Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the crypto news podcast. It's your host Matt Zahab. And we have another special guest locked and loaded we have Chris Adams who is coming back for round two. I had an incredible chat, back in May of 2021. May of last year with Chris. He was dropping knowledge bombs left, right and center and spoke to us about his
incredible company dreamer. And now for the intro Chris Adams is a serial entrepreneur with an unshakable belief in the limitless potential of the human spirit is the co founder and CEO of dreamer, a technology platform with the mission of making the pursuit of our biggest dreams and aspirations more practical. Chris is also the host of the dreamer podcast, and is one of the few people who actually does what he says he's going to do. And he has really helped people pursue some of
their biggest dreams. And if you want proof of that, you can find them on social media, especially tick tock, where you will see that coming to reality. Without further ado, I'm very pleased to welcome back to the crypto news podcast, Chris Adams. Chris, welcome back to the show.
Matt, thank you for having me, man. And you're too confident and credible intro appreciate you.
Hey, thanks. Thanks for coming on back when I was was I still am a scrub. But back in the early days when I was, you know, begging for people to come on the show. And, and you politely accepted. And here we are a year later. Well, not quite a year later, but 10 months later, you and the team have accomplished a hell of a lot. you've launched a successful token, you are expanding the business, you have a bunch of new lines, revenue streams popping off. And I'm super proud of you and the team.
I think that's a great place to start. Tell me a bit about what you and the dreamer team are up to nowadays.
Yeah, it's it's incredible. The kind of the run that we've been on since I spoke to you last. I didn't realize it had been it was that long ago, I thought it was later in 10 months, AKA a lifetime. But no, it's it's this year is really we're focused on growth, we just hit the 100,000 users mark on dreamer platform, which is a big milestone, obviously. But we've our awareness of really what we've become, which is I think more of a movement than
anything. The awareness of that is growing on social media to where the audience reaches in, you know, the 10s of millions, we're getting 100 plus million views a month, you know, Dream related content that's created by our foundation, our imagery received Foundation, and we're ready to basically, you know, onboard the next 900,000 We'd like to go to a million this year. And yeah, I mean, that's that's a big focus for us and, and continue to make dreams come
true. document that. And, you know, our, our content has been the big growth driver for us. That's really what we've tapped into more than anything. Since we had our first interview, is we really found a sweet spot in, you know, our, our foundation, you know, making an entrepreneurial, like dream come true. The first one was do Richard Hutchins who was an artist who was known, you know, back in his day, but in his you know, currently was homeless.
And his dream was to restore his name like we throw him apart show we lost a Shopify store, he sold like 50k worth of prints in just a few hours. And you know, the community coming together around this dream was able to greatly impact this man's life. And then we did it again with a young man named Matthew, who is an incredible entrepreneur has cerebral palsy his dream is to walk was born a preemie doctor said you know he didn't have much of a chance would be a
vegetable type thing. And he's he's out there chasing his dream proved him wrong every day. And his launch was like 150,000 In a few hours. So our community has has come together as why I call it a movement now. And it's I love these stories because it's like it's it's representative our whole of our whole mission. You know, to where your dream the dream is in your heart. It's possible no matter your current circumstances are the hand your
dough. And our foundation through its work is out there proven and our communities proven that and I think it's the It's a powerful thing that has has set up. You know, really the foundation of the success of our whole business right now,
Chris, really happy for you and the team. And you guys have truly done an incredible job. Now, the part that I'm incredibly curious about is the content aspect. Now, when we chatted 10 months ago, I asked you about the importance of homegrown user generated content back in the day, and you guys still hammer away at that point. As a fellow marketer, I understand the
importance to this. But I'd love if you could give me sort of some inside secrets, some tidbits, some knowledge bombs, what do you got for me when it comes to really growing your platform via content?
