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Ep 990 - IUBB 23-24 Schedule Release

Sep 19, 202332 min
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Galen and Scott are back, as IU Basketball released their full schedule today. They look at why they are both optomistic about how the B1G portion of the schedule looks for IU.

Galen gives his early record prediction, while Scott doesn't commit to a number, but rather a finishing position in the conference.

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You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home Field Apparel. All right. Folks, welcome back to Crimson Cast. Scott here with you. I have Galen with me. We're kind of doing it like this is one of the few times. It's like, you know, you have a friend, they always drive the car and now I'm going to be in the driver's seat. So it's tough for Galen. He's like, you know, going to reach over a couple times trying to grab the steering wheel.

But I'm running the board here. We had an I U schedule release. It happened quickly. We got on the the Crimson Cast Bat phone and we are getting this done. So, Galen, man, how you doing? I'm terrified. But otherwise, fine, you know, nothing. Nothing more terrifying than Scott on the steering wheel. But no, I'm kidding. It's good to see you happy to that we were able to jump on here. I shouldn't roll my eyes. I'm not sure I hit record yet. So it's like I can, I can. There you go.

This is what terrifies, you know. I'm sure it's all all fine but no good. You know, I you. It's funny because like I was talking about this with some folks and one of my friends was like can we please not with basketball season. Like football season is still going on. And that's true. But look, that's the duality of doing I U podcasting. We got to take care of of all of the children, not just one of the children at a time. So here to talk about it. Looking forward to.

It and the thing you'll notice a lot of the teams on the schedule are also available to be purchased through Home Field Apparel our sponsor here on Crimson Cast and the home Network. A lot of school. I mean, they have a lot of those schools I've. Not checked all of them, but they are there. And if you want to purchase, we have a new code. It's home 23. We'll get you 25 or 15% off your first purchase. Home field Apparel. I know I'm Galen's Laughing at me one one little slip up.

We're still on the road. Just hit the rumble strips. We're back. We're back on. I've done reads before you I also need to correct you. It's the back home network, not just the home network. But anyway, let's move on. Hey, man, get in the back seat. You're right. You lost shotgun. You're in the back seat. I wouldn't be living up to things if I didn't do that right? Yeah. So I mean we're on a, we're on a first name base. It's just me and the home network. I don't need all of that.

The back home network, Yes, with all of our friends at the call. You might call them assembly call. I call them the call. Yes, the work DD work. Anyway, schedule release, it's always a fun day. I just literally got done putting it into my Google Calendar like importing all of it. It's always fun. We're going to. Talk about it. I also it's we'll have these discussions then it'll be funny because I will be talking.

We'll be talking in February when we'll be like right now we'll be looking at stuff like what was a nice little stretch there where, you know, you know, five or six games and then we'll get to February. And like all of that has changed, where it's like this stretch sucks now because these teams are bad, but you know the schedule is out. I think we knew a lot of the nonconference. We knew a lot of the opponents. We were playing in Big 10 just.

Kind of not what when when we're playing them, how we're playing them. But at first glance, what are your thoughts on the schedule as you kind of had just digested it for 15 minutes? Well, look, overall, I think it's a favorable schedule for Indiana. You know, when I go through and try to tabulate what I think Indiana's going to do in any given year, I was taking initial run through and I always feel like I, you know, I'm like, wow,

we're not going to be very good. And then I have to ramp the projection back up. This time I had to do the opposite. Like I I went through and just off the first glance I'm like this doesn't look that bad. I mean, you know, there's there's not that many like catastrophically difficult games. You know, you don't have to go to Michigan State.

