This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. Listener discretion is advised. Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm Tanya, and together we are Crimes and Consequences, a true crime podcast. Hi Tanya, Hi Talia. Welcome back everybody to this week's episode of Crimes and Consequences. If you haven't done so already, we're gonna ask you very kindly to hit the subscribe slash follow whatever
button you got going on on your favorite app. And with that, as you can probably tell, I have a very stuffed up nose, So I'm gonna do my best to not like I've stopped up nose, but get through this. Okay, Yeah, it's a good story. Have you ever heard of William Devin Howell. No, well, he's the most one of the most prolific serial killers in the state of Connecticut is a tiny little state. It is lovely. Yes, he killed seven women. So I'm gonna give
you some background on how he became this monster that he is. William was born on February eleventh, in nineteen seventy in Hampton, Virginia, to what was described as a good family and a good home. Oh yeah, what went wrong? I'm glad you asked. Let me tell you. His parents were married until his mom died, and like I said, they didn't have a broken home. He was the youngest of four children, so he had two brothers, and two of his brothers were a lot older than him.
One brother was serving in Vietnam the time William was born, so I mean he had to be like at least eighteen years older than him. Unfortunately, with a matriarch or the family dying in early fifties from brass cancer, this really hurt the family and William was only twelve at the time. His mother was a one that provided that sense of stability. She kept him in line like most mothers do, and she also protected him because he was the baby
of the family. Oh it sounds like he might have been the oops. I mean, you got an eighteen year old. Can you imagine like eighteen years go by? And I mean he's older than that, but still anyway, the mom is the one that kept William in line, and unlike money serial killers, he never experienced any sort of head trauma, molestation, anything really traumatic except I mean, yes, and he didn't like kill animals or anything like that. I mean, we always hear about killer starting out like
killing squirrels or something and then working in a way to humans. But none of that happened with William. He seemed to have a relatively normal childhood, and he grew up in the seventies. Every aspect of his early life seemed to be completely normal. When William was fourteen years old, he stole his father's car in the middle of the night. He drove to the red light district. Oh, I didn't know there was one in Connecticut or Virginia.
Maybe he's still in Virginia either way, I didn't know. Purchase native, I guess. And that's when he picked up his first sex worker. He's fourteen, he's fourteen. Yeah, where do you get the money? I don't know. I'd like to mow and lawns. I don't know. This behavior would continue until he got caught by the police. William started drinking in high school, and he would started drinking before school even started. He only had his driver's license for a year and a half before he got a drunk
driving Oh shit. Yeah. Unfortunately for William, by the time he was twenty, he was a habitual offender, and this is just horrible. He had grape fantasies when he was twenty, before he was twenty and ascent years. Oh my god. And he spoke about it a gross He told people about it. Can you imagine? He said, quote tonight is the night I made my fantasy come true. He crossed that line and said that he was unable to control his urges anymore. It wasn't something driving him to do
these terrible things, but quote, I chose to do it. I chose to do what I did and not to care. Oh damn. He was like, I don't give a full yeah. Serious. He started messing up his entire life while in Virginia, so he still is in Virginia. William said, quote, I started screwing up my life through drinking. And I served half of the nineties in jail or prison in Virginia. And it was
all for driving a car without a license and drunk driving. And it instilled a lot of bitterness in me. I would became very angry and sad. She should be angry with himself. Well he should, but now we're going to be angry at because you're a dumbass. He decided to relocate from Virginia to Connecticut. He needed that fresh start. He blended in with society while in Connecticut, so apparently he could fake it, fake it, and he started his own lawn care business. So I told you it was cutting grass
to go to the red hot district. The neighbors knew him as Devin or just simply the guy next door. William was kind of heavy set and he stood about five foot nine inches. He had long blonde hair with a goatee. And I told you before his middle name was Devin, so he's going by Devin and he has Devin tattooed on his bicep case he forgets he got his name his name. By the time William was thirty three years old,
he was married to a really wonderful woman and they had two kids. So he did I mean, he seemed to maybe maybe maybe he's probably doing fucking weird shit when he was married too. Well, yeah, if you're doing weird shit when you're fucking fourteen. There were reports of domestic abuse, so the man and as he was still picking up sex workers of course secretly. Yes, then he began living in his van. Really, yes, he's got a van. Of course he's got a van, a creeper van.
