You're listening to the back home network presented by home field apparel welcome back to Crimson, Cask ale and clavius got Caulfield joining. You it is Sunday February 12th. And Indiana coming up a big win. Last night, I guess you could say, well, yesterday, evening, whatever. It would be, as they go on the road knockoff, the Michigan Wolverines and Scott one of those games that you looked at on the schedule and it was like, gosh, that's going to be a tough one. Maybe a bridge too far.
Certainly felt like it for a while for this Indiana team, but they find a way to win and we're going to talk about all that. And some of the implications that come out of that game First of all, good to see you. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Good to see you too. Good. Sunday morning, it's warm it up till it cools down again. As we do in February every year in Indiana. Now, that was a, we'll talk more about it. Obviously is were only 12
seconds into the podcast. We normally run three hours long here, right? But no, I mean that to me, that game was kind of a key that unlocks, a lot of different ways because I went into it kind of thinking, all right. Like, you know, that's a tough one and then and then it's like man, you know, then you got to win another tough road game at Northwestern. And you're back to Illinois and Michigan. State Purdue looks like to tough
road games. But, you know, as like, if we could win this, I don't think that, you know, a team that could win at Michigan could also win a Northwestern. Can, you know, obviously win at home against Illinois. It's like it kind of opens up a lot of things. And honestly, now staring at the rest of the year, obviously, get to this, but it's like, I'm kind of already mentally chalking up the Michigan State, Purdue games as losses.
But now it's a lot easier to chop those up as losses, knowing we might have You know, two more wins ahead of us. So I know it's all, it's all really good and that was a, that was a simple win. This is how psychologically damaged Scott is. An IU fan is his reaction to a win on. The road, is to immediately chalk up two losses on the road that are coming already chalked up. But I'm happy to talk them up.
So there you go. This is where if you can send help to Scott he's he lives in Indianapolis area. There's a professional there. We can get to him know, I've been sending these balloons up to try and get help. Getting shot down. Like, I don't know what's going on, please let my balloons fly goodness. Yes, before we get to all of that. Just a reminder. We're part of the backbone Network here. The back of network is brought
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Yeah. So it's too. I have the oval sweatshirt. Crewneck sweater that I wore yesterday and that, that's what I rocked for the game. Nice, I love the oval hat. I might need to, you know, get a home field store, you know, a pop-up store and give it a try. No, it looks good. I like that. I like you, man. I'm, I don't get people. I hate for the logo. Like it's something different and we don't have a ton of Throwbacks, like, it is funny.
You watch. I, you play in their 87 Throwbacks and it's like, you can go half the game and be like, wait, are they were in the throwback? Like that's, that's not what an effective throwback shouldn't be where I can watch you for 20 minutes, then like, have to squint and like, wait, is that the throwback have? No, it's it is very much I use kind of like a weight, is that piping like a quarter inch? Thinner must be a throwback. It is, it is, it would be great if one game.
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forward. So I'm glad that the whole field not just giving you great. But also acting as a charity. For those poor schools in the ACC, let's talk about IU and Michigan. Basketball happened yesterday, the Hoosiers. One of those games where you kind of go through the whole thing and even when Indiana briefly takes the lead, a couple of times early on in the second half immediately. Michigan responds. And I know a lot of people felt this way.
It's just like, you know what? I don't see Indiana winning this game. It just had all the earmarks of games that we've gotten used to, with this Indiana team of a team that or of a, you know, a game that this program would ultimately fail to bring home on the road, really not getting very good play out of anybody. Except for Trace Jackson, Davis and Jalen Hood. Fino just mistake after mistake
and key moments. And yet, Michigan was also So, prone to about of self-destruction, in this one, and Indiana managed to figure out a way to win. Again, very similar to what happened in the Minnesota, game on the road, but this one felt like a more important game because this was a Michigan team. Unlike that Minnesota team, this is a Michigan team that is or was, I guess Vic, you know, kind of fighting for their life, from a tournament perspective, they're outside the bubble
looking in right now. They had shown the ability to do some good things, they'd beaten Northwestern Twice. They beat Penn State, they beat Maryland heavily earlier on in the year. So you know you look at this game and you're like well you know gosh it was not a great game for Indiana against the team that probably isn't going to make the tournament. And yet, Michigan has shown on its best days that it can be a tournament caliber team. They just fumbled down the stretch.
They didn't score for the last five minutes and Indiana scored, just enough and made a boatload of defensive plays and somehow found a way to win. Win at the end. So I listened to your preview pot on the drive, up to Fort Wayne. Spend some time with the inlaws yesterday, watching the game there, it was nice watching game with some family who also are you fans sprinkled in that my
wife's side of the family. Because in previous years, I've been up there for games and it's like why are you watching this? Like they're down by 15. And it's like, God but I like doing this and this was like, oh it's a fuck. He will come again after dinner. It was a fun game like people are getting into it like oh yes, this is what it was to be like. But on the drive up there to Fort Wayne. Listening to your pod and I realized two things. This is not only a tough road win.
But, you know, probably for the first time since 2016 and I'm not even sure that I have to look at exactly the games we played at the end of the season. You know, this is the first time that Indiana is going to have a run where we're basically outside of that Purdue game in Mackay were a scout for every other team we play. And you could see it. But you can see Michigan complying with that desperation. Like, we've got to win this game to keep our tournament hope so.
Live and honestly that's a it's like tough road game. Like that's another layer on top of it, playing a team that is trying to scalp you. And we just haven't been there for seven, eight years, and that's a learned skill as well. And I was watching that thinking as you through most of the game, like this is a game that Michigan's probably going to win because they're just going to need it more.
And the amazing thing digging into the stats, we pull it up, you know, with Five minutes to go basically. Michigan is up 61 258, Michigan, finish with 61 points because five minutes of just not scoring, not like well, did you have a free-throw? Didn't give up a field goal, or on the floor? Like, just no scoring now they had some let's call it bizarre possessions and some odd choices, but five minutes of just holding a team that is desperate to not scoring at the end of the game.
That's, that's defense. Like that's making a lot of good moves on your end. Now granted we only scored you No, on our own. We only scored, four more points. But those are the four points that mattered and you held Michigan. I mean, and even go back to the 10-minute. Mark, the game is, you know, 56 252. I mean in 10 minutes, you hold a team that is at home? That is desperate to win a game that has a lot of offensive options. You hold them. 25 points in 10
minutes. That's, you know, I think those the show up. Well, the metrics for your defense though. So it is, it's a, it's a great game and it's the kind of Skill. That's that's well-learned because when you play Northwestern Wednesday, it's the same thing. They are trying to scalp you and win. When you play Illinois, you're at home but they need you to win to get into the tournament. So yeah, it was it was a great game. Will I have a lot of notes here and tjd.
