Cheddar Biscuit Beer

Welcome in, everybody It's the Craft Beer Republic Thanks for drinking Thanks for joining I am Greg, and I am being joined by the freshest of all the fresh coasts, and that is Flex What's happening, big fella? Not much, man Doing well I think you're supposed to say, "It's not a boner show" Is that what this 20 seconds thing was? Yeah, you were supposed to remember that it's definitely not a boner show Definitely not a boner show, in case anyone is wondering

Yeah, we will refrain from all boner talk Bang Yeah, exactly And then, joining us live and in person, the new head brewer at Pedals & Pints, Boris What's happening? Hello Hello How's it hanging? It's, you know, a little to the left, but it is It's not every day you meet a guy named Boris That is true, especially not being, like, a super Russian, like, evil villain

or something Yeah, the last Boris I knew was the guy who played Frankenstein's monster Oh, yeah Boris Karloff I didn't know you knew him personally Yeah Oh, yeah That's new Yeah We go way back Like, really far back Yeah, it's, like, super Like, didn't he die before you were born, kind of, back?

Oh, yeah Yeah It was a nice night of shrooms and all that stuff, so Anyways, Boris is here to get nerdy with us and all that We'll get to his plugs in a couple of seconds Don't forget, follow us all on the socials @CraftBeerRepublic, @flex_me_a_beer, underscores in between Are you on the You're on the 'gram, right? I am What's your 'gram?

Unless it's private It's @BorrieTheBlade @BorrieTheBlade That's right No numbers or anything Come on, Greg Thank you No numbers, no underscores Oh, I love it I love it That's the kind of guy Eat a dick, Greg Eat a dick Hey, not a boner show How dare you?

So much to get to today We're going to talk to Boris about what's happening over at the brewery, what's being brewed We're going to talk about some booze news We got a call from the homie Chew your beer Can't wait Yeah He's actually not mad at me this time He's sympathizing So, we'll get to that But quickly, I need to get into this beverage I'm drinking this beer because of a story I'll tell here in a couple of few, but we're having psychedelic vibes from Shred Beer Company

Shred with one D 6% and has a 406 on untapped It says massive amounts of citra, Eldorado, and mosaic hops get packed into this low gravity crusher to create trippy flavors and aromas of peach sorbet, orange starburst, melon, and white, excuse me, white gummies Why am I saying what way? On the schnoz, this is, dare I say, delightful? Is it peachy?

Because I really love when that peach shines through A little peach, a little orange I do smell the aforementioned starburst It smells a little starbursty No shit Horse is like, "You're a fucking idiot I don't smell shit" I'm trying to get into my schnoz right now Unyield tongue grabber It's orange citrus Yeah It's so orangey and effervescent on the nose Flavor I'd say mostly follows suit, a lot of that orange I don't get a ton of peach, maybe a little melon It's my favorite

It's a hazy pale ale, so it's light in body It's definitely checking the hazy box It is so clean, well, not clean, but so easy to drink I could fucking chug these all night long Love that This is super drinkable for six It is quite crushable It's a little dangerous at six That's the best thing about these hazy pales is how, so they look great, right?

The appearance is great The notes are great The body is astoundingly light and you can just throw them down They dangerous Yeah Yes, they are Yeah At 6%, this is an easy one to cozy up to and cozy up to three more of its friends All right Quickly, before we get into some business, top listening city of last week, Los Angeles,

California What do you know? Keeping it local It's nice Yeah It's cause we mentioned the Dodgers or something That's probably what happened Probably It was losers Yeah Just kidding How dare you? How dare you? Surrounded by Dodgers fans Well spoken from a fresh coaster Sorry How did those brewers do in the play? Oh, that's right Yeah We made it Yeah We made it To the wild card? We were there To the stands?

Yeah Yeah We got like a $50 million payroll We do what we can do Christian Yelich is the ball boy for the world series right now He was a ball boy for us for the last three months, but alas, not a Christian Y elich show or baseball for that matter So anyways, shout out to LA Also happy birth as the week that this drops a happy birthday to both Erica and Scott Oh, thank you, Scott Yes indeed Happy birthday to them Also got to plug the fact that I was on the tap room podcast with Mike

Mike was on the show with us, right? Yeah I remember Yeah You're in some change ago August 23 Real nice guy Real nice guy Yeah A lot of fun beer nerd And so he had me on and now it's released so you can go to the tap room podcast All one word on the gram We're also posting links on our gram, all that good stuff So go check it out Sneak peek How'd it go?

Um, it was good It was fun We, we got nerdy Uh, the clip he posted was like, he was asking me about local Ventura County beer So I started naming off breweries It's not, it was really unfair He's like, what's your favorite local beer? And I'm like, how much fucking time do you have? I'm like, what do you want?

