You're listening to the back home network, presented by home field apparel, welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and Claudia, Scott Caulfield joining you. It is Saturday, March 11th and Indiana has won a big Ten Tournament game and knock off the Maryland. Terrapins last night in what was a pretty impressive game all the way around for Indiana? Were we're going to talk about
that? We're going to talk about the Bracketology implications if there are any and look ahead to this afternoon's, opponent as Indiana going to be taken on the Penn State Nittany. Lions, Scott, good to see you on an early Saturday morning. How we doing? We're in the thick of it, man, we're going. Hey, it's pretty wild. You know, there's such a heavy air that hangs over Indiana in the Big Ten Tournament.
If you're an IU fan, you've been hurt many times by performances and so you know, it's like well let's Savor this because this is nice, as is Indiana, really did. After a little bit of a struggle in the first half, put their stamp on the game and never really wandered away from it before we get to that. He was like sorry, go ahead. Yes. Funny when like Robbie Hummel or the announcers were like man.
Indiana 0 and 3 is a 3, seen it. Like, I know like we are aware like it in like they show like the highlights of like, you know, Great Big Ten tournament games like of the past, and it's like, 90% of more shots against Indiana. Like, I don't know what the stats are. But the number of buzzer beaters that have happened against Indiana have been astronomically high.
It's, it's an interesting, there's a lot of, you know, if you're if you're a superstitious person, there's a lot of material to work with when it comes to Ayub. Queen bob Knight being such a vocal opponent of the Big Ten tournament. It's like, you know, did that
curse. Everything is is it like, you know, when with a whole thing with South Carolina and climbs in where, you know, South Carolina tries to keep plums in from being formed as a university and what they like, buried a like a chicken or chicken bone on the South Carolina campus and that like curse their football program or the fact that, you know, the Mike Davis is the winningest Big Ten Tournament coach in Indiana is History essentially least in
terms of like, how far he's gotten there. So there's all these weird kind of, you know, Mojo sorts of things going on with IU in the Big Ten tournament and it really is honestly some what a surprise when they go out and win a game. And yet Mike Woodson, I think I saw the stat yesterday now has like 20 percent of all of Indiana's, Big Ten, Tournament victories. And so for two years, it's wild anyway before we dive completely into it, a reminder that three wins. Yes, like it's true.
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I think from the Big Ten first and foremost Scott, what we have to mention, is both Maryland player. And I you players coming out and saying after the game that it felt like a home game for Indiana and you know you and I have talked about this a little bit and kind of a macro sense. I you despite having a mediocre basketball program for the last 20 years I mean really it is it is not been a top level program. I think everybody's aware of that, but I you fans still
travel amazingly. Well we saw this out in Vegas. We saw it at Kansas. We see I see Xavier. There were people there and one of my you know, complaints is has been, you know, for a fan base that travels as well as Indiana's does, it feels like they rarely get any kind of reward for showing up and it really felt that way in the first half as Maryland kind of seize control of the game early on and was making problems for Indiana. But when I you really started to get it kicking the fans you
could hear them on television. You can see like this, the Sea of red popping up that That replay of jail, Hood zaffinos 3, the kind of stuck the dagger in for good. And you see the entire one side of the crowd just disrupt, I mean it's no surprise for those of us who know. I mean we've always known Indiana is Chicago's actual Big Ten team, you know, but it but it's great to see. I, you fans show up and and show out to paraphrase, Isaiah,
Thomas, and to be that vocal. And yes, exactly everything. Build a, even away from home, I know it. It was really cool to see and I'm just excited. I'll take credit for that, cuz I remember on an earlier pots Thang, you know, I'll take credit. You're going to take credit for it. Ok, I'm gonna take, ya has nothing.
Do with historical basketball, successor fans going know, I felt like, I think I mentioned on a pod that, you know, based on where fan bases are located and how the teams are feeling this year. That it just, it felt like this could be a very Pro Indiana crowd and I think we're going to see that the right now even more.
So the rest of the women produce closer but they don't travel as well and they probably are This team at arm's length because they're probably nervous of getting their hearts broken, which we probably should do. But no, it's it's, it is an underrated fact, that how well Indiana travels, and we like, Vegas was eye-opening to me because I knew that, but it's
like, all right. Well, you're playing in Vegas like, Arizona. This is a team that has historically last 20 years been better than Indiana.
It was like 70%, Indiana fans. And even like when you and I went to the, I went to the Gator Bowl, rob, you know, in Jack's like that's like it's Tennessee, which is like, they are the facsimile of us. US in basketball and football, I gots a football power and that that's, you know, that was like 60, or 40 percent, Indiana fans, like 45, like way more than it should have been against a team like Tennessee.
So, Indiana fans travel exceptionally well, and that's why I look at, you know, and then let's get back to this game. But I look at this NCAA bracket. It's like if we can just get, you know, Louisville would be a home game. Like, if we can get there, that would be awesome. I Kansas City would also be nice but it's like, if you play Kansas and Kansas City, that's rough, but I look at the way the brackets break.
Like we have some real opportunities for some, you know, great home games for teams that travel anyway, I agree. And I think you're going to see more and more Pro IU crowds as you know as this tournament continues to go and hopefully we got two more games up in Chicago. Yeah, you know, and we start with this Maryland game. And again, this is a game that really, you know, it was, it was eerily similar in a lot of ways to what happened in the first
game. Although accelerated a little bit and I say that from this perspective, you know, in the first game, Nobody remembers the loss but I don't think people remember the flow of it. Indiana actually in that game took a they were up 24 to 20 but actually one point there of 22:15 to the about nine and a half minutes left in the first half and from there Marilyn went on a 13-2 to run you know, seized control of the game they were, you know, Maryland went
from being down 72 up eight in, you know a span of about 10 minutes and Indiana like they chipped away a little bit at the beginning of the second half, but just could not. Right. Get over the hump and Maryland, kind of ran away with it at the end. And then just really just asserting dominance. I think would be the best way of putting it. This game started off in a similar pattern.
Again, Indiana was up 22 to 15 on Maryland with about nine minutes to go and then Marilyn went on, you know, another run. Actually, I'm looking at the wrong chart, let me get the right Shard up. They weren't up 22:15.