I want to talk to you about but no at the top level that was great in the last thing I'll say is what was really nice about it was there was moments where we'd get down, you know, six eight ten or so right in that range we never let the Game get away. You know that was the thing with Maryland. Always felt like that was a winnable game but we kind of just let it get past that break point where it's like we're not within two or three possessions. We kind of let them put a little
too much distance there. That was a nice thing with this. Michigan game is what he called timeout to the right time and we just we never let them get the game away and then we just kind of pulled it back close. And then when it mattered, we stopped them from doing anything offensively. It's interesting because the two games that you just referred to the Michigan, Game in the Maryland game each of them featured I use opponent on a 13-2 to run that 1:47 run for
Michigan happened. Much earlier in the first half than the Maryland one did and it really felt to some degree like you know in the Maryland game that that run gave Maryland confidence to shoot. You know they ended up for them not having a great shooting game but they put enough distance between themselves and Indiana. Indiana couldn't recover. And honestly Indiana got more even contributions in that game
from a lot of their players. I mean, you know, you had Miller, cop had a decent game efficiency wise and that one race Thompson scored 11 points, Miller cop. But scuse me Trey Galloway was pretty efficient. None of that happened in this game. Instead, what you had was a situation where Michigan kind of squandered, the advantages that they built for themselves in this one and that was unlike Maryland, who I think is
actually legitimately good team. Michigan is really kind of just a collection of talent that when they have everything going, their way can beat you pretty handily. And we've seen that so far this season and that's the type of Team. Frankly, that was able to beat Indiana pretty consistently over the course of the last five or
six years. There's something different with this Indiana team where they can have bad games from a lot of people, but there is an intrinsic level of quality of Of kind of just a it's an intangible as much as it is, a tangible that allows them in these sorts of games. As long as the opponent is not just going nuts, which fortunately Michigan. Wasn't, you know, they can figure out a way to claw back into it and let to me that
sorry. The thing that's changed with this team is, you know, Trace checks. And Davis has taken another step up this season, but also the emergence of jail Hood Cioppino. So, you know, you Have we can rely on Trace, you know, we all know that we can rely on him last year for you know, 80% of what we're getting now. The problem was there was really no one else last year.
You could like consistently rely on Xavier was getting there by the end of the year but no one else is like you stop that and then the team flounders and you're hoping on Roll guys to step it up. The difference here is you saw it in this Michigan game, it's like, all right, when they start, you know, stopping Tracer traces, you know, missing a couple of shots, it's like, all right.
Well, Jalen hoof, you know is now somebody you can also rely on Ion and having two guys that you can kind of rely on to steady the ship in especially in the guard and you know, post positions that's really good in college basketball. I know people you know, you look at like tomorrow baits like some guys, who are young consistence like, all right, well having a team of three guys, you can rely on.
Like now you're you're 22 and what like that's a that's not a team we're going to get to. But if you have two guys that you can consistently rely on and then a bunch of role players who kind of like we'll see if we can rely on them. They are even in the next five or 10 minutes like that. Again, that's a profile of a three or four seed in the
tournament. Like that's a really, really most teams do not have that and to me, that's what I saw as the difference here is like, oh it's like put your fee, no can come down and steady the ship and we know, Trace can. And that, that to me is what is really elevating this team and that's something for hurt. Your fee, know that is happening through this season, that he was not there.
The beginning of the year. So one of the things that I'll know to on all of this right now, Oh is that I think to some degree and we've talked about this a bit on the podcast before when I see fan reaction to some of these games and I think we need to reiterate to people that it is even when you were a good team, it is legitimately hard to win on the road even against teams that aren't as good as you.
And, you know, certainly, I think there is some PTSD that IU fans still have regarding their, you know, the Hoosiers losing games like this, all the time, over the last Several years and I get that and certainly there's a lot of things that you can point to in that Michigan game where you can say, well gosh, they were just didn't play well at all.
But I would note that that's essentially what you see out of almost every team and you saw it yesterday with a bunch of ranked teams who, you know, did not have great days on the road. I mean, Tina, even the teams that I you would consider themselves kind of In conflict with four games, you know, for seeding purposes like you know, the weather, Oh, that was, you know, you had Iowa State losing yesterday. You had Clemson getting blown out on the road yesterday at a
pretty bad UNC team. Yukon lost it at Creighton Rutgers lost at Illinois. After leading for most of the first 30 minutes of the game, they just completely collapsed. It's it's not unheard of to have situations on the road where you're not playing well and there's something about this team where it seems extreme. And yet I use now for And five
on the road this season. So they're playing it at almost 500 clip, which is pretty good in college basketball unless you are a truly Elite type of Team, like an Alabama this year or a Purdue or Houston. You're just not going to win that many road games and to some degree, it really is one of those where you have to grind it out and just have more points than the other team. At the end of the game style points, don't matter, none of that matters. That's really what this one was all about.
Its with the Minnesota game was all about and You look down the stretch, you got three remaining Road games and you know, all three of them, frankly are games that this IU team with the combination of players playing the way that they're playing that you just described could win all three of those remaining
organs. I don't think that they will just because that would be if I you wins all three of their remaining Road games I think you can look at this team and say well something really special maybe going on.
Realistically speaking though, being able to pull even one of the four remaining Road games, that A had out of the Hat coming out of that sequence with Purdue and Rutgers at home is a really, really good sign for this Indiana team because as we've noted on multiple times, before Scott, there are no tournament games that are played in Road venues. So the next time, you know, in your in tournament, you're playing a team, you're not on their home court, they're not on
your home court. And so, they're having as many problems away from home, hopefully, as you are, in this case, I think, you know India, Anna, even though I think a lot of the concerns people had regarding, I, you were certainly founded. There was some dumb plays, particularly down the stretch, statistically speaking, it was about even for both teams, both teams are just kind of in a funk
offensively. I noted a couple of things last night on Twitter. This was a little bit of a statistical Oddity. I mean, Indiana shot really poorly. This was like Maryland level poor shooting not as bad as that game. They only took six three-pointers. The whole game, which believe it or not.
