Cajun Knight Live 19

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About that here in a few but let's go ahead and check the chat real quick. Let's see de salt stockpile price dropped nine percent because of Pakistan shooting down Indian raph aala rafale jets. I could be mispronouncing that, but I checked and it has been up fifty percent for the year, so not too bad. Are you talking about like the military industrial complex for India?

Yeah, well, also France, it's a French company. I saw the headlines saying they're down nine percent because India is shot down like two or three of those jets, And at first they were saying, I mean sorry, Pakistan shot down two or three of the jets, and the first India said no, those are just fuel tanks. Those are meant to be jettison But then with closer inspection of the photos, they were the engines. So yeah, they did

For sure.

And I mean that's the military dustro complex and not just the American one whenever we say that. And of course we're Americans, so we're a bit biased and skewed in our perspective. And I get that. But the global military industrial complex, the weapons manufacturers from around the world, they like when wars pop off, not maybe not big, long drawn out wars, but quick skirmishes that are super violent, very quickly. Absolutely, they could test their new hardware, you

One hundred percent. I get that.

But there's there's nothing like real boots on the ground training in the field, you know what I mean. That data is something that is invaluable to all types of system development. So I get it now. I haven't looked much into the Raffaula.

Yeah it's their fighter. Yeah it's rafale. I'm pretty sure you're pronouncing it.

Right, Okay.

I haven't looked into the data points for that jet itself.

I don't know. I believe that's more of a fighter jet. If I'm not mistaken.

I don't believe it's a stealth bomber and I don't believe it's a reconnaissance type of plane. But even still, so I don't know what that's compared against. I'm sure that France is saying that it's their fifth gen or sixth gen, you know, best thing money can buy. But in reality, like, how does that actually stack up against what America would consider a sixth gen fighter? Because Russia has a completely different understanding of what sixth gen means

In India, India has a completely you know what I'm saying.

Every country has classifications of what they call this generation.

Usually those don't see eye to eye.

So I don't know what that compares against as far as like the American jets that we have in combat or in theater, so to speak. But okay, so you're saying that Pakistan was able to shoot down two of the fringe planes.

Yeah, I think it was too at least confirmed with the engines and raphale I just looked it up. It came out in nineteen ninety one. I remember them from older flight simulator video games, and so.

This is antiquated tech. This isn't cutting edge of shit.

Uh huh. I've heard that F sixteens are still like highly respected and they're the number one fighter jet in the world in terms of numbers. Everyone's got one, MiG twenty nine is number two. I've heard nothing but great things about F sixteen's. They're better than They're more maneuverable than a lot of the newer stuff, more durable. They're a little lower tech, but they can be upgraded. But lower tech means less complicated and less prone to breaking down.

So I'm not Even when I was in the Marine Corps, I was a grunt. I wasn an air wing guy. But from what I was told, if we're gonna try to compare side by side here, the F sixteen in the modern airspace is kind of equivalent to the Sherman tank of World War Two?

Is it the greatest tank out there. Absolutely not.

The Panzer tank trounced it in every situation, right, But it was cheap, it was reliable, you could mass produce them, and honestly, they did the job right. F Sixteen's from what I've been told. And again I'm sure there's somebody in the comments that's gonna say things and stuff because they know more about planes than I do. Fine, not an expert here, but from what I've been told, the F sixteen has been around for quite some time. They're tried and true, you know what I mean. They get

No?

But they are reliable, and there's enough of them to go around to where you can buy one, you know, like nobody's buying the F thirty five. That's, if not mistaken, that's like America's premiere, latest and greatest, cutting edge technology. So they're not gonna sell it to anybody until it becomes antiquated. F sixteen it's been around for a minute,

That's true.

Fine, the MiG is also a very sophisticated plane and it has nothing to turn your nose up at. Yes, it might be cheaper to produce because it came from Soviet air Russia.

Fine, fine, But like it's still an extremely capable fighter jet.

So with that being said, it's like, yeah, it might be not as good quote unquote, it's better than the jet that other countries have, which would be none.

So I mean, you know, everything with a bit of a grain of salt here.

But yeah, So you're saying that the rafale kind of compares to the F sixteen.

Yeah, I would say it kind of does. Another piece of information I just read is that the US didn't want India to use F sixteens against Pakistan. India's bought some F sixteens.

Yeah.

But I've heard similar things between the US and Ukraine and Israel, where the US reserves the best of its technology for itself and it doesn't want to give Ukraine or Israel all the pass codes and passwords to get all the upgrades that make it as good as it can be. So maybe that's why the US was telling India, don't use your F sixteens. So that's why India was using the rafales even though they have F sixteens and they could.

Have that would make sense. But same time, like okay, and I can understand, like because if it gets shot down behind quote unquote behind enemy lines, right, our adversaries, America's adversaries could take that and reverse engineer for themselves. But it's not like the F sixteen is still got some sort of state secrets about it.

It's been out and about for quite some time now.

The F thirty five, yeah, yeah, we don't want nobody getting that. That's why we don't even let them come out of the hangar except for training. Like, they have yet to get a single interception on that platform, and they're not going to right until something is warranting that level of aggression. But the F sixteen, that's kind of crazy to me that they would tell them to hold back on using those, because that's something that has been

But I just don't get it, you know, I don't know. That's interesting.

Yeah, I wish I had more info, But that's about it for Pakistan for me.

Yeah, and that's about what I've heard. It's a bit of a dick measuring contest at this time. They're both kind of taking this opportunity to flex their wings a bit, test their tech, test their military capabilities, kind of, you know, they're playing a little bit of a one up in game. I don't know at this moment if this situation is going to be wrapped up in six months. I don't know if this situation is going to be something that draws on for three, four or five years, like the

Yeah, since forty seven. Well, I'm actually kind of more optimistic about this. I'm pretty pessimistic on a lot of wars like Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Godza, But I'm optimistic that this India Pakistan thing is wrapping up. They've gotten the information they wanted out of the situation and all the drama that they're comfortable with, And yeah, I would bet this is going to be over really soon. My other bet with regard to Russia is that it's we got until March next year.

You think you'll have another year in it, because a couple episodes ago you said six months?

What's changed your mind on this?

No, No, that's like back in March you asked how long do I think it'll go on? And I said, let's I'd say another year, So that'll be March of twenty twenty six. So I think I'm.

Sticking with that.

Okay, maybe I'm trying to remember who it was that said that it'd be done. Somebody said it was going to be done before Christmas, and I don't even know if that was on this show or if it was somewhere else that I heard, But what a horrible phrase.

Who is that person? I considered that phrase before opening their mouth.

Yeah, because, like every single war has always been said, oh, let's wrap it up by Christmas. Five years later, here we are, I know, I know. But okay, so you're still thinking that it's going to be springtime next year.

Yeah, it's just kind of crazy because that's when.

Each side launches their spring offensive. You're saying that they're not gonna have the juice. Either side won't have the willpower or the juice to launch another spring offensive.

I think that Ukraine is well. I thought they were depleted a while ago, but I think they're gonna they're gonna cry Ontal and they're gonna want a PCD, and they're gonna want to solidify the border pretty much where it is now. In fact, I get the sense they're already trying to do that. But Russia, to my chagrin, actually is not taking them up on that pargain.

Right now. I don't know what Putin is hoping for.

And let's let's just assume that he is not trying to take over the whole of Ukraine, Okay, because that's what at least one side of the isle believes. Let's just assume that that's not true, and he's only going for the majority Russian speaking oblasty in Ukraine, and which would be the sides that he's pretty much already taken

I'm sure of it.

I just don't see what more he stands to gain unless he really trying to push all the way to Kiev.

I think he thinks he might be able to get Arkov and Odessa, probably not Kiev, certainly not anything west of Kiev. But that's all right.

We're in Odessa.

No, not right now? Okay, Okay, they Odessa. I mean they almost seceded back in twenty fourteen.

Yeah, after Crimea, they tried to seceed his Well, okay, that's what I'm thinking here. So do we still have Ukrainians in the Curse region. I haven't checked in on Kurskan a little bit. I know that they had you know, they took a decent sized swath of land, and then it was pushback, pushback, push back to where it was like three hundred square meters or something like that. It was like barely any Russian territory was held by Ukraine.

I'm ninety nine percent sure not. They've been kicked out. I can check real quick, right though, right now though, and get back to you on that.

Yeah, man, hit that Google real quick, because I'm I honestly have not. I haven't looked into Kurskan a little while. There's too much stuff going on around the world to where the whole Ukraine Russia situation is kind of like, yep, that's a that's the thing that's still happening.

It's just it's it. Yep.

Yeah. On X it looks like, okay, there might still be a little bit going on there, but they lost the big city Suja. Ok So they're like ninety nine percent of the way out or something.

