#968- Crimes Without Cameras Turkistans Genocide

and their people. Today, good cult members, we have Sali Hidayah on the show to speak on behalf of him, his people, the country where he comes from, brother, for on behalf of all of us Americans to you and all of the Turkish standing people. Welcome to the show. Absolutely. So when you reached out to us, you said that you were a Weager born to Turkistani correct, yes, okay. So for those that may not know what is a

Weiger Muslim? What is the differences between a Weiger Muslim as opposed to some of the other types that we might be more familiar with based off of mainstream media.

to Central Asia, specifically to East Turkistan. They are predominantly Muslim population, though throughout history have pretty much practiced every major religion out there, except for possibly Judaism, but other than that, every other major religions stretching from you know, Shamanism in the ancient past to Talentism to Zoroastrianism to Buddhism to Nestorian Christianity and then Islam has been the the the predominant religion of the Wars, starting in the

initially in the tenth century, but really became dominant after the sixteenth century.

there's so many of these other ones. I like Turjikistan. But I'm like, there's no way this is a dude from Turjikistan coming in. I didn't actually know where East Turkistan was on a map. You when you say central Asia, you mean like dead center of the continent of Asia. Like, no jokes on that.

but historically it used to be called Turkistan. So if you look at maps from you know, any anywhere from the five hundreds CE common era all the way up until really the eighteen hundreds, it was labeled as Turkistan.

Then East Turakistan began to become more distinguished from West Takastan, which by the eighteen hundreds fell largely under Russian the Russian Empire, So modern day West Turkistan is the independent nations of Kalzakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Zbekistan, Tajikistan, turk Panistan, so forth,

whereas East ta Kistan. In seventeen fifty nine it was invaded by the Manchu Qing Empire, which had invaded and occupied China a century prior, and then they invaded East ta Kistan and initially governed it as a military colony, meaning that they stationed Manchu forces to oversee the colony. But didn't you know, engage in the direct administration. They mostly collected taxes and so forth, and let the local principalities in East ta Kistan govern, you know, their internal affairs,

you could say. However, during eighteen seventeen fifty nine to about eighteen sixty three, forty two major armed uprisings against the Manchu occupation occurred, against magic colonial rule occurred, and in eighteen sixty four, Eastern Kistan was able to declare its independence or the people of Eastern Kistan declared their independence and established the state of Yattusha on November twelfth,

eighteen sixty four. And Yetushar in the Ilu language literally translates as the seven Cities, and that referred to these seven major principalities or major cities in Eastern Kistan. And this is a fun fact why Eastern Kistan later became occupied is that during this period there was something called the Great Great Game, which was a strategic competition, great power competition between the British Empire which was in South Asia and India today Pakistan versus the Russian Empire which

was in Central Asia. So this Great Game was essentially a strategic competition for the Great Game, which was Central Asia itself for Turkistan. And so the Russians, fearing that the British would use East Turkistan to apply pressure on the Russian Empire specifically over its colonial rule in West Turkistan, you know, essentially decided that it was best to support

the Manchu Qing dynasty in reconquering East Turkistan. So in eighteen seventy six, the Manchuaching Empire launched an invasion and in December of eighteen seventy seven they occupied East Turkistan, and a couple of years later, in eighteen eighty four, that's when they're like, you know what, we need to directly administer this territory. You know, we can't leave these people to to manage their own affairs. We need to

do that. We need to start this colonization. And so this is the first time that they tried to annex East Turkistan as Shinjong, which in the Chinese language shin means new jung means territory or frontier. And then the English Chinese dictionary from eighteen eighty six, I believe or eighty six or ninety six, it literally translates it as the colony.

the strategic importance of it? Is there some sort of a resource that could be found there that these colonial powers are trying to exploit to the best they could. What was what was the big push to control East Turkestan on that scale?

a buffer. But both sides knew that if if one or the other occupied it, then ultimately it would put the two empires right next to each other, and that is unacceptable for you know, empires, especially when they perceive another empire as a threat, so that's why they allowed the Chinese or the man teaching dynasts to to essentially

occupy it. And for the Teaching Empire, they also saw East ta Kistan as a buffer, you know, protecting the Chinese heartland from any potential invasions, whether it's through by the British Empire or the Russian Empire, because to enter the Chinese Heartland you would have to go through East ta Kistan first. So for them it was like a strategic buffer. And they needed territory. So they wanted to expand their having a rising population, so they wanted to

you know, secure a territorial buffer. So in eighteen eighty four, the Manchu Chin Empire formerly tries to annex East Pakistan as Shinjiong. The people of East Takistan actually resist continue to resist the Manchu Empire, engaging in several uprisings into the early nine nineteen hundreds, including nineteen oh five, nineteen oh seven, nineteen twelve. In nineteen twelve, the Manchu Qing dynasty itself was overthrown by the Chinese Revolution.

the Chinese Republic. However, in nineteen thirty one, the last vestige of Turkic you know, autonomy you could say, was the k was the Kumil Khanate. So the Kumul Khanates Prince Shahmsu died and then with that the Chinese warlords were like, okay, because the Kumul is like the major principality next to the Chinese border, next to the border

of East Ta Kastan and China. So that was what was preventing, you know, they were preventing effectively Chinese colonization from from taking you know, from fulfilling in East Ta

Kistan from becoming filled. So what the Kumul Khan abolished, the Chinese began to the Chinese war wars began to try to colonize East Turkistan with Chinese settlers, and so this sparked an armed uprising and by nineteen thirty two this spread out all throughout East ta Kistan to where in the south in Hotean a independent government was set up.

And then in nineteen thirty three it sparked, you know, the rebellion sparked all across the country and the different Turkic factions or groups came together and decided that they were going to unite and create a modern republic. So this is where the first East Takistan Republic was established

on November twelfth of nineteen thirty three. However, because of East Traakistan's proximity to the British Empire, which is in India, and because the Soviet Union across the border is occupying West Turkistan, the Soviets felt threatened by an independent East Turkistan because they thought we would get too closely aligned with the British and they thought that by us being independent,

this would you inspire the neighboring West Turkistan. Our people there are brothers essentially, are ethnic in to you rise up against the Soviet occupation. So the Soviets supported the Chinese war lords along with Chinese Muslim forces to essentially invade and toppled the Eastern Eastern Republic, and this happened in April sixteenth of nineteen thirty four. So our first

republic was very short lived. Though we had our own passport, we had our own armed forces, we had our flag and national anthem, we had everything that met the qualifications of the state under the Montevido Convention of nineteen thirty three. So we had everything that was required to be recognized as a state, and we even sent emissaries to India, even to the Soviet Union, to a Turkey, Germany and

other places to seek recognition and support. Then in nineteen thirty seven, after the Soviets, they placed a Chinese warlord named Shin Sei as the gun owner of East Takistan. And again East Turkistan was, you know, the facto autonomous in that session in that period, as in it was not tied to the Republic of China, nor was it tied to the Soviet Union. It was its own little entity.

we had an armed uprising which was very successful. It liberated the southern half of East Rakistan very quickly from the Chinese warlords, you know forces, to the point that in September nineteen thirty seven, the Soviet Union it could no longer you know, from its own It's seated as a security threat and could no longer you know, sit idle as you know, are we were making you know advances.

So it directly invaded East Ta Kastan and engaged in the largest bombardment campaign in Central Asia and in October of nineteen thirty seven, the uprising was crushed as shortly after that. It was believed that one hundred thousand people were killed during that six months of uprising, mostly by Soviet bombardments, air strikes, you know, from the air aerial bombardments.

And then Shen said, the Chinese warlord, he began to engage in a mass persecution to where anyone against his regime or anyone that they deemed were against his regime. So he targeted the native Turkic population, and over three hundred thousand people were arrested and imprisoned. Over ten thousand families were families all of their wealth and assets were seized.

So all of our rich people at that time, all their wealth was taken because they were you know, some of the wealthy families previously played an important role in the in funding the armed uprisings.

East Pakistan. And so the Chinese warlord seeing that, you know, our people are still you know, discontent with the Chinese rule and could potentially rise up any time, and without his Soviet backers, Shanks City is going to be weak, in a very weak position. So he formally aligns himself with the Republic of China or the Chinese nationalist regime.

And they in turn asked him to, you know, because he still has Soviet advisors in the country in East Turkistan, so they asked him to, you know, expel the Soviet advisors and you know, give oath allegiance to the Republic of China. So Shins say, does that. By nineteen forty three, the Soviet Union is actually winning the war. It's you know, gaining ground over the Nazis, and so Stalin he's pissed because Shins say not only you know, kind of like

stop him in the back. You could say, but the fact that we there was sporadic uprising, small scale uprisings and protests happening in East Turkistan. So Stalin decided that, you know, actually I could take advantage of this by supporting this these people in pressuring China for two reasons. One, Stalin needed uranium and other resources for his atomic bomb project,

and that's where that was found in northern East Pakistan. Secondly, again because major powers they don't like even if you look at today's conflict in Ukraine, the ongoing war in Ukraine, why is it because why is Russia? You know what? What what what does Russia claim that it's doing? It's because Ukraine is a thread or you know, NATO, if NATO expansion along its borders would you know, be a

threat to its security, et cetera. Similarly, Mongolia, which declared independence in nineteen twelve, was not recognized as independent, trying to refuse to recognize it, and China aim to continue to try to you know, regain Mongolia so to ensure Mongolia's independence was recognized, and it continued to serve as a buffer between the Soviet Union in China or else the Soviet Union in China would end up sharing, you know, thousands of kilometers of waters, which would again be very

difficult to to you know, safeguard or protect.

far as Communism's concerned. A lot of people. We talked about that as a matter of fact on an episode when we were talking about the space race during that time. It was right when the tension started to cool off, and by the late nineteen fifties China and Russia were back being super tight. But during the thirties, forties and into the early fifties, it was tumultuous at best for sure. So having a buffer state like Mongolia, they're kind of

tied in the middle. Either they're gonna side with China or they're gonna side with Russia. And it I mean it's literally you're trying to choose the lesser of two evils at that point. The same thing that I believe East Turkestan had to choose as well.

November twelfth, nineteen forty four. In fact, we could have declared it on November seventh, but our leaders at the time they wanted to wait until November twelfth to align it with the first East Turkistan Republic because the anniversary very cool. So initially we quickly succeed in liberating the northwest quarter of East Turkistan, so about twenty five percent of our territory we were able to quickly liberate from

the Chinese nationalist regime forces. However, the Soviet Union essentially after it, you know, the after it was able to persuade or pressure the Republic of China to recognize Outer Mongoli's independence. It forced us to engage in a in a ceasefire and engaged in peace talks with the nationalist regime.

So our president refused because he believed that, you know, there was no that the Chinese would never uphold their promises, and that this was just you know, these peace talks were just waste of time and we should continue seizing the moment to quickly liberate all of our country.

seventy six. Now coming back in April of nineteen in no In July of June of nineteen forty six, we are forced to sign a peace treaty with the Republic of China. The East Akistan Republic and the Republic of China signed a priest treaty in which the Chinese nationalists promised that you know, they would grab us autonomy, that

you know, we would be able to govern ourselves. They would seize colin ization, they would seize you know, they would withdraw their forces externally, like internally, we'd be responsible for all of our affairs externally, as far as the international community is concerned, like foreign policy would be left

to the Chinese. So the Soviet Union coerced us for stars to sign this treaty, this deal, and initially the Chinese regime they set up a puppet coalition government, provincial government in which we shared powers, and they were going to slowly implement the you know, the agreements conditions. And in response to that, in nineteen forty seven, China was drafting its constitution. The Republic of China was drafting its constitution.