You want a sour slash hazy You go to Casa You want just all around great beer You go to made West You want a fucking lager You go to Integra and I just started rattling off everything I could think of And um, I think that ended up taking up way too much time and boy, was he sorry that he asked me at that point But uh, you asked, don't nerd out if you don't want to nerd out Yeah So then we started talking about like podcast stuff for a little bit and got a little nerdy on that

And uh, Chu got brought up at one point cause we sort of met because of Chu and all that good stuff So yeah Fun times Go check it out Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Um, that's pretty much it for the announcements I think And a license plate six, four, seven, two Your headlights are on last over the weekend, got to hang out with Erica and McDreamy Heck yeah

I sold the pictures That's right Yeah Uh, we had to go up to the Sacramento area for some wife's family stuff and I was able to sneak in a few hours of Erica and McDreamy time We went to high hand brewing Anybody heard of high hand?

I just know it's not to be confused with low hand or very different or left hand True So yeah Yeah Uh, never heard of it myself Really cool spot The beers were, they're the hit and miss that a couple actually really enjoyed But overall they're just sort of average, average beers, uh, nothing wrong with them The spot was really cool

It was like an old train depot or something that they had converted into like a brewery slash restaurant Yeah Those are the best Yeah It was, it was really cool They did a really good job They had a great, um, stage and like life music space It was huge So it's awesome I love that I love when old real estate that should not get destroyed gets repurposed and it's even better when it's a brewery Right Right So something like completely different and like obscure Yeah

It's like we have a church or a brewery here that put together in an old church So they have like all the classic stained glass windows that used to be in it and, um, man, I'd go there all the time just for the, just for the vibe It is a, you know, it's like 45 minutes for me, two counties over, but, uh, well, yeah, it's a really cool place Nice It used to be a tire, big brand tire out here and it's no longer there It's in Camarillo and back East there's a few breweries that have repurposed

like car garages Oh yeah So you have the garage doors as like patio doors That is neat And then they put tables on the other side So you just roll it up when it's nice out and you close it when it's hot or cold, vice versa And it's long Right So it's, it's a tire shop You have a whole bunch of bays that do their thing And then you have an office in the front and I'm like, man, that would be a sick place for a brewery Like you can take the front half of the office, turn that into the tap room

only And then the back half becomes all of production with an L shaped dining room, we'll say, that overlooks all of the brewery Kind of like you've been in society in San Diego Kind of like their spot, their original spot It's just like a long tap room, but then you're looking at the entire brewery right there, right on the other side of the table Like kind of that concept, but with garage doors Yeah I think one of the coolest locations around here for a brewery is Leashless

Ah, right, cause that tire shop, emphasis on locations Emphasis on location, but really cool historic, I think it was like built in the thirties or something like that It looks like it Now, so for a brewery like that, they should come out with a beer that says like, this used to be a tire shop, right?

Like tire shop stout Yeah Just something like, didn't pedals have one at one point that was a nod to, it used to be a red lobster Our Micheladas is called dead lobster That's right I like that I like the little throwback Yeah I never knew that Oh really?

Yeah It was like six months in and they're like, yeah, that's, you know, that's why we call our Michi dead lobster I was like, nope Didn't even click Do now I've been wondering why people have been asking where the cheddar biscuits are Next beer, Cheddar Bay Biscuits or whatever That would be brilliant Maybe they're really good or really disgusting It would be amazing And then it would not

It's just like, Oh, this is grow No, it's not Oh no Obscure beer names Like they have nothing to do with the beer Actually Oh, right It's so right Yeah That would be funny Oh, you can eat shrimp It'd be good I once ate 120 shrimp before Did you really? Yeah Hey George Wow

The ocean called They said they're running out of shrimp Yeah Oh yeah So every time they'd bring me two skewers, I would already order my next two skewers and I just kept the cycle going and they had some, some kind of grilled teriy aki shrimp on special So I was just mowing them down 10 and a half And now we know why Red Lobster figured it out There used to be a Hooters out here in, in our area and my sister's at the time boyfriend

won some sort of like football bet at the restaurant and he got an all you could eat wings party for up to like six people or eight people or something like that So I was on the invite list Luckily we did some fucking damage to their chicken supply that night Hell yeah And those poor waitresses, I mean they got their steps in like they'd walk or anything else Oh yeah Another round You should just bring bigger plates cause you're going to do a lot of walking tonight That was good times

And so smart on them We spent hundreds of dollars in beer so we could eat free wings So good times Oh, so train station Yes Great, great place for a brewery Not an all you can eat show Not an all you can eat show Be kind of nice if it was And then after that we went down the street to Shred Beer who, or which was opened by one of the partners in it slash head brewers, Amy, who used to be at Arrow L odge Brewing out here, sort of followed her move up there because we loved Arrow Lodge so

much and her beers down here So finally got to go check it out A great little spot They have, I think it's a permanent barbecue pop up outside His trailer was sort of there and didn't look like it moved very much So I'm guessing it's permanent or semi-permanent So I had some barbecue, had some beers with Erica McDreamy again and everything we had was just fucking phenomenal She is, is killing it over there It's so good Everything I had from what Erica sent me was great

