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Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, I'm Jacob, and tonight is a special night. It is a live event over here at the Cult of Conspiracy. We have sent out the invite. The cult members are in the waiting room and it's go time because tonight is the night that we get into finally Trump versus Kamala. This is going to be hilarious.
Dude, I can't believe they're even letting this happen.
But I'm also so excited that we get to watch this with our cult members on the live Let's fucking do this.
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Let's go. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everybody.
Let's go. This is gonna be awesome. Welcome everybody. This is going to be a banger. You know, we did the debate back whenever it was Trump versus Biden. It was hilarious and I can't imagine this one being a letdown. I really can't like think about Kamala like she doesn't have a teleprompter to read off of. This is going to be interesting to say the least.
I'm I can't.
I still cannot believe that they are allowing this to to actually happen. Regardless of whatever side of the opinion you're on, whatever political side you call yourself a side of whatever, it doesn't matter. They were trying so hard to keep this from happening. In Boom, It's going down, dude.
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I'm excited to let's.
All right, so now we have it funny enough, it's actually being aired live on Disney Plush. So how about that.
The propaganda has already started. We haven't even started the fucking debate.
That's amazing to the Churans. They want everybody to watch this shit.
Of course, of course, so.
Let's see how insane this is going.
For amazing, it's too expensive, far too many people.
We know that young families need support to raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of six thousand dollars, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. My passion, one of them is small businesses. I was actually my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise us. We call her our second mother.
She was a small business owner. I love our small businesses.
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Before, which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in fun.
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No, no, no, we won't figure it out. We won't figure it out.
And I mean, I can't believe Disney Plus is having a fucking a little bit of an issue on that.
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She was a small business owner. I love our small businesses. My plan is to give a fifty thousand dollars tax deduction to start up small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy. My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before, which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in five trillion
dollars to America's deficit. My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales Tax, which would be a twenty percent tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month. Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about four thousand dollars more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
President Trump will give you two minutes.
First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an incorrect statement. She knows that we're doing tariffs in other countries. Other countries are going to finally, after seventy five years, pay us back for all that we've done for the world, and the tariff will be substantial. In some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact, they never took the tariff off because there was so much money. They can't. They would
totally destroy everything that they've set out to do. They're taken in billions of dollars from China and other places. They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country buster. It breaks up countries. We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before, probably the worst in our nation's history. We were at
twenty one percent. But that's being generous because many things are fifty sixty, seventy and eighty percent higher than they were just a few years ago. This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class. On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics,
and also unions. Unions are going to be affected very soon. And you see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio, you look at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over the towns, they're taking over buildings, they're going in violently. These are the people that She and Biden led into our country, and they're destroying our country. They're dangerous, They're at the highest level of criminality, and we have to
get them out. We have to get them out fast. I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country.
I'll do it again and even better.
We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate. But I would like to let Vice President Harris respond on the economy.
Here well, I.
Would love to.
Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War. And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
But I'm going to tell you all on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook, a bunch of lies.
Grievances, and name calling.
What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project twenty twenty five that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to gain I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us. And I pledge you to be a president for all Americans.
President Trump, will give you a minute here to respond.
Number One, I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows, better than anyone. I have nothing to do with Project twenty twenty five. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas. I guess some good, some bad, But it makes no difference. I have nothing to do. Everybody knows I'm an open book.
Everybody knows what I'm going to do, cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before. We had the greatest economy. We got hit with a pandemic, and the pandemic was not since nineteen seventeen, where one hundred million people died, has there been anything like it.
We did a phenomenal job with a pandemic.
We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. We made ventilators for the entire world. We got gowns, we got masks. We did things that nobody thought possible. And people give me credit for rebuilding the military. They give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic, but the only jobs they got were bounced back jobs.
These were jobs bounced back, and it bounced back and it went to their benefit. But I was the one that created them. They know it, and so does everybody else.
Vice President Harris E. Laier's won.
So Donald Trump has no plan for you. And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people. I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America. What Goldman's Acts has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse.
Mine would strengthen the economy. What the Wharton.
School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.
Sixteen Nobel laureates have.
Described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year, would invite a recession.
You just have to look at where we are and where.
We stand on the issues, and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you, because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
That's just a think you really have to say. I went to the Wharton School of Finance, and many of those professors, the top professors, think.
My plan is a brilliant plan. It's a great plan.
It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country. It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for our country. And just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan. She copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like run, spot run, four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Mister President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up. The Vice President brought up your tariffs. You responded, and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax. Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board. You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to twenty percent,
and on goods coming into this country. As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed on to the consumer. Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family nearly four thousand dollars a year. Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of teriffs.
They're not going to have higher prices. What's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years. I charge I was the only president ever China was paying US hundreds of billions of dollars, and so were other countries. And you know, if she doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they
should have immediately cut the terriffs. But those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their administration, we are going to take in billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars. I had no inflation, virtually no inflation. They had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country. Because I've never seen a worse period of time. People can't go out of by serurial or bacon or eggs or anything else. The people of our country are
absolutely dying with what they've done. They've destroyed the economy. And all you have to do is look at a Paul. The polls say eighty and eighty five and even ninety percent that the Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response. And you heard what the President said there, because the Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place. So how do you respond, Well.
Let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America. He invited trade wars. You want to talk about his deal with China. What he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China to help them.
Improve and modernize their military.
Basically sold us out when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the twenty first century, which means focusing on the details of what that requires, focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American based technology so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing, focusing on what we need to do to support America's workforce so that we don't end up on the short
end of the stick in terms of workers' rights. But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this with COVID, is he actually thinked President She for what he did during COVID. Look at his tweet, thank you President She exclamation point when we know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
President Trumbullet, you responsed.
Of all, they bought the chips from Taiwan. We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like going to my philosophy. In fact, I was going to send her a maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if she ever got elected, she changed it, and it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist. Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a
Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well. But when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's I believe twenty one million people, not the fifteen that people say, and I think it's a lot higher than the twenty one that's bigger than New York State pouring in. And just look at what they're doing to our country.
They are criminals. Many of these people coming in are criminals. And that's bad for our economy too. You know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later. Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can.
Happen to our economy.
They have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane, almost policy that you say they have to hate our.
Country, President Trump, Thank you, Lindsey.
I want to turn to the issue of abortion. President Trump, you've often talented that you were able to kill Roe V.
Wade.
Last year, you said.
That you were proud to be the most pro life president in American history. Then last month you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights in your home.
State of Florida.
You surprised many with regard to your six week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short and you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. But then the very next day your reverse course.
And said you would vote to support the six week ban.
Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because you've changed your position so many times.
Therefore, why should they trust.
Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is they.
Have abortion in the ninth month.
They even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia.
Not the current.
Governors doing an excellent job, but the governor before he said, the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that, because that predominates because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick by the way, for our country because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick
says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth, it's an execution, no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay, and that's not okay with me, hence the vote. But what I did is something. For fifty two years, they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states, and through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices.
We were able to do that.
Now. I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. I believe strongly, and it Ronald Reagan did also. Eighty five percent of Republicans do exceptions very important. But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it, and for the first time, you're going to see, Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for fifty two years.
Every legal scholar, every.
Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
And that's what happened.
Happened now Ohio the vote with somewhat liberal Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought. But each individual state is voting. It's the vote of the people now, it's not tied up in the federal government. I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it, and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to those six justices.
There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born. Man and Vice President want to get your response to President Trump, Well, as I.
Said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies.
And that's not actually a surprising fact through the Let's understand how we guess you said that that Donald Trump ails hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court, but the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade, and they did exactly as he intended. And now in over twenty states there are Trump abortion bands which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care. In one state it provides prison
for life. Trump abortion bands that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means. A survivor of a crime a violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next.
That is immoral.
And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about. This is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are.
Afraid they might go to jail.
And she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot. She didn't want that, Her husband didn't want that.
A twelve or thirteen year old survivor.
Of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term.
They don't want that.
And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe V. Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it in to law. But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national Abortion band. Understand in his Project twenty twenty five, there would be a national abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
I think the American people.
Believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.
Thank you, Vice President Harris.
Well, there she goes again. It's a lie. I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a band because we've gotten what everybody wanted, Democrats, Republicans and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the States.
And the states are voting.
And it may take a little time, but for fifty two years, this issue has torn our country apart, and they've wanted it back in the States, and I did something that nobody thought was possible. The states are now voting. What she says is an absolute lie. And as far as the abortion band, no, I'm not a favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
Would you veto a national abortion band if it have to?
Because again two things. Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
She'll never get the vote.
It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the fifty to fifty and essentially fifty to fifty in both Senate and the House. She's not going to get the vote. She can't get the vote. She won't even come close to it, So it's just talk. You know what. It reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total catastrophe the student loans. And then her I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss.
He spends all the time on the beach. But look, her boss went out and said we'll do it again, We'll do it a different way. Got rejected again by the Supreme Court. So all these students got taunted with this whole thing, about this whole idea, and how unfair that would have been part of the reason they lost. To the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans, they didn't get it for free, but they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that.
Of course, when it gets strangers to go and get the healthcare she needs, barely can afford to do it, and what you are putting her through is unconscionable. And the people of America have not. The majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. And that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot, in red and Blue States. Both the people of America have voted for freedom.
Vice President, excuse me, I have to respond another lie. It's another lie. I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization, the IVF.
I have been a leader.
In fact, when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
I've been a leader.
They know that, and everybody else knows that I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing they you should ask will she allow abortion in the a month, ninth month, seventh month?
Come on, okay, would you do that? Why don't you ask me that question?
That's the question, would you because under the question.
You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said, we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with a baby.
We're going to turn now to immigration and border security. We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the board in this country. Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America. We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration. This past June. President Biden posed tough new asylum restrictions.
We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly. But my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this So.
I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs.
And human beings.
And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill which I supported. And that bill would have put fifteen hundred more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job. It would have allowed us to stem the flow of
fentanyl coming into the United States. I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country. That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking and guns, drugs, and human beings.
But you know what happened to that bill.
Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill. And you know why, because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a.
Leader who engages.
In solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand. But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
And I'll tell you something.
He's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised. And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, And I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
He will talk about wind mills cause cancer.
And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
And I will tell you, the one thing you will not.
Hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires. And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
And I pledge to you that I will.
Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump on that point. I want to get your respons I.
Would like to respond.
Let me just ask them, why did you try to kill that bill and successfully?
So?
That would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the board.
Responders to the rallies, she said, people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people that do go, she's busting them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light, so she can't talk about that.
People don't leave my rallies.
We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago, and what's.
Going on here, You're going to end up in World War three.
Just to go into another subject, what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country. And look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. Not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in.
They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned. As far as the reason they go is, they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great against very simple phrase, make America great again. She's destroying this country and if she becomes president, this country doesn't
have a chance of success. Not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids.
I just want to clarify here.
You bring up Springfield, Ohio and ABCDS did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
I see people on Tellien. Let me just say here, this is the people on television. My dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
I'm not taking this from television.
People are taking it as you say, dog was eaten by the people that went there.
Again, the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of that. Vice President heress, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard.
Talk about extreme.
You know, this is I think one of the reasons why in this election, I actually have the endorsement of two hundred Republicans who have formerly worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and congress Member Liz Cheney.
And if you want to really know the.
Inside track on who the former president is, if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him. His former chief of staff of four star general has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States. His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous and unfit. His for Secretary of Defense has said the nation, the Republic, would never survive
another Trump term. And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election.
President Trump. Will give you a quick minute to respond.
Here, thank you, because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person. I fired most of those people, not so graciously. They did bad things or bad job, I fired him. They never fired one person. They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the thirteen people who's were just killed viciously and violently killed, and I got to the parents and the family.
They didn't fire.
They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen. So when somebody does a bad job, I fire him. And you take a guy like Esper, he was no good. I fired him. So he writes a book. Another one writes a book because with me. They can write books with nobody else can they. But they have done such a poor job, and they never fire anybody. Look at the economy, look at the inflation.
They didn't fire any of their economists.
They have the same people.
That's a good way not to have books written about you. But just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican in history, by far. In fact, I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far.
Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted to talk about earlier.
So let's get back to your deportation proposal that the Vice president has reacted to as well. President Trump, you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country. You say you would use the national Guard. You say if things get out of control, you'd have no problem using the US military.
You also said you would use local police.
How would you deport eleven million undocumented immigrants? I know you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this. What does this look like.
Will authorities be going door to door in this country?
Yeah, it is much higher. Because of them.
They allowed criminals, many many millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists, they allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in, drug dealers to come into our country and there now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela, don't ever come back or we're going to kill you. Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in
countries all over the world is way down. You know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country. And this will be one of the greatest mistakes and history for them to allow. And I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes, but it's not worth it because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done. There's never been
anything done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of our country, millions of people let in and all over the world, crime is down all over the world except here.
Crime here is up and through the roof.
Despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof.
And we have a new form of crime.
It's called migrant crime, and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.
President Trump, as you know, the FBI says, overall, violent crime is actually coming down in this country.
But excuse me, the FBI defraud. They were defrauding statements.
They didn't include the worst cities, They didn't include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud.
President Trump, thank you. I'll let you respond by his President hay Well.
