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to be a great time. And you can find me wherever you get your podcasts in on Instagram at Dark Floor to podcast.

these are always great conversations. See some familiar face. It's good to see you guys. Tim It's nice to meet you as well as you Jessica.

a long time. We cover everything. We went out looking for Bigfoot, but we ended up running into everything else out there, so I've experienced a lot of weird stuff. Okay, And right now I'm actually on a team where we actually go out and we go hunt dogmen stuff too. So skinwalker caves, you name it, I do it, and it's a lot of fun. I actually, when I was kind of coaxed into speaking publicly. Finally, a few years ago, I was asked to speak at a conference, just a

small little gig. Nobody was going to be there. It was one time thing, and that ended up snowballing into me being on having multiple shows, podcasts and having a live shows on radio station and all that stuff. And I am now known as the Cryptid Huntress. Somehow I've gotten that name. And I am a YouTuber, I guess you could say, now, and I have a show. It's called the Cryptid Huntress. It's my channel. I'm all over

social media. I speak all over the country at Bigfoot encryptied and disclosure conferences and events, all the small town Bigfoot festivals around, especially around Georgia. You can find me pretty much everywhere. Uh but yeah, I one one little public speaking event turned into what I do today, pretty much speaking publicly. But like I said, I never meant to speak publicly. My my teams are not really public, one of them is. But but yeah, we're we're really

big on the research and keeping everything private. When it came to what we were doing out there, we are not only trained, well, we were training. I'm training a whole lot of stuff actually, but one of the main things that my my original team was trained extensively and is called remote viewing. And so I am a remote viewer, the military type of remote viewing, and uh, we use

that in our research. Actually, I do a show every Thursday night that just focuses on remote viewing targets, and a lot of times they do involve cryptids as well, like alledge or suspected dog man attacks and big foot attacks and stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. I'm just having fun, y'all. It's just something I love to do. And why why not you know, do it if you know, I've been doing it for so long, I never meant

to go public. Now in public, I'm going full throttle, okay, And so I'm happy to be here.

UFOs okay and uh. All my science projects were always on black like weird stuff like black holes and you know, spacecrafts and stuff.

but I was gonna maybe find out, you know. It would always always just assume, like it'll it'll come across my path one day, we'll know and uh. And it wasn't until I was a young adult. Okay, I did not go looking for Bigfoot. It kind of came across my path. And uh. And so I had, you know, I was really into like ghost hunting and stuff kind

of a long time ago. And I had had a whole lot of friends and family that had passed away, including like my brother and some of my very best friends and real close family, and so I was like wanting to connect to make sure everybody was okay, of course, and that kind of stuff. And so I got into just being interested in, you know, looking into like psychics and stuff like that. And my mom was always into it. I come from a family of very psychically switched on humans.

They didn't they won't tell you that, they wouldn't talk about it. But like I could not get away with anything when I was a teenager, okay with like my mom and my dad too. Uh, they just knew everything. Like I guess it was psychic. So but uh, but yeah, you know, I would go and get like sessions, like this guy that had a ghost box and stuff. That was before we had those little ITC devices you know, you can everybody's got.

And my mom was going to these like weekly meetups at a friend's house where they would have like a speaker that came in every Wednesday night, and uh, some of the esoteric community in Atlanta. Basically, they would all get together on Wednesdays and uh, they'd have everybody come speak from like I mean, survivalists and people that were selling silver and gold and all that kind of stuff. I mean, this is a long time ago, y'all, to magicians,

to belly dancers, to bigfoot field researchers. And my mom was like, hey, Jess, She's like, why don't you come with me? This will be really cool. I think this is right up your alley. There's some guys from North Georgia who are bigfoot field researchers. I think you would enjoy this. Why don't you come with me? I did my mom. Yeah, of all people, awesome, my mom's awesome. Yeah, sounds like, oh yeah it was. It was actually really fun.

But these men had already established the big It was real. They had already been there, done that, been doing this for decades, right, they had moved on to the communication with Bigfoot at this point.

I I saw their evidence. I saw what they had presented, and I was like, okay, they if anybody's going to see a Bigfoot. These guys. I did not expect to ever go out in the woods with them, but I did have a lot of questions and and I started asking, like, where's the body? Why have y'all never found a body? Where's the Okay? Like I was asking like the crazy questions that people asked me today, okay, and and they

they answered, they had really good answers. You know, some of them had been to like to the body farms and stuff, you know, like up in Tennessee and they're explaining how animals decompose. I mean, I got a lot more than I expected out of those questions I had. But but one of the guys was like, we're having an expedition in October. Would you like to join us? And I was like, well, shoot, yeah, you know, because back then I was like, you know, I was wild

and free. I was young. I was living in Atlanta, and what better way to go have some fun and go see a big foots reeled and going in the woods with some strange dudes. Okay and uh and so I was like, put me on your list, I'll be there.

think I had a pasade or something. And it wasn't forrible drive, y'all. And it was not a good idea to drive this into the North Georgia Mountains where we went, but I did. I don't know how I made it, but I did. And I ended up going up there and made I kept thinking. I was like, well, if nothing else, I'm going to make some good friends, I'm gonna go camping. I had hears some fun stories, and I get to go out and maybe see a big foot, okay, and uh. And I ended up going and uh and

had the most intense experiences that I've ever had. First of all, at night in the woods. Okay, but uh, but crazy, crazy stuff went down, and it was so wild that it was almost like it sucked me in and now here today talking to you guys about it, because if the things that happened that weekend had not been so crazy, I would not have kept going back.

it got it got weird, got really weird. And uh. And so when I when I talk about Bigfoot when I'm speaking publicly, or you know, if I go on a show like I'm on right now. Uh, when I first started doing that, I kind of came out guns blazing, like Bigfoot is probably interdimensional and you know, there's things that happen that I can't describe, I can't explain, and I've had missing time. And when I started doing all this research, I started getting visited by aliens, and like,

people thought it was wild. Okay, so you either so I had. I'm just gonna tell you guys I had. It was very polarizing because here I am talking about my real experiences that I've had, and there's a lot, you know, half half the bigfoot communities like oh, they're just flush and bone and there are a bunch of primates running around the woods right, and and then there's a few there's another half of people that were like, oh, they're interdimensional. There's a quantum bigfoot.

were on the team they had. They brought like a bunch of people in some some very well known bigfooters from all over the country actually, but I didn't know who anybody was at the time. But they were kind of like do an expedition to see if they wanted to they wanted to expand their team, maybe bring a woman or two on their team. It was a bunch of dudes, and so they were excited to have me there,

of course, because apparently Bigfoots like women. Okay, so so they had me, and there were a couple of other women there too, kind of older women. But but I was like, okay, just put me in the weirdest predicament ever. I will be bait. I want to go with the people that are going to have the most action out there. And so they put me with two of the guys that were regularly on the team and then some guys

from out of town. We went to field I think we called it Field number one back then, and it was like we're in this national big big national forest in North Georgia in the mountains and undisclosed location. But but it's like a big group and then at night and during the day sometimes like we would divide off into small teams. And so I went with this one team and it was me and a bunch of guys

and we went to this field. It was like an open field, like a meadow kind of and with a tree line up at the top in the middle of all these mountains and uh, and they were One of the guys was like, okay, Jessica, walk up a dare you to walk up to that tree line by yourself? And it was about seventy five yards almost a football field, okay almost, but it's like seventy five yards up this hill this tree line. Well, they it's a place where they had a lot of bigfoot activity and so they

they knew there's gonna be something probably out there. But but I didn't have a I've been told like, don't use your flashlight out here, you know, we try not to use lights. I didn't have. I had like nothing. I mean, I had a backpack with some snacks and

some water in it or something. Okay. I didn't have a radio like we carry Cebe radios and stuff now, and I mean we've got all the equipment, you know, But but it was just me and my backpack full of snacks, basically, and and they said, you know, go walk up the pitch dark late at night and uh. And so I was like, okay, cool. They were hoping that it would like pull out a big foot, you know, like lure something out. And they were gonna watch me from the bottom of the hill with their night vision,

their flear, their thermal imaging cameras and stuff. And so I knew that if I got taken by anything, they could at least tell my mom what happened to me. Okay, And that's that was my way of thinking back then. I was like, wet least they could tell my mom what happened. I went out, you know, getting attacked by a boofoot or whatever. It's fine. And and so I started up this hill. And and when you were asking

about are they physical or they spiritual? Well this is that's interesting that you asked that question right off the bat, because as I'm walking up this hill, I got about halfway up the hill and I heard one of the men running up behind me and he was like trucking it and I could hear his feet, I could hear his breath like it was it was one of those guys running up behind me and and I kept thinking. I was like, man, that is so unprofessional of these guys,

Like why would they do that just to me? Like, you know, I'm probably scared. You know, I don't know what I'm doing. It's very I kept saying to myself, that's unprofessional, so unprofessional. And I played sports in college. I played rugby, so I was like, I was used to getting tackled, okay, And I was kind of bracing myself for somebody to run up and say boo, you know, or grab me or do something. And I was like, man,

they think they're slick, but they're not. And and as he got up to me, uh, he swept my leg out, my legs out from underneath me, like from behind, and then kept running behind me, went to my left, and I looked over and I lost my balance a little bit. I looked over. There was nobody there. There was nobody, but I felt it I got tripped up. It was a whole experience, but there was nobody there, and and I thought, oh my god. You know, I was super confused.