So he's very cliche here now he's now he's become cliche. And that's when his reign of terror started. Christ he had a very binary view on women. There were two type of girls, good girls and bad girls. Good girls were like the mother of his children. They didn't drink, they don't do drugs, they're faithful, and they're really good moms. Those were the good girls. Bad girls were the sex workers. It was as simple as that with William in his mind. I mean, that's just you're either good
or you're bad. The Madonna horror thing, right, and what's that, the Madonna horror syndrome. You're either like Madonna and I don't mean the rack star. Oh, I was gonna say, I don't know if there's a difference. No, like Mother Mary. Okay, there we go. Okay, because I'm like Madonna the singer. No, No, because you know she's got a little bit of a up history. She's living her life in the Free Woman. So I get you, now, Yeah, I get you. You're like you're like a saint. Yeah, exactly. William had
a girlfriend at the time the killings began her name was Dorothy Holham. In fact, he bought the van off her parents for four hundred dollars. He would later refer to this van as the murder mobile. Didn't we have another case where they where they fucking named their van? It was those two guys. I don't remember what they named it the toolbox? Were they the toolbox? Just fucking assholes? This van was blue, was in nineteen eighty five
forward a count of line and it was registered under Dorothy's name. The van had two broken windows that were boarded over with plywood. Are you kidding me? No? And since he was a landscaper, the side of the van read quote quality lawn Service called Devon phone number and shit, I like how he's just like killing people sleeping in this van. He's got his number on it, right, Like, who's gonna be call with boarded up Are you going to call landscaper? They had boarded up windows. Yeah, I would
think twice. And just like you said, the van had his phone number. Now, Dorothy had a daughter named Julianna Helcom. She was six years old when William came into their lives. Juliana knew Devin as a kind hearted giant he'd never heard a soul. Imagine the shock she felt after finding out all the horrific crimes that you don't know about. That, Yeah, because she really adored him. Oh this is really sad. In two thousand and three, Melanie came Melanie. I think that's whw you say? It came
Melanie. That would be Williams's first victim. She was really addicted to opiates. According to Melanie's family, she was really beautiful the inside as well as on the out. When she was younger, she played piano, and she was also the mother of two small children. But then she disappeared. I
mean, her addiction was just as an addiction. She tried really hard to fight it, but she just she couldn't be Her family would come home and see her almost passed out from prescription pills, and they would get mad at her, but they always knew she was an addict, so they would you know, we're always there trying to help her. She eventually became a sex worker, and she hung out around the Berlin Turnpike of Waterbury, Connecticut,
because she knew there she could exchange sex for money. One time, William was driving around in his van sexy blue van with the broken windows, and he drove down the streets and he saw these sex workers. And I told you he was struggling with these rape fantasies. And he knew he could take advantage of these women because they're sex workers and they often don't report anything. Williams saw Melanie and he invited her into his van. When he did,
he knew she would not come out alive. Oh god, but Melan, and he didn't know that. After raping her for twelve hours, kidding me, no Ah, william tried to kill her by bashing a hammer over her head. Yeah, the blow to the head, it didn't even knock her out. So he's doing like one blow and it doesn't knock her out. But mentally she freaked out and she starts begging for her life and William hears her begging, please don't kill me, Please don't kill me. But he
doesn't care. No, he strangles her. She's a bad girl. He thought that would be the quickest way to get her to stop begging and make her quiet. The hammer didn't work, It didn't you know. He tried and it didn't work, so, oh my god. He ended up keeping the ring that Melanie wore, which was just like not worth anything. It was this tarnished ring with a stone in the middle. It was like a
souvenir. He kept it as a souvenir. Later he was asked about the ring, and he said, I kept the ring to remember the night that I stopped being a man and I became a monster symbolic. Yes, he recalled also that Melanie's last words were, please don't kill me. I have children. Oh man, hate him? Yes, what a piece of shit. William later stayed, you know, I almost didn't kill her, but probably because of her begging. But then I felt like I had no choice.
This part is he slapped beside Melanie's dead body for two weeks. Two weeks? Are you what? Two weeks? He had her body in his hand for two weeks and slept next to it. What the fun? I know, what the fuck is that? And reports have stated, and I'm not sure the accuracy, that he cut off her fingertips and pulled some of her teeth out and hit them, so eventually, when you decided to dispose of her body, she wouldn't be able to be identified. I mean,
to William, sex workers were just worthless objects. He had to view each of these women this way in order for him to do what he about he needed to do and live out those rape fantasies. Just despicable. He stated he didn't get any pleasure in killing them because remember, his thing was rape. After the rape and murder of Melanie, Melanie, the rest of the victims were easier. Yeah, I mean, it gets easier, I guess. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know for sure.
