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thank you guys all for supporting us. And with that, I guess it's time to dive in. Okay. So this story was written by someone I really respect and her name is Rachel Stiller, and she did an amazing job on this story. I did research and follow up on it and she it's amazing. And with that, we're gonna we're gonna start. Okay. Being a parent is obviously a rewarding job, and being a parent of an only child can often create a very special bond because you have just one child.
I just have one child, that's right, and she's like your bff. Right. Uh. Their child was doted on, spoiled by the parents in the grandparents, and she usually got everything that she needed. She was the only child of Clay and Sheila Fletcher, and her name was Lacey. And this is the story of Lacey Fletcher. She had a very comfortable lifestyle. They lived in a town called Slaughter, Louisiana. Oh, I say, it sounds lovely, but it doesn't. But it place maybe maybe why did
I I don't know how. Hey, let's name this town Slaughter. I know I'm always confused when they have weird names. But well, the question becomes what happens when parents go from spoiling a child rotten to letting the child rots? Oh, come antlea, really, this is bad. This bad. Her ones caring parents ended up no glackeninger. But let's get into Lacey's life. Lacey Ellen Fletcher was born on Monday. It was a Monday before
Thanksgiving in November. It was the twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five, to the proud parents of Clay and Sheila Fletcher, the new family of three. They resided in the small bedroom community of Slaughter, which I told you guys all about Slaughter, and that is located in the east Blentcia Valencia Parish of Louisiana. Slaughter is a suburb of It's a suburb of Baton Rouge, okay,
I mean, and that's the state capitol. When Lacey was roughly nine years old, her family moved across town into a two story ranch style home and it's in a gravel cul de sac in a very affluent area. It was a nice area to live in and Lacey was ecstatic. The neighbors there had children her age. She had people to play with. She's in a nice area. Things are going good. And then you know, she had
her classmates. She had a new school. Her classmates described her as being a nice, caring person who always made a point to be friendly with the new students. She was one of those people, always nice to the new kids. I loved kids like that. And she went to a place called Brownfield Baptist Academy. The Fletcher family also regularly attended a Baptist church and that was in a nearby town called Zachary, where Lacy was part of the youth
group. So you know, she's nine, she's ten, she's got friends, she's living in a good area, she's in a youth group. She was on the volleyball team in nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety eight, and I mean that was one of her favorite hobbies. She loved volleyball. But Lacy had anxiety and she had later been diagnosed with autism. As she got older, her friends made note of several differences in her personality, like compared
to other kids that age. One classmate described Lacey and this is a quote, not your typical teenager, because she liked children's things, not teenage things. The other children noticed that Lacey did not seem as mature as they were, so developmentally, she was becoming behind as far as emotionally, okay, And there were subtle changes in her personality too. Lacey seemed to become more withdrawn, and when she was about fourteen, this is about ninth grade,
friends realized that Lacey saw she got diagnosed with autism. So she's fourteen and severe social thingsnxiety. Those that have never had a social anxiety disorder or a social phobia, it's this intense fear of situations that are unfamiliar to you, and you feel like you're going to be watched or judged, and so your heart races and you become really, really anxious these situations. Like all of us get a little bit of social anxiety, right, but we still go
in, we still meet with people. But hers became extreme. It got to the point where she would avoid any social situation and she would go to make up every excuse possible to avoid it, which we have done before to avoid going to them. And it only worsened when they diagnosed her with ODDS. I simply put, autism, as most probably know, is a neurological and developmental disorder that affects how people interact with others, how they communicate,
learn and behave. And it seemed as though as Lacy got older, these conditions became more extreme for her. It doesn't necessarily affect your intelligence, no, no, no, no, it's just how you process the world around you, right, Yeah, and yeah, exactly. She met with a psychologist for about three years to help treat her, and she only seemed to get worse. At this point, her parents claimed Sheila made the decision to
homeschooler because I think school in and of itself became to a ship. But she's just her anxieties were high school, having to change classes, so it's unfamiliar people in every well, not necessarily all of them are unfamiliar to much. It's just too much for her, so she becomes somewhat of a reclusive
person. Friends and neighbors began seeing less and less of Lazy outside of the Fletcher home after she began after she was homeschooled, like they basically never didn't see her because now she has no excuse to leave the house right right, She doesn't have volleyball anymore, she doesn't have all of this. Clay and Sheila explained to people that were really concerned about Lazy that she had extreme social anxiety and that her autism had progressed, and they that seemed to pacify their
