#612-CultXCosmic: PROGRAMMED TO KILL PT. 4

and we will before the rest of the month. We're going to finish our Program to Kill series and then I'm gonna throw a few little extra episodes out there. But I'm really excited to jump back into Program to Kill. This is Program to Kill Part Forward. And before we jump right in, I have a few things that I need to do, and one of those things is a shout out. If you all were wondering how you could get a hold of me to like ask me a question or you know, just say hello and I will

shout you out on one of the episodes. It's Instagram when you go to cosmic Peach. What is it cosmic Peach dot podcast. I think on Instagram. In my bio, you can go to my link tree and send me an email from there, So step by step, go to my profile, go to my bio. It will say contact, and then you hit contact and then you go over to the link tree and it says contact Julia, and you leave your name, your email address, and a message and it goes straight to my email and I will

respond to you or shout you out or whatever. But I get so many messages on Instagram and there are so many comments that come through on Spotify what have you. I'd need a personal fucking assistant to get back to all the comments and shit. So that's the best way to do it. And someone's smart enough to figure this out. Yep, and here we go, says the name is Trey Dog. Okay love It says, hello, beautiful. I've been listening to you for a while now, and I absolutely love your

episodes since the very beginning. I'm fucking honored. I'm sure you saw the new Netflix about the menindas boys, and I look back to see if you did an episode about them, but I did not see one. Uh covered it in I think the Pedaphocracy series. Actually, thank you. I'm sure with your fire and skills, you can do a fire episode and it's not all that it's cracked

up to be as they put it on TV. If you know what the peach is saying, I'm sure you can dig up some pretty good dirt on an episode about that, well, Tray fucking thank you so much, brother, because I did mention it in the Program to Kill Excuse me, I did mention it in the Pedaphocracy that they killed their fucking parents because they were fucking raping on them. And I haven't watched it because I feel like I'm gonna have a bad day if I watch it.

I feel like there's some stuff in there. I'm sure they put a ton of shit in there that's gonna fucking not be the truth about what really happened. It's gonna piss me off, it's gonna make me have a bad day. But what I will say is my sister watched it, and as far as I can tell from her, they're making it out to be like they weren't really raped on by their parents. Like let me just let's say this is true, and that's what they're trying to

make it out to be. How come any type of shamoo bitch with blue hair fucking comes out of the woodwork saying that they were raped and everybody's just like stop, stops their life to be like Oh my god, she was raped, she was molested. All this crazy shit happened to her, And we should all stop our fucking lives because this bitch with blue hair. Fucking first off, who's raping you? Who the fuck is raping you? But anyways, we all stop our lives for somebody who come out

of the woodwork and say they were raped. These two kids literally murdered their parents because they were raping on them so much they couldn't take it anymore. They snapped, they had a mental breakdown. They fucking murdered the shit out of their parents, fucking blew their fucking faces off of their parents. And I talked about it in comparison to Lizzie Borden because she also was getting raped by her father and fucking acts the face off of him.

So I don't know why they're trying to make it out out to be that they were making it up that they were getting raped by their parents in order to have some type of like defense to get off on the crime. Like why would they make that up? Sure, they don't want to go to jail, But at the same time, this is the realist shit. These really wealthy influential people raping on their kids. Their kids snap, they can't take it anymore, and they fucking blow their parents'

faces off. It seems logical to me, but I guess I'm in the minority because they're trying to make it. And that's why I don't like to watch these HBO and Netflix specials because like, am already I rate. I'm already pissed the fuck off, Trey, you need to go back. I don't remember which segment of the Pedaphocracy I put that in, but it's one through four, you know, fucking it's one of them. Now I have another shout out,

let me get to it. Someone that I work with in the podcast community says, by the way, my mom fucking loves you. She has been on your Patreon for a long time. She says, how funny and great you are all the time. Her name is Cindy, and fucking Cindy. Hello, I love you too. I think you're fucking awesome as well. Anybody who subscribes to my Patreon and things I'm great, fucking you get a massive shout out. Love you, love you,

love you long time and so again. If you want to send me a message, do it through Instagram via my link tree, it'll go straight to my email and I'll read it on the next episode that I record. I'm not sure how long it's gonna take me to put this out in comparison to when I got the message, but you know, if you are subscribed and listening to all the episodes, you'll hear it. You'll hear it, right Trey, Cindy, I got you. I fucking I got you. Love you guys.

