You're listening to the back home network presented by home field apparel welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and clavius got Caulfield joining. You it is the 20th of November and we have a rarity an IU football Victory, even more of a rarity of Erode conference. I you football Victory to talk about on this November in November. I know it's like, there's like an eclipse on top of an eclipse eclipsed by another eclipse now, it's Halley's Comet it, basically? Yes, I'm Galen, he's Scott.
Good to be talking to you folks. Once again, we're gonna recap what happened yesterday. In one of the more improbable games that we've seen. I, you play in this generation, I would say, I mean, really, Going back to the probably the beginning of the 2000s, Indiana pulls off, something that they frankly I haven't done in a long time on a number of levels. So we're going to talk about that and talk about what it means. So we'll get to that in just a
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Traveling is done. It was a fun. I watched most of The game on my phone at the Dallas, Love Airport. And then I listened to your preview pod afterwards. So I'll quote you back. Are you shocked? If you said you'd be shocked, I am shocked. I know I really am and and I know you would be just what he and you know, I'm shocked not just that Indiana one because there's a historical element.
I you football that we have to kind of set aside from the momentary things that we talked about with this program and you and I Been fans for a long time. There's a lot of other people who would fans for a long time. And I think, when you've been fans of a program like Indiana for as long as we have, you start to see these long tail Trends and how Indiana actually normally performs in these situations. And this game was in the macro very unusual for reasons that
we'll get to in a minute. But it was also very unusual, just looking at the statute, like, I've shown five or six people who saw the score and we're like, hey, are you one? I'm like, go call. All up the box score and look at it and then tell me who you think won the game and they've all come back with a classic. Wait, what? As a response? And so this was even unusual within the confines of this time and space. And so, yeah, I am fair to say, just this kind of Victories not
replicatable, it's really not. And, you know, I mean it's one of those things where it's not a bad thing. It's just, yeah, that's that like two attempts for make seven attempts for to completions and 31 yards for quarterback.
Yeah, and you're down what 17 points doesn't normally that's not normally a recipe, like just it's a bizarre game, it really is, still win laughing sorry, cut you off but like my high-level take away like I'm watching the game in the airport I'm thinking to myself like if we lose. Because as you said as an IU fan of just I'm expecting us to lose this game, you know, with the field goal.
Then we block it, it's a cloud. And then, you know, we go to overtime and then there's like, all right, we're going to lose over to. I just I you think it every Step of the way, we're going to find a way to lose because, you know, history proves me right in that normally, I'm thinking to myself that, you know, we're past the point where we can just say, oh, you know, that was really close a close loss to Michigan State
on the road. Like, that's good enough, like I'm thinking to myself that you a loss is not acceptable, right? No matter how and then but you know, they win because I'm like, you know, you can't justify well, you know, we're past kind of the close loss game but you know, on the flip side, you got to be honest. Like a win is a win. Yeah, you have to give it to this. They found a way to win. Like it wasn't pretty, it's not replicated again, obvious replicatable.
I'm not, there's a lot of still concerns with the wind, but it's a win. And, and that is that's a good thing. This program and everything around it really, really need of this. Yeah. No, I mean this was one of those victories that I think so. I will say this, I think that there's still a lot of problems with the program.
There's still a lot of problems with this team, but you can acknowledge those things and still Will full-throated Lee, enjoy beating a not terrible, Big Ten team on the road beating Michigan State on the road. This is actually, if you go back through the entire history of Indiana, Michigan state. That was only the seventh time Indiana's ever won in East Lansing period, seven times total.
And thus, it's a series that goes back to 1924, although Michigan State really didn't start playing full-time. The Big 10 till 1950, still you're talking about almost 75 years. To only win seven times the big deal and it's the first non covid win in Michigan State since 2001. And that even in, and of itself was kind of a unicorn, sort of Victory and we've talked a lot about how Indiana football historically.
As a program has tended to be bereft of the kind of Lucky victories or wow, where did that come from? Sort of winds that it feels like other programs. Get on the rag. This is one of Of those wins. And like you said, it's not really replicatable, but I do want to tip my cap to the coaching staff, to Tom Allen to Walt Bell in particular, because they clearly saw something in the film, in this game, where they said to themselves.
