Crypto Rundown: Fed Decision Update, New ICOs That Are Getting 2-5X Returns!

[SPEAKER_00]: Alright everybody welcome back to the crypto 101 podcast presented by Gemini your bridge to the future of money It is a special edition of the rundown We've got Brian. [SPEAKER_00]: We've got Joe. [SPEAKER_00]: It's Friday. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a moment of money makers edition and we couldn't be more excited to have you guys here a lot going on this week. [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover the Fed.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover some macro news You know, we're gonna give you that kind of bullish side of the fundamentals that we're always seeing [SPEAKER_00]: but the momentum money maker boys are here. [SPEAKER_00]: And again, do they ever not come with winners, guys? [SPEAKER_00]: These guys were giving out winners over the last couple weeks inside the community. [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking two, three axes. [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover those.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's some awesome news around ICO's prediction mark. [SPEAKER_00]: It's diving into the fun stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: The memes are still alive. [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever people are telling you if they're telling you they're not, they're lying because Brian and Joe are having winners. [SPEAKER_00]: So again, macro news, then we're gonna dive into the fun stuff as well on this Friday afternoon.

[SPEAKER_01]: fellas welcome back Brian how are you yeah man I'm great dude happy to be here on a Friday You know what one of my favorite things to do with the gig are these rundowns and it's even better when we have a Friday rundown [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is, it is always better, especially when the sun's out. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking outside looking at the sun. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a dolphin will swim by who knows Joe. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you, my friend?

[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, wait, a dolphin is swim by. [SPEAKER_05]: You have a nice view. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like looking at, you know. [SPEAKER_05]: We were live. [SPEAKER_05]: I forget who I was with one day at Dolphin. [SPEAKER_00]: It was you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Dolphin jumped out of the water. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this is the dream of you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys think there's dolphins.

[SPEAKER_01]: You got three minutes and we started talking about dolphins.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got much different views here in Oakland, but yeah, it's felt like a wow, miss you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it hasn't been a while since all three of us are together, but that's why you listen to the crypto one on podcast good vibes fun and hey, if you study hard enough and you know get obviously it's not personal financial advice, but maybe you two can podcast with dolphins out your window one day.

[SPEAKER_00]: Getting the winners that Brian and Joe are giving everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just kick it off. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll bring up coin market cap. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what's going on here. [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit of uh just kind of choppy price action this week. [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover the fed decision in a minute But is there anything that jumps out off off of the pricing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say it you don't have to say today fellas, but anything over the last like week or so that's jumped out to you that's been interesting [SPEAKER_01]: If there was a mentioned market for how many times I've said the word choppy over the last 60 days, I'm probably over 100, for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like every time I'm doing a newsletter or on the run down or doing a market update, I'm just talking that we're going to chop for a while, we're going to chop this is choppy. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to probably say choppy over under 25 times today because we're going to continue to chop in my opinion. [SPEAKER_01]: I do believe once we kind of gain some footing in the market, probably get over that 94.95 mark we could get off to the races.

[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to chop for a while. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we will be in the 80s a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll be in the low 90s. [SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of bullish reasons to think that we get out of this range sooner rather than later. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm personally trying to just manage my own expectations that, you know, we got some holidays here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was hoping for Santa's rally could still happen, but [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter at the end of the day because there's so many bullish things we're going to talk about it that we will push over to all time highs in 2026. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very convinced of that, but we're going to chop for a while and that's exactly what the market's showing. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what these numbers are showing. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we overall had a great year.

[SPEAKER_05]: Even though it doesn't feel like it. [SPEAKER_05]: So there was a lot of profit taking a lot of people doing tax loss harvesting. [SPEAKER_05]: I know I got to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: So approaching end of year doesn't look the best, but we had a pretty good year. [SPEAKER_05]: And 20 like Brian said, I'm super excited. [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's everyone's calling. [SPEAKER_05]: As of this week at least, everyone's calling for a super cycle in 2026.

[SPEAKER_05]: It just came out of nowhere. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to cover that. [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of our guests have kind of talked about that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm referring to Matt Hogan. [SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't listened to Matt Hogan, go back, listen to it. [SPEAKER_00]: Cosmo, Jank, Pantara, Capital, go back and listen to it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of been this growing theme of the super cycle, the four-year cycles over. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a super cycle.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's elongated cycle. [SPEAKER_00]: There's but we gathered some more obviously friend of the show, Tom Lee, and we got Kathy Wood. [SPEAKER_00]: We got some sound bites kind of referring to that. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll cover that, but we'll, we'll skip out the price action. [SPEAKER_00]: Not too much to cover. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm always got my on the fear greed. [SPEAKER_00]: I know we. [SPEAKER_00]: We were touched and extreme fear, not that long ago, right there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember on the show, I said, you could bet your bottom dollar. [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get back up into the 20s. [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are, kiss in 30. [SPEAKER_00]: But the fed guys, the Fed cut 25 bips, not a surprise. [SPEAKER_00]: We covered it here, you know, talking about the prediction markets. [SPEAKER_00]: It was 95% I think going into the decision that it was going to be 25 bips. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was, but there was a tidbit.

[SPEAKER_00]: guys, there was a tidbit that was quite more interesting than they cut itself. [SPEAKER_00]: The Federal Reserve is going to buy $40 billion worth of treasury bills. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're somebody that's like, well, why is what number one, what is that, and why is that important? [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of, at least what I took away.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to pull up this tweet from another friend of the show, Kyle Chasse, who we've had on the program, not to recently ago, he came on and did an episode of Brendan. [SPEAKER_00]: and Bryce, he kind of spelled it out really good.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what a lot of the talking heads were saying. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, the 25 bips, everybody knew that was coming, but it was kind of buried a little bit where the feds gonna buy back treasury bills. [SPEAKER_00]: And so some people were saying, oh, well, is this quantitative easing? [SPEAKER_00]: Some people call it soft, quantitative easing. [SPEAKER_00]: As somebody myself who really enjoys cracking or being a nice crispy diet soda could we call it diet QE.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that just basically shows that the Fed is a government entity that is putting liquidity into the market by buying these tea bills and kind of again what we're going to talk about after this and show you some clips of is like okay if this is a long-gay to business cycle and you know the economy's healthy and the Fed's putting liquidity into the market like that's [SPEAKER_00]: That's the stew that risk assets fly on.