Oh, man, I wish I was the most qualified person to answer this. I'm fortunate enough that I have as my partners, there's two marketing geniuses. My co founder, Dreamer Ashish, who is a two time number one bestselling author, you know, in India, in this regard, and he's self published his first one, you know, and then I had Charlie, who is I'll call him a master at community
building. Like he's, he did it back in the day with his career, for around musicians, who's a music manager, people like two Chainz. Like, he knows how to kind of foster that. That initial community that will grow. I'm trying to write a book about it one day, but the so I'm fortunate to have these two guys. And all I knew going into this was that the best way to market our platform would be to go make dreams come true. Like, that's just what I knew on a high level. And I can't even
take credit for that idea. You know, I think it was just something that like, came to me in meditation one day, and it's just something that I just believe, and so that, that belief led to me making a big bet on Charlie, when he wanted to relaunch the Dream Machine Tour in 2020, during the middle of COVID, which is also what we were launching our app, to where that just made sense. And we found success on that first tour with with Hasbro coming in and making like a really big
donation was 400 plus 1000. And gave us access to like, all the toys we wanted to give away. And, you know, it was around that idea of they knew we would make content out of it, you know, they were interested in that because, you know, they give every year but nobody knows about it. And that's the opportunity that they saw with artwork there. So, you know, that's, that's how we approach it. But the point of it is to really show what you're about, like content is where people's
attention is. So number one is, as when thinking about this, I think you just have to approach it from that perspective. And then start far as the importance of it, what it what it's done is, you know, the users that that content brings in, for us, it's those people like want to be a part of something, they're there because the content inspired them to either pursue their own dream, or to be a part of a community that is making big things like this happen
collectively. And so what it's done for us growing that way is really get the right people in our community versus you know, if you're running ads and things like that to acquire users, you know, you can dial in under demographics, I understand that stuff. But there's I guess there's just a more organic stickiness that happens going about the content way.
And speaking of those mediums, you guys absolutely popped off on tick tock tick tock is I guess its peak is probably when we spoke last year, mind you, it's still growing like wildfire, but like, what's the secret sauce for tick tock besides creating some chaos content, because you guys clearly know what you're doing on that platform.
It's its format, its format and iteration is what I've seen, you know, it's really credit to Charlie and his, like, he's the one that 1000 on that stuff. And the team around him but it's, it's been so there's a few things that are like they're gonna sound like basics, but when you just apply them to what it ever is you're doing. That's called fundamentals for a reason, right? It's it's
storytelling. First, so like the first thing that started going viral on Tik Tok was Charlie would pull up to a Starbucks and like through the when you place an order through the speaker would ask the barista what their dream was, and just say what is your dream? And then you get some like wild answers. And then then it became so like that was one of the first things to like go because they found something
new Interesting. And then whatever the person's dream was, like, he could help come take the fourth step for like $500. Or like if it was like under $1,000 and just do it. So there'd be, you know, like an interesting question. And then you split it to like a part to really that little cliffhanger or the dream completes in the second piece. So then, like speaking to the iteration, they started really going viral when he waited until he got to the window, to ask them what their
dream was. So that way that whole interaction was in person. And so it's just like, really paying attention. Yeah, he's intuitive, and at the same time analytical, right? So it's like, once one thing wins. He's like, Okay, how do I like tweak that? To basically give people what they're telling me they want, but take it to the next level. And it's just I just did that over and over and over. And it's crazy, man, it's like every other video was hitting a
million plus, it's bigger now. I mean, now it's like 6 million plus followers on Tik Tok. And, like, in like a year, bro. Like, like, I think it's a little longer than that now maybe like 15 months but it's the growth is incredible. And it's the the thing that really drives it for me and why it just it makes so much sense is all that content is around dreams. You know, he Charlie's is like a human type of follow. So he's he's doing the work he's passionate about and being a philanthropist
living on his dreams. It's like a beautiful thing.