So the leaders of the Eastern Kistan Republic traveled to Nanjang and met with Shang Kai Chek and said, Okay, we'd like you to one stop referring to us as shin Jiang because this is an offensive colonial term. We're not a new territory. Referred to us as East Turkestan what we've historically been, or just call us Turkistan. If you don't want to call us Eeast Turkistan, just call

us Turkistan. And then we want you to ensure in your constitution that that the promises of autonomy is written there, that we have autonomy per your constitution. And of course

the Chinese refuse. John Kishik refuses to this date. For example, and if you look at the Republic of China's constitution, there are specific articles that mentioned some autonomy and local governors for Tibet and Mongolia, which the ROC continues to claim, but there's no mention of East Pakistan or even so called Shinjong in that so.

Province by the the KMT Republic of China. So easter is actually one million, hundred and twenty four hundred eighteen square kilometers, which is roughly a fifth of what is now the PRC. Wow.

Actually we've had forty two planes that the United States had supplied the Chinese nationalists to fight against the Japanese and to suppress our uprising, our national liberation war. The Chinese had stationed those you know, brought those planes to East Takistan and we ended up capturing them.

part of Western Turkistan. So I just learned this today as a matter of fact, doing a little bit of research for the show. There was multiple nations that felt that if they would side with the Nazis during World War Two, then they might gain independence when the war wrapped up. And apparently it started off with God, I can't remember his name. He was from India. I want to say Pusan or something like that.

of these like German training beforehand. But you're saying that's not the case.

were captured by the Nazis ended up becoming POWs. And then the Nazis were able to turn a couple of their commanders, and those commands, and those commanders, you know, they're like, if we help you. You know, if you fight for us, will help you fight against the Soviet Union and get your independence. If not, you're going to die. So they weren't really given much.

anything of the sort. But like you said, this came from West Turkestan, not where you're from.

East Turkistan. And at that time, though the Soviet Union began to pull back all of the large scale military hardware that it had provided us, and much of that hardware, in fact, all of it, we actually paid for it in gold. So it's not like the Soviet you know, it was like here, here's some you know, hardware, here's some weapons, go, you know, fight to Chinese. Now we actually paid for it in gold, in uranium, in hundreds of thousands of cattle and sheep in exchange for the for those weapons.

nowadays to create this cotton. But back back then, this is this was the uh, you know, the Soviets they began withdrawing their advisors and all that, and they wanted to essentially Mao had Stalin had you know, kind of started entering into an agreement with Mao that you know, after you defeat the Chinese Nationalists, I want you to take over East Turkistan because the British are still going to try to use this territory to you know, put Russia on both me and both on China. So this

was Stalin's strategic thinking. And this is not you know, conspiracy, is there anything in that sense. There's public documentation of this, recently declassified telegrams between Mao and Stalin discussing this and so in by the summer of nineteen forty nine, the Chinese national Communists were you know, becoming victorious in the Chinese Civil War against the Chinese naturalists. So now there

was only one problem East Ta Kistan. If Mao tried to invade Easter Kistan, we still have a large military, we still have a government in place. We were going

to resist. And Stalin was afraid of that, and especially if this occupation of Easter Ekistan didn't happen immediately, because Mao's original plan was like I want to take Tibbet first and then work my way up and you know, take East Pakistan around nineteen fifty three, nineteen fifty four, but because Tibet is closer, much closer to China than East Pakistan. But some was like, no, the British are

right down in India. They're still there. Even though by that time India and Pakistan had technically gotten their independence, they still had influence. And again Stalan's biggest fear was that the British would utilize India Pakistan to you know, work with us and putting pressure on both the Soviet Union and Maos communists China. Right, it was like, you need to invade and occupy East Rakistan first, and you

need to bring the population. There's less than five percent Chinese living there right now, you need to bring that up to at least thirty percent if you want to hold onto this territory.

And this was apparently in August twenty fourth, nineteen forty nine, and then allegedly on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine, they're playing somehow a plan going from al Maati supposedly to Beijing to meet with Mao crashes over Lake balcol and all of them are declared dead. Of course, they don't declare that they're dead until months later, until China actually succeeds in occupying and overthrowing the government the East tra Kistan.

book called Special Tasks. His name pave Else for the Platau and in that in his book he wrote that the Easter Trakistan Republic leaders were indeed called to al Mahdi and after they were you know, after they refused to give up, you know, East to sign away and dissolve eastter Nkistan's independence, they were tortured for three days and told to you know, issue a declaration, you know that East Rakistan's independence is forfeited. We're going to join China.

And after they refused, he said, they were executed in al Madi. Then he says this thing, the plane crash was staged as a cover up. Sure to cover that up. So and then furthermore, in twenty fourteen, this is like almost like sixty plus years since this incident occurred. The CIA the classifies documents reports from those era and in

the CIA report. It states that the Soviet intelligence carried out a further assassination of thirty senior military and political officials of the East tar Kistan Republic in September of nineteen forty nine to prevent any effective resistance again to planned Chinese Communist vision. So on October first, nineteen forty nine, out of all the cabinet members of the East Kistan Republic, only one survived, the one who didn't attend the meeting in Almati, and he was the Education minister, and he

was essentially the Soviet Union's agent within our government. So they sent him to Beijing to meet with Mao, and on October first, nineteen forty nine, the Chinese Communists declared the People's Republic of China. Then eleven days later, on October twelfth, nineteen forty nine, they started invading eastter Ta Kistan, and then Soviet planes started airlifting Chinese troops into East

ya Kistan as well to facilitate the quicker occupation. And then on December twenty second, nineteen forty nine, the government of the East tar Kistan Republic was forcibly overthrown and it's military it's armed forces was incorporated into the PLA's fifth Army as the fifth Army.

Kistan Republic the Chinese government engages in. You know, there was resistance even though they killed off a lot of our military and political leaders, that are still resistance by other leaders and low ranking officers of our military who refused to accept the Chinese occupation and between the first five years, during the first five years of occupation, according to the Chinese government's own state media, from nineteen March of nineteen fifty four, they announced that the PLA had

since quote liberation because China calls this deliberation of East tar Kistan or the liberation of Shinjong as they call it. Of course, that theyally liberated it.

he became the topic governor of East Takistan. That was the agreement that he made with Mau and in fact, according to his claims and rumors what he told others, he had entered into an agreement with Mao to where the Chinese communists would help develop East Ta Kistan into a socialist society and then they would withdraw within five years.

And in fact, during those times, in the initial invasion, the Chinese people, the elder people in our country, remember seeing the pla, you know, marching with sllions and slogan saying, you know, we're gonna help, you know, defeat the foreign imperialist forces here. We're gonna help set up a socialist society and we will leave. Even in the propaganda videos from those eras, even in the movies you know that they made in the nineteen fifties and sixties, they stay

the same thing. You know, this is your land. We're just here to help you develop it. We will shortly.

So they merged. So that's one hundred and eighty thousand troops right there, and then there was about twenty thousand Chinese you know, administrative, civil servants, their families, et cetera. So less than two hundred thousand Chinese. And in fact, you know, in the documentation, in the letter that Stalin had written, he said, there's the Chinese don't even make up five percent. There's less than five percent Chinese here. However,

it's looking at historical data from that period. The Chinese didn't even make Actually, the more realistic number was they didn't even make up two to three percent of the population. And that's if we include the occupation forces, right, the sold their families that were there the Wars made up

over ninety percent of the population. So the Oars are the as I mentioned, the ethnically Turkic people of East Turkistan, who the non nomadic, the non nomadic Turkic population of East Trakistan who have actually been living there according to the latest you know, archaeological and genetic data. Because you might have heard things in the news reports like oh, ancient you know, white mummies of ancient China. You might have seen like that. So those are actually the ancestors of the Wars.

ethnic groups. Two main groups. One is the Indo European population and then the other is Northern Eurasian, which is the Turkic population. And they said the initial intermixing happened around anywhere from twenty three hundred to nine hundred years ago.

But the south is predominantly more Indo European and the waters or our ancestors have apparently been living there since the end of the Ice Age, so it was like an isolated population that's been living there since the time of the end of the Ice Age, according to the latest data.

these Muslims that were living in China. There were so many follow up questions that came off of that, like for one, why is there a Muslim population in China? I thought that they were very openly non religious as per the communist rules and things. Do you know more about the backstory of that incident?

So it's a Chinese paramilitary force. The best comparison of this would be like comparing it to the Dutch East India Company. So it doesn't answer to the autonomous region. It's completely independent from the local government. It answers directly to Beijing, and its sole purpose is to colonize Ease Cirkistan and to suppress any descent, any descent. So in nineteen fifty five, China mouth was like, you know what, I'll give you guys, autonomy, and the Chinese wanted to

call easter Kistan. They're like, because we're like, stop calling this, you know Shinjong. You know, we don't. We want our independence back. So males like, I'll give you autonomy, we'll call you the Shinjong Autonomous Region. So again that education minister, who's our the the facto governor, even though he's a puppet, he protested against that, and he said, autonomy is not given to mountains or rivers. Autonomy is given to a people, So you need to give autonomy to our people. Call

it lot autonomous region. Remove Shinjong. Mao refused to remove the Shinjong term, and you know, continued and said, okay, I'll call it the Shinjong Autonomous Region. Despite that, fifty one senior leaders of the so called autonomous region, senior leaders as in our own people initially we had some fake autonomy like that autonomy and paper. We still our officials still had positions, right, senior positions. So fifty one officials.

