Music and good evening, folks, and welcome to the first ever Tuesday night Bison chat. GAIL and Clavio joining you here as we launch something brand new, a collaboration, the first of its kind between the Back Home Network and IU Sports Media. So thrilled to be joining you here tonight. We've got Joe Cronin from IUSTV Sports and Big 10 Plus joining us. We've got Emily Fox behind the scenes producing things and
making all of the magic happen. We're looking forward to talking IU football for the next 30 minutes. We're going to be doing this all throughout the season. We hope that you will join us. Most of the time we'll be online. Sometimes we might be in person, so there'll be some opportunities to check out what we're doing there. But Joe, first of all, great to
have you aboard. Thanks for joining on this interesting odyssey that we're doing here as we try to bring more IU football talk to the masses. Yeah, it was really exciting to break ground on this. I appreciate you choosing me to be a part of a part of this. And football's back. It just it's exciting. It was exciting. It was exciting last week, week 0, when Florida State lost in Dublin. It was exciting here in Bloomington.
There's been a more buzz for IU football in a preseason than really any of my time on campus, especially with first year head coach Kurt Signetti taking, taking charge of this team. And just there's an energy, there's an energy at the tailgate fields and it's an exciting for football fans across the country. And then I think with IU fans especially, there is something to be excited about with this
2024 season. I've been watching IU football for significantly longer than Joe's been alive, so he's here to bring the optimism. I'm here to temper it with occasional cynicism, but also my own optimism because I agree with you, Joe. There is a palpable buzz around IU football that we just haven't seen in the past few years. It was a little bit like this coming into the 2021 season. That did not turn out particularly well.
And unfortunately, the two years after that didn't turn out well either, which is why we find ourselves here at the dawn of the new coaching era for IU football with Kurt Signetti at the helm. What we're going to do on the show tonight, we're going to start off by talking about that
FIU game. We're going to talk a little bit about some of the things that was absolutely exciting and, and revealing about the team in a good way, the things that they need to work on, a lot of things to talk through. And we've obviously got some feelings that we need to talk through with the IU fanbase as well. And this is this is where we're kind of landing on things.
As as Justin just pointed out, IU fans have been duped for ages in the eyes of a lot of folks as far as football is concerned. And The thing is, I don't totally disagree. Not so much in terms of like being purposely duped, but there's been a lot of full starts with IU football and fans getting excited and we'll talk about that some in future
episodes. The thing of it is, I do think that there's a lot of reason for optimism with Kurt Signetti and this staff and what they're doing with IU football. We're looking forward to talking about it throughout the course
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So you were at the game. You were able to take in what you saw from your media credential. I guess maybe before we get into the statistics, what were the big things that stuck out to you from that game? What did you take away from it the most? Yeah, before I jump into the game, are you? You're upset about hoodie season? I mean, that means football is football. It feels great outside. One of the things that people learn about me is, and I'm, I will admit, I am abnormal about
this. I am, I am the outlier. I don't really like autumn. I really don't like it when the temperature gets cold. I don't like it when the leaves fall off the trees. Being in Indiana, it's kind of like, it's tantamount to saying I hate tenderloins or I've never played a hand of euchre in my life. But I that's kind of how I feel about about autumn. It just doesn't vibe with me the way that spring or summer do.
And so yes, I'm not I I have a ton of hoodies but I don't really enjoy hoodie season per SE. OK, well, I guess agree to disagree in that regards. But regarding week one season, Oprah against FIU, something that stood out to me at the start is I was roaming around, went to your stop by your tailgate for a brief moment. Just there was a buzz. A lot of conversations you'd hear walking by was about football. It wasn't about like what they're doing in three hours.
It was, hey, we go in the game, where's our seat going to be, stuff like that. Conversations that I guess the last season, even this year before that weren't talked about much because this team didn't have much to talk about is A2 in 10 season 3 and 9 four and eight. Just not a lot of quality performances and obviously it's so early into the year only being one and OA 31 seven beat down of a Conference USA team isn't a ton to hang your hat on.
But still, it's just working out some of those early season kinks. And then the energy at the start of the game when when I was getting ready to walk out of the tunnel, First off, I I was paying attention to coach Signetti. He was so locked in as compared to back with Tom Allen. He's firing up his guys, tapping along their helmets, doing the little side to side sway. Zic just standing there looks at looks at one of the the big 10 network guys is like, can I get a countdown?
