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Robert was born an enslaved person in 1839 in Beaufort, South Carolina. He was born to a mother who was... a domestic for their master and their family, was born in a little shack behind the big house so to speak. He was born on a day that there was a hanging. going on. An enslaved person was being executed and the whole town left. And so his mother, who was in her mid-40s when she gave birth... delivered on the floor of the shack by herself. And I've always kind of...
Just thought about that. I can't imagine giving birth in 1839 in your mid-40s by yourself on the floor, but such is how Robert came into this world. was Lydia Polite. She was born enslaved and worked in the home of a man named John McKee. She helped raise his seven children, including his youngest son, Henry. When John McKee died, Henry McKee inherited Lydia Polite. And when she gave birth to her son, Robert Smalls, Henry McKee claimed him as property too.
And what's your relationship to Robert Smalls? I am Robert's great, great... grandson. I had the real fortune of growing up with Robert's granddaughter. My grandmother was his granddaughter, of course. This is Michael Buhlware More.
When I think broadly about the Civil War, that's kind of an abstract kind of a thing. It was so long ago. But when I think about Robert Smalls, I think about... sort of history as it connects to him it's a much more tangible kind of a thing because we've had these really long generations and um And so the history is much more tangible and accessible for me. Michael Boulware-Moore says that Robert Smalls' upbringing was somewhat unusual.
He and his mother worked in Henry McKee's huge house on Prince Street in Beaufort, South Carolina, and lived in a small shack behind it. Robert Smalls was able to stay with his mother much longer.
than many enslaved children were. Slavery, obviously, was a business. And at the first opportunity that a young child could be... put to work in any kind of a meaningful way they were taken from their mother and put to work but Robert because he lived with his mother as a domestic had an opportunity to grow up with her and to receive the benefit of her love and nurturing. You know, by all accounts, he was obviously very smart, precocious. He often got in trouble because he
He bucked against the rules for enslaved people. As the story goes, he was very distraught, for example, at the fact that he could not... go to school, that he couldn't be taught to read and write. When in the evening, when the whistle or the bell was sounded as a curfew for enslaved people, he often rebelled against Going in on that and often found himself getting into trouble, but he was young. He was he was precocious. He had an opportunity to taste
freedom, or at least to observe it from afar, freedom in a way that the vast majority of enslaved people couldn't. And that always, I believe, stuck in his mind. When Robert Smalls was 12 years old, Henry McKee sent him to work in Charleston, about 50 miles from his mother, in Beaufort. In 1850, one year before Robert arrived,
Nearly half of the population of Charleston was made up of enslaved men, women, and children, and had been one of the primary ports for the transatlantic slave trade. When Robert Smalls first arrived in Charleston, He worked as a waiter at a fancy hotel, and then as a lamplighter. Next, as a stevedore loading and unloading cargo from chips. Henry McKee took almost all the money Robert earned.
He let Robert keep a small portion for himself. When Robert Smalls was 17, Henry McKee gave him permission to get married. He married an enslaved woman named Hannah Jones.
and had my great-grandmother Elizabeth, his first child, his first daughter. And so that really, the family piece, really drove... a lot of his motivations and his thinking as it does for all young parents certainly but i think for him The idea that his family could be taken from him, could be sold away at any moment was something that really vexed him, that really bothered him in a very dramatic kind of a way.
And he had freedom on his mind. He wanted to figure out a way to protect his family. The first thing he did actually was he went and negotiated with his wife's master. to buy their freedom. A man named Samuel Kingman owned Hannah and her child with Robert, their daughter Elizabeth. Samuel Kingman told Robert, that he would be willing to sell him, his wife, and their daughter for $800. When Robert worked on the docks, he actually was able to keep, I don't know, like a dollar a week or something.
sending the rest of his wages down to his master in Beaufort and With that money he bought various tobacco candy fruit and he sold that on the docks and he was actually quite good, quite entrepreneurial. And he actually put down a $100 down payment on the life of his family. I think that he was able to save every penny.
he ever made selling various things on the docks and collected that $100 and put the down payment down. They knew it would take years to save enough. And even if they did raise the money, Robert himself was still enslaved by Henry McKee back in Beaufort. And then, Hannah and Robert had their second child, a son they named Robert Jr. and they thought Samuel Kingman would increase the price beyond reach. That was in February of 1861. The next month, in March of 1861, Abraham Lincoln took office.