So today is Programmed to Kill, part four, and I'm gonna start us off with a little quote as usual, here we go. Quote. It's more of a shadow than anything else. You know, it's a human being, but yet you can't accept it, the killing itself. It's like, say you're walking down the road. Half of me will go this way and the other half goes that way. The right hand side didn't know what the left hand side

was going to do. End quote. That was Henry Lee Lucas describing how he perceived his victims before killing them. Interesting how he mentions the left hand path and the right hand path. And so this is where we're gonna get started today. I'm if you were wondering, not really wearing any makeup except for some eyebrows. Trying this whole like loving myself thing and accepting who I am. I don't know how well it's going, though, Love yourself or

nobody will. Right. All right, folks, we're about to get into some serious biscuits and gravy in today's episode. So hold onto your hats, okay, and keep your questions till the end. Maybe I'll answer them for you. Here we go. Most of you out there are probably familiar with what

is considered the classic serial killer profile. This was a notion first put forth by the FBI, which coined the term serial killer and pioneered the concept of profiling in an attempt to understand the phenomenon of mass murder, like fucking criminal minds or some shit which I love, By the way, I had the biggest crush on Spencer Reed in that show, Like, Oh, my fucking God, with your smart, fucking, sexy,

fucking ugh, I would tear that ass up anyways. It appears to be the case, though, that the concept of the serial killer profile was put forth largely to misinform the public, which seems to be the thing, right. They created the illusion of the serial killer, like in the case of Henry Lee Lucas. Few, if any, of the elements of the serial killer profile apply to Henry Lee Lucas and so many others. But yet we're supposed to believe, as he was murdering people's asses, that he fits the

serial killer profile. For instance, okay, serial killers are said to act alone, driven to do so only by their own private demons like Dexter and the Dark Passenger. Serial Killers are also supposed to be so far removed from ordinary human behavior right that they would never share their private passions with other people. But in Henry's case, this is an obvious false notion. It has been officially acknowledged that Lucas worked with not just one, but at times

as many as three accomplices. As I have mentioned previously, Otis Tool's pre teen niece and nephew were frequently brought along to witness and at times participate in the crimes of Henry and Otis, So that fucking bit of the profile is totally inaccurate. And it is also claimed that serial killers target a particular type of victim, similar in age, gender, race, hairstyle, attractiveness, and other physical attributes. Again, in Henry's case, this sim

does not fit the known facts. Actually, Henry's victims had very little, if anything in common with one another. The victims' ages ranged from children to the elderly. Both genders and races were also well represented. And fucking nothing fit the profile. And as Lucas himself once stated, quote there's been a mixed breed of people as far as the killings themselves end quote and fucking that is the truest statement of the year, because this does not fit any

type of profile. And of course, it is also claimed that serial killers follow a readily identifiable modus operandi, with the means of obtaining their victims and the trajectory of the crime following a well defined pattern. Again, that was clearly not the case with Henry Lee Lucas, whose victims were obtained in a variety of ways and who inflicted death by a variety of means, including bludgeoning, stabbing, strangulation, shooting,

and suffocation. Okay, so here's this. Some were killed in their homes while others were abducted and taken to remote locations. Some were sexually abused both before and after death, while others were not. Some were cannibalized, some were left on display for maximum impact. Upon their discovery, while others were left so as to not be discovered at all. So obviously, Henry does not fit the fucking profile of a serial killer in this way, like at all. I mean in

other ways as well. But the point is, Henry Lee did not even come close to matching the profile of what he was supposed to be. And strangely, an probably the most remarkable aspect of the Henry Lee Lucas story is that it's not actually remarkable at all. So in reviewing the case histories of more than two dozen other alleged serial killers, it becomes readily apparent that few, if any,

fit the stupid fucking profile. Okay, The victims of Rascindas Ramirez, for instance, raged in age from twenty one to eighty eight years old, with a mix of both males and females. The cause of death varied as well, with most being bludgeoned, though one was shot in the head, another stabbed, and yet another had an ice pig buried in their head. But I will say though almost all of the weapons used for inflicting death by both Lucas and Ramirez had

one thing in common. They are what are termed quote weapons of opportunity. End quote. Now basically, they are weapons that were acquired at the crime scene immediately before the murders were committed, which, by the way, actually precisely mirrors the means by which the CIA has historically taught its assassins to kill coincidence, I think not and get this shit. A CIA training manual entitled A Study of Assassination advises the would be killer to do quote the simplest local

