make this underground sex ring using Disney, because we know Disney is shady, Walt Disney was a very shady character, the whole company is shady.

Yeah, you know, and like this evidently, and you'll see in a second that it's in my opinion, it's pretty easy for them to just like make a go away. And the following day they watched from the shore as the Disney Wander left board to set sail on its next cruise. Despite the case being an ongoing investigation, Disney considered the breaking matter to be put to rest and laid flowers on the side of deck five and had a small ceremony attended by some of the ship's crew.

Show you, right, how say like how say that she did commit suicide? She had her lived herself?

Right?

Like say that happened, right, the Disney would want to cover it up. A Disney employee killed themselves, right, they'd want to they'd want to cover that up. And that is just like the surface level, a tip of the iceberg what it could have been. Or they do this more often than people want to acknowledge. And then they just set it up like a movie and make it all look real, but it's actually fake and like leading you away from the true story of what actually happened.

Ye see. I think that's that's kind of what what like rubs me up the wrong way. More than that is like they've obviously got some sort of a like contingency plan for this stuff, because to me, that doesn't sound like something that they just winged at a moment's notice. That was all like, okay, so if this happens, we just say that we don't have any footage of anything. We don't record phone calls. We'll just like crop the footage we do have and it was somewhere else.

It's just wild and story. I don't trust the story at all. I don't trust Disney. I think Disney is a corrupt, creepy organization that has his hands and everything and uh including I think child trafficking in my opinion, and grooming and influencing kids. So I wouldn't put it past them to uh do something really shady like I either had a suicide or somebody going missing where they knew what happened to her, you know. I Yeah, fuck Disney.

It's yeah, and it's wild as well, Like there was over three thousand people on that ship and they've done six interviews.

Yeah, that was really weird. So I have a couple more, but maybe we'll cut it a little short because we talked a little bit more than we thought. These are little cases, like essentially the ones I was going to talk about was there was a famous comic book artist that disappeared on a Caribbean dive, Norman Uh Norman Lee.

Uh.

Yeah, he was a comic book like creator. He did stuff for like X Men and the Avengers, and yeah, he just went missing and uh in a vacation the Caribbean and they went for like a snorkeling excursion and he just never came back, which is scary in general, Like they could the currents maybe were too powerful, and they couldn't even locate his body because while they that kind of went wrong when they want, like they wound up getting like separated and then he was just gone.

This.

I only found one picture of them on the entire internet, and this is it cute Vietnamese cup. Well, you know, like they it seemed fairly happy, but maybe they're like, let's do it together and they hold hands and they jump off the cruise.

You know.

Do you know what's weird actually about that Norman Lee case because it seems pretty clear cut about like, you know, he just missing and that was it. He's just drowned

Weird, why would he be taken to y.

And like his family apparently have been on a big thing about like they haven't shared much with the family

And it's still even when I was reading on it, I kind of looked him up and like some of his images to show while we were like kind of talking about it. There's him like signing comic books, and it's kind of weird, like because I didn't see I saw some stuff. I think I slightly on that, but like most of the things was to go you like it was disappeared in a snorkeling accident.

It's good and sounds bad right straight away. I was like thinking, I wonder like did he have some like pretty good like life insurance policy or something. His wife was like, you know what, I'm fucking sicky.

I think I was gonna kill it now, sick. Are you making those kids lots of money? Yeah?

O yo?

Or he was doing fairly well. I don't know his networth it was or anything like that, but maybe making some decent money creating comic books and signing and doing all that stuff.

Who knows.

Bizarre, Uh, you had one more, did you not? Yeah? Britney Drexel, all right, get to her, and then I'll end it on one that is just bizarre and kind of like just it's a very strange case. It's not that long, so because like like always for the fans to understand, you know, I'll cut this from the audio, but for the video, we're always like we're going to do an hour and a half and it's like two hours in so it's nothing new. That's get to Britney Drexel.