And in April, Confederate soldiers fired the first shots of the Civil War, firing at Fort Sumter, a Union-held sea fort just off the coast of Charleston. By June... Henry McKee had sent Robert Smalls to work on a Confederate ship, a 150-foot side-wheel steamship called the Planter. It was one of the newest and fastest ships in the area.
He started as a deckhand, then he was promoted to what was called a wheelman, meaning he navigated the sandbars and shallow water of Charleston Harbor. The planter had a crew of ten. Three white Confederate officers, the captain, first mate, and engineer. The rest of the crew were enslaved men. The white officers weren't supposed to leave the ship. They were supposed to sleep on board.
But Robert Smalls noticed that they'd come and go, often staying away overnight. The enslaved crew members had to stay behind on the ship. One night... Someone put the captain's hat on Robert Small's head as a joke. And that was the moment when he first wondered if he could impersonate the captain. take command of the Confederate ship he was forced to work on, and get his wife and children out of there for good. I'm Phoebe Judge. This is Criminal. We'll be right back.
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It's dangerous. I don't know if I'm going to make it. Why don't I just go ahead and take the planner to freedom and then I'll come back for you. I'll come back and get you. And she said, no, where you go, I go. Where you die, I die. And they made the pact to go at this together. Robert Smalls held a secret meeting with the other enslaved crew members. They agreed to join and help him.
They wanted to free their families, too. Everything was planned out very carefully. On May 12, 1862, the crew of the planter had just finished a long stint, a very demanding work. Robert Small suspected that the white officers would be eager to leave the ship for the night, and as afternoon turned into evening, it appeared he was right. The Confederate captain, first mate and engineer,
all left the ship. As things were falling into place, two of the deckhands decided the risk was too high, and they didn't want to go anymore. Robert Smalls told them they could leave. and he hoped that they wouldn't say anything to anyone. Hannah Smalls arrived to the planter with her daughter and infant son. It wasn't uncommon for the wives of enslaved crew members to come visit the ships in the evenings.
but they had to be home before curfew or risk being caught and punished by slave patrols. The families of the other crew members began to arrive too, and Robert outlined the plan for everyone. They had made the decision that if something happened and they were caught, they were going to kill themselves. They lined the bottom of the boat with dynamite. And, you know, they made that decision that it was either going to be freedom or it was going to be death for them. Around 3 a.m. on May 13th...
The crew began adding wood to the fires and had to wait for the boilers to get hot enough to produce steam. Finally, it was time to go. The crew raised the ship's flags. First, the Confederate flag, and then the state flag of South Carolina. And then Robert took command of the ship. And he donned the straw top hat. that the Confederate captain of the planter used to wear, and this long overcoat. He had studied the gait of the Confederate captain.
And he sailed out and he knew all of the passcodes that he had to execute with the whistle to get by, I think there were five forts there, and sailed out. They sailed past Confederate guard boats, guard stations, and forts. They had to move at a slow pace so that nothing would appear out of the ordinary. One of the planter's engineers, an enslaved man named Alfred Gordine, later said, I was taken so weak that I could hardly stand. He remembered that everyone on board was terrified.
except for Robert Smalls. If he lost his nerve for a single minute, no one noticed it, he said. At one point, Robert Smalls was said to have saluted a passing boat with a whistle. Another time, as they passed a towboat, he yelled out to its captain something about the fog. Gordine remembered that Robert Smalls kept the steamer right on its course.
And when they passed the Confederate stronghold, Fort Sumter, Robert Smalls saluted it with a whistle and then added an extra one, quote, as a farewell to the Confederacy. As Robert Smalls navigated the planter out of the port of Charleston, he thought that if he could continue impersonating the ship's captain until they were out of range of the Confederate cannons, they might be safe.