[SPEAKER_00]: So again, it's not a huge dollar amount per se. [SPEAKER_00]: And well, but it is happening. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's happening wall kind of the dot plot is the dot plot refers to all the Fed governors. [SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of all over the map and disagreeing. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, okay, well, while they're disagreeing of where and what to do, they're putting liquidity into the markets. [SPEAKER_00]: very interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Open discussion here, Brian, you first, any thoughts around this topic, just kind of as a whole. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's definitely interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the traditional stimulus that we're used to. [SPEAKER_01]: The Fed says purchases are meant to manage liquidity and keep markets functioning, not to really ignite a new rally. [SPEAKER_01]: But on the other side, the bullish side of things, just like you alluded to, it increases liquidity in the financial system.

[SPEAKER_01]: what happens when we increase liquidity in the financial system usually risk on assets like stocks like crypto perform well historically they're correlated whenever we increase liquidity these assets continue to perform well. [SPEAKER_01]: So I do lean a little bit more bullish. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a I'm a perm bull so you know I try to get all the bull starts out of it. [SPEAKER_01]: phone problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I do lean. [SPEAKER_01]: This is increases liquidity.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is gay. [SPEAKER_01]: Bring on more risk on assets, but it's it's not a traditional stimulus by any means, either. [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing at there. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys know that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's something to keep monitoring. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, once If it really goes downhill and they start pumping liquidity in the market a lot of times that might actually not even be good. [SPEAKER_00]: It means they're they're fearing that something's broken.

[SPEAKER_00]: The most interesting thing and we didn't get to do our live show, Brian, we've done that. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the last two Fed meetings. [SPEAKER_00]: We had the the summit this week. [SPEAKER_00]: So just a lot of stuff in the past.

[SPEAKER_00]: probably for the best right for the best we might we might have lost on our our prediction markets for for what he was going to say but we have a lot of fun doing those so we'll try to bring him back when we can we just had a busy week this week but I think that the number one thing was people were like oh he's going to be hawkish I thought he was pretty straight down the middle and the biggest kind of quote from it was hey we're trying to balance both mandates here

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, full employment and, you know, in inflation, engaging inflation. [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, those are two main things are kind of fighting against each other right now. [SPEAKER_00]: It's an awkward place to be. [SPEAKER_00]: We're just trying to best to file the data. [SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, an un-eventful, uh, I guess other than the, the, the, the diet QE, if you will, kind of an un-eventful fed meeting as expected.

[SPEAKER_00]: Does it lay the tracks for Santa Claus or Alice? [SPEAKER_00]: Some people say yes, some people say no. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to wait and see, but it is kind of just leads us kind of what we said is this elongated business cycle. [SPEAKER_00]: And if that's going to be if that's going to happen along with liquidity and lowering interest rates, it's like it is kind of the perfect cocktail of all that's we have two clips here.

[SPEAKER_00]: The first one will play is Tom Lee again, just kind of [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, saying how crypto crypto prices are tied close to the ISM kind of just comparing it again to the business cycles. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's hear a friend of the show time. [SPEAKER_03]: like 20, 26 is a year like, there's a new fit, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And what a double-ish tilt. [SPEAKER_03]: And at a time when the ISM's been below 50, for a record more than three years.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's really good for small caps. [SPEAKER_03]: And as Barry says, if they be regularly banking and we were trying to find, that's really good for small caps. [SPEAKER_03]: But that's also really good for the business cycle. [SPEAKER_03]: And we talked about this in some of our past research, crypto prices are really sensitive to the ISM.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the ISM moving back about 50 has this dark limit associated with [SPEAKER_03]: actually super-second move from Bitcoin and Ethereum. [SPEAKER_04]: I estimate going into expansion territory as positive for Bitcoin and overall interest. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so if you look at ISM and Bitcoin and UD trend, Bitcoin essentially look at its distance from the 200, it's almost perfectly correlated to the ISM. [SPEAKER_03]: So, guys, I'm saying the same thing with copper.

[SPEAKER_03]: to gold prices. [SPEAKER_03]: So copper's an industrial metal versus gold as a month. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but all of that tells you that it's basically just risk on, that they're all behaving like an economy.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it was at a, am I overcarrying? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's, I think that's right. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it coins a bit of a canulion because they'll probably be a time when it, it acts like gold.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right now it acts a lot more like extensive to monetary policy and the business cycle and both are not to turn up So that would mean anybody who thinks the big coin or your cycle means crypto prices are down next year We're betting against that thinking that new highs come early [SPEAKER_00]: Fascinating stuff from Tom Lee again, similar sentiment to getting extending the business cycle the for the four year crypto Bitcoin cycle is dead.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kathy Wood, we have it from Kathy at a while. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's check out what she has to say and then we'll discuss. [SPEAKER_02]: Bitcoin is behaving more like a risk on asset. [SPEAKER_02]: It has played the risk off for all at different times. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, during the European sovereign debt crisis, during our regional bank crisis, but right now it's risk on. [SPEAKER_02]: This is, it is climbing another wall of worry and that is the four-year cycle.

[SPEAKER_02]: We think the four-year cycle is going to be disrupted and what I mean by that is Bitcoin regularly drops 75 to 90% in its early days. [SPEAKER_02]: the volatility is going down. [SPEAKER_02]: It's down about 30, some odd percent and I think there's a fear of the four-year cycle. [SPEAKER_02]: We think that the move by institutions into this new asset class is going to prevent much more of a decline. [SPEAKER_02]: We may have seen the low a couple of weeks ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think it's important to kind of share the narratives from the talking heads that, you know, our thought leaders in the space and they obviously have a bias, I think we can all recognize that, but these are the

[SPEAKER_00]: for as a producer of the pod when you're bringing on the mad hogan's in the cosmo janks you know you see these guys on cnbc alongside kathywood and tomley it's like when they start all kind of independently saying similar things it's like creating this new narrative that [SPEAKER_00]: Um, in my opinion us being so close like boots on the ground like we are we're kind of okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the narrative that's coming like I think we're. [SPEAKER_00]: We're early on getting these narratives. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys is momentum money makers in the trenches are the earliest on some of of those, you know, quick trades that you're doing right, but on a macro scale. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like us as crypto 101. [SPEAKER_00]: We're we're.