I think this is rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference, has been found libel for sexual assault, and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing. And let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement. The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement forty five thousand agents.
Get this on the day after he was arranged on thirty four felony counts. So let's talk about what is important in this race. It is important that we move forward, that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people. Address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for, address what we must do to support our small businesses, address bringing down the price
of groceries. But frankly, the American people are exhausted with the same all tied playbook.
Vice President Harris, thank you.
Excuse me. Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent, and I'm winning most of them, and I will win the rest of appeal. And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court. I'm winning most of them. But those are cases. It's called weaponization. Never happened in this country.
They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fawnie Willis to the Attorney General of New York and the DA in New York. Every one of those cases. And then they say, oh, he's a criminal. They're the ones that made them go after me. By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially guilty in the Documents case, and what happened in my Documents case, they said, oh, that's the
toughest of them all, A complete and total victory. Two months ago it was thrown out its weaponization, and they used it and it's never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election, present in fake cases.
President Trump, thank you a really quick response to your Vice President Harris on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department.
Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in twenty twenty four is taking place. The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he
were to enter the White House. Again, Understand, this is someone who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States, that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies, someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
We know J. D.
Vance is not going to stop him. It's up to the American people.
Vice President, to stop him.
Thank you, Lindsay, Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, this is the.
One that weaponized, not me.
She weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me. They talk about democracy, I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy, whether it fake Russia Russia Russia investigation that went nowhere.
We have a lot to get to.
Lindsay, Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, you said you wanted to ban fracking.
Now you don't.
You wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons, Now your campaign says you don't. You supported decriminalizing border crossings. Now you're taking a harder line. I know you say that your values have not changed, So then why have so many of your policy positions.
So my values have not changed, And I'm going to discuss one of the at least every point that you've made, but in particular, let's talk about fracking, because we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in twenty twenty. I will not band fracking. I have not banned fracking as Vice President of United States, and in fact, I was the tie breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy,
so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil. We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil. As it relates to my values, let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid, raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved, and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager. The values I bring to the importance of
home ownership. Knowing not everybody got handed four hundred million dollars on a silver platter and then file bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase.
Three million homes.
Increase by three million homes by the end of my first term. My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who is sexually assaulted by her stepfather, and my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
My work that is.
About protecting social security and Medicare is based on long standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams.
My values have not changed.
And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling.
The true measure.
Of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
I intend to be that president, President Trump.
Your well, first of all, I wasn't given four hundred million dollars I wish I was. My father was a Brooklyn build at Brooklyn Queens and a great father, and I learned a lot from him. But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and have built it into many, many billions of dollars, many many billions, and when people see it, they are even surprised. So we don't have to talk about that fracking. She's been against it for twelve years. Defund the police, she's been
against that forever. She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it. Okay, they're all laughing at it. She gave up at least twelve and probably fourteen or fifteen different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She went out, I'm talking now, you know mind, please does that sound familiar?
She went out.
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis, she went out and raised money to get them out of jail. She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a.
Radical left liberal that would do this.
She wants to confiscate your guns, and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the election, Fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one, just to finish one thing so important in my opinion. So I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took When they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and the prices were going up the roof. They immediately let these guys go to
where they were. I would have been five times, four times, five times higher, because you're talking about three and a half years ago. They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling. You saw what happened to gasoline. So they said, let's go back to Trump. But if she won the election, the day after that election, they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead,
fossil fuel will be dead. We'll go back to windmills, and we'll go back to solar, where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out of You ever see a solar plant, by the way, I'm a big fan of solar, but they take four hundred five hundred acres of desert so much. These are not good things.
For the environmental under science.
Thank you, Lindsay, thank you.
We have an election in just fifty six days, and I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis. Mister President, on January sixth, you told your supporters to march to the capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country in the world saw what played out of the Capitol that day,
the officers coming under attack. Aids in the West wings say, you watched it unfold on television off the Oval office. You did send out tweets, But it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically, I said during my speech, not later on peacefully and patriotically. And nobody on the other side was killed.
Ashley Babbitt was shot.
By an out of control police officer that should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace, but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly.
I ask what about.
All the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pourt it? She was the boatis are? Remember that she was the borders are. She doesn't want to be called the bordersar because she's embarrassed by the butterfack. She said at the beginning, Oh, I'm surprised you're not talking.
About the Bodiet.
That's because she knows what a bad job they've done. What about those people? What are they going to be prosecuted? One of these people from countries all over the world, not just South America. They're coming in from all over the world. David all over the world, and crime rates are down all over the world because of it. But one of those David, one of those people going to be prosecuted, one of the people that burned down Minneapolis
going to be prosecuted. Or in Seattle, they went to see Seattle, they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle. One of those people going to be prosecuted.
But let me just ask You might ask her that question if you were the president you were watching an unfold on television. It's a very simple question. As we move forward toward another election, is there anything you regret about what you did on that day.
I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech. I showed up for a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big. I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, d C. And the mayor put it back in writing, as you know, I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it. And again, it wasn't done by me, it was done by others. I said, I'd like to give you ten thousand National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me.
Nancy Pelosi rejected me. It was just two weeks ago. Her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened. If they want to get rid of that tape, it would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs. I wasn't responsible for security. Nancy Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job.
The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi. But I do want Vice President Harris to respond here.
I was at the Capitol on January sixth. I was the vice president elect. I was also an acting senator. I was there, and on that day, the president of the United States incided a violent mob to attack our nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day, one hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured and some died. And understand the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not
an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say, there were fine people on each side. Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president.
Said stand back and stand by.
So for everyone watching who remembers what January sixth was, I say, we don't have to go back.
Let's not go back.
We're not going back. It's time to turn the page. And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome, and
be clear on that point. Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards.
To the past.
Let me just follow up here.
It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business. That was where bloodbath was. Also on Charlottesville, that story has been as you would say, debunked, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, Jesse, all of these people. They covered it. If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was debunked in almost every newspaper. But they still bring it up, just like they bring twenty twenty five up.
They bring all of this stuff up. I ask you this, you talk about the capitol. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?
How comes she's not doing anything? And I'll tell you what I.
Would do, and I would be very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right now. I'd like to see her go down to Washington, DC during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time. Go down to because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
Go down to Washington, d C.
And let her sign a bill to close up the border, because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills, they have the right to do it. The president of the United States, You'll get them out of bed. You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say, come on, come on down to the office. Let's sign bill. If he signs a bill that the border is closed. Only has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal if they do that.
The border is closed. Mister, most people are killing many people.
Unlike J six, we talked to immigration here tonight. I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you, because it really brings us this into focused truth in these times that we're living in.
Mister President, for three.
And a half years after you lost the twenty twenty election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide. In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said quote you lost by a whisker. That you quote didn't quite make it, that you.
Came up a little bit short. I argue that, are you now acknowledging that you lost.
In twenty twenty. I acknowledge editor, you did that sarcastically. You know that, and we said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof. All you have to do is look at it. And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval. I got almost seventy five million votes, the most votes any sitting it has ever gotten. I was told if I got sixty three, which was what I got in twenty sixteen, you can't be beaten the election. People should
never be thinking about an election as fraudulent. We need two things. We need walls, we need and we have to have it. We have to have borders, and we have to have good elections. Our elections are bad. And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote. They can't even speak English, they don't even know what country they're in, practically, and these people are trying to get them to vote, and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country.
I did watch all of these pieces of video. I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by Whisker. We didn't quite make it, and we should just point out here as clarification. And you know this, you and your allies sixty cases in front of many judges.
Many of them judge looked at it, and.
So they said we didn't have standing.
That's the other thing they said, we didn't have standing a technicality. Can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing. The president of the United States doesn't have standing. That's how we lost. If you look at the facts, and I'd love to have you do, you'll do a special on it. I'll show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you. We have so many
facts and statistics. But you know what, that doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now. That's all news. And the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in decline, and they have put it into decline. We have a nation that is dying.
David, mister President, thank you. Vice President Harris. You heard the president there tonight. He said he didn't say that that he lost by whiskers. So he still believes he did not lose the election that was won by President Biden and yourself. But I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days. This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming
election just weeks away. He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials. He says, we'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long term prison sentences. One of your campaign's top lawyers responded, saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us.
We won't let him.
Suppress the vote. Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?
Donald Trump was fired by eighty one million people, so let's be clear about that. And clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election. And I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice president of the United States, and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.
I have talked with military.
Leaders, some of whom work with you, and they say you're a disgrace. And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did, in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate, to my right, the temperament.
Or the ability to not be confused about fact.
That's deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better.
I'll give you one minute response.
Let me just tall about world leaders. Victor Orban. What are the most respected men? They call him a strong man, He's a tough person, smart Prime Minister of Hungary. They said, why is the whole world blowing up? Three years ago it wasn't. Why is it blowing up? He said, because you need Trump back as president.
They were afraid of him.
China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. China was afraid of him. North Korea was afraid of him. Look at what's going on with North Korea. By the way, he said, Russia was afraid of him. I ended the North Stream two pipeline and Biden put it back on day one. But he ended the Excel pipeline, the Xcel pipeline in our country. He ended that, but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany,
the biggest pipeline in the world. Look, Victor Orban said it. He said, the most respected, most feared person.
Is Donald Trump.
We had no problems when Trump was president, but when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if you weren't in that debate, he'd be running onstead of her. She got no votes. He got fourteen million votes. What you did You talk about a threat to democracy? He got fourteen million votes, and they threw him out of office. And you know what, I'll give you a little secret. He hates her, he can't stand her, but he got fourteen million votes.
They threw him out.
She got zero votes, and when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed. And now she's running. I don't understand her, but I'm okay with it because your time, I think we're going to do very well.
You've got a lot more to get too, now to the Israel Hamas war and the hostages who are still being held, Americans among them.
Vice President Harris.
In December, you said, quote Israel has a right to defend itself, but you added quote it matters how saying international humanitarian law must be respected. Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians. You said that nine months ago. Now, an estimated forty thousand Palestinians are dead, nearly one.
Hundred hostages remain.
Just last week Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who said there's not a deal in the making. President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate.
How would you do it?
Well, let's understand how we got here. On October seven, Hamas, a terrorist organization slaughtered twelve hundred Israelis, many of them young people who are simply attending a concert.
Women were horribly.
Raped, and so absolutely I said, then, I say, now Israel has a right to defend itself. We would the bile and how it does so matters because it is also true, far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed, children, mothers.
What we know is that this war must end.
It must win end immediately, and the way it will end is we need a cease fire deal and we need the hostages out, and so we will continue to work around the clock on that work around the clock, also understanding that we must chart a course for a two state solution, and in that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and an equal
measure for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran, and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel. But we must have a two state solution where we can read build Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanya who and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza?
If I were president, it would have never started. If I were president, Russia would have never ever. I know putin very well, he would have never and there was no threat of it either. By the way, for four years have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you ended up far worse than people understand what's going on over there. But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden she hates Israel. She wouldn't even meet with net Yahoo when he went to Congress to
make a very important speech. She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers. She wanted to go to the sorority party. She hates Israel. If she's President. I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now, and I've been pretty good at predictions that I hope we're wrong about that one. She hates Israel at the same time, in her own way, she hates the Arab population, because the whole place is going to get blown up. Arabs, Jewish people, Israel, Israel
will be gone. It would have never happened. Iran was broke under Donald Trump. Now Iran has three hundred billion dollars because they took off all the sanctions that I had. Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbola or any of the twenty eight different spheres of Terra, and they are spheres of Terra, horrible Terra. They had no money. It was a big story, and you know it. You covered it very well. Actually they had no money for Terra. They were broke. Now they're a rich nation. And now
what they're doing is they're spreading that money around. Look at what's happening with the Houtis and Yemen, look at what's going on in the Middle East.
This would never happened. I will get that settled.
And fast, and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended. If I'm president elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president.
Vice President Harris, he says, you hate Israel.
That's absolutely not true.
I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people. He knows that he's trying to again divide and distract from the reality, which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
It is well known that he admires.
Dictators, wants to be a dictator on day one, according to himself. It is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine. It is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant. It is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong un. And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors.
And that is why so many.
Military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace. That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently.
Weak and wrong. On national security.
Including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
Vice President Harris, thank you.
And she's the one that caused it, that's weak or national security by allowing every nation last month for the year, one hundred and sixty eight different countries sending people into our country, their crime weights are way down. Putin endorsed her last week, and I hope she wins, and I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible. It wouldn't have happened with me. The leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent,
and they are, They're grossly incompetent. And I just ask one question, why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia has ever made, Nordstream too, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world, going to Germany and all over Europe Because they're weak and they're ineffective, and Biden, by the way, it gets paid a lot of money.
Thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to.
We'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the National Constitution Center right here in Philadelia.
Oh okay, shots fired, Shots fired, real quick. I have to say this every time Kamala Harris speaks, Tell me she doesn't sound like somebody's drunk ant slurring through some sort of like a really semi heartfelt mod.
On a log.
I tell you what, dude, she is. Whether you agree or disagree with any of her rhetoric or whatever, at least she seems of somewhat more stable mind than even Biden was, So like.
Did she ever say that Donald Trump is weak on national security?