So love me some Shred Beer They keep winning at GABF and I think it's not a surprise why And we wrapped up the night by heading over to track seven brewing in the middle of Sacramento and it was fine It just, it was exactly what I kind of expected it to be, but you know, it got the job done It was kind of funny because they were, you know, Sacramento, the Kings Lakers

game was on and so we were watching it amongst the Kings fans, which apparently they do exist and the Lakers won that night So just kind of funny Harry, everyone's react Everyone's cheering along I'm like, Oh, here we go Then LeBron finally woke up I was like, I'm going to hit a couple of three pointers and everyone shut up real fast and good times though It was interesting The Dodger games though, the first, you know, world series we watched out there and I started

talking to people at the brewery I was like, Oh, you guys, Dodger fans like, no, but we hate the Yankees I was like, all right, that's fair You know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend cause you know, there's a lot of giants fans up there and A's fans don't count because it's the Hayes and hope my wife doesn 't listen to the show, but those are basically Vegas anyway already

So the Sacramento A's at this point, I was going to play for the next couple of years I'm in the same boat I'm not a Dodger fan, but I hate, I despise the Yankees I'm an Orioles fan I hate the East coaster, but I feel like if you hate the Yankees, you have to hate the Dodgers Oh no I do But my team's gone So it's like, I, if it's I'm picking the lesser of the two evils, the Dodgers are the lesser in this point in this match, if you're not a Dodgers fan and you're not a Yanke es fan,

you just, you don't care about this world series I truly don't, but I would love seeing the Yankees lose Yeah That's kind of work I would also love to see the Yankees lose I don't think that's how it works It's not soccer It's an infinity series Right Nobody will ever win Make them earn that second and third highest paychecks Right They should play infinitely for the amount of money they have But it was interesting to see what everyone's opinion out there was

So, uh, you know, we, we all became friends about hating the Yankees So, so good times for a trip I'm happy for you That's great That is great Yeah Thank you I was, I was so excited when I get to go to shred and now I'm enjoying the shit out of this beer So I think I've had a triple West coast from there courtesy of our salty friend , Erica Oh yeah Yeah I've had, I think there was a double APA I think there was some big boozy stout somewhere and yeah

I think I told the story on the show when, when we met Amy at, uh, Loggerville, the wife was like, Oh, is that Amy from shred slash air lodge?

Like, yeah, that looks like her Okay It runs out She's a little drunk at this point Runs up and like, Hey, are you aiming? She's like, yeah, like it's totally like in synced out It was like, I love your beer so much and it's so awesome that you know, you're a female and you're starting your own brew And she, at first there was a little like, is this person going to murder me in her eyes?

And then she's like, Oh, we're safe Like it's, it's fine It's drunk A little bit You know, it is not murderer Shannon Not to be confused with murderer Shannon, which she is not right now yet At least Yes I piss her off Oh, can't wait for that I was just kidding How dare you?

I love you That's hilarious Yeah I love that Shannon was fangirling over it That's my favorite part It was a little hot I'm not going to lie And then, uh, this one's for flex Of course, while we were gone, we also got one wine tasting in cause we're classy You are the, honestly, you're the classiest guy I know

No fucking classy I don't know a lot of classy people, but you are top tier class Of course I don't know if you've known, but, uh, I own own, I belong to multiple wine club memberships So I've heard Yeah So I've heard Kind of a big deal I'm in the presence of class right now I don't know I don't know how I feel about that Yeah Greg's like that 1980s fine China that you only bring out for Christmas dinner, like that, that is his level of class Yeah

It's been passed down from great grandma and all that stuff Right Used once every three years, maybe Yeah Like, honestly, it's real ugly Everyone hates it, but like we all revere it Yep It does It doesn't get washed It just gets wiped because nobody wants to break it over the sink Right It's like it's got like a pattern of cats chasing yarn, you know, and just all the way around it Like who would ever buy that?

But I don't know It was a thousand dollars So it's gotta be good Also still has like a strain of E coli from the great depression Well, yeah Cause you don't want to put it in the dishwasher Right?

Well, we can't wash it Oh, fuck Good times Anyways Good A good, good research trip It was nice It was nice to bring I brought back a couple of other things But this is the one I wanted to have tonight So yay for hazy pales and the world's longest story Sorry, everybody We're here for it A lot of tangents That's what I'm here for is tangents You know what? This is definitely a tangent show I'll allow it Yeah Yeah I'm going to show Hell yeah Yeah So, uh, mr Fucking head brewer over here Who me?

Yeah Congratulations on the, on the gig Thank you

Is this your first professional beer job? Yes Yes I put in question marks Correct Okay What's your, what's your, your background before? A professional drinker since 2006, but I homebrewed, yeah, I homebrewed for almost 10 years, but the last time I homebrewed was about now almost eight when my daughter was born I tried to do a, an IPA when we were living in Germany and became a pale ale because I couldn't focus I was worried about my less than one year old walking around