friends worries as to why they weren't seeing Lacy anymore. Clay and Sheila continued about their normal lives. The Fletcher couple will call them we're thought to be church going pillars of the community. Okay, Okay, there's nobody seeing lazy. Clay actually held the office of the president of the Baton Rouge Civil War Roundtable. Oh wow, something you've been trying to achieve for years. Sorry. Wow. It is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to educate in foster
and appreciation for the sacrifices made during the Civil War. So those the war is actually really interesting. I am I mean, I am totally into. Yeah, it's really interesting in our country. Yeah, yeah, American Civil War. Yeah. Sheila served for four years as an elder person okay in the town of Slaughter before resigning in February of twenty twenty two. Maybe it's like their former city council. Maybe maybe I don't know. I don't know. I'm just pulling out of my ass. I don't know. I should
have sent it up too before I said anything. She also served as Slaughter's mayor pro term in conjunction with working as an assistant to the Slaughter City prosecutor. Okay, she's way involved, way involved city politics. Yeah. I don't know how I can be an assistant to the prosecutor without being an attorney. I don't know what the rules are in Louisiana. I don't know what they do in their but they wouldn't they do have different than that wouldn't work
here. Yeah. No. She also worked as needed as a police and court clerk and then nearby town of Baker, Louisiana. She's got her finger in the pie everywhere, everywhere. Man. They were very consistent in being part of the community and were deeply respected by everyone. It was only a few close friends in long time, long time neighbors that noticed the couple never spoke anymore about their once vibrant daughter, Lacey. It's been years, red
flag years years. Years. When asked about Lacy's while being the parents would reply that she's doing fine and she still lives at home with them, but you know, she's got that social anxiety and autism, which I believe she, I mean she had. After hearing that Lacey was still living under the Fletcher's roof, neighbors realize it's been fifteen years since we've seen Lacey. Fifteen years. Fifteen fucking years. Wow. Wow, Oh time goes by, Yeah, like, oh, it's a blink of an eye. Fifteen years.
That's suspicious. Where was Lacey the whole time? You know? And they're like, Okay, I get she's got problems. Doesn't she go to the dentist? Doesn't she go to see her in fifteen Yes, she's not going to be in the house every single day of her life for fifteen years. You have to go out at some point to get treatments, what you know. So people started asking questions and then her parents eventually said that she kind of moved out of town. Oh, she just up and moved moved
out of town and that was the reason for her absence. I mean she went to live on her own. Someone has severe social anxiety. Okay. Unfortunately, Lacey's true location would soon no longer be a mystery. The community, the state, nation, in the world would be aware of where thirty six year old Lacey Ellen Fletcher was. And it is not a good It is not good. This is bad, guys, warning you, this is
bad. On Monday, January the third of twenty twenty two, so this is recent, this is recent, at approximately two thirty am, the Slaughter Police Department received a call about an unresponsive person in the home on Tom Drive, which is where Clay and Sheila lived. Sheila had called nine one one and stated that she'd found her daughter unresponsive on the family's couch. Sheila and her husband Clay had just returned home from a weekend get away. They were
on a vacation that night before she made the call. Sheila told the dispatcher that the last time she saw her daughter was around ten PM when they got home from their little trip, and the previous night she was alive and she was well, but now she's unresponsive. A neighbor had visited the Fletcher home
and urged Sheila to call nine one one. That's the reason why she looked called nine one one is a neighbor came over and said, you got to call nine one one because the reason is this neighbor saw lady, and I'm just gonna describe what she saw. She was on the family's nineteen sixty style leather couch. This gets me very upset because this is a very upsetting story. At first, responders arrived to the scene and the Fletcher's home was neat,
it was tidy. They found Clay and Sheila sitting on the at the kitchen table, just you know, waiting for them, with their dead daughter on the couch. The couple offered no explanation for the horrific smell in the family home. Okay, and what they had just discovered before this is so bad time, so bad, you guys. Emergency personnel quickly noticed that there was one area of the Fletcher home that was not as tighty as the rest
of the house, and that was where the stench was coming from. The partially nude and deceased body of Lacey was sitting upright in a shoulder deep deep in a hole on the couch. The hole was in the couch. Okay. The East Lanciana Parrish Corner's office was contacted, and immediately once authorities began to investigate, they realized, wait, this situation, it's really serious. Investigators discovered that Lacey was severely emaciated, she weighed ninety six pounds and was
I can't I'm having a hard time. Guy's gotta cope with me. She was covered with rodent feces and multiple live insects, including maggots. Oh this is gonna get really bad. Fecey's was seen smeared on her face, her chest, her abdomen, and there were numerous insect bites found all over her
