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Crackers and Grape Juice

Crackers and Grape Juicewww.crackersandgrapejuice.com
Crackers and Grape Juice began in the spring of 2016 with a conversation between Jason Micheli and Teer Hardy. In the years since, two shows have been added to the lineup, Strangely Warmed and (Her)Men*You*Tics, but the goal has remained the same: talking about faith without using stained-glass language.
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Episodes

Episode 284 - Jerusha Matsen Neal: The Overshadowed Preacher

Our guest for episode #284 is Dr. Jerusha Matsen Neal, Professor of Homiletics at Duke. I had looked forward to talking with her. I left our conversation feeling grateful and delighted. I hope you enjoy it. A graduate of Princeton Theological Seminary, Dr. Neal shares connections and affinities with a number of friends from the podcast, including Beverly Gaventa, James Kay, and Karl Barth. Her new book is The Overshadowed Preacher: Mary, the Spirit, and the Labor of Proclamation. It breaks open ...

Nov 06, 202057 min

Fleming Rutledge: An Election Day Prayer

Our dear friend of the podcast and overall muse, Fleming Rutledge called in to offer a prayer for Election Day. As are all her prayers, this one is special. Fleming is the author of many books including "The Crucifixion: Understanding the Death of Jesus Christ." You can find her at www.generousorthodoxy.org .

Nov 03, 202010 min

Episode 283 - Gretchen Purser: Not My Party

Jason, Teer, and Taylor had a conversation with Gretchen Purser about the changes to the Republican Party throughout her career. “’Trump says all the things we’ve always wanted to say.’ Really? Then what does it say about us as Americans if Trump’s outer monologue is our inner monologue?” Our guest for episode #282 is former Republican campaign operative and fundraiser, Gretchen Purser. Raised a conservative Baptist in Oklahoma, Gretchen retired in 2009 from a 20 year career in politics, raising...

Oct 30, 202056 min

Episode 282 - Heidi Neumark: Being Christian in the Wake of Trump

"Rather than resorting to Luther's Law-Gospel binary to excuse the Presidents mendacity and self-justify support for him, Protestants should turn to Luther's theology of cross which tells us that we should call a thing what it is...and the thing is only God knows the details and depths of Donald Trump's spiritual life, but Jesus says what comes out of our mouths is the fruit of what's in our hearts, and what Trump routinely says publicly disavows every core teaching Jesus set forth in the Sermon...

Oct 23, 202053 min

Episode 281 - J. Todd Billings: The End of the Christian Life

"You are mortal. You are not indispensable to the world. Your life will come to an end. We're not heroes of the world and we can't do much. To what and to whom do we give ourselves in this short life? Lacking a journalistic account of the future leaves us with many unanswered questions: What will 'do' in heaven? What exactly will it feel like and look like? My most basic answer to questions like these is "I don't know." Our hope rests not in a speculative vision of the future but in God and his ...

Oct 16, 202052 min

Episode 280 - Douglas Harink: Resurrecting Justice

“Both sides are thinking that some how or another getting this or that party elected is good for Christians. I think my point of view is neither side is good for Christians. Because effectively they have become idolatrous powers that christians are looking to for salvation” What is Post-Liberalism? What does "apocalyptic" mean? How is justice central to Paul's understanding of the Gospel? Our guest today is Dr. Douglas Harink, a theologian whose work has been important to me for a while now and ...

Oct 09, 202051 min

Episode 278 - David Gushee: After Evangelicalism: The Path to a New Christianity

Our guest today is David Gushee, whose new book is "After Evangelicalism: The Path to a New Christianity." Dr. David P. Gushee (BA, College of William & Mary; Master of Divinity, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; Master of Philosophy and Doctor of Philosophy, Union Theological Seminary in New York) is Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics and Director of the Center for Theology and Public Life at Mercer University, where he has served for eleven years. Widely regarded a...

Sep 25, 202047 min

Episode 277 - Richard Beck: Trains, Jesus, and Murder: The Gospel According to Johnny Cash

"Saints and sinners, all jumbled up together." That's the genius of Johnny Cash, and that's what the gospel is ultimately all about. Johnny Cash sang about and for people on the margins. He famously played concerts in prisons, where he sang both murder ballads and gospel tunes in the same set. It's this juxtaposition between light and dark, writes Richard Beck, that makes Cash one of the most authentic theologians in memory. In Trains, Jesus, and Murder, Beck explores the theology of Johnny Cash...