[SPEAKER_00]: really following these narratives and this is the narrative that's being kind of been built. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the last like four to six weeks during this turmoil and it's I think it's going to spread. [SPEAKER_00]: So again, whether it comes true or fruition, again, we always say nobody has a crystal ball, but I think it is really interesting that everybody's kind of in their own way coming to this similar narrative.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've been calling about this end of the four-year cycle for a long time now, for a lot of good reason. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, just the institutional money flowing in, it definitely feels like a different situation than what we've seen in the past.

[SPEAKER_01]: So personally, [SPEAKER_01]: I do believe I'm on the same page is what Kathy would say that this was probably we're not to see a four-year cycle at typical, you know, 70-90% drawdown, the volatility is going to close on the majors. [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to give you a tighter range. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just too much traditional money flowing into these assets now. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the de-gens that, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: are aping in every four years and out.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot of institutional money is a lot of just smart money flowing in. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's good. [SPEAKER_01]: It's good. [SPEAKER_01]: Tighten the gap. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the four year cycle is on its way out, personally.

[SPEAKER_05]: That helps. [SPEAKER_05]: So you just brought me back to some dark days. [SPEAKER_05]: What an open my wallet for two and a half years and 2017 to like 2020. [SPEAKER_05]: But that's why this cycle, whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: You're right for the to four-year cycle to be this team, the my opinion is is great news and right we've all to at administration this year, I've bullish news from administration and institutions coming in.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it has moved down of 34% like Kathy is saying, no, we're used to seeing water swings. [SPEAKER_05]: So this is very mild. [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm excited for this new time. [SPEAKER_05]: more personally because I've been through multiple psychos and even during the dark days, which we mean Brian's live through and everyone's live through. [SPEAKER_05]: There's a ton of opportunity and that's what we excel at.

[SPEAKER_05]: So Macco-wise is always going to be looking my opinion bullish, that's why I'm a permable, but there's always wins. [SPEAKER_05]: You can just watch where the money goes. [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say on a macro level, in the streets on where we are, there's movements where everyone is kind of hedging their bets, right? [SPEAKER_05]: When the macro goes this way. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's kind of where we, you know, make our living.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's exciting to see that we're hitting a lot of those. [SPEAKER_05]: This cycle around. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: There's always opportunity. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, again, from the macro market level, it's there's always something new. [SPEAKER_00]: And the institutions are here and we've covered all these different ETFs and products that are now tradable on all these different platforms and it's like, you know, sometimes

[SPEAKER_00]: There's still a lot of leverage obviously in crypto so like back it's flushed out and there's all these different products and all this different leverage so it's like It is it is changing again Brian said it best is like hey the volatility will dampen down over the course of what we saw in history of the past but it's

[SPEAKER_00]: There's always something new and there's always some curveball that you got to try and digest and again plan your trades and trade your plan But that does the bulls are here and I don't know if Brian knows this guy personally self-proclaimed permabal But somebody's opening up a half a billion dollars and longs

[SPEAKER_01]: our guy who wrecked the market on October the 10th I believe that's if he basically shorted the heck out of everything on October the 10th and he was the guy he made a killing but super interesting that now he's long. [SPEAKER_01]: And what's he know that we don't know? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we can't copy trade a guy like this, especially when, you know, he's got billions of dollars. [SPEAKER_01]: He's throwing it around.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I found this extremely interesting guy. [SPEAKER_01]: I threw it on our sheet because this was, if everyone remembers on October the 10th, that was that massive liquidation and leverage got wiped out. [SPEAKER_01]: This wallet in particular was absolutely shorting Bitcoin, like a madman air trump wheel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, maybe we all kind of laughed at it at the time because that we were we were still really had our bullhats on at the time, but he nailed it and now seeing them send with 600 million and now he has another fresh 500, these numbers are like unbelievable, but he's longing a bit coin Ethereum in Solana. [SPEAKER_01]: It just makes me kind of think what's he know that we don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really copy trading among leverage, but it definitely an interesting point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, when you start seeing numbers like that, you know, you got to at least bring it up and understand that, you know, you got to part of the news flow, but I heard you mentioned Solana we got some interesting news on Coinbase and Solana does it I don't know who put that on the sheet, but you want to break it down because this is actually I thought some really interesting just kind of unlock here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, I feel it on the sheet because I know Solana is integrating with Coinbase Joe. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know if this is live yet? [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't checked. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I know, Solana is doing the break point meeting right now. [SPEAKER_01]: So is this where they announced it?

[SPEAKER_05]: I believe it's live, at least on Coinbase's end because what I've read is that I haven't experienced myself, which I actually should try to do this because I have both right base and Solana is that you can only buy Solana on on to the base network, but you can't you can't do it opposite like you can't bring back those tokens back into the Solana network.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to look into it, but it's great for it's great for the ecosystem overall, so I love this information. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's it's awesome. [SPEAKER_01]: It's great news for Coinbase. [SPEAKER_01]: It's great news for Solana. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just going towards that next movement where we talk about people don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: Retail people don't care like what chain we're on in bridging and swapping.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pain in the butt to be completely honest with you. [SPEAKER_01]: So as we improve user interfaces, make it easier to trade.

[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, a lot of the time we don't [SPEAKER_01]: What exchange and things we just trade the stock, you know, and that's how crypto needs to develop and it's great to see Coinbase integrating these Solana tokens because there's there's a learning curve there to buy some of those Solana tokens And now to integrate it on like the number one centralized exchange in the United States and it's only going to improve makes me bullish for not only Coinbase, but also Solana.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when you say learning curve, it kind of reminds me of all the different tutorials that we have on the crypto one one podcast YouTube. [SPEAKER_00]: I know Joe, I think had a fan of what one that blew up Brian, we had you make the [SPEAKER_00]: What was the app that I'm saying? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, who's shy? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember I was like, it came out and you're like, dude, this is how you do it. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, get me a tutorial now.