So, um, I just kind of was like, yeah, I'll just wait until she gets older And then we moved here and on the move over half of my homebrewery got destroyed in the move So I was like, all right, well, how do we balance living in California military , you know, uh, salary And then the pandemic happened It was like, well, I'm definitely not buying homebrew equipment because that's like on the, at the bottom of the list, the paper was at the top, the paper was at the top Costco

became a membership and it's still, you know, a membership I pay, but yeah, so my wife, it pays for itself It does It literally does Um, but no, it was, yeah, I just haven't homebrewed in seven years, but luckily like beer still being made in the same way Um, the hops, hops have changed, yeast have changed Um, there's yeast strains that I'd never thought would exist Uh, there are hops that have no names like anchovy Like you wouldn't, we just talked about a couple of weeks ago, like why on

earth would you name it that, but Hey, more power to you that you did

So, um, but yeah, it was, this is my first, when I started over a little over a year ago, um, as a, as our Sellerman, yeah, it was my first job Um, I knew my way around a brewery, just like the processes, um, and helped a lot leading into that job because I did a, Oh man, three month apprenticeship program with the Brewers Association that I got in on, um, it was free It was absolutely amazing I was a aspiring professional

So all of my mentors were ones that kind of gave me insight on how to get in And then once you do get in what to do, um, but also like showing me the sides of the industry that most may not know that are looking from the outside in So that helped a lot Um, but a lot of it, the, the kind of common sense stuff I knew, like, um, there's no money in brewing, by the way, it's not a glamorous job Um, you do it for passion You don't do it for to make money, which is fine

Um, I'm, I knew that going in and even taking, you know, getting this head brewer position, I knew what, you know, what it was and that's fine Cause like I did 20 years in the military, like we, we make nothing, you know what I'm saying?

Like used to it So it's like, okay, cool I get to do what I would love for the rest of my life as a second career and still make no money Yeah And still make no money Got it At least I liked the first part of it Yeah So, um, but yeah, no, I love it I still love it even after becoming the head brewer and having more responsibilities, um, it wasn't exactly the way I would have dreamt it clearly, but I mean, I'm extremely grateful that Monica felt I was ready for it Yeah

That was kind of like the biggest thing was like, she felt I was ready even after just a year of essentially working part time in the brewery and then part time as this, as our sales rep It's nice being noticed like that Yes Yeah You know, um, certain times in my military career I was noticed or recognized, but the majority of it, you know, it was like a kind of like a good handshake, pat on the back You didn't kill anybody today Way to not fuck up And you didn't break anything Nice job

You're not fired Not that I could legally get fired, but, um, yeah So that was, that was really nice I'm extremely grateful and I will forever be grateful for that Um, cause the day she told me, like it was a, it was a sales day for me and she tells me this, that she's, her intent is to go and she wants me to become the head brewer And I like for about 10 minutes during our conversation, I had to fight back tears Not because of like the opportunity It was like that she's had, she's leaving

Oh yeah It was that So it really was like an extremely hard day and this was at the beginning of my day So it was like, awesome Now I got to go try to peddle our beer while knowing in the back of my mind, like I may not be your sales rep in about three to four weeks Right Also, I may not get that job This beer could suck in a month So yeah, no, it was, um, it was a rough day, but we got over it She trained me extremely well leading up to like her last day

And I think I felt better that it just was like kind of a Band-Aid because then it's like, all right, well drop me on my feet Like a newborn Here you go You got to walk Go learn how to poo and pee and all that shit as I don't cuss and then cuss Um, but yeah, no, it was, it, it was awesome Like it's still awesome I'm starting to get into my groove Like today was like, I had so much to do and I still all did it on my own I was like, hell yeah I was like, all right

Fridays are getting a little easier So now I got to work on Fridays, making those like what we used to have like 12 , 1230 one o'clock days A lot of times, um, we would go to a brewery and like hang out with the brew crews at those breweries If they had food, we'd have lunch, kind of make it like a little, like a team building and a little research sesh, little research sesh Once we got ahead from Monday through Thursday So I'm working on that We did hire for my former position

So we have a, Tyler's our newest seller men So he's only been, he's worked for, he's had one official day with us Um, he's mostly a beer drinker, hasn't had experience in the beer industry either or brewing industry However, he is like still very knowledgeable on beer So now he's seen what a brewery of our size does So it's like, Oh wow, there's way more I'm like, there's way more, but it's not just like the package good and what's on tap or what have you So he's like, cool

And he kind of, he's got a mechanical background just like I did So his brain works like mine, which helped a lot Yeah Easy to communicate Yeah Very easy Yeah So it's worked out so far Even if it's just one day, it's so far, it's been really good Nice Any of the beers on tap right now, yours start to finish? No Um, my first one we brew Wednesday or Thursday, hold on a second, Wednesday

Okay Uh, it's a, an American stout We're just calling it in-house holiday stout It's going to be made with chocolate for a holiday market that is coming to our parking lot We're at the mall over here in thousand Oaks, I guess it's a holiday market that travels throughout thousand Oaks every year Last year was at the lakes This year it's in front of our place and we're pouring at it So prior to Monica going, we discussed creating like a, like a holiday stout

The initial intent was it to make like a s'mores style stout Oh sure Um, however, I couldn't come up with the flavor combination that I wanted without having like a base stout to work with and then adding in flavors to make it taste like a s'more I was like, uh, I don't want to, I don't want to throw all this stuff in And then at the end of the day, it's like quite awful and cloyingly sweet It doesn't taste like a stout at all And a s'more And I was like, you know what?