So for when I actually have to run? That's what he said. And then just all serious, all businesses out there. But the buzz around the stadium above it student section, it was loud, especially at that start. And I think it there, that was something that really stood out was what was that first, first game atmosphere, especially at the beginning, going to look like.
I found and my friends who I was texting with throughout the game found Signetti watching to be almost as entertaining as the game itself, and in a couple of cases more so. Like it was like wow, he really like it was interesting and and Scott brought this up on Crimson cast over the weekend. It's like normally, you know, Tom Allen would be jumping in everybody's huddle, would be, you know, in every meeting would
be running up and down. Signeting not only was very stoic on the sidelines, but also kind of stood away from everybody during play, was 20 yards away from where the bulk of people were. Might stick his head in quickly on offense to say something, but really kind of let everybody do their own devices. And he was clearly very locked in. I mean, everybody's seen the video of him with his jaw locked after that penalty. And it's just like, wow, great. Our coach is a nut job in the
right way. This is this is exactly what people are looking for. But I also thought it was interesting just because it was clear from his body language, from his reactions that he wanted execution from Indiana. And he got it in some cases and it was like, all right, that's what we should be doing. And there were other cases where they didn't give that. And it was clearly not something that he was excited about seeing. And that is a real change of pace.
I mean, you covered the team last year a little bit. You saw what what the situation was like. It just felt different all the way around. But it was really interesting to kind of get a chance to see him on the sidelines for the first time in a live action situation. Yeah, it was interesting to start to take it in seeing like a play is happening down on the 40 and he's on the opposite 30
just pacing the other way. And I think part of it has to do with the fact that Mike Shanahan calls the offensive plays and Bryant Haynes controls the defense, but also just he's he's a football guy and he just is so locked in and and he kind of had to take in the moment. Obviously he has won everywhere he's been, whether it's been at IU, Pennsylvania, Elon or even James Madison. It's a new kind of a new
feeling. He's at a power Power 4 level now considering the the PAC 12 is no longer, but I think there was probably a little bit of nerves. He he might not admit it considering the personality he is, but I think there were nerves, especially for the week 1. I know I think you're right and I and I think that's a good you would expect that. I mean, and the guy's been waiting his whole life to have this type of a, a head coaching opportunity. So certainly I think there's some of that.
And I think that, you know, you're, there's clearly a lot of confidence in swagger with Kurt Signetti.
It comes through. But there's also, I think in any, in any situation where you've got a head coach coaching a new team, especially with the roster build that he had, where it's like, there's a bunch of guys from my old school, There's a bunch of guys from the ACC, Here's some guys from the Big 12. Here's the guys that came back from last year for all of that, you're it's got to be a little bit nervous fracking because you really don't know how they're
going to react in a live environment until they're out there. But they actually reacted very well. Let's go ahead and get to looking at some of the statistics from that game. And you know, we're going to start right off with the team box score here and you know, I'm going to zoom in a little bit so we can get a little bit of a better view. Still some decent technology here. There we go. So you can see Indiana really dominating on offense, and that's as much a story of the
offense as it is the defense. As much as the offense kind of got a little bit criticized afterwards for not being more clinical, for not having more points on the board. They out gain FIU 414 to 182. They significantly out gain them on the ground. And just from an offensive perspective, you got to be happy at least that you're rushing attack. Is that effective? This was actually the highest total average yards per carry for IU in a game against an FBS opponent since Michigan State in
20/22. It had been a while since they had really had this level of effectiveness on the ground. Yeah, and especially the fact that it came with a 1-2 punch of the running backs. It was Tyson Lott and getting the bulk of the carries. He had 16 and punched in two touchdowns as well, as well as Justice Ellison, transfer from Wake Forest, had 10 carries for 68 yards. And we were able to talk to Lawton after the game and all the credit he gave was to the offensive line.