[SPEAKER_00]: That thing popped off. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so if there's anything new on Coinbase up, I'll look into it. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Brandon needs some new tutorials, but it sounds almost too easy. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's no tutorial needed. [SPEAKER_00]: But we have all that stuff, educational wise over at the crypto, 101 podcast, YouTube, speaking of YouTube, we are live. [SPEAKER_00]: The chat is popping. [SPEAKER_00]: We have a ton of people here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Access is key and now coin bases giving you access to Xlana. [SPEAKER_00]: There's another company. [SPEAKER_00]: Some people might know called Vanguard. [SPEAKER_00]: They're giving you access. [SPEAKER_00]: The Bitcoin ETFs as we've covered. [SPEAKER_00]: last year. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't or they won't let you do it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, uh, it's not, you know, it's not an investable asset. [SPEAKER_00]: Then they flipped CEO fired.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gone. [SPEAKER_00]: And now it is. [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can go on your brokerage. [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can invest in Bitcoin. [SPEAKER_00]: But Vanguard says Bitcoin is still a speculative digital and I quote toy. [SPEAKER_00]: And so I say Vanguard sells toys.

[SPEAKER_00]: What is this toys are us is Vanguard's Vanguard's thing is a ship right what are they going to trade that out for Jeffrey the giraffe like what are you doing Vanguard selling toys now like a big coins a toy and you're selling Bitcoin so Vanguard The steward of capital and the steward of wealth [SPEAKER_00]: and they're selling toys, boys, what do we think here? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it fair to now offer it? [SPEAKER_00]: So you take the alley offer it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now you want to get into the flows, but you're still gonna like, take shots at it? [SPEAKER_00]: What do we think here? [SPEAKER_01]: First off, go to tweet by the crypto 101 podcast right there. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see this come out today, and whenever I was going over the sheet, I was like, looking at this, and again, another legit laugh out loud by me whenever I saw Vanguard sells toys.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, get out of here with this stuff, you know, they open up the books and the five gates of their customers, the bad Bitcoin, and now they're calling it digital toy. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even really have a good take on this, otherwise they kind of makes me mad. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, toys make a ton of people spend noins and doons on toys, so whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great point.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just I just feel like everybody at Vanguard whoever's like making these decisions making these press They're just sitting around on a table and like any time anybody says something they're like, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a toy, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: So that's just how they all. [SPEAKER_00]: There's just one of the people on a table. [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, I bit coin. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a toy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd say put that in the press, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: Like what?

[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know what's going on over at Vanguard. [SPEAKER_00]: They need to take a page out of the Franklin Templeton.

[SPEAKER_00]: They went laser eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing the memes like come on get go with the program go with the program. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean there are other intern who runs their page got obviously body bags by crypto one and one podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: literally right now they need to figure some stuff out unbelievable the ship is sinking just at this point just add I think the toys are us at a business just you can go get the IP for Jeffrey the giraffe and it could be van guards new logo [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're having some fun on a Friday boys. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's tell you who's not having fun on the professional level transition is do-co-on, do-co-on sentenced to 15 years in prison.

[SPEAKER_00]: For $40 billion stable coin fraud, the famous guy who said 20% APY guaranteed, but Doquan how he said don't worry about it, 20% guaranteed now he's going to prison. [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't a like diehard Doquan follower fan anything, but any of you guys have any thoughts on this well deserved, excited, sad. [SPEAKER_00]: What are your thoughts for not friend of the program, Doquan? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I didn't think it was personally. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for that during that time. [SPEAKER_05]: I've had friends who got involved. [SPEAKER_05]: Made some line of loss of money, but I say, yeah, view is doing crime, then good for him, getting 15 years. [SPEAKER_01]: I got a buddy that got absolutely rinsed on Paraluna, so, you know, I don't wish ill on anyone so I'm not going to say it or put them on record, but the prosecutors wanted 40 years. [SPEAKER_01]: He got 15 and probably for some good reason.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this went on. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys remember, but this is like a multi-year saga that included like a global man hunt where he was like popping up on Twitter and certain interviews and they were

[SPEAKER_01]: actually got it on back to the United States and it was like this whole thing and it was like with somewhat like trolling Right federal prosecutors at the end of the day so they got them and he he he he caused a ton of damage 40 billion dollars worth it It wiped out billions of dollars to retail people one of my close friends destabilized major funds and it caused like a complete

[SPEAKER_01]: triggering cascade credit unwind and put us into pretty much it was like that what it was what lit the spark the spark that lit the bear market of 2022 and back to that bear market of 2022 or like whenever people were like people call this a bear now or are we in a bear?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if everybody remembers 2022 but there was like no news [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember we were just watching paint dry I felt like at least when we wake up today we'll go over the bullish news later and I think there's tons of news coming out every single day that makes me like my permable feelings. [SPEAKER_01]: are endorsed by all the great news that's coming out. [SPEAKER_01]: The bear markets of the past, they were rough. [SPEAKER_01]: There was just no news.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody was talking about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have stuff like, Tara Luna going down, you got the FTX debacle. [SPEAKER_01]: So very, just wrapping this all up, he probably deserved it. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't wish poor on anybody, but he caused a lot of headaches. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I definitely remember the trolling and I think I don't want to speak for our fearless leader Bryce, but I I think we were I think it was on a show or the summer or something.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just might have been bumped into him, but he's just saying like, you know, just the like the cockiness of this guy was like unbelievable like staring down the barrel of what he did. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again. [SPEAKER_00]: We weren't the, uh, we were not the judge, we weren't the jury, we weren't the lawyers, but, uh, 15 years for, for Doe Quance, maybe we'll, we'll catch him on the back end.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe him and like, him and Billy McFarlane can get together in like 20 years and throw some type of crypto festival or something, that could be, that could be quite fun. [SPEAKER_00]: But we'll transition into the momentum money maker segment. [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, this is why you love to join in for Brian and Joe.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much bullish news on the macro level, but in the momentum money makers, we have our crypto navy seals in the trenches looking and finding and giving the people winners. [SPEAKER_00]: So guys, we're going to go over a bunch of stuff in the momentum money makers kind of world, specifically stuff that they gave out that were winners in the private group, literally the last couple weeks, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're interested in getting the first alerts, if you're somebody who likes to get educated on this stuff,