He knew that there was a fleet of Union ships further out in the waters off Charleston, and he planned to approach them and ask for help. Once he believed he was beyond the range, he veered south to this. Union blockade. And he started sailing toward the USS Onward, which was the lead boat in the federal... blockade there outside the mouth and um one of the you know robert was very careful knew all the details had planned everything except there was one detail that he had forgotten and
Here it is. At this point, it was probably, I don't know, maybe four or five o'clock in the morning. Maybe the sun was just starting. Early light was just starting to peak over the horizon. And here is this large, one of the largest boats in the harbor with this enormous Confederate flag sailing toward... the USS onward to the federal blockade and so obviously that could have created quite
a problem. But luckily, Robert's wife Hannah, my great-great-grandmother, had thought to sew together some white sheets. And so they quickly lowered the Confederate flag, raised the white... flag of surrender as they approached the USS onward. And as they approached the onward, as the stories go, the Union, the military folks who were manning... the the onward there were just in amazement as you know this large boat comes with this uh crew of you know of black people
You know, the general conception of what Black people could do was extraordinarily limited. You know, let's remember that a narrative had to be created. for this country to do the things that it did to enslave people. The narrative was that they were less than human, that they were not intelligent, that they were beasts, that they were violent, aggressive, all these kinds of things. And so...
You know, at this point, here is this enormous Confederate boat coming with this crew of enslaved people. It just, you know, it shocked not only the officers and the... the folks from the union there, but it made enormous news up and down the East Coast. And they were free. Robert Smalls reportedly said to the captain of the Onward, I'm delivering this war material, including these cannons. I think Uncle Abraham Lincoln can put them to good use.
I've often thought, like, as they were stepping off the planter and onto the onward, just what must they have felt? I mean, it was common. I'm sure every enslaved person... uh in the in the country dreamed at one point or another of being free but how many actually have the opportunity to actually do something about that and robert you know he had the audacity really to
to do this. And, you know, he was free. And again, I mean, just what they must have felt as they stepped their first steps of freedom onto this Union boat, it just must have been incredible. You won't be surprised that the story was received differently in the North than it was in the South. In the North, Robert was really, the story was... uh was was enormous news it was great news it was joyous this you know robert was taken to the north and
There were parades and huge celebrations for him up and down the East Coast, Washington, Philadelphia, New York, Boston. And he was really received as a hero. He was one of the first real heroes of the Civil War. Obviously in the South, there was a little bit of a different reception. You know, there was a bounty put on his head. He was persona non grata. He had really embarrassed.
the confederacy because again that the conception was was that you know enslaved people black people were akin to beasts of burden in terms of their ability to think strategically and to you know, just to execute sort of high-level kinds of reasoning and thinking and planning. And so Robert really called all of that into question. We'll be right back. A few months later, Robert Smalls traveled to Washington and met with President Lincoln in person. The story of what Robert Smalls had done
is partly credited with persuading President Lincoln to allow African Americans to enlist in the Union Army. And Robert Smalls went back to South Carolina to serve as a naval pilot. He had this unique ability to envision realities for himself, to think about things, to dream about things, to actually make those things happen for himself. But then...
to extend those things to his family and then to fight for others to do that. And so he did that in this instance. He actually went back into the crucible of the war, back into the heart of things.
and worked with the Union as the pilot of this boat, the planter, the same vessel that he used to... to free himself and so he moved back to to the low country here of south carolina And to make a long story short, Robert became the first African American to command a United States naval vessel as a result of some heroics. that he executed there fighting for the Union during the Civil War. That must have been, I mean, the fact that he, to sail this ship.
that he had once been forced to work on now as the commander of it. I can't imagine the thought of that. Yeah, I think there was real poetry to it, to be honest. I mean, he did... spectacular things. And it was at a time when there was a lot to be done. And so he, you know, he stepped up and did a lot.
