Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm your host to Many Parasites Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, and today on the show I'm Trash, we're talking about all the animals who intentionally make themselves look like garbage. These animals want you to just ignore them because they're normal litterd nothing to see here. Those some have sinister purposes. Discover this and more as we answer the age old question why do so many bugs
want to look like poop? Joining me today is friend of the show, comedian and producer of The City Council Show podcast, Polo V. Goodlandlan Welcome. Hello, I'm super excited to be on this episode. Yes, I like, I feel like so many people also to disguise themselves as trash exactly. Yeah. I sometimes like you just want to kind of appear like trash so you can float through the world and not have any anyone interacts. Do you have a question?
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag? Wow? That's beautiful. Did you come up with that? Yeah? Just now, I just that's that's such a beautiful sentiment. I love that. Yeah, I mean I do sometimes feel like like tarash. I don't know what I'm how I'm approaching that word, but I feel like trash sometimes. I'm really excited to see like a fish that looks like a Derrito's bag, you know,
just like trash. I was like picturing like human trash, and I was like, that's crazy that there there is a like a lizard that looks like a water bottle. That's the wild I mean, give them, give them like a few more million years of evolution and it'll happen. Yeah. But yeah, So we are talking about animals who disguise themselves as garbage for a variety of fun reasons. The first one I want to talk about is the cockatoo
wasp fish, also known as a Blabby's tain nineous. Okay, it was gonna be like fish, get your own animal name, because it's like cockatoo wasp fish, you know what I mean. I feel like it's appropriating very many different animal cultures and it's good to know it has its own name. Yeah, which is a Blaby's taying ninan. Notice. Yeah, it is a six inch or fifteen centimeter fish found in the
West Pacific near Japan, Australia, and Fiji. They are typically found on the sandy sea floor or in sea grass um and they basically their whole lifestyle is don't mind me, I'm a dead piece of gross kelp, ignore me. Help the trash of the sea other than the trash that we also put in the sea, Yeah, that's also trash. It's like, yeah, but you know, KELP is sort of like the dead leaves of the seas, nature's trash um
and they really commit to the bit. Uh. I've provided you with a couple of YouTube links if you would be so kind of check those out. That'd be so weird if I clicked on this YouTube link and I started getting ads from fish new heably Oh whoa, there was one in the foreground that I didn't even see. Wow. They're very good at it. And they're doing the whole like lazing around getting moved by the water water which
is wind of the sea, the wind of the sea water. Yes, damn, that's such a chill life, just like and just relaxing and trash. Yeah, I mean it's they are doing a method acting of the of the dead. KELP really going for who was the succession guy, Jeremy what's his name? Jeremy Strong could never, Jeremy Strong could never, Daniel day Lewis, who else does? Yeah, like Jared Litto leto Jared a bunch of strangely ego tripping men, right, more like Jared lefo this guy there we go. But watching the second
clip one second? Do they like? Help is different colors? Right, Yeah, I mean brown green mostly, So I'm wondering if, like the kelp in the area wherever these are, like, if they if they reflect the color of the kelp there. Yeah, probably I would imagine, so like there's there's a great deal of this color of brownish sort of reddish brown kelp, so they would blend right in with the kelp force
you know where they are. Um and yeah, I really just appreciate how committed they are to acting like kelp. They swim in a way where they kind of make it seem like they're drifting, so it looks just like they're kelp kind of floating in the current, but they are intentionally moving, so like their swim styles, like I just kind of swim over here like they're floating. Uh. And but they are covered in poisonous spines. Um, yeah, venomous spines. So unfortunately they if you step on one
of these. They have a bunch of venomous spines, and it's fun because they make themselves intentionally look just like kelp. So yeah, and then you're gonna spine me. It's a fault, right, Good luck with that. Uh. And and even like more toxic of them is that their predators, and they will each shrimp in small crustaceans, and this form of mimicry is not just to evade detection from editors, it is
to evade detection from their prey. So they just act like a dead piece of kelp, float along and then ambush some unsuspecting victim and suddenly this kelp is trying to eat you. That would give me so many like I would have so many trauma responses to vegetation after that. Yeah, I mean it's you don't expect like basically the limp salad of the sea to attack you. That's the last place you would expect violence from, like essentially sea salad.