You know you've got a couple of things like that where it's you don't have to go to Iowa which thank God you know and and things seem really you know pretty evenly metered out. There's a couple of nice breaks there's an 8 day break in January. There's another eight day break in February and you know that's that's good. I think that helps A-Team get their legs back. It's tough because you know it's it's kind of we knew to some degree what we were getting without you basketball last

year. They kind of exceeded our expectations. But you knew it's like well we got Frace Jackson Davis. We know how he's going to play. You've got Miller Cop, you've got Xavier Johnson. And then, I mean, granted, it didn't entirely play out that way, but this year feels very different in that we really don't know how these pieces are going to fit together. We don't know how the team's going to play. A lot of people are assuming the team's going to be.

Working in progress, they're losing all of that scoring with Trace Jackson Davis leaving. But I'll say this, as a Tottenham Hotspur fan, you know, everybody was predicting doom and gloom offensively for for the Spurs after Harry Kane left for Bayern Munich. And they're off to their best start in literally 50 years. So it doesn't have to mean anything because every team is going to be a little bit

different. So when I look at this schedule, I think overall the way that the games are metered out, you know, the fact that you're you don't have to end with Purdue, you don't have to, you don't have a road game to close the season, you've got Minnesota twice. There's a lot of positives there that I took out of it, and it's just kind of nice to see how all the pieces fit together. What were your thoughts? Yes, Similarly, I think it's a pretty good schedule.

I mean, I I think, you know, as you look at the Big 10, there's probably 2 clear teams and then and then a big drop off and you have, you know, Purdue in Michigan State and you're only playing. You're playing Purdue twice, but we've played them well and then you know you're only playing Michigan State once and it is at the last, it's the last game of the season. So it's kind of like you basically don't play them until obviously the very end.

I was kind of taken aback just looking at it when I got it in my calendar, the the breaks, there's two kind of long 8 game breaks and then when you look at it, so after we play Wisconsin January 19th, some of the teams are tough, obviously Purdue, but you have a week off and you're at Illinois, home for Iowa, home for Penn State and then. At Ohio State and at Purdue, I like those home games, but also the road games.

It's also not a lot of travel. I mean for all the talk we've had about travel and all the stuff about travel coming up, like that's basically from you know January 19th and then and then sorry, after that Purdue game, you are off for a week and then you're home for Northwestern on February 18th,

you basically have a month. Where you're either at home or you're traveling no more than maybe 2 1/2 hours away from you know where you're at. So that's that's really nice for a young team that might be at a point is trying to figure things out where it's kind of like you basically have for lack of better term like a month homestand understanding. There's three Rd. games, but it's not like Rutgers or Minnesota or something like that.

Now there's a couple of things like that that I think are worth noting in the schedule. I mean the toughest games to me are those quick turnarounds where you're at home and then you got to go on the road, right? You know, so you know those are not great.

I mean you got a three day turnaround and you're at Rutgers which you know Indiana's played so well at Rutgers historically you've got a three day, you got Purdue on a Tuesday and then you got a three day turnaround and you got to go to Madison and play in the coal center against Wisconsin. That's not great. You got another? Another place We've played great over the years, right?

You got another one. You know February 6th, which is a a Tuesday, you're you're at Ohio State and that's following up a game at home versus Penn State three days earlier. Now all that said, the back-to-back Rd. games that Indiana has, they get at least a decent amount of rest. I mean they they go to Purdue after that Ohio State game, but that's a Saturday game. So they get, you know, when you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday basically to rest up.

They go to Illinois after that Wisconsin game, but they get 8 days off before that. You know, the only time in the whole schedule where they've got a road back-to-back that is, you know, less than three full days of rest is right at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it's really long travel. They got to fly to Maryland and play there on the third on a Sunday and then they got to fly to Minnesota and play there on a Wednesday.