I don't know personal experience, but I heard yeah. After Melanie, William decided to go back to Virginia for a few months. But he came back to Connecticut in April two thousand and three and he's driving down the streets of Waterbury, Connecticut. As he's driving, he comes across a sex worker named Marylyn Gonzalez. She was a heavy drug user and a young mother. He invited Marylyn into his van and she climbed in, hoping to earn some
easy money. William, like he did with Melanie, drove around with Maryland for twelve hours while having her tied up and raped her. When he wasn't raping her, she was tied to the back bench of his van and her mouth was tape shut with duct tape. He would just drive around different locations, and he even went through the McDonald's drive through. What yea with her in the back? Yep? Wow, that's ballsy, right, didn't give a fuck? No, he really didn't, he said later a quote.
I'd go through the Mickey D's drive through with a half naked, tied up bitch in the back and told him if they made a sound, it would be their last. And none of them ever did. Wow. William knew what he was doing, he knew what he was doing was wrong, but he didn't care. I mean, he's selfish, he doesn't care. Yeah. He ended up strangling Marylyn and dumping her body into the specific place called the garden. Oh. He would do the same routine with each of his
victims. He would rape, murder them, wrap their bodies in trash bags, and then dump them behind a strip mall in New Britain, Connecticut. What wow, I wonder it's what's behind that strip mall? I feel like I've seen this on like a forensic file show or something. But I could be wrong. I mean a high chance I'm wrong. Janice Roberts Now she was formerly known as Danny Whistant was a transgender woman. She was William's third victim. William would go to this one bar in particular on his off nights,
and it was called the Cadillac Ranch. Once inside, he'd sit at the bar for hours hoping to pick up someone there, and when he had no luck, he would go hit the streets in his van. On this particular night, the bar close at two am, and William, surprised didn't have any luck, and then he saw Janice Roberts on the streets. She had long, thick black hair. She was wearing a short miniskirt and high heels, and William didn't know that Janice was a transgender woman, so he
invites her into his van. She accepts the invitation. He asks her, can you give me a blowjob for twenty dollars and she says yes. William then places his hand on her head and when he goes to pull her hair, he pulls off awake. Oh shit, and that pissed him off. He instantly got enraged like he was being treated like a fool by this man, and he begins shoving Janice against the wall of his van and then punches her twice with his fists until she's knocked out. He didn't write Janice because
Janice was transgender. He just strangled her right away. William's fourth victim was thirty three year old Nilsa Urs Mendy, okay, era's mendy. I'm sorry, I can't. Everybody knows I can't pronounce names. Neither can I. You're no help, no help. Interestingly enough, William never planned on raping and killing Nilsa, so he says he always planned his crimes around his work
schedule. So apparently that's maybe this is off his normal killing schedule. If he had Lons caught the following day, he would take the night off from raping or killing a woman. Gott to get a good night's sleep, right, know what is that? On the day Nilsa was picked up, Nilsa asked William for ride to Hartford so she could pick up some drugs. He said that he would give her a ride in exchange for sex. She gets in the van and she refuses to have sex with him, so he rapes
and he murders her. He originally thought that with Nilsa it would be strictly some sort of trance. His actual action, like he was going to take her where she wanted to go and then yeah, yeah, but that didn't work out, and he thought he would let her free of the murder mobile. Buddy, he didn't since he didn't plan this attack. He kept Nilsa's body wrapped in a tarp while he finished his work. Oh no, the
next day, yeah, and then he disposed of her body. Unfortunately for William, Nilsa would be the downfall of his reign of terror in Connecticut. But there's still more victims. But we're gonna take a quick break before I do as I said. William wasn't done with his reign of terror, though it would soon end. On July thirty, first of two thousand and three, Brenda trus went to the Weathersfield Police Department because she hadn't heard from her
sister, Nielsa in over a week. And Nilsa was always really good about keeping in touch with her family, and she didn't have custody of her four children, but she visited them all the time. She lived in a local motel with her boyfriend, Angel Sanchez, and the police knew that she was a haremine user and a sex worker. Her boyfriend was a drug dealer,
so he was immediately the first person they suspected killed her. He was brought in for questioning and agreed to take a polygraph, which he passed with flying colors. Rather than being behind his girlfriend's disappearance, he would end up becoming a key factor and bringing down William Howell. Angel told police that he and Nilsa invited William Howell into the remote room and he was going to stay overnight in the three them were going to smoke crack together. Probably I'm assuming William
would be the one maybe paying for it, I don't know. Angel told police that the last timey son Nilsa was at two thirty am on July twenty fifth, two thousand and three. She was last seen getting into William's blue van, But despite having all of this information, it would take them over six months to arrest William. On November twenty eighth of two thousand and three, William was driving through North Carolina when he was pulled over by a patrol
cop for a driving violation. When the Weathersfield Police found out, they were really worried that they would like somehow lose William, he would get released, so they asked the North Carolina Police to hold them until they could travel the eight hundred miles to sort them and arrest warrant for violating parole. North Carolina's police they obliged, and they held Welliam. After William was picked up, they went back to Connecticut and it wasn't long drive. William mass the police.