That was hilarious. But dude, every topic, every single topic, she's full of shit. You know, Like, whenever she's saying that, you know he's weak on security. Meanwhile, like literally every country out there is walking all over us, right, all the wars that are happening. That's because they don't fear any kind of us really stepping in unless we're supporting it and making money off of it. Right.
He saw how hard they skirted as soon as he said he got shot in the head, they hord was like, yep, he did not just say that.
Moving on, Josh, what you got there, homie, dude? This whole thing there you go.
So I had a buddy just post on Facebook to pay attention to her right here. Her you know, has been covering her right here the whole time, like who's coaching her? Who's coaching her in the background, because she seems way too coherent and on point on task for her good point.
Yes, yes she does.
And dude, I was even thinking to myself that it seems like she's being fed information because there's like a lag between what she's thinking and what she's saying there it's it's I'm with you, I'm with you.
Yeah, it seems like, uh to me that she is. Definitely it makes sense that she's going to be getting fed this kind of information. Either that or she has been coaching extremely well. And honestly, I was thinking about
this in the middle of the conversation they were having. Dude, you know, it's I'm starting to come to the opinion here that it was their plan all along to pull Biden from that and that was going to be a test run to see what Trump's talking points would be up against Kamala, because she seems very well coached on exactly what to say, on exactly how to retort, Like I mean, it's almost flawless in the way that it seems like it was prepared. Now, does that mean that
everything she's saying is absolutely correct? No, But she's just not stuttering, she's not laughing, she's not you know, pausing, and all those little minuscule type things that tie into every single conversation that she has. She seems to be on point with exactly what she was, you know, coach to say, I.
Think no doubt, bro, and they are. They are definitely taking some serious shots at each other. I'm liking it.
I Trump did, in fact take a hard skirt himself. Whenever they brought up to you regret your actions. He was like, nope, we're talking about something else. Then they had to bring him back on point. They just had to do the same thing with Harris. She went off one of some shit They had nothing to do with nothing. It's wild. This is the weirdest reality TV show I think I've ever seen in.
My goddamn life. I'm I'm having a blast though.
How about he whenever he said, hey, quiet, quiet while I'm talking. This is here, the damn this is this is the reason why they don't allow a crowd in those in those auditoriums or wherever they're shooting them at. You remember, because the last time whenever it was him versus Hillary, and he said some ship like that, the fucking crowd erupted and oh yeah, you know they're you're not gonna see that crowd.
Rallies and ship and He's just like, yeah, well, you know, she can't even get people there.
So yeah, no one's leaving, No one's everybody's there. It's broo.
She wanted to say that all of his crowd, everybody that goes to them, they're bored out of their mind, so they leave. Uh No, that's see what I'm saying, Like, that's they they do this ship so that Trump can't then say it back to her, because that's exactly what's going on. We watched that one debate whenever they had Quavo and fucking Megan thee stallion, right, it was like, dude, everybody was leaving as soon as those people were done singing.
Nobody wanted to stick around, and it was sad. But she this is what they have to do, is this is part of the magic. They say.
I guarantee they do not bring up gun rights.
I guarantee they don't because Trump will stand on letting people have their guns even though he got shot in the head, and they can't let him say that on the mic. They're like, you see how they're skirting around certain things because they know where he's going and they are not trying to let him say certain things to the American people.
Well, I'll say this, as far as the moderators, I think it's about to start again. But as far as the moderators go, the guy seems to be a little bit more fair. The chick that's with him, Oh my god, could she be any more of an extension of Kamala than possible? Anyway, let's get back to it here, dude, all right.
Let's go.
This says that it is just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Mister President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up. The Vice president brought up your tariffs. You responded, and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
You're proposared.
Oh wait, let's fast forward all the way back to the by the millions to millions.
It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake numbers. Look, we're in for two hundred and fifty billion or more because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are. They're in for one hundred and fifty billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO. They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars when I said, either you pay up or we're not
going to protect you anymore. So that's maybe one of the reasons that don't like me as much as they like weak people. But you take a look at what's happening. We're in for two hundred and fifty to two hundred and seventy five billion. They're into one hundred to one hundred and fifty. They should be forced to equalize. With that being said, I want to get the war settled. I know Zelenski very well, and I know Putin very well. I have a good relationship and they respect your president. Okay,
they respect me, they don't respect Biden. How would you respect him. Why for what reason? He hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin, hasn't spoken to anybody. They don't even try and get it. That is a war that's dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president if I win, when I'm president elect, and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other, I'll get
him together. That war would have never happened. And in fact, when I saw Putin after I left, unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell. But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it. After I left, I said, oh, he must be negotiating. It must be a good strong point of negotiation. Well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him. He had no idea how to stop it.
And now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse, and it could lead to World War three. Don't kid yourself, David. We're playing with World War three and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where is our president? We don't even know if he's a president, And just a clarify, he threw him out of a campaign like a dog. We don't even know is he our president, but we have a president president doesn't know he's alive.
Your time is up.
Just to clarifying the question, do you believe it's in the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war?
Yes, Ordain, I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done, negotiated deal, because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed.
I want to take this to Vice President Harris. I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment, but also as commander in chief if elected, how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden.
Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden, You're running against me. I believe the reason Thatnald Trump says that this war would be over within twenty four hours because he would just give it up. And that's not who we are
as Americans. Let's understand what happened here. I actually met with Zelenski a few days before Russia invaded, tried through force to change territorial boundaries, to defy one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity. And I met with President Zelensky. I shared with him American intelligence about how he could
defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank, to Poland and Romania, and through the work that I and others did, we brought fifty countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support, because of the air defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins, the abrams tanks that we have provided, Ukraine stands as
an independent and free country. If Donald Trump were president, Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now, and understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is not just
about Ukraine. Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president, and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO, and what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence.
Otherwise Putin would be sitting in Kiev.
With his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland. And why don't you tell the eight hundred thousand Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.
Vice President Harris, thank you. We've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight. Afghanistan came up in the last I wanted her to respond to something.
You said earlier. And please, I'll give you a minute here.
Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost three hundred thousand men and women, but he would have been sitting in Moscow quiet. Please, he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now. But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people don't have. He's got nuclear weapons. They don't ever talk about that. He got nuclear weapons. Nobody ever thinks
about that. And eventually maybe he'll use him. And maybe he hasn't been that threatening, but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about Nobody likes to talk about it. But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started. Three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid. They said the wrong things. That war should have never started. She
was the emissary. They sent her in to negotiate with ze Lynsky and Putin, and she did, and the war started three days later. And that's the kind of talent we have with her. She's worse than Biden in my opinion. I think he's the worst president in the history of our country. She goes down as the vice president in the history of our country. But let me tell you something. She is a horrible negotiator. They sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left Putin did the invasion.
President Trump, thank you did bring up something you said. She went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin? Can you clarify tonight yet again?
I said it at the beginning of this debate. You're going to hear a bunch of lies coming from this fellow. And that is another one. When I went to meet with presidents alanskap Now I met with him over five times.
The reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader, upholding international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy. And that is very much what is at stake here.
The President of the United States is commander in chief, and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery.
We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin. I do want to talk about Afghanistan. It came up in the first hour of this debate. I wanted to move on to Afghanistan.
Or I said. Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen. He got these countries, the twenty eight countries at the time, to pay up. He said, I've never seen. He's the head of NATO. He said, I've I've never seen For years we were paying almost all of NATO. We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO. I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you. Otherwise
we would have never gotten it. He said. It was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done.
Thank you. I want to turn to Afghanistan.
It came up in the first hour of the debate, and we witnessed an appoignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. I do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?
Well, I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan. For presidents said they would, and Joe Biden did.
And as a.
Result, America's taxpayers are not paying the three hundred million dollars a day we were paying for that endless war. And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world, the first time this century. But let's understand how we got to where we are. Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine. He calls himself a deal maker. Even his national security advisor
said it was a weak, terrible deal. And here's how it went down. He bypassed the Afghan government. He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban. The negotiation involved the Taliban getting five thousand terrorists Taliban terrorists released
and get this, no, get this. And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Cap David, a place of storied significance for us as Americans, a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders.
And this.
Former president as president invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the President of the United States to be commander in chief with a level of respect.
And this gets back.
To the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world.
Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump your response to her saying that you began the negotia yeh.
Thank you Taliban.
So if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them with snipers. And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing. That's the fighting force within Afghanistan. They don't bother doing that because you know, they deal with the wrong people all the time. But I got involved, and Abdul is the head of the Taliban. He is still the head of the Taliban, and I told Abdul, don't do it anymore. You do it anymore,
you're gonna have problems. And he said, why do you send me a picture of my house? I said, you're going to have to figure that out, Abduel. And for eighteen months we had nobody killed. We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo. It was a very good agreement. The reason it was good it was we were getting out.
We would have been out faster than them, but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers, we wouldn't have left many Americans behind, and we wouldn't have left we wouldn't have left eighty five billion dollars worth of brand new, beautiful military equipment behind. And just to finish, they blew it. The agreement said you have to do this, this, and they didn't do it. They didn't do it. The agreement was terminated by us because they didn't do what they
were supposed to do. These people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. And by the way, that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are.
President Trump, thank you. I want to move on now to race and politics in this country. Mister President, you recently said a Vice President Harris quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight. Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent.
I don't and I don't care. I don't care what she is. I don't care. You make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.
But those were your words, So I'm asking you.
I don't know. I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that, and then I read that she was black, and that's okay. Either one who was okay with me, that's up to her. That's up to her.
Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this, I think it's.
I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people. You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race.
And let's remember how Donald Trump started.
He was a.
Land he'd owned land, he owned buildings, and he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families. Let's Remember, this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent. The Central Park five took out a full page ad calling for their execution. This is the same individual who spread birth or lives about the first
black president of the United States. And I think the American people want better than that, want better than this.
Want someone who understands as I do. I travel our country.
We see in each other a friend, We see in each other a neighbor. We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point.
Their fingers at each other.
I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people, knowing that regardless of people's color or the language of their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invest in those, not in hate and division.
Vice President Harris, thank you, Lindsey.
President Trump, this is now your third time.
This is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country. There's never been anything like it. They're destroying our country, and they come up with things like what she just said. Going back many, many years, when a lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on the Central Park five, they admitted they said they pled guilty, and I said, well, if they pled guilty, they badly hurt a person, killed the person ultimately. And if they
pled guilty, then they pled We're not guilty. But this is a person that has to stretch back years forty fifty years ago because there's nothing now. I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world, and I'm going to build it again. It's going to be bigger, betteran stronger. But they're destroying our economy. They have no idea what a good economy is. They're oil policies, every single policy. And remember this, she is Biden. You know she's trying to get away from Biden. I don't
know the gentleman she says, she is Biden. The worst inflation We've ever had, a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad, and she can't get away with that.
I want to respond to that, though, I want to just respond briefly.
Clearly, I am not Joe Biden, and I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country, one who believes in what is possible, one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people.
I believe in what we can do.
To strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have a plan. Let's talk about our plans, and let's compare the plans. I have a plan to give startup businesses fifty thousand dollars tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas, their hard work. I have a plan six thousand dollars for young families for the first year of your child's life, to help you in that most critical
stage of your child's development. I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance for first time home buyers. That's the kind of conversation I believe, David, that people really want tonight, as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling.
Let's turn the page Vice President.
Harrison, thank you.
To move on, President Trump.
Let's turn to policy.
Plans to defund the police. She has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun.
President, she has a plan to.
Allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else. Okay, that's what her plan is.
Until just recently, I just needs something, sorry that I need to respond.
I'm sorry, we're going to We're going to move on. Byresident Trump. This is now your third time running for president. You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.
You have failed to accomplish that. You now say you're.
Going to keep Obamacare quote, unless we can do something much better. Last month you said, quote we're working on it. So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is?
Obamacare was lousy, healthcare always was.
It's not very good today.
And what I said that if we come up with something, and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going to replace it. But remember this, I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it. They wouldn't vote for it. They were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it. If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare. But the Democrats came up they wouldn't vote for it. I had
a choice to make when I was president. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be, never going to be great, or do I let it rot? And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away. I decided, and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people. I have a lot of good people in that administration. We read about the bad ones. We had some real bad ones too, and so do they They have really
bad ones. The differences, they don't get rid of it. But let me just explain. I had a choice to make. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be, or do I let it rot? And I saved it. I did the right thing. But it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people. And what we will do is we're looking at different plans. If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population less money and be better healthcare than Obamacare, then I would
absolutely do it. But until then I'd run it as good as it can be run.
So just yes or no. You still do not have a plan.
I have concepts of a plan.
I'm not president right now, but if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive, and there are concepts and options. We have to do that, and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future.
Vice President Harrison, twenty seventeen, you supported Bernie Sanders proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government run healthcare system. Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option. What is your plan.
Today, Well, first of all, I absolutely support in over the last four years as Vice president, private healthcare options. But what we need to do is maintain and grow the affordable care. But I'll get to that, Lindsay. I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made. I've made very clear my position on fracking, and then this business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls and I are both gun owners. We're not
taking anybody's guns away. So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff as it relates to the Affordable Care Act. Understand, just look at the history to know where people stand. When Donald Trump was president sixty times he tried to
get rid of the Affordable Care Act sixty times. I was a senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate, and the late great John McCain, who you have disparaged as being you don't like him, you said at the time because he
got caught. He was an American hero, The late great John McCain, I will never forget that night walked onto the Senate floor and said, no, you don't, no, you don't, no, you don't get rid of the Affordable Charact.