[SPEAKER_00]: So you can get educated and make your own financial decisions because that's what we're not financial advisors just a couple friends talking crypto, but we do try to educate and part of the education is these first alerts if you're interested in those scroll down the description I put a link there for some trials and you can get into the momentum money makers world if you're interested in this first alerts you can take action on stuff like we're going to talk about now fellas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, with some winners, again with some winners in the choppy markets, tell us about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess start just one off. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we saw ice-yos not kind of doing a small comeback. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, a lot of those didn't go well in the past, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: But with all the talk of institutions coming in and the current market, you know, memecoin is definitely don't have the momentum and people are looking for stable or, you know, bets is speculate on. [SPEAKER_05]: And we did pretty well with Monat off the bat. [SPEAKER_05]: We did like a two X on that. [SPEAKER_05]: We never mentioned that. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think on the on the live stream. [SPEAKER_05]: And that was just the first launch on Coinbase's launchpad.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then this one, this was called, this hook was called wet, which is pretty funny.

[SPEAKER_05]: But the actual company's got to humidify, and this is the first launch on Jupiter's launchpad. [SPEAKER_05]: A Jupiter has launchpad. [SPEAKER_05]: But the difference between this one and Monad was Monad was launched at a $2.5 billion valuation with no revenue. [SPEAKER_05]: like, but people pump that up to X. [SPEAKER_05]: The humidifier on the hand launched at a $56 million valuation.

[SPEAKER_05]: So multiples less, but they process over 30% of Solana's decentralized exchange volume. [SPEAKER_05]: So people saw that as a super undervalued. [SPEAKER_05]: It was selling on a pre-market at a ready 2X the pre-ICO price. [SPEAKER_05]: So really interesting story of how this developed because [SPEAKER_05]: a lot they offered a lot of the token allocation to the public, but it completely got bought it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So then we don't have to tweet up here unfortunately, but both Jupiter and Wet, he metify came out and said, screw those bots, we're not giving him anything. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to quote and quote kind of, they didn't fork the chain, but they they come, they relish the token, put it your theory, I mean, people don't know this, probably, but your theorem is actual fork. [SPEAKER_05]: And there are like screw those bots.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're not getting away of anything and created a completely new token. [SPEAKER_05]: That was hilarious. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they did another public sale, which was great, because a lot of our community members, they tried to go for the first one, they're like, oh, we couldn't get it. [SPEAKER_05]: That's sort of second one.

[SPEAKER_05]: had like a 90% success rate where, you know, at least they verified that a lot of bots didn't get a 90% of it actually went to actual people trying to get the token. [SPEAKER_05]: So kudos to those people because not only did they get a two X, you know, which was what the pre-market was selling at, but it was actually a four to five hundred percent gain from, from the launch.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that was good win for our community, just good win for chup and salon overall and, you know, it was just a funny story and it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been trying to like, Joe, and this is almost a question for you. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been trying to like formulate a thesis here. [SPEAKER_01]: I would have to think that Jupiter in a lot of the market once this succeed, because this was their first drop on their launch pad. [SPEAKER_01]: Like there has to be like a sense of like, we won't wait to continue to grow and do well. [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been kind of like waiting and looking for an entry.

[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really mapped out my own personal thesis here, but [SPEAKER_01]: I unfortunately didn't get in on it, but I could see it continuing to show some strength once we kind of like, you know, trade sideways for a while and look for that next leg up. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's, it's, it's great to get a win and you guys literally have been printing consistent winners. [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to continue on with some of Meta Moneymaker stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: But again, one last time, if you're interested in getting those first alerts, so you can take action and get educated, check the links below in the description on YouTube and in the podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll throw it in there for you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to me on audio as well, but we got, let's just, this is the sheet that you guys brought to me. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be your producer for the rest of the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just tell me what links you want to pull up and I'll bring them up for us.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we had a two more CO's come up that is happening next week if people want a little bit of alpha, but one got canceled as of this recording Fogo, which is pretty high Fogo is kind of like the first, I don't know what the picture of that naked guy is, but it's like the first SVM Solana virtual machine, and it's going to be high speed is meant for finances and they're raising at a one billion dollar valuation, which is not too crazy when moan at it was at 2.5 billion.

[SPEAKER_05]: But people are pretty hyped on this, but once again, it got canceled. [SPEAKER_05]: Literally the time Brian sent me this link, like literally when we got a live stream, he was like, yeah, the pre-sale got canceled, so, but we, on January 13th, there are tokens in the public. [SPEAKER_05]: And so people see this as a bullish news, meaning that they're not doing a pre-sale. [SPEAKER_05]: They're just going to focus on air-dropping.

[SPEAKER_05]: Air-dropping the community has always been, you know, good for the community. [SPEAKER_05]: And also, [SPEAKER_05]: hopefully for this project because a lot of people are really excited. [SPEAKER_05]: I've interviewed a lot of people for our pot too and one of them was said, yeah, the most underrated chain that is Fogo. [SPEAKER_05]: So definitely it's something to watch out. [SPEAKER_05]: We've actually had them on our pot of Brian.

[SPEAKER_05]: I forgot about two, three months ago, right? [SPEAKER_05]: We had the founder on our pot. [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, so if they are going to do what they say they're going to do, which a lot of people think they can, that's going to be a good one.

[SPEAKER_05]: Another one, [SPEAKER_05]: But that one that one Fogo was you had to be outside of U.S. anyway So another one that people can look into is Oktra I don't we didn't put a link for that one, but if if you guys want to take a look at that one that one's kind of be one of the first launches on a platform called sonar, which is Is is the platform basically that coin based boss.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's a pretty kind of hyped up [SPEAKER_05]: ICO2 is OCTRA and I would say that's kind of like a wet launch.

