You're listening to the back home network presented by home field apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and Claudia Scott Caulfield joining. Yes, Timber 11th 2022 Indiana's, 2 and 0 in football. Maybe we should just leave it at that. Scott, what do you say? Will podcast to get in 2020?
This is fun. Yeah, we're we got a lot to talk about but we're not going to go overly long because I just don't know at this point what exactly to say, and it's funny because I was worried as I went to bed last night largely because of this podcast, I was like, I got to come up with something interesting to say and surely, I am the only one struggling with this and yet, I pick up the paper today and, you know, I'm reading the Indy star coverage and some other Average, I didn't
actually physically pick up a paper. I mean, what is this 1995? But but I realized that it feels like your morning. You have your morning cocktail. I did. Yes, I, yes, I did. I flipped on, you know, CNBC and well, you know, just smoked a Chesterfield. Yeah. Chester, I said, 1995 not 1959. But I realized after reading our friends it was a costume and dusted to appear. I could feels like nobody really knows exactly what to Day after
this game. And so I don't feel so bad about myself now, but we'll try to get our feelings in order throughout and Scott. It's good to see you. You made what ended up being a very wise meteorological decision. Not to come to the game yesterday. How are you doing? I'm dry. I'm I'm doing doing very well. Yeah, we're doing great. We stayed here? We will be in for next week's game. We will be tailgating I got the Weber Q, have it all set up,
ready to rock and roll. I'm gonna take some pictures Galen help be with a little tailgating experience. I want to hear about your experience at the game, but, no, we, I my watching of the game was a little bit messed up. We had our first Like official sleepover with another kid with my, my oldest son and it's it's bizarre just taking it one step off here, being the parent in the sleepover game.
Where I'm so used to being the kid out, what being as a kid had done many sleepovers, the kid haven't done them. A while. It's been weird. Like it was just wild going down there and be like, alright, boys. Time to go to bed and it's like it's just so bizarre Being the adult in that situation. But they were they were in messed up. Our I was going to grill out for them and then the rain came up here in Westfield and so we had a grill burgers inside. We're watching the game, both the boys.
Like, man, that looks wet. Let's go play video games or is there out, but so we had that the background. But yes, fun night good. Well this reminder folks that we are part of the back home network here Crimson cast and the backbone. Is brought to you by home field apparel your place to go for the best in college apparel and some Pro apparel as well as great vintage designs, soft Fabrics, a
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Well David's probative. And the the tailgate experience is actually where it ends because we had some childcare issues that happened right around the start of the game which led to there was a well what happened was the game got delayed and it was so wet at the tailgate that both me and my wife got like, entirely. And then we had, we had kids at a sleepover that wasn't at our house and then those one of the kids had to come back. And so I never got to go into
the game. I got right up to the start and end up having to come home. So my hat is off to everybody that actually did make it in there and I was I was a little miffed. I couldn't go in although then I watched as the weather continued to devolve throughout the course of the evening and I was like a maybe that wasn't that bad of a solution to things and, you know, It's so it's I that I will say the tailgate was great up until the rain.
Really started to come down heavy, it was kind of lightly sprinkling for a while and I we had the Blackstone out, everything was hopping there. You know, cooked to really nice meals. We did a whole taco bar for the second meal for the, for the dinner meal. And fortunately, got all the food cooked and everything. You know, we have a TV going with a generator, it was great.
Then, the rains really started to come down And it just essentially it turned into like a refugee situation at that point with everybody huddling under to canopies. Fortunately we had a second canopy from some other folks that joined us. You couldn't go anywhere like it was raining so hard. I was driving. I did not make it to the Virginia game back in what was that? 2018, the hurricane game but but it was it was similar. The wind wasn't that bad but the
rain was just ridiculous. And I think this game And that Virginia game and probably that Michigan game from the end of 2019 like are now in the, the, the pantheon of bad weather tailgates that we've had this one. At least we got a good 6 hours in before stuff really went bad, okay? So you didn't go in, sorry, I remember that Michigan game, that was rough know, it looked it looks bad and then, you know, of course I have.