tools are often the most efficient means of assassination. A hammer, axe, wrench, screwdriver, fire poker, kitchen knife, lamp stand, or anything hard, heavy and handy will suffice. All such improvised weapons have the important advantage of availability and apparent innocence. The assassin may accidentally be searched before the act and should not carry an incriminating device if any sort of lethal weapon can be improvised at or near the site. End quote. Ah,

ain't that fucking nice. I'm glad there are so thorough fucking dicks. This is how the fucking they get away with this shit. Anyways, this advice has been taken to heart by a good number of serial killers quote unquote. The Mafia assassination service known as Murder Incorporated. Yes, this is a real fucking thing. The brainchild of the Lanski Luciano Syndicate, which had extensive connections to US intelligence agencies,

had a remarkably similar philosophy. Just by the way, but so Henry Lee recounts in the Hand of Death book that his training by the Hand of Death cult followed the same time honored tradition. Of course, if you ask the FBI, they will assure you that satanic cults and

satanic crime do not exist in modern day America. But it's important to remember that this is the very same FBI that, during the reign of Murder Incorporated and for several decades thereafter, refused to acknowledge the existence of organized crime in America. So go fucking figure. It's also the same FBI that for years years ignor Lord and denied the resurgence of the Glu Klux Klan in the early

part of the twentieth century. The FBI has a long fucking history of denying the existence of the most notfarious groups devoted to terrorizing our own American society. But so anyways, other than utilizing weapons of opportunity, the most common means by which professional assassins carry out their contracts is with a small caliber bullet fired at point blank range to the head, typically either a twenty two or a twenty five caliber handgun. In afflicting such a wound is quick, efficient,

relatively quiet, reasonably clean, and most importantly, highly lethal. Contrary to conventional wisdom, a small caliber round to the head is more often fatal than a larger caliber bullet because the smaller projectile has enough velocity to make the initial penetration into the dense skull bones, but not enough to

make an exit wound. Fucking brilliant, right, because once inside the fucking brain cavity, the slug will tend to ricochet around the curved inner bone surfaces, causing considerable damage to the brain in the process, fucking turns your brains into spaghetti essentially, right now. A larger caliber round, on the other hand, is much more likely to penetrate clean through the fucking skull, making a huge, fucking JFK mess all

over the place. Right, So, the smaller gun, when fired from very close range, is a much more efficient killing device. These guns are also very easy to conceal and are the easy these weapons to silence, and there is another reason that these are often the weapons of choice for contract hits. Smaller caliber slugs, particularly those from a twenty two caliber weapon, are virtually impossible to trace or to

match up to any particular gun. Literally millions of twenty two caliber weapons are in homes all across the country, and it is by far the most popular mass produced ammunition on the market, and a twenty two caliber bullet that has punched through the skull and careemed around the skull cavity is virtually guaranteed to deform to such an extent that a ballistics match will be fucking impossible. Now, by the way, just saying, do not take this shit

as some kind of advice. I feel like you all are very smart people, but still, I just have to say this is purely informational and not motivational. You feel me, but so. Matching a flatten slug that's been literally dug out of a victim's head to a particular gun is

like finding the proverbial needle in the shit stack. And for this reason, a smaller caliber contact wound to the head, usually to the side of the head, has long been the mark of a professional assassin, and isn't it weird that the vast majority of the victims of certain serial killers were killed either by means of a weapon of opportunity or they were shot in the head with a

small caliber weapon execution style. Fucking isn't that interesting, And more often than not, there is no specific type of victim that is targeted, nor is there a pattern as to how the killings are carried out. Take, for example, another serial killing, Ramirez, Los Angeles famous night Stalker and dude, hear me out, okay, because I arny, you know what

you're gonna say. Just listen, dude. Most of the night Stalker victims were killed how fucking a small caliber handgun to the left side of the head while they slept. Both a twenty two and twenty five caliber weapon was used. The remaining victims were what fucking bludgeoned or stabbed to death with household items including a hammer and a lamp and a vase. Don't get me wrong, some of the victims were mutilated, right, We can't leave that out to

varying degrees, including two were hacked up with machetes. And it doesn't stop there because a couple of them were subjected to electrocute shin nah. So their ages didn't matter either.