A few as three point attempts, that they've had all season, not the fewest, makes they only made one in that Wisconsin game which they won, because of course they did, and it was the game where they got the fewest offensive rebound. So there was almost no possession stretching throughout the course of the game. And yet what really won the game for them was their defense. And this is the thing, this is
the thing. Archie Miller always said he was building and never did was a defensive culture that could survive a bad offensive game on the road, I mean, this team held Michigan. Into a raw offensive, efficiency, rating of 91.9, which is awesome. It's that is as a raw number. The best that they've done. Since that Wisconsin game, when they held Wisconsin to 71.7, they only allowed Michigan to shoot 25% from three.
Now, I allowed should be in really like big scare quotes there because Michigan did a lot of that themselves but still on you know that's your biggest fear and and especially early on in the game it felt like Michigan was going to hit every three that they took and Indiana. Some Found a situation where they were able to get out play good defense and not allow Michigan to beat them from the
three-point line. It instead was a situation where all right you're going to have to beat us going to pointer for two pointer and ultimately that wasn't enough that to me is the sign of a team that's got some juice. You know that's it. That's a team that you know, okay. Will shut down what we are. Most afraid of let's see if you can actually beat us just going back and forth. Knowing we have traced Jackson Davis and now Jalen Hurd Shafi know. Able to go in and score when we need to.
I want to take a moment here and talk about Trace Jackson Davis. So I feel like we haven't talked about him a lot rightfully. So just because it's like oh he's gonna get, you know, twenty eight and nine or Twenty Eight and eleven.
It's like, all right and and not that I've forgotten how good that is. The couple things I want to say is this that you know, when we talk about having that, you know, leap in, you know, playing ability, it's like everybody goes to Oladipo between his sophomore and Junior. Here is like that's the gold standard when that guy really improved in the offseason, maybe a little bit of OG and an OB and one of those years I think quietly and I'm as guilty as
anybody on this thing. A trace got to hit more threes, like you're saying. All the things he needs to add to his game. The leap Trace has made from last year to this year, is really staggering, but it's and he was already really good last year and that's what to me is so amazing. Is he's added, you know, so much more post moves, the ability to kind of run the offense at
times. Such a good passer, he's bringing the ball up. I'm at the point now where I was telling people yesterday in the morning, like I would love to see him play more Point, Trace like have him honestly you know, take the ball and pass him or he's making great decisions. You saw it last night, it gets hundred Dickinson, a guy who has seemingly gotten to his Hugh Hunters, gotten in the traces head over the years and Trace would get blocked.
And then we'll just come back and come right at in the next possession. And I think it's hard to notice how much better he's gotten because he was so, Would the last three years but Trace really came back with a lot of extra pieces to his game. This year. The other two things I want to mention and then get to a question for you. You talk a little about the
tournament. Obviously, yes, they're played neutral sites games but I was thinking this driving home last night that, you know, the last three games, his numbers have it, you know, it's tough to be like it was numbers or kind of Dipping off because you can get one point. He was hitting offense of efficiencies, like, 137, 150 120. Like you can't keep that up.
All the The time. But the last three games he went for twenty five and seven against Purdue 20 and 18 against Rutgers and twenty eight and 11 against Michigan. And I was thinking, you know, when you think of the tournament who Indiana is going to face my saying, we're gonna win it all. But, like, in three games, he just faced arguably, the best big man on the country and Zack ET arguably, one of the toughest defensive schemes to play in Rutgers.
And Another you know, another seven foot big man, that's been in his head and he put up really good games. I don't think you're going to see three three situations like that back-to-back, times interim, like, I don't know behind EV and Dickinson, maybe Drew Timmy like there's nobody else. In college basketball hoop, prevent who presents those kinds of issues for a trace Jackson Davis and he cut through them doing, like twenty five and twelve, the averaging 25 and 12 against them.
You know, if your Trace you can sit down and back. All right, well, there's there's Not going to be a three-game stretch harder than what I just went through for me, like everything else here is going. I mean, I got to play Purdue again like Michigan State's not easy, but it's like, when I get to the tournament I'm not facing Zack ET three games in a row. I'm not facing hundred Dickinson and so I think that's good.
The thing. Well, let me pause there and I'll get to my question but that's just I want to give some Trace Jackson Davis, Lo look and let you chime in look last year and he was a great offensive player last year. Actually had a miniscule. Larger offensive rating last year versus this year, but last year, in all of Big Ten play including the tournament. So, 23 games, I guess, Trace Jackson Davis had six double digit rebound games, which is
pretty good this year. He's already got 10 and there's still what, you know, with seven games or 60 of those red lines up right? Getting more and more right now. Yeah. Six games left to play in the regular season and then You've got whatever Big Ten tournament games, so that you know, to me what Trace Jackson Davis is a slightly. He's about the same level of efficiency as he was last year. What's really picked up about him and what I find? So remarkable is, how much
better? He is a rebounder and how much more conscientious he is as a passer and really hasn't had a huge increase in turnovers to go along with it. You know, I mean last year he was essentially the Seaver here he's a lot of times acting like the quarterback that normally leads to a lot more turnovers than what you get. And you know, you his turnover rate is, you know, it's in the top 500. Barely in the country as far as
being good. So that that's where I look at Tres Jackson, Davis is contributions and, and it it may not show up as being a lot different in the points per game. But everything else he's doing. He's become such a more complete player and I just that's easy to lose, because In are the way that most people look at statistics, they look at the points and then they kind of stopped at that and rebounds feel kind of arbitrary.
But I do think it's important to point out how abnormally good this statistical season has been for Trace Jackson Davis, and it's what's winning games for Indiana. This is really what is winning them games on the road games at home against Purdue and Rutgers. It's not just that he's scoring in the, the officially like the announcers. Talk about that all the time and understandably. So but it is all of the other things that he does.
To extend possessions to get the ball to the right, persons hands, or the person that's open to make smart decisions most of the time. And, you know, he's he's playing pretty good defense to like, he's not playing great defense. I don't know if you'll ever get great defense out at racetracks and Davis, but you're getting enough and you add that to everything else that he's doing. It really is a remarkable remarkable season so asking you the the basketball encyclopedia
brain, you know, it sucks. It does really Lee seok that like you have, Zach Ed having the season. He's having a semi great for Zach, ET, but like it sucks. That Trace any other years winning Big, Ten Player of the Year, my twin National player of the year he probably isn't going to win it all though. He's starting to like Indiana wins out like this is also a case if the rest of the team you can look around like, hey could we if we went out.