They sent a joint letter along with the delegation to Beijing rejecting the unilateral autonomy in nineteen fifty seven, stating that, you know, autonomy is not working out for us. We're completely different people. We're not Chinese. You know. You guys are you know, abusing this autonomy to try to colonize our plan. Your forces are engaging in massacres of our people. This is not acceptable. We want to restore our independent

East aar Kistan Republic. Right, And so Joe and Lai who is the essentially the you know premier at the time, like the prime minister, you could say, He's like, yeah, I'll discuss this with now, because that's who they were able to meet. You just go back on and I'll follow up with you. When they came back, they were all perched when they came back to East Turkistan.

and the Soviet Union. Our leaders at that time were remnants of you know, the survivor and leadership of the East Tarkistan Republic, including military leadership who still held positions as you know, high senior level positions in the Autonomous government, the Autonomous region government. They started to you know, take advantage of this to use the pretext of a pending Soviet invasion or an impending Soviet invasion to literally arm

our entire population. So officially, the Education Minister was the chairman of our government. The vice chairman was the political the general of the Political Affairs Department of the East Trakistan Republic's National Army vice chairman, and he was also the deputy commander of the so called Shinjog Military District, which is responsible for all PLA forces in East pa Kistan. So, using the fear of that the Soviets are going to invade us because they're a kind of a couple of

border classes happened. They were able to arm our population. And I remember you, my grand my parents, my grandparents talking about this, how they had an opportunity but This is during the heart of the Cultural revolution. Everyone is literally starving. You know, people are dying from you know, man made fan and by maw right. So and because they can't openly stay oh, you know, start fighting against

you know, the Chinese invaders. They use code words like, you know, free yourselves from the you know, the the the pigs that have infested your lands. Free yourselves from those who are enslaving you. You know, shoot and kill, kill the dogs and the pigs. And our people literally

took that literally instead of understanding the real meaning. And then by nineteen sixty nine, the Easter Exton People's Revolutionary Party, which is it was a Marxist part party created by you know, our members of our government to take advantage of that, to try to solicit Soviet support, but also to push back against, you know, because China is a communist state. And they're like, oh, we're not you know, we're not imperialists. We're not you know, colonialists. We came

to liberate you. We're like, okay, we're in a communist

Marxist party too. What you're doing is textbook imperialism and colonialism, and we are here to liberate our people from your Chinese colonialism and imperialism, so they were preparing for a large skill armed uprising, and unfortunately Chinese intelligence networks, spies and informant within our own people led to this organization being you know, uncovered by the Chinese intelligence and then the leader in nineteen of nineteen seventy, it came crashing

after a failed, you know, premature attempt at an armed uprising, even though it's supposed to be delayed a little bit because of Chinese intelligence, became premature, and so they crushed one faction or one cell of the organization. And then in May of nineteen seventy, the Chinese intelligence had learned that it was indeed the vice chairman of the so called we Were Autonomous Region, who was also the deputy commander of the military district. He was in the head

of this organization. So they arrested him and they executed him in a military hospital after torturing him, and then with that the entire organization dissolved. Then there was periodic resistance, you know, mostly protests and some small scale you know, armed activities against Chinese PLA forces throughout the nineteen seventies. In the nineteen eighties, it was actually, a lot of people have been person In nineteen seventies, a lot of

people have been in prison. So by the nineteen eighties, some of these people are coming out of In the sixties and seventies, a lot of people had been in prison. So by the nineteen eighties, some of these people are coming out of prison. So one of those people is like my own, my father's uncle. He had he had been arrested in the sixties in trying to create too, in trying to mount an armed uprising against the PLA, And so my father never got to know his uncle

until he came out of prison. So these people that are suddenly coming out of prison, they began teaching the younger generation. So, you know, we used to have a country, we used to be independent. This is what happened, this is why we were in prison. And so they got all excited. You had a bunch of teenagers trying to

engage in our armed uprisings in the eighties. And you know, like even if you look at Chinese intelligence reports, most of the mass protests and attacks against Chinese military compounds were carried out by teenagers as young as twelve years old. Up to seventeen eighteen. My own my own father, he got he got kicked out of school because he he went around town in our hometown and putting up you know, flyers at night staying you know, Chinese invaders get out

of my country. So he eventually got caught and he got expelled from the school in the ninth grade. So that was as far as his education went. Then the Soviet Union nineteen ninety, the Soviet Union began to you know shake and splinter. The last actual armed uprising in Eastern Kistan. Major armed uprising occurred in April fifth of nineteen ninety and actually they were planning since the nineteen eighties.

Since late nineteen eighty eight, an organization was being formed to called the Eastern Kistan Liberation Organization, modeled off of the original Eastern Kistan Liberation Organization of nineteen forty three, which led on to create the second Eastern Kistan Republic, and its goal was to you know, restore the independent

Eastern Kistan Republic for the third time. But again Chinese intelligence began to use its informants and they figured that out by nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety, and so they also had to prematurely organize, you know something, even though their preparation wasn't ready. So it started off as a you know, they're like, let's at least try to do

this peacefully. Let's try to organize a peaceful demonstration. See see how they respond, because we don't want the international community to, you know, think that, oh, we're just out here to do something crazy. See, let's let's show the world that the true nature of China. So they organized the peaceful demonstration against the mass sterilizations and abortions in

of our of our women. There were two hundred plus abortions in one township and in Bodern and so they organized a demonstration and.

the justification to engage and open armed uprising. So they took over the government compound and then in response, the Chinese government sent over twenty thousand troops. Even though this entire the township, like the five towns around it combined population is about ten fifteen thousand people, so they used overwhelming force. They sent air strikes because initially they sent the convoy of people's armed police forces of them and they got ambushed and their weapons were seized by our forces.

Good the rebel. Then they realized that if they got into a you know physical land in you know, firefight, they were going to lose. So they resorted to helicopter gunship attacks, bomb air, aerial bombardment, and artillery strikes and you know, kill thousands of people. Officially, China claims that only you know, several dozen people died, but.

to April tenth. They crushed it on April tenth, then immediately they began to they were by the end of April tenth, they claimed that they arrested seventy six seventy six hundred people connected to this uprising because while that uprorising was happening, people in other parts of the country heard about it, and they were trying to engage in mass protests in support of the uprising. So that was the last major uprising.

so forth. So this led to you know, cooperation and coordination between our people in Daspor and those in East Turkistan, and we began to you know, advocate for independent independence openly on the international stage, but explicitly making it clear that you know, our struggle is solely about national liberation and you know it's not about you know, extremism or anything like that. But China was going to start propagating, in fact propagate that until after. So by nineteen ninety six,

several mass demonstrations occurred across the East tra Kastan. More and more people started calling for an independent Eace Turkistan. Large scale acts of civil disobedience began to occur, and then there were you know, small raids and clashes with Chinese security forces and Weiger militants in the East Takistan

and along the Kyrgyzstan Kazakhstan border of East Traakistan. So in response to this, China's uh polt Buro Standing Committee, the Central Committee, the top seven members of the of the of the you know, top seven members of the cc HE they held the top secret meeting in March sixteenth of nineteen ninety six in Bejing on stability maintenance in Eastern Kistan, and their Chinese Premier President or the head of the CCP, Jngsan Men at the time, he

highlighted that national separatism was the biggest threat to you know, Chinese control over Eastern Kistan and the CCP's control over China as a whole. They accused in the document, they accused the US counter revolutionary forces led by the United States of supporting separatists to engage in sabotage activities against China.

So that was that they the ten point directive to crush our independence movement, and that tin point Directive, which is called Document number seven of nineteen ninety six, included everything from boosting, you know, ramping up Chinese military forces in East Tarkistan, you know, settling more Chinese colonists into East t ra Kistan, to engaging in propaganda infiltration, winning over most of our diaspora organizations to China's side, and

then marginalizing and eliminating those who refused to give up on independence. To using all means this is the most important. Moon used all means necessary to prevent the internationalization of the East Tarkistan problem.

that is this is insane. Like this isn't like some sort of a thing that's like super you know, this isn't like a conspiratorial thing that like you don't really know much about. Like this is this is something that's very open source. At this point. It talks about intensified

religious controls. Interesting it says the document mandata that the shutdown of unauthorized religious schools and quote unquote underground mosques and increased state administration over all religious communities and activities to ensure they remained independent of foreign control. And by foreign they mean organic East Turkestan, but by China's definition

that would be foreign Okay. Reinforcement of security. It called for wholesale reinforcement of military and security preparedness, including strengthening public safety, national security, court and judicial branches to effectively fight separatism and quote unquote sabatine opportunities the quote unquote

Strike Hard campaign. The directive coincided with the launch of a severe Strike Hard or ya Da or Yanda campaign across China in April nineteen ninety six, which was specifically extended to jin Chan to target ethnic splittists and illegal religious forces wow. This campaign resulted in thousands of arrests

and executions and then the transitional repression. The policy also included directives to strengthen investigation and study outside the border to prevent outside separatist forces from making these so called Eastern Turkestan problem international. This has been linked to the long term strategy of transitional repression against the weaker diaspora. Again, this is all open source. This is this is something that any of our listeners could go and look up

for themselves. This isn't you know, it's some sort of a fringe theory. This is by their own emission exactly what they were doing.

reported in nineteen ninety six. This is what the puppet chairman of the Autonomous Region at that time stated. So what does China do? China also co opts governments, not just our diaspora community, but governments, especially in neighboring Central Asia like Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, as well as you know, Turkey. Because all of these countries are ethnically Turkic, we have

a large daspara community. There are the Asper independence organizations, many of them are based in these countries, So China co ops them and you might have heard something called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. This was after Document number seven.

This is when China sets up the Shanghai Cooperation Organization initially known as the Shanghai Five Organization, specifically with the intent to fight against the three evils of so called separatism extremism, and then they later added terrorism after you know, nine to eleven.

stuff like that, headlines, yeah, highlighting our independence movement. And at that time, China began to after Document number seven, especially starting in nineteen ninety seven, China began to state that, oh, this is not an independence movement, this is a global jihadist movement. This is you know, they're these these weaker separatists are linked to global jihadis like al Qaeda.

ethnic separatists or ethnic spluidist, national separatists, et cetera. But co conveniently, while many people are being arrested, certain islam mist extremists, this is the Chinese government's terminology, are being let out of prison while the nationalists are being in prison. And guess where these people, these handfulists, like not even like a dozen of them are released. We believe that they were Chinese intelligence operatives actually, and they are sent

off into Pakistan. And if you know anything about Pakistan and China's relationship since Pakistan, you know, since the nineteen fifty China fifties, Pakistan and China's relationship is an all out whether ally partnership. Yeah, there are allies and everything. So this group of people led by Hassan Mahsum that's his name, they end up like less than a dozen ubars, end up initially traveling to Beijing. So you really wouldn't let.

public information as well. You can literally Google it and type it in and you'll be able to see it.

pressuring those governments to suppress them. They carry out a bunch of assassinations many of our leaders are killed and then the handful of w wars that under Hassan Mahsum in Pakistan, they start creating propaganda stating that you know, we established the East Turkistan Islamic Party conveniently modeled off of the Pakistan Islamic Party, and that our goal. God doesn't ask you what you're doing for Islam. I mean what you're doing for East Turkistan. God is going to

ask you what you did for Islam. Nationalism is bad to be focusing on nationalism and trying to create an independent state. We need to fight against the global infidels and create a global Islamic caliphate.

to prevent the internationalization of the East Kistan problem. So what better way to do it than because Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise in that era, is emanating from Pakistan and Afghanistan, and global governments are like, hey, Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise, this is going to be a serious threat. China was like, this is my you know, opportunity to wipe them out. In fact, the Guardian in its nineteen ninety seven report article it states in nineteen

ninety six Wigers leaders separatists. It says Viager separatist leaders met with the State Department. But China has been increasingly trying to link Weiger separatism to Islamic fundamentalism, and Western experts believe that this is a deliberate attempt in order to undermine the independence movement and to deter any to prevent you know, international sympathy and support before the causes is even known in the international community.

kind of crazy for a couple of reasons. Right. I mean, in the early nineties, anyway, we were kind of getting in cool with China. We had a decent trade relationship held Joe Biden ak China. Joe, there is speeches that he gave where he was telling the American people that we need to climb even deeper into bed with China. So if anything, they were trying to do whatever China wanted at that point to try to make better trade

deals happen. So the fact they would write that down there, they're basically grasping any straw that they can to make it look good on paper that what they're doing is justified in whatever way they can exactly.

movement is about. Our organizations in Central Asia repeatedly made, you know, issued joint statements saying our cause has nothing to do with Islamic fundamentalism. It's solely about national liberation. This entity does not you know this these group of people. We believe these are Chinese agents. Yet our nationalist leaders that are being picked off one by one assassinated while this islam ast part is driving and fun thing. Fun fact is and you can find this it's public information

as well. In February of nineteen ninety eight, the Pakistani Isi, Chinese Ministry of State Security, the Chinese Intelligence and the Taliban. They hold a trilateral meeting in Kabul in nineteen nine. In February of nineteen ninety eight, and they're Mola Omar, the leader of the Taliban, he reiterates, the Chinese are like, we want you to promise you won't let you know viger separatists, et cetera. Use Afghanistan as a base to

attack us. And he's like, of course not. And so China began supplying the Taliban with funds, with technology, specifically through Huawei, and you know, start helping them, you know, also in many ways through Pakistan.