Said they were giving holes. They were giving holes even when Rourke was pulling it. And that's in regards to an RPO when he's finding a different read on a short route. But the offensive line played well, 22 members of the line, it was Carter Smith and Bray Lynch. They were in the top ten of highest graded run blockers this past week. So it was the only school that had two in the top ten. So the offensive line played their tail off, especially on
the ground. I mean, 6 yards per carry, it doesn't matter who you play, that is going to be an effective job by that offensive line. And whether it was Ellison or Lawton, they weren't getting touched until four or five yards into their into their run. And they're a good contact running back, so they're able to fall forward, maybe break, so they're able to make some good plays on the ground. Brian Toohey disputing your calls at the PAC 12 is dead.
I'm I'm actually going to side with with Joe on this. Brian, it's it was a great story the other day actually. The PAC 12 cannot come to an agreement with the Mountain West about scheduling like, you know, you're in trouble as a conference if you can't get the Mountain West to partner with you on something. But but no, your, your point is well taken. The running game looked good defensively. This team really showed out.
And I think to me, the big story as we Scroll down to some of the defensive statistics is how effective IU was. They they really played about as well as you could expect. And to me, it was fascinating how effective the defense looked coming off of the Tom Allen years where Allen obviously defensive coach, coaching defense at Penn State. Right now, it's like that's that's a coach. You would have expected the defense to always be the best
part. But that was sneakily kind of the undoing of the Allen era was the defense not playing up to its level of expectation. Meanwhile, you got to feel pretty good about Aiden Fisher, you know, D Angelo Pons, Jalen Walker, like this whole group of players coming in from outside and making this type of a contribution immediately, That really gives you a lot of confidence in the types of personnel that Signetti was able to bring in.
It just seemed like there were there were hungry guys at all three levels of the defense, whether it was guys in the front with Mikhail Camaro or James Carpenter, both those guys coming from JMU. And like you said, Aiden Fisher, he got a hell of a game. I mean, two tackles for loss, got himself in the backfield again with a sack, flew around the field, led the team in tackles.
And then D'Angelo Ponds, Josh Sanguinetti, guys in the secondary, Sanguinetti returning back from IU from last year. They had a good game. And Amari Farrell getting his first interception in an IU uniform as well. It's just there were guys playing at, once again, all three levels, and I think they were fired up. And Bryant Haynes has a pretty good system of physical, physical outside guys they swarm tackled too.
They wrote a lot of not many broken tackles and it's something that Signetti was asked yesterday about the tackle in Week 1 when you don't tackle all throughout fall and he said he was he was had pleased with the way his team tackled considering they had not had a lot of practice doing so. Kurt Sigetti had some good things to say specifically about his defense in the post game press conference. Let's go ahead and hear those comments now.
We'd like to pride ourselves on being real fast and physical and disruptive upfront and create a lot of different looks for the defense and being really good against the run. I think we gave up 53 yards rushing, less than 200 total yards and we've always been really good against the run and had TF LS and sex, so it was nice to see that carry over with this group. Yeah, and I think that's one of
the big things. It's not just that they've had good past success with defense, but to to come in and play that well. And granted, it's FIU, it's not a very good team that they were playing against. But we saw teams play against other teams the caliber of FIU and not have as good a defensive performance. And really, I mean, outside of that one drive at the end of the half where FIU scored, it was almost a flawless defensive
performance. They even picked up an interception later on in the game. There were a lot of things. I think the thing that I took the most out of it, Joe, was just how many of the top contributors were not on the roster last year. I mean, Isaiah Jones deserves some credit. He didn't get a lot of play last year, but he was on the roster and he made six tackles in this game. Josh Sanguinetti had five tackles and a half a tackle for
loss. And pretty much everybody else in those top contributors came from either JMU or transferred in from somewhere else in college football. That it's an interesting thing and there's some names we didn't see on the stat sheet that were on the roster last year that we kind of expected to. But it's clear that they brought in enough personnel that they can have a good defensive game.
And I'm sorry, holding anybody in FBS under 200 yards in a game, I don't care who it is. That's a pretty good, I guess maybe Iowa would be the one exception, but everybody else, it's like this is a good performance that you hold these teams to that low of a number of yards. It's a good thing Indiana doesn't play Iowa this year.
You don't want to be eating those words, not that you would be. But I think with the defense and with some of those new 26 new players made their Indiana debut on Saturday, which I think that goes into just the weight of the transfer portal in this modern era of college sports. And how Indiana Kurt Cignetti, they utilize those assets very well and and brought in guys like Aiden Fisher, the two running backs who who rushed for a combined 142 yards on the day.