But then, of course, like your rational brain always jumps in, y'all, okay, So I'm like, well, I must have tripped over a log, I'm imagining things. I'm nervous. My mind is playing tricks on me. Like I was going through all the checklists of like, okay, what what could have what just happened.

continued to walk up towards a tree line. Well here's the thing, y'all. So we had this distress call and if I got into distress, I was supposed to put my arms up over my head and wave. Well I didn't do that. But when I when I got knocked kind of you know, I lost my balance from whatever hitting me. Uh, my hands kind of went up in the air, but like they didn't you know what I mean, Like it was kind of like augh. I h I realized that I didn't need to have my hands up

in the air. And luckily, I guess it was good because Craig, one of the guys, saw it and he came up to check on me to make sure I was okay. He was like, well, we didn't know if you had done the distress call, so I came to check on you anyways, and he and I when he got up there, I was like, are you a human who's behind me? You know? And he and I walked back down. I told him what happened. We walked back down to where it happened and we looked. He got

a splash line out. There was nothing there that I tripped over, and we started walking back up to that tree line. He was like, have you ever heard of a cloaked bigfoot? I was like no, and he started explaining to me. He's like, well, you know, we've had this scene that's happened where you know, bigfoots are like invisible, like we can't see them. He's like, but I don't know. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's a possibility that's what happened to you. Maybe a cloak bigfoot came

out or something. You know that was coming out to initiate you into the bigfoot world. I don't know, Oh my god. But as I'm up there that tree line with him, something kept pulling me over to the right side, and so I walked over there kind of by myself. As I was talking to him, and the guys down at the back, down at the bottom of the hill were watching. They said that a big foot leaned its head out from behind a tree and was staring at me, right in front of my face. Okay, so that happened.

That was the first night I was there, y'all. And so the next night, I mean, I know this, if I told you the whole story to take forever. But the next night we ended up going back there. The next day, my friend JT and I, one of the

guys on the team, we partnered up. We decided to go out there blend into the environment all day from three in the afternoon until one in the morning, and we were hoping that a big foot would were right there with that bigfoot had stuck its head out the night before, And that night we ended up having our equipment started malfunctioning. His went forward an hour, mine went backwards an hour as far as our time set on,

it was we had a strength. We had lights that were like moving in triangular path turns in the sky. We had a big orb that was floating back and forth in a linear movement across the mountain side, and red lights in the in the woods beside us. Like, it was just weird, a lot of it.

which was really weird. Okay, but that's a whole other story. Okay, we talk about orbs lots of times. We have flashes of light out there, we have orbs. I was out there in that same field years later and had a couple of friends with me, and me and one of the guys like he was facing one way, I was facing the other. We were looking over each other's shoulders. We both saw orange orbs shoot through the trees on

either side of where we were standing. And as it shot through the tree on my side where I was looking, it's a flash of light and then a hoof like a huff and a growl together and we immediately checked to make sure there wasn't a bear. Okay, but there was no bear there. We're constantly seeing orbs, that is just I mean, I've had orbs that floated into my ten at night. We have them on camera, all different colors, all different colors. The ones that are the most prominent

would be white. I mean, we have them all over the place. Like I said, we've had lights in the woods as well. A lot of times we kind of joked around about how all roads lead back to et when we're doing our Bigfoot research. And that's the truth, y'all. I actually have another team, which is actually some of the same people from this original team. We have a

location that we have been researching for years. It's called them We call it the Meadow, and this is a place where we have actually documented on camera an actual portal and sent two teammates into this portal not knowing that it was like a portal, and they disappeared and okay, they came back.

of the same similar activity. And from what I understand with Trey Hudson, you guys sent some people into basically this portal and they came out somewhere else, and some crazy things actually happened to the original people who went through that portal, and my right, I heard that they had some health issues and things like that on that property. I would love to hear more about the Meadow project. I'm so fascinated with with the work you guys are doing there.

the Skinwalker branch of the South. I didn't call it that, okay, but I think Trey called it that for his book or something, because he wrote a book. But we've been out there doing research in this area for a while. And I mean, i'll tell you before I get into the portal thing, one of the crazier things that ever happened to me out there was somehow my life has been I mean, I've got a crazy life now, okay, but uh, but this was before I got into podcasting

and like being public. I was not public back then when this happened. But we were hiking into the meadow one night, and uh, and I heard a woman's voice shield time travel really loud from like across the creek where I was at we were hiking in, and I was like, what is that? Well, I haven't tell you, guys, like my whole life now, like I talk about time travel all the time, timelines, time, timeline shifts, time bubbles, time. I'm really I don't know what it is, y'all.

the team came out. And I looked at I was like, did you hear that? He looks at me, he goes hear what? I was like, there was a woman's voice, she said time travel and he was like, no, I didn't hear it. And I was like, okay, whatever, well, y'all. It was like two weeks later to two or three weeks later. I kept hearing that woman's voice in my head over and over again. I was like, what what was that? Why did I hear that? And then I

realized that was my voice. It took me weeks to realize that was my voice from across the creek.

went big footing. It kind of spawned the head of that team to teach us all remote viewing over the next ten years, Like we had extensive training and remote viewing, y'all. And and so I I love remote viewing. It's my favorite hobby, okay, getting help find missing people, soft cold cases, look into stuff, psychically, finding blind targets. I have no

idea what my targets are. I'm giving coordinates. It's a fun game for me, Okay, But I do these things called deep mind probes, and I do that whenever i'm doing a target and like I said, they're blind targets. So if I hone in on like a consciousness a person, I can ask them questions. And I've helped locate like missing bodies and stuff like that before, and it's really wild. So I was thinking, like, you know, I've done deep

thinking on this. I thinking, well, maybe I did a deep mind probe on myself that night and said time traveled to myself. You know, I don't. I'm just trying to come up with some ideas like what that was right? But like I said, things get really weird out there.

I guess you called it an initiation. Apparently in Native American lore, it was common for the juvenile little sasquatches to have to go in front of humans camouflaged by I don't know if they vibrate at some frequency that blends them in with nature or what, but they would have to do this in order to have this like rite of passage or something.

couldn't see it, so they did. Okay, if you don't, actually, i'd probably should start from the beginning about what happened with that and then kind of lead up to like what they experienced, because it's pretty interesting. Actually. And so the team was out, and I want to get full disclosure. I had left right before they went out because I had a little child at home. But I'm going to get to that part in just a second, because I had activity at my home at the same moment they

were having the portal incident. Okay, So, and I have mine on video actually too. So I had been there. We had like a full week, full weekend, a bunch of days out at the meadow, and this was on I think it was on a Saturday night actually, and I had gone home early to you know, go take care of my son and stuff. And so the team had gone out, had hiked out that night. I went home, okay, but they hiked out there, and it was a big team that broke off. We always break off into little

teams and we go. We post up in different areas around this meadow. It's like about a couple acres maybe with some different sections and stuff to it. And so there were some small teams and we just go out there, and we just observed we're not out there beating trees and doing wood knocks and whooping and not out there for the bigfoot. Okay, we're past that. Out there. I'm sorry, we're out there, you know, having other stuff going on.

I mean, we've got my you know, my own voice yelling at me from across the creek out there and stuff. We've got all sorts of a lot of et activity, a lot of other stuff, let's just call it other. And and so we got through.

there's probably everything. Okay, so that's where I highly recommend.

and I had gotten a lot of data. You know, people like that like their families will you know somehow they get you know, these videos of me discussing some of the data with whoever I'm doing shows with and people reach out to me with more information and asking to look into it more sometimes. But you know, my team works. This is all kind of private stuff, so like I don't really talk about it very often, but law enforcement has reached out to my We're basically a

remote viewing team. I can't talk tonight a remote viewing team. We're a big foot field research team, but we're remote viewers as well, and local law enforcement does reach out to us sometimes for cold cases. I was reached out to by the Nancy Gray Show to do to work on a cold case and did a did a big old target for them and all my data. They were like, they argued with me about it. They're like, no, there's

no way it could have been his friend. And I was like, well, my remote viewing data says it was his friend that did this, and there was a fight, and like I went through the whole scenario and they argued with me about it and shout out to their team. By the way, it wasn't Nancy, it was her partner that was on that show. And turns out out all my data was right. They ended up finding the guy's body where I said and everything, so but anyways, people do reach out to me about it, and yeah, it's

that kind of a thing. We use it as far as like finding locations. I also like to do people reach out to me with targets. These are just friends.

like getting coordinate. We can get like the coordinates of the location and I can remote view the property and we can see what kind of activity is going on there, cryptids and all that.

is that what we're talking about? Like are you are you seeing a target and actually like seeing other forms of life?

of dwarf planets. Brown dwarf planets like Mate make or something and Hymeia and I can't remember their names, but all these different oh the Lights on series as well, Like there's lights on some of these planets. And I do a lot of work with actual I want to say victims, but people who have been part of the secret space programs as well, and they have all this testimony and people are like, well, you know, there's no

way to verify this testimony. Well, it's crazy because I'm getting all these targets of all these off planet targets of these planets, and I am seeing Earth. I'm thinking I'm remote viewing Earth because there's humans, apartment buildings, there are shopping centers, their highways, their cars. A lot of these times, I'm like when I'm asked after the my sessions, they're like, he's like, well, what did you see? Him? Like, well, it looks like Earth in the future, but there's slavery involved.

There's a bunch of slavery and stuff, and so it's just telling me, it's showing me, and it's backing up a lot of the testimony from some of these people that it claimed to be in some of these twenty and back programs with a secret space program and stuff. So I've been doing a lot of work with those people.

in several different modes of remote viewing. The one that I use the most is coordinate remote viewing, so that I can have some data like written out on paper so you can see my thought process or the you know, the how the information's flowing out and stuff, you know,

and all my sensory data and everything. But but I was tasked with this target of Earth's weaponized natural portals, and I was I started off that target in the sun like a portal in the sun, which actually would kind of back up the theory that the Sun is a portal and it's connected to Earth somehow. Okay, So I don't know, it's really odd.

what's up, Harley? I was just out with Harley not too long ago up in East Tennessee. Operation it was, Yes, that was the operation that time. Yes, yeah, yeah, we went up there. We're always I'm I'm always out there. I'm always down for some woods time for sure. But uh, you know, about a year a year or so ago, we did like a skin walker investigation, which was really cool.

and think about what this actually is? Like? Is this like what John Kill talked about, Like it's the phenomenon, just like chooses to become, it chooses how it manifests itself. Like sometimes it's Bigfoot, sometimes it's Ufo, sometimes it's Poltergeist. What do you think from your data that you what do you think is going on?

are solid mass, flesh and bone. Absolutely. But can they access Earth's natural portals? Absolutely? Okay? Can they change their frequency? We're all on different frequencies. I don't know if you guys are familiar with, like you know, their vibrational for I know y'all know about the vibrational frequency, but like getting on a high vibe or like low vibe. You know, there have been times in my life where I've actually, uh oh, I never finished my story y'all about the meadow. I'm so sorry.

