[SPEAKER_04]: I got stuff for you. [SPEAKER_04]: Holy moly. [SPEAKER_04]: I need to get some snakes and release them around my house. [SPEAKER_02]: But I love eat people. [SPEAKER_04]: I love eating kids. [SPEAKER_01]: These guys are the scientists of the supernatural. [SPEAKER_01]: Lecturers leaving lessons for inquiring laymen. [SPEAKER_01]: They are applying the scientific method to a world that baffle signs. [SPEAKER_01]: They are the cryptids of the core.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every day, the European mouth. [SPEAKER_02]: I know, right? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm more convinced you're a bit of a violence. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: And it just stood up. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it just kept going. [SPEAKER_04]: And go on. [SPEAKER_04]: And she goes, what the fuck? [SPEAKER_04]: These are idiots. [SPEAKER_04]: I was laughing reading this because I already knew how you would feel. [SPEAKER_02]: Idiot! [SPEAKER_02]: What's the story?
[SPEAKER_02]: Fits your balloon. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this isn't a UFO. [SPEAKER_02]: But who else has big black wings and red eyes? [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Batman. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my man. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, my man. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone, I think we know it's definitely what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: So say it all with me. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a sand bill crane. [SPEAKER_02]: Would you try it? [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't need it? [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're probably toxic. [SPEAKER_02]: There'd be a lot of poop in my face. [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen a six foot alligator go swing into the air, slam into a tree. [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hello, welcome back. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the great and powerful mystery. [SPEAKER_04]: And I am Jay. [SPEAKER_04]: Clone. [SPEAKER_04]: Twenty. [SPEAKER_04]: Six. [SPEAKER_02]: Today, we're going to talk about a really special thing from Mesoamerica before that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a couple of five star reviews and an announcement which is that I am sicker, I've been sick for like a week and a half and I more sick my throat hurts. [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we should give you a you know like they do the sheep where they dip them I would take a cheap I think you need dips. [SPEAKER_02]: I would take a dip.
[SPEAKER_04]: I Probably wouldn't come back out, but are you come up like that that a tumor seal or that goat they dropped out in the mouse hole You might come up like that Just bones That was the tumor seal. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I thought well sheep Busted out so the sheep they sat down they pulled it back out the tumor seal came out of the sheep's guts [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying you're going to come up like the sheep when they dip yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was a goat.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a sheep. [SPEAKER_04]: Meals hole. [SPEAKER_04]: Things. [SPEAKER_04]: Things happened. [SPEAKER_02]: Got two new reviews. [SPEAKER_02]: Five star reviews. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Leave some five star reviews. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll read them on the show. [SPEAKER_04]: Like right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Big Red Panda 27. [SPEAKER_02]: They said so interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first ever episode that I listened to was the one about honored to silence an Australia. [SPEAKER_02]: There is a gore warning in his deathly needed for this episode. [SPEAKER_02]: His graphic details including the episode that didn't make me feel very uneasy, but I love the history and the true crime feel. [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, this is the podcast that I'm binging. [SPEAKER_02]: There's something really special about these guys that reminds me of myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that. [SPEAKER_02]: The response of this is pretty much exactly how I would respond to certain details. [SPEAKER_02]: I highly recommend this podcast to anybody looking for a good listen. [SPEAKER_02]: 10 out of 10. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you, Red Panda. [SPEAKER_02]: Much appreciated. [SPEAKER_02]: And then from Bigfoot Believer. [SPEAKER_02]: Good podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: I like to listen while doing homework. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you big foot believer. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you get there when we're done, but you know, ever But love the lever like beaver with an L [SPEAKER_04]: Believer. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's belief or I guess it's how you spell it. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess however you want to spell it with same thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you normally spell believe B E L I E. This is B L. Oh, B. [SPEAKER_04]: So they took the E L is the letter B. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, either with an L. Do you know, do your homework make sure you do it, but you know, do it on your own terms. [SPEAKER_04]: Don't do it because they told you have to do it by this certain day and time. [SPEAKER_04]: Don't let him and don't let him. [SPEAKER_02]: This is coming from a college dropout. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I seen the light. [SPEAKER_04]: I seen the light colleges or state-funded colleges are there just to take your money and put in debt. [SPEAKER_04]: Go to a trade school, learn a skill. [SPEAKER_04]: That's my opinion. [SPEAKER_04]: Do whatever you want or do that, too. [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about camasots. [SPEAKER_04]: Camasots, is this from Camalot? [SPEAKER_02]: No, for Mexico. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's far from our team. [SPEAKER_02]: Are there's court?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mexico, like Mesoamerican, so you know, what we'd called modern day like Latin America and Northern like South America. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Meso America. [SPEAKER_04]: Meso. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Central America. [SPEAKER_04]: That's all referred to as chemizots. [SPEAKER_02]: What's you guess something earlier? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, do you want to tell everybody what you guessed? [SPEAKER_02]: Was that right? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, just tell everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we were on Cripson Coffee this morning, which you can find us every morning on Facebook, YouTube, Patreon. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gosh. [SPEAKER_04]: You can find us every morning at 9 a.m. on Tuesdays. [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, does he just talk for an hour live with you guys just shooting the crap and, uh, you know, uh, sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: I had to well, just do in there. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: We just talk in. [SPEAKER_04]: We just talk every Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I guess this morning. [SPEAKER_04]: You mentioned the episode. [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess it's a big bat. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he guessed. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: Dang it. [SPEAKER_04]: Why do you leave me up to it? [SPEAKER_04]: You may feel like I was on to something. [SPEAKER_02]: Just because I wanted everybody to hear the same thing that I had to deal with. [SPEAKER_02]: Found in the ancient Mesoameric mythologies and some cults.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the belief that there's zapotex. [SPEAKER_02]: So I have a bunch of pronunciation guides for all you people that won't stop commenting. [SPEAKER_02]: I did some of these pronunciation guides. [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't help on some of them. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So there's zapotech Indians of Okanax, Mexico. [SPEAKER_02]: But those are all words I've had to look up. [SPEAKER_04]: I know exactly where you're talking.
[SPEAKER_02]: The zapotech, I'm more confident with in the open X. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, too many O's and X's. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of them. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll pick it up though. [SPEAKER_02]: Mexico. [SPEAKER_02]: They had a great deity. [SPEAKER_02]: They called Camasots.