[SPEAKER_05]: It could probably do three to four X off the bat. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there it is right there, but that and that one is available to U.S. [SPEAKER_05]: But only to accredited investor. [SPEAKER_05]: So that alone is gone to cause a little bit of FOMO. [SPEAKER_05]: So, both the platform they're launching on is pretty well-vetted and aucture itself is a privacy chain. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a privacy narrative and it's doing some pretty crazy stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, once again, they've been running for four years. [SPEAKER_05]: They're not new to the block. [SPEAKER_05]: They've raised money before. [SPEAKER_05]: They raised like 18 million dollars before. [SPEAKER_05]: and this is their actual first public race. [SPEAKER_05]: So that's going to be a good one.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then I'll kick over to Brian because we're just seeing a lot of ICO things come up on our radar table as we're the momentum is now and you know where we can tell and most of most of the last few wins has really been just you got to move on it like one, two, three days after after the lunch get out. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're talking about long-term oats here.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about momentum plays and yeah, and then the ICO and the quick plays are not for everybody But if if you're somebody that is interested in that it's like that's where you got you got to be in the momentum I say it again is check the links below if that's something that you're interested in you like playing in that game And you want to be first to it, you know go get that trial in the description But something with our rainbow wall at there, Brian?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, rainbow wallet. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they complete their ICO just a day ago, if I remember correctly, wasn't one of our calls, but just another point that these this ICO meta is heating up quite a bit rainbows, one of the larger wallets out there. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna.

[SPEAKER_01]: And like Joe said, and you were just talking to as well, these ICOs, they can get that initial boom, and then you get that sell off, and then if these are real working interesting products to you, you always have an opportunity to maybe catch this on the low after those people who got their ICO tokens initially distributed.

[SPEAKER_01]: they may be sell it off and there's a volatility there and with like momentum and opportunity you want to keep your eyes on a lot of these companies doing it and then there's another one that's called a sports dot fun. [SPEAKER_01]: Joe, I'm not sure if have you investigated personally with sports dot fun? [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any experience? [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's an interesting platform for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: I've experienced it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just looked at that high level. [SPEAKER_05]: So no, personally no. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they just announced a recent ICO as well. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to bring up some information here, but they just announced an ICO as well. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you essentially buy like a fractional shares of players that utilize NFTs. [SPEAKER_01]: It was just interesting that now they're coming out with this fun token, they're gonna have an ICO.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm good personally be participating in it, but I know a lot of people in our space have been watching Legion [SPEAKER_05]: I think this one you put on their brains because it's one of the first ones on base, like this is on base, and then base, like every chain has is promotes their own kind of launch pad and base hasn't really doesn't really have a launch pad even though they do kind of with coin base, so this is probably going to be hyped because of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I see no seasons here. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I see no season. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's ICO season according to my my transfer warriors. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, well, it's to phrase it and it was I I see racked. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we can't have we can't have Joe on the podcast and I talked about wrecks. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to our memes and NFT news. [SPEAKER_00]: We got some wrecked and then beeple is in the news, which is always fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I [SPEAKER_00]: But Joe, let's start with with wrecked and then we'll go, uh, let's go wrecked people and then the Trump mobile game. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, I threw in a trump there because I was like, man, we didn't have to have Trump news for a while, but yeah, we could start off a wreck for sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, correct. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, correct.

[SPEAKER_05]: Did a 40. [SPEAKER_05]: We actually re-toed our community to look into wrecked at this particular point, right? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how they timed it, right? [SPEAKER_05]: They must have heard us because right after our call were like, hey, we really like wrecked right here. [SPEAKER_05]: They made two big announcements, which was one they teamed up with Aspen X games, the winter games. [SPEAKER_05]: as a partnership. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's just one thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Another thing they did is kind of confusing. [SPEAKER_05]: They teamed up with another partnership called Aspen Digital, which is a Abu Dhabi kind of like well fun, but they're vetted. [SPEAKER_05]: They have compliance to help early stage tech startups find funding. [SPEAKER_05]: But different aspect, not aspended to the X games, but aspended to it, I don't know how to come with the same name. [SPEAKER_05]: They're like in a completely different continents.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they're just really doing a lot of work on the web to and the web and track fi side or what. [SPEAKER_05]: They're bringing in finances and different aspects.

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly what you need to lever up level up from where they are, which is, you know, mass distribution, mass marketing, [SPEAKER_05]: They're trying to be like the next Red Bulls, potentially Coke, and a lot of people think they would be joking, but with these partnerships and an injection of cash, they can probably crush their goals.

[SPEAKER_05]: So at this current valuation that they're right now, it's pretty like, I wouldn't say standard, but they can definitely reach back up to the all-time highs, and not as a meme coin, as an actual company. [SPEAKER_05]: So they kind of evolved from a meme coin into a full-fledged little beverage company now, that's, [SPEAKER_05]: Throw under first golf tournament, Brian, you're not flexing the golf. [SPEAKER_05]: Did you get the the merch yet? [SPEAKER_05]: And then they'll?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I haven't. [SPEAKER_01]: It's some kind of about that. [SPEAKER_01]: I bought a wreck hat and wrecked golf polo from manners. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll be repented hard. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: I have it. [SPEAKER_01]: I get. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be repented hard. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of wrecked and rape right around before these announcements. [SPEAKER_01]: I bought some wrecked as well, topped it off because it was getting rinsed.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I like this token too much. [SPEAKER_01]: The the brand they're building. [SPEAKER_01]: I have more wrecked drinks than anybody could imagine, cases of it behind me. [SPEAKER_01]: To the point where we have a pretty large family and we have some people that live close to us and we're having everyone come over for a Christmas. [SPEAKER_01]: I literally looked at my wife and I was like, like, with all these cases of wrecked drinks.