body, East Lanciana Corner. Doctor Bickman is his name. BAM reported that Lacey's body was nestled in a hole on that couch okay, because it had been worn away through the upholstery and the foam of the couch cushions by Lacey's own waste and her body fluids. Oh no, oh, are you serious. The scene had been described as if Lacy had melted or refused to the couch. Okay, Hold on a second, he's a guy, okay,
So how long m hmm was she actually in that spot? Oh? My god, to be used and elt and melted into to erode the sofa and her parents just went on vacation. Yeah, they just Okay. The floor beneath the cloud the couch where Lacy had laid had begun to buckle due to the collection of urine pieces the fuck dude, Okay. Doctor Bickham explained that the smell of the scene was so horrendous he had to excuse himself to the front yard to vomit. Okay, Now, you know that's bad. He's
a medical example. You know that's bad. That's bad when he has to vomit. I mean, you know, he's seen some ship too. He's seen lots of ship. Oh, no, this is bad, It's very sad. The parish district attorney, his name was Sam doc Kwala. The aquila, I don't know. He described the scene by stating, it's smelled of rot. We don't even treat animals like this. It has been suspected that Lacy remained on the couch and in the same position for the last twelve
years. Twelve years. Yes, she was never moved to eat, exercise or go to the bathroom. That is cruel, sneethat I twelve years? Did they like channer to the couch? I'll get to all that. Doctor Bickham recorded Lacey's official time of death at three oh seven am on Monday, January third, twenty twenty two. Do you know how much suffering? Oh she had to have gone through? Yeah. Absolutely. He believed that Lacey had been dead for at least twenty four hours, if not forty eight hours,
before the authorities were even notified. Yeah. During her autopsy. Sorry. During Lacey's autopsy, material from the couch and human waste were found inside he's stomach. Doctor Bickham concluded that Lacey had been consuming pieces of the foam from the couch and her own feces in an effort to pro the feat herself. Multiple severe ulcers were found on the underside of her body as you can imagine right, including her feet, the buttocks, and some moons were so
severe that they had rotten to the bone. Oh my god, she was in severe pain. Severe for this stage, four pressure ulcers had to be present, and they would have been constant pressure in the area for years to get to the point where you have bone. Oh my goodness. Lacy's hair was matted, nodded, and infested with maggots, although it's unclear how she was exposed. Lacy was also tested positive for COVID nineteen. I don't know it's time of her death. Wow, she must have got it from a
parents, obviously, Yeah, your parents. Doctor Bickham stated that Lacy's death was the result of numerous years of medical neglect and ruled the manner of death homicide. In thirty years of being a doctor, he stated that the scene was the worst he'd ever been to, adding, and this is a quote. I could not eat for a week. I cried for a week. Okay, it's bad. It's a medical examiner I know the medical examiner.
I seen everything. Wow, they seen everything. They seen everything. Her official cause of death was death's done from severe medical neglects, which led to chronic malnutrition, acute starvation, immobility, acute ulcar formation, and assiomlitis, which is a bone infection that leads to septus or septis. Oh God, Lisa had not had medical attention since twenty ten, which would have been twelve years before her death. And Clay and Sheila, they were her soul caregivers,
right. They never sought help for her. They never took her any place, They never did anything for lazy. Shela claimed that she would frequently clean Lacey's various wounds and that Lacey never once complained about anything. I find that really hard to believe, really hard to believe. Her parents claim that Lacy refused to leave her seat on the couch. I also find that really hard to believe. I was just gonna say, you're not going to get
up and use the bathroom? No, because you know what, you're the parents, and you're gonna make her get up, and you're gonna make her go in the bathroom. She's an adult. And if you can't do it. You call professionals that will help you. That's bullshit. I called bullshit on them. Called bullshit. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's basic human. They said they would bring Lacey meals on the couch and sometimes provide her with a bedside toilet for her use. She said, they said that she refused
to use that toilet. I mean, if it was twelve years, she had to be like twenty four when this started, and your twenty four year old? Okay, And I understand she has autism, okay, okay, but she went to school, she was a functioning ball team. Yeah, she was a normal person. And there no, no, she did not require that type of care. Get help for your kid. I means that bad. She could physically do everything. And I really find you, Yeah, this case, I find this. There. I guess that's what they
have to say because the truth is disgusting. They considered moving her to a mental or a medical facility. No, instead let her ride away on the car, but they said she she wouldn't cooperate. Oh okay, well there you go. Well, and I guess we're just going to let you rot on our how yes? Okay? And did they never have friends over we tried. They never anybody over at their house. Apparently not right, and
where what about grandma and grandpa and auntson? Where's this whole story? Is just fucking with me anyway, So no action was taken because the parents said she refused to cooperate. So there you go, I mean, can't get her to do it. In the state of Louisiana, if a patient like Lacey refuses treatment, the person's legal representative can request that she before too.