Anyway, I'd friends like sending me pictures of the stadium empty, like, oh, well good, I you gave me think it's raining like, It's like yeah. Now then and there and this is one of those, it's like it's an FCS opponent, it's 8:35 for the kick as opposed to eight. Although it's funny it even with a 35 minute delay, the game got over before the Illinois game, got over the previous week everybody's like keeping it like
a telescope. Yeah but it was I mean the weather was just it was not great. I give every ounce of credit in the world to the people who actually sat through that throughout the entire for even even if you only sat through eighth to a After I give you a whole bunch of credit for going out there and you know, I yeah. So anyway that was the scene and I don't think anybody can blame anybody for how they handled that.
But let's talk about the game itself is Indiana was unfortunately just bad for a large portion of this game, didn't score in the first half down 10. Nothing to Idaho looked pretty much. Like completely incapable of doing anything noteworthy, and this was not just an offense thing, it wasn't just a blocking thing. It was pretty much every phase of the game and missed two field goals.
They couldn't do past coverage, it seemed like hardly at all, you know, and even Idaho's rushing attack, while it kind of ground to a halt later. They were picking up chunks of yardage in that first half. It was probably, you know, a when you factor in the level of the opponent, it was probably maybe the worst half. I've seen Indiana play.
I mean, yes, they've had some real stinkers against like a Michigan or an Ohio State, but to play that bad in the first half and I saw people like attributing the issues to the weather or doing two balls. Wet as I both, both teams are in the same way. Both teams are using the same ball somehow I do is able to score 10 points, but it really look like Indiana. I can't tell one of one of our friends texted me, you know, feels like I, you pulled back too much. Not wanting to.
So a whole lot on the field and then realize they had to get things together and ramp it up again and because I mean they did play well in the second half for the most part it wasn't great but it was certainly better. They score 20 to 23 points. In the third quarter, en route to a 3522 Victory. They did start to really click on offense, the running game got going, but man, I mean hard to wash the taste of the first half out of your mouth. Scott, what were your perceptions from?
Watching it on television. It's funny. You also, I also had a similar feeling. I'm like, what do I say about this game? On the podcast today. So podcast listeners Gail and I were both, you're keeping us up at on Saturday nights to me there's like five outcomes of how a game like this could go. And unfortunately I you did three of them. One outcome is we just lay the wood to Idaho and it's like, you know, a complete drubbing, you know, like what Michigan state
did to act. Like you're 53 is 0, that didn't happen the other. Is like what happened with, you know, Nebraska and Georgia Southern where you get into a dogfight and then you lose that one also didn't happen. But then the other three kind of all happened in this game is that you have the, you know, really getting letting a an FCS opponent just play out. Play you for a while.
We have that in the first half where it's like 10 nothing it's kind of getting close to that like oh my God we're going to lose the Idaho game. You have that for a half knot just like two or three minutes or a couple drives you have For a half. Then you have the, the the second half where it's like, are you start off and you start kicking their butts, which is kind of like the wind but then you also have the hey, we're up by a bunch.
Now we're going to add our foot off the gas, and gas and Idaho's going to score on their last two drives. You also had that where if we were up like you know, if you just reversed everything, let me get the right. You here, you know, an Indiana goes up, let's just say, twenty nine to nothing and then the game ends 3522 today. Be talking about like all right. Well they you know they lift their foot off the gas, they did that but like they did that also
like it's, it's tough, you know? I think so. It's like they did three of the five things they didn't win. Handle it in lose. Thank goodness. But they did really flirt with a loss for a while. They had that moment where they played well, but they also seem to let their foot off the gas as well at the end. So it's tough. I my overarching feeling is, like I said, going into this, it's tough to take a lot of stats out of this like I can look at last year's game.
