Welcome back to Crimson cascading Fabio joining you once again in a few weeks sorry about that. It's an interesting time of year as we get ready for the start of school. And of course, the start of football and IU football in full swing practice wise as we watch this team start to put itself back. Together after what was obviously a disappointing last year and we've got some folks to talk with us about it from the Hoosier Network. We've got Evan gareki and Max,
Parker joining us, guys. Good to see you. How was the summer? How you guys doing? How's everything going? I mean, I just want to say, I am very excited to be on Crimson cast, because when even before I made this, the switch over to doing sports media, I listened to Crimson cats. So I looked up in the it for people who can't see, there's a little Crimson cast marker in the top left of my screen. I was like no way okay I'm on
Crimson Caso summer was great. Had a lot of fun I interned at WISH-TV and that was a blast but I'm super excited to be back. Got a chance to go to IU football training camp, a few times and just excited to jump back into football. Thanks, Max is Good to see you back. Evan, how are you doing? How was the summer? I'm doing great. Yeah, I was out in a New York this summer, interning with the Baseball Hall of Fame.
So I've been kind of all over the country this summer, little bit out of the I football beat, but I'm the loop but I'm jumping back in. I'm ready for a new season to come. Start fresh after last year. I'm excited to cast that up and telling me or tell them. You are well-versed and ready to give your hot takes. Oh yeah. Always, you know, to some degree. I think. I think a lack of Prior, like, focus on IU football, might lead to more optimistic, or at least less less downtrodden.
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You know, fall Camp, which I always feel weird. Calling it fall Camp because it's summer. Still like both those meteorologically and just realistically speaking. We haven't even started the fall semester yet, but it's back and This are you team obviously with a lot of pieces to pick up from last year.
Last year did not go particularly well I don't feel like I need to recap that here but not a lot of people believing in this IU football team and just kind of go through some of the stuff that we've seen generally have been picked either sixth or seventh in the Big Ten East, you know, whether you're looking at like pick six previews or PFF, or I think ESPN had them down in that range as well and it's kind of interesting. Because clearly, this team had a
bad season last year. It was one of those Seasons where everything went wrong. You know, it was some parts of it were injury, some parts of it were motivation, some part of it was coaching some part of, it was just bad luck but this team really struggled pretty much the whole way through the season. You know, even of the two wins that they got, one of them was a barely win against a group of five team.
So, they come into this year, essentially in a situation where any Improvement is probably going to And them with a better record. Let me start with Max because I know you covered the team a lot last year. As you think about last season, you think about what's going on so far in this offseason, you know, what do you feel? The current Vibe is with this Indiana team and how does it compare to what we saw say at the close of last year?
Yeah so I think I think there are two big things that stick out. One of those is a quote from Taiwan from Big Ten media day when he was talking about his decision to come back and his was more of a position of I'm not going. Go out to and 10, you know. So it's and that was a that was a position that we saw
yesterday. When I was at fall, training camp was we were talking to the defensive lineman and it was like we just can't do that again, we're not going to do that again and so on the one side it's the players have a recognition that that's just they're not going to let that happen again. And I think there's an emphasis on a lot, more accountability from leadership on the player side of things. So I think that's something then
to know. And then it's also I've had a few opportunities to talk to coach Allen and his sentiment is believing in the same, the same philosophy, but kind of I think the interesting aspect is you learn about a lot about yourself when you are really, really struggling and he learned a lot about himself as a coach and he's talked about that. He's learned a lot about himself as a person, and they learned a
lot about themselves as a team. And so, I think there's a greater sense of obviously, when they were having a, an amazing season, they were, there was a lot of like that Elio stuff. People talk about broadcast to the whole nation. But I think there's a deeper sense from my understanding, a deeper sense of connection between the team. It's interesting because one of the Hallmark seven I mean you watch it from afar like I did of the 2020 team and the 2019 team
was how together they seemed. And even at the end of the 2020 season you know they have the whole thing with the Outback Bowl where they take the Big Ten patches up the jerseys because they Felt disrespected like it really felt like there was a lot of Esprit de corps that famous scene from the Wisconsin game of the players. All running off the field and yelling about how Tom Allen's best coach in the country. I mean, it's odd to watch that disintegrate.