Just like here, it's called involuntarily committed. So despite their saying, oh, Lacey, Lacy wouldn't cooperate, they could have saved her, They could have done something. They but they were adamant, you're ready for this, okay. They were adamant that she was of sound in mind to make her own type of decisions, and that they were okay with those decisions assuming she made them. She was fine, Yeah, she was fine. She just
didn't feel like getting up off the couch for twelve fucking years. I'm wow. They said she suffered from a condition called locked in syndrome, okay, which is a rare disorder of the nervous system. But if that's true, get her fucking hop Yeah, give her some medical home, give some fucking help. People with locked in syndrome are usually paralyzed except for muscles that control eye movement. Okay, okay, these individuals are conscious, they're aware,
and they have the ability to think and a reason and absolutely talk. Yeah. So they're saying she was paralyzed, so she couldn't walk, she couldn't probably were they feeding her? Apparently not that much. So she's paralyzed. Okay, you have a family member. How is she moving enough to eat her the couch? Yeah? Like, oh, you're right, that's right, and her own feces, she's able to move. Let's not forget that.
Yeah, that's right, Thank you for reminding me. Yeah, I mean, but you have a family member that this happens to, you're just gonna let them sit on the couch and not get them any type of house. It's Lacey's choice. Yeah, she's being really difficult. And how is she being so difficult? They can't carry her out of the house if she's and how are they tending to her wounds when they go to her bone? Right? Well, the story is gonna make you really mad. Okay,
let's move on. Okay, So traditionally they're unable to move or speak, but are still able to communicate through blinking movements. Have you ever read the book? Was it The Bullet and the Butterfly or is that that on by oh By Smashing Companies butterfly wings or something? A bullet with butter the book, but the guy I have it, I'm sorry I read it. He is locked in syndrome. He used to work for a magazine and he describes what it is. He couldn't do anything but blink. And he wrote a
book. Okay, oh in real life the author, Yeah, okay, he wrote a book. Wow, it's gonna kill me to it'll come to you something with wings, butterfly wings. That's locked in syndrome. Okay, I mean he's locked in. But he wrote a book, but he had to have it through blinking. There was a computer and someone would do like point to a B and then you blink. Oh wow, yes, so he didn't write a book, yeah, normal way. He couldn't move. That's locked in syndrome. Okay, where was I at? Because I'm getting
all fired up. I'm all fired up right now. The medical examiner said Lacey didn't have the syndrome, and he only listed what he knew, which was from the medical records autism and social anxiety. Okay. While under investigation, Clay and Sheila Fletcher were not immediately charged with Sheila's death Lacey's death. Sorry, that's Lacy's death. Sorry, I'm getting on told you, I'm getting all worked up here. I need to take a second to breathe,
yeah, Shela. Soon after Lacey's death, Sheila posted on Facebook a post that read quote, mom and Dad love you so much. This message stunned a lot of family and friends because they were in like, what the far kind of shit happened? Clays supervisor, his name was John Potts, had known Clay for six years. His name was John told investigators the details are horrific, There's no doubt about that. And I cannot conceive how something like
that could even happen with somebody I knew. Yeah, even somebody I don't know, Jordan Club. I can't conceive that this happens. Clay had only mentioned briefly in passing in January of that year that he had a daughter to John, and he told he told John, his supervisor, that his daughter lived out of town. So there you GOE knowing You've done something wrong because you're telling people your daughter lives out of town. Some neighbors of the Fletchers
didn't even know that Clay and Sheila had a daughter. Mean, how would they? It was only the long like longtime neighbors that knew Clay and Sheila's family would have noticed Lacey's absence in family outings. Right, Yeah, you think Clay had two sisters, two brothers, a brother in law, sister in law. She led two sisters, They had a whole family. Blah blah blah. This family would would consist of all the cousins and of Lacey,
and everybody would bring their kids. It's unclear when the family was questioned what they really knew, except that Lacey was being well cared for and was very reclusive, so she didn't want to come. Yeah, she didn't want to come. They trusted that Clay and Sheila were you know, Yeah, because you don't think your fucking family members are letting their child ride away on a couch. I mean, it's disgusting. You don't want to Okay,