And Okay, so Britney Drexel. On the night of April twenty fifth and nine, seventeen year old Britney left a hotel in Martle Beach, Carolina, where she had been staying owns to her parents. Same, yeah, that would have been like everything I would yeah, yeah, she So she had been staying there with her friends, unbeknownst to her parents

That's really weird. How did you not know? And where is she from?

That this? Where is she from? Originally? That's a good question.

Good time, all the audio, gets got the video, you guys get it New York Rochester and she got there where.

Pretty far, like I think she had told her parents, Yeah, so they She had asked several times could she go, and her mother refused since she didn't know any of the other teenagers well enough and there was no accompanying adults on the trip. She also had a premonition that something would something bad will happen to her daughter. This led to arguments between the two for several days. Then Brittany asked if she could go to a friend's house for a day or two to calm down, to which

So.

She walked to another hotel nearby, sent a text to her boyfriend letting him know she was head back to her room, and she was never heard from again. That night, around eight pm, she left her friends at the Bar Harbor Hotel Beachfront to walk one point five miles south down Ocean South Ocean Boulevard to visit a longtime friend who was staying at the Blue Water Resort. Security cameras at the resort showed her arriving. She was carrying a beige purse and wearing black and white tank top flip

Oh my god, what do you think your daughter is? Like this is the issue. She could have probably survived, And it's sad because even look at some of these images, she just looks like, you know, someone I could have known, you know what I mean? Like they all kind of do actually, like there's people that you would know in your own life, and it's just kind of it's it's bizarre looking at photos of some of these people and

It's just scary. Martle Beach police began looking for her the following morning. They located the security camera footage from the Blue Water resort and found the friends whom she had visited. The last person who had reported seeing her before she left was identified as a friend called Peter, a twenty year old nightclub promoter whom she had known from the Rochester area and who was also a vacation in Martle Beach. They had apparently met at a local

That never happen to trust me, I'm involved with it.

But then I'm gonna follow this up with something pretty funny. A twenty nineteen report conducted by the South Carolina Human Trafficking Task Force raided the county as the number one county in South Carolina.

That's why they're like, no, we don't have that happening here, and they're like, hey, we're making money off of it most likely.

Here's where it gets kind of weird, though. The remains were found and it's it's it's quite recent. In early May twenty twenty two, Raymond Moody, a sixty two year old registered sex offender, turned himself into the Georgetown County Sheriff's office on the basis of an obstruction of justice charge. Police had first considered Moody a person of interest in her disappearance as early as twenty twelve. He confessed to the crime and provided the location of her own.

And they found her amazed.

Really yes. They excavated the site over next three days. May eleventh, twenty twenty two, human reuns were located, burying the woods off of a gated private drive about four feet into the ground, and they were identified as Britney's remains through DNA and mental records. The arrest warrant alleged that Brittany had been strangled and then buried. In the morning of April twenty six, twenty and nine, Georgetown County Sheriff's Office, along with Drexel's family, made the information public

It's just it is.

There's a couple of really good YouTube like mini documentary things like and it shows all the interrogation footage of him, and it was actually his He was with a chick for years and she started something I can't remember exactly, but you can you can watch like the the interview she does with the cops. She basically rated him out and she went and she was like, look, I know that he's like he was convicted as a sex offender, like you know, twenty years ago or whatever or thirty

It's just and from there it just spiraled.

And then eventually he just kind of comes in once he realizes he's been caught, and he's just so casual. He's like, yeah, so you know, just killed her whatever was trying that. Don'e it like this? And they were like, did you do anything else to her body? He was like, oh no, no, Jesus, I wouldn't. I wouldn't like decapitator or like do anything like that or wouldn't I'm not saying.

Oh, but he probably raped her. Yeah, he like raped her, And that's what's fucked because like all the other cases, we don't know what happened. And like, this definitely looks like some chick that I would have known as a teenager, that I probably would have tried to get with or something like that. Just she has that very like small town kind of girl look and it's it's kind of disturbing once you find out, Okay, this is someone that we actually know what happened to her. Her remains were

That's that's weird lazy eye thing or whatever it is.