[SPEAKER_02]: They literally translates to, [SPEAKER_02]: to I don't know death bat it is a bat the giant bat no way I don't know how you know these the answers come to my head in the native key trick my in language of Guatemala
[SPEAKER_02]: mentioned in the mine book called Poulouval it is said that these monstrous mountain are with these monstrous massive abomination with fusing the features of a bat a man oh okay so we're getting in some of the bat man it will like the mothman sightings or whatever of Chicago yeah and a lot of these giant monster bats of North America [SPEAKER_02]: or they stand up and everything, everything from what? [SPEAKER_02]: That squat. [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say bat squat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe even some other things you'll think of. [SPEAKER_02]: So this massive monster, which dwelled in the caves, well, specifically one cave that called Slair called Azalta Hila, which just roughly translates to the house of the bats. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Often armed with sacrificial daggers. [SPEAKER_04]: that I didn't came to think of this thing's name, but the camea, cameasots, cameasots. [SPEAKER_04]: There aren't with daggers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, specifically sacrificial daggers. [SPEAKER_02]: This is like the death bat or the bat of death. [SPEAKER_02]: So this has not only the giant monster, but some of the grim repers and sacrificial humans, like, cameas sacrifice stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: This is their version of the grim reper. [SPEAKER_02]: Not exactly, that's, I feel like, maybe doing a disservice. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: But this is like, it has some of those attributes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This feels the same niche. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this frightening bat God was supposedly greatly feared by the minds who are also said they would frequent sacrifices to it to appease it. [SPEAKER_02]: The came of that said to kill these offerings or indeed anyone foolish enough to wander into its domain by decapitation with its knife like nose. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, I don't want pieces of skin on its nose that would swipe and just decapitate people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a soft-ish? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: They don't even have any idea for shadowing. [SPEAKER_02]: After which it would devour their blood. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord describes his layers having walls covered with blood from fallen are from the fallen victims. [SPEAKER_02]: I was even described as one of the four animal demons that once destroyed mankind in the my intelligence.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said to have the one who taught men how to use fire. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of funny though. [SPEAKER_04]: How about all around the world. [SPEAKER_04]: There is that origin story of fire with creatures, but just teaching being men being taught. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, going back to what was that he Festus was either one that the great God that stole and had his liver eat now. [SPEAKER_04]: No, that's not him.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would I don't think so. [SPEAKER_02]: There was one of them that had Zeus chained to a boulder because he gave humans fire right and had giant eagle eat his liver out. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I don't every day and made it grow back. [SPEAKER_04]: Correct. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that was he festist, but I know if he had festist was not the guy that fest was the inventor. [SPEAKER_04]: A forger of fire. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't give them fire.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he did not give them fire. [SPEAKER_02]: No, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: He was like the inventor the guy that made everything. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sure moving line one of the most well known legends associate with camisots is the trials of the mine hero Hello poop Hello poo and I'm not even I don't even know how I try to look it up how to pronounce the other guy But it's like x But look but link quick [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I actually know it's like Xbox or it's belong or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was on this game called Smite. [SPEAKER_02]: So they had like him as a character. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go X belong because you said that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I always said it. [SPEAKER_02]: They both veered into the deep underworld and found themselves in his cave. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: The story goes with the bloodthirsty camisots. [SPEAKER_02]: Decided to decapitate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a him a poo and keep his head in order to play ball games with it. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Leaving his brother to Coward within his or within his own blowgun until Dawn came and forced the demon to retreat. [SPEAKER_02]: Kim's odds had was featured in my and art and stories for centuries. [SPEAKER_02]: If you watch Goatler, the road to El Dorado. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that game they play. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, based off of this legend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ask if that was the game they were playing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it used to be a head. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, nice. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's wonderful. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to play that game. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so tons of my and art and stories for centuries, there's long in debate whether this tale of a murderous manbat at any basis in reality or of his purely supernatural or mythical.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, in South America, they were that city of the monkey god and they found it. [SPEAKER_04]: They found it. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that South America?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I feel like you've been wrong a lot this episode I'm I'll attach my name of this one it was South America was city the monkey guy because it was hidden forever but they re-discovered it and like it had the monkey statue like deity there's not even any monkeys in South America well [SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm not great. [SPEAKER_02]: There's more keys to that. [SPEAKER_04]: I thought so. [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to go about to Google it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm almost 99% sure this one was there because I remember, I don't know if that was the one that was discovered by that one kid who used the stars like constellations and then realized it was matching up to,
[SPEAKER_04]: cities we have found you know in South America like ancient cities and then he used those stars to discover undiscovered cities or lost cities just by using those patterns and they were there says wild remember some of the trooper cover legends even had the giant bat like oh yeah the witnesses seen the giant bat monster drinking blood [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm interesting hammer head bad jersey devil.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all that they're fruity either, but the same thing same thing They people are just big fruits, you know just drink the juices out of it. [SPEAKER_04]: That's all it is we're all just big like mangoes The longer you talk the worst it gets why I don't know no [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm sick, I'm taking it out on everybody. [SPEAKER_02]: One idea I'm going to criticize is that the man back got his perhaps based on a real life creature.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So perhaps some sort of giant oversized prehistoric species of bat that it's maybe still exists to times. [SPEAKER_02]: There's other evidence that, you know, a various iron witnesses report over the years are describing a giant bat like creature in the loop regions where camasot was said, do we worshiped and reigned. [SPEAKER_02]: In 1947, a witness called Jay Harrison, reportedly cited several massive bats in the region.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of walking around flying around doing all kinds of stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And in the 1950s, a Brazilian couple encountered what they described as a humanoid bat monster in Northern Brazil. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So like a bat that's walking up right out on swings. [SPEAKER_04]: That sounds a fit to bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: And more recent years, I was frightening encounters in southern Texas, and the borders of Mexico were farmers were claiming to have seen aggressive bat-like creatures with three toes a bald head and gorilla-like faces. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that would be frightening. [SPEAKER_02]: And even more so recently, there was reports from 2004 from an area of valus de Cilla in a municipality of Guadalupe, the eastern suburb of Montreal, Mexico.