You have no plan.
And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre existing conditions.
I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like.
Remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor if a grandparent had diabetes. And thankfully, as I've been Vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act. We have allowed for the first time, Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of.
You, the American people.
Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
He never did. We did.
And now we have capped the cost of insulin at thirty five dollars a month. Since I've been Vice president, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at two thousand dollars a year. And when I am president, we will do that for all people. Understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to healthcare should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it fast as prologs.
In terms of where Donald Trump stands on that, I want to move.
To an issue that's important.
For a while, I had a mistake at number one. John McCain fought Obamacare for ten years, but it wasn't only him. It were all of the Democrats that kept it going. And you know what, we can do much better than Obamacare, much less money. But she won't improve private insurance for people, private medical insurance. That's another thing
she doesn't want to come. People are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money, and they want to have private She wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need to meeting.
President Trump, thank you.
We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans, in particular younger voters, and that's climate change. Trump, with regard to the environment, you say that we have to have clean air and clean water. Vice President Harris, you call climate change an existential threat. The question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change? And Vice President Harris will start with you one minute for you each.
Well, the former president had said the climate change is a hoax, and what we know is that it is very real. You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences, who now is either being denied home insurance or its being jacked up. You ask anybody who has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go. We know that we can actually deal with
this issue. The young people of America care deeply about this issue, and I am proud that as Vice president, over the last four years, we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy, while we have also increased domestic gas production to historic levels. We have created over eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs. While I have been Vice president, we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world.
Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs. He lost manufacturing jobs. And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Autoworkers and Sean Fain, who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American made products, American automobiles. It includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up auto plants, not closing them like happened under Donald TRUMPCE President Harris, thank you.
It didn't happen under Donald Trump. Let me just tell you they lost ten thousand manufacturing jobs this last month it's going they're all leaving. They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases owned by China. They're building these massive plants, and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States. Of these people, what they have given to China is unbelievable. But we're not
going to let that. We'll put tariffs in those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United auto workers and any auto worker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place. What they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is horrible.
We have nothing because they refuse.
You know, Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid them millions of dollars.
He's afraid to do it. Between him and his son.
They get all this money from Ukraine, they get all this money from all of these different countries. And then you wonder, why is he so loyal to this one, that one Ukraine? China? Why is he Why did he get three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife, Why did he get why did she pay him three and a half million dollars? This is a crooked administration and they're selling our country down the tubes.
President Trump, thank you, thank you.
We'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates.
An historic night.
This ABCD was presidential debate from Philadelphia back at the moment.
Okay, wow, So couple of times. First off, the whole quiet please, that was nice. I appreciated that one.
That was nice.
Two big skirts that I saw was is Biden even alive?
Skirt?
They did not want to talk about that for any more time whatsoever.
Also, the Afghan explanation, when Trump broke it down and it like made sense, they immediately changed topics because it was kind of embarrassing.
H Yeah, that was great. Jonathan thoughts.
You know, they they always try and look at the the the other side of the conversation whenever it comes to anything that was poorly done by them. And this is this is part of just manipulation and neurolinguistic programming and all that kind of stuff. It's it's very manipulative as a matter of fact. And if you ever in a conversation with the narcissist, they'll shift the attention to something that they did right, or they'll point out well, don't worry about what I did, because what you did
was worse. That's like signs of a narcissist. And that's I'm not even gonna say that's that's quality. I'm not even gonna say that's traits of Kamala. That's more of politicians speak. That's just how politicians speak, unfortunately. But yeah, whenever she was talking, whenever he was calling her out on the Afghanistan thing, she didn't say anything about, you know, all the all the military equipment that was left behind.
All she said was something about five hundred million that we're not spinning to maintain the equipment. It's like, yeah, but how much does all the equipment cost that we were like, how much did it actually left over there? But then she tried turning that around like he made a deal with the Taliban. Okay, okay, fair enough, it's not good to make deals with with terrorist organizations. However, the Taliban's like the only arm of the law that
Afghanistan recognizes, just throwing that out. But then and then she goes on about what Camp David is for America. First of all, I've fucking been there. It's not anything that she just said it's cabins. They're nice as fuck. But like it calmed down. It's not some sort of symbol of the American freedom and mom and baseball and apple pie, like calm the fuck down, Kamala. But also
Trump said, yeah I did. I handed up Duel a picture of his fucking house and he just had to you know know what that was gonna be about, Like, bro, oh, that was.
A good way to turn it around.
Yeah, that was that was a bit of a gangster move. But going back to what I said, I had to stop there because my dogs wanted to get loud and
start playing and shit. But anyway, whenever, you know, she shifted the attention for you know, uh, the the embarrassment of what happened in Afghanistan by saying, look at all of these people that are home and they don't have to be there, and all the presidents that it said that they wanted to do it for the last what however many years, and we were able to do that. And it's like, Okay, I mean, I guess you did that,
but you kind of did it the wrong way. It's just the talking points, and so you're shifting the attention. This is all I hate that this has it's come like this. It's everything's political like that. It's all about political correctness. It's not about actually what's right and actually what's wrong. It's about trying to look at a pile of shit and say, well, I mean, at least I ate healthy, and that's why that shit looks like that, you know what I mean.
Like it's so let's talk about something that they both brought up that was not very politically correct.
Is she black?
I don't know she puts out though, that's what I heard, and so like, yo, he full on.
Said that just now right, called her a hole. I was about to say a whore. I'll say that was more of a hoe. He didn't call her a whore, called her a hoe.
But now we're gonna be fair for really gonna and y'all know how I feel about her. Okay, it's not a secret, however, for going to call a spade a spade here, Let's not forget that he has kids from three different women. So like, all right, just just making sure we're keeping everything in perspective. If a woman does it, she's a hoe. If the man does it, he's I'm just saying, like he's not exactly known.
For his uh, his sexual virtue by any means.
But he did, in fact just call her a fucking hoe on national television.
That was wild.
Yeah.
I must have missed that because I I don't remember. I mean, I might not have been paying attention for that part. I just saw that the part where he's like, well, I don't know, she might be black, she might be ending, she could be both. I don't really care. It's up to her.
And so then right after they said she I heard she puts out though, or she puts out That's what I heard.
Anyway. Did he say that you missed that?
Dude?
Wow?
Yeah, I definitely missed that.
Bro. I was screaming.
If anybody's like watching my face, I don't know where I'm at. I was like, compared to where the screen's at, and shit, Bro, I am dying at this.
All right, Right, it's back on back I let's go, here we go, and David Muir and Lin's Das.
Welcome back tonight.
The time has come for closing statements, and Vice President Harris, we begin with you.
So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions for our country, one that is focused on the future, and the other that is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward. But we're not going back.
And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us, and we can chart a new way forward and a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that
is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living.
I believe in what we can do.
Together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world. I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. I'll tell you I started my career
as a prosecutor. I was a da I was an attorney general, a United States Senator.
And now Vice president. I've only have one client, the people.
And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat? The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay? And that's the kind of president we need right now, someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first. I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next ten and twenty years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people.
Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump.
So she just started by saying she's going to do this, She's going to do that, She's going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it. She's been there for three and a half years. They've had three and a half years to fix the border, they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and
do the things you want to do. But you haven't done it, and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in. You believe in things like we're not going to frack, we're not going to take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not. Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants. We're not ready for it. We can't sacrifice our country
for the sake of bad vision. But I just ask one simple question, why didn't she do it. We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being laughed at all over the world. All over the world they laugh. I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me, they call me. We're laughed at all over the world. They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's going on.
We have wars going on in the Middle East, we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to end up in a Third World War, and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons. The power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban, she gave it to Afghanastand what these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country. Many of them
are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our.
Country, President Trump, Thank you, and that is our ABC News presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center.
I'm Lindsay Davis.
And I'm David Muller.
Thank you for watching here in the US and all over the world, and from all of us here at ABC News.
Good night.
Okay, now I'll explain why I was on Disney Plus it was on ABC.
That actually makes a lot more sense out loud.
All right, sport animal, what you got, homie?
I just have a question.
Why did she She keeps trying to say, we got to turn the page and look forward. She thinks she's Bob C. But I don't think our country is a fucking book. It's a castle that it is falling, and she just she is not very small.
Well, the thing is is that she's trying to make a play on the age. Really, I think because she's saying, look, we've already had this tired asshold president. It's the reason why he's no longer the nominee for the Democratic Party. Trump, you're only two or three years younger than Biden is. You're stuck in the old ways and going up with all of that old rhetoric. She's trying to imply, well, look, I'm new, I represent the younger people. I'm not with
all that old shit. And unfortunately that's not true. Unfortunately, the things that she runs on are the same people that are puppeteering Biden, the same people that puppeteered George Bush, the same people that puppeteered Barack Obama. Yeah, they might, you know, act you know, they might, you know, act like they're on different teams. But she just said it earlier.
All of those Republican people. Remember, she goes, she starts naming them mid Romney, George Bush, had all these fucking people, right, who is it, Dick Cheney, all these people they're now coming to my side. Doesn't that make it obvious? Like whenever you look at all of the manipulation and the destruction and all the bad things that have ever happened really to this company, at least within our lifetimes, it was because of those people. We've never been like, oh,
we're absolutely Republican. No, I've never been like that. I was never a George Bush fan. As a matter of fact, I was team Eminem whenever he was shooting all over George Bush back in the day, if you remember those times. But like you know, like just because you have prior presidents on your side does not necessarily mean anything good. And you want to talk about moving on from the old ways, how about you say fuck all those people
who fuck this country up? How about that? You know, like that would be a good way of going at it.
It's at least a start in the right direction, you know. But I agree she's because that's the thing. No one knew what her policy were six months ago, and that's kind of the She's seen as the quote unquote new face, and they're trying to resurrect that as like the new scene, the out with the old end with the bro She's not new as in a younger face.
She's new as in she's very new to politics.
Like she was only a center for how long before she got nominated for the VP, Like, come on, she doesn't have anything to stand on, and you could look at her voting record or her opinion record. Honestly, she has flip flopped on every actual real issue that's of like a serious nature so much in the last year based off of what polls she just recently read.
So like, yeah, yeah, that was. This was quite a wild ride. I'm not gonna lie. That was. That was quite entertaining. I enjoyed that.
Yeah, it was entertaining. I definitely like almost pissed my pants several times, just because like some of the things that are being said are just like holy shit, it's like some some some of them were absolutely haymakers. Oh yeah, And I thought that it was.
Uh.
I thought it was pretty entertaining, to say the least. Now you could look at this like, oh, it's just a show. It's just to entertain the masses, and I'll say, if that was the case, they succeeded, I was entertained. You know, bring me, bring me my chips and beer, and I'll sit back and recline her and just watch that kind of shit all night, because that's entertainment. And if all the world is a stage. They did a pretty fucking good job.
And I mean no wrong Trump did Trump obviously quote unquote if you want to say someone won that I could see him being the more dominant in the conversation for sure. But as soon as they said, do you have a plan, No, I don't have to I haven't met the president yet.
No, but do you have a plan?
I have concepts of a plant like bro Okay, that was That was not the best way to answer that when my boy, But yeah, that wasn't good after she had been going on about how she has now granted we know that she doesn't and if she does, it's not a good one, but still I wish you would have answered that one a little better.
Didn't look good.
Well, I mean, look, if you don't have a plan, then you don't have a plan. You know, like how you're talking about healthcare, something that you know is a very touchy subject depending on what side of the aisle that you're on, and so if you're gonna say that something is a little bit more democratic leaning as a Republican candidate, you don't even want to say it. But if you also don't have a plan, which maybe he does,
maybe he doesn't. I don't know. If you don't have a plan, then I thought that he answered that pretty correctly, correctly, you know, like at least he was honest about it.
I guess, I guess, But I'm just saying I wish you would have at least been like something.
Uh.
No, I don't currently have a plan, But what I would do is create a board of people who are experts in this field to like develop there was a better way, is all I'm saying.
You know, but I know I'm nitpicking, but that's literally what we're.
Here to do, you know, right right.
He definitely still came out as the dominant force in that whole debacle.
Now, I oh, Josh, go ahead, dude. Oh, by the way, I did notice the ear the hair covering up the ear.
Oh.
And another thing that I wanted to say on top of that, before you get into what you're gonna say, Josh, is that you could tell whenever she was saying certain things. You ever hear somebody like you ever watch somebody whenever they're talking on the phone and they're listening and they're they're like kind of spacing out, maybe they're saying something
in between or whatever. She kind of had that little remnants about her to where it was like she was waiting for the conversation to go through, and then she would follow through with it, like I don't know if that's something you'll call y'all caught on too too.
Yep, absolutely, Josh, what you think?
Yeah, for sure, I agree with the with the space and out think.
I think the thing with Trump though, with.
Like kind of pushing off and saying I don't I have concepts. That's more because right after they him and JD.
Came out and said that they were gonna do the five thousand dollars.
Child tax characterdit.
Now all of a sudden she's got the six thousand dollars and then the thing with the tips, the not taxing tips, and that she turns around and says, oh, we're not going to tax tax tips.