They ranged from young adults to eighty years old, with both men and women well represented, and there was no discrimination shown as to the race ethnicity, none of that shit of the victims either, So obviously Richard fucking er mir as mister knight stalker shitthead bitch content was the perfect example of someone who was programmed to kill following the CIA fucking handout to the letter and in other fucking news in what were dubbed at the Sunset Strip

Murders also in Los Angeles, the victims were also dispatched with a twenty five caliber contact wind to the head, except for one victim who was shot in the chest and sliced open. But besides that, sorry fuck, they all got headshots, oh my bad, and two of them were also beheaded, and only one of the dead people who had likely been an accomplice, was male, the rest females of various ethnicities. But it doesn't stop there. And by the way, the Sunset Strip murders, y'all need to fucking

listen to my Laurel Canyon shit. Okay, okay, but anyways, onto the next fucking asshole, fucking Herb Mullin Okay from Santa Cruz is sure to have been, if he was actually guilty of the murders attributed to him, the most creative serial killer in the history of modern crime. The seemingly random set of crimes credited to Herbie Stans is probably the most ludicrous use of the term serial killer on a record. So let's take a look, shall we.

The first victim was a homeless man beaten to death with a baseball bat for no apparent reason on a lonely stretcher road. The next was a girl who was repeatedly stabbed, then sliced open, mutilated, and generally made a mess of. The next five victims were all killed in a single night at two different residences, both occupied by

known drug traffickers and their families. In one house, all three victimvictims, two of whom were children, were shot once in the head with a twenty two caliber weapon and then stabbed a few times for good measure. At the other house, a slightly less professional job was done. The two victims at that address, who were close friends of the victims at the other crime scene just by the way, were shot multiple times with a twenty two caliber weapon

in various parts of the body and then stabbed repeatedly. Now, the next four victims were a group of teenage boys on a camping trip who were each shot once in the head and multiple times in the body. But interestingly enough, with this one, the boys literally had their own twenty two caliber rifle within arm's reach of where they were killed.

Weapon of opportunity. Who knows, but they say all four boys were allegedly killed by a lone assailant before they could reach for the gun, despite the fact that Mullen would have had to reload his six shot twenty two caliber automatic at least once to complete the slaughter. But who cares about details like that, not our justice system.

But so, following the mass execution of the teenagers, Mullen, I guess allegedly decided to test his skills as a sniper, picking off an ex boxer as they strolled across his front yard. But speaking of that, in nearby Sonny, Sacramento, California, Richard Chase got his sniper killing out of the way right off the bat. His first victim was dropped in front of his home with a twenty two round fired from a parked car just the way Mullen had allegedly

done it. The rest of the Sacramento victims were killed with a twenty two caliber contact wound to the left side of the head, sometimes followed by a second shot. Some were then mutilated. Ages ranged from twenty months old too fifty one years old, with both males and females

being represented. But on with the murder tour. Here in Wendy, Chicago, the Ripper crew killed a string of women, both black and white, by a variety of means, before then adding something new to this serial killer repertoire, a gang style drive by shooting of known drug dealers. It's always good practice for any aspiring serial killer to throw at least one obvious drug hit into the mix, throw them off

the trail. Right. This is in case, you know, people start catching on to the whole serial killers are not necessarily random acts of violence thing. You know, they leave that out of the serial killer profile and documentaries. But just as David McGowan, oh wait, you can't. He's fucking dead,

probably for putting all these pieces together. But so let's continue on, right, Consider, for example, the case of Charles can't pronounce his last name, it's like ng or something like that, and Leonard Lake, who I have mentioned before. At least a few of their known victims were deeply involved in drug trafficking. Other than that, the victims had

very very little in common. Now excavated from the pair's compound where the remains of seven men, five women, and two little babies, though there were probably way more more undiscovered victims, how the pair's victims were killed was impossible to determine, which was also true for the cases of the other killers who fall into the Collector's category, including Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Burdella, Gary Heidnik, and