It was Ellison and Tyson Law and and just guys like that were making plays all day. They then found a new home here in Indiana And it just, it goes to show that people were hungry along with this 63 year old head coach who it's claims he's too young to stop learning. What was a good thing to hear from folks in charge? I think that's that's got to be
a process. Hey, you mentioned Tyson Lawton, one of the players that had a a good game statistically for IU, you know, and there, you know, it's one of those things we can see a clip of him in the game and this was the touchdown carry that he had or one of the touchdowns carries that he had that. And, you know, two things here. I guess, first of all, we can certainly talk about how well the offensive line was run blocking and how well they
played overall. But I think the other thing to keep in mind is that Indiana with their top three rushing backs in this game, Elijah Green, Lawton and Justice Ellis, and none of them were on the roster last year. They were all on ACC rosters except for Lawton Lawton, who was on the JM U's roster. But it's it's interesting to see that group come in and immediately become the folks that are getting the ball regularly.
And for Indiana, it's funny, Indiana wanted to be a running team last year, almost to a point of ridiculousness. You know, they're they're doing option runs on with quarterbacks and just stuff that they weren't well suited for. We didn't really know what Indiana wanted to do, you know, on offense this year. And yet they come out and have one of their best rushing performances of the last several years. That is really intriguing.
And I'm really fascinated to see where that goes as we move forward because that could be an identity. I mean, they have, they clearly have 3 backs and a good offensive line. And that's sometimes all you need in these sorts of situations. I and I, I agree. I think they have the versatility in that running backroom that can compete with those Big 10 teams once the schedule comes along.
Now, obviously there will be the juggernauts they play when they head out to Columbus in Week 11 to take on Ohio State, but that's so far away away that we can't really make any sort of prediction up of the of that. But I will, I will add about week 1. When you see teams, a lot of times they try and get run heavy just because the timing of things are a lot harder when it comes to passing the ball. And you saw it a few times there. There are a few miscues in that second-half.
Once the often stalled out a little bit where Rourke was missing a few. It just seemed like timing routes were a little bit off just half second-half step, something like that. And he even admitted it when we talked to him just back. Felt like overall the performance was solid for the first game, but it's like you just get back into the lab and work for that next week.
And I think with this upcoming game on Friday will be a good kind of just get some of those timing down considering it's an FCS opponent. Yeah, that. I mean, it was one of those things where you could look at the passing game and say not sufficient Curtis work, you know, kind of the jury's still at 15 to 24180 yards a touchdown. And but there were a lot of drops. I mean, there were a lot of balls that Rourke put right on the money that the receivers just dropped. And there were holding
penalties. There were other penalties that that ended up negating good opportunities offensively. And again, I think that will be something that gets addressed and can be fixed as we move forward. I I felt like I was more worried that the defense wasn't going to be ready and the offense would be. I'm fine with the offense growing over the next couple of weeks into itself if the defense is already in a good space. We did have a question from John.
Any additional word on Donovan Mccauley's injury and possible availability? I think Signetti addressed that a little bit in the press conference that happened today, Joe, or yesterday. What? What? What's the word on Mccully at this point? I'm trying to pull up the transcript right now. He he addressed it a bit. I mean, he seemed. He was a little typical.
I mean, it was, it was one of those things where it was interesting that Macaulay didn't get targeted more than he did in the game, but he did get targeted. I actually had just texted a friend of mine, like, has Macaulay gotten targeted yet? And then of course, they threw him the ball literally the next time. But then he went out immediately got hit in the head. I think he had a Stinger of some sort, but doesn't appear like it's necessarily going to keep him out of action.