[SPEAKER_02]: On June, sorry, January 16th of that year, police officer, uh, Leonardo, sorry, Gallius was on patrol. [SPEAKER_02]: When he allegedly saw something very large and very dark descend from the trees and hover over the ground. [SPEAKER_02]: As the wary police officer approach, what he could see, the wing of hanging away was covered in black fur. [SPEAKER_02]: He reportedly lunged at the car and grabbed it and was shaking it. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: That's watch style.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say, you should be picking up on some various other cryptids we've covered. [SPEAKER_02]: And after which it started banging on the windshield in the front and policeman radioed in for help. [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine you're a cop. [SPEAKER_02]: You get out first, you're like, is that a big bad? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a really, and then it's like, is it running out, yeah? [SPEAKER_02]: Running. [SPEAKER_02]: Jump at, yeah, you jump in the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like shaking the car, punching the windshield, and you're like, hey, I got a 1047. [SPEAKER_02]: Like having a radio and other cops, we like, there is a monster trying to get into my car with me. [SPEAKER_04]: There was an episode of swamp thing with this thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Did this. [SPEAKER_04]: It was a Batman creature. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's, yeah, a man bat and it attacked. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think he was made in the lab, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Man bat and he attacked him. [SPEAKER_04]: Just like this. [SPEAKER_02]: There's only so many ways a giant man bat could attack you. [SPEAKER_04]: running at you or flying at you with his feet hands or mouth. [SPEAKER_02]: That's about it. [SPEAKER_02]: So ready for help. [SPEAKER_02]: In a panic, he would allegedly, he would allegedly gun the card reverse, crashing in a tree and knocking himself unconscious. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: radio help that was a reverse all right and he's out and that didn't that was unfortunate when help arrived the creature was gone and they'd woke the other officer up oh is work it worked yeah well yeah because he just like that's like what you know probably got knocked off the car what if it was just like a guy in like a costume he's like tell with a cop it is we're just running the cop that for help because uh his other bat friend
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so since it's as such since I'm so sick, this is definitely going to be a sort of shorter episode. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because I'm almost out of stories already. [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm sorry, I'm tick, I'm tired and dying. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's not died today. [SPEAKER_02]: Leave a comment if you love me. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: What if they don't? [SPEAKER_02]: They don't say anything. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get enough hate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we could still use the comment. [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't like the podcast, don't listen. [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's true plenty of that at that. [SPEAKER_04]: That always confused me It from times, but I don't I'm not going on your car. [SPEAKER_02]: Bring it on the window. [SPEAKER_02]: Making you listen. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, do they act like you are?
[SPEAKER_02]: In 2009, there was a report of a rural area in Chalua, Mexico. [SPEAKER_02]: The town of El Quanta, a young man came across something crouched down and hunched over in the middle of the remote dirt road. [SPEAKER_02]: When the frightened man drove closer, the things stood up and revealed a very humanoid ship they had spent our extensive wings and red glowing eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: The terrifying witness Toro Wayne is vehicle and then claimed that the creature chased him for a full 15 minutes. [SPEAKER_02]: So he's flying in a car going like 70, 80 miles an hour and the creature's keeping up. [SPEAKER_04]: That's in a long time. [SPEAKER_04]: That's in like, that sounds like mothman. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, point pleasant. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, either, either sounds like mothman.
[SPEAKER_04]: I see in Hellcrain or perhaps like a science club's experimental balloon that somehow was self-guided. [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say it was self-propelling. [SPEAKER_02]: It was tied to the car so it was just dragging behind. [SPEAKER_02]: I did it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what did you see it going back and forth of the red eyes? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, get some weird gust of wind and soups it around it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching videos last night when people had to have fake snakes to go first. [SPEAKER_04]: Gosh, it's so funny, but it's so mean. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that one guy was talking about like literally screw and over like small town people. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then they attach a sink to it. [SPEAKER_02]: And he like, that was a, and he ran into the golf cart and I was good. [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't hear them's prior conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was talking about how his neighbors tree fell on something and he was suing him and everything like this. [SPEAKER_02]: So, and then he attached his snake to him. [SPEAKER_04]: So he was, yeah, it's good. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_04]: But one of those guys hit so hard. [SPEAKER_04]: That was that guy. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, great. [SPEAKER_04]: Crushed the front of the golf cart. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, flipped over it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Run away from his snake.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, fake one. [SPEAKER_04]: That's funny. [SPEAKER_02]: a draw off tour. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, uh, deciding what a heavily circulation and local news and be blamed for a series of mysterious cattle medallations in the area. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: Chippe Cobra. [SPEAKER_02]: Chippe Cobra aliens. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, caves. [SPEAKER_02]: These things are often. [SPEAKER_02]: Carol Sims. [SPEAKER_02]: Carol Sims.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you think? [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a little episode. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Not really, but. [UNKNOWN]: So [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, then why you try a trick in me? [SPEAKER_02]: Because the rest of it's science. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the, that's what everyone comes here for. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, um, classic stories, classic examples. [SPEAKER_04]: Very bad. [SPEAKER_04]: Squatchy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very, uh, well, a couple other things, alien, but where do we draw the line between batsquatch, alien and African demon? [SPEAKER_04]: Lions are blurred. [SPEAKER_04]: Some fall under many umbrellas are the same venn diagrams, a lot of crossover. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't know, I don't know where this one falls, but these legends have been going on from this area for a long, long time. [SPEAKER_04]: What are all far back? [SPEAKER_04]: They do go in this area too.
[SPEAKER_04]: If it transcends the, uh, to the Mayans. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, but I wonder if it transcends even them. [SPEAKER_02]: Let me sure. [SPEAKER_02]: We wouldn't know that though. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess I know we wouldn't know, but I wonder if it is was it's the Inkas tech Maya, right? [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I never think it's always first. [SPEAKER_02]: I know 90% sure Inkas first. [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe. [SPEAKER_04]: I really don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: You said something to remind me of the old mex, too. [SPEAKER_04]: You said something about the bald heads. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, what was it you were saying? [SPEAKER_04]: And then the bald heads is like the gorilla like faces. [SPEAKER_04]: because the my are not my it's the old Mac heads like the stone heads they're very weird very strange.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you don't know about them at home I'm old Mac heads I guess there's these big stone heads they found buried and they dug them all up and I mean hundreds of them thousands of them probably I really don't know but they're gigantic and they're all unique. [SPEAKER_04]: They're all like have their own unique characteristics. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's not like they were just throwing them old and mass producing these things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very strange, but I don't know, it kind of sounded like, that's what it reminded me of when you said that, the head and the bald head and the face. [SPEAKER_04]: Cause they kind of have like the pug, like the grillat, you know, smash nose, like, but they're just so massive. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm now I'm picturing like these massive heads if you would attach a body to it's gotta be huge.
[SPEAKER_04]: There were some links on that and you got to actual demon monster that would be like a 14 15 foot tall bat monster that's thick and strong. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that would be scary. [SPEAKER_02]: So I found on Reddit if you go to cryptos is our slash cryptosuology from four years ago, they were users been deleted. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't want to count anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: We're decked credit a strange flying creature sightings in Mexico. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've written this before on a button, so I'm reading the guy's whole thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I'd written this before, but in another form, it was compelled of creepy things. [SPEAKER_02]: My mom lived during her life. [SPEAKER_02]: She'd seen to be a magnet for. [SPEAKER_02]: But constantly, and I believe this has been translated. [SPEAKER_02]: OK, there's a couple of funny, like way words are and stuff like that, because it's like, oh, yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, Google Translate again. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, my mom in her life, you know, but considering that this was an animal I will post here to see if anybody knows of anything about it. [SPEAKER_02]: This is a discontinued with the possibility that it was a military trunk and we were talking about a small 500 or 500 people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Town in the middle of nowhere in the countryside part of a 10,000 Okay, and habitation municipality in northern Gillesco, Mexico The town that is called the Quinta, which means the burned one in this case If you want to Google it on maps, but I do not advise you go and visit as there's a serious cartel problem Around there as far as my parents told me with the last time I was there. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's not good [SPEAKER_02]: So don't go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, don't go.