Sep 18, 202053 min

Episode 276 - Don Payne: Already Sanctified

"In many cases, particularly in the case Wesley, teaching on sanctification leads to versions of piety that border on individual narcissism...renditions of sanctification as a process or journey of the believer moving towards ever ascending degrees of holiness, of the Christian life as defined by growth or transformation, cannot be supported by the biblical texts, all of which testify that God's work in Jesus is finished and perfect, that on account of it we are already justified AND sanctified,...

Sep 11, 20201 hr 1 min

Episode 275 - Ken Jones: Because I'm Free

More than half of American adults, including 30% of evangelicals, say Jesus isn’t God but most agree He was a great teacher, according to results from the 2020 State of Theology survey. So, back on the podcast is our friend, Ken Jones, to talk about the importance of catechesis in the Church! Along the way, Ken talks about how to equip Christians for civic engagement without the Church becoming partisan and why otherwise conservative African American Christians still vote overwhelmingly for Demo...

Sep 04, 20201 hr 3 min

Episode 273 - Frederick Bauerschmidt: The Love That is God: An Invitation to the Christian Faith

""God is love," Who's he kidding?" Fritz Bauerschmidt is a Catholic deacon and a professor of Theology at Loyola University in Baltimore. His newest book, in the tradition of Lewis and Chesterton, is a treasure. “God is love is the radical claim of Christianity,” writes Frederick Bauerschmidt at the beginning of this little meditation on the essentials of Christian faith. Throughout The Love That Is God, Bauerschmidt goes to work breathing life back into that claim, drawing from Scripture, great...

Aug 28, 202051 min

Episode 273 - Martin Doblmeier: Revolution of the Heart: The Dorothy Day Story

In between weeks when the DNC and the RNC will showcase two divergent portraits of Christianity in America, our guest is filmmaker Martin Doblmeier. The founder and CEO of Journey Films, Martin's latest documentary is Revolution of the Heart: The Dorothy Day Story. We talk to Martin about Day, the blues, Cornell West, and what its like making a film with President Jed Bartlett. How to describe Dorothy Day? Grandmother, anarchist, prophet, journalist, pacifist, saint? The FBI once considered her ...

Aug 21, 202059 min

Episode 272 - Jamie Howison: The Man Who Ate with Capon

Jamie Howison struck up an unlikely friendship with the irascible Robert Farrar Capon just before Capon's death, and he's on the podcast to talk about it, ministry, Cornel West, and John Coltrane. https://mbird.com/2018/04/the-man-who-ate-with-capon/ Jamie Howison is a priest of the Anglican Church of Canada and the founding pastoral leader of saint benedict's table in Winnipeg, Manitoba. His most recent book is I Will Not Be Shaken: a songwriter’s journey through the Psalms (Signpost, 2015), co...

Aug 14, 202044 min

Episode 271 - Simeon Zahl: The Holy Spirit and Christian Experience

“It is true that theological doctrines and religious practices do shape and form religious experience, but it is no less true that experience tends to resist such shaping and forming. Attention to the complex interaction of these two insights is a key dimension of the account of “grace as experience” that follows below.” Our guest this week is a Simeon Zahl, University Lecturer in Christian Theology at the University of Cambridge. Simeon’s new book, which ranges from Martin Luther to Karl Barth,...

Aug 07, 202047 min

Episode 270 - Fleming Rutledge: Elected & Rejected

For our latest episode, we're bringing you a conversation Jason had with the inestimable Fleming Rutledge, at the beginning of the COVID quarantine, about God's way of rejecting and electing throughout scripture.

Jul 31, 202059 min

Episode 269 - Ryan Newson : Cut In Stone

Our guest today is Dr. Ryan Newson, Professor of Theology and Ethics at Campbell University, about his new book, "Cut in Stone": Confederate Monuments and Theological Disruption." Confederate monuments figure prominently as epicenters of social conflict. These stone and metal constructs resonate with the tensions of modern America, giving concrete definition to the ideologies that divide us. Confederate monuments alone did not generate these feelings of aggravation, but they are far from innocen...

Jul 24, 202049 min

Episode 267 - David Bentley Hart : We Are The Worst Of All

The one, the only David Bentley Hart joins Jason and Dr. Johanna Hartelius to talk about his latest book, Theological Territories: A David Bentley Hart Digest. In particular, we talk about an essay included in the Digest that's timely for our current cultural moment of historical re-examination, "The Story of the Nameless: The Use and Abuse of History for Theology."