Something had like windows on it. It was just this cube and he could only see it through his fleaar and so he handed off his fleer to my friend Terry. Terry looked, He's like, yeah, that's weird. And so they called over to the guys across the field and they said, hey, y'all go check this out. Got on there. You know, we got our hand radios out there. Called him over. They were guided over to where this cube was. Kristin pulled out her flear and she started her thermal. She

started recording. She had the record button on, and so you can see. So the video that they have to this day is the guys walking over, being guided over by radio over to this cube, and as they walked up to it, their heat signatures disappeared. Now, they did describe going in this thing. They didn't know they were

in anything. They just standing in the field, okay, But on camera they disappeared, and they said that they noticed that the vegetation changed on the ground from brushy and like hard to walk through briers and stuff to smooth, smooth ground. The stars disappeared, and they said the temperature slightly changed a little bit. Then I said, I got a little bit cold. And they realized there was something wrong because they're both trained in remote viewing. This is

Bob and Tim. Both of them are were tired military special Forces search and rescue guys and trained in remote viewing and longtime woodsmen, okay, survivalists. They knew there was something off, so they backed out of They didn't know they were in anything, but they kind of backed out and they reappeared, and as they reappeared, this cube shrunk down and it floated away. And so it's just it's all really weird, right, well, as they're having this incident

out in the meadow. I'm at home. My son is really happy to see me because I've been gone out in the field. You staying with my with his grandma. And I was married at the time, and his dad, my husband at the time, was filming my son. He had a camera phone out and my son was on the elliptical machine and he was like having fun, and so his dad was like filming him on his camera phone, video phone, whatever you call it. And so my son

is like, you know, yelling and just real happy. And then I hear his dad say, hey, you need to come see this. You're gonna like what, You're gonna like, what this? What's in here or something. So I walked in from the kitchen and I'm watching these balls of light floating around my son. And I got to tell you,

it's the same time the portal incidents having. There's two orbs in my living room and they're floating and my son and my son's like mom ball, ball, mom ball, and he's pointing at them, and he's chasing them with his finger. So you can see that he's clearly seeing them because he's following them with his finger and I'm seeing them. I'm trying. You can hear me in the video say, well, what are those moths or those bugs?

And because I was having a hard time figuring out what I was looking at, well, his dad could not see them with his eyes. He could only see them through the screen on his phone. So he's videoing them. Can't see them with his eyes, but he can see them on his phone. And so eventually one of those orbs shoots into his phone and powers the phone off. Okay, well that showed me that not everybody sees what I see. Okay,

it might be picked up on camera or whatever. But see, we're all on these different vibrational frequencies, and sometimes I'm going to see things that y'all aren't gonna see. You know, y'all are gonna see things that I can't see. It just depends on if you're on that same like it's like a radio frequency. If we're on the same frequency with some of these cryptids out there, we're gonna have an encounter. If you're not, you won't. And even that

even pertains to you know. I mean, I've had ET's in my bedroom since all this happened and stuff, and I saw ET's in my room. Well, when I was a kid, I was seeing ghosts like humans, solid humans, and I'm thinking like, well, that was that projected into my mind and they were actually aliens the whole time.

You know, I don't know. It's just all a matter of frequency and perception and and that that's all that is, I guess, but not not everybody is going to have the same experience as someone who's standing right beside you, Okay. So that's why I'm always telling people like, you know, we I have a lot of success. I guess you could call it out in the field anytime I go. My my teammates used to always be like, oh, come with us, you know, Jessica brings the craziness, the high strangeness. Well,

I I generally have a pretty high vibe, okay. And and I go out with an open heart, no fear, okay. And and I think that opens me and everyone else up to having more experiences out in the woods with things that aren't supposed to exist, okay. And that's why I encourage everyone to have a high vibe, you know, do your inner work, heal your traumas and all that kind of stuff. Be trying to be as high vibe

as you can. I know it's hard these days, but if you're out there doing cryptid field research, it's important that you go out there with that kind.

and that's just my opinion. I'm only because of the way they depict you know, Inky Do and talk about how inky Do lived among the animals and he was just enough human but just enough animal like to be considered a wild man that was depicted like probably like an animal slash human type thing. But my question is like when it comes to these, uh to the cryptids, it always seems like they always have some kind of correlation with some ancient myth and it's not as what

we would be able to describe today. It would be more like to tell phone game. You know, I tell somebody thinking that somebody tell somebody something. By the time it gets to the tenth person, it's a whole total different story with a foundation that may be true, but the overall story is not accurate or you know, close to.

dismiss what people are explaining to us. I mean, we may not fully understand how it's used, or how it comes about or when it, you know, comes to, but we do know that since the beginning of Man, man has been trying to track the stars to understand what is going on here on earth, right, like from agricultural needs to you know, practicing meditation where you can control your dreams and lucid dreaming or astro projection. And if these portals are there and they are able to help

people cross over easier, that that's a good thing. But I think we went away from that because we found psychedelics that also helped with that, and that ows up opens up a whole nother realm, right, if you agree?

all around you. You gotta be zen okay, and uh and so yeah, it's all it's I mean, I'm I don't have a lot of experience with that personally, Okay, so but I do know.

disclosures talking about psionics? Right, And they've got like remote viewers like myself that are out there, like I mean, they can control spacecraft with their minds, right, and things to that nature. Well, when I was I was probably probably about thirteen years ago or more, I was up in North Carolina with my friend Chief David, up in near Cherokee, and he took us up to this mountaintop

near Cashers, North Carolina. And I don't know if you guys are familiar with the sky ships over Cashers, these UFOs that are have been seen there for decades, right, And and we went camping at the top of this mountain. Not only did we have like s walker activity, we had bigfoot activity.

the sky ships? And I was like, hey, yeah, And he pulled out his staff that had like a crystal on it and he started chanting. I don't know what he was doing, but sure enough, we had four sky ships that came and hovered over us all night when he did that. So there is some sort of and I'm not saying those sky ships were made out of my celium and stuff, but they were. It's almost like they were living craft. Okay, And and I do think that they they're out there. They're definitely out there, but.

It's weird, right, there's technology. It's like alien technology that's able to do that, and they've been doing it for probably centuries, probably for millions of beers for all you know.

research on that. I don't know how it works.

we got those. We have dog headed men. We have Well, there's these things called I call them monopods or like humans that are just like have like their bodies are like mermaids, but they're they're a big foot at the bottom. I know it's weird, but you can find these things on these maps. Uh, even dragons, okay, dragons.

what I was looking at. Leaving the Alabama forest late, late late, when night was like twelve thirty one o'clock in the morning, I was by myself, and I was in an area where a hunter had been found dead with his arm ripped off in his leg pulled up behind the back of his body, with his foot up here behind his head. And the property where I was passing where I saw these two creatures which looked like a mix between African dogs, bear and cougar. That's how I I can the only way I can describe it,

crouched down in the grass looking at it. It was weird. But the man who lives on that of property right there has had a couple of dog men that he'd been seeing out there, so I'm assuming I saw dog men when I was leaving late that night. But but I I have too many reports, y'all. I have chased too many things. I've seen too many things in my own eyes that aren't supposed to exist. There's no way, I mean, I believe Now, Are they are dog men here? Yes? Do I believe dogmen?

think they're dog men. The county that I just moved from, the county I grew up in, they're known for their were wolves. They're they're they're North Northern High School in the north part of county are called the the Wolves, the wolf Pack, okay, but but for decades there have been wolf wolfs, wolf man, I guess I call them wolf man. Uh, dog men, yeah, dog men and uh

wolfman's hidings. Uh. There's actually just north of where I live now, up in Rome, Georgia, there was an attack on a family, entire family recently in the past few years of a whole family that got attacked by a were wolf. Up there is like a nine foot tall were wolf and and that is a very well known case. Actually at of North Georgia, Dalton, Georgia, Rome, Floyd County, lots of lots of dog man and werewolf sightings up there, and Paulding as well. That's where those where the were

wolves are up there. I've done I've done shows on all of them. By the way, they're all on my CHND. They also see them well.

of stay in that hybrid state. So there does seem to be some variances there, just like we see with bigfoot. You know, here in Florida we have the skunk Gate and then they're going to be a little bit different from what you might see in North Georgia Tennessee area. So I think that there's a differences with these creatures too, that we have yet to scratch this surface on understanding.

our own accents. I get made fun of a lot because I'm from Georgia and I got sometimes I get a thick accent.

do you let me tell you what it's about. It's pretty good, okay, Okay, So this is back in the late eighteen hundreds. She was down in where she Okay, there's an area that I researched is called the troop Herd Corridor. It's known for mass alien abductions, a lot of high strangeness. We have dog man reports. I go down there all the time, dog man sightings and reports

a lot of missing people. You know. My big thing are like I talk about the missing person's clusters in our national parks correlates some of those maybe to the portal incident and maybe people going missing walking in portals and stuff, and maybe cryptids. But I think it's I think it's our government and stuff too, kidnapping people. But anyways,

that's another rabbit hole. But anyways, the Troop Herd Quarter, there's a place I think she's buried in Talbot County, Uh, Pike County, Talbot somewhere in that troop Herd Corridoray there and Troop Herd or counties by the way, and it goes through Middle Georgia and it goes into Alabama and uh there's you know, army bases down there. Here's the thing. Dog Men and bigfoot, a lot of cryptids are often

spotted near military installments and around Indian burial mounts cemeteries. Okay, those are some of the hot spots if you want to if you want to see a dog man a bigfoot, go around a military base like Fort what is it, Fort Bennings down there in Columbus. Fort Stewart's down on the other side of the Hinesville. I went to school at Georgia Southern, so I was down there.

and so she I guess when Emily came home. I don't know if she was home for good or for the summer or what. They said that Emily was acting different. She was sleeping all day, and she was up all night. She had hair growing where it shouldn't have been growing. She wasn't the prettiest, is what people say. I feel really bad for Emily. By the way, What's up Drewskie, And and so I had to feel kind of bad for Emily because she got she kind of got the short end of the stick when it came to looks

and stuff like that. But when she came home and she was staying up all night and then sleeping all day, the neighbors started complaining that their livestock was ending up dead and the blood and it wasn't like it was being dragged off by like a predator. It was the blood was being drained out of the animals, like the cows,

the goats, and the mother started getting suspicious. Her mother was like, I think it could be my daughter, okay, And the men would, like the guys on the farm would get together and to go have hunting parties, and they were out at night trying to stalk to find out what was killing all their livestock. And the mother was so suspicious that it might be her daughter that she joined the hunting party and she took her gun out there and she said, she said that I guess

they didn't find anything. Okay, they couldn't. When they were out there, the livestock was fine. The mother was walking home on the last hunt that she went out there with them on. She was walking home and a wolf what she had described as a wolf, jumped out at her from a bush and she shot it. Well, when she shot it, it whimpered and ran off, and she was all discombobulated. Well, she got home, she was by herself.