[SPEAKER_04]: The PSA as far as this podcast is concerned. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't go to this area. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's how the story goes. [SPEAKER_02]: It happened before the year 2000 because and so this is I believe in his, he's writing it from his mom's point of view. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This happened the year before 2000 because I remember the New Year celebration 2000 my stepfather shot his gun in the sky as it means of celebration.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which M-I-I-M-O, in my opinion as extremely dumb, but you know Hillbilly's or Mexican Hillbilly's. [SPEAKER_04]: Just like us here, we do, yeah, to the exact same thing. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's a human thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We live in a small house that was under construction at the time. [SPEAKER_02]: And at the top of the hill, the street went down to a stream that was used to be a river, but now is almost dry.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only church in town was 1,000 meters down the street hill. [SPEAKER_02]: And there was a little park. [SPEAKER_02]: There was a wall or as the wall of the yard was down, it was being rebuilt. [SPEAKER_02]: My mother was afraid of going to the bathroom alone. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was that type of country town because the bathroom was outside of the house, deep in the yard, at least in this house.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she woke up my stepdad, and in the early morning to go out with her. [SPEAKER_02]: He was looking at the stars outside the bathroom. [SPEAKER_02]: One of my mom came out. [SPEAKER_02]: She saw my step that was looking at something. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's when she saw it. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a big bird light creature. [SPEAKER_02]: Skin smooth as a seal. [SPEAKER_02]: Great color. [SPEAKER_02]: The wings of some three to four meters wide.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the wings were not flapping. [SPEAKER_02]: They were almost carved like a bird's wings. [SPEAKER_02]: They were just floating there thanks to the wind pushing it. [SPEAKER_02]: It had no discernible head. [SPEAKER_02]: The front was oval as far as we could see. [SPEAKER_02]: The body looked like any birds that flew. [SPEAKER_02]: Its tail was very triangular. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a green glow though coming from its tail. [SPEAKER_02]: It was sort of floss phosphorescent.
[SPEAKER_02]: As it covered the whole thing and emitted around it, they did not mention anything about legs of the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, there's a little bit more to the story, but before I go on, what do you think? [SPEAKER_02]: They can't see it's head. [SPEAKER_02]: They think it's really bird-shaped, but skin covered. [SPEAKER_02]: And the orange triangular tail, which you've ever seen, bats, they connect their membranes to their legs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have a tail, a lot of times they'll connect it to the tail and back to the back leg. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like a triangle. [SPEAKER_04]: I see, like the little flap of skin between legs. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, flesh covered. [SPEAKER_04]: Why they, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So glowing green at the tail. [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, phosphorescent. [SPEAKER_02]: They put the whole thing in the airy glow. [SPEAKER_02]: So this reminds me of some other cryptids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what they're open. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as a glow. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a glowing spot on its chest And then the other winged monster came out of caves and had a glow or the van meter visitor the van meter visitor That was his horn. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the other end. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Like cave creature with a glow.
[SPEAKER_04]: It could be like some kind of lure or follow me kind of thing [SPEAKER_04]: or communication or communication, okay, what animals use by the human essence for communication. [SPEAKER_02]: God, a big list coming up. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good idea. [SPEAKER_04]: I was key when you up. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so yeah, they see this. [SPEAKER_02]: Just strange thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but also the O ring bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, remember that guy? [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess I forget all the glowing creatures. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Bunch of the flying ones glow. [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: Bunch of the bat like flying ones glow. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, you're not talking about bat squat, right? [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't have a glow. [SPEAKER_04]: He had like a. [SPEAKER_02]: No, but he blew up.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was on fire when he was. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he was blew it. [SPEAKER_02]: I really do believe that's why he was so blue. [SPEAKER_04]: Why? [SPEAKER_02]: It's covered in sweat. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I thought we had thought it may have been that fungist or something. [SPEAKER_02]: It could be any of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought it was because I think it's because he was covered in so much suck because it turned everything like that gray blue.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think it was because he just robbed a bank and he was trying to get away. [SPEAKER_02]: The die pack. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So other curious details that are my stepdad said he had thought I better get my camera and take some pictures at my mom was terrified It wanted to grab the broom and start swinging at it. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay [SPEAKER_02]: It's four meters wide. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, 12 feet.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take a little broom and like yeah, that's my grandma did that was a Mexican mom. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one time we had a raccoon You know the little like drains out in your gutters like we're it.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a little bend at the top or bends down and then goes straight down When that little bend will mirror a little little crack who or not little a big fat rat who and climbed up there was stuck up there because it was too scared to get down because we had dogs and whatever [SPEAKER_04]: But he was just stuck. [SPEAKER_04]: So my no one was doing anything in my grandma just grabs a broom and she goes right outside right at it. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a weapon.
[SPEAKER_04]: What she just shoves it out of there and it shoves it all the way to the ground and then our dog chase across the street and it was gone. [SPEAKER_04]: But no fear. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, they both say that, uh, sorry, so they wanted to take a room. [SPEAKER_02]: They both say that they wanted to move, but they could not move at all. [SPEAKER_02]: They were completely frozen.
[SPEAKER_02]: They could think of, they wanted, we're thinking of doing these things, but their bodies would not react to doing that. [SPEAKER_02]: So they're just saying that he's like, they're frozen. [SPEAKER_02]: There's his dad. [SPEAKER_02]: Except that I was like, I'm going to go get my camera on his mom's like, I'm going to go get the broom and start whipping that thing. [SPEAKER_04]: But neither removed. [SPEAKER_02]: Neither removed.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm. [SPEAKER_02]: You can never say where it's everything where it's just like seeing a train wreck or a car wreck and you just yeah people say you just can't look away something still odd or otherworldly that it's like yeah where you could say it's more supernatural or paranormal where it's
[SPEAKER_04]: paralyzing them or you can just they got zoned out watching it to like you know you say like you know the alien stuff you know the alien side where it's like missing time well that or a more or less like like you know you're I'm gonna go up to I'm gonna go out to the kitchen get like a snack and you stand up out of the chair and you're still watching your show and five minutes later you're still standing there do that all right aren't you going to get oh yeah yeah it's not like that you know innocence squirrel ADHD
[SPEAKER_02]: A y'all said the creature took around 50 minutes to fly about 150 meters, 15 or 15 minutes to fly 150 meters. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was going really so yeah, like it was not that it was flying that slow. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like it wasn't leaving the area. [SPEAKER_02]: Is how I wrote. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, keep mine translated. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, true. [SPEAKER_02]: So you lose some of the nuances.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it could mean that like it could have been like hover like a like an iglese looking over Hey, parents are talking like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's how they were talking when it was like it was like it was using the wind and Like very still. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I've seen that before too. [SPEAKER_02]: Birds do it on cliffs back all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, batches up lifts and caves and stuff like that [SPEAKER_04]: I have a real cool video on my phone of uh, I actually had to pull over and take it because it was so cool. [SPEAKER_04]: There was a uh, red tail hawk flying right covering. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, on an overpass. [SPEAKER_04]: It was at US 30. [SPEAKER_04]: And I was taking the exit to get onto US 30 and I was going down the ramp and I just stopped because right over the overpass there was where that up draft is.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a uh, red tail hawk. [SPEAKER_04]: Seriously like floating perfectly. [SPEAKER_04]: It's had never moved a spot. [SPEAKER_04]: It was, it looked fake. [SPEAKER_04]: So I recorded it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: It, uh, so they go, oh, so then they got, until it finally got lost behind the trees, but they could not move into the last side of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they also said they feel like it was looking for something. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, food.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, I mean, whatever, but the glow, like it kept glowing, it's tail, on and off, and like going a firefly. [SPEAKER_02]: at it is being such a recluded place that with old school religions, people, they told my parents, yes, everyone in the town knew what was going on all of the time. [SPEAKER_02]: That is that this was a witch. [SPEAKER_02]: Now specifically though, a new hola. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and it's N-A-H-U-A-L-A.