Of course, this is Chinese intelligence operation because if you look at Directive number eight, it specifically states, in document number seven, it specifically states on point eight, divide engaging dialogue with overseas groups, divide divide them marginalized, those who refused, you know, the hardcore supportors, those who refuse to give up on independence, and these groups they're not They said, God is not going to ask us what we did, you know, for East Turkistan. God was going to ask

us what we did for Islam. So our goal should be to fight against the entire you know, global infidels starting from the United States of America. Literally, this is what they said, startings of America, because again China needs to portray that, you know, vigers are connected to terrorism, international juadis, it's a threat to everyone's country. So all other countries needs to support China's efforts to wipe out this independence movement.

evidence that China will use in the coming years. Then this group, you know, they aligned with also another group called the Zbekistan Islamic Movement, which was set up the same year. Actually because and many people believe that it was set up by the Russian intelligence because Azbekistan refused to allow the Russians to have a base to maintain

to keep having a base in their country. So coincidentally, after you know, Zbekistan refused, an Islamist group claiming to you know, vowing to overthrow the infidel government of Zbekistan and replace it with an Islamic government conveniently pops up in Afghanistan, and of course they invade. They actually this group actually invades Kyrgyzstan, which is right across the border. And then the Russians are like, hey, we can mediate this for you. We can help you defeat these groups

if you allow us a base. And of course they're like, all right, those countries forces are not exactly up to par, so they're like all right, and the Russians airlift those I amu Jihadis back to Afghanistan. They still need them for their future plans, so they did, oh no coming back. So by nineteen ninety eight, the independence movement in Central Asia,

the legitimate independence movement, is killed off. In Turkey, the Turkish government literally sells us in exchange for weapons and missile defense technology from China to where they starting in nineteen ninety seven, they enact a Beijing First policy, and they issue a secret directive in nineteen ninety eight even banning even because in Turkey they referred to us as East Turkistan historically, because we're ethnically Turkic people and the people there, you know, support us.

or so. So Turkey sells us out quietly. And then in two thousand and one, this is when Uzbekistan was the only one that refused to join the SEO up until then, the Shanghai Five, and then after the Eye I Am You and the ETP, they merge in in May of two thousand and one, and they merge, and they rebrand their merger as the Turkistan Islamic Party with the goal of establishing an Islamic caliphate in the whole of Central Asia. So China then says, see, these weaker

separatists are threat to all of your national securities. They're not just a threat to me. We have a common enemy. So they bring that into the fold. Then nine to eleven happens. Nine to eleven happens, and immediately China's like, we're a victim of East Turkistani terrorism. We've been fighting

terrorism for decades. And then on November twenty six of two thousand and one, at the UN Security Council, China's like, we have been a victim of the East of East Turkistan terrorist forces led by the ETIM, the so called East Turkistan Islamic Movement. This is the first time ever that they mentioned that entity. And the reason they mentioned this is because one they wanted connected to al Qaeda,

global jihadism, et cetera. Two they want to demonize all our entire independence movement and under one go by it.

we'll label them as such. And this was as part of the quid quote pro China would not veto the US's entrance into Iraq, the US invasion of Iraq, the US would recognize the so called e T I M. And so when the US did that, China immediately turned that propaganda and said the internally into our people and said, the United States recognize your independence movement as a terrorist organization because again ETIM, remove the Islamic, replace it with independence,

you get the same thing. Remove independence and replace it with Islamic, you still get ETIM. So this was the one thing that China use capitalized up ever since, and then by two thousand and three, two thousand and two, they had virtually killed off our independence movement as a whole, to where even saying East Turkistan became criminalized, Like if you even use the words East Turkistan, you were a terrorist. This is the way that they wow.

luckily the US in two thousand and twenty. On October twenty twenty, d LISTED removed the ETIM from its terrorist designation because the US is like, this group doesn't exist the Chinese. There's no group ever calling itself the ETIM. We've always relied on China on this, but there's no group calling it that. However, the GIP is a different group.

The US was like, we viewed the TIP as a different group from the ETIM because China is abusing this so called ETIM to delegitimize and label allwigers as terrorists and this is not acceptable.

Chinese occupied territory. There is currently Chinese occupied Mongolia, Tibetpaul Hell. India and China they get in a fistfight over border disputes. It seems like once or twice a year they start bringing like clubs and shit because nobody's willing to fire a shot at each other. But that's side conversation. But yeah, China has been on this kick for quite some time. And then if you look at what's going down right now in Burma and Meanmar or excuse me, used to

be Burma now it's Meanmmar and their civil conflict. And you also look like what's going on in Thailand and Cambodia. I wouldn't be shocked if China doesn't use this as an opportunity to start pushing into the borders of those countries for you know, border security and for the betterment of Southeast Asia. They'll they'll listed in propagandas at all they want, right, So.

serious in the last five years than ever before. And I'm thinking that as a result of that, the East Turkestan conversation can also get taken pretty seriously as well, I hope.

And in that lecture he highlights he states that China has the capabilities to take Taiwan now, but there is one thing preventing it from doing so. His two major things, but one is more major than the other. And he said, he asks, you know, his he's briefing Chinese military officials intelligence of Fistles, and he asked them, you know, what do you think it is? And they all throw out

different things, and he's like, you're all wrong. The real problem is the East Turkistan problem, because if we were, he says, if we were, it's.

the PRC. We are the corner. I'll get into the Belton Road initiative in a little bit. We we make up over forty just around forty to sixty percent of China's coal reserves. Thirty percent of their oil and natural gas reserves are from East Takistan. East Turkistan's you know, provides oil and natural gas to twenty different Chinese provinces.

We power over one hundred Our electricity powers one hundred and twenty major Chinese cities, including Beijing, Shanghai, to Guangdong, to chang Qing, to all these major Chinese cities over one hundred and twenty of those across China.

He states that the US and other nations could team up and implement a blockade and we would not be able to sustain that. So this is why we have to solve the East Turkistan problem immediately. On the surface, he states, we're going to play it off as counter terrorism. Of course we know that's not true. He states it openly, and you can find this on YouTube. It's available on YouTube. It's not like you know something that I'm throwing out

there on YouTube. And he said, this is how we're going to play We're going to play it off as counter terrorism. Of course we know that's not the truth. There's you know, the universal truth is much more different than that, but that is what we'll play it off. In fact. Then he goes on rants about praising Osama. But he goes on ranting and praising Osama bin Laden, stating that if Osama bin Laden hadn't kept the United States busy for the past eight years, meaning from two

thousand and one to two thousand and nine. This wouldn't have given China the opportunity to develop because the United States would have focused on China instead of Osama bin Laden and we would not been able to develop. So he was like, if the leadership had asked me, you know, I would have given awarded Osama bin Laden. I would have invited him as an honorary guest to the Olympics

last year. This is this jet and he's he later became the general, the head of the Chinese National Defense University. His name is Daishuo. So he's stating that, so they're already planning, laying out the groundworks for this. In fact, if you look at satellite imagery analysis of China's concentration camps in Easter Kistan, the excavation for much of it was started in twenty ten twenty eleven. Shortly after this, twenty thirteen, Chi Jinping comes to power, and what does

he unveil the Beltlin Road initiative. He says, this is you know about connectivity, ensuring trade, you know, connecting China to the world, and you know, helping other countries develop, et cetera. When in reality, it's part of China's war preparations, preliminary war preparations, and that's why they're trying to control

every major major you know, seaport, landport. This is where East Turkistan is extremely vital, because without East Takistan, there is no Belton Road initiative, right like you can't have the Belton Road initiative without that. So obviously China's fears even if we try to initiate this, potentially other countries might try to you know, create you know problems here. So we need to eliminate these problems.

rounding up people. But of course China can't do this without you know, a legal justification, a terrorist justification, because to over the past decades, the international community has not buy been buying. It's more fighting against terrorism narrative.

she and Arduwan discussed Syria and trade. Then two months later, arduwe goes to both East Takistan and the end of China, and again the headline is tard one is engaging to discuss Syria and trade cooperation on Syria. So what does Syria have to do with us? Literally has nothing to do with East Turkistan. But for China, this is the perfect opportunity get rid of anyone that has the potential to resist when you're gonna start rounding them up. Two,

there's jihadis fighting in Syria, there's isis in Syria. You push these people over there, some of them, you push them into those groups. Now you have a just terrorist justification. What does Turkey benefit from it? Turkey needs cannon fodder because it's not Turkish soldiers that are fighting against the said regime. It's not Turkish soldiers that are fighting against the curtains in Syria. It's jihadist from all across the world dying for you know, essentially as you know, proxy assets.

And so this is the all in one, as the Chinese call it, the wind wind solution to both Turkey's problem and to China's problem. So, starting in twenty twelve, they start propagating jihad in Syria inside East Pakistan, and the Chinese intelligence pretends it's not aware of this. Then they gather thirty thousand people estimated of twenty to thirty thousand people and let them leave. If they left them leave through Central Asia, it would be too obvious, right

those countries there because they're part of the SEO. They have all the bordering countries, whether it's Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, all of them have agreements. They will immediately deport anyone Rus that tried to flee into their country, that try to come into their country, they'll hand them over to the Chinese immediately. That's part of the seo's agreement.

of the CCP checkpoints. What that's crazy.

with his elderly mom and you know wife. They drove four thousand kilometers to Beijing with the Shinjoan license plate and that then it's it's yet somehow it still managed to enter Beijing, which is virtually impossible because you can't even leave East Turkistan without hitting checkpoints. And these guys had like you know, explosives and stuff like there's you know, the reason they're in Beijing is because Chinese intelligence allowed them to there. Yeah, they're in Chanman Square is because

that was part of the false flag. And so immediately they do that and they're like, oh, China's like we're victim of terrorism. You know, wigers are fleeing off into Shiria. You know, we have a terrorism threat. Yeah, still is not believable enough.

thirteen and me being a conspiracy hit. I'm always referencing Tianaman Square one point zero, and then you'll still have people to this day it's like, yeah, it wasn't really a mass sacre like people say it was, you know, some college kids, but like nobody really got arrested, nobody really got shot. And I'm like, dude, there were piles of bodies. They rolled tanks over the bodies. Yeah, I

don't really believe that. It's like, so you believe the word of the CEA EP over eyewitnesses, Well, how accurate are these eyewitnesses? How do you know that's not the propaganda? It's like, sure, dude, anything to side with China. For some reason, people go with that narrative. It's crazy.