He looks like what you would picture a serial killer to look. Like, it's just frightening. This one. I wanted you to cover it because it's like disturbing. I didn't want to read it.

There's if anyone, like, I know, it sounds weird, but like if anyone's like interested by the sound of that case, like I feel like we don't justice and what we said. But it's interesting to see some of the interrogation footage and stuff and you kind of hear more like in depth details, but like he's so casual about the whole thing,

So I've been coming and someone like living just be like why could And.

He's like, you know, he's like sipping his coffee and it's all like chill. He's not handcuffed or anything. He's just like chilling out.

In these sociopaths, right, they don't feel empathy for for other people or what they've done, right, they only revel in its fighting.

Dude, there's a side by side picture of her. It's that picture you have of her, like she's wearing like some sort of blue top. Yeah, yeah, that picture. There's a side by side of that, and then him with the fucking night. It's frightening, And I swear of got just just to look at that, like and think that freak like kidnapping her when she's seventeen.

What she like, that's scary. It's just frightening, and that we know what happened to her. The other case is.

He would have been fifties.

And even with the other cases, like and I knew this was going to happen. When we're going through this episode, is looking at some of the images of all these mostly women that like went missing, and there's way more, and we're kind of discussing the famous case. They're all like white women. That's why I want to make it the point of how many other people do go missing of color and stuff like that, because you know it

And it's right this. I don't mean this to sound like sick or whatever, but there's times I look at these things and I I I try to put myself in their shoes in the sense of like, you know, I don't know, like that that girl must have been just like walking forever back to her hotel or whatever, and that's like, how does that even happen? Like does he just walk up and go, I'm just kidnapping you and that's it. He's no choice or like that.

And we've talked about this too, was doing do that where I I, since a young age, w been super in a true crime and and I've talked about the law teacher that I knew that would like make us, he would like pick our brains when I was like in grade eleven. It was a lot of teacher that used to be a lawyer. And even when we did this would got me more fascinated with the researching this stuffs,

It's like and like I'm just I'm looking at this guy like an even in the sixties. He's a dude, big scary like if he can't really it doesn't do it justice. But there's a couple of the images of him coming in and a crouch into the courtroom and stuff, and he's like chained at the wrists and stuff. I'm like, you know what, I'm like, i'd probably have a like

He's like just like I know, it's just creepy. It's and I'm sure it makes people. And that's why you know, women should be careful, you know, and I and you know, women walk and like and they are like the take Back the Night is like a protest that feminist, dude, But it's not even a feminist movement. It's about like women being like not wanting wanting to be scared, you know, walking on the streets at night, and they shouldn't be scared.

I wonder what for, Like you know, maybe I might bring the dog out, like later at night when it's kind of dark, just for a walk, like like around the block or whatever. And there's times like well, I'll see like a woman or a girl and I can tell she's like visibly like trying to be like you know, maybe trying to see like, am I some sort of anythink about murder?

Yeah?

And I feel bad and weird, and I'm like like if I, if I cross the street, does not make this the weirder? Like if I do anything now do I make am I making this look like?

No?

It's true? And bringing up even Bernardo right, we're talking about what happens. He was just waiting at a bus stop in Scarborough for women to get off the bus and then just chloroform or like just take them and force them because he was the Scarborough rapist before you ever turn into a serial killer, and he would just hide and without and so ballsy and narcissistic and risky

This case.

He's in a chair and there's like he's like half dead like a or he is dead like a vacation. Uh what is that, Bernie or whatever, and then just putting him on this old guy's laugh and be like we're going for a walk and they're going to like smoke crack or some Sorry for this if anyone listens to this, that is part of this family. I'm kidding, I'm making assumptions. Who conversely thought that the parents were

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Some experts have been suspicious of the parents' behavior staying in The mother in particular, exhibit erratic behavior and apparently

There's so I remember hearing about the story. I don't know the exact because I think there was a pretty big I know, if it was like Netflix or one of those companies done a docuseries or a documentary about this case. I was back and it was like one of those things that went like you know, crazy viral. There's there's something, Yeah, there's something weird about that case. So if you look at in that documentary they have like the the previously like unreleased policing views and stuff.