Chocolate's a safer bet No one's ever met a chocolate And I know our clientele, like, yes, it's for a holiday market, but at the same time, we still have to sell it in the taproom and I know our customers So it's like, I think a chocolate stout is a safer way It's going to be ready first week of December and it's going to hang around for probably a month and a half to two months And then we're going to slowly roll into our anniversary month

So, so we don't, I still have to worry about our anniversary beer, getting that into barrels, letting it age So it's like, I don't kind of want a stout that may or may not be good to linger for our anniversary because we, we have last year's, we always save a keg from the previous year for the new year So we have a keg to put on for that

And then we have the new beer So it's kind of like a little, that it's kind of why I'm making it a half batch And then after the stout, the veterans blend, which was last year's blade, that 'll be this year That'll be the next batch we brew That'll be on right now, tentatively on Veterans Day that Monday, I'm going to reach out to the base Port Hueneme and see if there's a couple of guys that are, they should be off It's Veterans Day You would hope so You would hope so

And if they want to come out, whether it's Navy, Air Force, like separate, like ones that separate or retire, whatever, whoever wants to come out Last year we had two guys from my previous military shop They came out and helped us brew it So, so we'll be doing that again this year with the hop blend from Yakima Chief Last year's blend was insane, was unbelievable So I'm ridiculously excited for this year's Nice Yeah Is it like a fresh hop thing because of the time of the year?

No, unfortunately it's not

That would be sick, but that would require like them to ship it to us within 24 hours And then the day I get it, we would have to brew that day Oh, you can't sit on it at all No Ideally like 48 hours is really the max Wow Yeah So breweries that are not within the Northwest that make fresh hop ales, they either get it from a local farm So we have a couple, we have a few hop farms that are within hours drive of us in this

County, but if they get it from the Northwest, they are paying a pretty penny for those fresh hops to be at their facility within 48 hours, getting overnighted and everything Yep So, I mean, that's great I'm a fresh hop guy Oh, so I love all you, dude, I'm waiting for Costco to get their massive pack

that I buy every year Yeah God, I love that beer It's not Christmas If you haven't had a celebration Yep It used to be Anchor Christmas and celebration Now it's just celebration Anchor making a comeback?

Possibly Supposedly Yeah Yeah Yeah He's the CEO of Chobani He's trying to get the original, the last brew staff to come back cause he bought the actual standing Right He bought everything Everything So technically everything is still there So I don't know We'll see I would love for them to start re-releasing their killer beers that they had Yeah That Christmas one was one of my favorites Yeah I love that It was always, you know, a few years ago, up to a few years ago, Christmas was the Anchor

shop celebration And then Stone, Choco Vesa, those were my three Christmas It's Christmas season when I've had all three of those beers and now I'm just

down to celebration Yeah Yeah When we lived in New Mexico, it was Celebration, Anchor, and then Deschutes Jub ilee Love that beer It's a good one I used to do, cause it came out right before Thanksgiving I would brine my turkey in it I'd get a 12 pack and all 12 bottles would brine the turkey over the course of three days Yeah

I'm a turkey briner guy I don't fry it I don't smoke it However, I do enjoy smoked and fried turkey The way I make it is brine and then I just traditional roast I've overcooked turkey that's been brined and it's still moist Like 190 degrees I'm like, Ooh, this is leather And I'm like, Whoa, Whoa How is this possible?

This should be awful And it's still delicious It's thanks to the beer Yeah Yeah I swear by it, man Well, very nice Well, glad to have you at the helm of making some tasty beers Thank you I hope so Yeah Excited to try them out And all that good stuff So, all right Speaking of beers, Flex Hi Oh, hold on No, just kidding You're looking thirsty over there I'm a little parched Yeah Let's see where you're drinking In a world where craft beer is king, a world where muscles are bigger than grow

lers, only one tongue can guide us, one man, one tongue, one Tongue Jobber In this world, we must find out what is Flex drinking Hello, everybody Tonight, I'm drinking Frisbee from Eagle Park Brewing

I picked it up like a week ago I haven't I've had two kids with pneumonia, so I haven't got out much Oh, fun Yeah Let me just put that out there Yeah Yeah Life is real But I have this in the house and it's great It is a New England style IPA, heaps of mosaic hops, says the can, 85% ABV And I love these guys' descriptions on untapped Can I just say?

You can say It says it's a New England style IPA with heaps of mosaic hops Oh It's exactly what's on the can It's brilliant I didn't see that coming Yes But it's got a 413 collective, 22 thousand ratings, which is, yeah, it's a respectable rating Mosaic hops Who don't love them?