Herb Baumeister. In all these cases, all that remained of the unfortunate victims were various bones and in some cases genitalia, internal organs, and slabs of flesh. And it's actually within this group that the most consistency is shown in the targeting of their victims. This is gonna get really interesting. Now let me take a sip of my angry orchard, which usually gives me horrible acid reflex, so wish me luck all right now. The known victims of Gacy, Burdella, Baumeister,

and Dahmer were all young men, gay or bisexual. Even still, there was not necessarily a specific victim profile in all these cases. Dahmer's victims ranged in age from fourteen, as I have spoken about before, to thirty one, and were of various races. Even though the fucking Netflix documentary made it out to be some woke, fucking racial fucking issue, it's not. It's a CIA fucking issue. But anyways, even though the Netflix show tried to make all this BLM

esque bullshit happened, it wasn't like that at all. Okay, Now, something that I forgot to mention because I released an episode on the Exorcist and how all this weird stuff surrounded making the movie the nineteen seventy three I want to say, uh, the original Exorcist movie. Fucking Jeff Dahmer watched The Exorcist. I think it might have been part two, the heretic fucking to charge himself up to go murder

these people and fucking dismember them and shit, y'all. Probably I might release the Exorcist episode for the Cult just because it's just a high strangeness that went on with that movie. And then Jeff Dahmer fucking program to kill Jeff Dahmer fucking watches The Exorcist to get himself all charged up to go fucking murder people like, it's just

really really weird. But onto, Something else I want to discuss with you is that even in the cases where these killers are given a catchy moniker that is supposed to reflect a distinctive signature to their slayings, okay, they're actually is rarely a consistent Let me give you some examples. The victims of the Boston Strangler, for instance, ranged in age from nineteen to seventy five, were both black and white, and varied considerably in physical attractiveness, and they were not,

contrary to popular mythology, fucking strangled in the same way. Okay, in some cases it was done manually, in others with ligatures acquired from the scene and fucking Some were stabbed, mutilated, and or sexually assaulted as well. And then most of them were left on display, but just one was discreetly covered with a blanket to throw off the scent. I

guess I don't know. In other strangler news, the Los Angeles Hill Side Stranglers victim ranged in age from twelve to twenty eight and varied considerably by height, weight, race, skin tone, and hair color, and in addition to strangulation, various other techniques were utilized, including electrocution, lethal injection, and lethal gas, all methods improvised with materials at hand, and strangely enough, all methods used by the state to perform

judicial executions. Doesn't sound like many were strangled on a hillside, does it. How about Edmund Kemper, dubbed the co ed Killer. His victims were definitely not all fucking co eds. Two of them were his fucking grandparents okay, and another was his mother so and not only that, several others were years too young to be a co ed. Oh. In

speaking of that, I thought of another way. I'm gonna tell people how my boyfriend and I met that I don't want them to know that we have shows there's an eleven year age gap between us, and next time someone asks, I'm gonna tell him he used to babysit me. Little inside joke, you know. Anyways, back to the not

so co ed Killer. His victims were killed with a combination of point blank bullet wounds to the head and stabbing, strangulation, suffocation, and budgeoning with weapons of you guessed it o portunity.

Now onto one of my personal favorites. In the case of Theodore or Robert Mundey, it is frequently claimed that all of his victims were remarkably similar in appearance, and many books chronicling Bundy's exploits reinforced this notion by including a carefully selected set of photos of the slain women, who did kind of resemble one another to a very small degree overall, though, the reality is the victims varied in hight weight, build, attractiveness, hair color and style, and

various other physical attributes. As for the manner in which they were abducted and killed, that is a fucking matter of speculation, okay, because many were never found, and of those that were, most of the time they were fucking skulls. Okay, fucking skeletons that were recovered. Now, how can you tell how they were killed by looking at a fucking skeleton, right, But it was determined from what they could tell of the other bodies, the cause of death was by means

of weapons of opportunity. Okay. Now take this for an example, when we're talking about the CIA program to kill a handbook in the infamous attack at the chi Omega sorority house that I spoke about before the crimes were committed, with a club acquired immediately before entering the property. Some say it was actually just a fucking tree branch. The girl who positively identified him as the serial killer said

that he was holding a tree branch. Okay. The chi Omega bloodbath, by the way, was in huge contrast to Bundy's previous alleged crimes, which involved the abductions and killings of single victims. This crime was completely outside of his moh why would he suddenly change things? Why not abduct Why not single victims anymore? It's not matching the profile. This crime instead seemed to borrow heavily from the rampage perpetrated by Richard Speck. Heard of him? Let me put