I mean, I think it's more of I don't want.
To show any of my cards right now on national television.
Yeah, that's something that they've absolutely been doing because they
see the poll numbers start to go. They fluctuate depending on certain policies that they say that they're going to implement, and so they you know, they monitor those fluctuations in the polls, and it's probably based upon certain policies, but you know, it is it is interesting, and you know, whenever we're watching this and we're listening to it, I just wish that times could go back to the old times and like we've covered it before, to where it
was like, all right, the two people that were running for president, well, the winner became president, the loser became VP, and they would have to come together and talk about certain policies or certain laws or certain plans for the future. But instead they have to be they have to be more bitchy and more nitpicky, and oh, it works for him, so I'm gonna take that and just use it as some kind of thing that will help me become president.
It's like, you know, like I hate this whole bipartisan bullshit because it's nothing, but it's it's man versus man, or a team versus team, And it's like, dude, why are we so worried about teams in this situation like this right now, especially if we're on the verge of like World War three, we're on the verge of an economy of collapse, We're on the verge of you know, inflation, which is hilarious that there was ever even an inflation
Reduction Act, which was hysterical to begin with. But it's like, if we could actually just come together rather than throwing jabs at each other, Like why doesn't anybody ever propose that?
You know, I mean, I know, that's all they have left to cling to, bro their fucking sides, their ideologies, they're bullshit, fucking principles that they look down their nose at us for not being as justified, her as validated as they are.
That's all they have left.
Dude.
Yeah, Nation Boycott said, I missed the beginning. Was there a single question about Israel or a rant?
Yeah?
There was, yeah, they you know, they they got in and Kamala, you know, she's been flip flopping like you know, five hundred pound dudes flip flop, just dangling and constantly flipping over on both sides and stuff like that. And it's like she says one thing and then she says another thing, one thing. You know, she she's trying to get all these Democratic backers, the people who are like
pro Palestine. They're saying, yes, they should be able to retaliate, they should be able to fight and they are being slaughtered by all the thousands and everything like that. But then she'll go back and say, well, Israel has the right to retaliate. I've been pro Israel this entire time. So she's trying to appease two sides and that's not how that goes. You can't do that.
And then I actually scrolled down the chat a little.
But here to your point, Sam said that the fact that she said that Don sold us out is completely idiotic. Bro could not agree more. She legitimately said that he sold us out. Directly below that, Doug says, she grew up in a rich part of Canada and she's one of the Divine Nine from her sorority. Aka, she's a fucking ivy dude, and she's a millionaire. What does she know about being middle class? All right, let's talk about that.
And to your flip flopping point, how one second, she's a part of this click and for the record, to be a part of the Divine nine, you have to be connected.
Okay. That is like as far as us that particular sorority goes.
That is the top nine. Like professional sorority sisters. These are grown ass women that actually get paid as heads of the board of the nonprofit of AKA Right, and every fraternity and sorority has their like board of directors, and it's usually like retirees that just kind of donate their time to their club that they were part of in college. Yea, yeah, whatever, doesn't matter if you're in that click, especially at the age as she would, you
gotta be somebody, you gotta be connected. Okay, so the fact that she was that at all on top of being a millionaire.
But then you know, she came from a.
Single mom in rural Canada, Like, wait, you did what now?
Yeah, we went over that before, talking about how she lived in like a mansion, remember, and she also went to a private school. So don't don't give us this poor people bullshit because that's not the that's not the world that you grew up in. And yeah, maybe you did have a single parent. Maybe you know your your your mom and your dad didn't get along. That's fine. It happens to everybody. I mean not everybody, but it
happens to a lot of people. You're not really gonna get a lot of sympathy out of that, but you know, it's like, I can't stand this whole like the thing that bothers me the most about her and and and I don't know if anybody else catches onto this, but the thing that bothers me the fucking most, Dude, it irks my nerves whenever she just goes she she's heart
acting like she's a queen. Like she starts acting like she's all proper and and I'm going to smile upon thee who is the people that are representing the peasant class, you know, like just that little fucking I just want to smack the shit out of her because she I mean, I wouldn't hit a woman. I'm not saying that. Don't
take that out of context. But you know, whenever she's you know, she I think Trump said something, and she's like, we will and we're gonna be great, and we're gonna stick out for this country, and she's like smiling maniacally. I'm like, dude, at that moment is whenever I realized, Dude,
this bitch might be a full on reptilian. And I don't think that that's even going too far out of the realm, Like I think that you take a look at that fucking turkey neck that she got going on her I think that that's probably covering up some of her robotic reptilian wires or some shit. Dude, but that that's not natural. She needs to get that looked at.
Holy shit, I didn't realize you're gonna take shots at the turkey dog.
That's that was a good one. But hold on.
I mean, I guess whenever you're deep throating for as long as you have, you know he's gonna stretch out a little bit.
You know, there's gotta be some wear and tarling it after a while. I get it. There's mileage, dog, you're inchige. I don't know how that goes.
She's just accumulated foreskin over the years. It's gone to her neck.
But yo, he called out her dad for being a Marxist, like straight up, didn't hold that one back, which is true. No one can deny that. And again Skirt got right off of that topic. They did not want to play around with her parentage at all.
No, not at all. Benny and Kay said, okay, but did y'all look at the blinking in the is slits. I was staring at the eyes and the majority of the time on Kamala, Well, I'm not gonna lie dude, Trump needs to ease up on aspray tan. Bro he is, he's going a little too harden to paint with that shit. And I know that he's he's doing it to try and make himself look a little bit a little bit younger, make it look like he has a little bit more life blood in that uh, in that skin. But it's like, bro,
you need to ease the fuck up now. Shifting over to Kamala, Yeah, I could say that. Yeah her, Oh my god, you just said it. Her pupils were all over the place the entire time. Because I was looking, I was like, I wonder if her pupils are dilated, or I wonder if like she took a shitload of adderall or a bunch of cocaine or whatever, because then
your pupils would get all tiny. And that's at a certain point I saw that her pupils were real tiny, and then I saw him get huge, like huge, and so I know that, you know, the human eyeball is gonna fluctuate like that, but not like those drastic you know, extremes. And oh and another thing, she kept on saying, you want to talk about extremism. I was like, bitch, who are you?
Who?
Who are you talking to? Like you know, I don't know, just a bunch of shit that just rubs me the wrong way.
One hundred percent agree, But hold on, hold on, what do you mean, Donnie teen needs to slack up on the spray tam The orange man must be orange, that dude if he don't come out looking like an oompa loop. But I don't even fucking want him at this point, Like, dude, at this time, you're on the fucking wave surf that bitch, right, it's a completion.
Do the whole hairquoff shit.
Lean into it because like it's kind of like Eminem when he finally dissed himself and hit that point he was untouchable.
Lean into it, you know what I mean. I mean, might do the same thing. Just do a whole or lesque shit at your next rally. Just lean into it. Like let's just let's just cut the bullshit, you know what I mean.
If we're gonna just put it on display, let's put it all out there. Get her ass tworking out there next to Megan thee Stallion. Let's see what it's about.
You know what I'm saying, Earn your votes, work for your votes, bitch.
That's what I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, if we're gonna do it, let's just do it.
You know, I guess so same way.
Spray it down, sunset orange all the way, lean into it, earn that shit.
You know, I don't know.
I'm just saying it looks bad. Whenever your skin's orange and your eyelids are fucking super white. I'm just saying it's not a good look. But uh but I will say this, dude, think about it. I mean, I'm not trying to say that, you know, he's a slacker by any means, but like you see him out on the golf course all the fucking time, You're trying to tell me you ain't getting no tan out there, bro, you
need to keep on applying the spray tan. Like almost every video that I see on his Instagram and Twitter and stuff like that, he's golfing with somebody famous. He was like, not that long ago, golfing with h Deshambo. Oh yeah, and you know, I mean Deshambo was just like, dude, like I can't believe how how good you were able to spot that that that one drive or whatever. He was just paying them compliments or whatever. And but I'm just like, you're out in the sun all the time.
Why do you need spray tan?
You would think, right, But you don't want him to get like the golfer's equivalent of a farmer's tan.
That that was. That's not very presidential, brother, cash money. We gotta go orange head to toe.
He's in a suit. Oh dude, you could you imagine like if he only spraytanned his face in his hands?
Oh no, no, I promise his dick and balls are also orange.
If not. Once again, what are we even doing here?
Dude?
What are we even doing?
I mean, I guess you gotta have that carrot on you, you know what I mean?
You got to dude, at that point, you got to put the root on the stem. Anyway, may we're just getting derailed here. The whole fucking debate was unhinged. If y'all couldn't tell, I am having a fucking blast with American politics right now.
This is amazing.
Yeah, it's a great time. Zombie said the biggest issue with Trump would be He continued to discuss Biden, but didn't say directly on attacking her and what she's been
Quote unquote doing well. I would say that, you know the problem is is that you know, she is associated with Biden, you know, like she is his calm understudy, whatever teammate she I mean, she basically represents everything that Biden represents, right, And so you know, you could say, yeah, you could say that he was hating on Biden or whatever, but it's like that's a symbol in which she's also represented, I guess. But Zombie, do you want to clarify on that a little bit?
Hold on real quick, Yes and no.
Right, the same way that like Mike Pince was never acting on behalf of Trump, right, Dick Cheney, you could argue for the vast majority of it wasn't acting on behalf of Bush. They were doing their own shit, Like the whole time Biden when he was under Obama, he was doing shit with Hunter Biden in the whole Bearisma situation, they weren't doing like presidential shit. But it's kind of like he can't shit on her because you're right, she
hasn't done anything up until this point. So even at base level, it's like a true tried method that has worked and a untested method that like we don't know, but he kind of had no choice but to shit on Biden.
But right, I mean whenever, whenever she's the one, I mean, Biden is supposedly the guy that's Hiden in the basement. Yet we've seen less of Kamala, you know, like.
They have said, is he even alive?
Exactly? But zombie, go ahead. I'm sorry.
What I meant to say is like as if you're looking at it, like so all these people that love are like they're debating about who to choose and stuff. When he's like hammering on Biden strictly, if he was more attacking her, like when what she was doing behind the scenes, where she's been going, what she's been failing at saying, and every time that she's had any interview period, she's barely been able to make a complete sentence without
laughing hysterically. He could have attacked her policies that she enacted while she was you know, even in California, and what she did the entire time there, what she did in the Senate, things like that, because it looked like he was so hard, like so focused solely on Biden.
Even she said I'm not Biden, which, of course to the people that are like debating if they like her or not, gives like a oh, well, he's just you know, completely fixated on this, like as like just trying to see both sides of it, Like I don't.
I mean, honestly, I'm still for Trump, but.
Like it's more a less like he just wasn't actively attacking her even though they are connected. She still did a whole bunch of shit on her own the last three years. That is like completely fucked up all by herself.
I will say that was a solid line drop that she gave of, like I'm not him, you're debating me, Like, all right, I gotta get problems with her due that. That's gonna be a solid little one liner right there. You're absolutely correct.
They go into these debates already knowing exactly what the retorts are going to be. This is their their coached up. They have people who you know, are great at not necessarily negotiation tactics, but you know, just basically linguists who know how to word certain things in order to make
you sound a little bit better. I actually, towards the end of that, towards the end of the episode, towards the end of their conversation, I was like I was interested because so I got Jacob and you can tell me to fuck right off with this if you want, go for it. But I did a tarot reading and we don't have to apply it or anything. I just thought it would be interesting.
Full sin dude at this point, like, all right, go for it, dude.
Okay. Well, I did terror reading and I asked, what will the world look like if Kamala Harris becomes president? And I pulled a card for that. And I said, what will the world look like if Trump becomes president? And I pulled a card for that, and the and the two polls were very very interesting and I think very telling. So let me see where I got over here. So for Kamala, what I got was the the upside down or the reversed four of Pentacles, which is very
interesting because, uh, the reverse four pinnacles. Let me just read this and see if it resonates. So reversed means materialism and controlling behaviors. Interesting if she becomes president? What to what? What to expect? Says the The reverse four of Pentacles can show that you've been focusing too much
on the on the material side of life. Emotional and mental stability are just as important as material stability, though you won't see the tangible results in your bank account, which I thought, all right, so maybe a little bank account drawing out right.
All right, that's kind of telling. I could see that no liaes detected thus far.
Insecurity cannot be cured by amassing wealth and possessions. Okay, we're talking about the greed of that party.
America is nothing if not a culture of consumerism. Continued another one.
It's time to focus inward rather than outward. And now I'm just translating this from the spiritual to the political, so it's a little bit harder. But whenever you see a sentence like that, it's time to focus inward rather than outward, Well, what that tells me is that she's
not focusing enough on the United States. She's putting too much focus and too much attention on the outward, all the other countries, maybe paying them a little bit too much attention, helping them a little bit too much, talking about the climate change and sending all this money to Ukraine and not doing anything in Israel and all that
kind of stuff. She's too focused on helping everybody else and not us, which is something that Trump has pointed out and sure, and also it says this card can also indicate that you are being too controlling across the board and need to relax.
Okay, once again, not seeing any falsehoods. If Kamala was to win, if that America wouldn't turn out something like that, just being.