Do we get traced the player of the year and like that's something you could fight for to, as well as again, being something special. But my question to you, You is. When's the last time you saw an IU player just run through the Big Ten and put up these kinds of numbers. Like I was looking at Yogi my initial thought was that Yogi Ferrell and 2016 like DJ white one big, ten Player of the Year in 2008, like Jared Jeffries had a run but I don't remember any
of them. Having these kinds of runs where it's like like last night. It keeps on last night as kind of the game that it sticks to because it's like he had twenty eight and 11 and you know shot 11 423. It's Kind like all he had a, you know, not a great night Like Duty and twenty eight and 11 and played 40, you know, but they
play the whole time. 39, yeah. Played 39 minutes and did basically everything needed to be done and guarded hundred Dickinson, like it. He's having just this unreal stretch, the Big Ten, I'm just wondering and it's going to suck that. You know, when you look back historically it's like, you know, he's not, you know, he didn't win the Big Ten player of the year and he probably shouldn't maybe they'll KO win it, I don't know. But it's my question to you is that who is run that?
Um and yeah, go for it. Oh I mean it's hard to compare what Trace Jackson. Davis is doing right now, because there have been very few Indiana teams that have so had to so consistently rely on one player to do everything. I mean it gets overlooked because the team was so stacked. But Cody Zeller had a really awesome season all year in 2013
and it to some degree. I almost feel like Cody has become underrated in terms that are very fair and it's a A similar thing where it's just like you expected. Cody, Zeller to go out and see more like 18 and grabbed eight or nine rebounds. There's like that's just what Cody's doing and it was Who's Gonna Fill in around. But, you know, I look at it like this on the MVP thing, Sometimes you're just unlucky until, you know, it's, you can go back and look at the history of like Indiana, mr.
Basketballs. And you can find a bunch of guys who won mr. Basketball, who were not the best player in the state, or maybe didn't even have the, you know, the most impressive statistical season if you looked at it through one lens. But because most people look at it through a different lens, they're like, well that's you got to give it to the guy. Who's the most efficient score in college basketball. It's like on the one hand.
You you don't want to, you don't want to punish Trace Jackson, Davis. But you also don't want to punish Zack Edie. Yes, Zack Edie is 74. But as I keep trying to remind people, we've still got a basket. We've seen lots of guys who were 72 73, 74 and most of them are not scoring at almost, you know? They're, I mean, they're not shooting 63% from the field, they're not only turning the ball over on 15% of possessions, they're not leading the country in offensive, rebounding and
Bowl played college basketball. So you know as much Chaz, I want Trace Jackson Davis to pick up some silverware this year. I have a hard time saying, well, I think it's clear to me that with through the, the assists and just the overall way that Trace Jackson Davis is is playing. He is more versatile than exact ET pezzini is so efficient at what he does, you can't really begrudge him the successes. And so, I look, I think a lot will depend on what Down the
stretch. I mean, the one question for me on Purdue. As you know, you look at what happened. I mean, they came back and they smashed Iowa. Last week. I think a lot of Zach ETS campaign is going to depend on. How does Purdue finish if /? Do you know if they go forward to the rest of the way? And they finished 16 and 4 in the conference, which is what they're projected to do, you know, that's that's pretty impressive.
If you look at individual games on can Palm, then are projected to lose any of the six remaining games that they've got. So, you mean, you could look at To 17 and 3 or 18 and to team, I think at that point. Yeah, Zach he's going to be Big Ten Player of the Year Zack. He's probably going to be a national player of the year because this Purdue team was not expected to do anywhere close to what they're doing this year.
So that's where the rub wise, unfortunately, for IU, is that I just don't know if there's a route right now and it's a shame because I, you know, this will go down. Historically I think is one of those Seasons where you look at. You look at the Top Line. CED winning MVP.
Your kind of forget what happened outside of that, because that's the nature of things and yet, realistically, when you go in, and look at the numbers, someone's going to be, like, I don't, I can't believe this this season the trace Jackson Davis had, I mean, you're talking. This is like, you know, it's like, you know, any time you had a great player in the Big Ten that was just slightly superseded by another great play. It's happened a couple times with IU.
It sky mean it's probably how. Well, it's probably a like Chris Webber Felton. In 1993, you know, where he has this, you know, really remarkable statistical season, but Calbert cheaney sets the Big Ten scoring record and ends up winning National player of the year.
I mean, sometimes it happens and there's not a lot you can do about it, but tip your cap and say, well gosh, it was just the fates of the times, it'd be a fun experiment to go back and look and see like what years Trace Jackson Davis would have won that Big Ten Player of the Year and like is there any year where maybe he would have also run into this? The two things I'll say with the Ed thing is that on one hand, it
also sucks. He's like the exact same position, because, at least if he was a guard, you can be like, all right, well, least it in the National level. They'll break up all the awards and like, you know, who hit when player the year, but like it's like, you know, all the big posts, you know, all the awards were probably gonna go Jackson Davis, could end up with nothing because he's like plays. The same position on the flip side. It does show how special those Indiana Purdue games.
Are like it's, it's also mind-boggling to think. You have the two best players in the country. Both playing the same position. Mission both in the same conference at each other's rival and we get to see them. Not only played the teams to get. Like, we can just see 38 minutes where they're guarding each other and they're playing each other and to your point. I'll just end on this. I do think there is a narrative path for Indiana to help. Trace Jackson.
Davis get the player of the year in the Big Ten Player of the Year and that this is not easy. I'm not saying they're going to do this, not saying they have to do is not saying it's even something. They like if they beat In West Lafayette. And then if they meet again in the Big Ten tournament and they beat Purdue again.
And Trace Jackson, Davis has similar games, not saying, again not saying have to going to, but it's like, then you do really have a narrative where it's like, all right, man. Ed puts up all these numbers, but they've met three times and Jackson Davis has that team has won every single time.
And then, I do think there's a real narrative case that could get him, the Big Ten player of the year, but again that's really hard to do. We're getting ahead of ourselves Alright. That's but just that would be well, the path you go down but that's you're asking a lot and well I'm not sure you even need to do that. I've heard it. Do you mentioned it earlier? If heard the talk about? Well what if they what are they were Co Big 10 players of the Year, believe it or not, that's
only happened. Three times in the history of the award and I you players have been part of two of those instances. The first time it happened was 1989 when it was Co players of the year with Glen Rice at Michigan. Who set the all-time Big Ten scoring record that your and J Edwards. Who Had that insane string of shots that he hit the help Indiana. When the Big Ten title it happened in 1999 when Mateen Cleaves and scoonie pain. There's a name for your blast from the past and up winning.