You look at Stephen Carr had 118 yards, he never really hit that level again, except for the Maryland game, the rest of the season. He was kind of sub 100 yards so it's like I don't have a hard time taking stats from a game like this. Even if we had beaten them by 100, it's like I don't know how real that is. What is real is getting blanked in a half. And, you know, this is like I saw some stuff, you know, can buy cough does the postgame show about, you know, hey, it's all
about, just a win, is a win. It's all right. Well, that is true. But this program is also suffering some identity crisis and you know it's suffering. Kind of a struggle of confidence and definitely from the fan perspective, Not That Matters to the team. But you know, for a team that's trying to get back from a really
sour taste last year. It almost would have been better if they would have gotten up, 23, nothing and everybody's like, all right, you know what, I'm just going to turn it off and they wake up. As one's got a little the foot off the gas. Well you know it's cold it's wet. Its Idaho cares being down, 10, nothing. And then it's like, maybe some people like, I'm done, like, I can't handle this. Like, it's almost like, they didn't win the game because a lot of people like it 10. Nothing.
I have friends. Who aren't I? You fans only texted me, a bunch of stuff. I got, you're the next one to go down. Like, you know, you and Notre Dame. And the baskets are like everybody to calm down the game is not over but, you know, and again, so I do think in this situation, how you win a game like this is somewhat important versus just winning the game, they did win the game. I'm not sure how much I want to dig into the details in the stats, based on that. But they got it done.
But man, it wasn't like they just came out slow, they let it go for an entire half and I think that is, what is concerning is, you can Overlook Idaho and not be totally prepared but where the skill level should be. If Indiana really is, you know, a 67 win team and Idaho, you know, is who they are. So to speak from Dennis greens comments, you know, Dennis screams Old Line, you know, they are who they are, you know, then, Then okay, the overlooking not being ready with balls like that.
Could go for a drive or two but then it's like you should be able to lock in at least right the ship against Idaho.
But they weren't able to do that until the second half which is concerning because if you just punched a half to even like Maryland or Rutgers, you're not going to have enough to come back in the second half, so well, it's concerning So one of the big themes that we talked about throughout most of the pre-season podcasts was that we have trust issues right now, with Tom Allen and this Indiana football team. Yes. And this didn't help this did not help. And this is where I mean
everything. You just said 100% agree with everything that I read that. You know, it's like, Zack austrians column this morning. To paraphrase, was basically about, well, if this helps Indiana find their Eat it with the events of the first half. Helps Indiana. Find the their fighting Spirit, then maybe it was worth it. And if not, it's going to be a long season and I hear that argument and you know, maybe that's how it plays out and I understand Ken's argument about well win is a win.
But again like this is a football program that historically over and over again regardless of the coach has had real trouble playing consistently well on a week-by-week basis and being professional. Channel about what they're doing, and it's something that made 2019 and 2020. So unique in the history of IU
football, was that those teams? Yes, I mean, 19 got blown out a couple of times, but, you know, both, you know, by and large, you always felt good about those teams going out and playing. They don't always play great all the time, but they did professional job in most of those games. And I just haven't seen it the last year and to see two games so far, like it was completely off. The table last year and it's been kind of Hit or Miss so far
this year. And so, when you look at a game, like Indiana versus Idaho, it's really disturbing that they have to get their butts kicked all week in practice, and then we read about them, you know, Alan having to go in and scream at them in the locker room at halftime. And that it just illustrates to me that if you were on the more conservative or maybe pessimistic side of eating wins and losses for this team, which this is Scott. I'm talking to here who was more pessimistic.
You were probably accurate because I think at this stage what we've seen yes they be do annoying at home, barely. Yes, they've beat Idaho after falling behind 10. Nothing in the first half. It's hard to really Envision this team suddenly developing a professional approach to football and the executional ability in blocking in pass coverage. And some of these other things, It's going to lead to a bunch of Victories against teams that do
that every week. Anyway, you know, I mean this is It's and that's what's frustrating to me more than anything else. Is that? Yes, I understand the ball was wet in the first half but you can't be 5 for 15 in the first half, throwing the ball. And I mean, I got news for everybody, this is the Midwest. Have you been in the midwest in the fall before the weather is often? Not great, that's not an excuse.
This was not a weather thing. This was a we don't seem to care enough to play football the right way and it showed on the scoreboard for that first half and look, they get credit for coming back and fixing it in the second half but I don't think they get that much credit because the fact that they were in that position in the first place illustrates that this team is still got a long way to go in my opinion or maybe Tom Allen has just been right this whole time and the the trouble was
Idaho knew who our quarterback was. Death of our plays me, they knew our depth chart and they're like, who's coming in? Like we do bait. We're paying blades, base lack? Like this is sorry. My alarms going off, high-class podcasting. But now, they know we're playing bass. Like so it's like, you know, maybe every week, who is he to go to the transfer portal, get a whole new team and not let them know who were playing or I mean, is it possible?