Yeah, there seems sketchy even when I was reading through, like even the small little article I had, because all these are like cases that we didn't want to do a full episode on that are based on people going on vacations and mostly one of the most bizarre and strange things that happened during a vacation is you know, people go missing and they're like, it's the parents that

Horror at the campground Real life nightmare is the name of the weird movie or TV series whatever it is. But like there was and I remember in that I can only remember like little bits of it, but like there was shit I think where they said. I can't remember which of them set up, but they were like, oh, yeah, there's a there's a wolf's den near to where we were.

How did you guys know that.

It's home to fifteen or sixteen wolves and that might be something to So like the police went and like searched this then, and like they didn't find anything to do with course sort of that. You know, they found bones and different things, but it was all animal beast or like there was no child.

Someone in the chat commented and said, the dad looks upset and the mom looks emotionless. And if you look at this image, also look at her face, that language shows it all. She looks like she's in disgust.

So who's the the great granddad or whatever? Because I remember him being like super fucking creepy and weird.

I'm trying to see if I can.

Have you got pictures of the foreign and there's oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks bizarre. I thought I had it, but I'm gonna bring it up. I just found it. It's kind of weird and maybe he had some part in it. I don't know, and they like wanted to get rid of the kid. But yeah, that's.

So.

I think the guy down in the bottom right, that's Isaac whatever. He's like the friend he was never apparently, I don't think ever named as like any sort of like suspect or whatever. Yeah, but I want to say, what's his name? That guy Isaac, because I feel like he had some sort of weird story.

Where's baby Dior? Yeah, I see there's a couple of things of this guy. Update on suspect you could Yeah, it's not bringing up his name, Oh Isaac? Yeah ren wah Wand I had nothing to do with Dior's disappearance, so they blamed him. He's a freakish looking guy in some of these fucking photos. Can you say in bread?

Yeah, so you had sort of dad. He claims he was camping with his son when his son disappeared. He says he trusts Jessica, which is the motor. He believes that the child was abducted from the campsite. Says he left him with the granddad for fifteen or twenty minutes. In that time, he.

Disappeared scary looking dude. Yeah, his forehead takes off most.

Of his head. So then you have you have the mother. She says the same thing, that they left him with the granddad. She said she trusts the dad like her boyfriend or whatever, and his story. She believes that the child wandered away and passed away in the mountains near the campsite.

And who knows, we might be being super rude and objectively basing our opinions on our assumptions, but like, I don't know, there's some energy I'm feeling from the photo.

And like there's another thing about it, like you know, they're they're essentially in a way like being like, well, we left him with his grandparent and like you know, he went miss him from there or whatever. But then they also go on to say that so that's it's Jessica the mother, it's her father, that's who it is, Bob Walton. They also went on to say that he was an old, seventy six year old confused man who was on us.

So why would they leave the kid with the Yeah, that's crap, exactly my question as bizarre.

And the granddad said that he doesn't trust Isaac and he thinks it was him. And then Isaac is said to be have slight developmental disability. He was Grandpa Bob's former neighbor and fishing. But he's the only camera that weekend who law enforcement says hasn't changed his story at all.

This is like kind of convincing that maybe he didn't do anything, but that they could blame it on him because he's a guy with mental.

Because I think he was the only one who was never He was the only one I think who police never pulled and and went like he's a person of interest. Then his name was never like but the.

Two parents someone close to the family, if not like even you know, with a certain abuse cases and stuff like that, it's usually a family member. Bizarre.

You know, I always find it weird though, right, don't you feel like if you had a kid. I always find it weird, Like the way parents do that thing where it's like you know, I think he was like eating Yeah, I know, why would you just like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Yeah, I think because we left him with with my my granddad. You know, he can't see, Yeah, he can't see or hear or walk or anything.

He felt he was the kid looking him, but it was the wolf or whatever, like you know what I mean.