Yeah, it seems like it's a it's a day-to-day thing. He said he was liking his progress heading into this this first week playing fast, doing a nice job and right now day-to-day not entirely sure if he'll play on Friday just considering the level of opponent that it is. But right now all all that is, is just a day-to-day update for
gun work away. Yeah. So I I would remain optimistic that we'll see Mccully maybe in somewhat limited action against Western Illinois because that's probably not going to be that much of a challenge from a match up perspective for him and maybe give him some extra time to get well. But I think he's going to be fine moving forward. We did a couple of funny comments, Matt Kubot saying what dimension did I just fall into that? You just use the words good
offensive line. Look, I mean, here's the thing. You could see a little bit of the beginnings of it last year. And I think Bob Bostad knows what he's doing with the offensive line. But I think what was missing last year was there wasn't a complimentary offensive scheme that allowed for the offensive line to avoid having to sit so
long that it made mistakes. I mean, a lot of those plays that we saw last year with Walt Bell and, you know, and even after Walt Bell got fired, they were slow developing or they were asking the offensive line to do things that they were not really well suited to do. What I saw in this game was handoffs were pretty quick, you know, the, the passing game when there wasn't something happening for the most part, Rourke knew at least to get, get rid of the ball or, or, or target somebody
short. I, I really like the way that they utilized Zach Horton early on that touchdown pass that he caught that, that that's what I've been waiting for for the last couple of years. It's like, hey, can we please use the tight ends? Can we please use somebody other than the wide receivers to catch the ball every single time because that will open things up. And so, yeah, I mean, and you, it's hard to be a good run blocking offensive line these days.
Now, granted, again, FIU probably not the best offensive line exemplar to look at moving forward, but it's a good start. And to some degree, it's like we saw Indiana play a lot lesser competition last year trying to run the ball and they averaged about two yards to carry less than they were able to manage in this game. So a lot of good things to think about and project forward on with this particular team, I would say. I'll add something brief to that
offensive line. I mean like you said, with both side coming in, it was a night and day shift about just the quality of it. And then back to last season with that offensive, the first few games they were rotating 2 quarterbacks with Tamron Jackson and Brendan Sorsby. They they had no idea what they were doing offensively. Like respectfully they didn't. And now they have a six year quarterback who was one player of the year in his conference before I was back in 2022 in the Mack at Ohio.
It's just a well experienced guy that even just the brilliance, the basics like where did I hand the ball off, timings of his steps, He's going to have that more down to the science that there aren't going to be these miscues in the running back. These experienced running backs like Justice Ellison, Tyson Lawton, they're able to find the hole quickly. And I I think it's just it comes down to they have a consistent
guy at quarterback. And it seems like for the first time since what was supposed to be Michael Pendeks. As we move out of talking about the game, we did have we mentioned earlier Aidan Fisher leading the team in tackles, but he was also asked about something that came up in the post game press conference with Kurt Signetti.
And it's something that's been talking about on social media a little bit, which is the attendance at the game of the attendance itself was about what you would get for this type of a game about I think 4344 thousand, but a lot of people left at halftime. If you've been to an IU game, you know that. But Fisher had some comments about that. That will go ahead and play now. Just knowing that the games aren't going to get lopsided anymore, and if they do, we're going to be on.
Top so the. Biggest thing I'd say is stay in these stands and we kind of, we need the fans to get us going and keep us in these games and they play a bigger role than they think. I mean, you know, it's interesting saying, well, games aren't going to be lopsided if they are will be on top. That's a great message to send to fans. It's like, well, look, we're going to be their leading or the game's going to be close, and either way, we want you in the stands.
This is something that Kurt Signetti kind of brought up unsolicited in the press conference after the game where he's like, we got to, you know, we want to start some new traditions here. One of them is getting people to not leave at halftime. And it's an interesting thing. And I'm curious from a student perspective, you obviously were covering the game. So you didn't leave, at least I don't think. Did you leave at halftime, Joe? I was. I was there the whole time. You. Know good.
I just wanted to make sure but the you know a lot of people did leave now the game was it slowed down a bit at that point Indiana was up relatively comfortably. I mean, they were only up 14, but it was a bit jarring to just watch everybody leave and not come back. And I there's been a fight over what exactly we should be thinking about all of these
items. But Joe, I mean, from the student perspective, I know people are excited about football, but there's just this culture that's hard to break with the students about, hey, you get to halftime, you're going to go out and go back into the tailgate fields or go somewhere else. Right.