She got home. She got in her front porch and Emily Isabella Bert was standing there with a gunshot wound to her hand, and so the mother took her to the doctor. He diagnosed her with lycanthropy, and he helped her wound on her hand, but she ended up I think they probably kept that a secret for a while, but she was known as Georgia's werewolf after that. I don't know exactly what all happened. I know that she ended up staying on that property where her mother, you know,

where her family lived until she died. She's buried there. Her tombstone says something really odd, something about like something about like now that she's passed on, she's in her true form finally, that is what he says. Yeah, weird stuff, y'all.

a pale crawler in his driveway. Okay, so I have seen plenty of videos of them with first hand eyewitness encounters. About two years ago, a year and a half ago, I was with Drewskie who's in your chat right now, drewski and I and several guys with Cryptid I guess

at CW Operations and Survival. Now, okay, we all went up to Farri's house up in North Tennessee and we got called up there because her chickens were going missing and something was stealing her pet There were her pets, and they just moved into this log it's like a log house or something like on the side of a mountain sight unseen. They just moved in, didn't really go and check it out before they bought it or started

renting or whatever they did. And it turns out there was a cave entrance about thirty feet from their back door, huge cave entrance. Well, unbeknownst to them, it's actually the Walker Cave. I'm not going to say the word, it was the s Walker Cave. It was on chopped tawl in and she was getting these figures in her cameras that were outside her house, like potential dog men, maybe

bigfoot things like that. There's even a big footprint by her chicken coop after one of the chickens had gone missing again, so she was pretty upset, like the chickens had been taken into the cave. There were feathers going into the cave. After the last chicken was taken. She kind of had reached her limit. She was like, all right, there's this creepy cave back here. She was not comfortable, but even going in that cave, I think she said

she was hearing voices and stuff in it. She would set up recorders outside the cave and like pick up voices and things like that. So she called us up there to, I don't know, maybe just investigate, try to figure out where her chickens were going. And we went on a full investigation into the caves. I'm not a fan of caves. By the way we got up there.

I thought it was really odd though, too, because we were expecting to see you know, I'm a tracker, I've been doing tracking for for a long time, and I was expecting when I got there to go up to that cave entrance, go into the cave and like the floor is muddy. I was sure we were going to find footprints and some sign of some whatever took her chickens. But we got in there and there were no tracks,

no footprints, no nothing. So whatever was taking her chickens was scaling the walls, okay, and which is kind of creepy, right, but but it was going into that cave, and uh and the guys, Drew Ski and some other guys, they were a little more adventurous than me when it came

to getting way back in that cave. It was really deep and we had found out that story behind that cave was that there was an issue with a bunch of s walkers, if you'll know what I'm talking about, and a chalk Tass shaman Native American shaman medicine me had banished all of the s walkers into that cave and sealed it spiritually energetically. And that was in Farres' backyard,

right by her chicken coop. And and so the guys went back there, and at some point they got way back there, I think the rope ran out, if I'm not mistaken. Everybody had ropes tied around him and stuff. Drisk he did something he shouldn't have done. He whistled, O Ko, You're not supposed to whistle, not at night, not in Appellationians, not in a cave. And we liked to push our limits. We pushed the boundaries, and Drew

Ski whistled. And what they said was that it looked like a pell crawler peked his head around the back of you know, the cave in front of them. So I wasn't there for that. I was at the front of the cave. I was kind of like keeping watch to make sure, you know, everything was cool up the front because I wouldn't going way back. I wouldn't going back there for all that. But anyways, no, I have not personally seen one that I know of, But I

don't know. I've seen so much weird stuff there's no telling.

recommend any I don't recommend that y'all. The show far and all that kind of stuff. I do not recommend that at all. Don't. I'm going to tell y'all just probably don't do what you want. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't do stuff like that just because you don't know what you're opening. We're talking about portal. I talk about portals a lot, and it's one thing to open up a portal. We've had multiple portals that my team has encountered.

We had a portal that opened in our base camp late one night, and there were two entities that were crawling out of it, and the head of my team yelled something in another language. I don't know what he yelled, but the portal it closed like that. One of them got spit out and the other one got sucked back in it's a safe word. He was like, no, he said, I don't know what he said.

it a lot. I used to not really tell the whole story on that, okay, because it was too weird. And and I just say, oh, you know, it was just a bigfoot that yelled, or I can't what wasn't bigfoot? It was something else. We still don't know what this thing was, but it was. It was an entity and it was solid. But when it yelled, it sounded it sounded like what a bigfoot would sound like. I've heard

bigfoots yell and whoop and scream and all that. But it was this thing sounded like a female voice that turned into like an animal, to something that was mad to in pain, and it screamed. It had the lungs on it, I mean, and you could hear it screened, and it ran all behind our tents, all the way down to where the road was, and it was terrifying. And then all night that night it was really weird, y'all.

There's this phenomenon that happens when we're out in the woods and when things start getting weird and we're at our base camp. You'd think that we'd stay up and we'd get out of our you know, thermals and our night vision and we'd stay up. We all go to sleep. It's almost like there's something that comes over us and we're all just like, oh, it's a good idea just to go to bed at like eleven o'clock at night when we drove all the way out here to go bigfooting, but.

national parks and stuff. You know, I'd like to know what's out there and uh, and to think that there's like portals opening and people are not closing them down.

I actually have a friend of mine who I had not met her in person before, but she was working, uh, mapping out lay lines and stuff and that was like part of her job, okay, like contracting. I don't know if she worked with the government or what. I don't know.

I don't know nothing about nothing, but she was plotting out lay lines, and so she was kind of like contacting me to be like, well, hey, you know, you don't have to tell me like where you do your your cryptid research, but I'm trying to line up, like figure out where these lay lines are going and help you know, I'm connecting these mounds and places of high strangeness.

So I ended up talking with her and doing some work with her on that, and so that she's plotting out some like official lay lines, but they're all connected to those mounds. So yes, I love mounts.

how deep down the rabbit hole you guys go. I'm sure it's pretty deep. Okay, But we don't know the true history of this land. Okay, that's my opinion. We don't. And there's a whole lot of a lot of history that's been hidden from us and stuff. But I think that if you follow those lay lines, you're gonna find the true history and you start start digging, okay, and find out what's really down there. And just followed the lay lines, Yeah, we.

little people. It looks like it looks say ET's actually, but I think they're little people, maybe moon eyed people or ets, just tiny a little bit like walking in single file lines and stuff.

a new documentary out on it. And he came on my show and was telling me all the crazy stuff that happens up there, and I was just blown away by, you know, the things he was sharing that happened, and it wasn't on my radar, but it keeps popping up.

wild man, right, and they had actually institutionalized her. And this woman came out coroborating her story, saying that there was this all black, malevolent sasquatch who did was the one who essayed this poor woman and she remained institutionalized for the rest of her life after that.

They say that he's buried there somewhere on those grounds up there today.

called it. What was it called there? I forgot what they called there was the enchanted forest.

of problems. We go out there to investigate, okay, and uh and that's all, and to see see what's going on out there and stuff like that. I don't do a whole lot of investigations these days. I'm kind of, you know, kind of busy doing my my chasing dog men with Rouski now and all them. So, but but my guys, do you know that they still go out

and investigate. Actually, if you go to like the BFR websites BFRO websites, a lot of those reports, especially the ones in Georgia, were taken by my teammates, guys around my team. There are none of them are any longer part of BFRO okay, but they used to be a long time ago, and some of the some of the in my opinion, some of the cooler reports were taken. I was reading them and I'm like, oh, that's my teammate,

you know that took that. So yeah, but yeah, we try to keep our things private as much, especially when it comes to families and people. You know, people like the privacy. Yeah, for sure, I.

looks like a structure. Maybe that's something was put together by someone.

when you're doing survivalist training. And so whenever you see like the tps and stuff like that, a lot of times those are those are human debris huts. Okay, huts I don't and it's fine. People people kind of quit sending me pictures at this point because I'm like, that's a doub brie hut. Okay. But there are also things that you can't explain. And there are a lot of bigfoot tree structures as well. So, yes, we have a

couple of places we go. A lot of times we have trees that have been bent down, like really tall trees that are bent and they're tied into what I call an asterisk, like a star what you're talking about. Yes, it's like they're tied with other limbs and trees and it's it's really tight. My friend David Pardu actually that I was just mentioning up in Uari. There's a we

got a picture of him with his tree twist. It's twisted like fifteen times a huge tree and it's just twisted and like maybe a piece of machinery could have done it, but a humane sure's head couldn't have done that. It's the most outrageous tree twist I've ever seen. And that was a uari. Actually, Uh, there's a lot. There's a lot of structures that are by bigfoot. I mean there's a when I was with Harley actually we're up

in East Tennessee a couple of months ago. Uh, there's trees up and like turned sideways on top of other trees, like, look, you've been placed there. Now. Of course it could be weather, could be the floods, could be tornadoes. It just depends. It just depends.