[SPEAKER_02]: like new and uh, what I, or was like NA, like nah, but now Hwala. [SPEAKER_02]: No Hwala. [SPEAKER_02]: No Hwala. [SPEAKER_02]: Hwala. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is roughly Mexican skin changer or a skin, or a skin locker. [SPEAKER_04]: Who skin changer? [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe a shape shifter. [SPEAKER_04]: That's, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess skin markers do that, but they're whole stick. [SPEAKER_04]: But they're not skin. [SPEAKER_04]: This is little skin.
[SPEAKER_04]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, not like it was me like now that it was made of weird flesh like it just had taunt skin like a bat. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just picture it like like you know, like pale skin did no, it said gray seal like skin like me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: There's always been a division between some sort of ext- or then some people said it may have been an experimental drone, which makes no sense as they mentioned before, they say, or some sort of, if I cave dwelling bird, or a large bat, there are tons of mines that opened up into a caverns in the area. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, band-meter visitor style. [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's what I have written next, is band-meter visitor. [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you don't know that story, I'll give you the the the rough version of it real in a second, but yeah, so that's that one. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to going back. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the bioluminescence thing, whatever that was while phosphorescence, phosphorescence, even yeah, but. [SPEAKER_04]: They said they couldn't have been in a drone, why they say that was nonsense.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just was saying because how rural the area is, like, it's a town of 500 people. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, most of them don't have running water in the houses or like, they have bathrooms. [SPEAKER_02]: They have all the house and stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: All right. [SPEAKER_04]: So a perfect place to run an experimental drone to free people out. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's just, that's his opinion. [SPEAKER_04]: That's just his opinion.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I can't, I'm not gonna rule that one out ever. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't sound like a drone at all the main. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, but we don't know what secret technology is even out there anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: This is in 2000. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it could have been already there. [SPEAKER_04]: Like that one winged plane you saw. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember that? [SPEAKER_02]: But that's real. [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's real, but it wasn't 20 years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yes, but it wasn't like publicly just it was but it like it's not in the public mode domain like where everybody knows I googled it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, then you found out about it, but even then that was I'm not in the planes Right, well, nobody is except plane lovers and there's like you're a problem today. [SPEAKER_04]: I I am I'm going to me. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I think this is your reflection [SPEAKER_02]: all right. [SPEAKER_02]: So giant bats.
[SPEAKER_02]: So chemists specifically is a blood lover. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, vampire. [SPEAKER_02]: And all these areas that have these giant bat sightings also have calamudilation stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And they talk about these surgical puncture wounds and all the bodies being drained of blood. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: So I wonder if there was giant blood sucking bat monsters.
[SPEAKER_02]: are attacking cattle, mutilating them, drinking all the blood and then leaving. [SPEAKER_02]: So all these stories of cows getting picked up and dropped, and they're like, well, how could it, you know, there's no helicopter, we didn't hear any drone or something. [SPEAKER_02]: Giant bat. [SPEAKER_02]: Now that could be that one on Skinwalker Ranch, we did that as an episode where they seen a giant monster sitting in the trees and it just disappeared.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did that was just a bat sitting in a tree? [SPEAKER_02]: Like a giant, [SPEAKER_04]: just be sitting up in the branches. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the whole thing that they thought was the head of it was just the body of the creature. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gotcha. [SPEAKER_04]: The whole yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: That could very well be that this is a remind me of a story we used to have a Mr. Klingler was our substitute teacher when we were in elementary school and he was in. [SPEAKER_04]: He's getting up there now, but he was older when we were in elementary school, so we're talking. [SPEAKER_04]: many years ago. [SPEAKER_04]: He's still alive. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's write down the road for me. [SPEAKER_04]: But he told the story when he was a kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where he would be. [SPEAKER_04]: He was afraid. [SPEAKER_04]: He had this fear that something would reach out, you know, like any kid, reach out under the bed when your lights are off in your room, you know, in grab your legs. [SPEAKER_04]: So he had this routine at night where he would uh.
[SPEAKER_04]: he had a pole string on his light, so he would run from his door to his room or to his bed, and he would jump in the air and pull the pole string all in one motion, so he was in the air, pull the pole string, and he would land on his bed, and that's how he would go to bed each night.
[SPEAKER_04]: and he said one night, uh, he laid in the bed and he said it felt like someone blowing right in his face, blowing air in his face and he couldn't and his mind started racing and the only thing that came in his mind was there's a witch in his room.
[SPEAKER_04]: and it's she's hovering over him and blowing air in his face and he said so he just pulled the blankets over his head and covered it and when he pulled him back off because his pitch black couldn't see nothing and he'd feel the air start blowing his face again. [SPEAKER_04]: So the next night he decided and it happened like two nights in row and he was freaked out. [SPEAKER_04]: So he said the third night he was going to see he's going to trick the witch.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's going to jump, pull the string in the bed if he's going to hang onto it. [SPEAKER_04]: So when he's laying in bed, he's already hanging on the string and he can pull the light back on. [SPEAKER_04]: So we did. [SPEAKER_04]: And he's laying there. [SPEAKER_04]: And he said, sure enough, he felt the wind blowing on his face. [SPEAKER_04]: And he said he pulled the string and there was a bat. [SPEAKER_04]: It was a bat hovering over him, flappin' swings.
[SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't hear it, but he could feel it. [SPEAKER_04]: But even then, [SPEAKER_04]: Even then, uh, I'm wondering, was it something more paranormal, maybe, perhaps? [SPEAKER_04]: Because why would a bat be floating over ya? [SPEAKER_04]: And why would it do it multiple times in a row, each night? [SPEAKER_02]: turn off the light, so it's like time to come out. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, maybe, maybe that's just, that's just right in mind me of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe bats, I don't know, maybe there's some supernatural stuff that takes a form of bats, just like the empire, maybe the Dracula, maybe the Dracula, legends aren't based too far off reality. [SPEAKER_02]: So keep Dracula on. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're going to talk about next. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, all right. [SPEAKER_02]: Is specifically Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: So, the real Dracula from Transylvania.
[SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: The real Dracula. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Two and a half million years ago to modern day. [SPEAKER_04]: Vlad the impeller. [SPEAKER_02]: The real Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's count Dracula. [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the real Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Dead and loving it. [SPEAKER_02]: Dracula? [SPEAKER_02]: No way before that. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Dracula.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably closer to that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's how I actually pronounce it. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take an ad break and we'll be back. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're down here at Mel's Hole, and Justin. [SPEAKER_04]: Justin? [SPEAKER_04]: Where'd you go? [SPEAKER_02]: Help! [SPEAKER_02]: I'm falling down the hole. [SPEAKER_03]: You've felt how Mel's Hole? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I keep falling. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I'm going to be falling for a really, really long time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And nothing like getting the kid and teaching him how to fish. [SPEAKER_05]: Dracula. [SPEAKER_05]: Dracula, Dracula. [SPEAKER_02]: So do I told you in all these areas where the legends of a giant blood sucking bat monster actually existed a Dracula. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a giant blood sucking bat monster. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: What do I told you that? [SPEAKER_02]: What do you believe me? [SPEAKER_04]: Why would say that's pretty convenient?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you his real name. [SPEAKER_02]: He's up the Dracula family. [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Is it Gregory? [SPEAKER_04]: Desmond. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's close. [SPEAKER_02]: Desmond Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Desmond Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: He was here. [SPEAKER_04]: What a nice sounding guy. [SPEAKER_04]: He's not. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh. [SPEAKER_04]: Nice sounding. [SPEAKER_02]: No, Desmades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dracula. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: is an extinct giant, long-nosed, blood sucking bat from Central, South, and Southern, North America. [SPEAKER_02]: When did this exist? [SPEAKER_02]: I really, like, till now. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they went extinct relatively recently. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Shoot. [SPEAKER_04]: What, how? [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So where's this discovery? [SPEAKER_04]: Where's this origin story?
[SPEAKER_02]: So the Dracula bat or the Desmond Dracula is an extinct species of vampire bat which had inhabited Central and South America. [SPEAKER_02]: And possibly some of the, like I said, southern United States, they're still arguing their fossils are pretty rare as our most bats are just due to the fragile nature of bat fossils and bat bones. [SPEAKER_02]: There were quite a bit larger than any large modern day vampire bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they were the largest vampire bat we've ever discovered. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that wing span or you're talking to tell so yes, it's wing span okay and they're about 12 inches from the their nose their tail, but they had a pretty sizeable tail with that. [SPEAKER_04]: So this is like our largest blood sucking bat. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Can't talk carnivorous, I guess. [SPEAKER_02]: No, there's other carnivorous bats that get quite large.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this is how we're talking specifically about vampire bats. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This is extremely mega sized blood sucker. [SPEAKER_02]: Blood sucking bat. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This is as big as did we ever known. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll talk about vampire bath behaviors because they're quite a bit different than most other bats. [SPEAKER_04]: Now if you give a bad vampire bath or a blood second bat, a blood orange, could it live?
[SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe I don't know, probably not. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not an expert. [SPEAKER_02]: I know some bad experts actually give me men on a color. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so they have fossils and a mineralized subvossals. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what they call it, unmineralized stuff, that's me being kind of funny, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not quite bones, whether or not fossils yet, but it's in the in-between.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like an in-between kind of thing, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's, they're still organic, they're not mineralized, but it's not like a normal bone. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like picking up a white bleach bone from a deer or a... Gotcha. [SPEAKER_02]: Or it's some of the cave stuff that you get where it's like, oh, this is natural giant ground soft like knuckle, you know, a natural bone still there, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, but they found them in Argentina, Mexico, Ecuador, Brazil, Venezuela, Belize, and Bolivia, so all in that region, they were not as common as the little vampire bats, but they were, they ate some big stuff, these guys were awesome, so small recent records of these are from the late ply of the scene, but some are from the Holocene, hmm, that's what we're in. [SPEAKER_04]: Like the current time period.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Desmond's K9 tooth discovered in Borneo, Eris, Province in Argentina came from sedimentary data and only back to 300 BP, which is about 16, 50, 80. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Just the 1600s. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: What was that BP they said? [SPEAKER_02]: It's a different thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Just a different time on scale like to count things. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, for us is though it's 1650 80.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's not that long ago. [SPEAKER_02]: No, not at all the fossil was tentatively read or they called it something else at first and then it was D Dracula. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So the first Desmond Desmodus Dracula boss was located in Cadelle, De Gonecho in Venezuela in 1965. [SPEAKER_02]: So a pretty new discovery They didn't have they only had some pieces of a skull in some post cranial material was used as a type specimen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: An author's assigns a specific adequate Dracula noting that the largest known Capriven vampire bats basically so you named after count Dracula. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you have to at that point And then the genus is desmodious. [SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully, they don't find one bigger because then they got to rewrite everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes forever So yeah, these guys had about about about a 20 inch wing spin [SPEAKER_02]: They had about three inch long humorous, which is pretty big for a bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the skull was long and narrow and they had an upturned face and snout and we think they had a large-pointed nose so then get the cams out legends yeah i'm not long protuberance on the nose that they said was like a sword okay oh that's right yeah so these are like a little verse there's i mean they're big don't get me wrong for vampire yes i mean if you see this thing flying at you oh it would look massive i would be happy and you know they're lived in rookies
[SPEAKER_02]: and we still don't we're kind of guessing a lot of this dimensions based on the skull okay that one big skull we have speculation or extrapolating so somebody I'll just put him at being quite a bit larger not like we're not trying to like seven foot across or anything like that but you know maybe a two foot wing span got you which is still that was fine at you did you drag flood uh yeah no thank you or you wake up in the middle of the night and it's just attached to your leg on the end no thank you yes yeah we'll talk about that
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but yet range is still under a big question they've been only found in six caves total pretty much one in each country that they've said that he lived in okay remains a really hard to come by and we do not know their max size because of this so we think that they were like co-orbit or co-harding uh... rookies so other species about we're living in the same cave that he's guys yes