Does it say when they took back Suja, because I want to say I heard about that.

A few weeks ago.

That was like a month ago.

Yeah, okay, something like that.

I forget too.

So it's still that slow grinding, maybe gaining a meter a day.

Kind of situation trench warfare going on there.

Okay, yeah, I'm seeing maps, but they're really zoomed in and the Russia Ukraine borders right on the map. So they've lost Suja according to Russia. Russia claims they inflicted seventy six thousand casualties. You can do with that number whatever you will, maybe divide it by three or something. Yeah, yeah, it was bad for Ukraine.

Okay, got you all right, So getting back to the chat here real quick, Tony. Also, you know the Circumcision episode from Cosmic Peach I'm assuming was four hours long?

Yeah it was. It was crazy.

Wah.

Okay, well yeah, to answer your question, Royce, before we started shooting, you asked if I had gone and listened to it. No, no, I have not, and I probably won't, not because of having any kind of like beef with Julia or nothing. I love her to desk. She's great, she's cool, bro. I don't have four hours to sit

Was the delivery good? Was this or this? I might go back and find a section.

I can't tell you last time I went back and listened to an entire Cult to Conspiracy episode or a Cajun Knight episode, or any of our affiliates honestly, and I mean Josh Monday. I would love to go and listen to his show, because the man is just amazing.

He's great.

Tony also said, I talked with Josh Monday recently about numbers.

Did you mean the book.

Yeah, I meant the book. I was asking him because I actually messaged him on Instagram a month ago and didn't get to check my messages again because I never go on there. But that's like the only way to connect with him anyway. What I was asking about was the controversial alleged human sacrifice version verse in numbers thirty one.

Have you heard of this human sacrifice from the Jews or from their adversaries?

The alleged human sacrifice performed by Moses in Numbers, chapter thirty one, verse forty. It's after it says that there was a tribute to the Lord of sixty one thousand donkeys and now like maybe sixty one hundred and so many sheep and so many cows and then so many thirty two Midianite virgins. And what does tribute actually mean?

No, no, no, Josh Monday is absolutely the best of us, bro. And I mean I'm not saying he is the all knower of things, but as far as getting a little deeper understanding, especially on biblical texts like Oh my God, I see him as such a source.

Honestly, he's just awesome. But Royce correspondent numbers.

Thirty ten thirty one, verse forty thirty one.

You know, give me a quick second, I'm looking.

I'm about to look up the same thing.

Dude, numbers thirty one forty And are you which version of the Bible? I know it doesn't necessarily matter for this one, but just so we're all on the same page.

Here were you looking at King James?

Oooh not me, I don't remember. Okay, if you google it, Bible Gateway gives you all the translations for Yeah, in English, there's a whole bunch o very.

Not really, I just looked it up on Bible Gateway. As matter of fact, King James and says and the persons were sixteen thousand, of which the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons ASV and the persons were sixteen thousand, of whom Jehovah's tribute was thirty and two persons. Amp the persons were sixteen thousand, for whom the lord's levee was thirty two persons levee.

That's another one.

Now, levy doesn't necessarily mean sacrifice. It could mean, you know, also press ganged into service. You know, I know that the knights of all would bring their levees or their servants with them. That was thirty two persons, But that could be a translation issue.

A lot of it talks about tribute.

Let's see the CEV says here, each half included three hundred and thirty seven five hundred sheep, excuse me, three hundred and thirty seven thousand, five hundred sheep and goats, thirty six thousand cattle, thirty thousand, five hundred donkeys, and sixteen thousand young women. From the half that belonged to the soldiers, Moses counted out six hundred and seventy five sheep and goats, seventy two cattles, sixty one donkeys, and thirty two women, and gave them to a laisar to

Not definitely, not definitely, And I there's I mean, Jews are completely against it.

We don't. We don't believe in human.

Sacrifices, even even the one time that we're that there was a quote unquote sacrifice, which was with isa Isaac, and but God still stopped it. Like we don't believe in that same thing with with drinking blood. It's like we're we have a complete prohibition of drinking blood.

So like that's not a thing now.

With that being said, also okay, I mean I agree that that's the way things are now. But it's hard to tell what the text means, and it seems pretty ambiguous, and I sure hope it means there's no sacrifice going on back then. But human sacrifice was a tradition practically everywhere in the world, probably everywhere in the world, including Europe, the Americas, maybe East Asia. I don't know so much about that, but if you go back you know far enough it was a tradition everywhere.

That's not much us.

So for sure, I'm not arguing that it was done in many cultures. But I mean, I've read the Tour a number of times, and that there's no I don't there's no commentary that I've ever read that says that this is a human sacrifice.

Now, it's just when it says tribute to the sheep and the everything else. You know, for the animals, that's interpreted as some kind of burnt offering probably, but then for the people, we got to kind of interpret it differently. And I wasn't there. I'm not one hundred percent sure this all happened the way the way it's been pasted down, but I sure hope there weren't sacrifices. And anyway, there was one other human sacrifice part. It was this guy

Yeah, so all right, so I just looked up a little bit more context to this one. And as far as Jeff that goes, if I'm not mistaken, he did that kind of out of like. I don't want to use the term bloodlust. It's been a while since I read that parable in that story and everything, but like fair enough, So all right, in numbers thirty one forty this is from Kor. As a matter of fact, what was the meaning of this? How was it worked out?

It says the spoils of war.

Those thirty two people were the text to the levites, or what would also be called tithe I believe, to be put to work caring for the tabernacle.

It was all there, It was all there earlier in the chapter.

So in number thirty one twenty seven, divide what is plundered into two parts, to be shared between those in the army who took part in the battle and all the rest of the assembly. Twenty eight As a tax for Jehovah, you should take from the soldiers who went out into the battle one soul out of every five hundred of the people. The herd, the excuse me, the herd, the donkeys, and the flock. You should take it from their half to give it to Eliazar the priest as

So then it goes on in thirty one.

Yeah, so Moses and Eliezar the priest did just as Jehovah had commanded Moses in verse thirty two. The spoils the rest of the plunder that the people of the expedition had t an amounted to, And those were the big numbers that gave earlier six hundred and seventy five thousand of the flock, thirty three thousand and seventy two of the herd, thirty four and sixty one thousand donkeys verse thirty five. The women who had not had sexual relations with a man amounted to thirty two thousand women

So is it possible that these thirty two.

People were put to work you know, breaking down and rebuilding the tent everywhere they went. I could see that being a possibility.

Royce your thoughts, I mean, that's it could be a possibility. I don't know. I will have to look greater in depth.

I'm trying to look at give if there's any commentary that I can find on it.

Because the Book of Numbers, this is your torah, this is your shit.

No, no, for sure, which is the reason why I'm like, I've read the Tour a number of times and nobody has ever written that this is I think, as you said before, when they say a tribute, I think it's more putting them.

To work that but not for sure, not sacrifices.

And I mean the Levites were the priests, so they were not allowed to have land, they were not allowed to farm. And as far as having slaves slash servants, because correct me if I'm wrong, the Hebrew word for slave and servant is the same word.

Context tells you what the difference is between the two.

So yeah, right, So for the Levite priests to have let's even say one hundred slaves slash servants, they would only be performing.

Like basically sub priestly duties.

They wouldn't be working fields, they wouldn't be mending fences, they wouldn't be you know, collecting tides and tributes things like that. For that, I guess they would just be kind of doing the grunt labor of the temples in the tabernacle.

Was correct.

No, So as far as like was to say, if a Levite or Cohen had a slave, they would not be doing anything of the officiation. They would they would like if it was, it would be in their house, so like basically it'd be a house.

Servant or slave. But definitely not because the.

Only people that were allowed to officiate were the Levites and the Cohens, and they each had different drip of roles. With the Cohen the Kohanim were actually the ones who performed the sacrifices, and then the Levites the Levine were the ones who sang and they chanted during that point, and they like they assisted.

Also another question, now, the terms or at least the terms of agreement so to speak for slaves slash servants, Correct me if I'm wrong, but it couldn't exceed seven years in the most extreme cases, it could only go to fourteen years.

Would these people have been okay? Explain this to me now.

So if.

Like wasn't it generally sold.

Himself into slavery for a life, and then the dead kind of duped him and gave him the older sister. So he had to resell himself to the dead to slavery for seven more years to get it right.

But he wasn't like, he wasn't a slaver, a servant as far as the tour was concerned, as far as that, but no, like generally, what that term is used for is if let's just say, if you.

Stole something and you didn't have the means to pay.

It back, you would then sell yourself to slay or to try to pay off that debt.

Right, That the honorable way to pay off that debt, right.

More or less.

But if you wanted to go past it, then you would have an all drilled through your ear.

And then he could continue being a servant.