Shinjan license plate into the heart of Tiama Square. There's no way, especially when you have to stop for gas all these different things and you have you know, you have explosives in the car, like what you know.

you're allowed to buy. You have to you have to show your national ID card and they write down how much gas you're allowed to buy.

listed from Shinjong, you can't even find anything checkpoints. You know, you'd have to cross dozens of checkpoints to go from East Kistan to Beijing. So that's one thing. Then in April, no, in March of twenty fourteen, because again what route is China using. It's using Vietnam, Thailand to let these wigers out, So obviously those countries own it, like Thailand's Vietnam's intelligence is going to be like, what the hell is wrong?

You know, how are these weavers being smuggled out? So to make this operation look like it's something else, that the eigers are just doing this by themselves, that they're mysteriously you know, they're traveling thousands of miles somehow magically evading dozens of checkpoints and ending up in you know, Guangdong and you know the border areas with Thailand in Vietnam.

So once this is happening because there are reports, especially there was an incident where Taiwanese, uh not Taiwanese, Vietnamese border guards you know, shot some wigurs trying to come into Vietnam. So China's like, oh, shaid, our operation is about to be ruined, So what do we do? False flag? They dress up, you know, they have a bunch of people dressed up in black cloth carrying a black Islamic flag engaging in a knife attack at a train station.

And immediately this is done by viager terrorists. This was their ji hot flag. They were going to you know, jihad, et cetera. That's still not enough, the national community is still skeptical. Hijinping travels to East Takistan in April twenty eighth of twenty fourteen, and this is where he gives that famous speech. Absolutely, show no mercy, Lock up those who need to be locked up, Uproot them, root and

branch and destroy them. This is this is where he gives that eighteen yeah to twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen fourteen April twenty eighth of twenty fourteen.

the plate plane to Beijing. Less than two hours after his plane takes off, a suitcase bombing happens at the train station in the room chie and immediately China's like, this was done by we were terrorists. And the video that they show is just some persons you can't even see their face, just walking in with a suitcase, leaving it, walking out, so you don't know who the person is.

Could be a Chinese intelligence officer planning it leaving. Boom explosion happens, and China's like, this is we You're terrorists doing it clearly, And then the tip which has been holding Afghanistan and Syria. After the Syrian conflict erupted, they released a video claiming responsibility, saying, yes, we claimed responsibility for that, we did it. That's still not enough because a lot of Western experts are like, this doesn't make

any sense. Why the hell, Like, especially in the last year compared to then the history of this conflict, Why are weakers all of a sudden, you know, carrying out indiscriminate attacks, knowing that this is what would benefit China, knowing that it would undermine their cause. Why would they do this? Like prior to that they would always focus on, you know, Chinese military and security targets. Why is this all of a sudden happening? And so you know they

were like this, there's something off here, still skeptical. So in the middle of May, they carry out another false flag bombing, this time from a suv. Again, nobody knows who dropped the bombs, who threw out the bombs. It just happened at a vegetable market. Again only you know, in the area, in the vegetable market area in the predominantly Chinese to part of town. And then immediately after that,

China is like, we have a terrorism problem. We have to strike hard against terrorism, and they launched the so called People's War on Terror. That's the official euphemism for the ongoing genocide. And China's own white paper from September twenty twenty stated because they denied that they were committing you know, they denied that they were sending people to

concentration camps, et cetera. But by twenty nineteen, when the world's got everything and we could literally see those camps on satellite imagery from Google Earth, China's like, oh, well, we sent one point twenty nine million people every year starting in twenty fourteen until the end of twenty nineteen to vocational training and re education centers. But now they've graduated, they've they've found most of them graduated, and they found jobs. The forced labor factories.

intelligence operatives or assets. Many of them, I believe we're just you know, average naive US who legitimately thought that you know, because they were getting they went on promises that we're sending you out so you can receive training and you will come back one day to liberate East Rakistan. That was the narrative that they were fed. But of

course when they went to Syria, they were decimated. And China just keeps their existence only for propaganda because every time to this day, the TIP has never carried out any actual attacks against Chinese military or security personnel to this day, not one.

or they died from some disease. It's not us. We didn't we didn't kill them.

have been given jobs. And these are the that are being enslaved forced labor. Three and a half million of them are being a slave. This is the Chinese governm. It's own data, China's own judicial data. We're not talking about the extra judicial, because all of these concentration camps are extra judicial. China's own judicial records show that five hundred seventy eight five hundred wigers have been given prison

sentence to up to life. And so you might think that's not a whole lot, like like, let me put this in perspective for you. Five hundred and seventy eight thousand, five hundred wiguers we Wars, the whole of East t kuist On, China claims, doesn't even make up two percent of the total population of all the areas under the control of the PRC. China's judicial data shows there's roughly one point five million prisoners in China that are judicially imprisoned.

highly incarcerated as the Wars. So that's that. Then, China's own state media reported that between twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, under the guise of free healthcare checks for all programmed, the Chinese government collected the DNA samples, voice prints, and retina scans of thirty six million people so called ethnic minorities,

meaning those who are not Chinese. The Chinese labeled all nine Chinese peoples as ethnic minorities in East Turkistan between the ages of twelve and sixty five, so thirty six million people between the ages of total sixty five, their voice prints, DNA scans, retin scans, the DNA samples, retinan scans have been collected. What I was trying to do it we'll come into that in a little bit. On top of that, the Chinese government carried their own records.

Health records shows that they carried out the forced sterilization of over three hundred thousand women. We wore another Turkic women whoa again that that might seem like a small number. Then their own state media also stated that since nineteen eighty nine when they implemented the one child policy, so once they started implementing that up until two thousand and nine, So from nineteen eighty nine up until two thousand and nine,

what's that. Yeah, during that thirty years, they said that they prove empted UH three point seven million illegal births amongst the ethnic minority populations in so called Chinjong in each Takistan, So three point seven millions of our babies were forcibly aborted or killed over the course of thirty years after two thousand and nine. We don't know. I would I would say, based on the previous data, I would say, add another million babies that have been potentially forcibly aborted.

I mean, I think it would have to be like potentially.

of this project. Remember I said they collect they studied the DNA, the DNAs of Wigers over a thousand samples, and they were looking for, you know, genetic abnormalities or what you know, common these most you know what, genetic or health problems, most weak shared. So one study found that about seventy five percent of your wars out of the thousand and one, four hundred plus samples, all had one problem, one same problem. They had weak livers. They

had livers. So the medication that treats tuberculosis, and even at that time point, we have the highest TB rates in the whole of the PRC tuberculosis rates. So the medication that treats tuberculosis, you give it normally, it's supposed to treat you. But if you keep giving it to someone who has a weak liver, that's gonna cause liver failure and they're gonna die.

you know, from tuberculosis. In one camp alone, over a period like a period of like six months, there was over two hundred deaths or one hundred and fifty deaths in one camp alone. And no, there's fourteen hundred concentration camps or vocational training centers or re education centers across the East tra.

per year. And many of these people, like wealthy Arabs from the Middle East and other Muslim countries, are traveling to China to buy halal organs, meaning organs from a Muslim who hasn't you know, consumed pork alcoholic central Where else are they going to get that?

sure that it is a halal organ. So, of course, if you're in that market and China has this massive situation on their hands, oh my god. And we've talked about that so many times, the Chinese organ harvesting trade and black market organ sales coming out of China, it makes perfect sense that that's skyrocketed around the time of the Wakers. And that's again you're talking about organ transplants

and organ shipment in the market itself above board. This has nothing to do with the underground black market organ trade that there is happening obviously throughout this country.

And then at the same time, China began expanding crematoria across East Trakistan, building crematoriums. And you know, we bury our dead, we like we've there's no history of us ever, you know, burning are dead, like that's not something we ever do or ever done in our nation's history. I think as Muslims, you have to bury your dead.

been killed specifically for their organs. And he says, but I but again it could be much much higher because again the organ transplant data shows that, you know, it keeps increasing, so you know, and he's saying, like I did this very conservatively, assuming that you know, China is also taking organs from other prisoners, from other ethnic groups and other you know, religious groups, et cetera. Sure, so

this is from that. And then China's owned Chinese police military folks who you know later escaped and you know, came to the West, some who served in those They said, there are people dying, you know, they we we literally kill these people there, We leave them there to die, especially the men. Because again, what is China worried about population? Well one population too. If war breaks out, resistance happens, is gonna fight, who's going to be the main manpower?

So this is one thing. And they secretly transferred at least half a million Uger men out of each circustan to prisons ross China to hide this. So you've probably seen those videos of yours. You know, we were men blindfolded with their heads shaved and you know, being escorted onto cattle trains by you know, Chinese Chinese police wearing

you know, swat uniforms. So those are indeed happening. And then on top of that, the Chinese government is trying to forcibly coerce our women, you know, they're forcing our women to marry Chinese men. There are literally ads in Chinese provinces where they are. You know, the Chinese government is saying move to shin Jong and especially targeting mails, we will give you a job, well paying a job two three times the salary of what they would receive

in China. Uh. You know, a government one time, you know, eighty thousand un which is roughly about fifteen twelve, fifteen thousand dollars cash in hand, free land, free housing, and we'll even find you an ethnic you know, local ethnic

minority wife. So they're coursing and there's numerous events where you know, they hold like this is not individual weddings, they hold mass weddings where like at least groups of thirty forty leiker women are forced to marry Chinese you know men at once and China as oh, we're promoting ethnic unity, We're urging. What they're trying to do is essentially breed us out.

of over a dozen European countries. The UN, because China has a lot of influence at the UN, the UN was reluctant, you know, coerced into not calling it a genocide. But they even they said, oh, you know, it's still crimes against humanity. Even though they didn't use the term genocide, they acknowledged that at the very least, it's crimes against humanity. Yet despite all this, you know, nothing is being done. So and our issue really died off after COVID came.

Immedia stopped talking about our issue. COVID happened. Then it Russia invaded the Ukraine, and.

twenty two there were protests in China against the COVID lockdowns. Right, yes, no one.

out the fire on time. Dozens of wars died. And seeing that the Chinese people are like, we don't want to end up like those wigers, and so they came out took to the streets protesting for the you know, to end the COVID lockdown, not not not to protest against what was happening, to the course.

where it's like set at zero. Now. Our growth rate, you know, normal population growth rate sustained, you know, to sustain and you know double is like two point seven percent annually. Ours, especially in the last ten years, last twenty years, especially in the south, was fifteen to twenty percent in some parts. So we're we were making a lot of babies in some parts, and so China was fearful of our growing numbers. So what does China say.

There's twelve million with yours and with the combined with the other three and a half million Kazakhs, kur Ausbics and whatever, there's fifty million Turk ethnic minorities and so called Chinjah and he's focused on that is the official number. And what is China saying? We are not committing genocide. There's no evidence of us killing these legles. You won't find anything. We're not We're not committing genocide. Their population you know, it's growing, they're they're still you know, they're

they're they're alive. We're not committing them. So essentially China under the guys of counter terrorism. If they continue doing this by you know, they could have even achieved it by now, God only god knows. They could have wiped out two thirds of our population without the world not even knowing.

critical minerals are located. So they're not going to want to give it up. And this is why they're doing that. So they're enacting all of these policies, and so our fear is that they are trying to reduce us to the official you know, fifteen million only population, and by doing so, they could potentially kill off two thirds of our population without you know, the world doing anything about it.

family make it out? What? How did you fall into this as far as the representative for the country, Like, how did all this come to be?

in a few months. And I grew up into a Weiger. I was born into a Weiger merchant family. But not only a merchant family, but like my family had a history of opposing the occupation throughout the past.