Can art It's fun Can art Oh, yeah Sandbags and a camper and a guy hiding behind sandbags while camping in a UFO I don't understand it, but it's fun On the old schnauzer here, like, like orange juice mixed with marshmallows like it's got a kind of orange Julius kind of Yeah Like, definitely smoothie ask OK Trying to figure out what that was I'm pretty sure it's like marshmallow It's delicious You know, here we go Warm up the old tongue job here

Whenever I hear Frisbee, I always think of Back to the Future, like two I think it is He's got the pie tin and he's like, oh, Frisbee, and then throws it at the guy That's because I'm a nerd But orange Julius Aroma goes right into the palate And obviously it's it's fucking delicious Yeah One of those in forever I love this beer This is actually the first time I had this beer was crawled, crawled, crawled, crawled, crawled Oh, no It's crowd from now on Yeah Yeah Kind of like that

And it was fantastic And they hadn't brewed it in like Two to three years since then, and now it's become an annual brew and it's it's just wonderful every time they do it Nice And I expect to hear that lingo around the brewery, by the way Hey, you guys crowd that beer for someone

I know I think it's great That can't be crawler It's not a real word Right Crowder I mean, crawler is not even a real word Right So then you can make up words Growl it Yeah Growl it Growl it Growl it Why not? Hey, I'm here for it Yeah I dig it Yeah Yeah Super solid beer What else is new? Dig it Right And sweet can art, too Oh, it really is And eight point five percent Come on It's right in there It's stupid Come on How much per can?

It's like I think this one was sixteen ninety nine So the four pack Yeah Oh, man That's high on the algorithm Four and a quarter per can But eight point five percent That's pretty solid

Yeah No, that's high That's that's going to be up there on the algorithm That's a great price for a four pack of eight point five percent Yeah Oh, that's what we do here Yeah Yes Although as soon as you leave the state, as soon as we leave California, it's like, oh, look, reasonably priced products The best new prices I've found so far, though, have been in Missouri because nobody wants to be there Mm hmm Well, I mean, it was St Louis, so it's like the only place of Missouri anybody wants to be

Right Right Right True Right Because it's like St Louis on the east side and then nothing, nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing throughout And then you get to the other end before you get out And it's like, oh, hey, Kansas City, I mean, that's Missouri in a nutshell There it is That's all you need to know That's like even on the train when I was in Portugal on the fucking train where you expect beer to be like twenty dollars a can or whatever, beer was like a dollar fifty, but euro fifty

for a beer I was like, God damn, I'm going to get hammered I hope you did Yeah Beer was cheap when we lived in Germany And this was before the pandemic It was cheaper than it was cheaper than soda and water Wow Just think about that for a second That's insane Like a Bitburger third liter serving was a dollar eighty euro, a half liter of Coca-Cola, which is Mexican style Coke with real sugar over there and which is sixteen point nine ounces Yep And that was three fifty euro bottle beer It is

That's why I have no idea what it is now I haven't talked to friends that are still over in Europe I can't imagine it being that much more expensive to be like we basically invented beer So it's like it it's got to be like in the cheaper than laws that it has to be

cheaper than water Yeah Yep Yeah Most likely it's part of Reinhardt's cabot or whatever Beer has to be cheaper than water Any who Not a water show I don't know Like I said earlier, the homie chew your beer called in Let's check in See what's up with him Hello No one is available to take your call

Please leave a message after the tone Yo, what's up, homies? Craft Beer Republic It's your boy Your friendly neighborhood cholo Chew your beer How you got those doing? And lady, I think we have a lady in the house today How are you?

This is true Your beer You probably heard of me We'll talk later Anyways, homies Check it out I just left I went to a brewery Yeah You've been seen I rebrewed Flantastico This time, we made 720 gallons of Flantastico We already put the vanilla So they had me come over to try it out and see what I think and if I needed to add any more stuff So I requested more vanilla I felt like the vanilla was a little light, but also the beers on carbonated So the flavors are expensive there as much

And then we're going to steep it with some green coffee for a couple hours before crashing it So this beer should be ready by or before Halloween So it would be a perfect treat for you adults to come out here and have a couple of pints of Flantastico before you go out and go get smashed with your partner Yeah Also, Greg, I'm sorry, homie You got the shits from Stout Burger I wish you would have called me I could have warned you While I had the shit

I was going to say, what was he going to get sick? Because I didn't eat there, but my sister and her husband, man, they were fucking shitting out of their face and pissing on their ass from Stout Burger Never ever, ever go there It doesn't even matter what location you go to You're all the same You're going to get fucking butt poisoning, homie My sister ate at the Studio City one and they said like within 45 minutes, man,

they were fucking fighting for the toilet like bridesmaids, homie So stay away from Stout Burger and yeah, man, just fucking go to In-N-Out or Carl's Jr, man I will now Fuck that shit I could just see you fighting for a fucking toilet or a sink All right, Holmes This is true Your beer and wash your rear Peace out He's laughing at his own voice Now I mean, it's true What else do you expect? Do you think he's like writes those out and practices them like a speech for school?

Probably I mean, otherwise, is he just that good? Like maybe just on his feet on the fly Yeah If anybody doesn't remember a couple of weeks ago, I talked about going to the concert We went to Stout Burger down in Hollywood and some light food poisoning did occur So, but so not only did Shue's sister and Shue get food poisoning from the same place, the wife talked to her best friend who had been there before She apparently got food poisoning I was like, it's like a fucking epidemic

Don't go to Stout Burger, which is funny that Shue says that Stout Burger is awful and everyone's had awful experiences The friends that were stationed in Vegas at the Nellis Air Force Base, there's a Stout Burger in Vegas They all loved it and they were supposed to open one in Ventura downtown for like three years Google had coming soon or whatever And now it's permanently closed They never even open Oh, I think it did open for like three months Did they actually open it?