That's not going to be a lot of people in class on Monday and Tuesday. I think with all of that that that that's fine. Who who cares really. But no, look overall, I like the way that it fits together. I agree with you. I think that there's there's a lot of spots in the schedule where Indiana can kind of if they need to hit a reset button and get back into the swing of

things. And really, I mean, you know, it's it's, you know, you're looking like, you know, you got Minnesota and Purdue back-to-back. That's a nice game to lead into that Purdue game at home. Minnesota is not liable to be that great again this year. You got another one of those where you have Iowa followed by Penn State at home. Iowa's probably not going to be as good. There's no Murray's on the team as far as I know this year. And Penn State is probably going

to be real bad. I mean, you know, Penn State, no Shrewsbury, you know, no picket. I mean they're really starting from scratch and then you got Northwestern and Nebraska back-to-back at home in the middle of February. I think those sorts of windows are important down the stretch, particularly for a young team, a team that doesn't, you know, hasn't really played together yet.

You know, then you're going to have to, you're going to integrate where you're going to integrate in Bakpo, you've got to integrate Gabe Cups, you've got to integrate all these other folks. And so you know, hopefully by that point they're hitting their stride.

But that'll be nice to to be able to say, look, you know, we got to play our best in these games, but it's nice to have these in tandem with each other because it's tough when you're doing like, oh, we're going to play Northwestern. That becomes a trap game because you're playing, you know, Michigan State at home immediately after or you're going to Purdue immediately after. And I, you know, that's really where in I use kind of gotten in trouble in terms of looking ahead.

There's at least some games on the schedule where that's not liable to happen. The the other stretch we knew that all the non conference pieces that the stretch that I look at that is tough which is going you know this is the new reality for I U basketball fans which is a good thing that we're playing a tougher non conference.

But that stretch from November 19th to December 16th, you know you're going to have UConn and then either a mix of Louisville and Texas and I think we're keeping this Louisville one on the schedule. That's a joke. As my phone rings in the spam, phone rings in the background. Thank you spam. So you have UConn and then Louisville, Texas in the Empire Classic, your home for your home in Indianapolis, for Harvard. And then now we do know you have Maryland at home and then you're at Michigan.

It's that's not one of those Penn State games. Those are kind of mid, you know right in that midlevel tier and then? You have Auburn and then and Atlanta and then you're home to Kansas. That is a a very rough stretch for a a really young team.

Now I think they can make some, hey, I think we saw it just like we did last year against you know our our three or four major premium games, you know the Arizona, Kansas games last year North Carolina. You can lose a good number of those and your season can still be just fine. Same with those two two big 10 getting losing all. You know 1234 is all seven of those would not be ideal but.

You know, I do think that's going to be a really interesting stretch because you only have you know basically three games, you know Florida, Gulf Coast, Army, Wright State leading into that stretch where you're going to be able to make some real hay or see where this team is. But I just, I look at that stretches that's going to be really interesting for this team just kind of that where we don't really know and I think I've

heard this somewhere else. It's like you seen Indiana pick, you know, fourth in the Big 10 and 9th in Big 10 and it's like. They all could be right and they all could be wrong. Like there's a real high ceiling, a real low. I just don't think we know. And I think they're they're going to get thrown in the fire really early, which I think will help later in the year. It may not look great during that stretch. Yeah, it's going to be Maryland's are really fascinating opponent to start

with. I mean, that's a team that you lose to by 11 on the road midway through the Big 10 season last year. And then you turn around and beat that same team by 10 on a neutral floor in the NCAA tournament or excuse me, the Big 10 tournament. I mean, that's, that's good. I mean, obviously, you know, you don't want to go in with your only game having been a loss to them. And look, I think Maryland could very well be a contender. They bring a lot of pieces back,

more than I thought they would. I mean, Jamir Young's coming back. Julian Reese is coming back, Doctor Scott is coming back. I mean they they've got a really nice nucleus returning, but it's a nucleus that Indiana's beaten on a neutral floor and they'll get them at home to start. And and so I, you know, I like that as an entry point and then it's hard to say what to make of Michigan, you know, but I'm but

I'm glad. I don't think Indiana, if, unless I'm mistaken, I don't know that Indiana since they went to this format where they're playing Big 10 games at the beginning of the year or at the beginning of December, I don't think they've ever had a stretch where they won both of those games. In fact, I'm going back and looking right now. They did once. I'm sorry. In 2019, they beat Northwestern barely at home, and they beat Penn State barely on the road.