Well, if we can do things on the ground, consistently, we might have just enough in run blocking to open up some lanes because Michigan State doesn't seem to be defending that well and it paid off. I mean, we've talked about how putrid the Russian game has been So far this year Indiana, it finishes this game with a 5.8 yards per carry average, 257 Touch of student. 52 287 yards four touchdowns Sean chivers with a 79-yard run, Dexter Williams with a 34 yard run both
of those four touchdowns. You know, they figured out ways when they needed to to make plays and what I guess the weirdest thing for me, Scott and the thing I still can't get my head around. Is this game was 24/7 at halftime? I'm and it looked absolutely like Indiana was adrift. It looked absolutely like we'd seen in the Penn State game and the Ohio State game where Michigan state was clearly, the superior team.
It was almost like they were bored playing against I you and you know, Indiana comes out, they force a three and out. They get that touchdown, you know, from chivers and then another three and out Indiana gets a three and out but then Michigan state gets a touchdown and you're Well now it's what 31:14 and you're already halfway through the third quarter at that point. It's like well, okay, that's the that's the dagger. Like that's where everything
goes awry and normally. That's where Indiana stops and somehow. Indiana managed to figure out a way back into the game. You know, it's just fascinating like, how they got themselves back in it and even with all of that, they needed a missed field goal from 19 yards out as time
expired, you know, too? To put themselves in a position where they could actually get it to overtime and win and they needed Michigan State to get a field goal blocked in the overtime to, I mean, it was like, there was so many things that had to happen, but this is kind of like where the lotto ticket numbers actually line up in your favor for the first time. So, I'm certainly not throwing
it back. But again, credit to the coaching staff, particularly on offense because the offense did find a way special teams found a way to contribute at least in the return game. A couple of great returns by Jaylon Lucas, including that, it wasn't wasn't an interception, it was the kickoff return for a touchdown.
They've got it listed wrong in the, in the box score and that's the kind of contributions that Indiana has desperately needed that they haven't gotten over the course of most of this season and most of last season and it's just really cool to see it back again. And I don't think it's it may not be sustainable, it may not have been a one may just be a one-time thing but you know, it is interesting because you look
at some of the postgame. Comments from the players and they're like, well, now we realize that we can be in the game no matter how far we're out of it. I would question why they needed this to prove that to ourselves but it's nice. If that's, if that's the light bulb going off, then suddenly it's like well you know, if this team decides, you know what, we're not going to put the ball in the air, we're going to run kind of a quasi option attack.
We're going to leverage our best athletes in special teams. Yes, we can we can recriminate a bit and say, well gosh, why didn't you figure that out earlier? But if And figure that out and beat Purdue after beating Michigan State. And I think that's entirely on the table at this point, then that's that's at least progress and that's all we've been asking for throughout the course of the
season. It's just like, like if you can do things, stop banging your head against the wall of the things that you can't do. And that's really, I think, probably the thing I took away from this game, the most was that they finally, like started taking a path of lesser resistance and hey, it turned out that it worked out for them in the end. One thing doesn't built.
Bill Connolly has a stat again. He can't find it on ESPN because they don't, they don't promote it's tough but it's it's like, you know, like a dynamic plays or like big play or something like that, explosive explosive place close to.
Thank you. Yes, that's something that Indiana has just been bereft of. But you saw how big it is, and again, I don't know if you can duplicate that again, but you saw it with, you know, we're down 24/7 and half, like you said, and then you get the 79 yard touchdown run. Like, boom is 24:14. It's like normally at least this. Then and last season's like for us to make, you know, it's like two three and outs and then a, you know, 10-play drive that's, you know, six or seven minutes.
It's a slog and like a bunch of third and ones. Just like, wow. I can't believe we got that done, but it's like, boom, just one shot. And then, again, the kickoff return, like having two plays in the second half, they give you 14 points, total it makes it so much easier to come back and that's something that I'd love to see them continue to do, you know the other Things in my mind that this wind does is it especially for you and me?
Not that anyone I you cares about us but it does put to end that narrative that like, you know, Alan has lost the team two years in a row. And it's just been a slide and nothingness, like this changes and you could have probably still said that with a loss and double overtime, but it would have still been like, yeah. But you lost but here it's like you you want like all those things are true. It's not you know. But like you want it's a w.
And ten years. Now you're going to see a w and you know, so I think that's a big part of the process here. I will also say I do not have the stats in front of these, maybe you can look it up while I'm yammering on sure. But I mentioned the beginning of the year that you know Michigan State's kind of a Bellwether for us as a program and going into
this year. I think we're three and three in our last six against them or like we're two three and two or two and it's right around the 500 mark But I do know and I was joke I have a Great friend. In my neighborhood, Robert is a Michigan State fan. So I moved here in 2016. I've been joking with him, like, you know, before 2016. Like they went to the Big Ten championship game they had a better season. But since that point, I don't think they finished higher than third in the Big 10 East.