So essentially, the only clue you have that this thing is not some dead kelp drifting on the sea floor is its eyes. And their eyes are really weird because I don't know if you noticed in that video, but they kind of like stabilize, like as they're floating, their eyes remain kind of like gyroscopically stable, so they can continually scan their surroundings for prey. It's like in those videos of like people like moving chickens arounds and their
heads too in the same spot. It's exactly like that, except the chicken is covered in venomous spines and looks like sea salad. Maybe they would do better on land if if they did look like that. Yeah, yeah, I guess, I mean, I guess we would like that would be very effective. Camouflage for a chicken is like a salad because then meat eaters are like you a salad. I don't want that to be like, oh taste dress like chicken.
I hate myself, OLIVI is it just me? Or do you ever just like dress up in garbage when you don't want to be bothered, like you put on into Yeah, just like the you'r were your most off putting sweater or jeans, like and an intentionally placed Marinara sauce stains somewhere just so you know, Yeah, it was intentional, sure, artfully artfully designed stains um so that when you go outside people will give you like a wide berth. Yeah,
for sure. I mean that's like when I walk my dogs, I'm always just like dressed in whatever I'm at in at home, and it's very like not attention. It's like it's unfortunately attention grabbing in a wrong way, like in that it's like so mismatched. But luckily in Hollywood nobody care, right, But yeah, I have a lot of my whole, my whole. That's like this the Billie Eilish thing where she wore a bunch of like baggy sweatpants and stuff so people
wouldn't look at her body. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah, it's just sometimes you don't want to be noticed. And it's frustrating because I live in Italy and people actually dressed very nicely a lot of the time, and everywhere except the US, people dressed very nicely a lot of the time. It seems that way. Yes, I go to and yet I'm like, oh, I'm going out to dinner. Are usually in the US, I would just like wear a T shirt And they were like, you would wear just a
T shirt outside of your home? And I was like yeah, and they're like that's disgusting. Yeah. When I went to an Italian language class. I like was in there with like jeans and hoodie and she's like, oh, did you just come back from the gym. It's like, no, I'm
just wearing clothes. You're welcome that I'm here. But the kind of the commitment to loungewear, to wearing garbage so that you're not noticed is done by the humble crab who I don't know if you've heard of this idea of carsonization where animals repeatedly evolved to be crab shaped. But all I'm saying is we are sort of headed towards crab form eventually. And so isn't that what the that movie was about the crab or the lobster? What was it that Jake jill and all moving no idea.
I've never heard of this, but I would love it if there's a Jake Jillenhall movie called the Crabs. It might have been calling Ferrell. They're kind of the same time Ferrell. It wasn't a movie called the Lobster, That's what it was. Where you have to like I think you have to like find you have to marry someone, or you turn into an animal when you turn like forty or something, and that's where we're all going. A single woman. This is up exactly where I'm headed. I'm
about to turn into this crab. I think going crab is not so bad. Honestly, you can scuttle a lot more. Scuttling is nice. It's a good it's a good form of locomotion. Anyways, I would I would dig a crab lifestyle, especially decorator crabs, because decorator crabs are. Yes, they're basically like I am small and cute and edible, so I'm just gonna put a bunch of junk on my bodies so nobody notices me, mm hmm. So they decorate themselves. Exactly.
How come it's called decorator crabs and not like defender crabs. It's because they're cute, toxic, their their life, their survival skills or little arcs and crafts to you scientists, pinterest crabs. Yes, so there are at least fifteen species of crabs known as decorator crabs, who will pick up junk they find from the seat and place it on tiny little vil crow like hooks on their bodies. They're literally covered in vil crow and so they can just pick that's crazy.
The hooks are called sete, and sete are just it's just a science see word for like hair like bristles. So they can basically pick up any kind of seed junk that could stick to sort of a sticky vill crow thing. Um. They'll use things like kelp, broken bits of coral shells, pebbles. Some species of decorator crab even choose to attach toxic bits of scrap onto their bodies like little an enemies. I said that wrong. Anemonies. That's that's a word that does not feel good in my mouth.