And you know, every other time they've gone one and one. Great. A great Big 10 season for us that year. Yeah. Yeah, no, really. So. So look. But, but look, I think that combo, Maryland at home and at Michigan, that's a winnable combo of games. And you know, with all the upheaval at Michigan, it's hard to say exactly what that team's going to look like. I think that team could be fine down the road that they tend to get all right as time goes by.

I'd rather play that team at the beginning of the year on the road than play them later on. And so I like where that's at. But yeah, overall, I mean you look at the schedule, I think it's actually metered out pretty well. You know you you've got. I'm really surprised.

Those breaks, like the the two, eight day breaks was kind of just surprising to see both of those in there well and and you've got you, you really got 3/8 day breaks because you've also got the Christmas break from the 21st to the 29th where they're not playing. So you know they get they get a lot of time and for a team that's struggled with injury issues you know some of the major some of the minor, I think it's good you'll you'll get players rest back up again.

They'll be a little more you know game ready and informed by the time those things were rolled around and I think that that's going to be very, very useful. I also like the fact that you know they're testing themselves in the non conference. It's it's not a world beater schedule but you know they're going to get to play UConn and you know I'll I'll be surprised if they beat UConn.

I'll just be honest. I mean, that UConn team is real good and maybe better this year than they were last year and they won the national title last year. I'd love it if they did win that game because they get to play Texas in that next game and I'd love to see that. But you know, even if you just get one of those two, you're still playing them on a neutral floor. Auburn's a great addition. That's going to be a big

challenge. Kansas is going to be obviously a great game and and Kennesaw State is it, you know that we all kind of snickered at that one a little bit last year. That was a good Kennesaw State team. That Kennesaw State team, you know they they were a 14 seed in the tournament. I think they finished like top 125 in Ken Palm. So well and that's and that's the thing you and I've always talked about is I mean we needed to up our high level scheduling no question and we're starting

to do that. But it's like the the Kennesaw state type games like you're you're going to win those. But it's different when you're playing a team that's, you know, 200 or you know, 175th in Ken Palm, that's going to make the tournament versus. Kind of what we were doing for a while is that slot would be a team that's you know 330 now everybody has those you know sub 250 teams but it's like we seem to load it up on too many of those.

I'm with you like Florida Gulf Coast is is in that realm of like a a better you know better low level team. Well, I mean really I think you could make an argument the only there's not there's no awful team on the schedule this year. They're the the lowest rated team that from Ken Palm at the end of last year that's on the schedule. This year is North Alabama and they were 256. They were not bottom, I mean they were barely bottom 3rd.

But you know they you're not talking about a team in the three hundreds that was a team that was 18 and 15 last year. You know they were ten and eight in the Atlantic. Sun Army was right around there. They had a winning record last year. Morehead State was 22 and 12

last year they were two, 137th. Florida Gulf Coast was in the top 200 in in Ken Palm. I mean so I I think Mike Woodson and the crew deserve a lot of credit because they really did upgrade the bottom of the schedule which we've been pleading for them to do. And I think that maybe this is just the first year that the contracts ran out for what had

already been signed. And now you're able to really kind of integrate, you know, some of the teams in there that that are going to help your overall thing. Even you know, Harvard who was only 500 last year. But that was a team that was in the top 160 of Ken Palm and and a team, I mean, you know, those Ivy League teams, they play

really good defense. Each of these teams, if you go through and look at what they bring to the table brings some kind of an interesting aspect which is a very Bob Knight like approach where you know, sometimes I remember back in the in the 80s and 90s would be like why are they playing, you know, this random team And then you find out, well that's actually the, the team that's best in the country at shooting 3 pointers in five percentage or something like that.

