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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

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Steven Hassan, PhD, is one of the leading experts on cults and undue influence in the world. A former member of the right-wing Moonie cult, Hassan was deprogrammed 45 years ago and has dedicated his life to helping people out of cults and destructive situations. Dr. Hassan is a licensed mental health professional and has written four books, including The Cult of Trump and the seminal book Combating Cult Mind Control. On this podcast, Steve will explain HOW mind-control works, and how to protect yourself from its grips. He will also address ethical influence as the podcast will address the entire Influence Continuum. He’ll interview the biggest names in this field.

Episodes

Alzheimer's, Dementia and on being wise consumers: A conversation with Germaine Odenheimer, M.D.

Germaine is a Geriatric Neurologist, Professor Emeritus at OU College of Medicine. Her career has been devoted to people with dementia and their caregiver. She became a caregiver for her mother with dementia. She was recruited to Oklahoma University College of Medicine to develop a geriatric curriculum for medical students and focused her teaching on recognizing and caring for people with cognitive impairments. She required all her medical students to participate in Alzheimer's support groups. A...

Aug 08, 202259 min

An Expert on Addiction and critic of 12 Step Programs: A conversation with Lance Dodes MD

Lance Dodes, M.D. is a retired assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He has been the Director of the substance abuse treatment unit of Harvard’s McLean Hospital, Director of the Alcoholism Treatment Unit at Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital (now part of Massachusetts General Hospital), and Director of the Boston Center for Problem Gambling. He is the author or co-author of many journal articles and book chapters about the psychology of addiction and the author of ...

Aug 01, 20221 hr 6 min

Lone-Actor Terrorism: A discussion with Jacob Holzer M.D.

Dr. Holzer was co-editor of the Oxford University textbook entitled Lone-Actor Terrorism: An Integrated Framework. The book is a scholarly endeavor to approach the complex subject from a variety of disciplines. I contributed a chapter titled, Understanding Online Indoctrination, with my coauthors, Jon Caven-Atack, Mansi Shah, and Simron Malhotra. With hundreds of mass shootings as well as other violent terrorist acts, it is essential to not limit discussion to banning assault rifles as solutions...

Jul 25, 20221 hr

Growing up in an Apocalyptic Cult: A conversation with Dr. Tricia Jenkins

Tricia Jenkins, Ph.D. is a podcaster and professor of film, TV, and digital media at TCU in Fort Worth, TX. She is the author of three books including The CIA in Hollywood, as well as Superheroes, Movies, and the State. Her new podcast, Worldwide: The Unchosen Church, features stories about growing up in the Worldwide Church of God- a doomsday apocalyptic cult. We talk about issues facing children and second-generation members born into cults. Details about Herbert W. Armstrong’s authoritarian c...

Jul 18, 20221 hr 6 min

The Moon Cult: an interview with former top American leader Allen Tate Wood

In the wake of the assassination of former prime minister Shinzo Abe by the assassin Tetsuya Yamagami, we are posting this interview. The killer was reportedly angered because of Abe’s family’s support of the Unification Church - aka Moon organization. Wood was a major expert testifying to courts including before the Supreme Court. Allen Tate Wood a former American Leader of the group talks with Steven Hassan in this must-watch interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adch...

Jul 11, 20221 hr

Child-Centered Adoption: A Conversation with Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao

Dr. Pavao is a psychologist, trained social worker, and licensed marriage and family therapist who is an internationally recognized expert in the field of adoption. An adoptee herself, she has been influential in moving adoption from a parent-centered process to a child-centered one. This in-depth interview is essential listening for all people who have been adopted, have a relationship with an adoptee, or have adopted a child. Open adoptions have become more commonplace and inexpensive DNA test...

Jul 04, 202257 min

The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC): An In-Depth Discussion with Marsha Gilmer-Tullis

Founded by John and Revé Walsh (America's Most Wanted), the National Center (NCMEC) is the major resource to help children in America. Marsha Gilmer Tullis is a trained social worker and the Vice President of Family Advocacy. For anyone truly interested in helping children who are abducted, being trafficked, or being abused, this non-profit is THE go-to resource. Their center has experts from the FB, to Immigration and is a fantastic entity that deserves not only praise and contributions but mor...