Why would you come all this way on a misdemeanor warrant? And I'm not sure what the warrant was for, but it was a misdemeanor. One of the detectives showed William a picture of Nilsa. The detective said quote. William appeared shocked and immediately stated, I don't want to speak to you without my attorney president. I want to exercise my right to remain silent. The detective was like, surprise, bitch, right. Yeah. While they had
William and custody, investigators got a search warrant for his van. Oh boy, yeah, and the forensic team along with investigators, began searching the blue van and they noticed a blood soaked cushion. Of course it didn't clean off because you know, he's nasty shit, and the blood had soaked all the way through into the foam. There's a lot of blood. Yeah, that is a lot of blood and they noticed that one of the backseat cushions had
been replaced with three couch cushions. Can you want me agine what this fucking van looked like. It's like a garbage dump. Yeah, and shit, yeah, there's bloodstains and god knows what else. I boarded up windows and oh man. The blood was tested and it was found to be similar genetically, though I think at the time they didn't come across one hundred percent. Mall can never be one hundred percent. But it was Nilsa's, I mean
it was. There were also more bloodstains found that were unidentified to the specialists at the time. The police automatically thought there's got to be some more women because we have this other blood. Well and besides the fact you've got this creepy van, right, besides the bloodstains. Six videotapes were seized by investigators, and the video showed a darkly lit scene of how William was having what
was quoted as bizarre sex with women. He videoed it too, Yeah, bizarre sex, none of the disgusting, none of the women's faces were visible in the tapes. Now. While William was detained, he mentioned that he wanted a speedy trial. He told us to a man whose name was Thomas Rodriguez, and this man eventually told the police or whatever, Hey, he wants a speedy trial, okay. And he also told this guy how he beat the fuck out of nil Saw in the back of the van. He
broke her nose and threw out of the van. He said he had to hurry up and rushed the case because it's all circumstantial right now, and he doesn't want there to be a body found. Oh shit, that's why he wanted a speedy trial. I don't so I don't think he wanted a speedy trial so I could hurry up in the service time. But wouldn't it be new evidence, Like let's say he does. Go on, let's say he
does. Oh, maybe you're right, right, it's new evidence that didn't exist when he would have been convicted or acquitted, So double jeopardy doesn't apply, right, that's a true. Yeah, it's new I mean, hello, a body that didn't it wasn't an evidence. Remember that one case we did with mal Ignato where they found the photos of yeah, her being tortured and murdered, and he only did time for perjury. But that was a long time ago. Yeah, and you and I do family law criminal law,
so we don't really know. Don't trust us. This is not giving you legal advice right now. He also mentioned he hated fucking prostitutes. Oh, like that's not a given. He took a plea deal because there was no body, and he played guilty to first degree manslaughter on January thirtieth of two thousand and seven and was sentenced to fifteen years. So this is for Nilsa. Yes, okay, fifteen years. Yeah. Mary Jane Yard, age forty at the time, would end up becoming what was known as the
fifth victim of William. She had disappeared on October fourth, or two thousand and three, from Seymour, Connecticut. She was just out buying a pack of cigarettes when William spotted her. Mary Jean's daughter, her name was Tiffany, said that she'd talked her mom gouldbye that day and would have never thought that that was the last time she would see her mom. Mary Jane was
picked up and taken to McDonald's parking lot once again. He drove around with her for twelve hours at least, and he raped her over and over again before strangling her. There's something odd about this particular McDonald's parking lot. The corner of it is really secluded. It's about fifty feet away from where any other cars would go, and that was always where William would park his van and near where he'd dumped the bodies. Now I'm just saying, so most
people are by the I guess close to McDonald's. Yeah, he parked very far away. If I see this van parked in the corner like hanging out there, really, what is this McDonald's butt up against. So it's the busiest in the area. He would pull up next to the guardrail and there was at that strip mall I was telling you was by it. And then he would roll out the body of his victims from his van and then put
them over the guardrail, wrapped in trash bags. Parked the van in the corner of the McDonald's parking lot, get out with his shovel, what walked down to where the body was, and then drag the bodies a few more hundred yards or so deeper into this woods. I swear to God, I've seen this start deeper into these woods. And then he would bury them in his garden. Oh, this is where his gardens behind the goddamn McDonald's. Yeah, I'm by a strip mall. I'm like freaking out. I need
to see where this is. I mean to google this ship. And nobody at McDonald's ever saw anything. No one ever heard anything, or maybe they did, ye knows. Tiffany Menard side of her mother's disappearance, I thought she may have gotten into some trouble. But now that we've found her remains, now I think in my head she was probably brutally killed. Oh she was. Mary Jane's family placed flowers behind the new Burton strip mall with balloons at red Love you mom, and a nova said thinking of you always.