So it's thought that the enemonies may benefit by being able to taxi around and find food, while the crab benefits from the enemonies toxins. Mm hmm. Wow. That's like having like one mean friend. Yeah, It's like they benefit because they get access to all the places you go because you're nice, but then you benefit when goes down and you need to like throw that mean friend at
the situation. Exactly. It's like your mean friend is always sort of strong army in you into driving them around, but then we need them to really release some They will fight someone for you, they will, right exactly. I love that. I love this friendship for them. So decorator crabs will use whatever they find in their environment, which makes sense because they want to blend in best where they are. But that means that if a decorator crab finds itself near human garbage, it will cover itself in
human garbage. But it's so good. So there are a little derrito's bags wandering around the ocean pretty much, pretty much so. A crab found near a sump system by photographer Michael Bach at a research station was covered in little pieces of plastic and netting that was in a filter system he had crawled into. So thankfully this wasn't like pollution in the ocean. There was like a filtration system that was supposed to keep stuff from getting out into the ocean, but this little crab got in there.
It was like great free junk and he put them on all on himself. Ones man, one man's trash is another decorator crabs. Michael's arts Michaels is like the number one generator of just stuff and junk. Like there's I feel like in a few if we last a few more hundred thousand years, unlikely, but if we do, there's just gonna be like a fine sedimentary layer of like Michael's stuff like sequin Yeah, fillers, pipe cleaners, yeah, yeah,
felt eyeballs, those little like weird styrofoam shapes. Yeah. So Unfortunately, this habit of wearing human trash is not only found with decorator crabs. It is a so found with hermit crabs. So hermit crabs will wear trash if they end up finding that instead of an adequate seashell. So hermit crabs will use the abandoned shells of other marine life rather
than producing their own shells. And as they grow, they need to move into bigger shells, so they're always on the hunt for a nice sustainable kings look at them, yeah, whatever they have incredible reuse, recycle um literal grain houses is what they're doing, right, scuttle reuse, recycle crab life. So finding the right size shell is difficult, So if they're surrounded by human garbage, they will wear that garbage
like bottle caps, broken lightbulbs. Uh. This photographer Sean Miller captured a bunch of photos of hermit crabs on a litter covered beach in Okinawa, and they're just they're with their little bottle caps and ran garbage that they're wearing, Like, it's no big deal. But if we're not going to use it, they should, you know what I mean. Yeah, it is like so I'm like, no, We're like, we
don't need to. We've we've made we're such consumers, we've like endowed the consumer lifestyle and the capitalist culture onto crabs. They're like they're they're like work pilled. Yeah, they're like, yeah, they're going to be shopping at Cole's next. It's it's a problem. It's a big problem. Yeah. I mean it is a problem though, because trash is I'm the whole not helpful for crabs. First of all, it's not an
ideal home for them. Um. But also there is something called a cascade of death that can happen to hermit crabs, which I do. I mean, this is bad, but I do like the name of it. I love it when scientists are just like, this is a cascade of debt death, this is a whirlpool of suffering. It's like a scientist who didn't get into writing school, right, you know what I mean, this is your one shot? Yeah, exactly, So
this cascade of death can happen to hermit crabs. Who get stuck inside plastic bottles that they're rooting around in. So they can sometimes go inside a plastic or glass bottle because they're looking for water. They think maybe it's a home, but it turns out just to be a big bottle. But then they keep yeah, and they can get stuck inside because the sides are so smooth they don't get traction with their little hermit crab feet and so it's unable to get out, and so it'll die.
And then it emits a smell that other hermit crabs can detect and which lets them know that there's a dead hermit crab around. And when other hermit crabs smell that, they know there is an available shell. And so yeah, yeah, So normally what this means. Normally this means that it's just the hermit crab going to the dead hermit crabs estate sale, doing a little bit of harmless grave robbing
and getting a nice new home. M But what happens now when they are inside this bottle is that these other crabs go in smelling they're like, hey, free home, I'm dead smell, and then they get trapped too, and then they die, and then another crab smells them, and it's just this vicious cycle of crabs dying and sending out like I'm dead, now, come take my shell sent out to other crabs until these bottles can be like full of dead hermit crabs. Okay, how do we do this?