Jun 27, 202255 min

Understanding High Conflict and Proven Solutions with Amanda Ripley

Amanda Ripley is the Co-Host of the Slate podcast How-To and is the best-selling author of High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We & The Unthinkable.' This book was so well researched and easy to read and so interesting that in all of her research, it pretty much aligns with my experience. This is a fascinating conversation and helps to identify patterns characteristic of high conflict. She gave practical advice on how we can take steps ourselves to lower the temperature, and realize th...

Jun 20, 202257 min

Combating Sex Trafficking with Survivor and Attorney Carissa Phelps

A leader in the anti-human trafficking movement, Carissa Phelps is a highly respected and impressive advocate to protect young people from pimps and traffickers. She has an MBA and JD from UCLA, had a documentary, Carissa, and a book, Runaway Girl: Escaping Life on the Streets One Helping Hand at a Time, and a company to help train survivors on how to educate and help victims. Carissa invited me to a law enforcement training and the first curriculum for survivors, championed by Rachel Thomas cal...

Jun 13, 202254 min

Fighting for Victims of Multi-level Marketing (MLMs) with Douglas Brooks

Multi-level Marketing (MLMs) is a consumer protection challenge! The Direct Selling Association (DSA) is a powerful lobby influencing American politics. Attorney Douglas Brooks has championed victims of pyramid schemes and MLMs. We describe the critical things you need to know about to protect yourself and your loved ones. Are you concerned that Crypto uses the same formula as MLMs - buy into the “dream” of making a fortune? For creators and early adopters, yes, it is possible to make money. But...

Jun 06, 20221 hr 8 min

The horror of school shootings and where we go from here with S.E. Cupp

S.E. Cupp is a nationally syndicated political columnist, culture critic, author, and CNN political commentator. In this episode, we talk about the horrific recent school shooting in Texas and the root causes as we see them. She talks about how she used to repeat the same talking points as other Republicans and what can be done as a country to avoid these tragedies in the future. We talk about other political current events and how we maintain good mental health during these troubled times. Lear...

May 26, 202257 min

The importance of election integrity with Jennifer Cohn

Jennifer Cohn is a writer, journalist, and election integrity advocate. Since the 2016 election, she’s focused her professional efforts exclusively on investigating and exposing our country’s insecure computerized elections. In this wide-ranging conversation, we talk about her work and steps that all of us can take in our own communities to uphold the integrity of our elections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 23, 202258 min

The NXIVM cult with whistleblowers Sarah Edmondson and Anthony “Nippy” Ames

Sarah Edmondson and Anthony “Nippy” Ames are former members of the NXIVM cult but today are some of the most visible whistleblowers of the cult. They host the popular podcast “A Little Bit Culty,” and Sarah is the author of “Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life.” In this wide-ranging conversation, we talk about NXIVM and the attributes we also find in other cults. We talk about human trafficking (what NXIVM cult leader Keith Raniere was convicted of) and ho...

May 16, 202259 min

Living Well and Dying Well with Judith Stevens-Long, Ph.D

For this week’s episode, we’re focusing on the POSITIVE side of the Influence Continuum. I interview Judy Stevens-Long, Ph.D. Judy is a faculty emerita at Fielding Graduate University, where she served as Associate Dean for Curriculum Development from 2001-2008. She is an expert in developmental psychology and was my mentor for my doctoral program and oversaw my dissertation. Her research publications range from works on child development to work on death and dying. She is the author of “Living ...

May 09, 20221 hr 1 min

4th Generation Warfare and The Christian Right with James Scaminaci III

James Scaminaci III is an expert on 4th generation warfare. He has a Ph.D. from Stanford University in political sociology and is a retired US Navy Reserve intelligence officer. He was a senior civilian military intelligence analyst responsible for the Balkans and the former Soviet Union. Following the Balkan conflicts of the 1990s, from outside and inside the former Yugoslavia, James learned a great deal about how political and religious ideologies interact and combine into ethno-nationalist pr...