So rapidly particularly in a season where everybody thought this team was going to be really good. You know, from from your perspective, looking at this kind of spectrum of realities, that's occurred over the last three years. How do you interpret this? And, you know how A team. Put the pieces back together in terms of believing in each other again. Yeah, I mean, you kind of mention that there.
There's definitely a chance this year, for them to determine which of the last three seasons has been the fluke. Is it last year? That was a 2 and 10. Is it the the, you know, top ten almost top 10 finish in 2020. And the shortened season, are they more realistically aiming for a 20-19 where they were eating for kind of looking into that bowl game? That's what they're they need to
aim at this year. I think that's where they're trying to kind of push the pieces to they're not going to be a team this year, that kind of finishes top 10. I don't think anyone's expecting that again, but there are still a lot of really good pieces on this team that are things go really work really, really well make. They finally get it together and it'll be harder this year because they're outside, Tom Allen, they're under a new regime. They've got a new offensive and
defensive coordinators. They lost a lot of our coaching pieces from last year but the player A lot of the players that contributed early on are still there. The defensive backs you've got Taiwan mole and you've got Jaylyn Williams, you've got Devon Matthews all returning. The offense is a little bit New Look, especially with that quarterback with Michael panics being gone. There's definitely a chance for something to kind of come
together and create a spark. And you look back to last year and the end of the season and by the time they were, you know, two and six, two and seven, you could watch on the field and just see that the effort was no longer. There that they were all downtrodden and a year that was just way tougher than anyone expected. They start their the season ranked 17, we're driving to Iowa talking. The car about, you know, how
many points is IO? Need a score to keep up with Indiana. And then it turned out the answer was first pick six and then you're good. So it's there's a sense, kind of like what is this team even capable of And and from the fall is kind of been tough to to really put that together because everything feels so different and like after the two and ten compared to the the six and two it's like where does Indiana go from here?
It's a really hard question because there's so many new pieces and you mentioned the defense and certainly the back seven of the defense is relatively stable you lose Mike McFadden but you've got people in the linebacker positions that have some Koreans, clearly, the secondary is the strength of the defense d-line. There's some question marks. We'll see how that pans out but offensively at the skill positions I will be. Anybody has a clue what to
expect. It was essentially a wholesale change from what we saw last year now that needed to happen. You know, I mean, you'll never know what Michael penix might have brought to the table if he hadn't been injured. But it was clear that he was not physically capable of going. Basically, from the get-go, it also is clear. That last year's version of Jack. Tuttle was not ready to step in and quarterback this team as a
starter. And that wasn't even I think, arguably the most troubled position on the offense, I mean, running back, you play to Walk-Ons, you really get very little production out of the guy that you thought was going to come in and be the day. One starter you have injuries at wide receiver and you can't have anybody getting open throughout the course of the year, you know, and obviously the offensive line had its struggles.
So It's it's almost impossible. I feel like Max to get a good sense of what to expect out of this offense because they're there are some intriguing pieces that we have never seen in an IU
uniform. And then there's other pieces that could step up but we have no clue if they're actually going to be able to. Yeah I mean I think it's very interesting just kind of the shuffling and appoint the Evan mention, there are a lot of the same names and faces on this team, but at the same time, I'm we really have no idea what this team is going to do. And you mentioned skill positions is DJ Matthews coming back. I really think he's going to have a good season.
He's kind of they're shaping up to be their number one Target. And he's a, he's rightfully. So he had a talented, talented skill set and he had good numbers before he got injured last year. Relatively early on against Western Kentucky. But I think I think it it starts with the quarterback, the most important position in sports and there's still a question mark there too. With Connor Baseline. Then what do we? I mean so we've heard a lot about Bayes whack.
We've heard not that much about Tuttle. It's interesting because it feels like as much as you know won't bail won't name a starter and Tom Allen won't name a
starter. It feels like you know we've seen footage from the IU accounts of Basil a Back throwing, you know, at whether it's I think there was some kind of pro Camp earlier this year or, you know, we've seen him named to, you know, a couple of lists of the this person is probably going to be starting with Jack Tuttle, all we've really seen and heard is like, he's been named a like some humanitarian award watch list. We haven't really to two of
them, which is great for him. But we haven't really seen him talked about seriously, Evan, as the starting quarterback potentially for this team. I mean, Regardless and I understand, I don't necessarily agree with the secrecy stuff but I understand why the team does it. So, you know, it's a stylistic choice. But I mean in your mind what would you rate as the chances of Basil ACT versus total as the the day one starter and the starter for the rest of the season with this team?