[SPEAKER_02]: So bats are really, uh, we'd just talk about the, uh, undurren white bat, uh, few weeks ago. [SPEAKER_02]: Few weeks ago I'm freaking fun. [SPEAKER_02]: So bats are pretty good. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's some species of bats that are nurse maids, and they share babies, so they'll leave babies with other moms where they go and eat, vice versa. [SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of bats are colony nesters. [SPEAKER_02]: So they're maybe something with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they may have gotten pretty big. [SPEAKER_02]: Vampire bats are really weird. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's in them walk, [SPEAKER_02]: So they have a numbing agent in their saliva. [SPEAKER_02]: They have two big cutting teeth. [SPEAKER_02]: So what they do is they'll hop around on the ground and they run around on the ground on all fours.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very kind of weird to look at, because you're like, they fold their wings up and they run around really, and they're really fast and they hop like frogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll lick an area first and they're numbing it and then they'll start cutting it open and drinking all the blood and lapping the blood up and then they have an anti-quagulent so it doesn't it doesn't stop bleeding yeah and it just keeps leaking so you keep drinking [SPEAKER_02]: They're extinguishing the species regarded as geologically extinct as only bones of it have been documented and has not been reported in any surveys. [SPEAKER_04]: So they might still be out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's thoughts of that in extremely rural areas that they may still be there. [SPEAKER_02]: However, the extinction is assumed to be geologically recent. [SPEAKER_02]: As some of the, you know, discoveries are not fossilized. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're bones. [SPEAKER_02]: The date and reasons for the extinction is currently unknown. [SPEAKER_02]: What hypothesis is the extinction state that is highly specialized on mega funnel mammals as prey?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So that when the mega funnel mammals start dying out, these guys start with you. [SPEAKER_04]: What's that makes sense? [SPEAKER_02]: But anecdotal reports say extremely large bats are attacking cattle and horses in Brazil. [SPEAKER_04]: They could be establishing back. [SPEAKER_02]: They were just, there was just so few of them and now they're bouncing back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So in Brazil, they're having problems right now, like this year in 2025, growing problems and saying that it's giant vampire bats breaking news, are killing cows and horses. [SPEAKER_02]: Not like they're picking them up and dragging them away, but there's like three or four of them feeding on one cow. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: The cows don't feel it and they just drop dead from the blood loss. [SPEAKER_04]: Blood loss, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dang. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_04]: I think it could be a possibility. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not the first one to come up with this, just so everybody knows. [SPEAKER_02]: This has been people who've said this for a long time that this could be this. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and very rightfully so. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's definitely a case here because we don't know when they went extinct. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the sea of the camps for that perfect example.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, we extinct millions of years ago. [SPEAKER_02]: These are 1650. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that living caves. [SPEAKER_04]: That's like yesterday and in geological timescaly at 100%. [SPEAKER_04]: Or even just, that's a blink of an eye. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing. [SPEAKER_02]: Four hundred years is nothing. [SPEAKER_04]: So, and we don't have cameras in microphones and, you know, recording every single cave in every remote area of the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, there's billions and millions and trillions and gazillions places. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about animals to hide. [SPEAKER_02]: How many bats there are, right? [SPEAKER_02]: We did that on the hundred and white bats. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the 1300 species of bats. [SPEAKER_02]: A lot. [SPEAKER_02]: And species, I guess. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and some of them are quite rare. [SPEAKER_02]: So, let's talk about the ghostly glow. [SPEAKER_02]: So, I had it for here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bats glow, like owls. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of, kind of. [SPEAKER_02]: Scientists have discovered, and this is a, this year. [SPEAKER_02]: This is this year in October, scientists just discovered that bats can glow in the dark. [SPEAKER_02]: Ouch! [SPEAKER_02]: Hot off the press. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was like, some bats in the U.S. [SPEAKER_02]: Specifically, glow neon green.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow. [SPEAKER_02]: What was the color that was reported on the giant bat and max the code that the family seen purple that was an angry angry green what was the color of the van meter visitors light yellowy green yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what was yeah it's green [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the new study has found that northern American bats glow a ghostly green when exposed to ultraviolet light.
[SPEAKER_02]: Scientists still don't have any idea why the trait deserved across multiple species pretty much generally every North American species of bad. [SPEAKER_02]: They have not started work with South and South and South American species, but they found the same body areas of all the specimens regardless of age and sex. [SPEAKER_02]: They glow green. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, do you think that's something that they produced or do you think it's some kind of a bacteria that they accumulate?
[SPEAKER_02]: So the discovery is made by researching the University of Georgia challenges existing in some of the assumptions that bat biology and evolutionary traits that photo phosphoryluminescence glow doesn't seem to serve any clear functional today, but it is consistent presence suggested it may have once played a role on time ago to some of these scientists. [SPEAKER_02]: My thing is they glow themselves. [SPEAKER_02]: They produce it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's for communication inside of rookies. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they glow to each other like hours glow to each other to come on. [SPEAKER_02]: You're like hunting and tandem to communicate with each other. [SPEAKER_02]: These guys are in the thousands, but they were memorized their pups, they memorized their sisters, they are highly social animals.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're in a pitch black environment, you're using ultraviolet light, you will glow to each other. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's back to us. [SPEAKER_02]: Our eyes don't pick it up, right? [SPEAKER_02]: A bat, you know, and then some larger species may, you know, are producing enough, or our limited eyes can actually see it. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: What if, what if another thought, what if it's like a defense thing when they're all colonized together in the caves?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and just blinding, essentially, anything using ultraviolet light. [SPEAKER_04]: Either blinding or just making them look like a big blob. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, something. [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. [SPEAKER_04]: because my only thought about your idea is like, well, I know bats already have limited vision. [SPEAKER_04]: If that would be. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't see, okay, that's kind of a misnomer as into the extremist of it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's aren't blind.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know they're not. [SPEAKER_02]: But they do not have great vision, because they use echolocation, but yeah, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just didn't know as far as communication for on an individual basis or things like that, [SPEAKER_04]: uh... you know they probably would use their more sensitive tools i guess their their hearing or their sound or things that's why i thought maybe it's it could be a defense thing for as a colony thing maybe that's why they all do it it's like a cult colonial [SPEAKER_04]: defense response like like those uh that video of those caterpillars I showed you where they all are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh gosh, they're so scary. [SPEAKER_04]: Or not scary. [SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about the silk weavers. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the silky, the white hair, you know, and tandem. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and all in Tana like heartbeat, they were all moving together I get once and then when you got close they like stood up on in like they look big and fuzzier and scarier. [SPEAKER_04]: But they're yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So bats are a monk already among the most elusive and hard mammals to study on the planet up there with deep sea whales. [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks since so. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, spending most of their lives in darkness and on the move in deep caves, you know, yet they're biology teams are revealing strangeness surprisesness around every corner. [SPEAKER_02]: The latest research published in ecology and evolution.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a new curveball, once again a biological glow previously undocumented at this scale, with no clear exceptions. [SPEAKER_02]: The study looked at 60 museum specimens, and found the same glowing pattern repeated across six species. [SPEAKER_02]: from big brown bats to Brazilian free tail bats. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, which are here in North America. [SPEAKER_02]: They are North America species. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're called Brazilian free tail bats.