Say that again, an awl like so like you you would basically be put on the door post and like they would nail something through your ear and give you like an earring if you want to if if after that seven years period of time, if you still wanted to continue to serve that person, then you were allowed to basically become a servant basically almost indefinitely.

So basically are we talking like a gauge.

Whatever gauge and all would be I mean probably, I don't know, maybe eighth di minage. I have no idea.

Okay, And I said the term, I said Jacob was the one that did that. I don't actually know that off top, has been a while since I read into the ot.

Now I know that that was a that was one of them.

He he sold himself into the servanthood of the Dad to do all of that.

But anyway, but.

Okay, and Lovin tried try to screw out of a lot of things and just and Jacob was was was actually able to.

Get out of there with a lot of wealth thanks to God's help.

Yeah, for sure, for sure, So that was Jacob. I was thinking, Yes, okay, I was on point. Okay, because because they called Jacob a trickster and he wasn't. I mean, because even in the songs that says you should deal cunning to those who tried to deal with you cunningly. So if you if you're dealing with the swiller, then you're allowed to swindle them.

Okay, fair enough.

So now, yeah, I'm wondering if these religious servants would have or house slaves as we could call them. I wonder if their term of service was a lifelong term or because it was a spoils of war type of situation, or if.

There's a different So there's there's also different I'm sorry, there's also difference between a Jewish servants lash slave and some like a servant like for.

A spoil of war. That's that's a completely different thing. A a spoiler of war.

There's no such thing as seven years like basically up until you free them.

So it was a lifelong occupation, so yes, okay.

And and then you can have like children and their children, so.

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, And that what happened with Abraham and Sarah. It was her handmaid slash slave slash servant.

What what what about how Gar?

That was That's what I'm saying.

That was Abraham and that was Sarah's handmaid, that was her servant. And depending on the context, that term being slave or servant, but same thing and correct.

The man of that.

Situation could have well, Sarah gave him permission to go fuck Hey, Gar, let's be honest here, like she she told him to do that because she was not.

So I hold up, But but God also told him, hey, listen to your wife, So it wasn't it wasn't just her, Like, I understand that argument, Like, but I'm not saying whether whether Sarah was right, right or wrong. But now the case, basically, God still gave is approbation. He's like, He's listened to her, and you will still be a father of many nations.

Oh no, I've understood that too.

Like, and even if I'm not putting fault on Sarah, right, I'm not putting fault any I'm not putting fault anybody wasn't there.

I'm not the guy to start throwing guilt on anyone.

Here, I'm throwing a rock inside of a glasshouse with very thin walls.

Here, I get this. But that being said, like, Sarah was also way up.

There in age, So whenever she told Abraham to do this, it wasn't because some sort of weird guilt trip or some sort of weird cuck situation.

It was because the will of God needed to be done.

And since probably not happening from my womb, let's try to make it happen this way, it was.

It was you know, I see the nuances with it for sure, but yeah, it.

Was a change. But did you hear about the sixty six year old German woman who just had her tenth child naturally well actually see section but without any fertility enhancements. That's as old as my mom.

Yeah, East German Wilmhen they're just built different. Boy.

I'm oh, hell, goa's out there still getting after it, boy, tenth child at.

Sixty sixty six, she was as old as my mom.

Good for her.

Good for her, still getting at it and not just like not just you know, pro creating, but like producing a child and bringing all the way through the whole nine. I mean, please, Raven Lee, you being the doula and having so much background with birthing practices, a sixty six year old this is that's not like unheard of. But also that's pretty wild.

There's actually been quite a few mothers, so technical grandmothers that have carried their grandchildren for their children because they could not the wives could not be able to carry the babies, and it's either their their daughter or their husband's you know wife and stuff, and they end up carrying the child. There's there's quite a few stories been happening of that, and they're like in their sixties seventies carrying children. And there's that grandma that just made like

But there are women that's good.

Look, there are women that are able to have oh shit, that are able to have lots of like babies like into their later times. Like it wasn't until men like and it wasn't until like obi started to change, is when like the geriatric term came about, right, So, like geriatric terms starts at thirty five now, so you're a thirty five year old and you're geriatric.

That blows my mind also because and before I even heard about the sixties and seventy year olds having babies, which I'm still having a hard time really putting all those pieces together in my brain. Gonna be honest with you, but all right, I know personally women in their early forties that have had children successfully, and I know there's gonna be people out there, well, they were on bed rest for nine months. No, No, they weren't. They were

That's a bit. That's a bit, it's incorrect.

It's because of so like your hormones some people, because and it all kind of contributes into what they're putting in our food and stuff like that. Sure, so it starts pre menopausal symptoms, it can be so.

Menimosus usually hit women, and I thought this was somewhere around.

The late forties early fifties is when it normally starts. But honestly, like my generation has started to see premenopausal symptoms as early as like thirty four years old because of the increased eschigen and all the food and what they're putting in stuff. So it's kind of contributing. Like just on that same hand, how little girls are now starting to see more puberty happening at nine, ten years old instead of thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. Sure, it's it's like it's the same thing.

So so thirty years from now, this nine year old that's going through puberty right now will start seeing metopausal things about like thirty five, thirty nine.

They could be really experiencing metopause.

Yes, they really can be. And there's a lot more women that have been experiencing breast cancer and ovarying cancer earlier and earlier because of a lot of contributing factors in the environment or food or water and stuff like that. And so the whole idea behind the you know, geriatric is because you do start to lose your eggs, Like your eggs aren't as viable sure as you are when you're nineteen twenty years old. But I know tons of women and I actually belong to an old it's called

As far as the obgy ns and genders, me and you have had this discussion before offline. It blows my mind how many men there are in the gynecology field. That that's a bit insulting in my personal opinion strictly because like that's like me, I have a beard. If I'm going to a barber to get my beard trimmed, I don't want it to be a woman. I want it to be a guy, you know, with a beard. That that would make sense to me. In other countries, is obg y ns and gynecology seen more as a

So the male men being present in OBI actually started a long time ago, and so they it's more inherently towards England. Scotland is where it originated, and then it transferred over to America. There are doctors like in other places that are OB's that are men, but they I've noticed that a lot of more cultures that are more centralized around feminine health and like feminine like energy, they

That makes sense, right, because now we're the ones that were going to college and could read and all these things.

Like, I get that.

But even today, you would think, in even in Western society and in America and in Europe, you would think that, especially nowadays, with women being so empowered and having so many more opportunities available to them now than they have had arguably in the last thousand years, you would think that they would be kind of taking back that title.

They are, Yeah, slowly, they slowly. But there are amazing male obs. My mom had an amazing male obi for forty something years, doctor Dickerson. That is a fantastic man, and he actually opened up the birth center of Baton Rouge. He is very natural minded and like he is one of the best doctors I've ever seen. So I don't

Now let me ask you this from again from your experience, because you at one time were adula, You've worked in midwifery for years. Let me ask you this the as far as the more natural and the older ways of childbirth, are some of these I could understand as being seen as arcane? And I guess my question is does it depend on where the source is from to dictate whether it is being implemented more these days?

Like water birth's fine, absolutely, why not?

But I could imagine that there's probably some birthing practices that is being used in parts of the world right now that would seem barbaric to Americans today, whether it's female centric or not.

Are we seeing that they're kind of accepting all the above.

As far as the older and more traditional natural quote unquote ways, are they being selective with which things they're trying to implement in America.

So to get things implemented in America, you have to have a lot of clinical studies and trials done, and that is quite difficult. Actually, one of the midwives here in the SA Louisiana has been working for a good number of years to prove that v backs are safe. So that's a vaginal birth after cesareans in water at home and what she has to what she's been doing is having to take her clients because it's illegal here in the state and it's not legal everywhere else.

What is v backs, So that having a vaginal birth after a C section is illegal in Louisiana.

It's illegal to have at home with a midwife. So they're very selected. So the wording is very careful, and it's to do to complications like that. Yes, there can be extreme complications, sure, but the problem is is that you have to have scientific data. But how do you get scientific data when it is not acceptable, when it is against the law to have it. And it's kind of one of those things where they pick and choose. When I say they, I'm talking about the national associations

Yeah, so I.

Don't advise it for that, but I definitely say that there's a lot to do with birth culture, and like I could talk forever and I'm not going to take up your whole time about it, but it is definitely our thing. It is gaining popularity, the conversation to become more natural thankfully.

Yeah, no, I agree. And that seems like you said, it's becoming.

More widely accepted and more talked about to do natural childbirth, or at least more women are wanting to attempt it now, depending on what area of the country are in. A lot of women say they would like to do an all natural childbirth, and then when they when rubber really meets the road, they say, screw that, give me drugs, give me a sea section, and just get it out of me. And you know, and I'm not I am not disparaging women who need to have a sea section.