He definitely a lot of fun to watch. And that was a great speaker, by the way. Now, very curious to understand why you in the team decided to go to crypto route. Now, I think I have a good idea of it. But tell me more about it. Now let's let's take a couple steps back. The app is very clean. I'm a member on the app myself, I have
no complaints. It's a great way to showcase your dream and to have you know, a big team cheering you on as well, everything you'd really want in regards to chasing that dream. You guys have done that? Why the crypto route? Why launch the token? Tell me about the ecosystem as a whole? Was this part of the plan from day one? Like walk me through that whole sort of roadmap?
Gotcha. Great question. So that yeah, the token has, was originally integrated as part of the roadmap of actually during like, the more beginning of the like the long bear market that we had, it was like 2017, when we kind of started thinking about a token aspect. And we started thinking about it, because and thank you for, you know, the
kind words about the app. So to me, the app is pretty much still kind of in its MVP phase, like the core concept is there, you're declaring your dream, you are building a community with our tool, Dream connect. And that's, to us the foundation of really pursuing any dream is get a core group of people around you who are aware of what you're doing can give you feedback, and like you said, are cheering you on, or you know, that is we it's a positive place, you're
building that support system. So relationships are enough to achieve your dream, no doubt. But when we really started getting user feedback, you know, what our users told us, and testers told us, this, again, is back in 2017. That without ways to, you know, change their situation financially, whether that be to earn money, or more money, or, you know, to be able to raise money, they didn't feel like dreamer was like a full stack solution to pursuing their
dreams. So then came the understanding that we needed to build that on the blockchain, for reasons that I believe your audience probably already knows. But, you know, reasons like transparency, being borderless, you know, wanting to build a global community, you know, Blockchain is really the perfect
fit there. And then the reason we decided to do a token is, you know, we really want to build, you know, not to sound cheesy, but a platform that is for the people, you know, by the people, so we want to give that ownership and that control over to our user base. So that's why our token is the governance token. And we are, you know, we took a third of the supply and that's strictly being given out via like an in app rewards system so that it goes to our
most active users. And so that's the token route and the reason for those that direction. You know, feel free any follow up, sir, but I think I covered it
100% And, of course, there's the financial aspect to it as well. You know, it's a big part of any token, speaking of the token, the token is DMR token. Now, you and the team
launched that last year. And it's not easy launching a token, I have been part of copper myself, it is absolute grind, it has banana lands, there are always things that go wrong, you have to have contingency plans, you need to have your ducks in a row, the big marketing campaign in the launch, whole nine yards, walk me through your launch phase, what you guys did the right way, what you would have done differently, and just general lessons in regard to launching a token.
So the, I have a lot of lessons. That's the what I'm really blessed to walk away with from our launch. But it you know, I love lessons. So I'll be happy to share that. So we when approaching our, our token, so just to give you, you know, some layout of it, I'm, I'm from the United States, I'm based in Las Vegas, and my co founder, she
she's from India. So both both places, where, you know, just launching a token, from a legal standpoint, definitely need to take everything into consideration Be patient and go about it the right way, right. So there's probably a year plus of really just getting all of those ducks in a row to make sure that we're compliant and
safe, right. And then you know, how to go about it is a something that's kind of ever shifting in the crypto world, if you know, you went from ICOs in 2017 to you know, then like initial exchange offerings, right, and then defi has come along launchpads, you know, you could, and then there's like VCs are in the game now, too. So, we want it to be the most blue chip
that we could about it. So we went the route where we, you know, got found some institutional partners, very reputable, I believe I talked about in the last podcast, you know, in, went about it, where we had a private sale, and then instead of doing any kind of public sale, we just direct listed on pitch Expo. So that's how we went about it. And then were unfortunate, our token
crashed. But where the lessons are, there is, you know, we we only had one group that had basically unrestricted tokens in that regard, you know, in the first 90 days, and a crash in the first 90 days, so it's the lessons learned there is, you know, being blue chip, the intention there was, you know, we know, to build and scale everywhere, it's going to take a