y'all on game, all right. Richard Benjamin Speck was an American mass murderer who killed eight student nurses in their South Deering, Chicago residence via raping, stabbing, strangling, slashing their throats, or a combination of them on the night of July thirteenth through the fourteenth, nineteen sixty six. But actually, before we get right into Richard Benjamin Speck back to Bundy for just a second, though, something else that came to

my mind. Bundy's final murder before his capture was the killing of a twelve year old child, which also did not match his modus operandi, And that one always bothered me because it was so far outside the norm for the Bundy victims. He had never abducted, raped, or murdered someone so young before from a school, no less, and that was right after he broke his modus operandi at

the fucking cai Omegas rority house. So this whole profiling thing, while it makes a great show for criminal minds or some shit like that the fantasy world, a lot of the most infamous serial killers quote unquote of all time really did not have a profile that you could stick to. As for Richard Speckle, he also showed no consistency in the means by which his victims were killed, other than that all died from wounds inflicted with weapons improvised at

the scene. As I said earlier, death came by way of various combinations of strangulation, stabbing, slashing of the throat, and breaking of the neck. And so it goes for virtually all serial killer cases. Okay, it's random, it's not ever in the same way. And most of the time you can't even tell how they fucking died because they're just finding skeletons. Okay, how about New York's son O Sam? How about that one? He targeted men and women of

various ages. How about how about fucking Arthur shaw Cross, the Genesee River Killer. Okay, he killed two young children, one was a boy, along with a string of women of various ages. So where's the fucking profile? Tell me? Most were strangled and or bludgeoned with weapons acquired at the scene. The one was drowned. Most were utilated, cannibalized, and sexually assaulted. Random as fuck. Should we talk about the Gainesville Ripper Danny Rolling. He included one male among

his five victims. All were stabbed and slashed to death, some were posed, and one was beheaded. Where's the profile? Where's the fucking profile? And if Netflix made a documentary about the Gainesville Ripper, they would say that it was so easy to see because he was ripping their throats out and he was no. Okay, no, it was random. It didn't make sense. None of it was adding up. He beheaded a motherfucker. Why wasn't he called the Gainesville

beheader not catchy enough? Because they love to sensationalize these serial killers that they create. They love to sensationalize them. So maybe, just maybe these monikers that they come up with are nothing but advertisements. They are literally put in place to sen say, shinnies, these fucking program to kill assassins. And finally, lest we forget the Manson family, whose victims ranged in age from teenaged Steven parent to middle aged Lino LaBianca and included both men and women killed with

various weapons, including a twenty two caliber handgun. So clearly, there are any number of serial killer cases in which there is no defining modus operandi and in which the deceased don't fit any kind of specific victim profile. In fact, it's kind of difficult to find a case study of any serial killer who leaves a distinct signature at each crime scene. Okay, and what of the notion of the serial killer as a lone predator was Henry and Otis

partnership and aberration? I think not. There are a number of serial killer cases where it is officially acknowledged that there were more than one perpetrator at the scene. The Manson family, of course, is probably the most well known case of multiple perpetrator serial killings, but less well known is the case of the Ripper Crew in Chicago in

the early nineteen eighties. Described by authorities as a four man satanic cole, the Rippers, led by charismatic Robin getch Yuh, allegedly killed as many as seventeen women in as many months. And then there is the case of that Charles ng can't pronounce it? Is it Nina? Like? Is that really how you say his last name? Fuck him anyways? Okay.

Though Charles was the only one to stand trial for this series of killings in northern California, it is acknowledged that the crimes were committed with the assistance of Leonard Lake, who committed suicide upon his arrest, and actually evidence strongly suggests that there were others involved as well, including Leonard Lake's fucking ex wife. Okay. Now, many other serial killers have worked in pairs, including the Hillside stranglersh plural and

working the same Los Angeles area turf. Just one year after the Stranglers were stopped was the tea of Roy Norris and Lawrence Plyers, Bittaker. Okay, the fucking Toolbox Killers, which I have spoken about before. Do y'all remember the fucking Halloween Murders episode I did with the Cult of Conspiracy.