I'm all fired up too. Sorry, you can continue. And obviously they had not been invited over to the Fletcher's House in many, many years. Both Clay and Sheila were forced to leave their jobs, probably because all their coworkers thought they were fucking disgusting animals. Ye right. Clay resigned from his his position as president of the Civil War Roundtable in Baton Rouge, and his supervisor, John stated that he was unsure at the time if Clay would ever
be welcome back. I must say no. Sheila was put on ministry or leave and no longer worked for the city prosecutor and zactly, so they're waiting for more facts to come out, Like what more facts do they need? Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna tell you what I mean. I'm gonna tell you, Okay. In April of twenty twenty two, just four months after Lacy's death, the Fletchers still had not formally been
charged with neglect, not even neglect. Not even neglect, which is like the lowest on the to the district's attorney, Sam quote, I don't know intended to bring second degree murder charges against them? What the fuck is he waiting for? Because you are on fires. She doesn't normally talk like this. What the fuck is he waiting? What do your goddamn job, but
he acknowledges is extremely complicated. H He said, the second degree murder is a charge is proper because he believes the parents of Lacey and Fletcher intended to kill her. In us sense, you can't leave someone rotting to the bone, with maggots in their hair, starving to death, go on vacation should and expect them to be fine. I mean, why didn't they just kill her? Honestly, and they just smother her something? Why do they let
that smothering your child? But she believes that they went on that trip because they knew, because they knew she was dying, and they didn't want to be there let her die alone too. You know what? This is so fucking sad. I'm just people never I mean, they constantly amazed me at the I just I can't, I can't, I can't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Continue please. Clay and Sheila weren't considered a flight risk, and that's I think that's part of the reason they weren't quickly charged, because
I didn't believe they're going anywhere. He said. The question on everybody's mind is, quote, how could they be caretakers living in the same house with her? And have her get into a condition like that. This is cruelty to the infirm. We can't just let it sit and do nothing. So they were arrested finally, Yeah, it got deferred. I'm not going to go into all that. Grand jury determined charges were warranted against parents. It's a lot, it's a lot more complex because they did just let her rat.
But she's also an adult. Okay, So the district attorney told news outlets on a murder, you have to have intent. Did they want to kill her? I want to say, yeah, they wanted to kill her, which is pretty and it's different than the glad They wanted her to die. They sure took the worst possible way. So the grand jury, this is like shit you see in a movie. Gran jury, I told you second degree murdered charges against Clay and Sheila, And it took five months for
them to be arrested on these charges. And the mandatory sentence is life in prison with no possibility rule huh for a second degree mm hmm, wow, right, that's pretty So the grand jury saw photos, Oh man, I forgot about having to look at photos of the condition of Lazy and how she's been found, and the members of the grand jury were so horrified by these images. Medics had to be brought in on standby because of the shock of the photos. Oh oh, man, I mean the medical examiner did say,
it's the worst he's ever seen in his head. He had to go out and queue. Yeah, and he had to go ce so I can I can only imagine. So they were indicted, like I said, second degree murder for the death of their daughter. Their bond was set at three hundred thousand each. Feels kind of low, but okay. Sheila was released on bond at ten thirty that day. Clay was forced to stay the night in jail, but he was released by ten am. Someone posted bond for
them. Oh, they used a bondman and their assets and they had money. Yeah whatever whatever. Court case got delayed for a while and Lacy's parents still maintained that they were absolutely not guilty. There was an attorney to represent both of them, which the same attorney represented both of them. Yeah, don't do that, that's a bad idea. They didn't want to relieve, to relive the pain of losing the child through the media. They've been through
a lot of heartache over the years. Anyone who lost a child, knows what it feels like, and he was saying that that was I don't know, that's just a quote. I don't know why he said it. There were multiple indictments. They've been through, They've been through so much, through so fucking much. Kazireas wasn't rotten on a couch, rotting on a couch. I'm so disgusted with these people. So their attorney fouled the motion on twenty twenty three, didn't miss the charges filed and some Um, I'm not