lot of funding. And it's, it's tech, you know, and apps, things like that the model isn't necessarily like, especially in a social product, you know, monetize on your way up, it's like, grow first, and then, you know, monetization catches up eventually. So knowing we have to raise a lot of money, and eventually start getting institutions involved. That's the route we went. But if I could go back and change something, what I would change is I would go just the 100% defy
route. Because really, more than anything, it's it's true to who we are what we're building. You know, I think it's something that I've gotten really good at not doing in life, but I guess, you know, in business, as you know, Matt, you know, there's the rules of the game, right? So I just wanted to go about it in a way that made us look appealing to people that I knew we'd need to be in front of, or would be in front of in the
future. But, uh, yeah, the defi route and doing like a fair launch to our community is how I would do it now. And what's interesting is the advantage here is the token price is, is very cheap now. You know, it's, it's well below the price anyone ever got it? Right. So we kind of have that opportunity now, to do a fair launch within our community. So that's the approach we're taking. We are you know, we are launching the decentralized NFT Launchpad
right now. Now we're gonna need to stake DMR to get access to some really exciting and exclusive drone ops and raffles, things like that. But, you know, we're basically giving out DMR to to let people participate in there. And then as we the token crash, set our roadmap back a little bit, but we've got funding straightened out now. And you know, we'll be building The whole economy around DMR and activating governance within our
platform. So it's a absolutely fine that the token crash we're about to recover, I think we're close to 150%. And over the last couple of weeks, something like that, but, you know, we've, uh, it's something that happened, but it's something that we're I think we're embracing and moving forward with it.
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crypto news 50. To take advantage of this offer crypto news five zero to receive 50% of your deposit credit to your trading account. Now back to show with Chris. I love that a little bit. And again, I appreciate you opening up and I appreciate the candor. It's very rare nowadays. And I do want to touch on a bunch of the really cool and awesome things that you and the team are about to launch. But I do want to hammer home a couple more points regarding launching a token and
the token omics. Now, one of the things you talked about was, you know, tokenomics, and that cliff, now that the cliff refers to the time in between, you know, the private sale or the IDEO or whatever the case may be that when the token is available to purchase, and when the purchasers finally get a fair share of their tokens right.
Now, in a lot of tokens that get launched a lot of ICOs ideas, you will see that the founding team doesn't get their tokens for years, some investors won't get their tokens for years and other will get them in 90 days, like the case of DMR. Now, what's your two cents on that? Would you I know you said you would have done things
differently there. But how important you think on the consumer side how important you think it is to really go down the nitty gritty rabbit hole of really lurking that companies token Onyx.
I mean, it matters, it definitely matters. It's, it's, what's interesting is that something that we did put a lot of thought into my my two cents on it now is is really like, like take any kind of trust, just out of it as a factor. You know, like if you if the team wants their token price to appreciate in the first 90 days, six months, then everyone will be locked. You know, that's the
only way to do that. You know it because investors who have unlocked tokens aren't patient enough to uh, don't you know, what, what really took me back in this is why it was something that I felt, you know, even going back would have been really hard to plan for is like, we launched our token, and our platform really came out the gate, just like putting up numbers, you know, in the first like, 30 days, we doubled our user base, like after launching
the token. And so, you know, I always looked at launching a token, kind of like, being in the public market in a way to where, you know, although beta access has some guided access, you know, we're on uniswap as well, like, I figured there would just be a balance there.
So like, the whoever has unlocked tokens, if they're not willing to wait until proper liquidity is built in that market, then, you know, you can run into a situation like where I feel like you have with us where we've got a great product, a hit and a lot of senses in the things that we're going to build next, like our roadmap is really
good. You know, and but our market price doesn't reflect that because we had parties who were, you know, obviously some big bag holders, but it didn't even take, I don't even think, you know, really took several million tokens with us having to crash it like it did have but the the reality is that if if they're not believers in the project, then nothing is gonna stop them from liquidating, liquidating those positions and ultimately hurting the project. So That's, that's the thing, you
know? That's the thing. There's still that human element of this stuff, right?