So yeah, there's it depends on the culture, so like I can't like it depends on the culture. Considering like there is a lot of women in the South that tend we have the highest sea section rate in Louisiana out of the country. Now that can be from a cultural view, that can be from the doctor point of view. There's a lot of contributing factors to that. I will say that there is a growing trend of women here

So you know what, this is actually a perfect segue to one of the articles I have pulled up here as a matter of fact, speaking on RFK and all the things that he is doing. So he just decided that he is going to be banning like thirty five different types of food. These foods will be banned under RFK Junior. This is from a lot Living dot alt dot com. RFK Junior has been nominated as the next Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services under

Chee its chee.

It's a flavor snack uses artificial colors like yellow number six to achieve their iconic look. However, studies have linked such dies to allergic actions and behavior changes in children, raising concerns among health advocates and consumers alike. Which sucks because I love cheese its McDonald's. He is trying to change menu options, if not trying to bam McDonald's completely. I don't know how well it's going to go, but

There is way more sugar in that than what needs to be.

Traditional ketchups are actually like legit like mushroom based ketchups are so good, but they keep going for the brown sugar based ones like we have today.

Anyway.

Ice cream again, not really happy about that, but RFK is waging a war against ice cream right now as well. Skittles again for the red dye number forty and yellow number five.

Instant noodles.

He's hitting on the college kids now, so yeah, he's basically going after top ramen and other types of instant noodles because to be fair, if you look at the nutrition facts on this one as well, and how they're made. That's like sixty percent wax in these instant noodles. They're not exactly like grain based noodles or even rice based noodles. It's it's pretty much wax, and like, we know that it's not healthy. But RFK has decided that he's gonna do some things to try to stop that lucky charms.

We'll get to that. Lunch meats.

Lunch meat is a staple for packed lunches across the United States. Where will we be if it couldn't If we couldn't make our kids quick turkey and cheese sandwiches. Well, with the new administration and the new food safety regulation, we might have to figure out what to do instead. Processed meats like deli meats and hot dogs use preservatives such as nitrates and nitrates. Nitrates and nitrites, excuse me,

Frozen dinners.

I'm not too mad about this, but there's tons of single men out there that are Frozen Dinnors often rely on artificial flavors, preservatives, and coloring agents to maintain taste and appearance, but these additives have been tied to health concerns such as obesity and high sodium intake.

I mean, yeah again, that kind of makes sense.

Red Bull A drinks like Red Bull are known for their high caffeine and sugar content, which have been linked to health issues such as hard problems and obesity. Shirtter food regulations could target these ingredients from prompting increased scrutiny from health advocates.

Flavored yogurt.

Flavored yogurts off rely on artificial sweeteners and colors to enhance taste and appearances, special specifically to target children, but these additives have been linked to health concerns like metabolic issues and allergic reactions. Farmed salmon. Wild salmon is fine, but apparently farmed salmon. He's saying no more to give farm salmon its famous pink color. The fish is often fed synthetic ass stuff as taxathlene. Sure, I am butchering

Stricter regulations under RFK Junior could lead to scrutiny.

Of such additives in a aquaculture. Artificial sweeteners. I'm here for that ban. All of the artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose are common in sugar free food and drinks. Both studies have shown that they can cause gut problems or affect how our bodies handle sugar. Stricter rules could mean a closer look at their safety. Not to mention, there has been so many links to brain cancer when

I think that's also the same thing with the lunch meats. Canned tomatoes.

You've probably never thought about what's in actual cans that your food comes in, but health officials have stricter Food regulations could target BPA, a chemical in canned.

Linings, due to concerns over effects on hormone functions and brain health. Energy bars.

Energy bars could face elimination under our case policies due to the reliance on artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and ultra processed ingredients. Add Is like sucralose and sugar alcohol's harm gut health and may contribute to metabolic disorders and inflammation. Non organic strawberries not gonna lie, didn't see that one coming, but okay.

Due to pesticide heavy.

Farming practices, non organic strawberries are at high risk of being banned. Tests have revealed residues from dozens of harmful pesticides, including carcinogens like carbondism and indocrine.

Distributors or disruptors.

Rather, these post threats to consumer health, especially to vulnerable populations.

Cake frosting.

Mass market cake frosting could disappear under our off case policies due to its reliance on transfats from hydrogenated oils and artificial dyes like red forty and yellow five marshmallows. Again, I think this ties into Lucky charms and what his big thing about that is. Yeah, the dyes are bad, but marshmallows might face scrutiny due to their questionable ingredients such as gelatin source from in dust animal processing, and

Ranch dressing.

Store bought ranch dressings contain hydrogenated oils and artificial flavor enhancers like monosodium glutamate. All right, now, okay, now calm down there, RFK, I love my MSG, leave me alone.

Uh.

These ingredients are linked to inflammation, heart disease, and other chronic illnesses, making them incompatible with clean eating ideologies.

Flavored potato chips.

The sodium causing the metabolic disorders and increase obesity risks. I get it, Taco kids. I feel like he's just kind of going out of his way on this one. But yeah, pre seasoned taco kits often contain high levels of sodium and artificial flavors. MSG's frozen chicken nuggets, same thing, the sodium, phosphates, autolized yeast extract and fillers to preserve texture and flavor.

Frozen fish sticks same thing, same thing.

Low quality fish mixed with binders, sodium, heavy coatings, and artificial additives.

Imitation crab meat.

You know the sushi industry is gonna have something to say about that one, But I mean, why don't we use real crab meat.

I know it's more expensive, but it tastes so much better. It does. It tastes so much better.

Imitation crab meat combines sera meine, processed fish paste with starches, soor bid all and artificial colorings to mimic the taste and texture. These additives contribute to low nutritional value, which conflicts with initiatives encouraged encouraging whole nutrient rich foods. So anyway, yeah, those are just a quick thirty five food item list of things that RFK is trying to ban.

Go ahead, Raven Lee.

What I find interesting is that if you go over sees to other countries and you actually like eat if they're McDonald's, for example, like the McDonald's in Okinawa, Japan is like the best food ever. It's a gourmet food because they have to adhere to the health standards in which that country is in. Yet America has like pretty much no standards and they get away with feeding you like absolute dog shit. And people are upset that these things are being changed. And I don't quite undestand why.

I remember when I was in Paris, I went to McDonald's and the only reason why was because they sold Heineken there.

I don't even drink Heineken.

But like where else in my life am I going to be able to order a beer with my burger?

Like? I thought that was dope to do it at McDonald's.

So I did, I will say, and yes, the pulp thing of a Royala cheese and the whole I did that. I ordered that it tasted different, but not worse by any means it I'm I don't wouldn't call it necessarily better, but I will say that it definitely tasted healthier, like by and large.

So as far as.

Like, like you said, they have to maintain the food standards of the country that the McDonald's is currently in, so in Okinawa, Japan, Japan cares about what their people are putting into their bodies, like they truly care France. I would think, not as much as Japan, but they definitely care more than America.

So yeah, RFK is trying.

To ban these items, and it's because of the dies, it's because of the sodium intake, it's because of the artificial sweeteners, it's because of the uh phosphates and phost fights. I get it, and I'm not mad at it. But he also needs to stop his hatred towards MSG. I draw the line there. I'm probably gonna die on the hill of loving MSHG.

Go ahead, Raven.

So him banning these things like this is such a huge move for a lot of people that have been like saying and preaching this myself included for a long time of like these things are terrible for you, Like this is causing a lot of it's like an epidemic, really like the sugar epidemic. Like there's a fascinating there's a lot of document Uh, there's a lot of like videos that I've been made. There's actually one on Netflix

But yeah, I get it.

But we also and I'm not even trying to take the side of the people getting mad about this. But the reason why is because a people do not like change. Like by and large, like a person can get down with it, the masses is very, very very hesitant towards change, even if it's shown to be a good and healthy change, they don't typically like it. That being said, also, you look at countries in Europe throwing it out, they have way stricter food requirements.

That they allow their people to ingest than we do in America.

Right, they also have a fraction of the population, and so when you talk about like their version of public school, for instance, they have more money that they could put towards good food. When in America we have money. We have a really good economy. I know that depends on who you ask, but like, as compared to most of the world, America is not doing poorly.

I think that's a pretty understood fact. And we could put twenty more, twenty more money.

Towards food for our children and towards the public school system, but that would mean less money for the rich people. That means that they're not getting as much of a bonus at the end of every quarter, at the end of every year, and like that's just crazy, you know. So I think it's a mixture of things. It's like a compound issue. I think that greed plays a lot into it. I think that people not liking change plays

They actually were cooking the food for the children. It was like fifty.

Cents more per meal than what the public schools were paying. And somehow that just was what it was, and it was way more nutritious. And like he was showing me, he broke it down, your average meal for one of the students that he cooked for, and the average meal for one of the students that the public school is given, especially like the free lunch systems and all that which not here to throw shade at. I understand everybody's got their shit. My point is fifty cents more per meal.