Well you know, I really have done a lot of practicing and like telepathy and you know, just tuning into my psychic abilities and like even things like spirit tracking and stuff like that, you know, stuff that like everything has been replaced by something I want to say, faults or like what do you call it. It's like non organic, you know, like our telepathy is no longer needed because we have telephones now, right, telephones is for place our

telepathy things like that. Bigfoots don't have all that stuff. They don't have all this technology. They're still in tune. They're still attuned to all the natural things around them and all the natural things that their bodies can be used for and their abilities. You know, so they are highly I got to say, they're very much more advanced in some ways than us humans even are. But also

they're all different when it comes to bigfoots. There's bigfoots that are primate like that are always out looking for food and that's all they can think about. They're just animalistic. There's some that are highly advanced that are you know, more so than humans. Okay, so there's a whole wide range of sasquatch bigfoots. Yeah, different accents and all that and everything.

North Georgia and Mount Airy. I'll be there, and then I'll be at the Super Soldier Activation Conference in Orlando, Florida in October, and then I'll be at the Molina Bigfoot festival in Middle Georgia that is coming up in November. So those are my three events I can remember, but I'll be it. But it's all on my website. So thank you all again for having me tonight. It's been really fun.

East to mine copper from Lake Michigan. And I think that Phoenicians and Noan's and a couple other groups were coming over here to do this copper mining. But I just think that that area I'm bringing us up because it's such a rich area. It was such a dense history. And in fact, there's a town up there on the Queenaw Peninsula called Copper Harbor, and I just see that name as tracing back to an earlier age.

to be like the protector of the copper. So in a weird way, like it seems like folklore usually ends up reflecting whatever's happening in that region. So considering people are coming over and stealing the copper, essentially mining the copper, it would make sense they end up having this water

panther deity that they saw that protected the copper. And then in turn, I mean passing those stories along, everybody is a little bit more like, oh, we know what could possibly be out here because they're not familiar with

the territory. So starting up some folklore just to keep people away, like you, kind brings in a new perspective to the water panther concept when you kind of look at it from that possible viewpoint that it's created to protect the area, and you know, it's kind of side tangent with it protects the copper, but like bringing a whole other facet into it.

Great Lakes area. It has to do with cults and sea monsters or lake monsters, I should say, and pointing back to the story you just told, there are petrock glyphs and rock carvings of the sea monsters that the Native Americans etched, and it does have there's a spiritual element to the lore where there's one story where there was a big storm on one of the lakes and some of these Native Americans were caught out there on

the storm and one of these sea monsters. Because they they were in touch with the spiritual and sacred aspect of this creature, they were able to follow it to shore safely in the middle of the storm. So there there's just like, like what you're saying is like a multifaceted sacred component to a lot of these cryptids, and I just really see it really shining in that area of Michigan in the Great Lakes. And uh, there was

another one. I'm just gonna throw this in because we're talking about cryptids, but there was another one that I came across. I think this is a Northern Michigan cryptid. It's called maymey Guashi. It's sometimes called the Michigan Merman.

Merman child on what's called Pie Island. And when you look closely at the details, it may have been less of a murhman or merbying and more of like a wet monkey like Bigfoot like child, because when you get into the details of that account, they were talking about it having hair, it was hairy, and it maybe just looked amphibious at a distance because it was so wet. But I looked into it and right next to that Pie Island is an island called Isle Royal and it

has a place called Windigo National Park. So it's like cryptid, you know, heaven up there. It's crazy.

bottom the one side and then over on Michigan. But the spot that it touches over in Michigan is one of the top like per capita UFO abduction areas, like it's supposed to be like the third leading place, like at least back in the seventies that like I think it was some ridiculous number like two and five would say that they've had like an abduction experience in this area, and that's where like part of the Lake Michigan triangle

phenomenon started. I feel it was like with that center point, because usually people kind of create these triangles from big events and then they start realizing that everything kind of falls within the center of that, and even falling in the center of that man on the other side, it still kind of touches the lake. Is like Chicago and stuff like that, kind of touching into the part of

the triangle. And everybody knows the whole thing with Chicago with all these like flying humanoids and everything, all the UFO sidings and everything that are near the O'Hare airport, so that still kind of comes full circle into that with Bray Road and everything, and then going a little bit north. I know that this is becoming a little bit more popularized. There's not a lot of research really done on it yet because it's a hard spot to get to. But you have basically the like Lake Michigan

like Stonehenge is the best way to describe it. Yeah, it's like a little bit off into the water, but it's completely like in the water. So that's where somebody discovered it. I believe within the last like five ten years, and they haven't really been able to get down there enough to really do much research with it, but they know that there's this other Metholithic structure that exists there.

And it also again kind of falls into the phenomenon of the Lake Michigan Triangle, which again, like you start diving into those things and a lot of people kind of theorize that they could potentially be portals, ways to open differ or gates different things. So is it like, is the reason why the Lake Michigan Triangle is active

is because of that being there? Or is it possible that that's there because it's an active area and it would like enhance it possibly like something kind of weird to think about, But there's so much weird stuff going on in Lake Michigan, and we haven't even talked about like Lake Superior, that's like a whole other monstrall on its own, and that's where the water panther is. And I mean on top of that, you have one of the deepest, coldest, uh freshwater lakes I believe, on the planet.

And the whole thing with that is that there's so many ghost stories that go to it because when the water is that cold, and it stays that cold year round because it's so deep, Like nothing ends up floating back up, So everything that sinks just stays sunk. And like the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald was one that you know a lot of people know that Gordon Whitefootz song and all that. Like the reason why it wasn't found until years later was because it happened in Lake Superior.

Completely sank down, no bodies were found, No bodies or anything floated up from it. So knowing that about Lake Lake Superior or too, it kind of feels like it might play a tie in with the whole monster lake monster folklore that you know, there's two sides of it, you know, I definitely think there's a possibility that people

were seeing things out there. But on the other side of it, there's got to be a good portion of it that was created off the fact that when nothing floats up, you know, what are these people going to assume that more than likely something ate it. So, I mean that could be a good portion of where some

of these lake monsters stories come from. It's just the fact that things don't float up, and they were trying to rationally explain it in a time where they didn't have the same science that we do today to know that, you know, it's too cold for anything to float back up.

is something. It's a frontier that we haven't tapped yet. And I think Michigan, if I'm correct, has like three to four possibly more lake monster you know lake monsters essentially with names and everything that multiple people have seen. And what's interesting with the Michigan side of this is that there's some of these lake monsters were once known to be horned serpents and they were called great horned serpents.

And I just think that's wild that not only do you have a serpentine dragging like lake monster, but it also has horns that seems like it goes back to an earlier era as well, you know, with dragon lorens and such.

because you know, the Native American perspective on stuff. But I mean, that's something that you see throughout multiple cultures, especially Cherokees, and these giant snakes being in the Americas and everything like that. But I'm trying to catch my train at thought. I had another really good point. I was gonna make what was the last part of what you were saying here?

of Michigan. And I came across this healer from Estonia who moved here to the States in the late eighteen hundreds, and he was this famous actor in Dresden and Berlin, but something attracted him to Michigan and to an island specifically out on Lake Michigan. So he comes out and he relocates himself to this island in Michigan, and it's this ancient place where there was something tangibly sacred going

on that drew him in. It's absolutely crazy. So there's I think, with all these legends and the Lord, you have something. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.

never ended up coming back to it. But there's like this weird underlying like a cult history within specifically like the Detroit area, and like I'm sure you've probably heard about it, but like the Nine Rouge, which is like this little like red demon looking imp that supposedly has

sightings near Detroit. You start diving into that and it's like it's almost like one of those weird things where you don't quite know where to go with it because you hear the depiction of it and you associate it with like maybe something that's like more on the demonic side, which would explain why there's so much like a cult stuff that happens in Detroit. Is maybe there's a link

to that. But on the other side of it, like Detroit, like the area was founded by I don't remember his first name, but his last name was Cadillac, which is why you know the car company Cadillac came to be. But there's like this whole thing where he supposedly had seen this thing too, Like there's generations and generations of people seeing this nine rouge, and it usually a scene right before like a tragic or like really really bad event ends up happening, like we had really really bad

racial riots back in the day. And supposedly like that thing was seen by like groups of people right before all this stuff started. Actually a different Cadillac, but the guy who owned the Cadillac car company right before he had like a big downfall with this company, he claims that he had seen this thing, and he also claimed that he saw it before he ended up going on

to his like deathbad. So again, like they all describe it as like this little, like if looking thing, and it's like, is it something that's occult related or on the other side, I mean, because the occult and paganism seem to kind of have this like side tangent with each other that it's just like a different viewpoint and

faction of it. Because you know, most people associate paganism and occultism as like the full on same thing, but at least like when I talk to people, they're definitely in the same van I'm not gonna deny that, but it seems like most pagans are a bit more natural like Earth Base, where the occult stuff is obviously like the dark stuff that people start getting into, like you know, methods of how to control people, methods about how to

use like different types of dark magic and stuff. But the pagan stuff seems to be a little bit more like nature based, so like the pagan viewpoint of that, Like, is it possible that this nine Rouge might actually be some form of like a like a forest spirit or something like that, or like something that was a little bit more along the lines of like pan or.

being might be. But I mean, they're supposedly these festivals were people dress up and like go around doing it in Detroit, but anybody it's not familiar with Detroit, like it sounds good in practice, it sounds fun, It sounds like something you want to go do if you're into cryptids, but being from Detroit, like not my scene. Like Detroit isn't the safest place in the world where you just want to be like walking around having fun in like a costume and stuff like that.

and mannerisms that we see with slender Man. And it's like, well, did that whatever that is, that entity did it somehow managed to find its way into into our technology and come through and manifest that way. But you know, going back to this pagan occult stuff within the cities, that's really fascinating stuff. And I came across a love crafty and cult that was based out of Chicago, and what they were doing was they were driving out into more

remote areas. They were even going as far as Wisconsin, and they were going to lakes to do rituals. So that opened up this whole door for me into this world of lakes and essentially witchcraft because they were harnessing the power of the water. It's something to do with the water. I think, like a lot of the the like this conversation that we've had so far today, there's one of the key components is there's large bodies of water nearby and something.