100% 110%. And yeah, you got to the workflow should always be first and foremost, you believe in the product or the service. What's the roadmap like, check the tokenomics? Check the team, have they delivered something in the past that doesn't have to be crypto related? Sure, that helps. But if they have past business experience, you know, within a successful organization, helping an organization grow, obviously,
that shipment was the needle. So those are a couple of the couple of the things you want to look forward to. But speaking of roadmap, you and the team have some really cool stuff planned. I know we sort of briefly touched on it. But I'd love if you could give me a more sort of in depth roadmap of what the token holders and just anyone who wants to get into the ecosystem, what they have, you know, locked and loaded in to look forward to?
Yeah, yeah, we have an exciting year coming up. So I'll just go ecosystem wide with this. So right now, we're currently in the process of launching our decentralized NFT Launchpad, which is called Dream starter. If you want to check that out, it's dream starter.co. Co. And the point of that is to kind of come to the launchpad
space in two directions. One is really empowering creators, so people who have exciting things going on, or you know, even dreams that we felt like I think about this musician, we have the king cow, on the last Dream Machine Tour in the Las Vegas stop, we were able to put him on stage at the Life is Beautiful Festival, which is one of the biggest festivals we have here in Vegas. And but we never got to do like that community
participation for him. So someone that has the talent and is doing something pursuing a dream, and can leverage NF T's but needs a technical help, will be a solution and a spotlight for that. And then also, you know, really hot and if T projects will be looking to involve our community and you know, we'll vet those. So that way people who participate in can be assured that there's no rogue poles in all of this is going to be governed by a DAP.
So as we were talking about with the token, you know, the intent for that is to be at the governance function of our platform. So ahead of that, with the launch of dream starter DMR holders are going to form the dream starter Dao and we're gonna get our reps in on the governance, kind of before activating it on the dream of platform which will be inevitable once you know a certain percentage of that community supply is distributed. So very excited about dream
starter. What I'm loving about it is we're going to get to add a ton of value to people participating and really build on quantum like the new VC adventure community and back some exciting stuff and then you know, we're going because it is adaptable and adding in defi elements of being able to stake NF T's and things like that that launch on the platform and earn a yield of it. We'll see where we go from there but a very excited about dream starter on
our Media Foundation side. Our spokesperson Charlie shout out to my brother Charlie Lowe that too just signed a deal for a dreams come true TV show. It's gonna be executive produced by Steve Harvey. That will be you know what my heart Yeah, man. So it's been there's been a relationship with Steve and Charlie for a while. You know, the the artist Richard dream was talking about Steve Harvey came in and bought one of his paintings, you know, they were currently richer on his show.
There's a actually been a really cool deal already in place where Steve Harvey shares the content going viral on other platforms on Facebook, coming on Facebook, and been doing like a revenue split. And that's been a really nice stream for for our foundation. That has helped a ton. So with that proof of concept, Steve Harvey back in a TV show. And yeah, going for you know, big time like American daytime network. So you know, one of the three letter words
out very excited about that. And obviously, you know, that's going to spread a lot of awareness about dreamer and increase our our reach time. So just, you know, it's a big reason why I'm confident we'll hit that million user milestone this year. And then comes the
app updates. You know, like I mentioned, there was a slight setback on our roadmap, just due to the token crashing, that was a big, big plan for that was to allow those markets to develop and, you know, hopefully be able to use that to build out what we need to build out either paying dabs and tokens or however, have no partner Ashish oversees that, so I won't be going too much.
But now that we have that sorted, you know, just activating our our in app wallets, activating that they already exist, but just activating them on the UI side, letting people claim their rewards tokens. You know, opening up our NFT abilities, I don't want to let creators mints entities right within the app. And that plays in well, with our peer to peer marketplace that we've moved up in our roadmap as next to basically kind of help the blossoming like work for yourself economy that's
happening. Go. Can we talk about that for a second? Have you have you heard about this thing called the Great resignation?