Go Big Ten Player of the Year and that it happened again. The next year with AJ Guyton from Indiana and Morris Peterson. And you know it's that to me that's kind of a similar Dynamic right now. It's like Michigan. State was the better team in terms of like what? What they were doing on the court and AJ gaytan was offensively, what made that?
Indiana, teamwork. And so you know I think you hit the nail on the head though it's almost easier in a lot of cases to justify co-players of the year. If the players are very different position wise here, it's like, well, who is the better Center? Even though I look at Trace Jackson, Davis, a look exact ET and it's like, well they're they technically play the same position but they're like, 7 inches apart. And they, you know, Trace Jackson Davis is definition of
what he's doing. In his position is entirely different from what Zach 80s doing. They're both effective. I just I would be surprised mostly because the people that vote on these things tend to be so obsessed. In a murdered with, you know,
how easy does that player? Make it look and that is essentially what Zaki does and that's probably going to lead to him winning player the year and look, well, well received on that front but just It for Trace Jackson Davis, that that ends up being the year that he has this kind of a breakout season. Yeah, last question, this was going to be an after pod question when I asked it now because you are my resident historian, I'm looking at it. Now I don't know the answer to
this. Why is the Big Ten Player of the Year first given out and 8485? Why do they not give it out before that? I mean that's a great question and I don't entirely know. I will say that you know a lot of these scuse me. Sorry that's a that's a very I recently. Well you got to keep in mind that a lot of what we think has been around. Forever hasn't been around forever. It's like the NCAA tournament up until the mid 70s. Only took one team from each conference that there were not
at-large bids. So, you know, the even the idea of a top-25 has only really been around for about the last 35 years. I mean, there was a top 20, but there wasn't a top-25 until you started. To get into the bowl Coalition era in the early 90s. And so I think a lot of it is like in the 80s when this really became a business and and there, you know, conferences wanted to Market their teams and their players and they realized that there was some valid the validity of that, that's when
that really got going. And, you know, it's like the makes for a great trivia question. Like I would have been a hundred percent wrong on this. Like who's the first Big Ten Player of the Year from Indiana? What's like the Naismith award only goes? Bachelor pay Edwards, you be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. The Naismith award only goes back to 1969 and it's like, what you'd have thought that had been
around for a while? It has a. So that's why I think ultimately all of these conferences, the 80s, transformed what they were doing. And so that is where we're at with this and it is interesting. How you can probably retroactively go back and figure out who the perspective player of the year would have been, but it does matter. I think that you know at least now we've got almost a 40 year. Sample size of Players of the
year. It is kind of odd that they weren't doing it before then though, go. Alright, let's off that. It would be fats, a fun podcast, we go back and retroactively, do they'll 40 years previous of big 10 players the year. So, As Indiana looks forward. You know, I think what's interesting about where they're at right now that win was very important in that. Now they are alone in second place in the Big Ten.
They're you know, they're a solid three games behind Purdue and it really is hard to Envision Purdue being caught, but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility there, you know, I you will almost certainly end of the weekend and sole possession of second place and less Northwestern pulls the upset. At home against Purdue, which is
entirely possible. Like it's, you know, but I mean people forget that Purdue team was in overtime at Nebraska earlier this year and has struggled in certain Road games. But I would, you know, I mean it's it's one of those things where if Purdue loses that game they're 12 and 6 Indiana's 9 and 5 now it's like hmm. Well the you got up you get to play Purdue again and now suddenly if you win that now you're within a game and a half of a breeze, right?
12 and 3. Yeah, that's are 12 and 3 Yeah. But you know realism, yeah, it's produced got to lose to and we got to beat them, but the rest, but I am. But the flip side is if Purdue goes ahead and wins and there are 13 and 2 and Northwestern losses and there at 8 and 6. This is where it gets interesting because then you get to play Northwestern next. If Indiana is able to go into Evanston, has not been easy for them or many other teams and win
that game. Now, you're ten and five in conference and you've really put some separation between yourself. And one of the team's, that's chasing you for a double. I, you know, the schedule for the other team starts to come into play here because, you know, Maryland's, next game is at home versus Purdue Rutgers is leaking licking their wounds a bit. They really had a struggle on the road and Rutgers is only one
two Road games all year. This is something that people aren't aware, of like Rutgers has not been good away from the the New York Metroplex. Illinois has to go to Penn State and we know you think that Illinois would just go in and win that game. But the way Penn State's been playing, who knows? I mean, you Could get a game where they hit 33s and they end up winning the game.
So, this is, you know, this sequence right here is where Indiana gets Northwestern on the road, they get Illinois at home. That's their next two games. You know, we talked a lot about these little sequences of games. A couple of weeks ago, we were talking about this home sequence against Purdue and Rutgers and it's like gosh, could they win one of those? Could they win both? What if they lose both then? It was like, well, there's this two-game, road sequence.
Next at Michigan at Northwestern. Can they win one of the two you've won? One of the two? Can win that second and then come back home and take care of business against Illinois. Now you've really separated yourself, you're an 11 and 5 in the conference and that's we're going back to what you said at the beginning. It becomes less important you know, to win those remaining games. But the flip side is you're getting more confident in your
ability to win those games. And this is, this is almost the exact inverse right now, for Indiana of what we saw in, you know, in Archie's first. Season certainly in Archie, second season, even last season and Archie's career will be well. But also last year in Mike Woodson's first year like this team would lose a game and then
they lose another game. And then it was just this like doubt long downward spiral of crisis of confidence, and it would take them to three weeks to get back on their feet. And I almost feel like what we saw yesterday was the result of a team going the opposite direction, where it's like, yeah, well we've won seven of eight and If we're not playing well, we feel like we can actually get ourselves together and figure out a way to win this game tonight.
And so that's where you'd want to be Indiana in this case because Indiana has momentum going for it now. It's not one of those things. That is something I'd go and you know, bet the bank on and I certainly think that they're going to lose at least a couple of the six games that they've got remaining in the regular season. But the everything's rolling in the good direction for Why you when you consider that, they didn't even have race Thompson
in that game. Yesterday, they only played seven players, they somehow figured out a way to make it work, that's a good sign and that really bodes. Well from my perspective, in terms of a team with that kind of mentality is very, very difficult to play against.
And while you're right, this Indiana team will be a scalp for everybody remaining on the schedule and as tough as the schedules been, it actually lays out in a way where they're going to be able to put the right kind of distance between Themselves on the team is behind them. If they are able to go out and win on a regular basis, if we win one of our next to I know you're thinking a little higher aspirations, I just want to get very realistic about some real aspirations.