going to go through all that. If you tell me they don't go to jail, I'm gonna fucking go off. Hoscutters had inadvertently used the language in the indictment referencing cruelty to the elderly and not to the infirm. Oh no, which caused the charges to be thrown out. Why did I Why did I know? Okay? Why did I know that you were gonna say some shit like that? Okay? Oh go on, you bet it. Somebody better fix that goddamn motion. Yeah, there was a second indictment. Okay,
they were reindicted. That was on Monday, June nineteenth of twenty twenty three. They turned themselves into the police. They were granted bonds. The district attorney said, we will ensure that there's justice for lazy and I will proofread everything that gets filed from now on. Right now I'll be doing Somebody lost their job over that one, and the public knows that caregivers will be charged for neglecting or abusing a person in their care. I have not I
have not much, but I have a little compassion for them. But I think we have to send a message. We need to take care of your people better then you do your animals. Oh, you need to take care of your people better than you do your animals. I just want people to recognize if you have a situation like that, to take action. Lacy's death was a crime against humanity. Yeah. I hope the endamond brings some spotlight to victims of this type of crime. There's second degree murder trial doesn't start
to this year. Oh they're still in jail. No, they're out on bond. Right, they're out on bond. What the hell do you have two parents? I mean, I I just I'm sure they had a hard time. Yeah, okay, but no, no, no, no, no, there are parents that have disabled children who grow into disabled adults that they have to take care of or that they seek help, like for care for their children. I mean, she, as far as I know,
she did not have any physical disabilities, you know. I mean if you guys in syndrome, you don't people with locked in syndrome don't just sit on a fucking couch. You had to be in a hospital, like you had to get like breathing. Two yeah stuff. I mean, and she's not being cared for, like four Okay, let's say she doesn't say lock in syndrome and she won't get up off the couch. You're just letting her like rot yeah right there floor, like not giving not even caring for her that
way. I mean, they make adult sized you know, dips and things that people can use. I mean they're not they're not even giving her the basic care. Plus she's malnutrition mag they couldn't take the magic, starving to death. I mean, this is just fucking disgusting. I just couldn't even take the maggots off. No, even though she can't move, you madded, so she's not even getting her hair brushed. Just how do these people
live with themselves? This is your child, This is worse than I think almost any serial killer story that we've done is so And there's some some sick bastards out there that have tortured and done horrible things to people. I think this has to rank right up there, because this is just so sad. I just I'm I I feel like I'm gonna cry when I leave here today. You and I are going because this is just sad. It's just sad and disgusting. And these people there's no excuse, No, there really is
no excuse. I mean, it helped. This is modern twenty twenty two. Okay, let's say it's happened in twenty ten. This is modern times. People get your child some help. They didn't want to spend the money. I mean, what is really their excuse? What is the they wouldn't because she's an adult, she could get medicators? You know, yeah, Stapa, I mean, what is your true excuse? Don't give a fuck? I mean, fuck, you want to stay in the couch? You
want you want somebody to rot in your living room? And how did she how did she say she wanted to stay in the couch? Blinking? I just I can't mad, and I can't talk about it. Anymore. Yeah, I'll shut up now. I could rant on for another hour. We will. I'm not going to bore you with my rants because you're probably pissed as well if you've gotten this far into the story. Okay, anyway, well, anyway, let's just let's take a second and just honor her.
Yes, she's in a better place. Had to be in about it has to be in a better place. Right, that's poor. That poor woman suffered horribly, and I'm glad her suffering is over. That's the only thing I can say. And I want to thank Rachel Stiller for writing. Yeah, thanks Rachel. She did a lot of research, and it is hard to research this stuff and then write it. You get emotionally. Yeah, there's been times we've had to put I've had to put stories aside. You've
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These fuckers are out just living their lives. God bless it. Anyway, Okay, well anything else, No, I think you covered everything. So until our next episode, don't kill each other. Bye bye,