So I mean getting into the whole concept of like portals, vibration, frequency, Like clearly there's something to it, and we're starting to prove that even in like mainstream signs that they're everything that you see, everything you experience, it all breaks down to like vibration and frequency. So if you're trying to open up portals, you're trying to open up riffs water itself, you can play a vibration on it, a frequency on it,

and it'll ripple and it'll create these patterns. So I'm wondering if that plays a factor that it's more so that you could potentially do it anywhere, but it's enhanced in places of water because of the fact that the medium you can make it essentially like create shapes and

patterns from projecting vibration and frequencies on it. So in turn, it might like amplify the abilities of these portal locations where maybe rather than just hearing voices on the other side of it, or hearing like you know, ominous disembodied beings on the other side of it, rather it creates like a medium that these things might potentially be able

to pass through. And then when you start diving into that, man, like a lot of the UFO stuff, Man, everybody's claiming these things are coming from the water, and everybody's trying to say that they're terrestrial and they're not extraterrestrial, like to side of that, I mean, it's definitely something I take into consideration that at least from the appearance of these things, you know, they could definitely be some type

of underground dwelling being. But if you're looking at it from that perspective, like maybe they are coming from somewhere else and they're again just using the water as a medium.

And if you were to take a shovel at a random spot in your yard and just dig up a piece of the earth, you're going to see more life that you didn't know was there. It's just and like a lot of times when I'm in my backyard in the summertime, I usually see an insect or something that

I had no idea existed. So what if the supernatural realm is the same way, And what if we have these entities like that people are talking about during their DMT experiences, like these dimensional types, And then what if we have a faction of cryptids I guess, I don't know what, a faction of aliens, what we would call aliens, some sort of other rice living in the ocean as well.

or some form of like appendage or something, so that you can interact properly with the environment. So at least maybe that would work a little bit differently on other planets where like the atmosphere is different, like there may be not even necessarily carbon based, but at least on this planet, the way that we've adapted to be this

apex predator of the planet. If there are other things that could potentially get to that point, my assumption would be that they would eventually adapt to a point where they would essentially be this humanoid type form, because that would be the end all, be all best form in order to navigate on this planet. So if you consider the fact of like different things possibly fitting into different niches, you know, there's the humans of the land, which would essentially,

you know, that's what we would be, Like. I don't see it as completely unplausible that there would also be a mutation that would adapt to be the the humanoid version for the sea, and then the humanoid version for the forest or the mountains, because we are not existing in that niche, which could be where like the sasquatch, and it fits in and at least for that one, you talk to a lot of like natives and stuff like that, and they basically will describe it as not

so much as like an animal, not so much as like some type of interdimensional type being, but rather that they're like the apex of what we're intended to be if we would have lived by like the rules of nature. So if you're viewing it from that point, that there may have been this diverging point where different things went

in different directions and continue to adapt differently. I mean, that could one explain the mermaid phenomenon that people experience, because there would have been a section of it that would have eventually went to the water, just like how this little tiny rat looking creature ended up turning into a whale. It's because it went to the water and it was able to expand and it adapted to fit

into that niche. And then you have again the ones that stayed in the forest up in the mountains, and that's where you get the you know Sasquatch, Yeti, Yawi, any of the different names Alda Massi in Russia if you want to call it that. And then on the other side of it too, this is where the other niche kind of comes in. The whole great concept that you know, you had like the natives that would described like the moon eyed people, and they were described as

these things that had these giant black eyes. They wouldn't necessarily not necessarily black, but these giant eyes that they adapted.

cave for a really long time. Either one they'll end up developing larger eyes where they can take in more light and they can sense things around them, or on the other end, they'll develop further into their other senses completely lose the eyes in general. So it seems like there would also be a niche for something eventually going on underground. So it's like, is the gray concept that does that fall in with the moon eyed people thing?

Does that fall in with all these weird cave dwelling type creatures that people see and describe that all seem to have this like gray tone with like giant black eyes. Like I feel like there's these multiple niches where you're gonna need that end all be all apex predator and if there's a sense of intelligence to them, you know, they're gonna avoid the other ones. And we just might be the ignorant ones because we think that we rule

all the land. But that's because these other things that could easily like basically like turn on us and eventually get to a point where they could probably take us out. Like we're completely oblivious to them and for time like they don't exist, But like is that the Definitely.

And then you also have a very more like ancient scripture folklore type of a perspective that I find very interesting from the Book of Enoch, where there's a translation there where it seems like there was some sort of a cosmic struggle and between all these different entities, and some of them fell to Earth, and wherever they landed, they became a a cryptid, an enhanced cryptid, geared towards that specific region. So if they landed in water, they

became mermaids. If they landed on in the forest, maybe they became a fairy or woodland spirit or or a protector of the woods like Bigfoot. So there's there's I think it's a I'm I like that there's a mystery to this. I like to you know, we're throwing out ideas, and they're all very interesting ideas. But end of the day, the fact that this is a just a giant mystery that we can kind of chase after, there's something to

be said about that. There's gold in the mysteries. And and I think that these cryptid stories, and we've talked about a lot of cryptids so far, uh, they speak to the mystery of this planet. And and there are so many accounts of people seeing these not and not everybody's lying, So it just blows me away sometimes how how weird and magical this place really is. And I know that you have a story too, I'm excited to get into that. But uh, and it was in Michigan.

So what about where did you where? Because I don't know where did you grow up in Michigan? Did you say it was southern?

other can of worms. But I also have another can of worms I can open as far as like my explanation as to where I've kind of come as far as researching after like my main experience that kind of pushed me into where I am now with podcasting and researching and doing all this stuff. I do because you have like these weird events and then you just have

that one that's like the turning point. Then after that, it's like you put so much time and effort into researching that, and then it just branches into the other things and then next thing you know, you're running a podcast.

of manipulating whatever the original folklore was, and that definitely seems to be what happened with the whole Windigo concept, especially after like putting a ridiculous amount of research into it.

it's like, is that really what I saw? Or you get to a point where it's like you just get established with this is what I experienced at least, so then you end up unintentionally creating this like bias over the experience, and it just sucks that the farther away from it you get it's the less of a grasp. You really feel like you had on even understanding it in the first place.

I think that maybe it's been misinterpreted. I may maybe these images that come to mind of this big, you know, daunting, antler to thing, maybe that's not what this is, because I I think it comes from alguankin h folklore, from Native American folklore, and from the cases I've studied, it seems like which there are hundreds of documented cases of this where people killed other people because they said they were taken over by this, so it was almost like a spirit.

But the natives did not describe it that way, and when it goes one of those things, it's kind of like sasquatch that depending on the tribe, there's the same being that's described, but it has different names. Like there's the Wachugay, there's another example for it. Like it's something that's seen mixed throughout it, Like it's not just specific to like one Native American culture, mainly stuff more towards the north. But I'll kind of get into like more

of the explanation with that as we keep going. But so the image of the Windygo is not how the Native Americans would have described it. They described it as this tall, lanky, almost zombie like creature that would be so so have such a thirst and hunger that it would eventually end up like eating its lips off. And so basically it's described as this like tall, lanky, zombie

like creature. So the whole idea of the Windygo as people describe it now, I think, was one of those things where it was the same as like what the settlers did as they came across renaming these Native American like sacred grounds where you know, they would say like this is whatever this location is, and they go, okay, well it's pagan.

they believe is evil looking on it. So diving into again the people that were coming over here were like the Christians and you know, all the different people that were more so in that faith based and not pagan religion based, so they would demonize these things and again call things like the devil's tea kettle, and just give it this this dark connotation to it that kind of

is influenced by paganism. So as they were talking about this essentially demon like creature, they started adding their flair onto it, which got into you know, it has a skull head and now it has this antler head, now it has this, and it started kind of taking on like the pagan viewpoint behind it, and the story ended up getting mixed to a point where we got to a point where it's like, does this thing even exist?

People haven't seen sightings of it. There are some people that claim to see these things that are seen like this, but I honestly think that's something else that's just taking the image of something that you are already know, because

there's this whole other faction the phenomenon. Because when I had my experience, I started researching into what this thing was because what I saw was tall and lanky, and again I'll get back into that story in a little bit, but it was I'd always fall back into either one the rake or the pale Crawler, and it seemed like that was a more newer that was a more new age thing that when the Windigo things started dropping off, all of a sudden, people started reporting these things, and

the wind to Go stopped getting reported like that. So I think it was one of those things that once the folklore got mixed enough, people separated it, and then they started seeing this being that was just already had a name, was already described, and they had to give it a new name because it didn't fit into the viewpoint that that eventually turned into. So people started calling

it stuff like the rake or the pill crawler. And I even think there's two sides even within that phenomenon that there's the wind to go side to it, and then there's this other thing that I was talking about a little bit earlier in the show about this niche of the these things living underground, and there's two sides of the phenomenon where people will see these things near like cave entrances, and they'll also see them near like snowy wooded areas, which kind of goes more into like

the whole like windygo idea of things. But I think that what people are calling pale crawlers and rakes are actually Windygoes, but they didn't know the name, so he created this new name on top of it. And then as that name continued on, it started also getting mixed in with cave dweller sightings, So then pale crawler wind to go rake, like it's all consisting of essentially the

same thing, and it's just miscommunication within the culture. It's like playing telephones, which you see when you start really diving into these like ancient these like folklore creatures, is that there's like this blending of you know, people that are seeing these black dogs in like West Virginia. They

were people that were coming from like England. There are people that are coming from Germany and they already had these like Huntsman dog stories and these other black dog stories, and all of a sudden, these things are following them there, and it's like, are these things actually following them there?