Instead of that, that perhaps we could just play one game Seasons. So, you know, just can set of 12 games, could we be the college football? Team. And it's like every every year we play one game and I think, you know, you're right now. But in all seriousness, it's this was one of those games and when I talked about it in the pregame podcast it's like it's whenever you're playing a team like this. It's really not that much about the opponent.
If you're a big 10 team that's got some level of quality. Now, we've certainly seen Indiana teams that are like, talentless me, some of those those mid-2000s teams. Thales is overstating it. But those teams were struggling to beat FCS opponents and they were struggling to beat like the really lowest rungs of division one at times. That's my, my concern is that, you know, this is really about you as a football program and And last year, we were a little
bit underwhelmed. By the way, Indiana played Idaho. And that was, it was a little bit of a warning Bell that went off. Especially after that Iowa game to start the season. It was like, gosh, they, you know, yes, they won 5614, but they felt kind of unimpressive on offense, like we need to see more. Imagine like, you know, take that feeling and double it. And that's kind of where you're at coming out of this Idaho game.
Yes, Indiana has a healthy quarterback and they didn't send it look like they suffered a lot of injuries but this is You just worry about the spirit of this IU team if knowing what happened last year and knowing what they had to do last week to get ready for that. If they took their they're not like they're just not at the point where they can take their foot off the gas to that degree and actually be successful. And again, look, I'm it appears Tom, Allen is cognizant of the
problem. It appears that the coaching staff is cognizant of the problem, but it's still a problem and that's a real concern and it goes back to that. Question about what is the culture of this IU football? At this point and this is where it's tough to overreact or not overreact. And you really only the only way we know is, okay, we got to wait until next week and see how they perform in that game.
And that's what makes this so frustrating and so hard to talk about because I'm not going to go off the rails. I don't it's like reading some of the stuff from the Notre Dame media after they lost to Marshall, I mean, they're, they're pulling the fuses out of the box right now and they're freaking out about Marcus Freeman and they're freaking out about like who are these players?
I mean, I feel like we did that last year with this IU team and now it's kind of a well, okay, show us why we should reinvest emotionally. And, you know, the old annoy win was nice. We talked about there were a lot of flaws. There were a lot of issues that were easily observable in that game, and we gave Indiana credit for overcoming them to come back out and have another performance where there's a lot of things to pick through it.
Just I just, I, it's hard to reinvest seeing that and feeling like, You've got at least a 50% chance. This is going to go down a dark Road. It's funny. You mention that Notre Dame side. It's like then there's a Nebraska side. Who was like, is it October 1st yet? That's all. We're. What is a buyout lower?
Like this is really not going. Well, we're not going to worry too much but no it's you know, if this game had been and this is where I have a hard time taking anything away from this game because all the good things happen in the second half and it's kind of a, you know, riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a you know sweater to quote the symptoms Simpsons is. Because we made a bunch of adjustments in the second half or is it because we're just a bigger better team.
And, you know, we were able to do things by just sheer will of like over time that you know, I do just got tired and they threw in some of their backups because that would be what we were saying if this game happened. But let's say we were playing, you know, Michigan, and we were up on Michigan 10. Nothing in the Michigan. Came back and scored, 29 against us. I mean, that's kind of, we've had a lot of big ten games like that.
And on our, on our I'd we always say, well, you know, at some point, you know, just the size and the scale of a team like, Michigan is just going to, you know, exert its will against a team like Indiana. You can't hold them at Bay that
long. The same could be said here and, you know that that's concerning because if you go with that route, it's like, all right, when these teams were both playing their best and, you know, had all of their starters in and we're fully functional, you know, Indiana went punt, field goal missed, you know, down off on Downs, a fumble Punt an interception for 120 yards in the first half.