They were, I'm sorry, they were up 17 to 13 and then they'll Let Maryland go on an 11-0 run and honestly, I mean when Marilyn went up, you know a couple of times they went up by double digits and it's just kind of like okay this this is going to go off the rails and it really even felt like that coming out
of the halftime. You know, Maryland comes out, they reassert it, they get up 41, it was at 40 1234 and then Indiana went on a 22 to run and just completely seized control of the game and Scott as much as this. Team has been a little bit Mercurial. It was interesting to watch the way that this played out because took Trace Jackson Davis about a half to really get into it. But once he did, he really did Jalen Hurd schiaffino. He had no by no means a perfect game, but he was absolutely
driving. The bus. In terms of offense, the confidence in the differentiation between his mid-range game against Maryland, in College Park, and the game here in the United Center. Was sizable Hood, Cioppino ended up 7 for 11 from to, he ended up 8 for 15 from the floor. All around had two assists had six rebounds and you know those two really did show up and played about as good as you could expect him to play. But what was important in this game.
And what you and I had talked about in the pregame podcast was who else is going to show up for this Indiana team on. And on this night it was Tamar Bates and Malik renew as renew comes off the bench. You know he had Of turnovers, but he ends up with eight points and 11. Rebounds had some really key buckets throughout the course of the game. Like, they were kind of interspersed throughout tomorrow.
Bates played pretty solid, quiet defense for the first half, and then, you know, hit a couple of big shots in the second half and that ended up being something Indiana really needed because, Trey Galloway had another kind of off game where he, he didn't really score much had more, you know, just just kind of struggled to get into the flow of things was Off like on the bench for a while for reasons that I'm not totally sure of and look, they didn't get a gate great game at a race Thompson,
but they got a good game out of Miller cop and watching this team kind of settle itself back down after being in a danger area reassert itself on defense and then have that flow into their offense. That's essentially the pattern we've talked about this team needing to have essentially for the entire second half of the Season. Yeah. I saw it a little bit differently in that, you know. Defense, in my mind was was kind
of the same throughout. Like you look at Maryland scoring, you know, it's pretty you know, they had basically 34 points in the first half and then, you know, 26 in the second. You know, that it was it was a fair break down when you look at like they're scoring on a Ken Palm chart. You know, they had lulls like, you know five minutes to go in the first half they had 30 points. They go to halftime at 34, you know, we were holding them to these three to four minutes
stretches. They're only getting two or four points. It's just the flip side. It's like we went on our Tia to run its that we scored in that time that they weren't scoring as opposed to us not scoring
when they're not scoring. And you know it's unfortunate that this, you know I feel like we're going to say it five more times, you know, hopefully five more times but you know every time the rest of these games it's like again you know we shoot 40 percent from three but we only take ten threes. I'd love to see us. Take more threes but obviously that just isn't going to happen. So we need to know even on the Broadcast think humble was like man.
It's like this team should probably take a couple more threes like it. Yes, you know, but it's just not happening. It's not and look as much as it's frustrating and it becomes problematic. I mean Indiana has won a lot of games this year, not taking very many threes. I mean, well, but I think people forget this, and I think it's important to remember, like, they beat Wisconsin at home, they hit 13 in the whole game. The only took eight, they beat Illinois on the road going 349.
I'm from three, they hit four threes total at the barn. They hit four threes at home against Purdue. They had five against Rutgers, they hit to at home or on the road against Michigan and so on and so forth. Like they just haven't made threes as a part of their winning strategy. In most cases, I mean that, you know, the the exception games were like the Michigan State game at home but, you know, it's like go back to the loss at Iowa, the lost at home versus Northwestern.
They did take and make a lot of Threes in those games and they ended up still losing. So it's it's just not something that Indiana does. And I think it's frustrating. It doesn't feel like it's going to be sustainable. But then in a game like this when Indiana gets control of the game and they're really able to dominate the post. It it's almost it's weird because it seems to they're more likely to score two twos in a row. Then hit a three on every other possession, if that makes sense.
And Ultimately, you know, you there was a stat in this game about two-thirds of the way through where, you know, Maryland was shooting 47% from three but they were shooting 30% from to and Indiana was shooting, 27 percent from three and fifty, four percent from Two. And that by that point, Indiana had claimed control of the game. So I'm with you and I don't like it. I know a lot of people don't like it, but for whatever reason it's working so it's like, I guess this is what we are.
Well, I'll just say it is what it is that the other takeaway that I take from this game is, you know, with let me pull it up again. You know, with like five minutes to go, it's 5950, you know, Indiana's lead, it's by no means over but yet Indiana did a great job of closing this game out and that's something that quietly. They've done a really good job of this year when you think back to you know the home win at Michigan the you know Road win at Purdue that they that was
still a baby. Eight-point game, it was close. You know, the home win against Illinois, the road win at Michigan. Both home wins against Purdue and Rutgers is a lot of games this year. Whereas quote, really are in a spot where if we keep it close we're probably going to win. The only exceptions are the two games against Northwestern. You could say the game at Northwestern, it's like it's possible. A buoy foul and a cannon shot, didn't help the game.
And then the game at Iowa were like we were in the midst of a complete system, failure of the entire second half but ever and that was you know too. A half months ago. Every other game that we played that's close.
We find a way to call on win and that's something that I think as you know, it's we haven't seen for a while as Indiana fans, but we're kind of like, as long as we're not down 15 at halftime or 15 in the second half, this team has shown as I think you can start to feel comfortable that they can claw and get back to a spot where were there within Striking Distance? Or they're up by a little bit, they really do.
Make winning plays in the last five minutes and what's funny is how Locked in people get in those last five minutes like race Thompson, turned into an All-American, at the end of the Michigan game. You know, we needed tomorrow Bates to play great at the end of Michigan game and he did and tonight, see, you know, last night, same thing, everybody kind of did exactly what they needed to do.