We have, you know, we finished second, the Big 10 East, we've had a higher finish in the Big Sandy so I think we now have a 4 and 3 record against them, or it's three and three and so and to me it's like that's a big thing. Because you've, you've got to keep Pace with the Michigan. State's like, that's the team, you can't let them. That's what was really frightening about last year. Is it look like Mel? Tucker had things on Rails? They were ready to rock and roll?
They were a rocket ship and it's like well if they're suddenly in the class of Penn State Michigan that puts us in a now. We're just going to death fight with Maryland and Rutgers for the worst team in the in the Big 10 East like Michigan state is really over all the talk. We give about, you know, Michigan, Ohio, State and Penn State, like Miss You and state is the team that we've got to keep, you know, in our draft. So to speak, we've got to keep close to them and honestly,
we've done that. Like it kind of is like that that period a year or two ago were you look at the bucket game and you're like, wow we've actually beating Purdue a good amount, like you look up like there's that run. We won four in a row. It's like, this is not as lot psych historically. It's been lopsided but recently, it's not that bad. So, again, recently, I think that we've had the better five or six-year stretch, the Michigan State, and I don't know in what other A of time.
You could say that. So it's actually four wins out of the large three wins out of the last seven games. Scuse. Me three out of the six though. I had that right. The first time it's fits three wins out of the last seven because Indiana one in Sixteen lost. Seventeen, eighteen, nineteen one-and-twenty lost in 20 11 and 22.
Now, that's that's eliminating. The, what the seven straight defeats Indiana had to Michigan State prior to that but, you know, hey, but my stat, I get to pick my start point. There you go. Absolutely. No. But, you know, and I think the problem that we've perceived with this team is that it's not that they're falling behind Michigan State. It's that they're falling behind Maryland or they're falling behind Rutgers. And so, this game was very
strange. And I talked about before, you know, that Michigan State kind of gives off The Vibes of an underachieving team. They're not awful. I mean, the one awful result they had earlier this year, was that Minnesota game and most of their other losses were either justifiable or pretty close. That's what made this win. For Indiana to me. Very surprising. Not so much that it was look. I think Indiana playing at home. I wouldn't have been surprised at.
I mean, they almost beat Michigan State last year, people forget, I mean, that very good Michigan State team that he and only lost to them at home by 5. And by that point Indiana, season was pretty adrift. Jack, Tuttle played the whole game. I mean, it was, it was not an ideal situation for Indiana, so, you know, talent-wise, I don't know that these two teams are that far off, but even with Michigan State. Struggling this year by the standards that they set last year, Michigan State.
You know, they went into Illinois and they won and and they, you know, they've done other things this year where you're like, wow that's that's a legitimate football team and Indiana. Just hadn't looked like that. I mean, for Indiana to have lost seven straight coming into this game and for Indiana to have lost at Nebraska and lost at Rutgers. It was just really hard to Envision. Michigan State who is much better than both Nebraska and Rutgers actually pulling
themselves together. Not pulling themselves together and winning against Indiana team that is look to drift. And so look, you know, there's a lot of the narrative coming out of this game, was this idea of, you know, Indiana found their heart again? Now that's an interesting narrative and if that's the case, great, I mean, the the staff and sticks out to me more than anything else.
More than the passing numbers is that Michigan state scored 24 points in the first half and then scored seven points. The entire rest of the game Mmmmm and that for especially for the defense, a defense that has really looked poor has been worse than the offense from a statistical perspective for most of the season. And frankly didn't look very good in this game in the first half.
Look like Michigan state was kind of able to do whatever they wanted for them to find their backbone and their steel and be able to figure out a way to stop what Michigan state was doing through the air and keep them in check on the ground. That really is Perhaps the kind of Turning Point that they needed, I mean, you know, as much as we have bemoaned, the lack of obvious Talent Development or lack of
execution. Among guys who we expected to perform a lot better, whether it's Taiwan Mullen or Brian Fitzgerald or, you know, Devin Matthews. Those guys really did show up in that second half picking off a pass. I mean, it feels like it's been forever since that happened, you know making several stops, you know, down the down the line there and You know, it wasn't just the, the two, three and outs early on. It was also, you know, they turn Michigan State over on Downs.