So. So yeah, I mean, look, peace, piercing, all these things together. I like the schedule. The Big 10 schedule almost seemed like it was missing some things. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, there's no trip, like we said, no trip to Carver, Hawkeye, there's no trip to the Breslin Center. And man, I mean, we got to go to the coal center. So it's not perfect, but not having to go to those two places, I'm really pleased

about. And I think it's a schedule that if Indiana can grow up early and learn how to play comfortably with each other under whatever new system they're going to be playing under, I think they've actually got a really high ceiling in terms of what they can accomplish against this

schedule. Yeah, I agree. I'm I'm kind of looking right now like what is you know probably the craziest home game is normally you know I would assume it's going to be that Purdue game on January 16th is a Tuesday night there's there's four. So we do this with our we do. I've split tickets OK with with. I split tickets with my sister, with Matt Blaska and Jay Horry. You know, all friends of the pod. And So what we've gotten in the habit. Of we're doing it now, live on the pod.

You just going to be like, well, we're doing we're going to draft the tickets right now, no. And they're not on. So, Blaska, you there. All right. Blaska gets army. All right. Next, I tend to split all of our home games into tears, OK? And so I think there are clearly 4 tier one home games this season. They are Maryland on the 1st of December. They are Kansas on the 16th of of December. They are Purdue on the 16th of of January. And then Michigan State to close

out the Big 10 season. And then I would say there's there's 4 clear Tier 2 games, which are Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska, who's a tricky team these days to play against in Wisconsin. So you know, I would say probably I think that all four of those tier one games, Maryland, Kansas, Purdue and Michigan State are going to be really fascinating to watch for different reasons.

I think that Michigan State game could be an awesome experience, but I think all of them have a lot going for them in terms of what what you'll experience in the crowd. Yeah, and Michigan State is really the only weekend game that's going to kind of bring it, because every other home game is going through. It's like. You know, Northwestern and Penn State just don't don't have the cachet yet. And the Michigan State ones

going to be interesting. Although we could be at a spot where like Michigan State has their their spot locked up. We have our spot locked up and maybe it doesn't matter as much, which is kind of a bummer, but. One last thing I'll say 2 Friday night big 10 games on the schedule. They've got Maryland on the 1st of December, it's a Friday night game. And then they got Minnesota on the 12th of January, also a Friday game.

We've we've obviously seen some Friday games with I U, but I just that always feels weird when Indiana's playing the Friday. Game this just in we have Tom Allen coming on the pod to talk about his thoughts on Friday night college basketball games. Tom, what do you think about that? Hey Friday Night by 5. FLEOLE 0. All right. Sorry I had to do that. Wow. OK. Wow. All right. Anyway, why don't we get to predictions? Scott, what? What are you looking at as far as this?

If you're looking at this schedule, how do you feel like I U fares? I I don't have a number yet obviously I'm I'm still plugging it in and looking at I've you've got you're throwing me off. You already have Ken Palm numbers from teams. You have tears like, hey, hey, the schedule came out at noon, man, What have you been doing? It's 620. Do some research. No. Anyway, I'll go ahead and go then. If you don't have that, I don't want to put you on the spot, so watch.

You over high level, but you give me give me yours first. My when I made my first run through on this schedule, I really was like I this they could go 22 and 9 and 13 and seven now I don't think they're going to and here's why I I feel like as I mentioned I mean there's there's youth on this team they are going to have to figure out how to play a completely different style from what we've seen them play.

So I think it's going to be a little bit of a getting to know you process and I think that's going to manifest at times in ways that are not going to be pleasant. I think especially in January I see a real opportunity for I U to like win a game, lose a game, win a game, lose a game and it kind of feel like they're stuck in neutral.

But I think overall taking all that into account, I'm going to say looking at this 20 and 11 overall and 11:00 and 9:00 in conference and you know I think you could go probably one game less or two games more either way. But so wouldn't shock me if they won 12 or 13 games in the conference. Like I think that's completely on the table, just the way that this lays out and where the relative strengths of I U are this year. Yeah I I was working this afternoon man.