And so I'm, I'm impressed and feel good that, you know, normally a lot of these games, as you get deeper into these tournaments are normally relatively close. Like you're probably just not going to get your doors blown off in a neutral site. And Indiana has shown that. If the game is close, they have the mental fortitude and the understanding, and the will to kind of close these things out
and put teams away. Yeah, I mean, they did last night, the, this was a concerning game at the beginning because it felt like Indiana's like biggest Achilles heel was being exposed which was when they're not fully committed to rebounding the opposition just yeah pulls a crapload of rebounds down. There was a point where in Maryland and eight or nine offensive boards and It is look like an effort thing, like Maryland just look like they
wanted the game more. But, you know, one of the really fascinating things about the game was how that changed as it went by. Now, some of that was foul trouble. Julian Reese gets into foul trouble. You know, they started like Maryland was there wasn't getting a lot of fouls called on them, but they were getting like fouls called on the wrong
people. But also, you know, Indiana really did assert themselves on the board, you know, and they started dropping Hood schiaffino into the post more to try to grab rebounds. We've talked a lot on this podcast about how Indiana has kind of abandoned the offensive rebound as a part of their offense. And that's a dangerous game because it means you're really relying on the effectiveness of your shooting alone. Well, Indiana grabbed their offensive rebounding.
Percentage was 30.8% which was the highest since the home game against Illinois. And really, you know, since the Rutgers game was one of only two games where they've been above, like 22% offensive, rebounding, and You know 30% about where you'd like to be and that was nice to see.
The other thing I thought was notable about this game was Indiana's ability to essentially make it hard for Maryland to hit shots and you know as much as Maryland look like they were going to get whatever they wanted early on in the proceedings. It really became progressively harder for Maryland to do what they wanted to do and that, you know, ends up with the situation where you know, you look at the box score for me. Maryland. And, you know, heart had a pretty good game offensively
finished with 16 points. Don Kerry had a pretty good game, but almost all of that was early threes and then he kind of disappeared as the game went on and everybody else was under one point per possession. I mean Jamir, young had a really poor game was 2410 from to was 145 from three, you know?
It was it was just interesting to watch because I, you can at times make it difficult for the opposition to score, but You know, for them to do it, to this Maryland, team who had been playing really well, and I thought, you know, pretty consistently across the board. We talked about that on the podcast yesterday, where they really hadn't outside of that. Ohio State game, hadn't really had any bad games in about a
month and a half. This was probably the best defensive effort against a Maryland team in the in a half segment that I've seen out of a team in the Big Ten so far, you and I both were in Bob, Knight's class defense travels. But that is, that is the nice thing. Here is defense is going to travel. I one of the things that we've talked about before that you saw in full display last night, but it really, it's such a nice addition to this year's team. Enjoy it while it lasts and it
really does add a nice wrinkle. But the ability for Trace Jackson Davis to bring the ball up and initiate the offense is it really does just it, it adds an entire wrinkle that very few teams in the country have. And again, Indiana podcast were biased, but it's like this is again, something that like Zach eat, he's not able to do. I've never seen Zack ET bring.
The ball up like that pass. I am, obviously, the Highlight pass were traces in the air at half court and you bullets a perfect pass to Miller cop for a layup.
That was fantastic. But multiple times, he just takes the ball rebounds it and just drives it down and then sometimes, you know a couple times he brought it down and then just bat got his guy at you know the foul line and is backed him down and it's like he's initiated the entire offense and it changes the way that you have to go about hold on. Simba, yeah, everything. Okay, there Scott. Um, sorry, we're background came in, we're back.
Yes. Yeah, wanted cinnamon toast as well as do. I can you make me some? After you make him some, I can send you some. I will say that I hit him in the face. I didn't mean to, but as you know, Mobsters a key that no, no, no foul called on me. Nothing called no, no. But his it. Village traces ability to come down initiate, the offense like it.
Allows Jalen Hood Ruffino to play off the ball, like cochinos able to place them to even though he's still playing the one, it allows them to do some pick-and-roll.
We're basically Trace, you know, hits it just it adds a whole other layer to the offense and but you saw it in display last night in the second half, where a couple times, it almost look like Marilyn wasn't quite sure what to do and Trace brought the ball down, their effectiveness to pass it off at half court and that he just starts like backing as do down.
So it's just it's again, another example of how Another piece traces added to his game, but how it really, really helps our offense, which it's, you know, it's easy to be like, oh, there's dump the ball in the trace and get a bunch of two's. It's like, this is a really pretty unique and dynamic offense even though it does a lot. It on paper does a lot of the same things. Yeah, so Indiana picks up the Victory. And as we mentioned, they get to the semi-finals of the Big Ten
tournament. This is a bracket that is blown up her that yes, a will Savor that by itself. But, you know, this bracket is blown up as Indiana one. Of to higher seeds, that's avoided getting upset. So far in this tournament, Purdue survives, a scare versus Rutgers. They Advanced to the semi-finals. And then, of course, as everybody had in their bracket, Ohio state has won three games in three days, they knock off Michigan State yesterday.
Despite not having Bryce sensible, and they're going to play against Purdue in one of the semi-finals. That'll be the noon or 1:00 game I guess today, I'm just gonna jump in here. Me and my wife and my oldest we all did a For the Big Ten Tournament to get ready for the NCAA. Just kind of for fun. I have one, right? It is not been. And I remember thinking like, this is stupid. We're all going to have the same. They're all gonna have the same right numbers.
Like this is pretty easy and pretty silly. It's like no well, no, it's not say and this it's interesting, we did me with two. He has to I have one. I feel like an idiot, so I can't it. And I was I was fully prepared to go a different direction with this narrative. If Indiana had lost yesterday but since Indiana Anna one. Is it possible?
Indiana. And Purdue of the only, actually good teams in the conference because ultimately, you can look at Ohio State, making it to the semi-finals and knocking off the teams. They've knocked off, you can look at Illinois, losing to Penn State. Northwestern, who was the the alleged to seed losing to Penn State, you can, you know, you can look at Nebraska who was supposedly this really hot team, they lose to Minnesota. And then, you know, Minnesota, gives Maryland, a little bit of
a game. It's it's just On the one hand, you can say ooh the parity on the other hand you could say wow most of the conference actually had to play at home in order to actually be good. And the only teams that survived were an Ohio State team that's underachieved all year and is like, people forget that Ohio State team is stacked, like, in terms of talent like they got a lot of Talent on that team. They just haven't played very well this year.
And then a Penn State team that plays such a peculiar style of basketball that, you know, it feels like it would. They were specifically, tailor made to beat the two teams that they beat so far. And is certainly maybe three? Well, that's the thing. Well, so, you know, it's funny because a lot of people I was talking with last night, we're debating. Like, who do you want? If Indiana beats, Maryland, do you want Northwestern or Penn
State? And everybody was like oh I'd rather Northwestern. Yeah. See I would much rather have Penn State because I feel like, you know, the Chicago's Penn State's well National TV it's it's more this like is it's possible that Indiana could As badly as they played in State College.