Real right right, Well, that may have been interesting because that kind of aligns with what we think we're going to be expecting from her. But then I pulled one for Trump, which I was not expecting.
This card.
It's the hanged Man, and anybody.
Going to be something with death, God, damn it.
No, no, no, the Hangman has nothing to do with death. Okay, So the Hangman, I'll just describe what it says. It says when you are suspended upside down, there is time to reflect and see things from a new perspective. Just listen to this and see if it resonates.
Okay, Okay.
The Hangman offers the unusual gift of suspended time. His presence is associated with a time period that is meant to help shift your perception of a situation. Okay. So he's been hanging in the balance there upside down, his hands tied behind his back, watching the world go as
it does. And remember one of the things that he said was is that one day I hope that I can become president, and then maybe it gets taken away from me for a little while so I can see whose team is on whose team, right, or who is on whose team, and just see how everything reacts. So I thought that that was interesting. It says the hangman is suspended by one leg upside down from the tree of life. His hands appear to be tied behind his back.
He's not president, he can't do anything right. His free leg is crossed behind the bound leg and appears relaxed and resting. Okay, you can see that he's not really tripping the fuck out, like he's like, all right, well, I'll do whatever I can with the little bit of power that I do have. He is calm, almost pensive, rather than distressed. Yellow illumination surrounds his head, suggesting spiritual
enlightenment is occurring during this time of pause. Well, I mean, some people say that whenever he got shot at maybe he became more of a religious man, right, And so there's that. And it says this is a time to surrender, not struggle. So instead of battling. It's saying, just let it all play out, see how it all plays out,
and then make your move. So it kind of seems that you know, this time that Trump has had to just watch as the world has gone by over these last three and a half four years while he hasn't been president whenever the presidency was stolen from him, rather than going on a full on outrage, he's looking back
and just playing his cards right. He's doing exactly everything that he needs to do with the limited amount of power that he has, and whenever the time comes, he's already meditated on it long enough to know exactly what he's going to do. That's my interpretation of both of those cards. Your thoughts, I.
Could see it, honestly. You know, I'm not big with Tarot cards. I'm not big on interpreting them, and I'm not obvious comparing these cards to a political future for the potentially for the free world.
I understand it's gonna be some things that may not perfectly overlap. I get that.
But that's interesting now the suspended in time situation. Could it be that Trump has been sitting there idly suspended in time, or does that mean that him taking the presidency will kind of put America in a weird place where we're kind of just suspended in time, not necessarily isolationists, but just kind of working on us and the rest of the world's off doing World War three type shit and we're just not really playing the game one way or another, because Trump has said multiple times he's not
big on those wars, He's not gonna get us involved with shit like that.
In foreign affairs.
Could it be that it's more of that type of suspension in time?
I mean, I also, you know, thought about looking at it in a different way, saying that like, okay, well, you know, all right, we already know that he's kind of been suspended in time as far as possibly sandwiching two presidencies, and that that kind of realm. But also
what if he has to wait again? I mean, think about it, what happens whenever the election comes around and we're waiting another month for the results, you know, or maybe he's up big time before we go to sleep, and then and then he's down big time the next day or the next week or the next month. We could be the ones that are hanging in that suspension. That could also be that interpretation too, So I'm just leaving up to y'all. What I mean, what do y'all think about that?
Do you think he'd run again if they steal the election like they did the first time?
Right?
Do you think that he would run again next term after Harris? Or do you think he'd just call it quits and say, nah, fuck it. If this is just the way it's gonna be, then I'm done here.
There is zero chance that in a fair election, Kamala Harris wins. I think we can all agree with that. We can all understand that, like, there's absolutely zero chance that that happens. But let's say she does. Let's say she does, or there's a situation in which she has to step in as president, which Trump was kind of alluding to earlier whenever he was like, where is the president? Who is the president?
Right now?
I haven't seen him. He hasn't made any speeches. Maybe he's sleeping, maybe he's dead. I don't know. Right so maybe right there, he was already suggesting the Kamala is basically running the ship as it is, And if she is the run running the ship as it is, then why is she waiting until she gets quote unquote elected
to start implementing changes. So that's where my mind goes, is that maybe she's already president, right or at least acting president, and then and then you know, we go to a war, well maybe at the beginning of that world war, beginning of that pandemic, or the beginning of a fucking ASTEROIDID in the earth, because God knows, there's going to be some kind of chaotic event that is going to lead us up to that. We've already talked about the different Avian flus that could be coming around.
We don't know. But let's say that there is some event that would postpone an election or postpone the results after the election, which I think think is more likely because I think that they only postponed the election if the election isn't going their way, which is inevitable, especially whenever you look at the polls. Elon Musk on Twitter, you know, he ran a poll talking about who's gonna win this presidency this year. It's like sixty eight percent Trump,
thirty percent Kamala. You're talking about one of the biggest platforms in the world, especially in the United States. I mean, forget the world. Yeah, I know, you got a bunch of people from all over the world that are really voting on that. I'm not going there, but just by the numbers, and especially if it is the whole world that is voting on that, there were millions and millions
of people that were voting on that. Right. If it is, then doesn't that just kind of show that not only in this country does nobody like you, the fucking world doesn't like you.
Right.
But to the question, though, if the election is stolen and Harris has announced the winner, do you think Trump would try running again in four more years.
Or do you think he'd say fuck this.
If the political system is just not going to be done fairly, then I'm not doing it.
Like where do you think he would really go?
I think that he would have an intention on running again if he was to take.
It jump in, by the way, raise your hands if y'all want to jump in on this one. I would love to hear feedback, But John then go ahead.
If he was to take it lightly, I think that he would intend on running again. However, I don't see this this dog walking away with his tail between his legs. I don't see that. And to be honest, would it be that crazy if Trump called for some kind of civil war, if he ended up like becoming so one hundred percent sure that the election was stolen from him.
Again, dude, that's the thing the Heritage Foundation with this whole agenda twenty twenty five that she kept bringing up that he had to say, I'm not associated with that.
It's a whole thing.
But the left is terrified of that, and they believe that that's the new far right equivalent of like the communist man effect. Still, okay, so they're terrified of him calling for a civil war of some type. But all right, Joe, Hey, your hand is up, Joelle, tell me what you think, bro.
He would definitely call for a At first, he would call from like a kind of like a civil war type of thing, but then eventually he would be like, let the cards lay where they go, you know what I mean.
So you're saying he would not take it any type of peaceful way of like, well, I guess I'll try again in four years, Like you're saying, it would be a mobilization at that most definitely. Damn Okay, zombie, what are your thoughts?
I think that it would have to be something critical to pop off a real civil war, Like if they keep if we magically keep having school shootings, it will come down to that, and probably the abortion laws and probably transgender rights will be the three top things that will push the country over into complete chaos and civil war.
You don't think the election being stolen would be a catalyst enough to cause a civil war?
I don't think so. Historically speaking, it would.
It would take it would The country's too weak as a whole, there's too many divisions, Like we would have to have something absolutely critical to cause it to be that way, and attacking the children is the likelyliest way to get a rise out of enough people to come together to cause a civil war.
War Okay, Okay, Spirit animal, Sam, what's your thoughts.
I really do not hope that there is a civil war, but I feel like this is gonna be the third one, and I'm actually really terrified.
So yeah, I really.
Don't think there's anything to be scared of, per se.
I think we need to be aware, we need to be cautious, and we need to have our eyes open, all three of them. Just saying, but to the situation around us, okay, In noticing your surroundings in your day to day life. For instance, on your commute to work, Let's say that something popped off in the city and you didn't know you you know, for whatever reason, weren't paying attention.
But today is the day shit hit the fan.
There's things that you would notice on your morning commute that would seem out of the ordinary. And I think at that point, when you see enough anomalies, we have to be diligent enough to get the fuck out of populated areas until we find out more information. Nothing to be scared of until you know for sure that there's something to be scared of.
All sad Joelle what you got, homie.
I completely agree, dude, like in regards to like doing like like the old school way of like experiencing like your surroundings and everything like that, like that like seeing like if something is afoot, doesn't like it doesn't matter, you know what I mean, Like you're gonna be able to see like what is like around you, like trying to see like anything like changes and anything like that.
I mean, we all got our black back and everything like that, like being able to all, right, something is different, even like what happened in twenty twenty with the like the hope ending make and everything like that, we all had our even though like like let's say we went to the supermarket and everything was on toilet paper and everything, we all still still had our back up where were able to like all back on. It doesn't matter what it was, but we're still going to be able to
like make it through. Doesn't matter what it was, what it is, you know what I mean?
Absolutely, dude, a little bit of preparation now can save your ass in the long run. And so and that doesn't mean being some sort of a doomsday prepper, although if that's the vibe you get down with, then hey, get after it and DM me some things because I love explaining and learning more about all that. But my point is just having a plan, any plan at least just thinking about what to do if this or that was to happen, is better than having no plan at all.
Carrying a weapon is a great option, although I know that some people can't do that depending on where they live. But that is not like a fail safe. That's not necessarily a solution to every problem. In fact, usually pulling out a weapon exponentially makes the problem worse, unless your literal life is in jeopardies and Unfortunately, most people carrying don't understand when life is in jeopardy and when it's just a really bad insult that you're getting roasted but whatever.
So to the point, have a little bit of a plan for what happens, just in case dot dot dot it can.
Go a long way.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with being prepared for something like that, but you know, I just have a bad feeling, dude, I And I don't mean to put out fear or anything like that, but these people are like, unfortunately, it's an extreme time, you know, like unfortunately, first of all, you got you know, basically the whole Democratic side that is willing to steal an entire election and then call everybody crazy for suggesting that.
Then you got them also saying that Trump was basically manufacturing the craziness that was going on in January sixth, When you know that there has been like cameras, there's been camera footage of everything that's gone on there. Whenever the security guards are literally opening the doors and the windows for these people to come in there, it seemed very very scripted. You got Nancy Pelosi not calling in the National Guard, not telling the local police to do
anything about it. Just let them, let them, you know, be the pigs and laying their own shit. And you know what I mean, Like they did absolutely nothing to prevent anything like that as a political move, and it's shown they're still using it to this day as a political move. They're talking about, oh, January sixth, it was just an insurrection. It's something that's going to go down
in history. Meanwhile, Kamala has said Jack and also, don't forget fuck about anything that's going on down to the border. She said absolutely nothing about any of her responsibility that supposedly she was some kind of zar. It's like she was running away from that kind of conversation. There was no kind of talk about she didn't even have a retort against Trump saying any of that kind of stuff.
So it's all, you know, it's all messed up. So basically, my my thing is is that I think that I mean, I really don't want to even say it to and start and instill any kind of fear or anything, but I just think that like these last couple of months might be the most peaceful months we have for a little while. If everything goes according to the New World Order.
Plan possibly nation boycott what you think?
All right?
Can you hear me?
Yeah? Dude? All right?
So I completely agree with Jonathan. I can agree with both of you, and I think even if Trump does lose, the other side might incite, insite a riot or false flag to you know, all usher in martial law something like that.
That's possible.
Yep.
That would go like include like adding to the chaos would be the legal migrants, like have them rise up like during it all that and then everything on the other side of the world is just escalating. It's been escalating, escalating, escalating since it started. Right if you didn't know, today Anthony Blincoln, our Secretary of whoever, is on his way over to Ukraine to be the Celenski to authorize long
range ATCMS strikes in Russia. So like that's scary, Like they're not slowing down and I don't even plan their plan is not to slow down.
Absolutely agree, Absolutely agree, brother Joelle.
What you got my dude?
Do what everything that this dude said before? What I was going to say, Bro, Like I've been in the medical fields since like for like for seven years, dude, and I kid you not do. I can send you guys pictures of the types of syringes that they gave us to inject people with the COVID nineteen And these syringes had coils at the end, like you don't need coils at the end of the syringes, like it was literal coils like at the end of the syringes. You know what I mean?
No, I don't. I don't know what you mean.
Explain so as a former electrician, when you say a coil, do you mean like a little bit of spun copper in a little like wiring coil or do you mean the syringe itself like curly cute at the end?
What do you mean, like like what goes like ail?
Okay, so you got your regular syringe, right, Yeah, every syringe has a needle at the end. Bum bum. You inject the fluid or whatever, any type. I've injected every type of fluid into every single person, TV whatever, doesn't matter what the vacciness I have injected into every single person. I can send you a picture and I have to
look through it through my gallery. But these injections with standardized syringe that they gave us to inject with people and ach oil at the base of every single syringe. So that means you couldn't cut into it, you couldn't do anything. You could do anything. It was like surrounded by the plastica and I consent to you.
Oh wow, so okay, So to prevent any kind of tampering from the medical.
Staff, yeah, dude, And it broke a little coil like it like exactly what you're saying in like in regards to like electronics this and that, I'm not too keen on that stuff. But every single syringe that they gave us to inject the specifically should I say the name of the brand or not?
Oh dude, there's a podcast for specifically it was Moderna Okay, specifically Monderna and had.
A set of syringes, came prepared and we would dry it on the vials. But every single serione that they wanted to inject the people with, they came with a specific I can send it to you with email, doesn't matter, I don't care. And in the chat, dude, I got you, bro'll senator for sure, like within the next twenty four hours, I got I just got to look for it. I fucking I fucking looked for I fucking took a picture within it you know what I mean, within the past two years, three four years, But.