I got stuff going on. I, I so I don't have a number prediction but I I, I do think this is a very favorable big 10 schedule for us based on all the things that we said and kind of who we're playing. I, I I kind of stand by, I think you know. Not giving a number prediction, but I I think 4th or 5th place in the Big 10 is kind of what you should be looking and striving for. Only I have to put a huge asterisk on it.

Like it's just it's I'm really fascinated to see what this team looks like and how this team grows. And I can also see this team finishing 6th or 7th in the Big 10 but being way better in March than they were to start the year and they just they stumbled a lot. But they they're able to pull it together and I think. Honestly, that might be the real, like the real path of this team, because getting to 4th or 5th in the Big 10, you have to

be pretty solid throughout. I I can see them having a lot of stumbles early, but being a much different team going into the Big 10 tournament than they were even in like January or early February. Just because I I think it's going to take some time for this team to gel and this team is really going to be young outside of Xavier Johnson. It's still a lot of young kind of unproven pieces at this

level. Yeah, I mean the the big issue I think we run into is just you know how quickly will key pieces grow into the roles that they're going to have to grow into. And I, you know, I I do think that the schedule is set up nicely. It's not that you have to wait until the end of December for those pieces to come together. You get some early big tests and I think there's going to be some losses built into that. Like, I think Indiana's going to

lose to UConn. I think they're going to lose to Auburn. I think they're going to beat Kansas because I think it's going to be a wild atmosphere. And I think I use going to be fired up, especially what happened last year. And then I think once they get into Big 10 season, things shift even more as we start to really figure out who's ready to play and what sorts of contributions they can really give. And you know, that's something

that it's different. It felt like last year and the year before, a lot of it was about, you know, how how do the complimentary pieces fit around what Trace Jackson Davis is going to give you? And a lot of that last year was how will Jalen Hood Shafino grow into a role that he wasn't immediately ready to take on and when wasn't expected to take on and things had to be shifted. This year it's a bit different. You know. This year it's about, you know what? What is the focal point of

Indiana's offense? Can Trey Galloway become consistent enough on both sides of the ball that you can play him, you know, more than the 62% of minutes that he got last season? You know, does Indiana get enough outside shooting? Can they play these young, athletic big guys in, you know, essentially kind of, you know, stretch roles at the college level?

And will that work defensively given that, you know, it's weirdly enough like that's where Indiana has to do their work this year, is get better defensively while also maintaining their offensive efficiency. So look, there's just a lot of that Will Malik Renew really step in and sees the starting position. There's there's so many things we don't know.

I think it'll work out. But like you said, I think it's going to take a while and I think this is a team that is liable to be much better in March than they are in January because you know the talent. I think it's clearly there. It's just can they grow into their bodies, so to speak, within the confines of what they're going to do on the floor? I want to hit one more basketball talk if you topic if you don't mind. So it was I had the the guy who does my pest control here at the

house. He's always big basketball guy. We always talk basketball. But he he said something that made me think of something that you said he was talking about like he was woodsing a turn around. He's like, well, hopefully he can like hopefully, you know get some recruits in and kind of like did the knock on wood and

I'm. I was kind of like, well you know I went back to thinking about the the think you guys you and Coach Tossani talked about it in the post game of Indiana State. It's like I don't want to start becoming, you know just pure defender of Woodson here because you we've had concerns. I think there's legitimate still concerns but it's like let's give this guy some credit like

he's doing a really good job. And you mentioned Hood Shafino like I go into this year, I look at you know Jalen Hood Shafino you have a player that's both player and coach. They both get credit. But he went in and kind of had to understand how to play college basketball. And then immediately it's like, Oh yeah, and everything you thought about like who you're going to be playing with with Xavier kind of being your your point guard tandem, like that's

not going to happen. So now you got to change it on the fly and they were able to figure that out. So I just, I I think that there's a lot of kind of not credit being given to Woodson on the recruiting. And then with the same team, I think we're going to see a lot of that going into the season of like, well, can they put it together, can they do? And it's like.