A second time, I just feel like it might be a little bit less likely as that Indiana team, you know, as I think everybody recalls Jordan Geronimo started that game played 23 minutes, you know, there was no race Thompson available. There was no Xavier Johnson available Trace Jackson, Davis had maybe his worst game. One of his two worst games of the year in that one where he only went 4 for 10 from the
field here. He struggled in a lot of areas and peanut Penn State in that game shot 58 percent from three which that's that's hard to replicate anywhere. Let alone on a neutral floor. Now, you know, could I eat my words on all of this? I guess. But I just, I look at this Penn State team and, and then I look at Northwestern and I'm like, I feel like what Northwestern does tends to travel a bit better than what Penn State does. Now, you know, in the two games that Penn State's one so far,
Are they beat? Illinois. 79763 point when they beat Northwestern 67-65 had to go to overtime. Northwestern had a three that bounced off the rim, that could have won the game. This has not been a dominant run thus far by this Penn State team and they haven't shot the three as well as they shot the three against Indiana that, you know, they hits eight threes against Illinois, they hit seven threes. They again, we're not going to replicate 58%.
Well, that's my that's my point is that, you know, the the game Indiana in the Big Ten was by far, the game, where Penn State hit the most three-pointers. They had 18 in that game. The only other game that they hit 18 at all. This season was their opener against Winthrop. So, you know, to some degree that game is a bit of a statistical Oddity, and I also think Penn State's got a real likelihood to be a bit tired coming into this contest.
So as I think about this matchup right now, a couple of things are I think key first is like, what in the Really does well and in print and state doesn't do particularly well. Indiana scores at a pretty high rate and India and Penn State has trouble defending. You look at Penn State's overall metrics their 113th and defensive efficiency, they are 14th or 16th and offensive efficiency.
So they certainly know how to score but the way that they do it is I think something that Indiana can counter if they are locked in defensively and if you go back and watch that first game, they really just were not locked. In defensively in that game at all. I mean they were losing people left and right. I just feel like both of these teams have changed a lot over the course of the last month and a half Penn State.
At this point has played their way into the field but I think Indiana is looking at this and saying we are capable of beating this team. What you saw in January was not representative of what we are today as giggling. This is not on you but just it is funny like the you're saying that they can your Penn State could be tired, which is true but like Flip side. It's like you're also worried because Marilyn had played a game so they're like warmed up. So it's like true no matter what.
But, um, no II agree with you, I think I'm not trying to wash away that loss, but it did feel like the Confluence of events for that. Penn State game are unlikely to happen again, where that was an Indiana team that was at the lowest point of confidence. It had all season, maybe the most injury issues that had all season, you had Trace kind of fighting off whatever he had. He had at that point in the season, you had jail, huh? Chafee know just coming back
from a backer injury. You had already lost a race. Think you had already lost Xavier. I mean, you were like you were down as much as you could physically, and then that was a team that was mentally really shaken and that was kind of the final blow and then you had a Penn State team that just shot out of their mind and then that's one way to look at that. You also look at this Penn State team. A lot of the things that you know, we don't do well, they don't do well.
He like they are one of the worst offensive rebounding teams in the country. Think they're the worst actually I think 363, it's so hard. I can't. I can't quite read it because it's so rare that it can bomb. You know, they are. There they are the worst. There are only three hundred sixty three Division, 1 teams. They are dead last in offensive rebounding and they're dead last in getting to the free-throw line.
Yeah. And then when they get there they're one of the worst free-throw through shooting teams as well. They don't they turn the ball over or that they don't create a lot of turnovers like it. It does feel like that matchup was a lot of things were going wrong for Indiana. A lot of things went right for Penn State and so in that respect I do, I do feel good about it and, you know, I think this team plays well with
confidence, they play. Well, you know, I feel good about this game, I would have rather played Northwestern. I kind of like would have liked to have gotten that monkey off our back. But you know, as you've pointed out before they go on Twitter and on here that you know, the fallacy of like it's really hard to beat a team three times. It's like it's actually not true. It's like normally when you beat somebody twice, you beat him a third time because you're the better team or you have some
kind of competitive advantage. And we'll see that when if Indiana plays Purdue tomorrow. But no, I think this is a it's it's a good matchup and it does feel like this might be more kind of water meeting is level on both sides where you know, Penn State may not have the game that they had.
And, you know, we have the game and I will again say to the difference here, is you talk about difference in growth, you know, Trace Jackson Davis looks fully healthy, he didn't look healthy and that game at Penn State, but The growth that you've seen of Jalen Hood, shh, pheno in just the last two and a half months and again, something you say a lot, it's like this is something that I you fans are not used to seeing, you know, or
dealing with is just the we're kind of used to that, you know, Oladipo like sophomore to junior year, like, oh, I haven't seen him since March. And now, in October, he's a total different player like watching Hood Shafi. No last night. It's like, he is so calm. So collected. So, like, I'm just going to take two dribbles, low back dribble. I'm just gonna get a mid-range, like, he is Is not the same player that he was in January,
it is just night and day. And that is a huge difference that he just, this was not the player who went to Nittany Valley, or Happy Valley Nittany, Lions. Happy Valley in January. And that's the, oh, he's now our second best player and at times our most important player, and he is a vastly different player than he was two, and a half months ago. And I think that's, that's the
difference. I think an important thing to keep in mind, we talked about this a little bit yesterday with him, about how he hadn't had two good games really back-to-back. Well, he's had, he just had two games back to back there. Pretty good. The game at home against Michigan and in his first game against Maryland in the tournament. His, you know what I love about him, is, there was a five-game, stretch there, where his usage rate was over 27, and that's pretty high.
For a, you know, freshman point guard who's, you know, you would prefer not to have him have to do that much, but he did and, you know, Indiana was three, and two in that stretch he's backed off a little bit as he's been able to get the ball. More consistently to trace Jackson, Davis or two other teammates, but yeah, I mean, he has blossomed in a way that you just don't see that often among freshmen and Indiana.