May 02, 202253 min

The roots of racism in the Christian Right with John Collins

John Collins grew up as “royalty” in the William Branham “Message” cult. He has worked tirelessly to understand and reveal its true history with the KKK and its influence on modern Pentecostalism today. He has authored two books and built an incredible website to expose the facts of this criminal, white supremacist, misogynistic cult. John helps us realize an essential part of American authoritarianism which to this day has an international following. By freeing himself from the mental and emoti...

Apr 25, 20221 hr 2 min

How we Fight Human Trafficking With Paul Chang

Paul Chang serves as a Regional Anti-Human Trafficking Coordinator at the U.S. Department of Labor – Wage and Hour Division. In his 25+ years with the agency, Paul worked on some of the most notorious cases as an investigator and Assistant District Director. He’s developed numerous training materials and programs that also utilize my BITE Model and Influence Continuum. He has also been on a special assignment to the White House Initiative on Asian Americans Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders...

Apr 18, 20221 hr 4 min

Traditionalist ideology: From Ginni Thomas to Vladimir Putin

n this episode, I interview Joe Szimhart. Joe is a cult information specialist I have known for decades. He is also an author and knows a great deal about psychology. Joe appears in the unearthed 1986 former member video I recently shared as a former CUT and Agni Yoga member. Like me, Joe is a former cult member who uses his experience to help others understand and reevaluate destructive cults. Joe and I talk about current events and cult behaviors we recognize all over the world. We talk about ...

Apr 11, 202247 min

Ginni Thomas’s Cultic Past

A tweet thread I wrote about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginni went VIRAL two days ago. I shared a video from 1986 few people have seen from a conference for former cult members. Ginni Thomas spoke in this video about her past experience in a cult. Ginni later went on to do a great deal of anti-cult work, but as is the case with so many former members, she joined a new authoritarian cult (The Cult of Trump). Steve is interviewed by Freedom of Mind’s own Dan McCollister about the...

Apr 02, 202255 min

Mind Control Used on Indigenous People to Colonize Them with Dr. Cindy Blackstock

Dr. Cindy Blackstock is Gixtan native in Canada, Professor of Social Work at McGill University, and Executive Director of First Nations Child & Family Caring Society. I collaborated with Dr. Blackstock for the presentation “Mind Control and Colonization.” With her help, I’ve come to realize that the same mind control I’ve studied for 45+ years exerted by cult leaders has unquestionably been exerted and is still exerted on Indigenous People. In this fascinating conversation, we talk about thi...

Mar 28, 20221 hr 2 min

Mental Health and Forensics: Psychiatry and the Law with Dr. Thomas Gutheil

Dr. Thomas Gutheil is an internationally known forensic psychiatrist and author of over 300 publications. He is a Professor of Psychiatry and co-founder of the Program in Psychiatry and the Law (PIPATL) associated with Harvard Medical School. In this interview, we talk about how he got interested in psychiatry, what makes a mentoring relationship ethical and successful, and most importantly, his help in helping to establish a clear understanding of undue influence which can be used to promote ju...

Mar 21, 202247 min

Christian Dominionism with Frederick Clarkson

Frederick Clarkson is one of the foremost experts on Christian Dominionism in the United States (“Dominionism” is the theocratic idea that Christians are called by God to exercise dominion over every aspect of society by taking control of political and cultural institutions). Fred is a journalist and the author of the classic "Eternal Hostility: The Struggle Between Theocracy and Democracy." He broke the story of Project Blitz, a coalition of conservative Christian groups working to enact Domini...

Mar 14, 20221 hr 8 min

Terrorism expert Anne Speckhard on ISIS and White Supremacy

Anne Speckhard is an Adjunct Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Georgetown University's Medical School in Washington D.C. Her research focuses on developing counter-terrorism initiatives and understanding the motivations of terrorists. In this talk, we discuss what ISIS members and white supremacists have in common and how effective counterterrorism efforts use psychology. Learn more about Dr. Steven Hassan's work and find more resources at his website FreedomOfMind.com. Follow Dr. Hassan on T...