And then they shut down Was that the one, like the containers stacked in the back?

Like that was, yeah, they did open briefly Very briefly So I was excited and I never got to go because now they're permanently closed So it's like, dang, like I'm kind of glad I didn't go But at the same time, I'm like a bullet dodged Yeah Because I had like 24 taps all rotating They had quite a few I mean, look, the beer is great Even the food tasted good, but I could see that the meat was pretty red Oh, my Yeah And like I talked about, like I even ate around the middle of it because I was

like, we're going to a concert I don't need to be getting the shits at a concert I might eat around the middle It's a little safer on the edges Oh, my OK Still didn't work, but I got it less than the wife did She did not eat around the middle She was puking in the middle of the night That's still crazy when something hits you in the middle of the night like that Yeah That has never once happened to me in my life Oh, really? Really?

Rare for me Like once or twice kind of thing But yeah Yeah It's either going to happen before I go to bed or when I wake up Sleep Sleep is sleep or your pants, one or the other All right Before we move on to a little bit of news, Boris brought a beer over here as well I did Let's let's make a call The pen He calls to the bullpen for beer

Yeah, he did Sure did

All right

Well, I went Home County, we'll say home county here in Ventura County, Enneagram Brewing their autumn lager called Foilage It is And I did my homework because I listened to the show This is a three point eight three on untapped Loggers always get fucked on tapped Yes Does not It could be like the greatest lager ever made Three seven Three seven Yeah, exactly Everyone's like I'm like, OK, whatever This is a American amber and it says here on untapped Foilage is a hoppy amber lager

based off our old Foilage pale ale recipe using cascade and Chinook hops The lager version is smoother and crisper than the ale with a poppy citrus and pine kick This beer is dry and crisp with pronounced maltiness alongside the piney cascade and Chinook hops It's like jumping into a pile of crunchy fallen leaves And this is one of my actually seasonal favorites from theirs ever since we moved here We moved here in August of 19

Basically every fall I've bought at least like a four pack, sometimes a flats worth It's just that good I think it's due to it's got that malty body and then they toss in the cascade

and Chinook hops, which just like it's that perfect balance of malty and old school C hops that have been around for like 30 plus years And when done right, it's just beautiful And then it's what?

Five point Oh, no, I'm sorry It's six percent Oh, so that's big ABV for Integra That's huge for a lager It's at the top end It is at the top end, with the exception of like their big box or doppel box It is at the top end of seasonals Their IPL is six percent Their single hop Pilsner's are five to five and a half, and then everything else is below five or four And I believe Mertens top out at six Yes, they do I know a thing or two What kind of beer was that again?

Mertens Oh One of those Mertens It's dumber every time you are you are you summoning Randy Macho Man every time I feel like there's a part of my everyday life where there's somewhere in that 24 hour span where I try to summon him How could you once a day?

Yeah Well, yeah Whether I like I do it subconsciously or like I actively try to do it Yeah It's like the day of the dead's coming up, too So it's like I'm a really off Right I mean, extra hard Yeah But not an extra hard show So we discussed that at the beginning Yeah Yeah Geez All right A little news before we get up out of here Maui, the parent company of Kraft, Ohana has announced that they're spinning

modern times off in strategic partnerships Oh, so first they closed the brewery and now they're just like, hey, we done Interesting Yeah So unfortunate It's so weird So he was Kraft Ohana announced a pair of strategic partnerships for the future of the modern times beer brand and hospitality business that will see the Hawaii headquarters headquartered company words step back from the daily operations to focus and double down on growing Maui Brewing

Well, Kraft Ohana will retain an interest in modern times The company will not be directly involved Wings and Arrow will oversee the modern times beer business Moving forward, the CEO of that, Josh Landon founded St Archer back in the day in San Diego and later created the Ashland Heart Seltzer and Harlan Brewing Brands, a group led by San Diego businessman Duncan Ward has acquired the modern times coffee brand and hospitality business boards, LinkedIn page lists him as the executive chairman

of Victoria corporate strategists described as corporate strategy and turnaround specialists with expertise in restaurant bars and coffee shops Transition is expected to take place over the next month It goes into a little more detail and how it's going to break down But anyways, my brew is like, Hey, modern times boy, was that a bad purchase? Man that sucks I'm over here I'm trying to think, is there any Hawaii brewing company with like an original name with an original name?