It makes sense.
Moderna was the one name brand that was the first one acknowledge, at least in Baton Rouge and as far as I know the country that the medical staff was told they are no longer allowed to give any COVID vaccine uh from Moderna.
Then they said they had to pull back the Fizer one.
But Moderna they sent out a big ass company email multiple family members that work at the hospital, and it was like, wow, I guess the Maderna.
So the fact you're even saying that makes.
Sense, dude. I told my mother and I told my I mean my father. He was like pretty keen to like the woke stuff, thinking nothing like gay woke stuff, but like, you know what I mean, like woke stuff. But like my mom, she was like school stuff, blah blah blah, government and this and that. And I told her, I was like, let me give you the fucking the
shot with the regular styringe. Tell me when you're gonna get the injection, they'll give you the shot with the regular styringe instead of that weird syringe that we got from the box. The box that we got. You know what, I mean, and you're like, okay, so I gave her this that injection with the regular, regular, plain old syringe that you get like with an antibiotic, and yeah, dude, she's fine, She's okay, she doesn't have any bug and
that I'm not saying anything. But when I send you the picture, dude, and if you posted, if you posted, like on your Instagram wherever you are going to see, it's pretty sus bro. Wow, very suss dude.
That whole thing. My god.
They talked about that in the bait, the whole the job. We were in a big depression.
It's like, yeah, because a giant pandemic hit the country and the jobs that you all quote unquote created were bounced back jobs.
He mentioned that a lot.
He said bounce back like five times. He kind of got lost in it on that one. But it's true. They didn't see an economic surge. They saw people go the fuck back to work. That that wasn't Yeah, and then of course he leaving the economy in shambles. You mean when the entire world shut down. Yeah, that wasn't exactly a Trump problem.
That was a world thing.
Yeah, and you know, I you know, here's how you tell if something was was kind of planned out, in my opinion, if it is a continuous talking point for years and years and years, in my opinion, it is was something that was absolutely scripted. So especially if you can use it all right, well, think about like this, Trump's economy was absolutely phenomenal. Like before COVID, it was phenomenal. Everybody was reaping the benefits from it. Gas was down,
groceries were down. I mean, your the value on your house this.
Is taken out of our checks. That was nice.
Inflation wasn't crazy like it was all good times. So they had to do everything they possibly could to kind of wreck that whole thing. And if we are of the belief like we've stated plenty of times before, that COVID was kind of a scam and the everything that they did was absolutely like we could see right through it.
And even though a large portion of people in the world fell for it, unfortunate for them, you could kind of tell that, like, all right, if it was scripted, they would keep on talking about it because they're going to be proud of the job that they'd done. And it was on purpose. I look at this whole thing, like they probably put out COVID to say, all right, Trump, your last year, your last year and a half or whatever. Your economy went to the shitter. Everything was stuck, was
plummeting in the worst possible way. People were and all these jobs, right, And I just look at it like that, like they it was kind of like a like a joker card that they had to play. They didn't have any other good cards in their hands, so they had to do the most extreme possible thing. And I think that it absolutely benefit of them because they're still talking
about it today. So oh dude, you know, just like the January sixth shit, Like, if that wasn't planned, if that wasn't you know, something that that happened naturally, then I don't know if we're sitting here talking about it as much. And I don't know that it's brought up in every single fucking debate and every conversation that has ever had with Trump, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it just seems so scripted, dude to me, Oh dude.
And talking about the scriptedness of it all, she had to mention two hundred former conservatives that are now you know, saying that she's their candidate.
Then she brought up out of.
Nowhere talking about the economy and talk about all of these things Trump's plan there had been what was the number said, thirteen or something Nobel laureates that have said that his plan will do this and then okay, pause? Were those Nobel laureates in economy? Or did you go talk to al Gore and he said, like, let's keep in mind, like the Nobel Peace Prize has a very wide birth of who can get it. Did you talk to a physicist about Trump's economic plans and the geopolitics
of it all? Or did you talk to somebody of the Nobel society that knew what the fuck they were talking about and she, of course wouldn't mention it was all scripted? Are we do you think it sound like this was the thing, this was the truth? It's like, can you elaborate?
Are we talking about those same Nobel laureates that gave Obama a Nobel Prize even though he had no idea even why he got it, just like everybody else two.
Weeks after he was voted in or quote unquote, was was you know sworn in two weeks after he wins a Nobel Peace Prize?
Yeah?
Was he one of them.
Was he one of the ones that spoke and said that Trump's economic plan would be horrible? Because I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, I really wouldn't trust his judgment on that particular topic.
Look at what he did for eight years.
But you know, oh wait, the laureates are the people that have won a Nobel Prize or the people that give them out.
Laureates are the ones that have won the prize. Oh, there's nominees and then there's laureates.
Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that I was looking at that the wrong way.
Then I actually just did a bunch of research on the Nobel Prize a couple okay, see I was about to say a couple of weeks ago. It was realistically probably a year ago. You know how I am with you know, time being just a blur at this stage.
But anyway, yeah, no, So the what is it called.
It's not the academy, but it's like the group itself of the Nobel Society who determines who does or does not win an award.
It is very politicized these days.
It used to be something where if you made true innovations to a level that couldn't be refuted. You were awarded this and it was a big thing for your career, and it still has a little bit.
Of some some juice in it.
But I have seen so many amazing people with real groundbreaking dissertations that should have won the award that year but didn't for some celebrity because it was like more popular at that given moment.
It's like, it's kind of like, what was a Simone Byron? Was it?
Who at the Olympics did some shit that was so mind blowing that they had to change the rules because they thought it was too dangerous and like disqualified her. And she's like, okay, fuck you and your little Olympics, like because I'm too good for y'all.
It was that type of shit.
Yeah, yeah, let's get back over the chat here. Zombie said, we are more likely to experience an all out war from another nation or serious critical health situation that is killing millions before civil war. I agree with that. I guess I kind of went to the extreme on that, but you know, that's kind of what I was alluding to, is that there's going to be some kind of attack one way or another. But she said, we are technically set up for one for one by all historical markers.
We are on the cusp of multiple things happening at once that is moving us one hundred percent towards one world order. I couldn't agree more.
The only thing that I think would be holding us back from an all out civil war because I watch there's this guy on YouTube. What if Halt hissed? This dude, Rutyard. He's a great little political annist. And I say little because he's young, great political analyst, and he goes into history and has precedents and grafts to prove his talking points.
And he believes that America is on the cusp of a civil war.
The only reason why I'm saying we're probably not. And this might ruffle some feathers, This might hurt some people's feelings. Most people these days are pussies. I'm just gonna be honest with you. And it's not the same generation that once upon a gap took up arms to break away from the Union and secede and form the South.
They're like, this is a different day and age.
Most people are all talk and no action. I don't know would something like that be enough to motivate people. I believe protecting the children. Would I believe some sort of an internal invasion type situation like China coming across the border in drove, setting up camps and like manning up these these places all throughout the Midwest, and like some sort of internal thing happening. I could see that,
But I don't know. I'm afraid that with the way America's gone, so many people don't care about America anymore, because well, America was never great, that most people wouldn't actually stand to defend it.
I don't know.
I just it doesn't It doesn't give me a lot of inspiration looking at that as a possibility.
Yeah, it's you know, I don't I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just too much of a pessimist.
Maybe maybe people really would stand and fight and it would be a real real dust up.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, just look at how they handled the last few years and look at that, not as the extreme but as a precursor. And I think that probably paints a different picture.
But they've been allowed to do that.
Like you see that area of what was it not I forget if it was Seattle or Portland where they the Autonomous Zone.
Whichever jazz.
That was only allowed because the cops allowed it to go that far. If they would have gotten the call, like hey, fucking in this ship, that would have been over in a afternoon.
And yes, it would have been horrible crimes.
And I gotta trust I'm just saying that was only allowed to happen because they fucking let it.
Well, they struck while the Black Lives Matter iron was hot.
Uh huh.
Uh Joelle, I saw that picture of the syringe and he put it in you know what, I can share it?
Uh?
Yeah, yeah, I wanted.
To get your point on this, like, look at that coil at the no reason to have a coil.
Right up in here? Yep?
What the hell is that?
Is that? More for the the.
Sneed personal picture that I've taken with my by myself, myself if I get off. I've never been suicidal.
But you know what I mean?
Is that a spring? Like would it would it expanding when you push the plate?
No, dude, it's not even like a spring syringe where it's like it the needle comes out after you inject. I know what you're talking about, and I completely know what you're talking about, but.
No, exactly what do you believe one of our providers are one of our I'm not going to say her name, this and that, blah blah blah, where I work this and that, blah blah blah.
But one of our physician assistance saw those needles and said, no, I'm not going to get injected by that. Just give me the regular vaccine with the regular syringe that we have in stock. Just draw the solution with whatever I have, But I'm not going to get one of them and injection by Mattneil and that syringe that is not ever tracked retractable syringe.
What do you guess the reasoning for that? That spring is?
Like?
What is your what do you suggest?
Dude? I have never like all I don't know. I've given every single vaccine to any patient before COVID nineteen. I've given TV. I've given like what's it called, And that's not TV, that's the other one called like there's another there's another word for.
I mean, tons of vaccines out there, polio, every single one that you just said, I've given all those, but I haven't done that in like five years, right, But.
No fucking vaccine that I've given has had a retractable fucking vaccine as of my.
Knowledge, And like you said, that's not a spring, that's a that's a metal.
Fucking coil, dude, that's a fucking coil. Then, like you with your like electronic like knowledge and stuff, you know what I mean, Like, I'm not like, I'm not fucking like keen to that, but like me, when I saw that, and I'm like, oh, that's fucking sketches.
Fuck no.
So when you described a wire coil, that's why it was like thinking maybe it was like an electronic component or maybe like a chip or something they were implanting. Then when you said it was at the tip, I thought you meant at like the actual puncture tip that is inside the syringe itself.
I have no idea. And like, electrically speaking, there's there's nothing connected to that. That's that's just metal. But why the hell is there a metal coil Within the.
Fact that I shared this with you guys today, I want everybody to screenshot this right here, right now, fucking fucking like right here, right now. It's just fucking screenshot it everywhere and everywhere like that, you know what I mean. Like I fution like I've had this in my fucking in my arsenal for like many fucking years, and I never know where to share this ship. But that's freaking If anybody has any explanation like I, I fucking don't. I'm just the Medican.
No, if anybody does, Yeah, that is so strange. I don't even know where to begin with that.
Those syringes literally came with the fucking Monderna, and I don't know about anybody or any other company, but those came with them Moderna and we didn't even use them. We fucking like in No Passo, Texas, We're like, oh fuck, no, Mexicans looking, we're badass. Where We're gonna use the regular fucking fucking syringes that ship.
You don't work with that facility anymore.
Do you? And that and that facility is a not even a fucking government, it's a fucking it's a it's a fucking goddamn it family company.
So oh, it's a family owned it's not like it's a part of the NASH.
It doesn't accept national money or nothing like that exactly.
So that being said, they don't even have that those syringes anymore. So it's not like you could get your hands on one of those right now?
Could you?
Probably not? But I guarantee you like with like my heart on my soul somewhere to god, dude, like that my fucking picture that I took with myself.
Oh no, I believe you.
I just wanted to get my hands on one of those syringes so I could break it open and see what the fuck that metal thing inside of it is?
Right right, Gus from the boot. I saw you had your hand up there, sir. What's up dude?
Oh okay, No, we're good.
Okay, that's from the boot.
Yo.
What part of the boot are you from?
Brother?
Hey? Can you guys hear me or not?
We can?
Oh?
Sweet? Southwest?
Southwest? Like where?
Uh?
Lake Charles Area?
All right? Word up, word up? Okay, I know something to work out that way?
Cool beans?
Uh okay, Jacob, how you doing with Francine with Francine.
The hurricane or oh?
God? Yeah?
That I was yeah, yeah, we don't give two ships right.
I was like, oh my god, I'm so glad you said this.
All right, I didn't even know the fucking storm's name was Francceine. I'm gonna be honest with you with everything that's been going on in my life. I quit my job last week. I'm doing this whole thing. I'm doing the YouTube I'm rolling this morning. Yeah, appreciate you.
Dog.
I wake up this morning and I have like five different people trying to call me to ask me if I filled up all my gas cans and if I got a generator. I'm like, all right, hold on, pause, pause, is there like a real storm? I knew there was something brewing, but like, what's happening?
Look? It was like I didn't know anything at your Sunday. I was like, my boss called me. I was like, what the fuck?
For real?
Yeah, so say what's up guys?
No doubt? And so that all right? So I look around. I said, like, is a category one? Possibly a category two? And I'm like, fucking r like I got to do today?
Why are we?
Dude?
People are losing their minds here. They're batting down the hatches.
I see people buying every gas can at Low's and I'm like, y'all, worst case scenario will be out of power for like two days, You'll cook all the food in your freezer, You'll feast like a king.
Life will continue.
Everything needs to just calm unless you have like an old tree that may hit your house with wind.
Take precautions. Be smart.
Aside from that, like, bro, just enjoy the ride and enjoyed the unplugged society from a bit.
Got whiskey, let's got let's go, come on.