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, okay, on my list of bats, like favorite bats, there's your definitely like tops 13. [SPEAKER_02]: This funny adds to a growing body of research exploring natural phosphorescence in mammals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, when all bats try in the same research tested specimens from species such as I'm not going to give you the scientific names, but each of them displayed a green photo luminescence glow under UV light, specifically in their wings, their hind legs, and the membrane between their legs, right at their tail, uh oh, or you're going to have a concentration.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_02]: When the team is caught off guard with a uniformity, which they were not expecting, it's not complex. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not patterning like Cheetahs or leopard spots or tiger stripes. [SPEAKER_02]: They're almost the same pattern. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, so there's nothing unique. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like a fingerprint. [SPEAKER_02]: No matter the species sex age, the lower appeared exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: The level of consistency, according to the science alert, magazine rolls out explanations like mate selection, species recognition, which are typically involved some kind of variation. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's a quote. [SPEAKER_02]: There is no variation at all, so the wildlife biologist Steven Casterberry from the University of Georgia. [SPEAKER_02]: That tells us it's probably not being used to distinguish between species or for mating or for individuals.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a hundred percent, they say it's a hundred percent identical from a baby bat to a giant bat. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, from six different species that they already started studying. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so my defense theory may still, yeah, that's probably more likely. [SPEAKER_02]: More there, more mammals join the glowing club. [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't the first time scientists have found phosphorescence in mammals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Previous studies have found flying squirrels, platypus, and even opossums glow under black light. [SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty neat. [SPEAKER_02]: But the bats present a unique case, due to their conformity, a feature not seen at any other animal. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I wonder if they can transfer that to other animals?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, so is that like embedded in their fur or is it something that would be what do you mean that phosphorus and glow I guess like if they land on something no it's it's produced by them [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, it can't be sheded by them or I mean, no, it wouldn't, no, I wouldn't do the same thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like Glowin' Gel, so my thought was like, what if, uh, you know how Daryl sims, the alien, like, unmarking things?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they land on the end, they bite, yeah, and then you leave, they have this weird, unique pattern on your neck. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, what's that? [SPEAKER_04]: It's glow's in our black light. [SPEAKER_04]: Must be aliens. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a freaking bat foot. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. [SPEAKER_02]: Daryl, I got you figured out. [SPEAKER_02]: So the one thing is, is green wavelength falls within bats range of excellent vision. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which could mean that the bats are able to see each other glowing very well. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there you go. [SPEAKER_02]: Get in the natural environment with no ambient UV light, especially in dark roofs to night skies, making it unclear whether the glow is ever active in the wild. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't know what it's for. [SPEAKER_02]: They have no idea what it's for. [SPEAKER_02]: All we know is bats glow in the dark. [SPEAKER_04]: We don't know what's lower.
[SPEAKER_04]: We just know they glow and they can see it and they see it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's funny. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's even a huge. [SPEAKER_02]: We need like a special light to see it bats see it. [SPEAKER_02]: Like bats just see each other glowing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So bringing this all in giant flying animals that suck blood in around cattle mutilations that glow relates to giant bats.
[SPEAKER_02]: that have fast for our bio-fast for us in spots, specifically oriented on their chest wings and tails. [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe the legends aren't so crazy after all. [SPEAKER_02]: So there's your science in paranormal, your science in magical thinking. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything from rollpins to, like we said, the man meter visitor, which had a special spot on it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: To, I mean, even these camasots.
[SPEAKER_02]: having, you know, Kim's not specifically didn't have anything glowing as far as I could find, but that yeah, but it was a blood drinker. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was mutilating cattle. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: It was big. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're in Brazil. [SPEAKER_02]: They're, they're saying they're giant bats. [SPEAKER_02]: They're killing cows and horses. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, modern day. [SPEAKER_02]: Just this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Right now, right now, as we speak, as this episode's in Brazil, they're published. [SPEAKER_02]: There are bats drinking horses to death. [SPEAKER_04]: So, we're not saying this is what it is, but people are saying. [SPEAKER_02]: But, so I think the camosots, I guess I'm getting to that. [SPEAKER_02]: I do think there may be a cryptic species.
[SPEAKER_02]: of giant vampire bat likely built but pretty big so like maybe so like I mean eagles I mean they're just they're big but they're not heavy right so I could be something like that to where these things are maybe a four or five foot wingspan they're very rare they're living in caves they're not they're not high numbers yeah the guys maybe responsible for cattle mutilations are mothman some of our mothman
[SPEAKER_02]: All that and they end up in weird places and everyone's around the end up in a city.
[SPEAKER_02]: mothman and that like Chicago mothman that scary you know bat squatch you know all these creatures that fall in line with this from across the world not just the u.s. in Mexico and Central America and South America, but everything from the rope and in the oaring bat tate you know the owl man of cornwall like oh yeah these these humanoid bat creatures that are suspiciously have catamulation to the area could be a giant species of bat and heck maybe they're
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I do think we haven't talked about that a long time that there are caves that lead to giant. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think the earth itself is completely hollow. [SPEAKER_02]: I do believe in the core and all that personally. [SPEAKER_02]: I do think there are there are, I mean, gigantic pockets inside that may have complete biosphere that we just don't understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we know the MAMF cave system stretches all over from New York to Wisconsin always South is what the Ozarks even would be print, but they're still, they think Georgia. [SPEAKER_04]: And they're still major swaps of it. [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't mapped or even discovered yet in my opinion. [SPEAKER_02]: And there's cave systems that are laying on top of it that they don't think connect. [SPEAKER_04]: Which is, that's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's it's not unlikely then one that we were like really deep and they're like, yeah, probably like a mile below us is the Not my old, but you know, whatever they were saying. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yards or whatever is probably connected to the man with cave system and these don't connect. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's wild. [SPEAKER_02]: So, I do think there are paths that get you into these giant, I mean, giant caverns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I think that's where maybe things survive, mass extinction events, deep in the earth, even the earth, and then every once in a while they leak back out, protected by Earth's bosom. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's how you have these really big jumps in the fossil record. [SPEAKER_04]: We're just craziness. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're gone forever. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And then they reappear, you know, whatever, million years later.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we talked about that, whether it was on here or a Patreon, but that time scale of fossil with natural disasters occurring every all the time around the world can just shake up the fossil. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can flip it upside down. [SPEAKER_02]: It completely. [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying, you know, you don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know that they can hide from that. [SPEAKER_02]: I think there are plenty of hiding spots from mass extinction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: There has to be that's only reason there's still life. [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because it mass extinction. [SPEAKER_04]: Everything's dead. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we actually went for an over an hour. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not realize that. [SPEAKER_02]: So good episode. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, hopefully you guys enjoyed it. [SPEAKER_02]: I have been the great and pretty much dying mystery.
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