Yeah It's like, like a, like a clever, like a fun brewery name It's like Maui Ohana Oh, instead of a Hawaii related is, I guarantee there's like an Aloha brewing I'm sure You know, that'd be a fun brewing Mahalo Hey, good one I've never been to Hawaii Yeah Me neither But it's gotta be like I was legally able to drink I'm drawing a blank on Britney's venture out that they had out there Starts with a K It does collide, but it is still, it is still like tied to Hawaii state in one way or another

Right So, and they recently reopened after all the fire stuff That's awesome That they were able to reopen Yeah Cause they got, they got destroyed Completely A year and a half ago Yeah Yeah That was rough And then speaking of modern times, if anybody's looking to start their own brewery, yeah, Boris, maybe start your own brewery They are selling all the old equipment at auction

Oh man Yeah You have until November 7th when it wraps up So a super weird yikes in a case of who the fuck asked for this, Al Smith is adding a hard cider to the year round lineup

Hell yeah Hell yeah Huh? That's on genuine And cut, uh, Al Smith brewing company has added its first hard cider to its year round portfolio The San Diego based craft brewery has launched traditional dry apple cider, a 6 % ABV made with fresh pressed West coast apples I feel like the West coast do good apples Like, you know, the North West does Washington's well known for their apples

Yeah I don't know I don't know Fuck if I know Does California grow apples? I don't think so I mean, in short, we grow everything Are they known for apples?

No Yeah It's not what we're known for No They can't be that good I mean, we, we kind of grow everything good cause we've got like every climate you could ask for at some point or another, but um, yeah, it's not what, what we're known maybe, but West coast could also mean like Oregon or Washington I guess you're right I, when I, I hear West coast, I just think California immediately Yeah, I do too But it could technically mean up I would ignore it Yeah I would venture to guess

Northern California probably makes great apples because, yeah, oh yeah, that's right Northern California is just Southern Washington I forgot about that Yeah Uh, here's the thing though I've seen this whole cider thing popping up a bunch lately, but I don't see people drinking ciders Like RTDs and seltzers are still the thing And these breweries are like, Hey, ciders are things, but no one's drinking them yet I tell you when I liked, when I liked ciders, I was 16 years old and my cousin

who was going

into college, she drank those woodchuck brand ciders, right, right And I thought that was delicious as a 16 year old just trying it I think this is even with a brewery, like at the size of Alesmith, that it's their attempt at getting creative because just beer sales as a whole are down It's been down for almost two years now So what do you do?

Like you either invest in a way to make NA So you either buy the equipment to de-alcoholize something or you invest in RTD s or you make a bazillion seltzers Like, I don't, what do you, what do you do? Like as a brewery, what do you do?

So I think this is Alesmith's way of getting creative to combat the lack of beer sales by making another product that they still make in house, but isn't a beer and they can still capitalize on the sales Yeah I get it It just feels weird It feels like it is very weird No one's asking for it Yeah Um, I never realized how big Alesmith was I went up to, I went down to San Diego in February and went there for lunch and I was, I walked in I was like, Oh yeah, it's giant Whoa Did you do the tour?

I did not What was going on?

There was a, one of the big distributors down there for the state of California They had like their employee day So there was like a hundred people that just took over Alesmith and I caught the very end of it luckily Um, but it sounded like, like the people that would normally do a tour were like already done for the day Oh yeah Cause they had to cater to a hundred people I mean, which the facility can cater to a hundred, but I think they broke them up into groups just to be safe

Cause I, when I got there, I was like, they just had opened the doors So I think they had a private like pre open type of tour cause they're the distributor that who probably distributes for Alesmith Right Yeah But, um, yeah, that's weird Yeah It's weird If you're ever down there, the tour is really good It's, you know, whatever, like eight bucks or something for the tour and they just go, all right, what beer do you want?

And they hand you a beer and you could just walk through with beer and hell yeah, I miss brewery tours, man Yeah It's good times And it's big enough to where you actually have to do a tour It's not just like, here's everything Now turn around There's the rest of everything So, uh, it's good times The wife had a work thing one time and, uh, you, we, they split us up into two groups and it was like half got to go do Alesmith and half got to go do ballast point And it was luck of the draw

And we got lucky We got the Alesmith tour Nice Yeah I was like, please don't give us ballast point Please don't get in Oh, you're going to tell us how you make pineapples sculpt pins I'm sorry How do you ruin beer?

Perfect God I mean, hell yeah Yeah Yay So I will say when we went to ballast point, the half of the people went on the tour and then the other half, us sat out in like the taste room, they handed us like little beers the whole time And at one point the lady comes out and she's got a tray of beers like, all right, who, you know, who wants one? And the wife reaches for it and she like picks up the smell of, of pineapple, pineapple, sculpin And she goes, what beer is this?

And the lady's, oh, it's pineapple scope And she goes, no, I'm good Thanks And we were the, we were the two snobs that turned it away It actually worked out really well Cause lady goes, what do you like? And she goes, well, I can't stand any of that fruited garbage You guys have, she goes, do you like German beers?

Like, yeah She goes, here's a couple of drink tickets Go hit the bar We got some good German beers on tap right now And they did Like four or five different German beers that have never seen the light of day outside the room And it was, it was surprisingly good That's great Yeah But anyways, I think that's everything I think we've exhausted our time here I'm going to hit some music I'm going to say hi to Vanessa Hello, Vanessa Hello, Vanessa Question Mark That's the wrong song too

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