It's like yeah, and you're like, okay, so you're basically saying that that you bought, you brought the grandfather out and he was basically like a dead body, so you decided to leave your two year old child with him, and you you went walking into the woods wherever you went, and thought that was like okay, and then when you came back and realized he was gone, you're like, huh, must have some weird.

It seems like they definitely somehow set this up. I'm not saying it's the parents.

Because yeah, and I think a lot a lot of the theories aren't actually that the parents like martyred him or do anything like that. A lot of the theories are they probably weren't like looking after him in the sense of like maybe he fell or something happened to him and they went.

Yeah, I could see that. You know often that happens in that In law class, we talked about one case of a dad that was bathing his kid and then accidentally hit like dropped him or something like that, and like,

Ye like, I didn't expect it to get Like I didn't even read iced that you just said that. They're like how kind of serious the episode got. But it's just such a I think it's it's such a relatable and like freaky thing in a way in the sense of like you know, everybody goes on Vaca, like you're going on a trip on Friday and it's like the idea of like, these people have fun.

And have this a great experience and have the time off work, and then something very scary or like horrible, horrifying happens. Like to me, I would rather to be honest and what I've heard about what the sex rings are like, or even the darker, very dark conspiracy stuff. When it comes to Adrenochrome, I believe it. You don't have to to give a shit. If people don't believe that that is possible. They've in my point of view, admitted and showed us enough imagery and symbolism that they

I guess right while we were recording this, just to give people a little bit of context, so as we're about to finish this episode up right now, it is twelve fifty two am in Ireland right now, right and as we were talking about so of these stories, and I haven't had this feeling in a long time. But I'm there's nobody else in the house, only the dog,

Yeah, and then you're taken and then I have to be like I have very few set of skills. I go there and get drunk and walk around fucking bars till I find you.

And then you're just there. If you went, if you go missing, or anything happens to you, guys at the cottage, I'll I'll give you my word that I'll fly.

The canon and then you'll come to my wedding.

We'll get you back in time. We'll fight over shit.

Yeah, and this we were like planning on covering this within an hour and a half. But like me and Aaron, considering our friendship and how close we are, we always dive down these kind of rabbit holes and I enjoy that we do it, And for Aaron's sake, I always try to be like, okay, well, like stick to this time stamp so we can actually like do it this justice. But just because the time difference, and like you said, it's like one am there, so we'll bring it to

Yeah, that shit's freaky out. Reminds me of like I watched I watched Infinity Pool.

Is it worth watching?

Yeah, but it kind of reminds me of that, like that idea of like you know, you have this couple and they're on this resort and they meet this chick and her like boyfriend or whatever, which is me a God's character, and she's like yeah, no, let's go off resort and like do this fun stuff. And you can tell the other coupler like, uh, we're kind of told not to go off resort. That's like a really bad thing, and she's like, no, it'll be fun and it's like

If I like Mia Goth, I do. I've gotten like recently into considering some of the films like X and stuff like that, I wouldn't mind cover If I do enjoy it and I watch it, I wouldn't mind covering it. We have tons of other stuff that we got on the list, but let's let Aaron go to bed and

So snaked, that's the only good thing about being like, you know, early tarties, balding dude.

Nobody's looking.

I want to have to deal with that. Nobody's so.

I hope everyone enjoyed that. Give us five star rate and reviews, and obviously with the show, because who knows if we do get any sort of shadow band. Consider we were filming this and it's coming out of Canada and the communist regime that I live in, and people are like, it's not that bad. I'm like, okay, we can't read the news man. It's being censored on Facebook and Instagram and stuff like that because they want to skew and manipulate the news to fit the leftist narrative.

DA crazy.

Yeah, that is people want talk about like fascism stuff, because fascism and communism are and socialism, all these different ideologies are very much the same at heart. They usually have one person conducting ruling over that said society comming it's about sharing, but then you still have someone that manipulates and controls that whole system and then uses people for labor and all that stuff, so it's not good either way. And then fascism, Yeah, if you understand fascismor

I guess this is off.

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