Now there's actually another victim. What Yeah, damn. Her name is Diane Kustack, and she would end up being the sixth victim of Williams. Diane had been a strained from her family for years because she was addicted to drugs, but she was never reported missing. Oh that's really sad. That always makes me really sad too. The last time anyone saw Diane was in late September. They're not even sure, I'm time in the fall of two thousand
and three. The only reason that her family found out about Her death was due to a clay bust created after the forensic team reconstructed it from a skull found in the garden. In the garden Wow. Photos of the boss were publicized and the local news stations asking the public, you know, does anybody recognize her? And Diane was originally a Jane Doe until her brother and then his wife called in the tipline and gave them a DNA sample. That's how
they got to hit a match that it was Diane. It was seven years after she'd been killed before she was identified. Oh really, that's just really fucking sad. I'm gonna tell you about another one. Ah, man, this dude is crazy. Twenty four year old Joveline Martinez disappeared from East Hartford,
Connecticut, and was last seen on Hillside Avenue. This is where she was picked by William joy Vleen was really beautiful and she had a lot of life left to live, just like the other women, but William decided his needs were more important than her life. And this is around the time that he was living in his van and William's wife actually filed for full custody of
the children, so he was like in a really pissed off mood. I guess her school was found on the dumping grounds and a clay bus was also put together and released to the public at the same time that Diane's was, so she was the second Jane Doe to be identified. The remains of three victims were spotted in August of two thousand and seven by a hunter trying to find a spot behind the New Britain Strip Mall. This area was far away from the public, as I already told you, and the hunter called the
police to let him know what he'd stumbled upon. But those were the bodies of Di and Jovelin and Mary Jane I mean, or that's how they were found, Oh geez, by a hunter. They were able to identify some of those bloodstains I was telling you about in his van. I know that some of them matched Joveline place knew there are other victims out there. I told you about some of the bodies they found, And keep in mind they
still haven't found Nilsa. But something interesting happened in the prison system. They have cards that they'll give prisoners. They're cold case cards. Oh really, yeah, And these cards are used by the prosecution and detectives to get conversations going between inmates in the hopes that someone would confess that this is wild I know, right, yeah, and then once that person confessed, maybe the other inmate could get a reduced sentence. William was playing cards with his summate.
His name was Jonathan Mills, and that's when the face of Joveline was on one of the playing cards. William shows the card to Jonathan and says, quote, I'm the one that murdered this young woman. And then he proceeds to give details. Oh, he started referring to himself as the quote unquote sick ripper. Oh so he named himself. Yes, he's the sick ripper. And he talks to Jonathan. He says, you know, not only did I kill Joveline, I murdered seven people and then put all their
bodies behind the strip mall in New Britain, Connecticut. So here here you go. Yeah, but don't tell anybody. Yeah right, I guess Apparently he never heard of a jail house snitch, right, and he even ended up drawing a detailed map over the bodies were buried in the garden for his for this guy in jail. Oh, hey, here, I'm gonna draw you a map to look right dumped everybody took it out and he labels the
bodies one through seven. There's that I didn't know this either. There's a hotline number that inmates can use if they want to be like jail house snitches. Really and a lot of inmates, as we know, take advantage of this process. William also told Jonathan he was going to kill himself, so that's why he was all right confessing all this. Spoiler alert, He's probably
still alive. William basically told Jonathan all this with the point of killing himself, and he told him and did that map because in trade, Jonathan said he'd give him a bunch of pills that William could use to kill himself. And William did take the pills, but he fucking lived through it, Like you just said, to kill people other people, but he couldn't kill himself. The police they end up talking to William about this and at first he
he doesn't he doesn't cooperate. They go back to the dumping ground the garden with cadaver dogs and they excavate the site behind that new Briton Strip mall. It was in twenty fourteen that the police were able to identify the other four missing women that they believed were murdered at the hands of William. They found their bodies for their remains and were able to identify him. One of the bodies was Melanie Melanie, it was on her birthday that she was identified.