Like that's what you got. All the first happens, the team that we are both concerned about the running in the first half, this would have been a great game to get some running things going, they didn't do it until the second half and that's where it's like I don't know if that second half running is because Idaho got tired and we're into their second string players or if we figured some things out, but even if we did it's like it shouldn't be hard to figure things out against Idaho.
The passing yards were down, but this is where I will say that this is you passing is going to be hard and the game. Like this. So I'm not going to be too too tough on it, but the interception was on an overthrow which we saw a lot of in the Illinois game. So yeah, it's again, I'm not like you. I think you said it best in the preseason. Like we have trust issues. And so, this is really as a fan, like, I'm not going to go nuts. I'm happy. We won. It's way better than losing had
we lost again. I'm not sure. I would have gone nuts. It would have been like. All right. Well, this is, this is not good. This is, I thought it was going to be bad. This is worse than I thought. This is kind of unfortunately where I thought we would be and as a fan as a podcaster, as a man, as a father of a sleepover kid, like I'm in the spot where it's like you just to this team that you've got to just show me.
Like you've got to show me that you can be like you said professional you can put it together that you figured some things out. You can come out against Western Michigan or Western Kentucky, sorry and play a full game that you can beat maybe marylander Rutgers.
You know, I'm really just kind of sitting back and And it's like, it's like, hey, I saw you in that car with that, dude, it was a Corvette like, you told me wasn't anything, but it's like, I'm I'm still very nervous and I just want to see you know, how the rest of the evening goes. Well, that's where I'm just like, I'm not going too far off the rails but it's like, I'm,
I'm concerned. I feel like I have a reason to be concerned and now it's like I'm going to sit back and wait and like uiu football needs to show me why I'm not wrong. And they got a real chance to do it next week and but it's either. You look at Western Kentucky. Western Kentucky has scored 38 points and 49 points in the
first two games. They've, if they played in FCS opponent in Austin Peay they played at Hawaii, they won both games and they scored more points in each of the games than Indiana has scored in either of their games.
It it just makes you concerned because the offense this was and you know last year We you know, when we talked about that game versus Iowa, it was well let's see if the offense can get itself on track because it looked really bad against Iowa and to their credit, they scored 56 points and it's like, okay, the offense could be good. The offense could score points. We didn't see that against Idaho this time and yes, I know there was mitigating circumstances perhaps due to weather but still
you score. 35 points, you run. Maybe the worst collection of two point conversion plays. I think I've ever seen that. Don't have a lot of confidence on that front moving Forward you know, but you're you now, you know the training wheels come off this season and you've got a Western Kentucky team that looks like a live wire on offense as Indiana shown on defense that they're going to be capable of making Western Kentucky play their game. I don't think so.
You know, you've got a Cincinnati team after that, who lost their first week game to Arkansas. And then came back against an FCS opponent, in Kennesaw State, and throttled them this past. Beating them 63 210.
You know these these FCS games are always a bit peculiar because you you know you get you know some teams just not being fully into it and we certainly saw, you know, games against lower level competition trip up, a bunch of big teams, but you just don't have that you don't have that. Luxury is Indiana to not use these opportunities to assert your dominance and now I think you to some degree in this. Why I keep coming back to the psyche this team?
Are you doubting yourself a bit after struggling with Idaho for a half? And then as you said, letting your foot off the gas in the fourth quarter and letting them score double-digit points because if you are you got some real problems. Not just with these next two games but what you are facing for the rest of the season. So anyway, it's hard to know what else to say about it. I mean, obviously I think it's nice to see that. Sean Shrivers finally had a good game.
You know, his only game too, but as bad as the running game looked last week and really is How does it look for the first half of this week? He finishes with 20 carries 155 yards, seven point eight yards per carry has a touchdown as a long run of 46, which was that touchdown even Josh Henderson came in and rushed 8.3 yards a carry, that's good.
I like seeing that it certainly didn't look like that was what was going to happen in the first half but the fact that those two guys were able to rush for that degree. To fact, Indiana finished with a 6.6 yard, you know, average per Rush. That's a good thing. You know, and look, it was not a day for the passing game, but I liked what I saw at a DJ Matthews on that drive.