Yeah, it is hard to say right now because it has been such kind of a big secret of what's going on at camp. As of this moment I'd say it's like probably 60/40 basil lack and it probably should even be higher. I'm think I'm being a little bit generous, I think even bringing
this transfer from the SEC. Like he's your guy, totals been around for a few years now and he has not done anything to kind of, for me to. Wow, me into thinking that maybe he deserves a starting role that doesn't mean he hasn't done anything, on the offseason. There's a very good chance that he could have improved and he could be beating him out. I don't know. Walt Bell did say that today. Actually probably be a really big day for that separation.
They're having an Assad scrimmage that can show who's kind of taken steps forward but I think basil like is kind of the guy that you got to be looking towards first. I think is his starting position to lose and you know he doesn't need to be Michael penix. Everyone knows that if Michael panics is that as best, you know, he really takes Indiana football to the next level that never really happened that kind of happened and for a little bit in 2020, but Never really got
there. Basically, just have to do that. He really just has to be more kind of the the painting Ramsey role where it's just a solid consistent quarterback that can help the team. You know when games and 11 said I was looking at that was interesting from the Quarry was just a good article about kind of comparing the numbers between
Jack title on Connor basil. A canned, a really big thing for basal-like was his completion percentage under pressure and it was around Around 10 percent higher than Jack tuttle's is 72 262. When they were kept clean 39 to 31 percent completion. Percentage Under Pressure based likes had the advantage over tunnel and both of those numbers. And if this offensive line is, doesn't take, you know, huge step forward from last year's and takes only small steps forward.
Then the quarterback is going to be under pressure. A lot as a number for me that I think is really interesting to see if, if one guys better You know, when being Blitz there when Under Pressure that's the guy, you kind of have to look for first because that's what we saw last season was he's quarterbacks just getting hit and getting constantly being the pocket collapsing on them and they can't you know, complete passes under that. It's going to be another really
long year for Indian football. Yeah. And I mean obviously we will talk about the o line and a little bit but the need I mean you mentioned Peyton Ramsey, it's not even like his ability to like make the short passes and just move the ball down the field but it's the ability. You get hit and get back up and get back under center for the next snap. That ends up being the big question mark. And yeah, I don't know.
I mean the pressure things, a fascinating one, I've been going back and watching the highlights of all of the games last year for Indiana just to try to refresh myself with things. That's probably the biggest thing you notice with Jack Tuttle is how much these lights? Well, well, they're, they're highlights in that they were cut up. It wasn't every minute of the three hours. It's like, he's gone. Any other teams highlights.
Well, you know, it's funny that you say that to the two games that I'm the most fascinated by from last year, are the ones. I think, we're pretty much the fulcrum points for the season, but, you know, that would have made it at least like a decent season as opposed to the disaster. That it was where the Cincinnati game, and the Michigan State game. And those those really do tell an interesting tale. You know, I think a lot of people focus so much on the Cincinnati, game and McFadden's
targeting call. But what people forget is, how many Possessions Indiana Thruway in the red zone, and the first half of that game going for it and trying to, you know, make the knockout punch early rather than simply taking the field goal and adding some points to their overall total. I think that that made a big difference and then for the Michigan State game, what was interesting was, how much
Indiana was in that game? The whole game and how little they got frankly out of the quarterback position and in fact, it not only did it, do they not get anything. It took some stuff off the table because Are you had the? I think there was a pick six in that game for title or something
similar. It was really glaring how off he was in a lot of those throws and again we don't know, you know, all the things that occurred with injury last year and all of the the confounding variables but it is going to be interesting. I think of Base like comes in and is the starter, how do his skill position players do? Because that was one problem. I think last year that got blamed a little bit too much on the quarterbacks was how Almost
impossible. It was for most of the wide receivers to get open and whether that was the routes in the schemes. Or whether that was simply, guys, not having the physical capacity to get away from the Defenders that were on them. It really made a huge difference and it tended to add two or three seconds to every play two or three seconds that Indiana didn't have. Because of the problems that their offensive line had Max in terms of trying to keep them. Yeah.