But with like billionaires just luring immediately, like how can we weaponize this? I'm better than other people. Lure them into buying social media companies and dunk on them more and more. This is the owt that that they're like, it's affecting so many hermit crabs makes me so upset. It's also like, I don't know, like people are always like, oh, like marine life gets trapped, and it's like you don't think about the little like insect like creatures to people
think about like turtles and stuff. It's really like the whole the whole food chain is affected. Yeah, it's the little guys too. I love hermit crabs. I had a pet terrestrial hermit crab um when I was a kid, and the best pets, but that makes sense, Yeah, they're not great pets. I owe a lot of pets as a kid that like as an adult I would advise against because partially because it's like they're not great pets, and also it's not necessarily the best life for them
to be manhandled by a child. Your your hermit crab. You had that chimp that ate someone's face, talk about anymore, Yeah, you had a whole slew of pets, Yeah exactly. Yeah, but this this hermit crab did try to eat my face, or at least my armpit. It like crawled into my armpit one time and then just clamped down really hard and I couldn't get it, and it was just it
sounds like it was very painful. I was conscientious as a kid, and I didn't want to like rip it off because I was worried I would hurt its little arm. So I just was like, well, this is my life now, and I had to wait until it decided to let go. I just had a hermit crab in my armpit for like half an hour. Oh my god, what if you had like a cascade of death from that, like you accidentally and then it died. And then all of a sudden, all these hermit crabs like appeared out of your apartment.
And it's like and then it's like someone's like, wow, it smells like a bunch of hermit crabs crawled up and died in your armpits. I'm like, well about that, about that, USA, That's why POLIVI. I'm sure we've both experienced the feeling of just feeling like crap and sort of like, you know, just just dressing like crap, just sort of embracing being crapped for a day, you know
what I mean, similar to this trash theme. Yeah, I mean it's like there are days where, like, at least for me, I sometimes just like I feel kind of crappy and I just go with it. It's like, all right, I'm having a crap day. I'm just gonna be crap today. That's fine. Well, lots of arthropods also love to be crap. Uh. In fact, they're very committed to looking exactly like poop um.
So this is something that happens in multiple different like insects and arthropods, and it is some of them like it's yes, it is kind of gross looking, but it's also ridiculously elegant evolution. So it's very gross looking. But it is like you have to be really good at mimicry to do it exactly. I mean, this is it's
like I don't know. I feel like it's high like when in like really high fashion, sometimes they do this like disheveled look where it's like, wow, that outfit looks like garbage, but it's very fancy and well thought out garbage. I guess yeah, it's like the casual look. It's really well crafted. Actually right, it's the sloppy bun. I've never been able to like, I've never been able to do a sloppy bun. Why is a sloppy bun? Okay, but a frizzy bun isn't like let me have let me
be a frizz ball. I come into fashion style. Come on, I have extremely frizzy like Girl before the Makeover and teen movies hair literally literally in middle school. I after, okay, I was still sticking with me. This is how much it's a like a chip on my shoulder. I went to swimming class because we had like gym rotations, and one of them was like swim learning how to swim, And then afterwards one of my male friends was like, you look like the before picture and Rachel looks like
the after in a shampoo commercial. Oh my god. First of all, but I didn't know how to articulate that at the time, No, everybody just laughed, and I was like, okay, because I didn't have like a voice at that point. You know, I was by all these white people in Utah, but I was. I literally like in the morning, like I won't One thing that I do love about myself is that I won't look in the mirror in the mornings and I like go walk the dogs and just like leave immediately. So no idea what I look like.
And I'm just like if I tie my hair up, it's like first ball fris Ball, Like it's just like there's no I can't. I'm not going to put condition under my hair when my dog needs to take you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, big same. I When I try to do sloppy bun, I look like a Victorian era woman who's been like put in the asylum by her husband for speaking her mind. We're lootomy right exactly. Um on Sunday's post lobotomy. On Sunday's pre lobotomy. But yeah,
it's just it doesn't look great. So I feel like with the with the like stylish, messy bun, it's something that I have to imagine people work at this craft. Similarly, the bird poop spiders great segue perfect, So you're so gross looking, this is disgusting. They really do look like bird poop. So spiders love to pretend to be poop,
and there are actually many species who do it. So. For example, there is the Selenia excavata, or bird dropping spider, who lives in Australia and looks literally like a little globule of bird poop. It is a splotchy white and brown and it's disconcertingly glossy on the white part. It's very uncomfortable. Yeah, it looks literally like a bird dropping. Uh. They smell like them too. I don't think these ones do. There are some bird poop uh imitators who do emit
a foul odor to really sell it. Um so yeah they also Daniel day lewis it. Uh. They method act by holding their legs tucked in and staying still to really give it that authentic poop performance. And some in Law and Order as a corpse right now, I would love it. Oh my god, if we like lived in a magical world where animals, you know, like in the Flintstones, where animals were all employed as stuff, and like you had to have like bird poop in a movie. So you cast one of these as the bird poop and
then you paid them a fair wage. Yeah, I mean, I think the most unreal union podcast, right, the most unrealistic part of that scenario is someone being paid a fair worge. Yeah, we both were like, what a dream of fair wage? What a dream? I mean, sentient spiders. Maybe we'll get there soon. Fair wage not a chance? So so yes, Uh, they grow to be about half an inch or a little over a cinameter wide. So while they're not like super teeny tiny, they're definitely pray
for birds. So what better way to keep a bird from eating you than looking like a piece of poop? Yep, So they are hunters as well. They are spiders, and they actually go from day to night using a different kind of mimicry. It's like, day look is poop, night look is something else. So, um, I mean, who amongst us, you know, when we go out at night look much
different than the poop look during the day exactly. So they hunt for their favorite food at night, which is moths, and at night it's not so much that they change their appearance, but they definitely put on a deceptive perfume. So the bird dropping spider releases a pheromone that mimics that of a female moth. So the horny male moths will come right up to the spider who smells like a sexy female, and then the spider eats the male.