Be one of the next two. We guarantee us a 500 record in the Big Ten, we win Northwestern Illinois. We guarantee a above 500 record in the Big Ten, which again it's you know, that's not what we're shooting for here. But we haven't made that shot in quite a number of years so it is nice. To be able to say before March, we've solidified a, you know, guaranteed a above 500 records milk and that's good. But no, you mention about Vibes and kind of the feel the team, I completely agree.
And while it sucks, you know, I one of my really good friends on the street, here is a Michigan State fan to keep them looking at their schedule and like, oh, they have, you know, on Earth, Western at home and now they're playing, you know, Wisconsin. It's our Minnesota. It's like everybody else seems to have these. Just like, I look around the big Ten's and everyone sees you playing Minnesota are every other game. It's like we have the toughest
schedule that said. I love how it breaks for us, because I do think that, as Road games, go Northwestern while not easy is the easier, you know, that's easier than a Michigan State, or Purdue. I like that matchup Northwestern Illinois. And like I said, I'm nervous about going to East Lansing, going to West Lafayette, but I like that, it then rolls up with two home games after that. So you kind of can To your point, you can win the next to
you. Could you lose Michigan State and Purdue by, you know, 10 15 points? Each you can come back, lick your wounds, kind of reset. And now get ready for the push of March. It's much better to have it that way than reverse it. Where you'd have Iowa Michigan at home and then you go into the Big Ten tournament on two straight losses. Maybe you then have a crisis of confidence and I know it's been mentioned a bunch of times but you know you at some point here
we're getting really close. I think you're going to see Xavier Johnson. Coming back and that's an all Big Ten player. He's not going to come in at a hundred percent. But with the way we're playing in the way that he plays the way he shoots, he could, like I've said before, he could be a spot up to like I think there are ways to we've him in that are going to be helpful. I think race is going to continue to get better. I think you look at like, Jordan Geronimo, he's going to continue
to get healthier. You know, that's the other positive. This team has, is there playing with confidence, the kind of playing with house money, so to speak. And they have a lot of pieces. That are going to be coming back and or should be getting healthier moving forward. The only concern you have is right now to get through that to you get to that point where the
guys are healthy. You're putting some serious load Management on guys like Trace Jackson Davis and Jalen Channel, hit Ruffino. You know the last couple of games. You know, when you look at the number of minutes for Trace its 40 39, 39 38, 33, 39 39 3533 it's is one of those things. Where it's like you mentioned it but it's also like you got to do it. Like I don't know what else you do?
You got to play them and you're at a point where you hope, you know, he's 22, 23 years old, you have basically another, you know, six weeks of hard basketball and it's like we're just going to kind of run this and hope we don't hit e on the tank before we get to, you know, whatever our end of the season, is it would be nice to have some easy games that you could sit racetracks and Davis town in or so to be nice at home right here. Look at all of that, right?
But I mean, Look, that's, it's not likely to happen and you do have, I mean, Trace Jackson Davis while he was injured. I mean, being able to not play for three of the game so far. This year does take a little bit of mileage off. The odometer that would be there. Otherwise, I do think that what you're saying though, brings up a point that's worth mentioning, which is that I you like it,
what's going to separate? I, you, they do from a great season in, in 0, is going to be can trace Jackson. Davis is teammates. It's come in and do things and take over games. I do think Xavier Johnson's a big piece on that, because that's really, you think about this team, like the ability that what we saw at the very
beginning of the year. What God has so excited was traced Jackson Davis playing at this level, Jalen Hurd, Shafi know, being able to play in an off the ball roll, get the ball and do things, and Xavier Johnson acting as a primary ball-handler. Like, that was really hard to stop for a lot of different teams that we saw Xavier had a hard time with North Carolina had a hard time with it, then we
race. Good, never saw that again because then Jalen Hurd, Ruffino got injured, then Trace Jackson, Davis, got injured, then Xavier Johnson got injured. I don't know if we'll get a full strength, save your Johnson back. You know what's nice about this stretch is that Jalen Hurd Ruffino is coming to his own so much, and Trace Jackson Davis has been so steady that even when Jalen Hurd chiffino's having a bad shooting day.
He's normally able to contribute now at least in some way and that's different from What it was even like a month and a half ago? Yeah, with this team though they really have to have someone else step up and maybe it's not the same person every game. But somebody you know I think Miller cop deserves a lot of credit. He's really raised his defensive game significantly from what it was a month ago. He played jet Howard last night and I think Jan Howard. Hey what like 12 or 13 times
only thing. That's a tooth of 248 from three and that's that's still a cop is probably not going to play a lot of time in the NBA jet Howard. And Miller played him amazingly well and I'll say this sorry I'm just jumping on Miller cop like what he's able to do that. That is a very nice skill.
Is, he's able to stay locked in. He's a three-point shooter and as we've said many times, they don't want a ton of sets for him but, you know, he's getting better now just shooting and not pump faking, but I got to give him credit on this. He's fantastic at he'll go seven, eight, nine minutes without really touching the ball offensively but he stays locked in defensively and at bat it's a skill.
You see a lot of guys like tomorrow bait Strega like they have issued troubles sometimes staying you know they get they don't play well all offensively, it seeped in their defense if you don't see that with cop at all it's very much. That's a fifth-year adult in the room where it's like I can be a professional at this level and I can do what needs to be done even though they're not running a lot.
For me offensive, I could still say locked in defensively and I've been very impressed, see that no more. So in the last night against a guy, like, Howard, ya know, it's, it's a good point and it's one of those things. Our Miller cop. That's the probably the quietest part of his game. It's gotten better over the course of time and I do think he deserves a lot of credit for my larger point is you have to have offensive contribution, it's not
just defense. Like it feels really with maybe one or two quasi exceptions everybody's bought in and really into it defensively. Now, they didn't start the game like that, but they finished the game like that last night. I think that, that really is one of the key differences and there's a couple of guys who I just don't Think they just don't know where they're supposed to be defensively and that's
created some problems. But offensively this team, the difference between this team like making a Deep Run in the Big Ten tournament or NCAA tournament and just like you know, winning a game is when they go through these offensive stretches where they can't score having somebody be able to step up and put some points on the board and you know where they've
been successful. In this last night's game was kind of unique in this regard where they you know they didn't get That essentially, in last night's game, they got 28 out of tjd, they got 21 out of hood. Should be no they got four points out of the next leading scorer. Like that's probably not going to get it done.