You mean in the States or when quitting a job?
Yeah, yeah.
100 percent. That was that the COVID kicked that whole thing off. And this is my theory, when it comes to this COVID happens. Trump and Biden start handing out STEMI checks. Once everyone gets their stimulus check, they finally start to realize why am I working a minimum wage job? Or what? Why am I working a job that I hate when my boss parades me where I drive an hour to work each day, when I can make literally my whole salary and half year of investing mind do that was one of the best years
of investing of all time. 2020, right, you know, the first not three months, but March and April were a shitshow. And after that, it was up only. And that really, I think sort of switch the paradigm of people being like, I'm going to value my time over money. And time is the most scarce resource on the planet. It is non renewable. And it is the one thing that people on their deathbed always talk about, I wish I spent more time with X, Y, or Zed or I wish I told you, I love them, whatever
the case may be. And people don't want to work shitty jobs anymore. And COVID really kicked off that revolution. And here we are. Now you have the great resignation, people are understanding that you know what the technology we have in today's world and with how globalized and decentralized at the same time, I know, it's a
bit of a paradox. But with how globalized and decentralized the world is becoming, it's quite, I guess I would maybe be ballsy and throw the word easy out there to do your own thing, right? There's so many different ways that you can make a living nowadays, especially with the internet being as powerful it is. And people are realizing that man, that's that's the case, right now,
what an incredible time to be alive. Because I mean, I'm so glad that I just let that stream without, like, go there. Because what you just said I couldn't agree more. And, you know, even hearing it from you just makes it said in more how much the product that we're building right now is you know, there's a need for it, we're, our goal is to be a full stack solution for pursuing your
dreams. So, you know, when you have a economy and just a global situation, and I think it's really more inward than anything COVID made the world Stop it made people evaluate, you know, and then when they went back to work, they realized that, you know, I had to cut that but it's a people learning to value their time is a perfect avenue, you know, to start pursuing a dream, start pursuing the thing that's gonna make you wake up and be happy of the things you have to
do that day. And, you know, fill your life with passion and purpose. That's what a dream provides. And, you know, build a nice financial pieces is, is really just such a core to it, because, you know, our marketplace, that would be just monetizing any skill you have. But the marketplace is other
dreamers. So, you know, you could barter with somebody who maybe could help you advance your dream, or you could just help them, you know, you're helping someone's dream and earning money at the same time. And all of this is peer to peer. You could form a team on there and then raise funds for the project that takes the team even, you know, charitable stuff. And that kind of platform that enables collaboration and action like that, you know, you can achieve it on the internet.
There's tools, but there's there's not that like platform that would do from your idea from step one. And that really makes those first steps more practical rather than like be confusing trying to figure out your way now, you know, which is the entrepreneurial path?
No, I totally feel you there that Chris and I were getting tight for time here and always a pleasure speaking with you. This is a tough question what needs to happen for dreamer to ever become a Facebook or an Instagram or Twitter or tick tock? I know that's a goal of yours and the team's it's definitely doable to balls, you want it to lofty One. But that again, there's no point in having goals if they're not
ballsy and lofty. And with that being said, what do you in team need to do with Domino's meet the fall, what in a hole needs to happen for you guys to hit that big dog level?
I kind of feel like we're at Big Dog level by we're, we're, we're in the conversation.
I mean, like, top top four kind of thing. You know what I mean? I'm Oh,
no, no, we're talking, we're talking. Like we have, there's Apple ambition, Google ambitions, you know, social networks are cool. But I again, I'm like full vertical for pursuing your dreams, which means there's the social communication aspect of it, I want to be the biggest and the defy aspects of that. And also, there's an educational piece to it. So the platform where you can realize your potential to really sum it up, like that's
the goal of dreamer. So at this point where he talked to me, because this is my dream, like, it's just a matter of time, is it one foot in front of the other process for me, and the roadmap is really laid out and just the things that I'm telling you, you know, we we have the awareness piece figured out. So now it's execute on the tech. And then it's continuing to do
what we say we do. And what we've shown that we do is in reinvest in our community and the people that are dreaming with us, and we stick to that formula. I think we're we're in that conversation the next few years.