And so he ended up fleeing to Europe initially in nineties, in ninety seven, and then ended up in the US in nineteen ninety eight and applied for political asylum here, and then in two thousand he was able to get the US embassy in Beijing to help reunited. So the problem was even at that time, getting passports, as we wire, is very difficult for the normal average Chinese citizen. You apply, you apply, you pay like what fifty sixty you know, US dollars you get your passport for it was it

was virtually impossible at that time. You have to you know, if you had money, you know, there are some ways to you know, bribe officials to get it, but you would be paying thousands, Like I'm talking about five six thousand dollars just for one passport.

uh failed. So my father he was able to get the help of the US Embassy in Beijing and the US Embassy in Beijing is like, all right, either you can issue them a passport or I will issue them travel documents and I will take them. Either way, the choice is yours. And so the US helped us really not with my father. So it was me, my older brother, my older sister, my younger sister, my mother, and yeah,

my father was living in Oklahoma. So and June of two thousand of two thousand, week came to Fort Worth in Dallas, Texas, near Dallas, Texas, and then drove up to Oklahoma. And so my father had a very I would say he had the greatest impact in my upbringing, in my you know, my advocacy might cause my life mission absolutely so immediately.

forget your people. Not so you could forget your brothers and your relatives, you know, and uncles, but so you could become educated, and so you can do what I couldn't do. So you can become educated and return one day to liberate our homeland and our people. So this is your mission. This is why I brought you here to the US. Always remember that. So that was that. So since like literally after the drive, that was like

the very first thing. And so he began to teach us our history, which is bare, you know, because even talking even uttering the word East Trakistan in East Pakistan is a crime, right, But everyone knows in their heart, we know our country's name is East tra Kistan, but we can we can't say it. We know we used to be independent country, but we can't see it, even

the little kids. Even when I was in East Takistan, I would hear the elders, you know, always talking about how if the Russians hadn't screwed up things, you know, for us, we would be we would have been independent and for a while. To be honest, like I thought the Chinese were the Russians because I didn't know the difference until, you know, because I'm like three four years old, and yeah, you hear these things and you're like.

finishing up high school. So when I became a citizen, I finished up high school and then so I was like, all right, let me just do R O t C. So I did R O t C. I started R O t C and then like literally as I started R O t C, I guess some of the are instructors, uh, you know, were the guardsmen. So they're like, oh, well, if you want to, if you want to, you know, set yourself up to become a better you know, be more respected when you commissioned as an officer. You know,

you want some experience, do national guards? So I ended up joining the Oklahoma Army National Guard, trained at for Benning my.

And that's what I did. And in twenty sixteen, when I was finishing up my bachelors, this is when the election cycles happening. You know, everyone's like, oh, we need

to be tough in China. So I wrote my My bachelor's capstone was essentially a policy proposal titled refining the American Grand Strategy from Central Asia to the Wagers, and so I in that I pretty much highlighted that our people were facing a genocide, We're facing orlonization, and that the United States needs to actually work with the Waders too, you know, pressure, pressure China, And that was my capstone. And so to help in one of my professors, I you know, I asked her, you know, can you can

you help me, you know, send this? I said, if I'm going to do this, could you help me with you know, sending it to you know, different think tank government agencies and you know, perfect it. So it's you know, professional, not some you know amateur, yeah, reporter or something. And so they're like yeah, and she was like yeah. And so with her help, I was able to send it around. And by twenty seventeen, I started losing contact with all of my relatives in East Arkistan. Oh no, because they're

slowly being taken into the camps. And one of the reasons for being sent to re education to why you're you know, because if you're not trustworthy, that's what they do. They grade you on trustworthiness. So one of the reasons you're not trust deemed trustworthy is if you have contact with anyone overseas or if you traveled overseas, So if you have any relatives overseas and even contact music, even if you spoke to them on the phone. M oh.

Another reason is if you have relatives overseas as well, you're not just worthy so fully, our relatives were being taken one by one.

And that's how it is North Korea. That's how the guilt trip you to never leave is because they let it be known that if you make it out and you try to start a life somewhere, all your cousins, your aunts, your second third cousins you never met before, are all going to be in that kind of situation, it's absolutely horrible.

like New York and so forth. So and the existing were groups, all of them, you know, especially after two thousand and four, our in our movement went from advocating for independence in East Turkistan too. We just want genuine autonomy and human rights under China. And of course this is not a natural it's not a movement doesn't go overnight like that on its own. Refer to Document number

seven Directive EATE and you'll understand why. So this is this is what happened to our movement to where again, even in the diaspora, no one's calling it East Turkistan, no one's calling our country's name its own name, our own organizations, for God's sake, you know, like these we're fighting for human rights. So I tried reaching out to them,

and I said, we need to highlight our plight. We need to you know, ask the US to at the very minimum, treat us on the same level as Tibet, like introduced a weaker policy.

movement phase, they have a national awakening movement movement. And so that's how we ended up, you know, partly with my professor through the name, but I found a couple of other you know, young with wars and Kazakhs from East Kakistan who like myself, grew up in the West, and so we started, you know, there were in other parts of the US, but I started you know, communicating them with online, with them, many of them through Facebook,

and so we had built a network. And so initially we were calling it like the Weaker Youth something, and then I was like, you know what, let's call it the East Pakistan Nashville Awakening Movement, because we need to awaken our people, we need to awaken the world to the reality of East Pakistan.

videos for five or six seconds, this is longer than this type of videos. This person's weakness is this. This is how we get them. And then you know once it has that data on you. Because mind this the Chinese government back. I don't know if you remember in the two thousand and like fifteen six time period, maybe a little later than that, but somewhere around that time, there was like an OPM Officer Personnel Management hack the Chinese.

So they hacked literally into the files directors of all government, anyone that was employed federal government.

for them. So they look at your weaknesses. So whatever weaknesses you have, like whatever you do on your phone, like you think, okay, I'm not using the TikTok app, I'm doing something else. You have, you know, you have your private life, You have different things, like god knows what people do on these phones, but there's a lot of different things people are doing. Well.

grow up. They're gonna end up, you know, working in different you know, not all of them, but many of them are going to end up working in different industries, whether it's the tech industry or even in the federal government. And so China has all this data and you know, they track all these people and whenever they need someone, they're like Okay, this is this person's vulnerability, this is what they like, This is how we can get to them,

this is how we'll shape them. Because like even when I started, for example, when I started, like our own organizations in the diaspora, many of them were viciously against me, against me even saying Eastern Kastan, even calling it a genocide. And I was like, what the why? Yeah, yeah, I was like what the fuck? You know, like, excuse my language.

own people were my own people. Are organizations, are human rights organizations proviciously against me. And I was like, what the hell, even though I have no beef with them, I was like, okay, like you don't accept my way, Okay, fine, do your own thing. I'm not against you. I'm not here trying to, you know, really replace you or compete with you. I'm just doing what I believe is the best.

no government's acting upon it, so there's no need. If they act upon it, then they'll they'll go for for the kill, like the way or if you know, if there was something meaningful happening, then they would go Like if I was if this was the nineteen nineties where I was in Central Asia and I was rallying thousands of people and you know, planning and aren't uprising, Yeah they would they would go fill the kill.

troops there. Yeah, you get that one shooting that just took place, and rip to the National Guard soldier that lost her life. But I have never seen the city more safe overall than now, which is insane.

to ban we were forced labor products. But after COVID and then after you know, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, our issue like flew off the the radar unfortunately got pushed out by other conflicts. Now coming back to I like what the Chinese. You know, we were talking about the what the Chinese might do. So what they did is so initially they try to buy me off, like we'll give you, you know, if you want money, we'll give

you money using my own people. Again, using my own people, some who I thought previously were you know, leaders of

my people. Less yeah. Yeah. Then when that didn't work, they started to make open threats, you know, using social media and using their followers, they began to create you know, disinformation against me, like, oh, he is a drug addict, he got you know, he got kicked out of the army for being a bad soldier, all this type of he's a drug dealer, all this type of ship like like things that have you know, zero truth to it.

But of course many people don't know who I am, and I couldn't speak my own language as properly and as effective as I can now, you know, because I had it interacted with my own people for a very long time.

million people, right not h that's insane. I mean I might you might think me, oh, that's you don't care about your family. Of course I do. But the only way to save my family permanently and sure save everyone is save everyone. Yeah, at the end of the day, if they're not coming for them today, they're going to come for them tomorrow. Anyway, even those I told them, even those, even you your own families right now, you're

you're cooperating with the Chinese. You're betraying your own people despite what's happening, and you think that you're protecting your family members there. Even when they're finished with us, they're gonna come finish you off too. Even you're the most loyal of youth servants, you traders, They're gonna come finish

you off too, because that's your endgame. It's not just about targeting, oh, those who advocate for independence only and then you know, letting those who don't advocate for independence survive.

then this is what happens. A couple of weeks went by after this incident, and then as I'm pushing for a Weaker Policy Act, I go into the US Congress and this is the conspiracy part. We're pushing for a Weaker Policy Act, and I come across numerous congressional offices were like, we remember signing on to something like this years ago, and I thought this. I thought this was like me, first time I'm ever doing this, you know. And then I was like, all right, they're probably confusing

us with the Tibetans. Let's move on to the next office. Again. We had drafted a twenty eight page policy you know, Wager Policy Act, bottled it off in the Tibetan Policy Act, and we're trying to hand it to you know, I'm trying to find this sponsored. And finally, after a week of us doing this, you know, several weeks of this went by, and we reached one off we reached four offices. That's again say the same things we remember signing on to something like this several years ago. So I was like, oh,

this is after the fourth one. I was like, this is not a coincidence. They're not mistakens with the Tibetans. So I was like, do you remember who sponsored this bill that you're talking about or who's leading this bill? And that office was like it was Congressome the ross lettinhand. So immediately I look up on my phone ross Lettenhan. I was like, all right, let's go to her office. Immediately after that, we go straight to her. I go straight to her office. I send the others to continued

like the others on our team. I was like, you hit up the other offices. Let me let me go figure out what's going on with the Ross Latinhan. So when I went there, I'm sitting there like I asked to meet with her foreign policy, you know, Stafford, and I'm trying to explain to the foreign policy start for like fifteen minutes, and they're still not understanding what the heck I'm talking about. So I was like, all right.