He's shown a lot of history of putting a lot of these things together and last season, just looking at it a little bit with a little bit of distance, it's like, you know, losing Xavier Johnson was huge. You got a freshman back there and they all figured it out. And it's like, again, it's on, it's on Huchafino, it's also on Woodson. But it's like, I'm not sure that that that the staff's getting enough credit for that. They're not.

And I'll just, you know, I think the mainstream traditional beat coverage of I U has been pretty fair in terms of evaluating Woodson. I think a lot of the radio and and podcast and and other sorts of coverage has been wildly unfair and unrealistic to Woodson on a variety of levels and and his staff in terms of what they've done thus far. And I I don't understand the mentality behind it. I think I understand to some degree where it's coming from but that doesn't make it good or right.

You know I I think that ultimately the you know and and look I think our friends that inside the hall have done a good job of of covering pretty evenly on things. But I just Woodson has gotten some levels of criticism that just baffle me given the state of the roster when he took it over and what he's done over a two year span and what he's dealt with in terms of injuries. Now you're getting audiences with recruits that Indiana only was dreaming about having.

Think about them and now it's like, well, you better land some of them. It's like, well, yes, of course, but like let's let's celebrate some of the steps along the way. I I think a lot of this goes back to you know just how out of whack a lot of the way that people think about I U Basketball has gotten over the course of time where we it's funny like you know, Woodson is is significantly overachieved like a lot of the stuff that Cream did.

Yet people got into this habit of like lionizing what Cream did and minimizing what Woodson and his staff have done. It doesn't make any sense and it's. Funny because it comes down to like a like I, I look at last year, think something you and I talked about a lot and we're going to wrap up here in a couple minutes. You know, last year we were protected see. Like we were protected see in the tournament, which to me is like that's you're giving yourself an opportunity.

Like should we have played better against Miami Sherlock. But Miami was also red hot like you did. You caught the wrong team at the wrong No, no, Scott. Scott, you didn't hear the whole team quit with 10 minutes to go in the game. You didn't hear that you that didn't register with you. They just quit. They should all be taken off scholarship. That's that's that's the truth. Sorry. Go. On Oh no, it's because of NIL dollars. Like they were just mad about

there too much travel. No, it's but it's like if they win that game. They're in the Sweet 16 and like I hear people talk about like, wow, you know, Indiana's got to get the Sweet Sixteens again. It's like, well last year like I'm fully aware they didn't make a Sweet 16, but it's like last year everything was in line for a like that to me was a Sweet 16 type season. I'm not trying to make, you know excuses here, but like you, you were protected seed you did

there. Like you didn't win that game. Like that happens. Like teams can have really good years and not make the final four. Teams can have bad years and make the final four like to. To me it's like you've got to be at a seat at the table and be in a spot where you are ready to take advantage of that. And I don't know, it's like I just, I get frustrated because to me it's like last year was like that was great. If we can do last year, every year, that's great.

Like to me that's fantastic because not every year like last year, is going to end with a loss in the. Around 32, you're going to win some of those. Anyway, I'm it. It's just it it was funny having that conversation two days ago about like just again having that, but so we we shall see. But it's going to be an interesting year. I think it's a good schedule for us. I agree, yeah. All right. Well, I will get you. I know you have to go. We'll let you go.

But want to thank everybody for listening. As always, this is the first of many basketball podcasts we will have. We're getting there. It's like it leaves. I'm looking at my trees right now. The leaves are starting to change. It's time to go to a home field apparel. Spend that, spend that money. Use promo code HOME 23. We want to thank you all, Galen. I'll let you say it because everyone else is stealing your tagline. Like, I don't want to say, bring back the bison there. We go.

I'll let you finish off with that, but I want to thank everybody. So for Galen, this is Scott for Crimson Cast signing off.

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