I think the female moths are in on it. I think there are ones who are like, They're like, here, take this perfume and then murder my husband. Yeah. I think, yeah, like this, this male moth just made fun of my antenna. Here's some perfume. Do what you will. This is like the Chicago movie Music, but moth and birth. I would I would definitely pay to see an insect version of Chicago. Yeah, can you like Katherine Sada Jones is like a spider.
That'd be great. Yeah. So yeah, it goes from being a piece of poop during the day to a fem fatale at night, which I love. It's what we all dream of. Hell yeah, so there are many other spiders and insects who use the poop defense. So, uh, one other type of insect. I want to talk about our moths.
So the You'drea is book You'd Rise? I have no Oh my god, You'd Raise you'd raise Grata moths a k a. Beautiful wood nymphs found in the US have white, brown, black and green splotches on their wings, and when their wings are actually wide open, they're quite lovely. They look like pretty moths. They don't look like anything gross or strange. But when they fold their wings and they splay out their front legs, so their front legs are kind of fuzzy,
like covered in like white fuzz, which is cute. But when they like splay them out and fold their wings up, they look like a bird poops bladder. It's because it goes from white to like slightly green to brown. It looks like how a bird poop like crusts over. Yes, So when they're like folded up like that, it looks like a drip of bird poop in like the positioning and then also in like the gradient. But then when they're open they look so pretty. Yeah. I love that.
I love that they can transform from pretty moth to like, nope, I am a splatter of nasty, crusty bird. Do do moths contain multitudes? Indeed? And uh, there's another moth known as macro silics I found in Malaysia and they are perhaps the most impressive bird dropping mimics. Uh. Their wings actually feature an entire painting not only of splattered bird poop, but what seems to be a couple of flies eating the poop. Oh my god, holyh that looks crazy, right.
It looks like a cartoon, like somebody drew it. Yeah. But also the bird poop also looks like a penis part of it, because it's like symmetricals right, so like when they pulled it right bo and penis coming up along the spine. It's it's the first known of mimicry and pornography. So not much is known about why this moth has this impressive mimicry, but it is likely it's to ward off predators who are not particularly interested in a bunch of bird poop and a couple of flies
eating that bird poop. Do you think flies get tricked by it too? You know what? I bet they do. I bet they like go up to this moth's ass and they're like, hey, what's going on here? And they wanted to smell? Right, It's just not it's not working out for them, it is, I really, there's like, not surprisingly not that much research on these things. And I really want there to be more because this is so
it's so ridiculous. Like you can see the outline of the flies, you can see their little red heads, you can see sort of different segments of their bodies. It's crazy like it it literally looks like a cartoon, like
it's filed. Do you think there are other moths that we haven't discovered with like other things on their wings that would make you a verse to coming up to them, Like a moth with a a drunk bachelor rep party scene on their wings, like, you know, like a moth with a red maga hat, right, a moth with the guy doing street magic. Yeah, I think I think definitely there are moths like that out there. Um, we have to we have to do the research to find them
right exactly. That would probably be like that would be my choice for like like if we could wear camouflage city camouflage. That's just like things that would keep you away from you, Like, oh, if you just wear this is mean because I do like green peace. But if you wear like a sweater sweatshirt with green peace on it, people help clipboard and have a clipboard, people will leave you alone because everyone like dodges out of the way.