They they forced Michigan State into a punt and that was the drive that or the punt that led to the touchdown drive for Indiana that tied the game up, you know, stopping them in both overtime, sessions that they had the ball. That mean, those are, those are things you can build on. And that's the kind of thing. I think that you and I have both been hoping to see and I don't, I'll always be curious like what
was it about this game? At halftime that got them thinking we can do this when it didn't happen in some of the previous games, I'm and I'm happy that it happened. I'm just always fascinated by like why certain times this were stuff works and other times it doesn't well then to me that's the most impressive thing about this game is that if you looked at it and said hey one teams up 24/7 and then basically D you know didn't score the still barely score.
The second half another team, you know, came back and scored 39 points in the You know, in for the game you'd be like oh that was we somehow got a lead against Michigan State and they made adjustments and we did nothing in the second half and it's like it was the opposite story and that is something you and I have also been harping on All Seasons. It seems like at halftime the other team comes out.
And it's like, alright we made a couple adjustments and we don't counter adjust and then that's, you know, Checkmate by two minutes into the third quarter, it was opposite here and you had it, you know, it was Michigan state. That wasn't, you know, executing at the end. So no, it was all true. Good. I mean that the couple of is a weird place to be where we're nitpicking a win and we this should just be a we want and
it's great. I mean a couple of things that like at the end, you get Michigan State to go. Go on forth, they don't get it, like, Indiana gets the ball. I think they go for plays. You know, they go like not three and out but like six and out and that's where I was like, damn lie. You have the game there and they punch it to Michigan State. And then Mitch they just run the ball down. Down the field, get to like the whatever the 6-yard line and then miss a field goal.
Yeah, now I mean you didn't need a little score, you made him kick a field goal, the conditions were tough, but that's what I was, you know, there were a lot of signs there of like old IU or it's like you had the game you needed your offense or defense to make a play and they didn't on either of those but they stopped them. They didn't score a touchdown. They, you know, they and they made them execute in the emission state was not able to execute their and again, Weird
spot to be harping in a win. I will also just throw out, just has to be brought up. It's like it is so, so I you and it worked out, but I always think back to like what you and I talked about like, are you knows Alan learning the wrong lessons from things but it did work out. So you can't get too annoyed but end of the first overtime, there's a you know, a couple minute break we line up for the start of the second overtime line up and then call timeout.
That's like like timeouts are important. Now that that Did set up the the pass, you know, we scored in overtime, the touchdown pass so it's like they made it seen something and then call the psych, I will give them benefit of the doubt, but it is, it's tough. After years of seeing so many bad timeout, call that just like I was like, you, that's where you use your time out, really?
But again, it worked and we are at a point where I always hate the, hey, man, a wins a win, but it's like that was really where this program is at and they needed that. Yeah, I mean, ultimately Italy, those types of calls. We don't have to we're not to harp on because they end up. Not yeah mattering. And that is a great place to be, you know, and it's it's like we'll talk about basketball in
our next podcast. It's like there were little things that happen in that Xavier game, where you're like, wait, what are you doing that? Or why was that decision made? But all that stuff, miraculously just becomes things to work on if you win as opposed to being things to harp on when you lose. I mean and I'll say this you know Indiana It's not entirely like they're not going to a bowl, but five and seven records, but they Rutgers got it Ivan. 7 could be a bowl Rutgers.
It is possible. It seems unlikely this year but just because there's a lot going to be a lot of teams that are likely going to be six. And six is always going to be five and seven teams. That Indiana is probably going to not, not going to be viewed in the same context as but look as down as we've been on the program and as down as I was on them in the preview podcast and look, I was I was wrong. They responded in a way I did not expect them to and I'm happy
to be wrong. I've always just wanted this program to like, show life and I was thinking about this as Michigan state was lining up for what? Look like was going to be the, the game-winning field goal As Time. Expired.
It's like, how I'm going to get, how am I going to feel about this and, you know, I'd settled on this idea that look, They lost and that's unacceptable, it kind of what you said, but on this on the the same token to be down this long this season and to come back on the road against the team that was fighting for a bowl bid and really needed that win because they're going to have to go play at Penn State next week. And that's, they're probably gonna lose that.
And they're gonna finish 5 and 7 for this team to fight back the way that they did, it would have been a, an unjust result in soccer. This would have been like a perfect draw game where it's like, you know, you fight back, but for Indiana does, Vo, the points as we would say in soccer and Come Away with the Victory World Cup. I'm right now, I'm I've got, I've got this horrific opening ceremony on in the background right now.