I don't mind my tax dollars.

Going towards making sure these babies are eating better food. I know that's probably a controversial hot take for some people.

I'm good with it. I'm good with that.

I'm good with Rather than I'm just gonna use the USAID group that Doge found all the crazy fraud and all that stuff. I know there's a lot more, but that's an easy one to pick right, low hanging fruit. Rather than spend so much money for Iraqi sesame streep and bearded.

Circus ladies on ice to teach us.

About global warming, if we are to hawk that and put it towards our food for our children in our public school system, I see that as more of an investment.

That's just me.

I don't know, but yeah, we will see. RFK is trying to push these things forward. I don't know if they will absolutely happen. I know that he is pushing it further and further every day, but we will see. I'm gonna keep everybody posted on it as things progress, all right, Getting back to the chat here, Tony, give

What are these numbers about?

This goes back to when we were talking about circumcision the beginning of the episode. Okay, wow, yeah, we kind of moved on from that. It just varies a lot. Wid Yeah, I definitely believe it's it's really high here, and I think most males in this country kind of had to figure out what it was after they had already been seeing their friends' penises and elementary school. But yeah, maybe this is oversharing. But I was the only uncircumcised guy. I did not know why mine looked so different, but

I do know that it is more on the rise in America, and there's some people that believe that that's because of the illegal immigrant conversation, but that's that's kind of a cop out. There's so as far as the yeah, and we kind of touched on it. Wow wow oo bad phrasing. We kind of brought it up in conversation earlier in the episode, and to kind of bring it around here, evangelical christendom in America is why the circumcision conversation was so prevalent for so long. Like I brought

But it wasn't you know, it was seen as a cleanliness thing.

If you're going to deploy, they don't want you to get I mean, you know part in the expression here, but they didn't want you to have dick cheese and get dick rot when you go overseas.

So it was for cleanliness and hygiene issues. I get that.

But with the way the world is now and what we know about germ theory now more than then, I mean, realistically, we didn't I'm not mistaken.

We didn't even know that there was.

Different blood types until the late fifties, like real. So that being said, yeah, it's more of a esthetic thing, and there's religious reasons for some of it. I get that one hundred percent, But more often than not, it's an aesthetic thing and it is a just a preference thing. It's not it's not for the betterment of one's health like it once was, at least not in America. Now, some of these other countries on this list, some of

I I was trying to get to it. I was looking at statistics on a type of disorder for penises considered. Since you're I.

Can hear him, okay, kind of cutting in and out on that one, Raven. I don't know what the situation is there, but you were looking at penis disorders. Felt like that was about to be a very charged conversation.

Okay, can you hear me now?

I can?

Okay, No, So I was looking at statistics because so speaking of like different countries, hypospadism is a type of disorder where your urethra hole is not where it's supposed to be and it's actually gained. I wouldn't I'm not going to say a popularity, but it's gained traction, so there's a lot more people seeing cases. It's inherently a

So it all kind of is tying in.

With natural birth as well. And that's what I was trying to get to it before you guys moved on.

But I was like, damn, so yeah, I feel that.

I mean, I get it.

My former father in law, as a matter of fact, he had to have I mean, this is within the realm of the circumcision conversation, but kind of adjacent in a way. So long story short, he caught swine flu back when that was like the thing that they thought was going to be.

The new plague.

Right.

He is the only human being I know that actually caught it and almost died because of it. He was laid up in the hospital for months and months, had bedsores. He had to have skin grafts put on, And where they got the skin grafts from was stem cells from the foreskins of circumcised babies. They you know, the parents that opted to let the foreskins be used for medical research and whatever else. They were actually able to take them and use stem cells from that to make skins.

So just for just.

On the religious aspect of it, pretty much anybody who's not Jewish, I think doesn't need to be. I mean the obviously that's everybody's prerogative and their choice in general, at least where it came from, at least how I always taught, or how the Jews believe it originally came from from Abraham was the covenant between you know, him and God and the Jewish people.

So that's one of those things.

However, even in Judaism and sol believe they talk about if there are people that have died from circumcisions in the past, that you know, you should not get your sun cervicised circumcised. So there are cases even in Judaism where people, even though they should get circumcises, there are.

Medical reasons in which you know they don't.

So but you know, anybody who's not Jewish, like, it's for sure a choice, Yeah.

For sure, for sure.

I actually was just reading, uh, I forgot about that part in the Bible where David made a covenant with God and he had to get a hundred was it Philistine foreskins something like that.

Yeah, something like that.

And they were talking about in that Flagrant episode with Wes Halff, and it's like, bro, how do you get that? He's like with a sword, he did what like, look, God said he needed one hundred four skins from these people, and David was about all the smoke.

So you know, he did what he had to do.

And I thought that was a of all the flexes that you could have done for your God like that.

You know, I'm here for it.

I'm here for that as fuck the Philistines, you know, Philistines, however you want to pronounce that anyway, super off topic. We could totally move on here. Let's see here. Ooh, kind of on topic though. Zombie aka raven Le shared this other article.

It's fascinating.

At the height of US slavery, seventy eight of the slave owners were Jewish. Seventy eight percent of the slave owners were Jewish. Since only one point six of the total population owned slaves, and the Jews made up three point one two five percent of the population, this means that forty percent of the Jews owned slaves in America while only point three to five percent of White's own slaves. Now that's at the height of it. And I'm gonna

Big anti Semite.

So maybe there was something to be said for that, Maybe because he thought that most of the slave owners in the South were Jewish.

I don't know.

As we as we watch documentaries that could or may or may not have been based off of true events like Django Unchained, I have a hard time seeing Leo DiCaprio's character being Jewish. But like I don't know that for a fact, I do a lot of things unpack on this one. Everybody please chime in, Tony, what you got.

Yeah, if I remember the anecdote right, Ulysses S. Grant was trying to occupy some town in one of the Carolinas, and some of the Jewish residents were smuggling things and circumventing the blockade on the south. So he kicked them all out of that town. But then I think Lincoln overrode him, and then I was not aware of he Grant wrote anything antisemitic or not, But in that one instance,

Sure, And I do know for a fact, I've read the paper that Ulysses as Grant wrote, and it's scathing, is being very kind. He was hateful towards the Jews, and maybe it does go back to that smuggling situation. Maybe there was something that he was brought up believing on this maybe had to do with the slave trade.

I have no idea.

What his like, what his stigma against them was, but he absolutely was a vehement anti semi which is crazy to me that anybody of the North had any kind of real, like inherent racism, because Abraham Lincoln was a malungion like he was a mixed race individual himself, and you know, and I'm not sure if that was like mixed with Native blood or if he was part black or whatever the case was. I'm sure there's some expert that's gone back and pulled DNA samples and all this.

But like.

You know, and I also love the belief that he was a high functioning autistic as well, along with Stonewall Jackson. As you read some of the journals and reports from their contemporaries, I think that these were like high functioning either aspergers or autism or some sort of like social disorder. Their brains were next level on certain regards, but also like they were not quote unquote normal men by any of their contemporary standards. So I mean, I don't know,

I saw your hand raise, go ahead.

I was just gonna say that, like, and I just dropped that in the chat. I don't actually believe that. I just was said that by people. Lots of anti Jew stuff being like circulated through the interwebs, and I get that constantly from people send me stuff. It seems like there's a heavy push in the conspiracy community that there is a lot of like anti Jew stuff. So I just wanted since you guys were talking about it, I was like, well, here's what I just was sent

Yeah, in the conspiracy world, it is like it's in vogue to hate the Jews.

Again.

I personally don't like that at all, but yeah, I'm serious. I'm gonna start like keeping a tracker of every episode of the Cult of Conspiracy when we have like a guest on and just like, see how many episodes per month we have a person blaming the Jews for one thing or another because like, for instance, we all know the Jews control the weather, and it's like, bro okay, like that's a joke. You hear conspiracy stand up comics make that joke all of the time. I've heard I

It's a joke. But my god, so many people.

Are no longer joking when they make crazy claims like this.

And you know, yes, I understand the roth Childs are Jewish.

Yes, I understand that Lennon was a Jew and the I get that, but we're also talking about like way down the bloodline Jewish. It's not like these people are like going to temple and like celebrating Hanukkah and shit.

But yeah, Tony, go ahead, bro.

Yeah, I got a little bit more. I was looking into this. There's a website called Reform Judaism dot org with a long article on Ulysses S. Grant, and it

Okay, so you're saying that, yeah, during the war, that was his position, but then towards the I'm trying to remember when the first Russian pogram happened against the Jews, but that sounds like it was actually around the time where he was president, and we're talking like the two thousand people that were being like exiled from the border areas of Russia that he was spoke out against.