But then there's like that one weirdo who really wants to talk about it, and then you're the mark, you know what I mean, right, And then that and that weirdo is me. It was me the whole time. I think that's a view and me discovering that we have the ability to wear whatever we want, you know, right. I think that's full episode, and that's being like, let's take inspiration from these insects and yeah, express ourselves time
we want to express our though. Yeah, I mean if I wear a shirt with a bunch of bird duty printed on it, then I can get pooped on by a birden it won't make a difference. Yeah, that sounds
like a Mentos commercial. Actually, it's like like remember the one where he like he sits down on like a painted bench and he's like, oh no, and then he makes this striped suit out of oh oh yeah, that was like a really old one from Yeah, that's that one all the time, because it's like in my memory, yes, like a Mentos you sit on bird poop and there's a bunch of like just a bird poop covered bench and you're like, oh man, I got bird poop and
then you roll around and then someone's like nice Jackson Pollock. Yeah, I think we figured out fashion. We figured it out packing in Milan, packing in Paris. We've got the fat, the fashion down. The fashion is bird crap. So mimicry, animal mimicry exactly. So before we go, we've got to play a little game called the Mystery Animal sound game or yes, Who's squawking? Every week I play a mystery animal sound and you the listener, and you the guests,
try to guess who's squawking. The rules is it's any animal, and I give you a little hint. Uh. Some weeks it's very tricky. Some weeks it's maybe less tricky. I don't know. Usually it's quite tricky, and this one is no exception. Uh. So last week's mystery animal sound hint was this. It says, if this little guy has stolen the voice of another animal, So did you get that
little bim baby baby. Yeah, so it sounds like a bird, but that makes me think it's not a b bird, because you're saying it's stole the voice of another animal. So it makes me think it's like like some sort of insect, like a cricket or something to pretend like it's a bird. Interesting, very interesting logic. Well, you're definitely on the right track. There is that, your final guests, Yes, so you are very close. You're right that this is not a bird and it's something that sounds like a bird,
but it's not an insect. This is actually a tree frog. So this is yes, this is the bird voiced tree frog. That's its name. Just bird voice tree frogs. Okay. Sometimes we get names like cascade of Death and sometimes we get bird voice tree frogs. Sometimes yeah, sometimes it's like turtle who is green and also brown and knows his pointy Yeah, and we clearly know who double major in English major like. So, the bird voice tree frog is found in swamps, wet and forests in the United States.
It is a small green and gray frog who spends almost all of its life in the trees. It really only leaves the safety of the trees to mate and lay their eggs. And what you have just heard is the call of the male, and like bird's song, it is used to track females. So it's interesting because it sounds similar to bird's song and it's used in essentially the same way. So you know, little frog has big bird dreams. Yeah. I love that it's like raised by birds.
Do you remember remember that book Stella Luna about the bat ah Man. It was such a good It was a children's book about this bat raised by birds because it like got lost separated from its mom and landed in like a bird's nest and it tried to like sit up straight and like eat bugs and do all these bird things, but it was having struggling really hard. And then find it's like mom finds it again, and then it gets to live the bat life and eat fruit.
It's a great book, very cute. But yeah, I like to think that this frog got like raised by birds once and it's like pass this information on to the other frogs of hey, guys, this is actually pretty cool. Now they're all doing it all right, Onto this week's mystery animal. Sound. The hint is whoever named this animal was being a bit judgmental. It feels kind of like
you're in Jurassic Park, right, Yeah, that was weird. So there's multiple of them, and they did it in a way that sounded like a pack or something, but it also a kind of bird like mm hmm, infusing. I think when you said it was judgmental. I feel like that there's gonna be something in the name that's like like mean about how it sounds like this, like this, this shrill something, the stupid, the nagging, the stupid voiced goat. Yeah,
it'll be interesting. So you got any guesses? Um? Yeah, I want to go with them the I think Oh so for a type of animal? Oh god, now, because the other one was a frog, I'm like, are these like some weird like box or h Well, foxes are more on their own, right, m I'm wondering if it's some sort of like mammalian thing instead of like a bird or something interesting interesting thing. Yeah, my face, my face is a is a mask of complete neutrality. Yeah, I guess we'll have to tune in to find out.
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