Amen. I got nothing to say you shut me up. either. That's, I appreciate ya know, I had to ask him one last thing I want to talk about meditation when I had you on 10 months ago when I spoke about spirituality meditation. I have not been good when I was meditating couple years ago, and you know I did for a week in the summer and felt great and then you know, shifts shifts really hit the fan
again was getting busy. It was actually sort of the same time I fell in love not really fell in love with discovered NF T's back in early August. And I would wake up and I was so excited and had such big fire under my ass that I would just you know, run to the computer, turn the kettle on, make espresso and bow and you know, it was didn't have time for me present. minute, I was just being present and NF T's. But tell me a little bit about your present day meditation practice. I know
you're big on it. Last time when we spoke about it, you've lit a fire under my ass. And a couple weeks later, I started up. And it was good for a while. But again, walk me through that meditation practice. And how long are you doing? TM? Were when give me the whole nine yards on your meditation practice.
Yeah, thank you. Thank you for bringing this up. This will be probably not the answer you're expecting of. So I've never really done Transcendental Meditation TM, I'm more like just quiet the mind approach. Kind of there's a there's a kind of magic that happens. And I still do it from time to time, there's a magic that was when you could shut your mind off, you kind of go from transmitter to receiver there, which is a very cool, insightful and brings you into
moment experience. And then I enjoy that because it's something that would help me just kind of stay intuitive more throughout my day and keeping balance. More recently, I have switched to a visualization approach, where it's, instead of just completely quieting my mind, I'm on visualizing goals, and visualizing what it feels like to be at the end of that goal, you know, having achieved it. And that has been a it's a
pretty profound shift. But that's kind of it gives me the benefits I'm looking for from meditation and also keeps me focused on the end goal, which I found to be a powerful combination. So I definitely recommend that and it's it's something that, to be honest, can be achieved in you know, two, three minutes, especially if you have experienced quieting your mind and it can do that rather quickly.
While said there yeah, there's so many good references. And teachers you can learn from Tim Ferriss was the first one who sort of got me into it backwards, I don't know probably 10 years ago when I went Read the four hour workweek and and I'm a big fan still probably of all the podcasts I listen to he is his is the most listened to on my behalf but Chris would a show really appreciate you coming on really proud of you in the team and still really looking forward to
meeting in person. Hopefully we can hit it up in Vegas. And I know you reside in beautiful Nevada What a treat that must be. But before we let you go, can you please let our listeners know where they can find you and dreamer online and on socials?
Absolutely, man, thank you again for having me. Let's definitely meet up in person and for anyone looking to check out dreamer our main website is dreamer spelled D R E A M r dot app a PP. blog is dream universe.org. And then, you know on socials we're dreamer dot app on IG and dreamer underscore app on Twitter. And check out the dream starter Dow also dream starter.co and dream starter Dow on Twitter. Yeah, man, I
appreciate it. And, you know, I'm looking forward to the next one already when I can record on all this stuff. So appreciate you having me here.
Hey, man, thanks for coming on, Chris. And I'm sure we will have you on for round three. And maybe we'll just keep the clock rotating 10 months from now and beautiful December. We'll have you on for round three. But until then, all the best and thanks again for
jumping on. Folks. This was the crypto news podcast great episode with Chris Adams, founder co founder and CEO of dreamer what a great episode Chris is always dropping tons of knowledge and not too often do you actually get the follow your dreams and his team and his organization are really helping everyone do so if you enjoyed this episode and I really hope you did please do subscribe it would mean the world to my team and I to the team love you guys and the listeners love you more
than you all know keep on growing those bags. Keep on making some cake and keep on staying healthy, wealthy and happy. Bye for now. Thanks again for listening and we'll talk soon