So his position changed, Okay.

Yeah, he was elected president in eighteen sixty nine. The Russian situation with the collapse of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth in seventeen ninety eight, meant the Russian Empire took over a lot of territory with a lot of Jews in it. It was called the Palist Settlement. They weren't supposed to leave, but it was a very poorous border and it was kind of like how illegal immigrants can come to the

Okay, Royce, I'm actually going to ask you to weigh in on this one. You everybody's heard me make the jokes about the Gypsies and how they're actually the ones running the world. It's a joke doing the good Aroma gypsies listening good God.

There's no hatred being set. It's all in jest.

That being said, you know what does the Jews take on the Gypsies like as a whole? I know you can only speak for yourself, but does judaism in as a whole have an opinion.

On the Roma?

I don't believe so. I mean, in the orthologic circles that I've roamed in, I've never heard them be brought up like most Jews are trying to study Taura. Do midst of us have a family to go to school, serve god like and do their business so like I.

Would? Don't?

I'll okay, I do have one little thing on this. Have you ever seen the TV series Car fifty four, a black and white TV show from the early sixties. It was made by Nat and Gerald Hiken. I believe they were Jewish, but and some Jewish stuff comes up in it, like bar Mitzvah's and it's treated very nicely. But they had this one episode called the Gypsy Curse. With all the Gypsy stereotypes, you can imagine it very very negative, like what are you doing, son, You're getting

Yeah, oh, those old Gypsy stereotypes for sure. And I mean there's stereotypes for Jewish people and apparently Polish people, like I didn't realize that Poland was seen as the Florida of Europe, but like that that is one hundred percent, so the whole the they're seen as and taking the good Polish people listening.

Don't get mad at me.

I didn't make the stereotype there seems like the dumbest of the whites and the heaviest of drinkers outside of the Irish. But apparently the Pollocks and I've you hear movies and you see these references where they dropped these like racial slurs towards Polish people. And I've always grown up thinking like, I had no idea there was racism towards Polish people. That's a new one on me. Same with the Gypsies. But yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough.

Well even here in the US they used to be all the football players they were Polish. There was this episode of The Jetsons where there was this football game in the future and all the football players were robots, but they still all had Polish names like Kotchinski and potent Ski.

They were all Skis. Yeah, yes, indeed.

I remember when I was in the Marine Corps there was a couple of buddies that we were having this conversation one day and they were like, you know, they were trying to figure out their family lineage.

You were trying to.

Guess based off of how people look, because that's what you do. And pretty much I was like, dude, you're white, your last name ends in a vowel, you're Italian. And you're like, wait what, And I'm like, unless your last name is Ski, then you're Polish. Other than that, you're it's like a ninety five percent shot that if your last name ends in a vowel and you're white, you're of Irish or I'm sorry of Italian or Sicilian descent,

And I get that. Is that a thing in the Jewish community, like in.

Today's world that people try to look back and see if they had a connection to some sort of like a Jewish mafia element or is that seen as like like something that people don't even want to be associated with How is that viewed?

I'll probably imagine this family by family, I think, So I don't, frankly, I don't know. I was never really I was never brought up religious exactly, and so I can't tell you. I tell you who was raised, you know, religious from birth, who was in or fox their entire life.

Life my general associally, it would be through.

The family, like, oh, by the way, you know, you're a great grandfather or great great or whatever had ties or through that.

That's why I think fair enough, I think, yeah, I was just curious.

Yeah, my ex wife was Sicilian, so she had like three uncles that were involved in the mafia in New Orleans and they all were under Carlos Marsalis. So I mean, like that's a thing within the Italian and Sicilian community.

Now a lot of them hate that.

A lot of Italian Americans like don't want to be associated with that because that makes them look bad. The other side of that is like there's a sense of pride that comes with that being associated with something as powerful as Casinostra. So like, you know, all that included didn't know what that was like on the Jewish side of things.

But that makes sense.

You were brought up Messianic and then you went to more orthodox, so you Christian.

Yeah yeah, wait say again Christian.

Right, so you were kind of removed from the whole quote unquote jewness of things. So yeah, yeah, fair enough. All right, let's get back to the chat here, uh, says har G Royce. According to Jewish law, even one who owns slaves don't or not supposed to treat any slave with disrespect or some par the phrase acquire a slave, acquire a master because of all of the responsibilities a slave owner has.

Okay, that's one of the things.

By the way, Royce, we're gonna put a pin in this one, and me and you could talk about it offline, because I don't know if you have the capabilities of looking this up now.

Apparently I don't.

I don't know where it says this in the Talmud, but in the Talmud it says that if a Jewish slave master beats one of their slaves to death and they're exonerated by Talmudic law or something along those lines. I've heard Jonathan mention that so many times. I'm like, there's no way that's in the book. He's pulled it up before. I'm not sure if it's a misquote or what the context was, but that's one of the things that I've heard a lot of haters of the Jews

So as you've said, like it's the place in time, Like some of these laws that are spoken about or things that are spoken about in there are not applicable right now, Like we don't have a temple.

We don't we don't have a Sanhedrin, Like we don't have slaves, we don't have we don't administer the four.

Ways of death. So like bringing up things.

That are thousands of years ago, It's like, this is kind of gets on my nerves.

Speaking of saying san Hedrin. Do I say it right? Good job, perfect, Finally got it right? All right.

Have you heard of Rabbi mir Yakov hakkuk Hallivi.

Apparently he is.

The president of the.

What they are now calling.

The new sand Heedron, and they are trying to get him ready to perform the sacrifices when the temple is rebuilt. I've been seeing a lot of videos about this guy. He doesn't look like the priests from on high and he he doesn't adorn himself with like the fanciest and like, nah, he looks like your average Jewish dude living in Israel right now.

But apparently this guy is the guy. Have you heard of him?

So I have not, But also tell you, like you, unless there's a temple, you can't, like the high.

Priest can't adorn himself with the garments, like there's a.

Go for it.

Go ahead, well, I mean, like yeah, to to go into the temple, into the Holy holies and perform the sacrifices.

That's when he would wear the whole garb and stuff. I get that.

I'm saying like he doesn't even as a regular guy. He's not dressed in like fine suits and like he's not some sort of super wealthy, well to do guy.

He looks like your average Joe blow.

But he is the dude that has been chosen and if I'm not mistaken, he is of the bloodline of Levi. He's a Cohen all the things, and he's like the dude that when the temple gets rebuilt, if it gets rebuilt in his lifetime, he is the guy that's going to be going in to perform the sacrifices. I didn't know if you had heard of him or anything about him. I would love to hear you two, since.

You'll also send me an article later on.

That would be very interesting that I believe, at least initially, maybe.

The Coen guzzle is chosen. I don't know, but it's supposed to be like father or the son. But if the son isn't worthy of it, I think they can definitely choose somebody else. But there's a lot of things that would have to have happened. So the red the red heifer, that that's one.

They got like nine of them right now, and they're trying to breed them to make.

More of them.

I mean so according to to what I just learned not too long ago, there's only ever been ten red heifers in history, or like nine, and there will be a tenth so like that have actually been used.

For for the ashes. So there really haven't have not been very many of them.

Yeah, because that's only a thing that happens the first go round to like consecrate the altar.

It's not like the thing that happens yearly.

So and right.

So whenever they were when whenever all of the vessels were being concentrated from the tumble. You're right, so they were sprinkled. However, when somebody, after somebody has been made pure again after their time of impurity, you need to go out and be sprinkled. Yeah, so it's a it's supposed to happen with with a lot and you just basically just use a little.

Bit of ash and then a lot of water and you know, dipping and stuff in the stuff.

Yeah.

So while things are happening, I will send you some articles about the guy. And I'm not like, I have no shade to throw at him. I know nothing about him of a positive or negative nature. He was, from what I've been given to understand, chosen by other rabbis his peer group to be the.

High priest, so to speak.

So I'm sure his credentials are long and his knowledge base is beyond repute.

I'm sure of these things.

But yeah, yeah, but anyway, yeah, we can talk more about that at a later time. Let's see here, Tony says, my wife has some issues. We have five kids, but probably won't have any more. Things started going wrong with the last press. See though our last child was fortunately healthy, we have also seen some horrible things with some of our friends. One couple son died during birth basically was on life support for one week and then pulled off.

So yeah, that's the thing.

I feel like we as humanity, not just in America but across the world, are in a really good place as far as the We have all of the natural sources of things that we can and should be using at our disposal, but we also have the miraculous world of modern medicine that can save so many lives.

And I think that we're in a really good place.

But because of that, a lot of people are not having as many children as they did back in the day, you know, and a lot, like you said, complications have come up these days, and men are not just like willing to lose their wives because that's just.