Definitely possibility. I'm not going to deny the paranormal and stuff, but you know, you have this combination where like folklore starts getting blended between cultures and then it gets so ascrewed from like what it originally was that now there's this thing that was what people were seeing and they start calling it something different because the folklore gets too out there and blended because too many people are playing

telephone with it. And yeah, I definitely think that that's what ended up happening with the Windigo, And like just to get into some more explanation of these things and why I said there, usually it's they're seen across cultures, but generally stuff more towards the north. The whole thing with the Wind to Go was that it was rotting flesh, like you would end up becoming a wind to go because you resorted to cannibalism during the winter, or for

example with the wachew gay. The thing with the witchew gay was that it was when you had too much pride, if you started thinking that you were better than everybody else,

then you would eventually turn into this monster. And with the Native American stories, it's like, do you take it literally or is it supposed to be metaphorical for something that one you got to survive the winter, And maybe it was another description of what they were trying to describe as far as like you know, when people start eating human flesh, like you start going crazy, Like you're not supposed to eat your own species, because you even see that with other species when you feed them the

same species. But like trying to describe something symbolically through a story, but on the other side, again it's like I had a weird sighting, Like we also reblending that stuff in with them trying to tell stories or was it a double faceted thing that they were like, we're seeing this weird creature, but we're also going to add this layer of a story to it to also warn people against something that they need to be aware of.

are these long, dark, cold winters. You know, this phenomenon comes out of Canada from what I can tell, and it's just waked colder up there, and the winters are way more extreme. And these people didn't have houses like we have today. They didn't have heat. They were they were out in the woods, many of them. And you know, you're cooped up and you're surrounded by winter. Everything's dead around you. So and if you run out of food, that's going to create a problem for you and everybody

around you, especially if you have a family. And like in the case of like swift Runner, it's a famous it's attributed to a wind to go, but he was this Native American creed trapper guy in Alberta, Canada who in the eighteen hundreds killed and started eating his family while he was supposedly possessed by this demonic windigo spirit.

get to it. But there's a lot of weird stuff to that that there was literally like an outpost station like within viable distance from where he was, even though these act still ended up happening.

there's something dark to this. There's something more than just going crazy out in the woods. Because it's winter time there du seem to be influenced from some other, darker, more ancient type of an intelligence.

So everybody who's dived into like the Ancient America stuff, it's like, the more research you do on it, it's almost like these giant skeletons are you can't overlook them anymore, Like they're there. It's one of those things that I don't even question, Like there's so much to it and there's so much backing to it that it's clearly this

cover up of history for whatever reason. I mean, I don't know if it's some grand conspiracy or rather just not wanting to change the history books, because these bigger beings were existing here, but like the natives described them, like everybody described these things. So we kind of came to the conclusion of you have a bigger body or a bigger species, you're obviously going to need to ingest more to sustain yourself. So they usually describe these windygo

beings as being bigger like. They usually don't describe them typically as like human size, which is where like the

tall lankiness kind of comes in. So you know, if you're viewing it from that perspective, that these things could have been the giants that were starving and they basically would go crazy and would just eat anything that they could possibly find as food definitely a possibility, and bring in an extra step farther which gets a little bit less into the more like tangible provable stuff currently you get into all the nephilim theories that people have kind

of thrown in that these things were like you know, essentially they ended up turning into disembodied beings which would have inevitably turned into like kind of like what we describe as like demons now, So like the Windgo spirit, something being possessed by the Windygo spirit could have been.

Jack Fiddler is what I was thinking about. He's this Native American win to Go Hunter, and just the fact that there's a wind to Go Hunter who it kind of leads, lends some credence to this. He's up in the boreal forests, and you know which is this? You know, very ancient sacred strip of forestry that that encircles the top of the globe, spans the top of the earth.

But he claimed to have defeated fourteen windigoes in his lifetime because and some of them, he said, were sent by enemy shaman so and some were like members of his own village who were who were said to be taken over, like visibly taken over, and and like on at the drop of a hat, they went crazy, and they started trying to eat like human flesh, and and filler was was caught up in the in the mix

of this war. It seemed like with these ancient spirits, and I don't know that just to me says that maybe there's more to this than just like mental illness gone awry, right, he.

and then there's this other spiritual component. And I'm very logically thinking, like I dive into all of these weird topics, but I'll make some outrageous claims, but I'll like do this step by step of the information that I've had that gets me to that point, because I have to get to these ridiculous points sounding to people after first having a step by step that scientifically like makes sense to me, so like diving into like my experience.

like mapped out. It was like a campus. It wasn't just one building, so there was like the main hospital, there was like dormitories for boys girls like this school

and everything that was on there. And we would definitely, you know, we got pictures of orbs and everything like that, Like I mean, definitely could be dust, but still kind of interesting all the same that there may have been this like spiritual component to it, because a lot of people talked about this place as it was haunted, but we never really had any like crazy experiences like haunting wise, so I didn't really put much back into that component of it, but rather that it was just kind of

like an old building. But the only kind of paranormal experience we really had was we were on a floor that had none of the windows broken out, and this random blue door with a giant smiley face on it slam shut. And you can hear people running around in a building that's abandoned, like everything's silent, so if anybody was messing with us, we would have heard it because the door. Second the door slam, we all froze, and

we're listening for anything that made noise. And right after I opened the door and I left it just to see if it would slam shut again somehow from like a breeze or something like that. It never did. So that was the only like weird paranormal thing like that, but kind of building into this like mad experience I ended up having at this place. This may tie in with it. I always tell it as part of this because I don't know if it does. But I guess if I mentioned this part to the right person, maybe

it will end up connecting some dots. But being from Michigan, like at least southern Michigan, like we don't we don't have cougars, Like you don't see big cats or anything like that around here. So behind this place there was like this little little tiny area of like forests and trees, not anything big, maybe like a quarter mile nothing ridiculous

or nothing. But we're up on the third story of the building and we're looking down into like the courtyard where like the back goes into like the forest and everything, and we end up seeing this cougar that walks out of the out of the forest line and basically looks directly up at us, which seemed kind of weird for a cougar to like look up at us on the third floor, and then it just slank back into the forest or into like the wooded area. So I was like,

I just saw cougar. Did anybody else see that? And my girlfriend's friend that was with us was like, no, I definitely saw that too. That was a big cat. And that was the way that we had to like leave to go out. So we ended up doing this like two mile walk all the way around this area because we didn't want to take the chance of like going through those woods and you know, come and face

the face of this thing. But I ended up like looking up sightings and stuff, and there was Cooper sightings in Northfield just in that area, but nobody had ever found a body, nobody.

thing called the Northfield Tunnels. And actually Linda Godfrey wrote about it in her like Weird Michigan book, These like different murders at some point that had happened in these tunnels and everything. But they're like this tunnel system that completely connects under Northfield, like it goes way past the

hospital and everything else. And we hadn't really gone down there because it's completely pitch black and we didn't want to take a chance of like running out of batteries in our flashlights anything like that and basically having to scale the wall back for five miles if we just kept walking down in this area. So one day we decided, you know what, we're just gonna go in and just kind of look around to check it out. We're not gonna go too far in, We're just gonna see what's

going on down there. So at the main hospital, there's you go into like the basement and it leads into the tunnels because it was supposed to be a way to like easily be able to like transfer patients during like, you know, if there was some type of weather event happening something like that. So it was just access tunnels at that point where they could bring patients through them potentially if they needed to. So we knew that there was an entrance that would go into the tunnels from

down there. So it's me, my girlfriend, and one of her friends and we end up going down the stairs to go into the basement. And as we go down into the basement, there's this brick wall to the right side, and it wasn't a doorway like per se, but it looked like somebody had like removed the bricks, not like somebody kicked them out like somebody vandalizing the place, but at some point like somebody had professionally like remove these bricks to create like a little arch doorway right there, right.

So I'm like, oh, that looks interesting because normally we came in from the other side, so we hadn't come down the staircase before into this basement to peek around or anything. So I go down into that area because I'm coming down the stairs and this is to my right. So I turn and I go into that room where that doorway is. I take maybe a foot and a

half or so into that doorway. I have my flashlight facing forward, and I hear this disembodied voice in my right ear go row and as I hear run, I look forward and there's this metal like the hospital carts, like the little gurdy like metal hospital carts that sit in there. And this thing goes to stand up, and it was this tall, lanky, decrepit not human looking because it's fore arms, its arms like, its body wasn't shaped in proportion to like how a normal human body is shaped.

And it had this bluish gray like almost decaying looking colored skin, and it had this greasy, black, lanky hair on the top of its head. And I saw this thing go to stand up, and I just see the back of this thing, and as it's standing up, I see it starting to crouch up, and I start realizing that this thing doesn't have the normal shape of a person. Because at first, you know you're gonna be like, oh, it's a crackhead. You know, it's somebody that's homeless or

something down in the basement. But as soon as this thing stood up and I saw the way that it was shaped, it wasn't even like that insane moment of fear where you start seeing something that's not there, Like this thing was not shaped like a normal person. And I've never seen somebody with decaying looking skin color or this like falling out patchy, black, greasy hair, so I see that back. I don't even see this thing's face.

I take off up the stairs with the two with my girlfriend and her friend behind me, and they're like, well, what what, what's happening?

gonna freak out. So it was like the best scenario was to get everybody out of the building before I tell anybody what I had seen, So I knew the direct path to get out of this place. So I got them behind me were taken off. So with that, knowing that she they had no contacts, my girlfriend, she's a photographer, she ends up taking pictures behind us as we're running out. She's not stopping to take them, she's

just taking them behind us. So we end up getting back and I explained to her like what I had seen and everything, and we end up looking back through the pictures and I can send them to you actually after we finish the show. But we basically got a picture of the exact thing that I've seen. I saw, But the weird part about it was it looked like an apparition that in the picture it's transparent, like you

can see through it. And I have the completely original image, and then I have an image that we lightened up

just so you can see it better. But you can see the long black hair you can see the white skin on its face, like it was this weird thing where it was definitely something physical that I saw, but there was these like non physical attributes, like the voice in the side of my ear because there was nobody there because I looked to that side before I looked back at what was going on front me because I

caught movement with my eye. But it just didn't know like where to like go with that information like forever, because it was so just like out there. I didn't know what to even do with that information. Like even when I first started my show, like I didn't really tell anybody about this experience because it was just so out there that it was like I didn't want to become a podcaster and started making these like oh I have this crazy story. Yeah, the reason I got into

it was because I had this experience. But it wasn't until I started doing later shows that I started kind of bringing in more components to it. And like I said, with my research, I kept coming back to like Windigo even though it wasn't how it was visually described, And then I kind of came to my own conclusions and started kind of following this trail with the whole, like

bringing the paganism fact into everything. But as I started doing shows and I started kind of hinting at it, I had some other people bring up some other aspects that I had overlooked that I hadn't really thought about.