But you look at the Rutgers game, you know, they got they got 18 out of cop and and Jalen Trevino didn't put up a whole lot of shots but he that wasn't really part of the game that game and he still scored seven which was, which was decent in the Purdue game, they get eleven out of tray Galloway. You know, and you can go back and look at most of the winds that Indiana has had in this stretch tomorrow Bates, you know, as popped up and done things on occasion.
Malik renew had 15 again that Ohio State game. So it doesn't have to be the same person every game. I think it's probably unrealistic to think that it will be, but this is where if you could get a full string, Xavier Johnson, or even an 80 percent strength, Xavier drown, some back, he has the ability to be that third scorer and he opens up somebody else to be that third score. If it's not him on that day because he can get them the ball. Because right now is, you know,
Jane Lynch your fee. Know you might want to criticize him for this or that, but he's having to be both a scorer and a distributor, and essentially traced Jackson Davis is having to do the same thing. So it's like, let's take some burden off the guys, and that's where I think, especially on the road that this, where it's tougher.
Indiana, because it almost has to be either tray, Galloway, or Miller cop because Malik renew, you know, as well as well as he played in. The previous two games, looked completely out of sorts for most of yesterday's game tomorrow. Bates. Look completely out of sorts for the game and and you know woods and said afterwards that he didn't even play Kayla Banks or CJ gun because he didn't want to
put the pressure on them. That was existing in a game like yesterday, which is probably pretty smart. You can definitely say it's markers. They won the game. You know, men might not have looked as smart if they lost, but I understand the mentality there, but they've got to get more. Justin see across the board, that's really the difference,
right? That's what produce able to do like when produce having an off night from ET, you know, someone's able to step up and score a bunch of points in his stead, can Indiana get over that. Hump between now and the time that the tournament starts, that's to me. One of the big remaining questions about this team, just sit with one final moment and this Michigan game, because we went through so many of these in the Archie Era, Michigan fans have got to be just kicking
themselves. They look at the stat line. It's like that. You know, not only did, you know, the second third leading scorer, had four points like of takeout, Jackson, Davis and hoods Ruffino. Everybody else who played for IU total, 12 shot attempts. Yeah like you know each again tomorrow Bates had five of those you take him out like everybody else only had you know six other are sorry math. My head seven other attempts.
Like it's it's mind-boggling. How to guys just beat that you mentioned, like they got to be Shooters and Distributors they're basically Shooters our Distributors to each other. Like it's You look at this game, you look at the stat line. You look at the numbers, like Michigan fans have got to be kicking themselves, like, damn, but we needed a win. This one of the great win. It was sitting there.
How do we let Indiana beat us? Like it just we've been sitting in that spot so many times, it's fun on a Sunday morning in February to be in the reverse side. So just take a moment and bask in that Glory but I'm with you though, these kinds of games and those kinds of stats are not, those are not going to be what you can consistently do to win games and late February and Early March, but we're in a great spot and we are. I love the way you say it.
The very elusive double by like we are so close to tasting that double by and look again it's one of those where there's a double by Banner go, it's a good quote, maybe it may be in the lobby actually that might be the best spot for it. It at all, I'll say this like Indiana, there was the stats have changed a little bit but Indiana has Bottom four teams of the bottom five teams in the conference.
They will play once this season. They're going to play if they're playing Minnesota. Once they're going to play Ohio State once they're going to play Nebraska, once they're going to play Penn State once, and they're going to play Wisconsin. Once that's the bottom. Five teams Indiana's going to play each of them one time this season and, and you go down the
rest of the way. You know, they've got another game against Michigan State. They've got another game against Michigan. They got another game against Iowa, they got another game against Northwestern against Illinois against Purdue. So it is the Hard Road and it's why, you know, it's just the way that sorry, this just in we're
playing Alabama, right? In Alabama they got added to the Big Ten this for a while and play off and Houston, but for fun but the, you know, the way that it breaks is the way that it breaks. And certainly I think people thought, Ohio, State and Wisconsin, we're going to be better this year and people probably thought that Maryland and Northwestern. We're going to be worse. And so, that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
But if Indiana can pull a double by off at the against this sketch, That to me is incredibly impressive and that bodes. Well for this team's ability to do some things in March Beyond. Just make it to the NCAA tournament and so we'll see what
happens. I mean look as we've talked about now for almost a month, you could be the second best team in the conference in terms of quality and end up with a sixth or seventh seed simply because you end up in a five-way tie and someone else got to play, you know, Minnesota twice and you only got to play them once like that. That's that's kind of the level of things that you're at right now, so we'll see what happens with all that.
Anyway, let's wrap up any final. Thoughts from you before we move on and finish things off here. No, I think you hit it on the head, like, it is. This is where I think it's very important. We can keep that space out of that morass below us of just teams the middle because I don't want us to be, you know, dependent on buys. Sorry dependent on tiebreaks to figure out where we are in the Big Ten Tournament because Like we mentioned, you're going to
have to ride Jalen hitch, a fee. No and Jackson Davis through most of the rest of this. And so that's where not just for who you play. And we'll getting that double by in the Big Ten Tournament is key. Just from a rest perspective. You know, we saw it last year where you know the NCAA did us. No favors but by the time you get to that st. Mary's game.
That was just a scheduled loss but it's you can't we put ourselves in that position to have to play that many games and to get jacked around by the tournament. You know, if you get to a double by and you know what, Wait,
timeout. You say all this, but I would like to remind you that last year, four teams had the double by three of them lost their first game in the Big Ten Tournament. So, just just, uh, because Illinois, lost Indiana, obviously Rutgers loss to Iowa, Wisconsin lost to Michigan State. The only team that one that had the double by was Purdue and even they struggled against the Penn State team that wasn't particularly good. So you know, it's three to four
rest more than I agree. I would not, I would love it. And it's like a status Because you get the double by and particularly for Indiana who at that point will be at like 21, 22 wins. It's like, wow, that's a clearly. Not just a tournament team, but that's a team that could compete for a protected seed and that's going to be the big question mark. That's the last thing I wanted to hit on. Before we wrap up, I haven't done Bracketology yet today. Yeah, and I was going to lead you to that.