Mar 07, 202250 min

Using Social Psychology to teach heroism with Matthew Winkler

Matthew Winkler Is the program manager for the Heroic Imagination Project. Founded by seminal social psychologist Philip Zimbardo (Stanford Prison Experiment), The Heroic Imagination Project provides training for individuals and groups using groundbreaking scientific research and experiential training workshops. Matthew Winkler has taught and mentored teenagers at middle schools, high schools, and colleges in New York, New England, China, and Japan. His viral TED-Ed video “What Makes a Hero,” sn...

Feb 28, 202256 min

Conspiracy Theories and how to talk to people who’ve become lost in them with debunker Mick West

Mick West is a science writer, skeptical investigator, and creator of the websites Contrail Science and Metabunk. West investigates and debunks pseudoscientific claims and conspiracy theories such as chemtrails and UFO’s. To help people out of these dead ends, he advocates a kind, patient approach similar to my Strategic Interactive Approach. His first book is Escaping the Rabbit Hole: How to Debunk Conspiracy Theories Using Facts, Logic, and Respect. Learn more about Dr. Steven Hassan's work an...

Feb 21, 20221 hr 4 min

The Jehovah's Witnesses Cult with Mark and Kimberly O'Donnell

Mark and Kimberly O'Donnell are former Jehovah's Witnesses who’ve become some of the loudest whistleblowers of the cult. They were prominently featured in the Vice Documentary “The Crusaders,” highlighting rampant child sexual abuse in the cult. They continue to speak out today and work with former members working to recover from undue influence. Learn more about Dr. Steven Hassan's work and find more resources at his website FreedomOfMind.com. Follow Dr. Hassan on Twitter here. Learn more about...

Feb 14, 202258 min

Terrorists are cult members with Malcolm Nance

Malcolm Nance was a career counterterrorism and intelligence officer for the U.S. government’s Special Operations, Homeland Security, and Intelligence agencies. He has over 33 years of experience combating radical extremism. While researching Al-Qaeda, Nance referenced my BITE Model in his book, Defeating ISIS. He (accurately) labels ISIS a terrorist “cult.” His latest book is They Want to Kill Americans: The Militias, Terrorists, and Deranged Ideology of the Trump Insurgency. Nance is a frequen...

Feb 07, 20221 hr 5 min

Positively influencing your kids with parenting expert Molly Brown Koch

Molly Brown Koch has been leading parenting workshops for over 60 years. She is the author of the award-winning book, “27 Secrets to Raising Amazing Children.” When I was about to become a parent, I read this book and have been relying on its wisdom for many years. At 94 years young, Koch has been a respected voice on ethical parenting for decades. In this conversation, she highlights her main ideas about parenting and shares interesting stories from her past. I have been recommending this book ...

Feb 02, 20221 hr 1 min

Opening Minds, and The Cult of Scientology with leading authority Jon Atack

Jon Atack is generally acknowledged as the world's leading authority on the cult of Scientology. He spent nine years in the cult, training as an 'auditor' and becoming 'OT V.’ He’s the author of the definitive biography of Ron Hubbard, “Let’s Sell These People a Piece of Blue Sky.” His new book "Opening Minds," is a must-read that helps explain undue influence and in particular, how to protect yourself from predators. Learn more about Dr. Steven Hassan's work and find more resources at his websi...

Jan 31, 20221 hr 4 min

“The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” and the censorship of mental health experts in the media with Dr. Bandy X. Lee

Dr. Bandy Lee is a forensic psychiatrist and a renowned expert on violence. Dr. Lee taught at Yale and Yale Law School from 2003-2020 and became known to the public by leading a group of mental health experts in breaking the silence about the dangerous mental impairments of Donald Trump. She edited the book “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,” with 37 experts weighing in on their concerns about Trump. She’s been heavily censored in the media due to the American Psychiatric Association citing “T...

Jan 26, 202247 min
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