[SPEAKER_01]: If that's the great move pay, if that's abstract apple, if that's open sea lawn. [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you want, the MacNut household has it. [SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at her, I was like, hey, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: We should just put a ton of these drinks out for everyone for Christmas like you know like forget like buying like anything else I could I could hydrate the family for two years so I'm gonna be about on the grapefruit drink Not finding it to advice but big fan of the ex games like wrecked and I think the grapefruit flavor might be fire

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you could click on that link. [SPEAKER_05]: They're launching a great flu flavor for the X games. [SPEAKER_05]: And that some people are like, oh, that's going to be the best flavored wrecked out there. [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going to steal a quote from Brian and Brian. [SPEAKER_05]: He always tells me this offline is that wrecked and some meme coins, which I don't think we can even call meme coins, has done more activations and done more than any other altcoin out there.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's true. [SPEAKER_05]: Like you can't even look at this as a meme. [SPEAKER_05]: Like they have done, we wish some of the altcoins can have partnerships like this, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not every all-coing, but you're exactly right, Joe, that wrecked in Pengu, they get hit hard because they're risk on assets. [SPEAKER_01]: We all get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it every time we're on the rundown, but what they're building, the partnerships that they're doing, they have done 10 times more than like 75% of some of these all-coolings that are trading.

[SPEAKER_01]: at much higher market caps not to say I own a lot of those and I like them and I like the thesis but these are real companies that are integrating not only in web 3 but in the web 2 world doing some really cool stuff giant eagle giant eagle for all my Pittsburgh people out there grew up in Pittsburgh it's like that's where we went man

[SPEAKER_01]: was giant eagle and they got a partnership deal with Rex so they're going to be on the store so I was telling you know my mom like hey make sure you get your wreck drink and she like sent me a question mark do I really need to buy this all right now mom don't buy it but it'll be I got more than enough to supply you for life but they're they're doing big things and I'm a big fan of everything that they're doing and the founder OV that's behind it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a great comparison of like red Bulls, like you have red bull is the drink, but at least from their branding perspective and social media perspective, it's like, everybody knows it's these crazy action sports skydivers and, you know, mountain bikers and motorcycle guys and surfers, like, [SPEAKER_00]: I think like 80-90% of the content around Red Bull doesn't even have the energy drink in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it's a vault, Red Bull's a vault into its own brand around the drink. [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, Rect is seems to be kind of taking that approach as well in its own unique way in the web three space, which is really interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and what a good name, too. [SPEAKER_01]: And you, I mean, you don't want to get wrecked. [SPEAKER_01]: You want to wreck it when you're snowboarding, but it just goes hand in hand with kind of the X games and then on the crypto side of things, you get wrecked. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you, you get wiped out. [SPEAKER_01]: You get wrecked. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great name. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're doing some big partnerships.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's enough on my soap box about how great wrecked is. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you guys love it. [SPEAKER_00]: You're very passionate about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I have yet to buy myself a wreck drink, but I do. [SPEAKER_00]: I do love the the cans. [SPEAKER_00]: We saw them in person that one time at the the CWC and you know, definitely a fan of the brand. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys are just die hard wrecked people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but let's see what we got people back in the news. [SPEAKER_00]: Did you see these dogs these were pretty these were pretty wild I mean I doesn't do justice the cell phone video that I'm about to pull up. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw these on like I just Just got the 75 inch plasma hooked up on the wall the other week and these these people dog animals came up And Yeah, 75 inches. [SPEAKER_00]: It was quite intimidating.

[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly these things are a little scary [SPEAKER_01]: I met people once when I worked with draft kings. [SPEAKER_01]: I was at the V friends. [SPEAKER_01]: The V friends show. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: And I met him. [SPEAKER_01]: Like because we were doing a talk and I was in the back room. [SPEAKER_01]: He was there. [SPEAKER_01]: And what an interesting individual. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of like exactly what you would think he's like.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw these trending at Art Basel and [SPEAKER_01]: What the heck are they at the end of the day, but then when you get dig a little bit deeper, they were like the talk of the show. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, TV, you were there, so you saw them. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what was there a buzz about them? [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, when I'm down in Miami, I have my ear to the streets. [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody knows this.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the only thing that was being talked about was, was people. [SPEAKER_00]: It was people, and Pudgy Penguin, to be honest, a little pen you action. [SPEAKER_00]: And this one, just as you said, it's told the show. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously you have a lot of the tech leaders there, some politicians, and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I know so if you if you bought one of these it's like you get the physical thing and then it comes with like an NFT, you know, and then FT with it, you know, the virtual NFT too. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people stole the show. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the guys that go for a reason, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and those NFTs aren't doing too shabby. [SPEAKER_01]: I know you can get them if you bought them.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was given a few away and I think that right around 20 grand now, but they got up to yeah, Tyler's just 35 grand. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're 50 grand at one point, but [SPEAKER_01]: NFTs are I'm a still a big fan of where NFTs and the technology goes, but we don't see a ton of like runners, especially when they're like tens of thousands of dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: But people's one of the best digital artists of all time, if you're going to make them out rush more of digital artists, he would have to be in the discussion to be on there and people people are buying these, they're ape and in. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's always something to watch when he drops. [SPEAKER_00]: I always love when he does a little bit of both. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, here's the virtual. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the physical.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a, it's a cool little tandem, but Joe, you're, you're excited to talk about Trump, Trump again, Trump coined the bill. [SPEAKER_00]: Trump billionaires club here. [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest, the biggest, yeah, the biggest and the best mobile and web game has finally arrived.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm just excited I just get a giggle whenever Trump does like you know NFT meme coin stuff and we he's been quite for a while But then I sent his a bride and I'm like he has a mobile came coming out with a million dollars in Trump being given out and also he's given out NFTs also So I'm not I'm sure if it was a shout out is more of like, you know, what do you guys think this is kind of funny and he's still kind of kicking there is little company as little a web three company

[SPEAKER_00]: I love it. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to do some prediction markets next.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you this on the on this paid for sharing here on the right side is a gentleman looks a little like Doc Juan maybe I jump over the prediction market to go for a Doc Juan pardon for a penny maybe trying to try and get my money back from the the L's I took with Jerome Powell not saying quantitative easing this past week so maybe a little nugget there for for some pardon bedding when it comes to

[SPEAKER_00]: prediction markets but a lot a lot of prediction market news we i credit us we've been covering this stuff literally i just remember i just remember when Bryson i went to consensus a couple years back in austin and we made a point to go listen to to change speak uh... at consensus uh... the creator c o polymark it we just did a sixty minutes expo's a and is now like one the youngest billionaires ever