Just real quick. Go ahead has I'm listening to you on the way up to Fort Wayne yesterday. Talking about Bracketology you do a people in listen to it. Go back. And listen to the last pot, it's a solo Gala, but you do a great job of kind of laying it out, and it's funny cause I'm driving back, listening to assembly
call. And one of the the chat mob is like, well as this moves up a seed line and you don't Satya coach tons on. He's like talking about it, but it's like, you brought it up perfectly. It's like these things are not in a vacuum and suck one win. You can't just move up a line because other teams have to move down to luckily those teams are losing right. Um, but yeah. It's, I mean, you know, we're in an odd spot where it's like, I think at best case, we can get a
three. But I think we're going to start building a case for a four seed pretty quickly if we win the next to. Ya know. I mean certainly look that this is where like a loss last night wasn't gonna hurt Indiana. I mean, it's a road game. It's a tier 1 game. Even if you don't look at Michigan and say, clearly tier one team but they are, I mean Iowa state who's I think direct competition for Indiana right
now. For a four seed though, they've got seven Tier 1 wins but one of them is at Oklahoma, they are these 7015. Mmmmmm in the net, which means if they drop one spot, that's no longer a tier 1 win. So I hate the tier system. I think it's really stupid and arbitrary in a lot of ways, but Indiana, like they've got everything that you would want in a four seed but it's not in a
vacuum. And I look at it like this and I haven't done the update today, so maybe my thoughts will change, but you look above them and You've got essentially from the middle of the three line down to where Indiana's at its Gonzaga Xavier Marquette, Kansas State Yukon, Iowa State, and Indiana, and it's easy to, you know, I hate the stupid simplistic logic that a lot of basketball color commentators, like Bill Walton last night where, you know, it's like we
will Pro do loses an Indiana. Nothing happens to them. And it's like that. Yes, that's right. Because you're allowed, this isn't like believe it or not and the the tournament. This hen seed, the tournament selection process is much in more intelligent than the poles. Because the poles are like, oh, you lost, you have to drop even if you lost to a team that you should have lost to. It's the stupid. It's, you know, watching the
poles. Cause I have a couple of friends of mine that vote in the polls watching their votes and talking with them about it and watching the stupid reactionary bullshit that you see out of a lot of Voters for games, stripped completely of Text is just it's just it's mind-boggling to me that we're still treating things like that.
We're still acting like we're getting scores by telegram, you know, or sent To Us by like, you know, Western Union or something like that or Pony Express, it's like oh wow though the number-one team lost on the road to a top, 20 team. I must drop them in my whole voting. No, you know, it's so you anyway rant on that aside. You looking at you look at Indiana and yes that was a A nice win. It was a road win. That's very important. I don't know that Marquette.
Kansas State Yukon, Iowa State. I don't know that what they've done, might, you know, is necessarily going to drop them below. Indiana. The one team that I have to look at him and I'll just do it right
now. Since we're on the one team, I think you can make a justification for moving, Indiana above right now, might be Kansas State, you know, they they lost that they had yesterday was not a good one, they lost at Texas Tech but that's still a it's still a tier 1 loss and a lot of it just Depends on. Are you going to weigh the resume heavily? Because if that's the case, just looking at net rankings, Kansas State's going to rank ahead of Indiana because the Big 12 like
eight of their nine. Other top 10 teams actually all 10 I think are in the top 75 of the net. Where is Indiana? You know while they played a lot of really good teams they don't have quite that level of competition, those numbers kind of add up mathematically over time and it just comes becomes hard for Big Ten team, any big 10 team, Indiana Illinois Rutgers to overcome the statistical advantage. That the Big 12 teams are going to have this year as well as the Big East teams.
I mean Yukon, even though they're not playing very well right now. If you look at them straight from a numbers perspective, they still look like a top 10 team because they built such a huge efficiency margin in the first part of the season and that's what the computer see. So this is going to be interesting. I you is going to be one of those teams that for, once in our programs, We might benefit from the eye test as opposed to
being punished by the eye test. So that'll be kind of a curious
thing to watch moving forward. But certainly, I think a for is well, on the cards, what I would tell everybody to do is next Sunday. So what is that, the 19th, the NCAA selection committee, chairman always comes on CBS during that weekend and gives the update on here, are the top four seeds in each region and that is about, The first and sometimes the only window that we really get into what the committee is preferring in a given year because it's not
always the same thing. It's not always what we're going to prefer you know better you do better predictive squad one wins Road wins, whatever. So you really get a sense there, this is what they're thinking and you can normally figure out from that point. What kind of a chance you've got to get a certain seat. So like everything you see every bracket that's being produced right now is essentially
educated guesses. Has based upon what the committee has done which doesn't necessarily mean that that's what the committee's going to do. And we really don't know until that update what the committee is likely going to do. All that said, I think Indiana right now is probably either the first five or the last four. I will let you know when I put the bracket together. Sometime later on today. Sounds good. All right, that'll wrap it up for us, folks. We will be back later on in the week.
Indiana, with an unrelenting schedule. As everybody has in the Big Ten right now, I can hear unrelenting tip times again. Now, we got a 9:00 p.m. Wednesday. Like let's say they should just go all out and be like, hey, we're starting at 87 8:47. Give us give us weird tip times the rest of your gonna be weird. Be weird. It's do it. And it's gonna get really weird. That's going to be a fascinating
game. Indiana plays at Northwestern that will be Wednesday, February 15th, and so that'll be into Thursday February 16th, maybe. Well, right? Yeah, so if you're in the Chicago area you may want to get out to that game. The get in price for that game is $110. These are these are profit-taking times in Evanston Illinois.
As far as the basketball, Teams can see specially when you consider that for Alabama, Tennessee, a top-10 at least as of today match up the get in price for Thompson-Boling Arena
is $15. So there you go, the getting dry I would say the get in price for the rest of the year for Indiana might be over a hundred because the Illinois game is going to be over 100 right now, the get it at Michigan State, the be over 100, I mean at Purdue is going to be over 500 and then the getting program games the get in price right now.
For Indiana, Illinois is $209. Dollars a ticket and the get in price is not nearly as high right now for X. If you want to go up to East Lansing on next Tuesday, not necessary as the Tuesday after the 21st. It's seven dollars to get in the arena, so I think yeah, I don't know. Sparty fans are kind of down on their team this year so we'll see what happens. But anyway, I you plays Wednesday will probably be back Thursday or Friday to talk about what happened in that game.
Be sure to come back for the, women's basketball podcast, with a man to Foster the women with that. Tremendous week this past week. They knock off Iowa in the big Ten's first top five matchup since the 90s and there's going to be more women's basketball coming up here in short order.
You know, this this women's team is just kind of at a different level right now and they're going to have to stay at that level because on the 13th, they traveled to Ohio State to take on the Buckeyes. They beat Ohio State pretty soundly a couple of weeks ago. Now we got to go on the road for that. Just some some really fascinating Games coming up here for the women's teams to keep an eye on that anyway. That'll wrap it up for us, we'll catch you folks on the flip side.
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