Finally the congresswoman herself comes out because she left her door open and she was apparently eavesdropping on our conversation or I was very loud. Possibly I was very loud, maybe both. And so she comes out and she's like, are you with the same weaker organization? And I was like like what, and she's like the World week in Congress. I was like, no, no, no, no, I have nothing to do with him. Those are the ones that are you know, I've been trying to buy me off and

sabotage my advocacy. So then she was like okay, good because I don't work with the irresponsible people. I was like, WHOA, what's going on? Like I was like, I'm very confused. She's like after the two thousand and nine rumci massacred. I forgot to mention that in two thousand and nine there is a massacre that happened after protests. So what initiated this protest was China, even at that time, was forcibly transferring our youth to work as forced labor in

Chinese cities. So hundreds of wigers have been transferred to a toy factory in Guangdong. And this is why YouTube is banned, is because these weaker laborers, forced labors are paid very low compared to the Chinese, if anything, very low, and so the Chinese company decided to fire, you know,

some Chinese workers. So the Chinese workers that got fired, they spread rumors that the Vigers tried to rape you know, the Chinese a girl in female employees at the factory, and a mob of thousands of Chinese workers armed with clubs and you know different you know, pikes and stuff, stormed the dormitory of that factory where the wagers were.

The am and they you know, engaged in a brutal you know, attacks against them, to where dozens of them were killed, hundreds were injured, and all all of this was put up on YouTube by who, by the Chinese attackers themselves, stating that, you know, oh, look at how many wagers I killed. And after that, our people in East na Kistan saw this and they were outraged, and so they organized the peaceful demonstration in asked carrying the Chinese flag, asking for you know, an investigation and justice

and accountability, and what does the CCP do. They were a bunch of separatists, terrorists and they kill everybody in a massacre. And so I did that. That made some headlines in two thousand and nine, and so the US Congress was like, to our existing human rights groups, let's do something for you, like what we did for the Tibetans. Let's try to help your people and our own groups.

Because uh refused because the Congressman rust Latin hand Congressman Russelton, and she was the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee at the time, the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She was from Florida, and this was her telling me this. If anyone else told me this, I would have not believed it. But This was her telling me this. I would have not believed that. If if I heard it from anyone else,

I would be like, no way. And she's like Congressman Donald Worabacker, he used to doing the Soviet during the Reagan era. He used to be stafford for Ronald Reagan, so he knew about Soviet Union. He knew about Turkistan more than anyone else. So in that bill that they had drafted, the Weaker Policy Act, he used the term occupied East Turkestan, and he's like, we're not going to call it, Shane Jong. We're going to call it occupied

East Turkistan. It and our own human rights groups were like, no, no, no, no, no no, we can't call that that. We can't use this term this, And she said after and I got she said, I got like fifteen co sponsors for it. And I told him, you know, go go grab some more, go get some from the Democrat side because she's Republican, and let's let's introduce this bill. And our own groups sabotaged it for

two years. They repeatedly ignored her, their calls, their messages, their emails, and so immediately after hearing that, I'm very pissed. You can't imagine how pissed I am. And I told her, I told her, look, we have nothing to do with those. We are a young generation of Wigers. You might have seen us. We've been out there in front of the White House, in front of the US Capital at that time. We were doing both protests, demonstrations from nine am to

five Monday through Friday. This is in June of twenty eighteen, and you know, going in door to door, you know, engaging an advocacy, trying to get an office to introduce our our you know, our bill. Right. So I'm super pissed. And I was like, all right, at that time, who was the leaders of these organizations? And I know one,

which is Rabia Kadir. So I go to her and at first I said, you know, how's anyone in the US, whether it's government, Congress, anyone come to ever before about you know, introducing a weaker policy or some kind of legislation for our people. She's like no, no, but I could tell she's kind of lying because she was kind of startled by the question R And I was like, look, are are you sure. She's like no, no, nothing like

that happened She's like, why are you asking this? And I was like, I heard something from a congress woman And at first she denied it. Luckily, Congresswoman Russ Blatinhanna and I we had she had taken an official photo with me, and I had taken a selfie with her on my cell phone. So I the picture. She her face drops and she's like, oh, I must be getting old, right, I'm sure you know she's in her seventies. So I was like, okay, and you know, she's like, I must

be getting old. Yes, it's slip. And she's like and she confirms what happened. But she's like, you not talked about this.

this cost us. If that bill came out in two thousand and nine, even twenty ten, that could have cost us. You know that, I was like eight nine years, eight nine years where China couldn't have committed genocide against us.

live stream. So I was like, all right, can you at least tell people to support, you know, our demonstrations, to do similar demonstrations and you know, in their host countries to try to raise some awareness. She's like that I can do. I was like great. I was like, all right, let's do a live stream Facebook.

what she said, and this is the things. I repeated everything she said, and I was like, if I remember correctly, you were the head of the w C at that time. And then she's like, well, I didn't have a you know, translator. I must have mis heard things. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. You could have called on our people. You could have said I needed a translator. Our people would have dumped their you know, their their their money. My father, my father,

because my father used to be her biggest supporter. I mean he was slave working two jobs in Oklahoma. We we grew up like this is a part of me that you know, I'm actually not ashamed of saying it. Like my father, God blessed this man. The level of patriotism in this man, Like we didn't have anything new. Everything we had was used, even in our clothes. The only time we got anything new clothes was once a year on the ed holidays. He would buy us new clothes.

Everything else from our shoes to her, our jackets, everything else. We would buy a groag.

to serve as my translator to Bush. So I don't know if she actually fully translated what I wanted said to Bush to President Bush. And so this is the one. They all knew about it, she said, they all knew about it. It was because again the East Takistan issue, because China doesn't like this, doesn't want this you ever mentioned. And then she's like, after she blurted that out, because from everyone who knows that picture of her with Bush. There's one other lady in that picture, and everyone knows

who that person is. She today, she masquades as an activist, continues to masquerade that life, but everyone knows who that is, and they dominate our diaspora, just like their family in East Ta Kistan used to dominate even the autonomous region. So this is this is the sad thing. Then Ribio was like, oh, I'm getting tired, you know, let's just end the here. And I was forced end it. I couldn't keep pressing her. I was like all right, And then she's like, they will destroy you. You messed up.

They will destroy you. And I was like, let them try.

many languages. I studied political science, I studied this, I studied that, you know, trying to make herself appearing and I'm just like, you know, I told you we're not interested in working with you. Could you kindly leave? And she's like, I'm waiting for Rabia. I was like, Rabia, that has nothing to do, you know me, Like she's not even here, Like what she's like, Rabia told me to be here. So I called Rabia refuge is that call?

Like picking up? And she just sits there and I'm like, if I touch this person, Like in my head, I'm like, if I touched this bitch, she's gonna claim that I assaulted her. Of course I'm a I'm in a very fucked up position right now. I was like, can you leave? Please leave? I asked her nicely several times. Then she touches me on the hand and she's like, I heard you don't like she does this. I heard you don't have a girlfriend, you know. Oh yeah, And she's dressed

up very provocatively as well. I've got to mention that part. But I knew as soon as she entered that this was this was a trap, but I didn't know who the trap was being set by. You know, I didn't think of that, and so I told her, you know what I said, it's because the people like you, traders

like you, that's the term I use. It's because of traders like you that millions of my people are in concentration camps right now, millions of our people are suffering right now, and you're over here shamelessly trying to serve the Chinese and their interests. I said, get the fuck out of my face. Yeah, I said, I don't want to ever fucking see you here. Get the fuck out

of my face, you bitch. And I yelled it so loud that because we work in an office works space area, the others and the neighboring office is heard and they're like, what's going on. I said, this person is annoying me, she's leaving, and so she left.

this is what this person tried to do. I said, who the hell? And she's like oh no no. And in my head, I'm still not thinking about, oh, this might be a trap from the day before, you know, the threat. Several months ago on apparently she filed the police report claiming that I threatened to kill her and that I was working for the FBI, the CIA, Turkish Intelligence. Of course, clearly, the police report also claimed that I engaged in anti Asian hate crime and anti Islamic hate crime.

the police report was dismissed. Then it was reopened again in August. So I went through a review and then it was like, oh, this is bullshit. Then it was reopened again. Then they changed them bullshit and added anti Islamic hate crime and you know, anti Asian hate crime, and then threats to do bab harm and all this other bull crap. Like I was like, what anyway, I

still don't know about this. Then oh, by that time, I've been repeatedly calling out China's false flag, the et IP tip because they're still playing this propaganda game, trying to lure your wars into Syria, even in you know, twenty eighteen. So I explained our people. I was like, this is a false flag. This does not benefit us. We have no fucking nothing to do with Syria r. This is the justification China is using to legitimize its genocide. Don't be dumb, don't fall for this trap. You know,

use your brains people. So they began, you know, threatening me, like they call me an infidel, all this type of shit. Sure, then September tenth comes, September tenth, it's September tenth. And then as soon as it hits September eleven, like midnight, guess where I start receiving calls from.

I wake up, it's like six thirty am. I wake up and on my WhatsApp there's like three different Afghanistan numbers, all of them with like a bunch of audio messages, like and I'm not talking about one or two, I'm talking about like dozens of audio messages.

Let's just leave it in die like I don't want to go into detail that there were some folks giving us advice, et cetera from behind the scenes, and so I forwarded to them, to one of them, and that person was like, do not go to the White House today. Don't do your daily demonstration there today. Just stay the funk away from the White House while I try to figure out what the fuck is going on. Right, So this person was trying to protect me, and then so I don't go like I wanted to. I was like, no,

I have to go. And it's like, Folly, like I'm telling you stay the fuck away from the White House, Like you receiving these calls. This is not some random bullshit Like I'm gonna try to figure out what's going on until then, Like, don't even go anywhere near Washington, DC, you know, just stay the buck away. So I don't nothing happens. The next day, I go in front of the White House and it's not just me, it's a

bunch of other wikers as well. Like we do. They like daily demonstration about an hour so we're protesting in front of the We're not protesting, we're demonstrating, protesting against the genocide, trying to raise awareness.

from the White House. I think it was like a couple of minutes, like five minutes maybe six minutes drive. Then I repeatedly asked for a lawyer. By the way, oh sure, I was like, I want to lawyer, And they're like, oh, if you don't have anything to you know, Hi, if you're not afraid of you, you shouldn't be afraid to talk with us, you know, we just want to figure out what you know.

a fucking genocide. I was like, at that time, the official figure that was actually cited by the US UH ambassador to the U was eight hundred thousand at least eight hundred thousand wigers have been taken into the camps. I said, at least eight hundred thousand of my people are in concentration camps. China's committing genocide against us. And they were mocking me like, oh, you know, it looks like the Nazis are back. Huh like this type of.

hand that feeds him. I was like, come on, like, you can't. You guys can't be this dumb. I was like, y'all are the fucking FBI, you know?

hired a private investigator. We found out who brought this everything from who brought this woman to the US to when she arrived to whose fucking house and basement she was living in through their own testimonies, you know, because they thought when this private investigator went around asking, they thought the guy was working for the government or something.

So they all testified to their own shit. And I handed that to the FPAH, we like our lawyers handed that and I'm like, look, just as I suspected, because I told him, I suspect this is a Chinese intelligence operative, because this is what's going on. And then they kept trying to coerce me, you know, to just her a plea deal where I will only receive six months in jail. And I was like, plead deal for what? I didn't fucking do shit. You know. I was like, where's one evidence?