And I think that ultimately, as, you know, the big question I had was, how is he going to react being in that moment and how he reacted was, I want to go demonstrate everything that I can do. And again, it wasn't a perfect game but it was a darn good game. I mean, 7411 for mid-range. Range that Dagger of a three-pointer at the end of the game that just really put it Beyond any reasonable doubt. And again his work on the board.
Yeah you meant to threes like we don't shoot a lot of them but we do have the and I think this is the way they offense is designed. Like when we hit threes they are big. Yeah. Like we hit them at the right times. Yeah, you know and look I think from for her Jaffe know, a lot of it really now comes down to, you know, with this team.
He knows that he's going to have to be A secondary offensive option, sometimes the primary offensive option and, you know, Mike Woodson is in an interesting spot because he has to essentially try to balance like you know, when can I sit General Hunter? Pheno down, he didn't last night. This is cute two games in a row. Now, we're Hood if he knows played all 40 minutes because I, you there's just nobody that can back him up. Effectively, you can't play tray Galloway.
At the point. You can't play tomorrow Bates at the point. And there's times when He has to play through periods. Retraced Jackson Davis is not on the floor. And so, you know, watching him, I noticed yesterday, I'd never really seen him shooting the 16 Footers from, you know, basically kind of that spot between the wing and the corner. Like he was really like normally a lot of his shots are coming right around the elbow and here he was swinging way out. It was just interesting to watch
that. I don't know if that was a wrinkle that he just decided to add or if they saw something on film that they thought might be, might be able to take Vantage of. But yeah, I was, I was really, really pleased with with how he he played overall, and I think ultimately he's going to have to be essentially the same type of player every game from this point forward and fortunately, he's young, he's 18 years old or 19 years old.
I'm assuming he can handle that. He wants that type of of pressure, but it is, it is kind of interesting thinking about it in that his his performances in the way that he has Has managed to grow into his role has not taken away from Tres Jackson. Davis has ability to do the things that he does and in some cases it's actually augmented it. It's meant that race doesn't have to go for twenty eight and 15, for Indiana to win like was happening at the beginning of
the win streak. He's able to now kind of pick and choose his spots a lot better. You mentioned, you know, Jordan sorry. Jail hitch. If you know, having back-to-back good games, the last time he had two games of it, all Ends of rating of 100 or plus, so he's one of six against Michigan, 105 last night against Maryland. The last time he did two of those, was the loss that I were the loss at Northwestern.
And then the game after that was Penn State where he was under 100. So, this is going to be a, you know, an offensive rating. Can Palm demon to exercise as well is going three in a row and doing it against Penn State. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's going to be interesting.
And I think, you know, I'm just fascinated for this particular matchup with Penn State. You know, you look at what Indiana's going to do or what they need to try to do clearly, they have to try to run Penn State off the three-point line, as much as possible. And I think with, you know, when you think about what Penn State has done over the course of this season and what they're doing here down the stretch, they they are finding some Secret Sauce to win, close games.
And Indiana has also, as you mentioned earlier with their closing, ability has demonstrated an ability to do that you figure in Penn State's last 56 games. They've they've got a four-point. Actually, this go back seven, they have a seven-point win, a four-point win! A three-point loss, a three-point overtime, win a one point win a three point win and a two-point overtime win. This is a Penn State team that's living right on the razor's Edge.
And you know, it's the seems very simple but you know, where they've really thrived in that time period. And and I think we're Indiana's just going to have to do whatever they can to make it hard to do is Penn State's offense. Active field, goal, percentages have been off the charts in almost all of those games. The Northwestern game was kind of a, the one in the north will actually both Northwestern games really.
But this one, especially in the Big Ten Tournament were a little bit of outliers in that they shot under 50% effective field goal percentage. But you know, I just think for Indiana the defense has to be what wins them this game. I think offense will come, there's not really an effective counter on Penn State side for Trace.
Jackson Davis, there's not really an effective counter for the mid-range game, that Jalen Hurd Ruffino is demonstrated his ability to have it. So now, it really comes down to can Indiana limit, what Penn State is doing offensively effectively enough, that their offense, can, can rule the day and I think they can, you know, I think this is one of those situations where if Indiana can get locked in defensively early and Penn State, misses some shots early.
It could be a situation where Penn State isn't quite able to keep up it. Could be the opposite of Penn State comes out, hit some threes early, get some momentum. That is where I'm concerned a little bit. It doesn't really matter for I, you what happens in this game, you know, there's a there's a tremendously outside shot of the three seed, but they also could be a five seed. Like it's really hard to figure out what's going on in that area
of the bracket right now. So, to some degree, I think a lot of that's out of their hands, but I do think that this is a game that for their own self. Confidence would be great to see Indiana when both, To a Big Ten title game but also to say yeah that the worst loss we had on our resume essentially. Wasn't like it was a, it was a, it was an anachronism. It wasn't actually real in the
sense of where we are today. So you think the, I feel like this lock system as a for for the NCAA tournament? You you still think that, you know, 5 is possible? Well yeah. What are you seeing in the bracket around us. Here's okay. So I haven't run a bracket yet this morning, I'm waiting for my numbers too. Update. But I'll say this like a lot of question marks around how the that eight or nine teams that are kind of in the 345 Ranger actually being ranked by the committee.
You know, I feel like right now there's you know, you have your one seed Group which is basically Alabama, Kansas Houston, Purdue UCLA, Texas. And then you've got the next phase, which is basically like teams that are either going to be twos or threes. That's basically, I think Gonzaga Zona Marquette and Baylor.
Then from there, essentially, you've got Yukon Xavier Tennessee, Kansas State, Indiana Virginia, Miami Creighton, San Diego State, Iowa State. I don't know what the committee is going to ultimately prefer out of that group. You've got teams like Tennessee and Connecticut who are analytics Darlings, they rate very highly in the project in the Predictive Analytics, they've they've won good games but they're, they're not necessarily playing great.
Basketball is actually really disappointed in what I saw to Tennessee yesterday and that loss to Mizzou, you've got teams like Kansas state, which have a lot of wins, but then you actually start to pick their resume apart, and it's not that impressive because most of the Winds just came against other Big, 12 teams. And I think that it's clear that the Big 12 gamed the net to some degree.