Yeah. And I'm glad you brought that up because I was just looking kind of comparing the stats between base. Mike, Teutul and panics. I mean, basic just raw. Looking at the numbers. He completed passes at a higher clip than both penix and Tuttle did. But the thing that's going to be interesting to see in, this is heavily reliant on how the offensive line performs. Is it base, like isn't a runner, you know, and panics. Panics jr. Had that ability when he was healthy too.
To be a great mover in the pocket and also extend plays with his legs. And he had the ability to buy a few more seconds to allow that wide receiver to get open. I mean looking at base lacks rushing numbers. He he doesn't really Rush, he doesn't really rush at all.
And so I think, Are you has to get if they want to if they want to put base like in the best situation obviously you need good offensive line play, but I think it's going to be interesting to see how basal activity is the starter. And he's getting a bulk of the Playtime how he adapts when the pocket breaks down. Yeah. Now it's going to be interesting. I mean, he's basil, acts record at Missouri last year is a curious one because I mean he, they racked up some wins
obviously. He struggled against like Arkansas does close the season that there's no real shame in that that's a tough game on the road.
But you know, he really trailed off towards the tail end of the season in terms of both passes attempted and passes completed and you know, I think in the last five total games that he was the starter he only threw a grand total of four touchdowns in those five games that does concern me a little bit now, you know kind of turning on Stalin's 26 There's options. Well back, yeah, well and if you extend it back, three more games, you only add three additional touchdown.
So I do think there's some cause for concern, even if he is the guy and certainly there were other factors with Missouri that that you could think about. But, you know, this kind of leads me to a larger question about what we've seen out of practice so far. It's, it's interesting thinking about okay, who are the pieces that are going to be out there? It's hard to Envision them because we just haven't seen
most of them in these roles. You and Max, let me start with you and then I want to move to Evan, but who have you seen so far max out of practice? That's made an impression on you. And what was that impression? Yeah, I mean there's a there's a high-profile guy that came in then I'll start with and then there's like a sneaky guy that kind of made a lot of made a lot of news, but I'll start with Sean chivers transferring in from Auburn.
I think there was a moment yesterday at practice that stuck out where he Performed a wrap. I mean it's always funny because as media we are not allowed to look. It's even different from in NFL training camp like we're allowed to be there for plays in NFL training camp. I got some experiences there at Colts training camp. We're allowed to be there when they run their 11 on 11 here for
IU training camp. We are allowed to be there for the drills like the like where they put stuff on the grass. And you got it, like the lat Drills and stuff like that. So there's only so much you can glean from that stuff, but there was a moment when Sean drivers got some feedback from his running backs coach. And then each guy after that, he stayed around and gave them some feedback to. So I think there's a level of leadership there from Shrivers. That'll be interesting to see that.
I mean, Stephen Carr was a really talented guy, but he was for the most part. Pretty quiet in my experiences with Him. I don't know. I'm not in the locker room so I don't know but there's a level of leadership from Sean drivers that I'm going to be interested in and then Donovan McCauley that switch over from quarterback to wide receiver. If you just line these wide receiver rooms up thumb Donovan McAuley is like oh hey like
you're tall. If you look at just across the field, you can pick Donovan McCullough, you can say. Yep, that's number one, that's out of a colleague. He's big and he's got that athleticism. I think he could form to be a really big Target. I think it's going to be fascinating when this wide
receiver depth chart comes out. Because again, as we've said over and over broken record here, there's so much mystery in terms of who's going to be where so I think Donovan McCauley could really make an impact alongside DJ Matthews Junior, and then I'm going to go on for one more guy.
Omar Cooper, Junior, junior was a really talented recruit coming in. I mean he was a four-star guy from Lawrence North. That is People were worried, he wasn't going to commit because he or sign on because he signed on late. I think he's a guy. Who's got the physical numbers? He's 61 193, I'm from McCauley 6 5 to 10. So I even that like Omar Cooper's, a talented guy down, McCauley's, huge. I think that's going to be fascinating to see ya.
Lot of people have been questioning that move Evan and clearly. Macaulay was one of the highest-rated recruits that I you had ever gotten you know he He made it, I think people assumed okay this could be the quarterback of the future, it really wasn't working out for him. Last year, he was really struggling to complete passes. You know how? When you heard the news that he was moving to wide receiver?