I talked to you about the fucking Toolbox Killers, Okay, And they basically just took over after the Hillside Stranglers were stopped their protege, if you will, And a few years after they were caught, the team of Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy, who was working the very same LA streets, committing a series of killings dubbed the Sunset Strip Murders. Okay. They were also a team in the same fucking area

in Los Angeles, isn't that strange? And the year after they were caught, another serial killer took over the LA Market, the notorious night Stalker. Come on, guys, And even though the media stated the contrary, there is a lot of fucking evidence that clearly points to multiple perpetrators, not just Richard Ramirez, So what the fuck is going on with that? It also strongly suggests that some of the killings were

contract hits. Okay. As I kind of implied earlier in this episode, the same can be said of the evidence in the Herb Mullen case, and actually, as we take a more in depth look at our illustrious roster of serial colors in these upcoming episodes, evidence almost always indicates multiple assailants, with their very few exceptions, and that fucking evidence is routinely ignored or buried or explained away by law enforcement authorities and the people who document the crimes

of these high profile criminals. This dude, Maury Terry, who I think I may have mentioned before, has actually done a bang up job arguing the case that the Son of Sam killings were carried out by multiple cult members, despite the media portrait of David Berkowitz as the proverbial lone killer, and a lady named Susan Kelly has likewise done a great job of exposing the Boston strangler killings

as the work of several killers, not just one. So I guess it should be called the Boston Stranglers, right. And even before the release of Kelly's book, which she called the Boston string Plural so creative, there had long been speculation that the killings were not the work of one man. Most of the officials involved in the investigation. In fact, never believed that a single killer was responsible.

Betcha didn't know that. And actually, of the eight members of the psychiatric panel convened to develop a profile, seven believed that there were at least two perpetrators, some said maybe even three with the Boston Stranglers, and even in those cases that seemed to come closest to matching the classic serial killer profiles, such as the John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer cases. Believe it or fucking not, guys, believe it or fucking not, there is a compelling case

to be made that there were other killers involved. I know, fucking shock the hell out of me too, But then again, I, as many of you may be as well, have been brainwashed since I was a kid. Yes, my mom and I watched serial killer documentaries when I was a kid, but basically, they pushed the whole lone killer thing on people so hard. It's like, why wouldn't you believe them.

We're conditioned since whenever the fuck you started becoming interested in true crime stories to believe that these were lone psychopaths. To lock your doors and stay inside because the fucking Jeffrey Dahmer might get you. John Wayne Gacy's on the loose. Ted Bundy's right around the corner. But is it all that it's cracked up to be, because then you find out you're not getting the full story and shit changes, right,

and that evidence will be examined in later episodes. I know, exciting, right, We're really getting into it, and uh, just as a taste test for what we might be getting into in these upcoming episodes, we will look at the cases of two high profile alleged serial killers slash mass murderers who were said to have acted alone. Right. The first is

that of Yosemite killer Carrie Stainer. The other dates all the way back to nineteen sixty six, the year Richard Speck allegedly went berserk in a home filled with young nursing students in Chicago, becoming the first mass murderer of the television age. I hope you're getting as I am, because we're going to be diving so far in the hole in the next episode. I'm talking whole lower body in that bitch. Okay, we're getting into the thick of things, and uh, I got a lot of stuff going on

in my personal life. I may be coming to you with a different background next time, we'll see or I might still be fucking coeped up in my sister's extra bedroom. God only fucking knows what's going on. As long as my show remains my top priority, I think everything will be fine. If you actually saw what my room looked like right now, it'd be a real testament as to where my mental state is. It's a fucking wreck. And I'm usually the most tidy organized motherfucker ever, But I just,

you know, I I don't know. I'm not depressed. Okay, don't get me wrong. I'm not depressed type of person, but it's just stressful. I got a lot of the rest in my life. But it's fall. You know, we got a lot of holidays coming up. I'm so excited. I love the holiday season. I'm actually planning. I want to do something fun for everyone for Christmas. I think you know. November is my birthday month, November thirtieth hola Sagittarius season, So fucking it's my time to shine, right.

I'll be thirty on the thirtieth. It's my golden birthday. I have a lot to look forward to, including Program to Kill Part five. I hope I see you all next week. As we continue the program to Kill series, don't forget if you want to reach out to me, say hello, ask a question, anything like that. You just want to say how much you're enjoying the show or how much you're not enjoying the show. You can do that through Instagram, click the link tree, contact Julia or whatever,

and sam a email. Until next time. I have one very important vital piece of information I need you to learn just as soon as humanly possible. I can't seem to face up through the facts. I'm tensing, nervous at Cansel. I can't sleep because on become a real live why cycle killer. Just to see Bob bap better run one run, run run roun on Psycho killers. Just gus see bop a better run run run run, run roun roun