Robert Smalls bought the house on Prince Street in Beaufort, where he and his mother had once been enslaved. And so he lived there, he and Hannah, my great-great-grandmother, and others lived there. And after the Civil War, the wife of his former master... came to the house. She was both physically and mentally ill. And she thought she was going home. She thought she was going to her house. She's old and infirmed. And Robert could have...
responded in a number of different ways. This was the woman who had owned him as a piece of property, who had defined his life. as a piece of chattel in so many different ways, but yet he embraced her and brought her in and cared for her. And even though, for example, she wouldn't eat at the table with them, you know.
just cared for her, allowed her to live. And so to me, that story just touches me because, you know, he could have slammed the door in her face, you know, literally and figuratively. And he didn't. The Civil War began its end on April 9, 1865. When Union soldiers entered Charleston, the first soldiers to arrive were African American.
Many of them had been forced to work in the city earlier in their lives, and now they'd returned to liberate it. The period known as Reconstruction attempted to bring the southern states back into the Union, and attempted to correct the inequities of slavery. When Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, the Reconstruction effort was left in the hands of Vice President Andrew Johnson, who'd said, White men alone must manage the South.
He wrote legislation to create the first public school system for the state of South Carolina. which is often said to be the first free compulsory statewide public school system in the country. He was elected to the South Carolina House and Senate, and was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, where he served numerous terms. By 1877, about 2,000 African American men had held public office in former Confederate states. Over the decades to come...
State governments dialed back the rights and freedoms African Americans had been granted during Reconstruction. Jim Crow laws, legalized segregation, Confederate monuments, began to be installed across the country.
not just in the South. And Robert Smalls watched as opportunities for equality were taken away, one after another. I think about just the... the struggles that he must have experienced as Reconstruction was dying, as we were going back to a period where African Americans, Black people, had little to no rights. were stripped of their ability to vote, to participate in society in a meaningful way. And he had been out there as one of the major...
personalities, the major really warriors around justice throughout his life. And so I can only imagine that he must have been just completely disheartened. There are quotes of his from one of the last constitutional conventions, I think the last one that he participated in, that actually put the Jim Crow laws into effect and sort of recast society back as in sort of a white supremacist sort of a mold and uh you know he he's one of the quotes that he said was
My race needs no special defense, for the past history of them in this nation leads everyone to believe that they can compete with anyone, anywhere. All they need is an equal chance in the battle of life. That line is engraved on a statue of Robert Smalls that sits in the cemetery of the Tabernacle Baptist Church in Beaufort. He's buried there. and a marker describes how he liberated himself and his family on May 13, 1862. Is May 13 a special day for your family?
That is a great question because for me, I always acknowledge it as my personal independence day. You know, of course, July 4th is a national independence day. And, you know, look, I think as an African-American. One could always question the relevance of that day because, you know, on July 4th, 1776 or, you know, the relevance of that Independence Day.
you know, it really didn't have any relevance for people of African descent who were enslaved. Frederick Douglass has an amazing speech about that day. But for my family, May 13th. Yeah, it is our Independence Day. It is the day that we commemorate when Robert sort of pulled this plan together. and executed it with boldness, with aplomb, with audacity, and won his freedom. So yeah, that's a very important day.
You know, as white people like me think about history, and think about what stories are celebrated and taught in school, stories of bravery, stories of... fighting for your independence and what stories you aren't taught. You know, I'm struck that I've never heard of Robert Smalls, a man who really accomplished what seems to be just... Such a such a big feat. I agree. I mean, I always I grew up.
Outside of Boston and I got a very New England centric view of history pretty much that if it didn't happen north of say Washington DC It really wasn't important and of course that's ridiculous, but I also as I got older I came to realize that history is less of a literal recitation of what happened and much more of a tool of a sort of social...
construction. It's, you know, history is, you know, they say is told by the victor. And I think that's true. I mean, Robert, first of all, he was persona non grata, as mentioned in the South. And so... Even here in Charleston, South Carolina, in the city where, you know, he started his historical sort of a career, let's say, his story is still somewhat muted. And of course, someone like Paul Revere, we learn about
so often. And I remember as a young child thinking, yeah, well, you know, that was cool what he did. That was cool. But that wasn't like, you know, what Robert Smalls did, you know, so. And again, obviously, I couldn't be more biased. But yeah. I think it's an amazing story. It's an amazing American story. If we can be broad enough to consider that African American history is in fact American history, then this... is among the best of them in my view.
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