And then you've got the ACC teams like Virginia, you know, they beat Clemson there in the ACC title game. They're going to play Duke and, you know, they beat Duke. That's a really good win for them. Creighton lost Xavier's on a nice charge forward. My point in all of this is I don't know where Indiana actually was coming into it. I taken the average of everything and I think they've been at a for. I think that it's very likely. They would stay at a four.
But like, how does the committee decide to handle Iowa State? Who has more quad, one wins than Indiana, you know? And like even though they've got they've had some personal Chanel, changes and things like that. They've also had a lot of impressive victories here lately. I don't know how that factors in. I don't know how the committee's going to factor in, you know, Xavier running all the way to
the the Big East title game. So that's where, if the committee's looking at Indiana and they're thinking about them the same way they thought about them, when they had them as the top four seed in the reveal a few weeks ago it is very possible that Indiana's actually a three. I don't think that's likely but it is possible.
And if they win today Would further burnish their credentials in relation to that especially if you see, you know, you know, like Virginia losses to Duke or something like that in the ACC title game. But I also don't know how much tinkering the committee's doing with the bracket on the one-handed like to say, they're not doing that much. On the other hand there was a quote, I read somewhere about how Chris Reynolds. Who's the head of the selection committee? Said here it is.
This is Jason Horowitz who tweeted this. This was earlier on Friday committee chair. Chris Reynolds told me that six or seven teams are still being considered for the one seed, which included like Texas UCLA Purdue, well, if that's the case then, they haven't set the top of the field yet and maybe they are waiting a little bit longer than normal to figure out exactly what order everybody plugs into. So the longer now, it's like the longer Indiana stays alive, the more impressive their
credentials are. And you've also got Ohio state who's making this big run and there. Their Nets improving suddenly that win Indiana had against Ohio. State starts to look a little bit better. Of course, the flip side was that made the Michigan State when look worse, you know? So it's all a Continuum. I just, and I'll be transparent here. I don't know what the committee ultimately is thinking, and I don't know what they're going to
prefer. I think Indiana's probably going to land is probably the, you know, the, you know, maybe the second or third for seed maybe the top four seed, I'd be surprised if they were three but I don't think it's impossible at this point. Yeah, that quote from Christmas just made me chuckle because it's like, what do you expect him to say like it Friday morning. He's like, oh, we're pretty well set. Yeah, I'm actually taking I'm actually taking tomorrow off.
Like I'm not gonna I kind of want to watch them drop coverage and then okay, I know, you know, we have the bracket and we'll get there someday. I want, I guess you're right, it is funny. But I will on the flip side, I will say that most of the time. These folks in this sort of setting, they're not going to like out like, oh just overtly lie about what they're thinking and doing because like why you could just feel like well we have a pretty good idea.
Who the one seeds are, you know? But we're we haven't finalized anything but the fact that they like specifically said, oh yeah, six or seven teams still alive tells me. There's some other things open as well. Yeah, you know, as a fan of a team that hasn't won a Big Ten Tournament title, you know, I'd love to see the Indiana. Purdue Reba, I'll ask, I'll ask you this question. I'll answer it as I ask it. Who would you assuming we beat Penn State? Let's start assuming fun stuff.
Who would you want to see in the final for me? The triple rematch would be fun, you know, be fun, Indiana, Purdue going for it. All that said, I'm rooting for Ohio State. I love to see Ohio State in the final and like, I don't care if we get a pretty easy route to a Big Ten Tournament title, like it's been 24 years there, have it easy routes have been hard routes, we screw them all up.
Like, I'd like to just win one and I do think this could be a, you know, playing Ohio. State is just an easier lift, both from a team perspective, and just not having to bounce around with Edie for 40 minutes and And I would rather just not play. Purdue although as much fun as another Purdue metric would be, I'm actually not sure how hard you want to go against Purdue in that game on Sunday. Knowing you have to turn around and play five days later.
But what's your thought is a, I don't care. I just want to get to the title game and oh, well, no, I'm not in this for this. I mean, this from this perspective, I don't care. I mean, you can make the argument if you really wanted to go down the pathway of which team, it's like, well yeah, I mean Bang. Around against Purdue would be a lot and, you know, but I don't know every time I see someone saying, well, gosh, you know, you don't want to play in the championship game because he had
to play a few days later. It's like this happens every year in a bunch of different conferences, teams win their conference titles and then turn around and play really well in the NCAA tournament. It's and teams that are no more or less deep than Indiana. You know teams that are running. Seven man rotations it's pretty straightforward.
You know let me laugh. Last year Kansas, they beat Texas Tech in the Big 12 tournament championship and they got turn around and play on Thursday and then Saturday, and they won. Both of those games, and then they got some time off, and then they went out and won the regional, and then they won the National Championship. I mean, it doesn't have to be. Well, gosh, you can either spend all your energy on this game or you can play well in the
tournament. And so I just think that that's there's that's been kind of a, it's almost. It's like an old. Yeah, I know it. Well, Just a narrative that doesn't have a lot of grounding in reality. It's very much independent to each team's, you know, levels of whatever. And I think when I get down to it, my my thought process is ultimately this, would it be better to play? Purdue play them closed, you know win or lose whatever.
If you play Ohio State and they get hot and they end up winning. Do you feel worse about yourself because you lost to a 13 seed? Certainly you're not going to feel any Worse, if you beat Ohio State in the Big Ten Tournament championship game, I would love another crack at Purdue, but I also think playing Ohio state would be an easier matchup for Indiana.
All Things Considered. So that's where to me, it doesn't matter and to me like winning the Penn State game and getting to that title game, it really does feel like a bonus but it feels like we talked before about. What is this motivation? What is the motivation for this team going to be are they going to come out and you know care about being You know, participant in the Big Ten Tournament, it didn't really matter from a seating perspective at least we didn't think that it did.
So, does it really matter to them how they perform in the Big Ten Tournament? As it turned out, it did like they had plenty of chances to kind of fold up tents in that Maryland game. And just be like, well, we showed up and now let's move on and go to the ncaa's. But this team looks like it's got a little bit of mission in
them, and I do like that. And I think that ultimately the chance for This team to play in a Big Ten Tournament game is really important to give them a feeling of doing something that is important, something that is bigger than just an individual game. I think psychologically that could help regardless of who they're playing against and if it's Purdue so much the better because they've shown they get up mentally for Purdue and you know, that's that.