[SPEAKER_00]: and there were people at his speech it was it was well attended but it wasn't if he did that today it would have been it would have been standing remotely right standing remotely all the way the back and you know this is a couple years ago and there were people there and it was a big form but plenty of seats and then Bryce Bryson I made a point where we were supposed to say guys speak like we we we think this is you know obviously something that we've been following and

[SPEAKER_00]: But they're just continues to be news.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about what we got metamask coming in. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're integrating with Paul and Markets. [SPEAKER_01]: So not surprising, but there's going to, there might already, like, a tab to get into the prediction markets through MetaMask. [SPEAKER_01]: Mirriad, we've talked about quite a bit. [SPEAKER_01]: There are not a prediction market. [SPEAKER_01]: They integrated with the trust wallet.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we're seeing just major partnerships and major integrations. [SPEAKER_01]: What's so interesting, you can bring up the next tab there, Tivo and Joe can touch a lot on this, because I know he knows. [SPEAKER_01]: But Paul and Market flipped visits. [SPEAKER_01]: In comparison, you can see Robinhood Coinbase and Pauli Market flipped draft Kings in Fandle. [SPEAKER_01]: And I love these some draft Kings. [SPEAKER_01]: I worked for them. [SPEAKER_01]: Good people out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: But they require railroad prediction markets, but you got to believe. [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of sweating in their boots a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that from day one. [SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to say the whole marketing behind gambling with your friends is like, you know, let's get a good sweat in. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's place a bet. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's sweat it out. [SPEAKER_00]: These guys have to be sweating right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously there's a huge, you know, just, you know, base of people that they have that have the apps and they have the data and this and that. [SPEAKER_00]: But when you look at what Robinhood's doing, it's on our sheet, the link is an ad, so I'm not going to bring it up. [SPEAKER_00]: But now like Coinbase is going to start doing prediction markets. [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously they're going to announce stock trading coming up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's December 17th, Coinbase has some like big a, it's going to be live. [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to announce all this, you know, I think they have a couple of things up. [SPEAKER_00]: There's sleeves, maybe that they haven't announced, but everybody's basically waiting for stock trading on Coinbase, uh, prediction markets on Coinbase, and you can see there Robinhood Coinbase Polymarket, then draft Kings, then Fandel.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't I don't want to predict pun intended anything for draft kings or Fandle, but as soon as Robinhood rolled out the prediction markets and it was it was a light roll out But I started seeing that you could get better lines Then what I was getting on like a fandle draft kings are like in Florida.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can only use hard rock bet So it's like I just I don't I don't necessarily there's one commercial out there. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like do you want your [SPEAKER_00]: you know, fine, not financial divisor. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want your brokerage? [SPEAKER_00]: This is what it was. [SPEAKER_00]: The quote was, do you want your brokerage to be your bookie? [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, that's a good line.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good line because in theory, I don't want my brokerage to be my bookie. [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're going to shade me a little bit of points and I can get a better deal, I mean, I'm going to use it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I just think that Robinhood Coinbase is really, really primed here, along with Polymarket, Calcia, I've said this multiple times, it fuels kind of like the early days of and Brian, you know, this while working at draft Kings, I was over at Barstil with the penting, there was just.

[SPEAKER_00]: everybody in their mother had a gambling app and then slowly one's one away they got acquired they folded in and now everybody has a prediction mark it's app so i think that's going to eventually go down that path too and you're going to have you know the calcium the polymark you know two three [SPEAKER_00]: whatever winners, but it's interesting with Robinhood trying to grab it, coin-based trying to grab it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, hell, who van guards going to have prediction markets in probably a year, right? [SPEAKER_00]: You know, once they get rid of the ship and put it in Jeffrey, the giraffe, give them another toy. [SPEAKER_00]: You know what, literally, give them another toy. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just, it's, it's never ending, really. [SPEAKER_00]: And it is fun, but it's also informative.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like the new way of polling, because who knows how people even get their polling data from? [SPEAKER_05]: But I just interviewed one of the founders of Pith and shout out to Pith, they said market data is around 50 billion.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they're kind of creating like a blue ocean of new market data, not I wouldn't say polling, but like people putting their money where the mouth is, and that's like another revenue source for polymarket, not just predicting the providing this data with the integrations that they've seen is just going to be [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it really, it gives me big a lot of people to be utilizing that data. [SPEAKER_05]: They kind of create financial models around.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I see this as a huge thing, not just in the short term, but like we said earlier, like we automatically shift it from meme coins all to the prediction markets and rightfully so. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's only like ending one, you guys use baseball terms a lot. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it's a start. [SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah, and then and then friend of the friend of the show sponsor the show as we always like to thank them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gemini got approved to start offering this stuff to and their stock and nice little bounce so just it just seems to be a tool in the toolbox that that everybody's adding. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I actually wrote in one of our forums with our momentum money makers people like this bullcase for Gemini stock and I it's trading I think I'm trying to remember the detail.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think one sixtieth of Coinbase and some people in the in the community made some great points like Coinbase holds custody for a lot of these ETFs and I'm not I'm not saying a [SPEAKER_01]: but they have all the major ability to lean into some of these like retail aspects with these prediction markets and stock trading and tokenization and the crypto side of things. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm didn't like I don't own any Gemini stock.

[SPEAKER_01]: I have their credit card, but I have like a gut feeling here that they could do very well. [SPEAKER_01]: Not not my always my wheelhouse the stock game. [SPEAKER_01]: but uh... i i i i feel like they could run the robin hood playbook a little i was just about to say there's some people forget some people don't [SPEAKER_00]: There was a call on this very show about $9 a share for Robinhood It was a bat basically what you were saying.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like guys you're not even seeing like everybody's like That's degenerates in their gamblers and it's toys. [SPEAKER_00]: It's toys toys toys and I was like guys You're not seeing this like we we had yo and curb out on and I was like the this is not priced in the stock at all at $9 a share and I think today it's at [SPEAKER_00]: Friday so we're not going to get the calculators out, but, you know, something like a, yeah, it was pretty good.

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