And and it's something that just so ingrained into what IU football has been these past couple years, it's like, yeah, you enjoy your tailgate, go to the game for what was 1/4 at times and then go back home and take your nap or do whatever. And and I think with this year, with some of those shifts, it's hard to expect something in town. But like the season just got started and the results just got started. And 31 to 7, that's a good score line. That's a Week 1 victory, but I
think. Joe having a little bit of Internet issue here, but but now to kind of pick up on your comments. Joe yeah, it's at you know, it's one of those things we tried to talk about this a little bit on on our show on Crimson cast earlier. This idea, we'll get Joe back in a second, but it's this general idea of what comes first, people in the stands supporting the team throughout the whole time or people who are not in the
stands. We're going to remove Joe from the screen for just a second while we get his video feedback to where it's supposed to be, you know, getting people in the stands 1st and then the team wins or the team wins and then you get them into the stands. And one of the things that I have been saying for a while on this front is it's not going to happen overnight and you're not really going to be able to shame people into sitting in the stands the whole time.
They have to really want to be there. And this is one of those things that I think it's frustrating to IU football fans like hardcore football fans because most hardcore IU football fans don't need convincing. Like they are there for the whole game and they want to stay
there for the whole game. But any, almost any football situation, whether that's, I mean, you know, some of the places like Michigan and things like that, they made Linda's generally have 100,000 people who stay there the whole time. But most of the time you got a certain collection of casual fans and you've got a certain collection of hardcore fans and it's getting the casual fans to stick around. That's always the biggest challenge. It's like we got Joe back. He's back.
Sorry about that, Internet just went down. Hey, these things happen. You know, it's fine. We're we're still, we're still alive. All all is good. But no, as, as I was saying, you, you have to convince the casual fans that this is worth their time and staying there for three hours. And I think it's just going to take a while because you've been here for a couple years as a student, Joe.
You know, there's just like there's not that level of culture around football specifically for students. They'd rather go to basketball games because there is a basketball culture, even if the team hasn't been as successful as historic. But that's what the football's going to have to do. You're probably not going to get people to stick around for the second-half of the first game. But hey, you go out, you beat Western Illinois, you have a good showing against UCLA, you beat Charlotte.
Now all of a sudden it's like, hey, this team's three and one or four and O, we feel like we're cooking. We've got something that we want to stick around for. That's really where the attendance is going to come from ultimately. And especially, I mean, I mean, I think taking a grain of salt with those first couple games just because of the opponent they're playing. It's like once they start seeing the Nebraska's come in Washington, that's a new Big 10 opponent, that'll be fun.
Michigan, that's the reigning national champion when they come to Bloomington. That should theoretically be a game that Indiana has a winning record at considering their non conference slate in some of their early Big 10 games as well. So I think there just is some excitement down the road and it's just going to take time and I think towards the end of the season that should be the goal come the Oaken Bucket game, the goal should be that Memorial Stadium is packed for four quarters.
Yeah, it's going to be a really fascinating evolution to watch and we're looking forward to watching it. IU plays Western Illinois this week on Friday. Unusual day and time for a game. 7:00 kick. Western Illinois is real bad. We didn't spend a whole lot of time previewing them this time around. I'm hoping Indiana wins that one handily, otherwise we're going to really look foolish when we come back Tuesday of next week
and say God, we didn't. We completely underestimated Western Illinois. I have faith in IU. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do to fix things up. Joe, any final thoughts before we wrap up this first episode? Not really. It looks like the Hoosiers will go 2 and O heading into their first road trip of the year and 1st game against UCLA ever. Well, and I'll note as David Litzelswope noted earlier, UCLA didn't look great. A win there would be significant.
They almost lost to Hawaii, watched most of that game after it came home from the IU game. We will see what happens with IU and UCLA this upcoming week and we'll talk about that in depth next week. Next Tuesday, 6:30 PM, same bat channel. Be sure to tune in. Our huge thanks to all you folks who watched and commented throughout the course of this episode. We really appreciate it. Hopefully it was worthwhile for
you as well. If you are catching this on the replay or you're catching this in audio form, set your calendar 6:30 Eastern on Tuesday. We're going to be doing Tuesday Night Bison chat for the entire season. We hope that you'll join us live. We'd love to hear from you. Huge thanks to Emily Fox who produced Behind the Scenes and we're looking forward to working with her the whole season. Joe, my thanks to you as well. Great to have you on board and we'll look forward to doing this
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