That's what I want them to. I want them in that mindset as they're going into the neck now. Hopefully, they don't, you know, they beat Purdue in the Big Ten title game. Let's avoid what they did after they beat. To MacKay in the first boat race by Oral Roberts Roberts. Right? Right, right. So but that's, that's my thought on it. I'm not trying to be unfun. I just I, you know, Ohio state is playing, so such significantly different basketball, now than they were before.
It's hard to really get your head wrapped around. Like, who are they, like, what are they? You know, it's funny like, well, you know, we're here, debating bubble teams and who's going to get in? And I asked the question on Twitter yesterday, it's like Like if Ohio State wins these last two games and gets to 18 and 18 and wins the auto bid where you, where you going to put them in the field, you know, people say like 12, 13 play in
game. It's like this team's 49th in can pump like, this is a team that the metrics have not left them, even if they're recommended been. They've been like top 50, Ken Palm all C's. Yeah, he says their records kind of bad. Like they've been quietly. A very good metrics team. Yeah, they've been a team that's like struggled to get over the Clearly. But they've also won five of their last six games. And, you know, they're, they've played pretty well even in a lot of the losses that they had.
I mean, they went to overtime tied at Rutgers they lost by three at Nebraska, they lost by five at home to Wisconsin. They lost by six at home to Northwestern. I mean, they've been in a lot of games and so I, you know, I think it'd be it'd be a mistake for IU fans to look at. What do you want /? Do you want Ohio State and say, oh you want Ohio State? It's a much easier team.
Indiana's, beating Purdue twice. You know, Indiana did beat Ohio State once but that was clearly a different Ohio State team than what you're dealing with right now. Yeah, you're the Big Ten. It's like you are you are like, Indiana. Purdue is a very sexy finals. Matchup. I don't think, Ohio state, is this a white? Is it the same is, is the big kind of where that, I you produce a rivalry like, they, you know, we get a lot of Ohio State Michigan.
We get, we do, we get a lot of, you know, like Iowa versus Minnesota or we get outta or we know, we'll get, like, it feels like Michigan State. It's a lot of Michigan, Michigan State. We get Ohio State Penn State, which I guess it's a rivalry in some eyes, like, I to some degree feel like of all of the actual major natural rivals.
In the conference, the IU per do is kind of been left aside as an afterthought like even in those throwback games that they'll show, they've only got like a rotation of two games that they show between Indiana and Purdue. Where is it got like 19 or 20 between Michigan and Ohio State. So I'm not you say that. It'd be a sexy matchup, I'm not entirely sure. The big Ten's aware that these two teams are longtime rivals.
That that's fair. I will also say we've done this to ourselves by not having good matchups like that, though. I've been dead. We've been good or not good and vice versa, but which even more reason, why it wouldn't be a sexy matchup. But no, it would be the the building would be fascinating because it would be 75 %, IU fans and it would be, I don't know.
The vibe would be fascinating, you know, I would love to see it. I mean, Indiana's only been in one big ten title game and its history and I was there at that. One. That was the game against Iowa in 2001 and it's, it's just, it feels like 22 years has been long enough. Like it's probably time to go back once again and tough opponent with this Penn State team, but I like Indiana's chances given the fact that, you know, I feel like they have a better sense of who they are.
They've got a more complete roster, they're not starting Jordan Geronimo. I think that defensively, they'll be more locked in and more aware of what they need to do. And it feels like offensively. After a little bit of a tough stretch, in that, Maryland, game they've got their legs under them now in this tournament and that's really what I think is going to be important in terms of going out and matching Penn State shot-for-shot early.
So I block off Thursday, Friday and Saturday, Sunday of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament because I love those days and I block them off and I like watching basketball. I haven't done a good job of blocking off these days in the Big Ten Tournament just because I love God. What do you all? But what Why would I?
And so tonight you know we have some friends with there's a neighborhood like a community sponsored trivia night that we're doing at 7 and then a couple weeks away from what neighbors you have. You have what we're doing trivia night, okay? Neighborhood. Tribute, you are much more tightly knit in your neighborhood than I am. Like, you know, we can't even agree on when is a good time to mow Lawns on Sunday?
Wow. Get out up to Westfield, so immunity, but then my close neighbors, you know, part of my rotating group of, you know, friends I bring the games they wanted to do. We're doing dinner and a wine tasting before. So we're leaving at like 3:30 4:00 and I like my wife is she's a big fan too but I'm like going to be the guy on my phone at a you know night out doing a wine tasting and then a dinner. I'm just going to be like watching the game on my phone and kind of do a sounds good.
Yeah, sounds good. So I I may not be closely night to my neighbors after tonight. I will have stories of how this goes tomorrow, but I'm going to be that guy. And then, you know, I actually have God, I don't want to say it. You're gonna make fun of me even more. I'm in a pickleball league on Sundays. So it's like I'm going to miss part of the possible, Big Ten championship game because, you know, I'm in that on Sundays and I wasn't expecting, it's like
just the I love. I you blowing up my weekend, plans, it's great, it's better than the other way where I'm just like, all right, who cares about, you know, Michigan, State Iowa. I still can't believe you have a week like a neighborhood trivia night. That's fascinating. How many people participate in this? I need to know more. So it's there's like eight tables. Each table has you know six or eight people. You're talking like 60 70 people from the neighborhood come
around. We do it like once a year. It said we have a clubhouse or neighborhood. You do it once a year and someone schedules it during the Big Ten tournament. It's not ideal. So, if I say yes, it's not ideal but it's not an ideal. Time to scare other no sports fans, out of these 60 people that are there. I mean, it's kind of wild the the people who schedule it. I would say or definitely not sports fans and we'll put it together. Are the people that you would expect to be very into HOA
things and responsibility. Leave it at that. Yes, that I hope. I hope they're not like they're looking at the bracket Matrix much and yeah, I hope they're not listening to this podcast, your HOA fees might start going up. I can guarantee you, they are not listening to this podcast. Just talk all the smack on this podcast with impunity. I love it. I'll let you know how we do. Yeah, good.