Another body was Nilsa, which she's serving. Of course that fifteen years in prison. Four William still wouldn't cooperate with the police, but the investigators they didn't stop. They wanted to bring peace to the family, and they ended up charging him with six counts of capital murder. In the end, he pled guilty to all six counts. He did. He did, He said, quote, I didn't want to put the families through it, meaning the trial. Why put the families through it? Why put the taxpayers through it?
I would have been found guilty anyway. At least he was realistic. He stated it had he not been caught, he would have definitely killed more people. And yeah, right right. And Anne Kay Howard's book it's called His Garden, A Conversation with a Serial Killer. He says he never wanted to kill anybody, He only ended up killing them. One said he was afraid he would be caught for rape like for raping them. He said, basically, I killed them to cover up my crime. My fantasy wasn't about
killing, it was about rape. When as if he felt remorse, he said, quote, the killings tore me apart. I have no excuse. What can I say? I was selfish. If I could take it all back, I would. I'd give my own life to bring theirs back. I would, Oh fuck off. Yeah, I didn't want to do it up. Here's some more snippets from Anne Howard's book. These are quotes from William Why did you kill them? Bill? He answered his quote, it wasn't about killing them, and it was about raping. The prosecutors didn't know
this, But I didn't just rape three of them. They based that on what Jonathan Mills, that's his former sallmate, had told them. How would they know that I raped just three. The bodies were nothing but bones when they dug them up. I raped all of them except Danny, whistn't so. I think they only only could maybe charge him with three Okay, she says, because he was a man. He says, yeah. I picked him up and knew Britain. After leaving the Cattillac ranch in Southington. He
was wearing a short miniskirt and already described it. And she asked, how did you kill him? I punched him a couple of times, and then I strangled him. She asked, did you strangle Melanie Camilanie too? Yeah. I first tried to kill Camilanie by hitting her in the head with a hammer. She didn't see it coming. There's another thing that Mills got wrong when he talked to the cops speaking about Jonathan. He said, I tried to strangle Melanie, but she wouldn't die, so I beat her in the
half with a hammer. That's backwards. I hit her with a hammer first, pretty hard, but it didn't even knock her out. She begged, please don't kill me. Don't hit me with a hammer again. And I just didn't have the heart to hit her again. If that makes sense, No, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense. No. Instead, I'm going to strangle her because that's so much better. Ann asked, when you slice off Melanie Melanie's fingertips? Was that so the cops couldn't identify her body?
And he says, yep, and John send some shit about me dismantling her jaw that's not true. I just pulled out a few teeth after she was dead, that's all. When I asked what he did with the teeth and fingertips, he said, I put them in a grocery bag and I threw him into the trash outside the Family Dollar store. Jeez, it's gruesome. In a follow up letter to Anne, William admits that he did lie
to her about something. Oh oh, he says, quote, There's one thing I've been dishonest with you about, and that is that I did remove Melanie's lower jaw and an attempt to hide her identity. Oh. I lied to you about this because I was embarrassed by the sheer gruesomeness of it. That embarrassed him. Even as I was doing it, I couldn't believe I was doing it. Put her fingertips and her jaw on a plastic grocery bag and just threw them in the dumpster beside the store. And she's the one
he kept for two weeks, isn't it. Yeah? The body? Yeah? Oh no. Leon will remain in prison for at least three hundred and sixty years. And that's the end of our story. Oh so this winner is still alive. And wells sitting in prison, riding away. We're in Connecticut where he belongs. Yeah, it's gross. Well, thanks to Leah for that one. I had never heard of him. I may have,
Yeah, I don't recall. And it's hard when there's you know, it gets difficult to tell some of these cases when there's so many and there's different timelines and stuff. So if it was a bit confusing, it was a bit confusing for me to try to figure out when the bodies were found and identified. But at least he did pay the price. Yeah, he did. Well, thank you for that. Yeah, you're so welcome. We have some shout outs. We do a lot. We haven't done it in
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