How did you take that? And how do you think this experiment is going to play out as he moves forward into the next stage of his college career? Yeah, I'm pretty sure when I saw Ella to my phone and went, yeah sounds right, and then cut moves, what I would whatever I
was doing. It's funny because I remember doing podcasts like last year and And before the season started and we were kind of going to the quarterback Jake depth chart and Dexter Williams. Was that guy that we're like, okay well he might never actually see a snap at quarterback for Indiana, but I can conceivably see him playing like a wide receiver role and now it's actually dynamically. That's the guy that's doing that and with the size he has it is
conceivable to see it work out. I mean, he's obviously a super athletic guy and we saw that a lot of his time at quarterback last year, but we also saw that he really wasn't the guy they were ever gonna Trust As quarterback. At least not in the fashion they had last year. There was, I can't remember which game it was. But afterwards, one of the losses, there's enough of them afterwards time. I was in the press conference.
Someone asked him, you know, Donna Mick Foley only through like 10 passes and Allen. Pretty much said, we don't trust him to throw the ball and when that's your quarterback, that's your guy. There's that you'd that's not sustainable at all, and that's why we saw Grant Grumble take the starting role against Purdue. We saw down. Um, holy for Thing. One Snap that game or one notes will snap and that was the quarterback sneak. That was a rushing touchdown.
There was just it just wasn't there. And obviously, this is coaching staff thought it never was going to be there at least in the form of quarterback. But we've got a guy that Co 65 and you can throw them out and wide receiver position. And it'll the one thing for me is how physical can he get? He took a lot of his last year
and went down for a bit. So came he kind of stay in and Some heads at the, what at the wide receiver position, but assuming that he can, I don't see why this that switch won't work and I think it's a good switch for the team to move someone like that to wide receiver. The guys wall Bell is talked about ads position so far in Camp and I'm just going to kind of read through the names and honestly see how many you can recognize DJ Matthews is going
to be the guy. He's going to be the number one in the slot. He was really good. Last year before going down, you've got down in the McAuley who the average fan will know. As a quarterback. And so the wide receiver Javon sweatin, he's really kind of the last name from this, from Seasons past.
He had a few decent catches that kind of popped off paper, but then you've got cam camper is a Juco transfer Anderson Kobe, from Tennessee, Emery Simmons from UNC and then Omar Cooper who might be another one is probably going to stand a little bit more to the the more advanced IU fan. But even some of these guys have transferring in like don't have huge numbers elsewhere and some kobe didn't really do.
Ton of Tennessee. Emery Simms is kind of the guy with the biggest numbers over there UNC and it's some pretty good competition. And obviously Juco transfers we've seen him work out before in Camp campers so that might be something, but that that room just it doesn't seem like it has been in years past you had, you know, W failure and Nick Westbrook and then tie for rifle will the past couple Seasons.
So adding a name just to see what they can do, there is definitely really interesting strategy. But there's a chance that it definitely works out and I think I football needs someone to work out in that position.
Not go for it well and you know, it brings up one of the big, I think, under discussed issues last year, which were mentioned a little bit earlier, which was people get a little too down, the road on how football works and into, in today's game of college football, you have to have good athletes, a great athletes, and he got to give them space to operate, and Always both of those things seem to be in very short supply last
year. And, you know, I think for me and I think for a lot of other people, the initial news about McCulley moving over there was like, my God, like what is going on? Like, this is another high-profile recruit that doesn't look like they're panning out, but I do think there's a big difference between being a high school quarterback being a college quarterback. And if you're that good of an athlete, you're going to have a lot better chance at making a difference in a game if you're
not. A top-line passer if we could. You listen uh-oh. I want to jump in and pointing this made retailer with a high school quarterback to. He came in that corner back there for a while. Oh well I guess he was kind of recruited more as a cornerback then as a quarterback but that's another name that he, you know, he started off in one position then you get to college and play somewhere else. And I for the most part worked out, he definitely made his made his impact here at IU.