That's another podcast. But yeah, the whole idea behind this win for Indiana and even if they lost the game was, here's a team that's been downtrodden that really looked like they were out of it from a mental perspective, from an emotional perspective, for them to come back and respond the way that they did in this game, even if they lost. The game on that last second field goal, I think is a Real Testament to the fight that has been on Earth with this team.
And the question is, okay, can you replicate that and can you play well against Purdue? And I can he ruin the end of Purdue's season? Now, you know that we didn't get the greatest time line here, which would be canadiana have a chance to beat Purdue with a Big Ten championship game birth on the line for Purdue. That seems very unlikely as Iowa beat Minnesota yesterday. Only needs to beat Northwestern, they hold the tiebreaker over afternoon are Nebraska.
Sorry, they hold the tight end. Nebraska looks like a truly broken team. They just lost at home yesterday. There's still an order of events. I don't know what time that games are set for yet, like if well, I'm here for doing first, Purdue Indiana. Is it 3:30 that they just, they just announced that yesterday. And I think I want to brassicas at for our so, it's a four. So we, yeah, we could do it. And there could be score updates where we An absolute have it on the line. Yeah, we could.
Absolutely I mean we could completely put the nail in the coffin of Purdue which would be great. But right now like if those two teams finish six and three in conference Iowa is going to the Big Ten title game which that's a whole nother thing. So big ten west like this is like, really you play a whole season. This is what you give us. I know they're they could, they could that Violet had on the season in the big tennis court, 151 points. I mean that is like for that
team to make it into the big. And title game is just a clear, clear? Indictment about how stupid, the Big Ten is handled their stuff. But anyway, regardless, it's still a bucket game and, you know, this is the dividing line between Purdue going, 8 & 4 & 7 & 5 in Indiana's. Got absolutely nothing to lose. And they've got something to play for, which is in essence momentum for next year. It's hey, let's demonstrate that. This wasn't a completely lost season.
And frankly, you know, you get if you get a victory in that, That game. And this actually, it's pursuant to a question that we got on Twitter last night which was essentially along the lines of, you know, does this win? Let me see if I can find it real quick here, because it was, it's a good question. And I know it's one that several people have asked, this was from our friend, Patrick, as many questions and concerns I have heading into the offseason.
Does a win versus Purdue change anything for me. It's a no, or a maybe. I still have extreme concern over coaching / scheme but maybe Dexter Williams Bridges. To your Gap to a buyout. I mean, look, this is what I was talking about. At the beginning. I think you can enjoy Michigan State, enjoy that win. And if Indiana beats Purdue, I mean, that's, that's something
you should celebrate regardless. Now, you know, even even if you've got concerns about the long-term prognosis of the program and both of you and I are on record saying that there's like all kinds of flashing warning signals that need to be addressed. But if you beat Purdue and beat Michigan, In state in your last two games of the Season that is, at least something that you can build on for next year.
And look, we've said for quite a while, there's there's no, there's no good no change coming with this program. This is what Indiana's got. I think for the next two years, so you might, as well make the best of it. And if you know, if you can pick up a win against Purdue and you can drop them to 7 and 5 and you can think, okay, maybe there is something to build on. I don't think something that you know, again we're talking about 2024 and Beyond.
I don't think anything that's happening in this season or even next season is going to necessarily affect the analysis of what's going on then. And frankly look, if this is a springboard for this team to realize that, hey, we got to shift our system. We're much better as an option style program where we're not throwing the ball, a bunch.
I mean, there were no passes completed, two wide receivers today, it was, it was in regulation the 2:01, a jaybird to Josh Henderson at the end of the over time the Pasta burner and then the two point conversion doesn't even count as a completion. But you know, maybe this is what this offensive line can actually do because they certainly can't pass block but maybe they can run block if that's what Indiana really commits to and maybe that's a building block for the
future. Does it mean that you suddenly have to be Rosy an optimistic about the future? No. But I do think it would, at least point to the type of adaptability we've been like begging for over the course of the last season and And three quarters. We felt like we saw a little bit of it and that Michigan State game and if the defense can start playing like the defense was playing in 2020 which is kind of what they did in that second half.