I said, I told them, I said, they're like, you called her. I was like, find it. You have my phone records, you have my phone records, find her number, find one evidence. Give me a fucking recording that I called her, and if you want to execute me, I'll gladly accept it. I said, find out for me. No, no, no, no no, Like they kept postponing, kept delaying, kept all this for three years, three years straight. They tried to

They tried to scare me. You know, they're saying that, oh, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't accept the plea deal, we're gonna charge you with you know, cause they're terrorist. Bullshit. Didn't work because I didn't fall for their bullshit trap. You know. If I had said one fucking thing, oh yeah, we we I think those are our soldiers or some shit right there, I've been gone,

that would have been. But I knew. I knew this was all a fucking trap because that night, you know, like I didn't sleep throughout that whole night after that, like, after that interrogation, I was like, what the fuck, trying to figure out who all was involved in it? And I was like, fuck, this was the response from July tenth. This was that response. Yeah, and it literally it was. And this is how I found out about Document number seven.

It was actually an FBI counterintelligence officer who's going to testify on my behalf that as I suspected that this woman was a Chinese intelligence operative and this is what China does. He was the one who told our lawyers, you know, there's a document the Chinese have actually instructing shit like this, and he told our lawyers, and that's how I learned about Document number seven. If this didn't happen to me, I would have never known about Document number seven.

Not only is there a genocide going on, not only is it being completely covered up not only does our government know about it, and they're doing nothing to stop it or even acknowledge it. For the most part, the people out here that are doing the good work to try to get the word out there, if for nothing else,

just to bring awareness to it. They literally on some conspiratorial level, are throwing spies at you to trip you up, and then our government is questioning if that's reality, and it's this is my mind blowing dude.

my country, that's it. I don't care about that. Like I'm willing to sacrifice my entire family for it as well, Like I'm not going to give up on that because this is the way my father raised me, you know, like he like God blessed the man, so he was like you have to be able to sacrifice everything, even us, if that's what's going to save our country.

we changed our mind. A couple of weeks go by and they're like, oh no, we changed our mind. We're gonna charge you with anti Asian hate crime.

to pressure me to accept. And this lawyer was actually someone that, you know, one of those advisors had recommended. And this lawyer himself ended up his father was like some CIA you know, officer or some ship.

making progress. Then finally, now it's two thousand and twenty one, the end of two thousand and the US is already recognized the genocide, by the way, like like.

law myself. You know. I was like, something, this fish is here, right, So I told my lawyer, you know what, like, fuck you, dude, you should have gotten me a speedy trial, one, an actual fucking trial. I should have had a trial years ago, right. I was like, I'm going to fire your ass. I'm going to go talk to some lawyer, other lawyers, and I'm going to go to the media. I don't give a fuck at this point, I said,

I don't give a shit. At this point, if they're going to arrest me, charge me with whatever crap, I don't care as long as they give me a trial. If if, if the jury hears all the evidence and they decide on whatever. If that's if that's the case, and if they decide to sentence me to death, I'll accept it. If not, screw this. There's there's some bullshit games being played here. I never thought China's influence was that powerful in the US government, but apparently it's it's power.

government and they insisted on playing this game. But anyways, after that, all this because we have all this records, right, physical records, because every little thing you get a record. But on the website you have you know, the PDFs. It shows that you went to status hearing. Everything that's said there is made into a record and uploaded as a pdf. Guess what happened on the website. All the PDFs are missing. It just says status hearing, status hearing.

But the documents here have been completely erased.

the government, or which you know, corporations. It's cecha are involved with this family, and we're talking about a large pharmaceutical company where her brother works as a senior director.

meet with him. They would try to sabotage all my you know, contacts in the US Congress, try to det me as some you know.

know anyone that has faced this? And I was like, bro, you're talking to the guy like you won't believe the shit that I've been through, right, And this was dropped in February, in January of twenty twenty two. In February twenty twenty two is when we started. I started talking to him, and even he tried to request the government, the FBI and others to give you know, the records,

the police records, the interrogation records, all of that. They kept refusing, They kept extending their time, right and then refusing to give it up. And he was like, Bro, this is like the most weirdest shit ran into And luckily I had all this copies because if I didn't have these physical copies, no, virtually it's gone. But if I didn't, if I hadn't kept these, it would have

been very difficult. So I you know, scanned all of this and sent it to him and he tried to reach out to those people, including that woman, and she claimed she had COVID.

they fucked up on that part. That's where they fucked up is because they mentioned the fact that she was a volunteer at that we your organization, and that weaker organization, you know, is has a lot more connections than I do.

We will specifically went from ninety percent to less than you know, if we buy China's if we buy into China's narrative official statistics, to less than forty six percent, we are being you know, completely wiped out in slow motion while the world doesn't do anything. And unfortunately governments, despite the recognition, despite you know, valance of never again, they are refusing to act. And because China, you know, is one economically and politically powerful too, we're economically to

inter to reliant on China. Like for example, President Trump was trying to put tariffs on China and then China was like, oh yeah, well fuck you, and they what do they do they're like, we're not gonna you know, we're going to ban the sale of critical minerals to you, the export of critical minerals to the Western countries, right, And the US made the dumbest mistake by opening up the China and giving China, you know, control of you know,

all of the critical mineral processing to where now, because critical minerals is used in everything from weapons systems to you know, phones, to computers, to anything electronic to if we want to survive in the twenty first century, you need critical minerals. China controls seventy percent of that.

If it was solely because we were Muslim. Then you have ten to fifteen million Chinese, ten to fifteen million Chinese Muslims, yet nothing is happening to them, right because it's simply because we're not Chinese. It's because China wants to continue its colonization and essentially wipe us out. So for us, that is the root. To address meaningfully address the issue, you have to address the root, which is

Chinese occupation and colonization. So we're urging the international community, especially you know, governments like the US, to recognize this as an occupied country, support our right to self determination under international law, and then to you know, take meaningful actions that you know, we're not asking the US and others to, oh, start supplying us with weapons and this is now, We're asking you to do the bare minimum under international law, the bare minimum of your obligations, which

is actually try to you know, hold China accountable for the crime of genocide. Uh, you know, through international you know, at least through the same level that the US has been you know, putting pressuring Ukraine. You know, from the economic political perspective, I'm not I'm not even getting into

the military party. From that perspective. You know, that's all we're asking for now, because the time will come and never inevitably China is going to get into a conflict with the US or another bigger power, and it's just a matter of time. Yeah, it's going to happen, I believe in the next decade, if not sooner, I hope.

been shot at or been in a gunfight. And I'm not saying that they didn't have quote unquote impressive weapons and tactics and blah blah blah. They were so arrogant that they genuinely believed that they were gonna blow through the entirety of Ukraine in two weeks. We are now about to round the corner on year four of their special military operation. Because their military is dog shit. And

I know there's a hot take here. I feel China is even worse because, yes, they're big asset is their numbers, But if you take any kind of real critical look at their their air platforms. They swear the sou fifty sevens like the greatest things in sliced bread are f eighteens, which are like antiquated by all standards, or by our standards anyway, could smoke check those in any kind of

actual air to air dogfight. You look at their radar capabilities, you look at their miss missile capabilities, you look at the very baseline training that your front infantry units receive. It is dog shit compared to America. So for China to get involved in an actual conflict with a actual competitor i e. US, it would be it would be a prison rate.

propaganda and their diplomatic and economic power. So what China ultimately wants to do is use the threat of we will attack you, we will invade you to coerce those other countries to you know, appease China and be like, all right, you know what, let's not go to the war.

you make that moan ney. Then the oil prices dip out, and as Chevron is pulling out, Chinese investors moved in. Same thing that took place in Afghanistan when American troops rolled out, Chinese mining conglomerates moved in. So China understands because they screwed themselves out of their biggest asset, which was their manpower, their numbers. That was a big thing the Chinese military since the beginning. They'll throw two million dudes out of problem. And I mean if they lose it,

they lose it. They don't care. They've never really cared about losing manpower. So they have seen that this one child policy has fucked them out of their biggest asset. So they have been trying to wage a financial war on the world, but they haven't been overtly loud about it. They're basically throwing the rope around the neck and they are getting ready to tighten the noos if ever needed. But that's been their plan on the whole on the whole back end of it that a lot of Americans

and a lot of Western countries don't really understand. Then when you look at their Belton Road initiative and you look at the actual principle behind it, the direction it's going across the world, which countries does it make very strategic stops and and everything else that's done like you said, yes,

for military purposes. Absolutely agree with that. It's also being done to where they can cut off the flow to certain countries because, like you said, semiconductors are that's a big hot button item right now, right and I'm not gonna I'm not saying that's gonna go away anytime soon by any means. But when you look at the amount of resources that other country tes rely on China for the instant that somebody pisses them off enough, they could

just cut them off and they're screwed. And so it's this is a war being waged on multiple fronts, and they have to be smart about it because they no longer have the manpower to back. They can't cash the check that they used to be able to write.

the Chinese leader Sun Yatsen. He wrote a book called The International Development of China then, and in it he pretty much highlights that within one hundred years there's gonna be two major powers in the world. And he said it's gonna be the Anglo uh the White race led by the Anglo Saxons, and the Yellow race led by the Chinese. And he says they're gonna they're gonna fight.

So China needs to prepare for that real fight. So this is this is not like some ship that's like happening in the past ten five years, Like they think strategically, whereas the US unfortunately, you know, hm, one of like that's like the the bad thing about our uh democracy is that every four years you get a leadership change and then they undo whatever policy was, you know, in place the previous four So you were starting from scratch

every fucking four years. With China, it's like, all right, this is our goal for the next five years, this is our goal for the next ten years, this is our goal for the next fifty years, this is our goal for the next one hundred years, and it just moves on in progression. Yeah, that's what has been so successful and it's and it's you.

was trying to be enacted. Trump himself is he is an outlier to a lot of things, and I get that, but you have Trump derangement syndrome going so hard in DC right now. You've got people that worship every word he says because they want to be his guy. And then you've got people that think that he's literally satan and everything he says. It's more polarized, right but behind closed doors, that money spends the same regardless of what

party these people claim to be about. And I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm a huge proponent of democracy. As a matter of fact, I wish we actually had a true republic, not a democracy here. But that's just my own hot take. But it breeds a perfect breeding ground for advancement, and for technological advancement, and for socioeconomic advancement, all these things. Democracy is the only system where you can go from the lowest one percent to the wealthiest

one percent in one generation. No other system of economy or government has that ability readily available for their citizenry. Right, So there's so many goods, but there is so much negative that comes with that as well. And you just highlighted a very crucial point in that for sure.

for twenty years, has been there through multiple administrations. So they're just there digging up the dirt on whoever they're getting paid to dig up the dirt on. It doesn't matter to them. That's no skin off their nose. But that's that's the point. It's a giant blackmail operation in that kind of espionage warfare that pendulum swings both ways, even in house, and that's a massive problem.

So Sally, for any of our cult members that are listening to this that would like to support you in your efforts or maybe find more information about your cause and give all the shameless plug dude, your websites, your socials, whatever you're willing to tell us about, please let it be known.

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a lot. I know our good cult members did, and I hope that we get to hear from you again here in a few months, and here that you've made some crazy advancements and that there's more, there's more acknowledgment, and there's actual boots on the ground that's making some changes happen to free your people of the genocide that they are legitimately experiencing right now now that so many

people don't know what anything about. So thank you so much for coming on the show, brother, I really do appreciate it.

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