Yeah. And another guy, I think it's interesting growing up in Northwestern fan as we looked at Frozen Galen on the screen. Frozen dr. G c and he's gone. Now, another name that popped up growing in Northwestern fan came Coulter. He was a guy who played a lot of lot of quarterback but then he made a name for himself also, as a wide receiver and moved on to
the Vikings as a wide receiver. And I think again, as you were mentioning Galen before you got frozen, but I'm not that if you have that like, athletic potential And you're a quick mover. Why? Why not? I mean he's the one who came to coach Allen. That asked about that. Coach Allen has said that that he that Donovan came into his office and was like, coach. I'd like to, I'd like to make
this move. So I think he sends to himself, that wasn't working at quarterback and obviously, his mindset is, he wants to do well in college but also for the pro level. And so clearly that was a decision, he felt like he will excel at the most Will obviously be keeping tuned in on this over the next couple of weeks?
As we get started for the season, I don't want to tempt fate because the internet has not been kind to us this morning as you gentlemen, know, but last question before we break up, there's been a lot of secrecy about what exactly Indiana's going to be doing on offense under won't bail, you know, and there's been a real focus on. I guess. Not tipping Indiana's. Hand as far as what their plans are. What do you expect?
The Walt Bell offense, Look like how will it be different from what we saw from from, you know, Nick Sheridan and also like, how is it different from what we saw from Walt Bell when he was the head coach at UMass? Obviously a little bit of different situation there but you know, do you see this offense, taking a step forward. Do you have any inkling about what we might be? Seeing out of this offense as we head into the season. Not really. Okay, we're all just in the dark.
Evan, you got any ideas, not any more than the next person. There's going to be some growing pains with the team for sure, kind of restarting the system. And and there's not kind of the one or two guys that can really take this team to the next level. Maybe you see something out of Shawn Shriver so I really kind of helps boost the Run game which boost passing game and all that.
Maybe DJ Matthews has a good year and maybe one of those Quarterbacks that we've been talking about, kind of comes and takes over and leads the team to Glory or whatever, but it's going to be a rough season that there's going to be a lot of plays where you just kind of sit back because I you fan like oh here we go again. But it could also work out so who knows who knows, right? I think I think what what could be interesting about this is that he is not at least based on
the numbers and his past stops. He's not some like offensive Guru, who's going to come in and reinvent the way teams play college football offensively. I mean, he's a guy who seemingly to this point and again, we don't see anything in training camp because we have to go Way when they run the plays but maybe it'll benefit this team to keep things simple and just get
back to the basics. Just I know this sounds so basic but run an offense and just put the ball in the hands of your skill players and see what they can do. I think that's that might be a theme with this team. This year is see what they can do. Yeah, I know the big question I have from last year and will close on this is Is how much of the problem last year was the
scheme? What, you know, was what Nick shared into had put into play, and how much of it was a lack of execution on the part of the players? And I mean, think there was clearly some fault on both sides but it does make you wonder. It really makes you like think about. Okay. How would you have that big of a fall-off in execution from one year to the next and it's you know, the the highs of 20 20 tended to mask, some offensive deficiencies that were
happening. And during that season two, he's certainly not the same offense. He saw in 2019 I guess the question ultimately becomes and we won't know until we get further into the season. You know, does this approach a different approach? Does that make that much of a difference? And do you get players to execute at a better level than they've executed over the last year? Essentially?
I don't even knows that and we don't know nothing about the players that are there right now to really be able to say and that's what makes these and so hard to figure out. So I will Ilse. We know that Connor basic and Rain threes from the corner that's important, and they made sure we knew that and we know that. So just that's important to Indiana fence. That's one of those guys who the he can play two sports.
Now, that's now that could be a whole other podcast of it, that could be a whole other podcast podcast, some Carter Bays, like in the corner for IU basketball. Last time we did that in football was Antwaan, Randle a like, that lasted like season and a half. It wasn't. They didn't yield a lot of fruit. So anyway, we're going to wrap up.
I appreciate everybody joining us, Evan Max, looking forward to reading and listening and watching you guys as the season goes along and we'll have you back on here relatively soon.
Thanks to all you folks for listening we had a lot more football coverage coming up here over the course of the next couple of weeks as we get ready for Indiana, taking on Illinois, on the Friday before Labor Day to start the season at Memorial Stadium for Evan. For Max, I'm Galen this is Crimson cast part of the back home. Network will catch you folks on the flip side. Bring back the Bison so everybody