And part of the wind Togo legend is that you're not say, from the first snowfall to the last, so they're out when it is cold because assumably these things are like these king body flesh like they have to keep themselves like preserved, Like they're not seen during the summer because they be rotting in the human in the hot,

hot summer sun. So the other aspect of the folklore that people have theorized is that these things go underground during warmer months, or you know, they bury themselves under ground during warmer months, or they go into caves or something like that during warmer months. And this would have happened in I believe spring, and the weird part was connecting back into that folklore, which is why again I'm not saying this is definitely what it was, but it's

what my research has definitely pointed to. You know, the tunnels were like twenty thirty degrees colder than the surface and going into those tunnels, it just gets colder as you go in. So somebody pointed out, like it fits the lore of these things that during the warmer months they would be staying somewhere that is colder. So it like they wouldn't have left that area though, because it's like thirty degrees colder.

like take back over. So justin actually from Cript to the Corn a long time ago and mentioned the fact that like, you know, I have Cherokee, Like my grandma's one hundred percent Cherokee, I'm twenty five percent. So he kind of theorized of was that disembodied voice that you heard actually the human inside of this thing that was trying to warn you to get away from it before

it couldn't control itself anymore. And it basically warned you and talked to you, not necessarily because you're the first to walk in the room, but because you share the same ethnic blood. Is this thing that it didn't want to hurt you? Because on the other side of it. In Northville, there was two random deaths where somebody had like fallen down the elevator shafts at one point. And the weird part about it was, as many times as I had been there, like the elevator doors, there's no

power to this place, but they weren't wide open. They were like thin cracks, Like if anybody wanted to get in those, they would have had to force themselves in it. And like, I don't know why you would have done that at that point, So then you know these things were the people. Of course, you'd fall down and be seeing at the bottom of this thing, and the bottom enters out into the basement. So then I started questioning, like, are these random deaths maybe linked to whatever this thing

was that I saw? And then as I'm starting to connect all these dots, this is the last weird part of the story, they end up tearing down this building. So when it comes to weird stuff like this, I wonder if like cities are aware they hear the stories and either one they're just trying to stop the stories,

or two they know something's there. And it's that whole concept of like, you know, the town at night will get together to burn down the house of the monster, and then the next morning they're all.

their weakest. Of course, so that of course happens during winter and when people were in the middle of that dense winter, or they were very hungry and and sort of I don't know, depleted from lack of sunlight, and if they're venturing out for food, this thing will pounce, it'll it'll jump into them, often disguising itself as hunger. So you think you're just you think you're just going crazy out of hunger. But that's this emotional trick that this thing is playing on you see.

is the explanation of what this is. So if you have this dark being that's just whispering these things in your ear, especially like you were saying during these harsh months, it's a lot easier to influence these these people at that point. So it's like, if you have this like, for lack of better term, as much as I hate using this term for things, but like demon whispering in your ear, all once you're like, oh, yeah, you know, your kid is being real irritating, like he just won't

give you five minutes alone. It would sure be good if he just wasn't around anymore, but you're really hungry. So

I mean, two birds one stone. Like if you spend your whole winter just stuck in this cabin or this small loft with your family and you just kept hearing that, it's almost like the shining concept, you know, like there's eventually a point where even you know, the most wintered huntsman, you know, like winter, the people are like there's a snapping point eventually of when you keep having this like

whispering confrontation in your ear. Like I think that there's like multiple components to it that, like, even within the native view of it, I feel like it's something older than that, where even the viewpoint that we're trying to look at as the origin could still potentially be the first generation of telephone, and we're in the second generation of telephone, and it's actually even from like the origins that we're looking at, it's still a mix of multiple

things that created this thing that we think is the origin, but it actually goes back farther than that.

two deaths. Maybe things just got so weird, like you're seeing cougar's doors or slamming people are dying, you know, with with in an elevator shaft. That's like, you know, you could kind of tell what it is. You shouldn't

just be falling into that. And so these people come in and tear down this building because it got out of control, like like this Jack Fiddler story, It's like it got so out of control that this wind to go hunter rows up in opposition to this thing like Batman versus Joker, Like you know, Joker exists because of Batman, right, It's just an opposition thing or vice versa. So it's and then you get back to the spiritual aspect of this, where you have this shaman who has to come in

and deal with the spirits. I don't know, that's just where my mind goes with this. I think that the line between mythological spirits, and well, I'm not gonna say that because I don't know. That's the best bar about this is it's a mystery. But you see where my head's going with this.

what does everybody end up doing? They create all these like sigils on the walls, you know, whether they're not they're actually like people who are into the occulture, people that are just like ha ha, I'm gonna put a symbol on this ball because it's going to scare people, Like I don't think people realize how much potential power could be, like within symbols that like, you know, there may have been nothing going on at this place, but now you have projected thought on this place, so you

have like the what's what's the name?

symbols all over the wall. They don't realize what they're doing, and they're actually creating like gateways or opportunities for tulpas to form with enough energy and thought, because it's like there's all this energy and thought in this place being haunted, so there's already this like fixated, thick, murky cloud of energy, and then once you put a symbol on the wall,

it's now focused into a point or a place. So it's like the whole Slenderman thing, you know, like it seems like it's something that kind of connected into something farther on, but like the whole Tulpa concept coming into the idea of that that so many people projected energy on it that it's almost like it created created something there or on the other side, there was something already existed there, and because that energy was already formed on there,

it basically took the image of that in order to be able to still function and be able to harness this energy or LOOSU or whatever it might be that these things want from us. But it seems like no matter what way you look at it, these things want us in this dark state, and they want to be

in these heavy dark states. And anytime you have an area where it has this air that's almost thick to the point where you can like taste it or cut it, like, I feel like it's inevitable that something is eventually going to realize that that is like a giant buffet and just take on full advantage of it, even if it wasn't there in the first place. But it'll take the image of whatever the urban legend is that people put

in that area. Because then it's like, anytime you think about it, it's almost like you're like, I don't want to say praying to this anybody in a way, like praying to this entity or giving like respect to this entity. So it's just collecting this and.

are things coming into our reality. I think the government knows about it. I think the FBI when you hear John Desusa talk about it, you know, he says that he was dealing with cases in the FBI where somebody was there one second on a trail and gone the next. Everybody who was with them all but saw them disappear, and it's like something came out of a portal, grabbed this person and went back in, and they tied it

in with this missing four one one thing. So I think they can come into our reality, and they're finding new ways, including the Internet, to bridge the divide between worlds. And I think the Internet might be the new sigual magic. This computer might be the new scrying mirror, you know.

actually connecting our reality into their reality, and they're letting us create this like bridgework, like almost like we're creating this virtual reality that you can almost view as the bridge. But right on the other side of the wall, if we keep going further, is the complete opening of this other reality. And you know, these things are still walking through, you know the cracks in the wall that's happening there.

But like once we push to a certain point, you know, we've essentially created this bridge between.

Internet realm? But we're connecting into it from a different perspective because people talk about these things being like almost like futuristic or like interdimensional looking, and it's like, I think that there's a good possibility that the Internet realm, the DMT realm, the demonic realm, so to speak, are all the same thing, just different names, and we don't necessarily realize like what we're full on tapping into U and this whole demons in the system concept is definitely

something that people got to put a little bit more validity behind because you get like these chatbots into these weird spots where you start asking these questions, they'll start giving these like really weird, off colored dark answers. Then all of a sudden it'll seem like, you know, like a new representative sat down, and then all of a

sudden it's back to all the like robotic responses. Is it like again, we're tapping into this intelligence and it's just a matter of it's sitting back and like not letting us realize like how far we are to actually like breaking down that final dividing wall where now this reality, this virtual reality so to speak, becomes the bridge to whatever is on that other side.

back to this windo goo stuff. You know, there's a Native legend that if you hear the sound of a kettle being struck in the woods, it's the wind to go and you need to get home as soon as possible. And then in modern times, people in these missing four one one cases report hearing a metallic kettle like bang in the woods, like something that sound is like associated with something perhaps coming into our dimensions. So I think the old stories reflect the modern accounts in a lot

of ways. Names change, you know, slender Man, it's so much like this nelusiphilea thing that the Native American talked about in the eighteen hundreds. We've just changed the name, and the times have changed, the surroundings have changed, you know.

periods in time. And I mean you even see that with like other things like UFOs all this stuff. It's like the phenomenon changes and like adapts depending on the time. And again it's the same thing, it's the same archetype.

But it's just a matter of these things clearly have the ability to like alter reality or your perception, or they will alter that what you're viewing in order to make it so that maybe it's a little bit more like you know what you're looking at, you know what I mean, Like they're not gonna come at you.

the people experience. Maybe it's just a lack of understanding so you start bridging the gap in your mind with these other theories on it.

my girlfriend saw one out in the open. It crossed out in front. She had a really long driveway and it crossed right out in front of her car. So she was scared to death. And she was a total believer in Bigfoot, and I didn't have any thoughts on it at that time. I didn't know what she saw, but I knew she saw something because it scared her to death. So and and I would go on to have other encounters with whatever's happening in this area, and sometimes I just didn't have a thought to be scared.

Other times I did. I don't know if that makes sense, but no.

I didn't believe in Bigfoot yet. So anyway, and I know, thank you for telling your story, by the way, and I know you mentioned Bigfoot. Did you want to get into any of that.

I could go for another hour on Bigfoot Man. So yeah, like we can do like a whole show just tackle bigfoot stuff because I got some I haven't seen anything firsthand, but I've definitely had bigfoot experiences, So okay.

full circle a little bit with that one next time too.

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