Yeah, come on now, proper refreshments. But yeah, dude, I mean honestly, for the past couple of years, I've been saying, and people laugh at me whenever I say it. I'm like, yeah, it's been a little while since we've had a good hurricane, you know, like I look forward to that.
Shit, It's funny, Jonathan, you just moved to Katie, right, Yes, sir.
That's fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, Gate when it went through last year, the last one.
Yeah, that wasn't really that big a deal.
I don't think that.
Yeah, that was pitiful. That was a pitiful little hurricane.
The worst part for us was that there was a certain area where all the electrical lines that went down or ran through a BYU. So it took this one area out by us like two months to get power restored. Now they got screwed on this too, because what Energy did was they offset the cost of all of the labor to do that, and they did it throughout the year.
So basically, these dudes are paying eight hundred, nine hundred dollars are electrical bills for like six months to offset the cost of giving them power back.
Oh, there's a whole fucking lawsuit.
And dude, we had to outsource that to other states because.
You know, Louisiana can't do that. We can't do that. Oh real quick, sorry, Jacob, I gotta like Jonathan. Yeah, I've got advisor because I know you hate him.
Ah.
Yes, I did ship on him. I'm sorry, I just you know.
I mean you ship on him.
I have been a Patreon member and I'm forever hell gus, and you were fucking Yeah. I get on the fucking advisors like god damn it. I can't wait to get on there. Fuck with Jonathan.
I'm like, I love it all right, all right, dude, holy shit.
I love you guys. You are fucking grave you know, all the rest of you cult members. Fuck oh y'all.
I love y'all, appreciate fuck you, I love you as it should be.
I guess my thing is is that whenever I picture people with the visor, I remember, like when we were grown up. You know, people would like put them on upside down and have the fucking bill all pointed, all stupid and backwards. And I don't know.
I thought, I've done it all. I've done it. Yeah.
I think the one thing that give visors such a bad rat there's two right, frat boys and boat dudes. And I don't mean just a dude with a boat that likes to spend his weekends on the water fishing.
Okay, that man's doing the lord's work. Leave him be. He's meditating, Okay.
Yeah, I'm talking about the ones that are like boat guys, you know what I'm saying, The ones that have like these ridiculous boats that their paint job matches their truck, and somehow they always are sporting a visor.
And it's like, I understand that it's.
A good, good use of a bill, but it's like it y'all make it douchey, you know what I mean.
But then.
It's holding it down for the the strong men wearing the visors.
I funk with it, dude, I gotta I gotta give respect. Sometimes I talk shit and then I'm confronted with it and I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean that.
All bullshitdn't have sided. This is fucking.
Samuel.
What you got dog?
Hey, Gus, dude, you look like the Louisiana Master of ros.
Yo.
Do you want dragon ball Z?
Gus Louisiana What now? Master? There's this TV show to anime called dragon ball Z. Long story short. This old dude who's an absolute beast. He's a master of multiple types of martial arts. He's got his own powers with him and shit when he rips off his shirt, come to find out, he's like jacked on jagged, but with his shirt on, he looks like a feeble, old white dude.
It's a whole thing.
Okay, here's what's up. I'm old, I'm a white dude. I'm feeble, but I'm a master of nothing.
Hey you go, that's master roach right there, Gus.
I could see it. I could see it. You got a little bit of hair on your head. This motherfucker got well, first off, is bald and his hair is his eyebrows.
So sam GOLLI fuck sweet.
Well, it's better to be a It's better to be a jack of all trades and a master of none than to be a master of one.
And very very true, that's the only way I've made money in this fucking life.
I'm gonna be honest with you. Let's get back to the chat. Let's see what else you got going on here. I'm with Cheese.
We are so I think I have over one hundred new messages. Yeah, you pick off.
I don't even know it, just like updated and went to the bottom. Oh here we go back to zombie. Zombie said, according to Georgia Stones that that were destroyed, that destroyed this all part of it to get to the One World Order.
Yeah.
Well, and and you also think like you think about the One World Order and the Georgia guidestones. Remember they wanted to bring the population down to five hundred million and then insane. Some people suggest that they tore them down because the objective was maybe not complete, but set in its right path.
It was getting ready to be enacted, so to speak.
Yeah, it was no longer a prophecy. It was playing itself out. You could point that way. Nation Boycott said, I think I do. Remember when I had to get vaccinated in the Navy. It was the Maderna and I remember it looking weird.
Fuck when did you get out, Nation Boycott? I don't know if they can unmute themselves. Oh probably, Yeah, they spoke earlier.
Ohther yeah, they got a.
Twenty twenty two.
Do you celebrate four twenty the correct way with your D two fourteen worth? Yes, wait, leave for like three months, so like, okay, you're on to terminal leave at that point.
Did you roll your first j with your D two fourteen?
I had a lot of stoner buddies that claim that they were going to do that on day one of getting out.
It actually so like my my squadron was on deployment when I when I got out, so it was really fucking weird. When I got out, I got my DD to fourteen in the mail, Like far I was already out when I got it.
It was fucked up?
Heard that?
What does that mean? That was DD two fourteen.
See your DD two fourteen is basically your freedom papers essentially when you join the military of any branch, and people are gonna maybe not like what I'm about to say, but it's true. You're selling yourself into slavery to the United States government for a term of four years active, four years inactive, or sometimes people do six and two
or uh. There's ways you break it down but it's always in the minimum of an eight year contract with the stipulation of the whole like signing a check up into and including your life.
That's not a joke, that's real life.
So whenever you get your D two fourteen, that is essentially your paper saying that you are no longer the property of the United States government. It's legitimately your freedom papers.
So they were just renting you.
Essentially you sold yourself to them for four years, eight years, whatever the case is, and that would be saying that your term of service, the contract that you signed with them, has been fulfilled and you're a freeman.
Yep.
That's why they can literally throw you in jail.
Yep.
Right, Okay, thanks Allen. Heck and nice said I forgot how to unmute the mic earlier, but since the topic has moved on, I'll just text on the Trump topic, says the reason why Trump is in power generally speaking, is become or is because he is the elite's trump card. So he says, whether Donald actually knows it or not, he will never quit. They probably know Trump better than he does. All symbolism, it's hard not to disagree with
the word symbolism. Now I will say say this, this was a speculative thought that I had had a while ago. Whenever we had your boy Mattie Ice on the show, and he has the wall with all the strings. It's been a little while. I think we'n have to get him back. But whenever, you know, there was the the Illuminati card game that almost clearly shows Trump being in that right, and then a lot of people will point to the back to the future and say, clearly he's Biff.
You know, he's he stole the sports book and he's the one that rigged it, and this is the world that he's gonna live in. I actually, I don't know if I totally disagree with that, But from a different perspective, I think that there maybe I don't think that he's actually like that personally. I just I believe that, you know, he's not anywhere near as evil as what people portray him as. However, it's not about who he is, it's
how he's perceived. And if you can make somebody look like a maniacal overlord, somebody who's racist, somebody's a bigot, somebody who's a sexist, somebody who is just overly enraged, well then you have a trump card that you're using now because if we are to go to World War three, well, now it's because of the monagal leader. Meanwhile, they're the ones that are kind of pulling all the strings in the back allowing this to happen. So it's kind of
a trap card trump card, same thing. That's the way I look at it.
And as you're saying this, I'm scrolling through Samuel spirit Animal at the chat drop this little nugget of truth.
Let's go over real quick.
Some of the organizations that have honored Donald Trump for being so oh so evil all that the National Jewish Hospital's Humanitarian Award nineteen seventy six, Jewish National Funds Tree of Life Award nineteen eighty three, Ellis Island Medal of Honor nineteen eighty six, Freedom's Foundation Presidential Medal in nineteen ninety five, Muhammad Ali Entrepreneur Award two thousand and seven, Unicorn Children's Foundation Shining Star Award two thousand and eight,
Palm Beach Police Foundation Palm Tree Award twenty ten. By the way, just so we're clear, there's another So when Trump receiving the twenty fifteen Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation Annual Commandant's Leadership Award, the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. He received that alongside Rosa Parks. But yes, he's such an evil, racist, maniacal bigot.
H Yeah, I mean, how was he perceived before he started trying to run for president? And how has he been perceived ever since then? And that kind of tells you all you really need to know, I think, because I mean we've talked about it, and plenty of other people talked about it, Like this guy was being referenced in rap songs, this guy was being loved by Joy Behar on the View before he decided to run for president.
He was being hugged and kissed and everything just you know, treated like royalty almost like every single time he would go and talk to anybody. And then all of a sudden he wants to run for president and he's just this evil, maniacal person and it just makes you to me, it makes it pretty evident that, you know, the rulers of the One World Order, maybe they didn't plan on that happening. So what do they have to do? They had to regroup, they had to come up with a
game plan. How can we make this guy absolutely horrible. How can we make sure that he doesn't get reelected? Well, let's say he's a racist. Let's say he's a misogynist. Let's say that he's you know, he's he's teaming up with Russia and and and boys with Putin. Let's say that, you know, all these crazy things that were never really talked about and actually have been proven not true time
and time again. Is it possible that they are over here just pulling every single thing they can out of their bag, because look, I mean, Biden clearly was incompetent the first go around. So that was you know that, I mean, in the in the first debate that we listened to. I think that that was kind of a you know, to to test and see, first off, how Trump's going to react during you know, said conversation pieces which we're actually gonna get to you here in a second,
because people have already written articles. You already know, CNN has a you know, a regrouping of how the whole thing went. And of course they're saying, Kamala clearly won. She she was just poking the bear and poking the bear, and he he fell for the bait and all this kind of shit. And god, so yeah, I'm the more I see it, the more I'm looking at it, like, you know what, dude, say whatever you want about the guy. He ain't He ain't one world order. I don't believe that.
And he straight up called them out for leaving Joe Biden in the streets like a dog.
That was his words, right, and you just abandoned him like a dog.
You stole the campaign from him, you stole the election, blah blah blah. And it's like ooh and once again, skirt right off that topic. They didn't even want to acknowledge that he said that. Moving on it was oh yeah.
Dude, it's bad.
Yeah, there's a I kind of wanted to get over to this article just so you know, we can see what the controllers are saying.
Says.
This is from It was literally they posted it right after the debate. It says takeaways from the ABC presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris baited. This is the first sentence. Kamala Harris baited Donald Trump for nearly all of one hour and forty five minutes of their first and potentially only debate on Tuesday night,
and Trump took every bit of it. The vice president had prepared extensively for their debate and peppered nearly every answer with a comment designed to enrage the former president. She told Trump that world leaders were laughing at him, and military leaders called him a disgrace. She did keep on saying that she called Trump weak and wrong. She said Trump was fired by eighty one million voters, the number that voted for President Joe Biden in twenty twenty. Allegedly.
Clearly he's having a very difficult time processing that. She said Trump was often out of control. He loudly and repeatedly insisted that a whole host of falsehoods were true. The former president repeated lies about widespread fraud in the twenty twenty election. He parroted against spiracy theory about immigrants eating pets and lied about that was I don't know where the fun I didn't hear that.
Yeah, that was out of fucking left field, like they're eating dogs or eating cats.
It says right here that there is no evidence of that.
Well, I don't know.
I saw it on TV, Like, all right, that wasn't that wasn't the smoothest of moves.
Yeah, you saw it on TV. You know, It's like I read about it on the internet, right, and lied about how lied about Democrats supporting abortions after babies are born, which is murder and illegal everywhere. He painted a dire picture of the United States, reminiscent of the American carnage he warned of when he was inaugurated in twenty seventeen. We have a nation that is dying, Trump said Tuesday night. Here are some quick takeaways from the first portion of
the debate. So it says I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but it says Harris sets the tone. Trump indulges in conspiracy theories fierce argument over abortion, a key issue for both candidates. Trump takes the bait over and over. They say.
Exact that the governor was quoted, and we did a whole episode as a matter of fact, showing his quote where he was talking about a baby that was in the process of being born being executed so that they could harvest the organ.
There was a whole thing on that. He went on a radio show and talked about it.
So not a conspiracy, Yeah, I mean, and the governor that he's talking about is somebody who you know, we've definitely referenced on this show before. Alex Jones talks about him all the time. The governor that's talking about, you know, we take the babies, we keep them comfortable, we keep them warm. Like that's the governor who's talking about as
far as like these extremely late term abortions. And it's like, all right, well, you keep them comfortable, you keep them warm, only to kill them, but you want to keep them alive so that their organs are still good for a little bit longer. Is that what you're talking about here?
That's not even a theory that's been widely talked about. And again they keep trying to skirt around it, they keep trying to avoid that it happened.
I'm oh, he cut out there.
I would.
I thought that he was gonna end the fucking conversation with like his closing remarks of like, let me ask you something, Kamala, would you get shot for your beliefs?
Would you die for your beliefs?
Because uh, I can say that I would, and like just drop the mic and walk away.
I expected some shit like that.
He kept a professional He did have a couple of pint moves. He did have a couple of pimp moves. You gotta say that he did.
He did.
I mean it was it was hilarious and great timing. But but yeah, all right, we are we are at our threshold and we have a couple of more shows to do tomorrow, so we must rest up here. Uh and Jacob, you have anything else you want to say before we bust up out of here, dude.
Uh.
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