I mean there was a lot of Bend but don't break but this year it's been Bend and then break. That's at least something to build off of. And I'm look again, I still got a lot of questions about where this programs at, I still get a lot of questions about why this game they suddenly showed up just in the second half. Not even in the first half, but let's just put it aside. Let's let the bucket gameplay out and then let's see what looks like is happening in the
offseason. I think that's really the the solution at this stage. I completely agree and to try and end on a positive note, you know. I have a hard time even focusing on anything quarterback related because you mentioned in the preview, well done that, you know, Williams is numbers or probably even worse than McCullough's Laster macaulay's last year and he's not our fees are wide receiver. Now, is that our quarterbacks like, where where we sat a year ago?
Neither of us knew much about Connor, Bay's lack, and he was our quarterback to start this season. So our quarterback is probably going to look vastly different next year. I would assume it's just not feasible, to go into Big, Texas. And hey, we got a quarterback who completes on average about two passes a game, right? That's just that's not going to work.
But, you know, going back to some things that we've talked about that, you know, whether all the things you said are true, but it's like no matter what, like whether you believe it was, you know, the right setup or, you know, things are not exactly analogous. But like Alan had a run there for three years where he was very good with that team and that group and got them to do things well beyond the scope.
Up of what I you football normally does and and so that is that is the Hope and the feel here is like we know that he can do it. When things are lined up correctly, we know that he can take a team and push them a little bit higher than we want them to. It's like in basketball to get you a coach who's been to a final four? It's like we know they can do it. Maybe everything has to be lined up but like let's let's get those things lined up.
And that's that is also what I think here going into the offseason is you know you look at that Penn State game in 2020. It's vastly. You have different person, a lot of things, not the same, but it's like, look at the numbers of that game, Penn State should have won the game. Like, if they just score a touchdown, they win the game. Like the guy stops or no, know if they guy Neil, sorry. If the guy kneels and doesn't score the touchdown, they win
the game. But you know, we win the game on a play by penix. We all know. And that kind of propelled us if that doesn't, if we don't beat Penn State, I'm not sure what that season looks like. And I'm not saying this is going to help repel us a teal to new heights but This could be that piece that kind of stops The Rock going down hill and starts going the right way.
And as you, and I've always said, it's like, Alan works on Vibes, works on good feelings, and when he can get that going in the right direction, he can get people to do things kind of beyond their scope. And so that's that's that's what you hope happens here as well. Yeah, that's that's that sounds it about as well as I could sum it up. So so Indiana wins and I'm pleased, and we're will love it in the bucket. Interesting fact trophy interesting. Game coming up.
And I'm I mean, II will say, you know, Purdue has scraped together. A pretty good season for them overall given where they started this year. This is not a great Purdue team and I think that it's going to make it a really fascinating day if Indiana can figure out something on the ground and and play well on defense. I mean, you go look at what Purdue's accomplished so far in the season, you know, there. They've just, it's just such a
schizophrenic set of games. They've, you know, they they won at Minnesota. They want at Maryland, they won at Illinois, but then they got blown out at home by Iowa, and they only scored three points. And they really struggled against Northwestern yesterday, and they only won by eight. They they lost it. Wisconsin, and Wisconsin is not that great. They really struggled with Nebraska, they lost to Syracuse which didn't look that bad for a while. They barely beat Florida.
Atlantic, I've Clue what to make out of this Purdue team whether they're actually good or not. You know, they haven't overwhelmingly scored points this season. They have an overwhelmingly kept their opponents from scoring points. They've been very schizophrenic and I mean Indiana hasn't been schizophrenic.
They just been poor but you look at the way that Indiana played in this Michigan State game and it's like if you can bring that kind of emotion into this game, it feels like a very even game between two teams that are not awesome by any stretch of the imagination. Both have a lot of flaws. Oz and you know it's a bucket game. So there's a lot to be said for random chance happening one way or another in those sorts of games. So we'll see what happens with that.
We'll have a preview podcast coming up close to the end of the week as we get ready for that game. Scott. As always a pleasure talking to you football with you. Well, not I mean talking with talking with you talking wins. I mean, it's been a while since we had a chance to do that. So anyway, thanks to you folks, for listening and thanks to home-field apparel our presenting sponsor here on the back home network. Be sure to tune in later this week we'll have IU men's
basketball. Ball should have IU. Women's Basketball will have football or more men's basketball. It's podcast season, it's Feast week, so eat it up. Folks for Scott. I'm Galen. Thanks for listening to Crimson Castle. Catch you folks on the flipside. Bring back the Bison, so everybody