When he caught the touchdown pass, I liked what I saw at AJ Barner, you know, it Donovan. McCulley got involved in a couple of ways ran into touchdown. Had a nice catch on a slant pattern. So look, there are some some positive signs to take out of this. It just it feels like offensively. This team still doesn't quite know what it's supposed to do which is probably something that was going to happen with a Offensive coordinator anyway, but there's just very little time.
Now, you hope that they were a lot further along than they are at this point particularly when it comes to the blocking and the timing between basil a canned is receivers defensively. I mean I gotta say this like the guy that stands out for me is des on mcculloh like he's been, he looks really really good out there and that's a really nice thing to see you know, Jaylyn Williams had a really good game cam Jones at another really good
game. Aaron Casey does. Nerves. I think some special mention as well, you know. So, look there again, it's not all negative. There are some positives, you are seeing some individual performances looking good. I just worry because you just just feels like we've seen this script for my you football before and I hope that somehow it takes a different turn from what we normally would anticipate coming off of a game like this.
Yeah, the only other thing I would say to keep an eye on is, you know what made the Indiana defense? So unique in 2019 and then especially 2020 was, it was good, but it really feasted on, you know, takeaways fumbles interceptions. And, you know, it's concerning that in a game against Idaho, where again, it's like, you don't get it both ways if the conditions are so bad and it's so tough to hang on to the ball. Why is Idaho?
The only one that gets a fun? Full recovery and interception, and Indiana, walks with no turnovers. Like, that is, that's concerning, I have to go back and look at the numbers and 2020. I think they got a turnover like an every game. I mean, they were creating turnovers all over the place and that was one of the questions going into 2021 is like, is that
replicatable? And never even like Josh Perry came on with me and like, you know, we talked about, he's like, yeah, you you learn those skills and like you know, some of it is luck but the putting yourself in the right position and obviously it wasn't totally replicatable in 2021 and That's another thing that's just concerning from this game just to keep an eye on is if you're going to beat teams like Western Kentucky or Cincinnati coming up, you're probably going to
need one or two times where the you know, I think it's fair to say we're not going to have an explosive offense, just going to put up 48 points and so it's like you're going to need the defense to come in and do a pick six or flip the field. When you know Cincinnati's driving or Western Kentucky is driving and and thus fought that the fact that they couldn't Force any Any real turnovers on Idaho? Yeah, Idaho Force to is like that's that is also a little bit
concerning. Yeah. I mean, at this point I mean, you know, you know that's a good point and there's not a whole lot else to say about it. I don't think so. So anyway, we'll see. We've got some pregame stuff to talk about this week is Indiana takes on Western Kentucky, that's a noon kick. So after two straight, I know nice to get off. The eight pm game. We will have podcasts coming up this week. Crimson cash will be back again. As you guys talk through some bedding.
How did that? How did they have any big? Takeaways from this past week, no, James hit it on the, the Iowa State, Iowa game. That was a he so he makes me bet 10 bucks. Every sinner has make me, I'd gladly bet 10 bucks, but it's on James's recommendation. We are to know. I had a couple parlays that did not hit, but I think he was big on Georgia Southern covering we, he's been doing very well thus far in a lot of if this was this
was a tough week. I mean there were some just Bonkers lines out there some very high lines But yeah he I'm to know with him this week, so we're going with Jane anyway, we will be back later this week Crimson cash coming up on Thursday and then we'll also do our pregame podcast, not sure who we're going to have on that yet, but we'll figure that out. As Indiana, kind of rolls forward here, the Hoosiers to know and that is something that yeah, we should celebrate.
And we're, yeah, four more to go as and, you know, hopefully, there was enough good that came out of the Idaho game and maybe Realize that there's an attitude and an approach that has to be taken. That helps them to get to that a little bit easier than before, but we'll see what happens. So, anyway, Scott has always a pleasure. Good luck with the Remain. The the remnants of the sleepover, and I'm sure you'll, you'll pass your parental duties
with flying colors here. Anyway, on the pancakes. There you go. On the pancakes. Thanks for listening, folks, will be back later on this week. With more podcasting about IU football, bring back the Bison. Catch you. folks on the flip side for everybody,