How childbirth works, like you know.

It's yeah, a lot of things have come a long way as far as that's concerned. Alexandra, he banned Lucky Charms. Oh hell no, I'm gonna come. Yeah, I'm with you. I love Lucky Charms. I don't even eat much cereal these days, but if I do have my choice, like Lucky Charms is a solid grab. But you make saying marshmallows being so dangerous, all the dies being in this mixed so dangerous, even the grain part of that, because as general mills, you know, it's good, it's whole grain.

Us slowly, so, you know.

But there's what's that one cereal company they sponsor so many YouTube channels with it real spoon, I think it's called and they have healthy all natural alternatives to lucky charms for instances and all of these things. So like, there are other things that we could be consuming that are just as good but healthier, and hopefully possibly America could start shifting more into that direction, that would be amazing. Jackie says, it's crazy how dangerous food is here in America.

I'm not you know, that didn't shake me.

But uh yeah, Bush and most most Anheuser Busch products, cores h Miller. These were all on the list of things that we probably shouldn't be ingesting.

But again, this is Amurica.

We're gonna drink what we're gonna drink, So yeah, I'm not too worried about it at this point.

Let me see here. Merlin shared a picture.

What is this China science deal with Russia to build a power plant on the moon, potentially leaving the US in debt. Oh, for the love of God, Merlin, please tell me you read this article and have some more context on this.

Please, Merlin, you with us, sir? There you go?

Yeah, yeah, no, not yet. I was reading that Alchemist when I saw last night we're into.

That alchemists wanted to saw that interesting.

What do you mean, Oh, well, I saw this reads this article where they're saying at certain they basically prove that you can turn lead into gold by removing protons.

Yeah yeah, yeah, so they're splitting the atom and reconfiguring it to make it a new element.

But it's only temporary.

Yeah, but how did alchemists in the past even though that would be a possibility.

So, and I'm not trying to throw shade on alchemy, because I do believe that that is the basis.

For what we would now call chemistry and true science.

The oldest written alchemical text is essentially a book of what we would now call how could I say this without sounding insulting, sleight of hand, how to make things look like there's something else when it's not there was, And again this is before the oldest text has nothing.

Spiritual about it whatsoever.

Now, alchemy absolutely went into the realm of spirituality as well, especially when you look at Mary the Jew or Maria the Jew, or whatever you want to call her. She was the mother of modern alchemy, and if I'm not mistaken, she's the one that created distillation and invented.

The double boiler.

As a matter of fact, the way she was writing things is when it started getting more into the esoteric and spiritual side of things. But basically, if you read what she wrote in the context that she was actually writing it, and remove our modern interpretations of the words and look at what she was saying, she was talking

When you started getting more.

Into the chemical compounds and the breakdowns that were started to happen around the turn of the millennia, right when we're going from like one hundred BC to one hundred AD. I'll even give you the wide birth of two hundred BC to like five hundred AD. This is when they were really starting to get down and dirty with what

It's fascinating.

Yeah, yeah, Sorry I went on a crazy long tangent on them, but yeah, I find alchemy to be extremely fascinating. I think that a lot of people put way more weight behind it than what it's due. But then in another regard, a lot of people just dismissed it as wu wu hook them, and it's like, no, there's this is true science, you know, just because they use a spiritual sigil to you know, be the symbol on the

So yeah, I find alchemy to be just fascinating anyway.

With SERN doing what they're doing though, Bro, one second, they're over here splitting time portals and they got some sort of a living entity inside of the hydrant collider and all that. Now they're over here doing alchemy. They they're just doing the most over there.

It's wild. Ah.

So all right, is there more to that article that you read or not so much as far as the China the power plant on the Moon with Russia.

That's that's pretty wild.

Wow, remember to help my life with a few things.

But heard that was dark?

Was that part?

Now? I'm just curious.

Now I'm gonna google that on my own because okay, China and Russia Moon power plan.

Let's just see what comes up on the old jujul.

Ah.

Oh yeah, nope, that is that is a real thing that is happening. Shut up. Okay, yep, we're gonna have to talk about this one.

Let's do it.

We' go go ahead and share the screen at this time, and let's learn a little something together. Good uh nights members of the round table. So this is from LiveScience dot com. China Science deal with Russia to build a power plant on the Moon, potentially leaving the US in the dust. A new memorandum has firmed up China and Russia's intent to lead the construction of a new lunar base, to be completed by twenty thirty six, as NASA talks

Them in every regard. But anyway, when.

You let's see, Russia has signed to deal with China to build a nuclear power plant on the Moon. The Russian reactor will be used to power the International Lunar Research Station the ILRS, jointly led by China and Russia, and should be completed by twenty thirty six, according to a memorandum of cooperations signed by the two nations. The announcement comes we just kind of read that one here.

According to a twenty.

Twenty four interview with Yuri Borisov, director General of Russia's space agency ross Cosmos. Yeah, on the Russian state owned news site THASS. While details of how this can be achieved remained unclear, Borsov added that the technology steps are almost ready. The station will conduct fundamental space research and test technology for long term uncrewed operations of the ILRS with.

The prospect of a human beings presence on the Moon.

Roskamoas wrote on in a May eighth announcement following the signing of the memorandum.

The new research station, a permanent, manned lunar base located on the Moon's south pole, has so far attracted seventeen countries to join the program, including Egypt, Pakistan, Venezuela, Thailand, and South Africa. Yeah. I feel like it would. Yeah.

I can see more bricks nations coming forward on this one, honestly. Its groundwork will be laid by China's twenty twenty eight Chung changey eight mission, which will be the nation's first time landing an astronaut on the lunar surface.

Wow.

The roadmap for the ILRS was first unveiled in June twenty twenty one, with China and Russias announcing they would lofty pieces for a robotic moon base using five super heavy lift rockets launched from twenty thirty to twenty thirty five. Once these basic pieces are established, China plans additional launches that will extend the base further, connecting it to a space station orbiting the Moon and two nodes located at

Be powered by solar, radioisotope and nuclear generators. Woo said.

It will also include lunar Earth and high speed lunar surface communication networks, as well as lunar vehicles like a hopper, an unmanned long range vehicle, and pressurized and unpressurized manned rovers WHOA. The memorandum comes at a time of growing ambition for China space programs. The country has had lunar present since twenty thirteen, landing the Change three's mission, which

There, both Merlin and Tony got y'all's hand raised.

Whoever wants to go first, go for it, No, right, Donny.

Yeah. I was wondering how is this nuclear power going to work if it's using steam or not steam? Because the reason they use steam on Earth is waters everywhere, but you can't have water on the Moon. And I'm trying to google around and see how else they can make it work. I've heard of something called nuclear thermo electric generators, but those are only good for like a couple of watts, and they must be looking for more

I might need your help on it, bro, because I've I've heard videos where these dudes pronounce it, but they also pronounce it where they thick Chinese accent, and I never really know if I'm doing it justice or not. So yeah shin whah okay? So the change three? Is that change three or chung e three?

Sorry? Yeah, chuned uh. It's two syllables chung u.

Chung uh Okay, not fair enough. You can't win them all, but I appreciate it. Uh Merlin, hand raised what you got?

Okay, So it leaves me to speculate what do they what do they think is on the Moon that's going to help them with the power plant?

Why do they need a power plant on the Moon? Where are they going to power?

Like they're trying to make a lunar space station and they need power to operate it. So they're trying to build a nuclear power plant to power their lunar research lab.

I guess I'm kind of what Tony on this.

You need water in order to make a nuclear power plant work, because that's all it is, is a steam turbine essentially. I don't I don't know what they're trying to do here because water doesn't do water things in space, so unless they're trying to use But even that, even with that being said, like heat heat rises, but the Moon doesn't have the same gravity as Earth, So how does heat react as far as that goes like a heat generator? Does it go up? Does it go out?

And what I've been like, what happens if something explodes.

On the Moon?

I guess we lose the moon.

I mean it's gonna stay accrescent for the rest of time, man, I mean I but even still like it. As I'm saying that, it's like, yeah, how many things have to go wrong to have a lunarture nobile?

But also like, yo, how many things have to go wrong?

Like could one thing go wrong and we have a lunar chernobyl situation?

Yeah, then the moon has such an effect on Earth, you know, gravity like everything. Yeah, like they say, it's in the perfect position for us to actually be functioning, so something severe like I don't know, like how much weight you would have to add to the Moon or how much weight you have to take away from the Moon for it to start, you know, shifting positions. But none of this seems like a good idea, Like Mars. I cant nderstand Mars.

It's really far away by all means, go be dumb, really far away from our homes.