Well, good luck with that, and you're doing this at 3:30 in the afternoon wine tasting, wine, tasting at 3:30 and then dinner and then the 7:00, you know, is a tip. Are you wearing like a top hat to this like what's like what? About dinner and then a spot some trivia at 7:00. Oh Cheerio yes I think the butler the butler is driving us there so it'll be nice. He folks wondered how the other half lives, you're getting a peek into it here anyway, well,
I gotta mention promo code home. Yes, gonna hope for you to use. They're sponsoring home Fang. The promo code Daddy's got wine to drink. Yes go. Yep. Scott's got the third mortgage going to pay for all this now so I screwed up the then I try to piss away with the Pacers moneyline. Yeah, there you go. But I did notice it. Let's finish off with the betting lines. Yes, would be James to be unhappy. Yeah, I want a couple parlays. I've done well, but the, the
betting line for this game. I've not pulled it up. Yeah, I know this. So as so it started it started at Indiana. Ah, by 3 and it is gone up to I believe Indiana three-and-a-half. I'm checking it right now. Yeah. So Indiana right now. Three and a half Point favorite over under is a hundred and thirty nine point five. So you're talking about probably, like, that'd be about a, you know what, 72 or 72 268 win, for Indiana, they're projected. Actually it's we talk.
It just went up to Indiana - for literally literally switched over. That's interesting. I mean it's moved to full point Indiana's Direction. You know what that happened? That happened. Yep. See see people. People are somehow listening live which frightens me since we're not actually broadcasting this life. But no this happened yesterday recall as you know the line went from like it was plus 1 for both teams which was weird all the way up to Indiana - two and a half and then it's settled.
I think in Indiana - one and a half. So there is movement in a three and a half on DraftKings. Yeah. So there's there is movement in favor of Indiana, which, you know, is probably a lot of public money. I can't imagine as a lot of people, betting Penn State out of fandom. So, you know, at this point, I would say, honestly, Penn State plus four is not a terrible play because I think this is going to
be a close game. You know, this is a game where, you know, I love Indiana to kind of do what they did in this one, where they grabbed control with, about 10 minutes to go, and don't let go I finally did that Scott. Yeah, I'd like to thank them like this game, the game at Purdue, they finally started grab control of games and take them all the way to the end. I don't know if they're gonna be able to do that against Penn State. But, you know, I do think that 34 Point margin is a good one.
I do think Indiana should be the favorite in this game and then go the stronger team overall. I think the metrics demonstrate that BPI, I think has Indiana like rated to win by like five and a half but Ken palm oil has got them ready to win by like one. So it's or two I think but tortex got them up by one and a half.
So the metrics think this is relatively even but this time in Indiana's favor looking at at Haslam metrics, let's check that out real quick as that's a pretty good measure of seeing where everybody's at in relation to each other. Indiana in this one is going to be projected against Penn State. Yeah. They're about a one and a half Point favorite in hasil metrics as well.
And again, last, you know, yesterday, They were about a one and a half Point Underdog, so that might be a good thing for Indiana. Obviously if they're projected a little bit stronger than Penn State here. So, we'll see what happens. But yeah, overall should be a fun one games at 3:30. Hopefully, everybody enjoys it Scott. Any final thoughts before we wrap up. No, man, this is this is fun.
I mean this is him to have to still be like to have a matchup where I think there's a real possibility, you know finals matchup of the Big Ten Tournament against Purdue would be fun. It would be annoying. If Purdue when's, the big 10 outright and then also in the Big Ten Tournament against us. But so the brakes and, you know, we're there and get into a, you know, a second final. Like we thought we'd be here, it's wild but you know, Bobby three years later, thought we get to a final.
We're gonna maybe we're really really close, but no, it's it, you know, I joke with this about Jared on the last pod, you know, there are some whether it be tongue-in-cheek Stakes.
There are some steaks here where, you know, you joke about, you know, Mike Woods. Having 20% of all big 10 tournament wins but like he's you know, one or one or two more wins to more obviously, but one more win and like you have the discussion like as Mike Woodson the best Big 10 tournament coach I've ever had is Trace Jackson Davis, the best player that we've had in the Big Ten Tournament. There's some and again you could laugh. I got who cares. It's a small sample sizes.
All right, but you know I'll quote Jared like if they're gonna play the damn thing like you got to keep track of stats and you might as well be good in it. And you are getting to a point where if they can win today, this is the Best 2 year run we've ever had in this tournament and it happened under trace and Jalen and Mike Woodson. And that's that's not nothing.
I agree. And yeah it's one of those things I think, as a defense mechanism, I you fans of cut the Big Ten Tournament out of their lives. You know, it's it's like the family member. I'm planning planning weekends. It's we'll see you next week. It's a family member who won't stop arguing about politics.
You know, the holiday you just like I don't want that energy in my life and it's it is as You said before it is possible to be good at the Big Ten Tournament, like, you don't have to suck at it. It's not a requirement Indiana and so I would love to see them get back to the title game and it could be an illustration that this team actually does have some Firepower and some ability to play in games like this.
And I'm excited because I think, you know, I mean, I Penn State is a unique team, they're a very different team. And I think, one of the things that you learn watching basketball for many years, is that the NCAA A tournament, especially the first round match-up. You got a lot of matchups against a lot of quirky teams that do like one thing, well, that most teams don't. So the fact that Indiana has only played Penn State wants. A gets revenge game B has to prep on short, rest against a
team. That does something entirely different from the last team and see that it's going to require them to play really good defense for 40 minutes if they're going to come out with a victory. All of those things I like and whether or not any Wins or loses this game. I think it'll be an important step along the way for them and I don't think Penn State should be underrated. I think you know, Jalen Pickett deservedly is viewed as one of
the best players in the league. And they've got other really good pieces. They've got three guys shooting over. 40% from three, four. If you count Michael hen who hasn't taken that many so it's a challenge, it's not an overwhelming challenge Indiana's.
Got more talent. I think Indiana should win, but they're going to have to play their a game to come up with that Victory. So we'll look forward to seeing it. I appreciate everybody listening and if you made it through the hole, you made it through the whole hour. We drop this at about 10:30 and the games at 3:30. So, if you make it all the way through, and you didn't listen to as it, like, 2x speed more power to you, I really think you're You're Swell.
We'll go ahead and wrap up. Scott has to go get dressed for his trivia day and top hat and all I'm going to go get dressed to watch. IU basketball. Anyway, thanks so filled up. Carol. Thanks to our friends at the back home network and thanks to you. Our loyal listeners will be back one way or another on Sunday morning. Catch you folks on the flip side, bring back the Bison. So everybody