I agree, Yeah, I get one other thing. I think they're just going to use lots of solar panels. I was talking to a friend of mine who actually works on nuclear power plants, and he says the reason they don't do any kind of nuclear stuff up in space, even it's been speculated in the past we could launch you know, nuclear warheads up there just to orbit, orbit until we need them. But there's also risk in just putting them up there in the first place, because what

And we've talked about that on the Cult Dude Operation Fishbowl, when the US government started launching nukes into the sky and blowing them up. Just I've tried, I have tried finding what kind of research they were hoping to gain, What was the reason for doing that. The best answer I can find is just to see what would happen. Like, I cannot find one actual credible scientist that was like, oh, we were doing it to test this or to see

So for them to.

Wow, for China and Russia to sign a memorandum to unanimously put a nuclear power plant on the Moon, there's so many questions, y'all.

And I mean it's not even like, oh, they're colluding, like whatever.

It could be anybody, It could be us, it could be us in the UK having this conversation, and the same questions would come into my mind. It's like, I don't I don't get it. I don't get it, Merlin, go ahead, all.

Right, So the fantastical part of my brain they sitting here telling me that maybe that movie, that movie moon Fall, where the Moon is actually like a space station, a really old space station, and they're using a nuclear power plant to somewhat try to jump start it, and that's why they picked the south Pole because that's where the plugin spot is. Okay, that's It's just nothing that really makes sense, Like you're gonna use a power plant to

And the moon tip generally always gets hit with shit. Yeah, like you've got all those craters for a reason.

Yeah, that's what are we.

Going to protect a power plant with on the Moon?

Yeah, I'm I don't know if this is them just trying to flex on other countries or if they're there is actually some sort of goal they're trying to achieve here, like something that we don't see just yet because we you know, we just don't have the mind for it yet.

But like I'm with you.

I just and even with solar panels, Let's say they were to make a solar farm on the moon, like same concept. The Moon gets hit with so much shit, so many media or so many asteroids, whatever, and it's not always big or small. There's no way you're gonna be able to repair those solar panels in space like you can only you only have the materials you brought up there with you. And I mean, I understand you have to be resourceful and figured out, but to what

Uh yeah, we can't do it because we've got other stuff going on.

And all of this was just to get people talking it's possible. I just I don't see it. Like you said, let's say it is because the Moon is some sort of ancient alien spacecraft or so.

I don't know.

I don't necessarily believe that, but I've read a lot of articles on the cult to conspiracy saying similar things, and if the are trying to use nuclear power to jump start it, that still begs the question. Nuclear power is to produce heat to create steam to turn the turbines, unless they have a whole new way of using nuclear power, like Tony was saying, maybe with heat induction. But even still, you're in space. Heat doesn't do the same thing there as it does here. So like I don't I don't know,

Bringing out with Yeah, thermoelectric generators have been used with nuclear material up in Arctic climate monitoring stations, but it's way simpler than a steam turbine. You know how thermocouple works. It's just when you put two dissimilar together and put them put you know, one end of the wire in a hot place and another in a cold blaze. It induces a voltage, but the voltage is really small. It's

There's no way that they could take a load. There's no way you can get ambage off of something like that.

Yeah, it's the kind of thing that's only good for weather monitoring stations out in the middle of nowhere, where you need something really simple that'll provide a really small amount of power. It wouldn't work on the Moon, though.

And that's what I'm saying, like to build and let's say that is their method. That is the nuclear power plant that they're trying to build, is something along like that, like, unless they've got some sort of a new way, more efficient way of doing that. And again, I don't know how that even though with a thermal couple like you saying, in space, does heat react differently? Does it do different

Well, I'm pretty sure the thermoelectric generator would work. It just wouldn't produce anywhere near enough power. And when it comes to steam, I think that would just be such an engineering nightmare that I don't see that working. But maybe they've already answered that question. But I've googled it and I'm looking at an AI summary and I don't trust it, and I'm trying to find other sources and

I'm with you.

I mean, even our moon getting direct sunlight like it does fine, cool, we watch the phases of the moon, not all of it gets direct sunlight as often.

Like, So maybe maybe with.

A super efficient solar panel you would be able to get and attain as much solar energy as you could while you had direct sunlight to where it would make up for the times when the moon is dark.

I don't know, but I'm with you.

I don't see a possible way, at least for my knowledge of technology. I'm not the all knowwhere here. I don't see a possible way where they could make a nuclear reactor on the moon work to power anything other than like to show it as a science fair project. They're talking about it powering the entire lunar lad that they're trying to put up there. I just I can't see it make sense in my mind.

Go ahead, Merlin, Well.

I just give it.

And there's ice on the moon.

Apparently there's ice on the Moon. I know there was ice on Mars.

Yeah, there's ice on the Moon and at the poles.

But you can't make steam out of ice. Again.

Look, man, we'll see how it goes. I mean, it's very possible. What's up, White boy, Wizard, Welcome to the Cage to Night Live. H we're talking right now about Chinese and Russian collaboration to put a nuclear power plant on the Moon by twenty thirty. There's an article we just read about that, and uh yeah, yeah, party time.

I guess we're gonna throw some bodies of water under the.

Ice, Okay, okay, if that was would have.

A heating effect, and then you'd only get so warm, but the top layer would stayte so cold.

Then we're in a vacuum of space, right.

I don't even know if we actually understand what the core of the Moon is made of. I've heard speculations to say that it's magma very similar to the Earth's, but I don't know that to be a fact. I don't know if it's just a giant, cold, dusty rock and like all the way through to the core, that's all it is. I don't know what to make of it, bro, I'm be honest with you. I appreciate the hell out of you for bringing it up tonight, though. That's that's gonna bake my noodle for quite a few weeks now.

But yeah, well same here. If there is ice, I guess they could make it work theoretically, and you know, it would turn into steam for their power generation step, and then it would condense back into ice. The thing about having a total vacuum is you can't have liquid water, but you can still, you know, sublimate steam.

So that.

Ice go sublime, and then using that vapor to power the turbans. But then even still the collection of that vapor to make it go back to a solid Mike odd like you said, yeah, good God almighty, maybe they will be successful. I don't know. I mean again, I

Well, I can actually answer this question. You sum up the heat of fusion with the heat of vaporization, which is a heat of vaporization is twenty five hundred kilodeweles per kilogram for water, and the heat of fusion is something maybe like a quarter of that, And the amount of energy it takes to get water from zero to a hundred celsius is four hundred kilojeweles per kilogram. So most of the energy is going to just vaporizing it.

But like sid, there's no way that that would be efficient. Right, we're talking about over one kilo jewel to turn just water to steam or ice to steam in the first place, there's no way that you're gonna get enough output off of a turbine to make that. You're not gonna get the output you need off of that. You're gonna take more input just to make it work. Then you'll get off of it to try to use it to power a lab.

I yeah, I would just use solar panels. Yeah, yeah, that's what I would do.

One hundred percent.

But again, China and Russia'll be doing China and Russia things, So who's to say. I don't know. Merlin, thank you again for bringing up that article. My god, that is fascinating. Uh, let's see. Uh, just thinking about that song y'all played last night that Yo. We are not going to play

Can't wait to get mine. I'm excited.

Uh let's see here, drink PAP's Blue Ribbon every single day. I think Paps as we're talking about, like the beers and things that were off that were on the list of bad things that we shouldn't drink.

If I'm not mistaken, PBR was not on the list. Oh perhaps blue Ribbon I do believe is safe for human consumption. It's a rough drink, but it's also it won a Blue Ribbon back in the eighteen hundred. So let's get the respect where it's due. You know.

Let's see if I was in Star Wars, mean, my friends would have Oh god, that's funny.

All right, all right, well we are getting ready. Oh yeah, how Hitler.

Is just like wop from twenty nineteen as as base an offensive as possible, trying to get attention. Yeah, one hundred percent with you, Tony. It's it's a grab. It's just an attention grab for Kanye to try to stay relevant. Although you know, I get what he's trying to do, but there were so many other things you could have done to get attention and stay relevant.

You just that's that's somebody doing the absolute mostess, you know.

But anyway, anyway, that's Hollywood for you, that's music industry for you.

It's a dirty place.

It's a dirty, dirty place with dead bodies and baby oil littered everywhere. Speaking of the Diddy trials and everything, Yeah, the most recent thing that I just watched about it that.

These people were like, oh they did what, They used.

A prostitute like a toilet, which like it's gross, don't get me wrong, but like that that's kind of expected. When you're talking about this level of disgusting behavior and then hiring a male prostitute to hook up with his wife while he watched in a cup chair. It's like, yeah, I that's not nearly as bad as what I thought he was about to say.

But again, more things are coming out.

Children are about to be brought in and implemented to a lot of disgusting things. I could already see the writing on the wall. It's it's gonna be bad. So yeah, again, the music industry and Hollywood disgusting places. That's where dreams go to die. But anyway, all right, didn't mean to end this on such a sour note. We have had

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