Jul 10, 202030 min

Episode 266 - The C&GJ Team: Quarantunes

"Sing lustily and with good courage." John Wesley wrote those words in the Hymnbook for Methodist in 1761. We at Crackers and Grape Juice take those words seriously! Therefore we decided to bring you some of our current "Quarantunes" - songs that have inspired, enlightened, and even enraged us as of recent. Here's the playlist: 1. Thoughts And Prayers - Drive-By Truckers (Jason Micheli) 2. Sea of Love - Langhorne Slim & Jill Andrews (Teer Hardy) 3. What If I Never Get Over You - Lady A (Joha...

Jul 08, 202036 min

Episode 265 - Bryan Jarrell: Growing Up in The Lost Cause

"The Lost Cause had taught me that faith, particularly faith in Jesus and going to church, was an indispensable part of what it meant to be a good person. But now that very same faith which The Lost Cause had commended was forcing a decision which would impact my past, present, and future. If I kept my faith in The Lost Cause, I would be unable to preach the gospel to the woman sitting next to me. If I wanted to share the gospel with anyone who wasn’t white, I would have to abandon the secular f...

Jul 03, 202050 min

Episode 264 - William Lamar: Bad Theology Kills

Rev. William H. Lamar IV joins Crackers & Grape Juice to talk about his latest piece featured in Faith & Leadership: 'It's not just the coronavirus -- bad theology is killing us." The Rev. William H. Lamar IV is pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C. He previously served Turner Memorial AME Church in Maryland and three churches in Florida: Monticello, Orlando and Jacksonville. He is a former managing director at Leadership Education at Duke Divinity...

Jun 26, 20201 hr

Episode 263 - Tara Isabella Burton: Strange Rites

Jason and Teer are joined by author Tara Isabella Burton to discuss her latest opinion piece in the New York Times and new book, 'Strange Rites: New Religions for a Godless World.' From the publisher: "In Strange Rites, religious scholar and commentator Tara Isabella Burton visits with the techno-utopians of Silicon Valley; Satanists and polyamorous communities, witches from Bushwick, wellness junkies and social justice activists and devotees of Jordan Peterson, proving Americans are not abandon...

Jun 19, 202050 min

Episode 262 - Drew Hart: Who Will Be a Witness

Drew Hart joins Jason and Teer to discuss his forthcoming book, 'Who Will Be A Witness ' (September 2020), the ghosts of America's racist past, and what the Gospel says to us in a moment of pandemic, protest, and movement. Drew G. I. Hart is a public theologian and professor of theology at Messiah College. He has ten years of pastoral ministry experience and is the recipient of multiple awards for peacemaking. Hart attained his MDiv with an urban concentration from Missio Seminary and his PhD in...

Jun 12, 202056 min

Episode 261 - Shea Tuttle: Exactly As You Are

We could all use the comfort of Fred Rogers right about now. Joining this episode of the podcast is author Shea Tuttle, the author of "Exactly as You Are: The Life and Faith of Mister Rogers." Mister Rogers touched the lives of many, and that is an understating of his impact. A Presbyterian minister, Fred Roger ensured that the Grace of God was shared with everyone he met, whether in person or in The Neighborhood. Yet, while extending Grace Mister Rogers also expected us to grow. Growth is what ...

Jun 05, 202050 min

Episode 260 - Will Willimon: Karl Barth's Emergency Homiletic

What does a theologian say to young preachers in the early 1930s, at the dawn of the Third Reich? Karl Barth's lectures on preaching amidst the growing cloud of Nazism in 1932-1933 resulted in the little book, Homiletics. In it, Barth takes his students back to the fundamental questions about what preaching is and what it is for, returning again and again to the affirmation of the Godness of God, the only ground of resistance to ideological captivity. In this latest episode, Jason and Dr. Johann...

May 29, 202043 min

Episode 259 - Lee Camp: Scandalous Witness

"One major reason Christianity in America has been made into a bad public joke is our failure to rightly understand what Christianity is.” Our guest this week is Lee Camp, Professor at Lipscomb University in Nashville and host of the popular Tokens Show in Nashville. Check out his website: https://www.leeccamp.com His latest book is Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians. Fifteen propositions for changing Christianity in America Christian identity is in moral and politic...

May 22, 202049 min

Episode 258- Malcolm Foley: Lynching Then and Lynching Now

Church Historian, Malcom Foley, joins us on the podcast to talk about the murder Ahmad Arbery within the context of the history of lynching in the American Church. Malcolm is a fifth-year PhD candidate in Baylor’s Department of Religion, studying the history of Christianity. His dissertation investigates African-American Christian responses to lynching from the late 19th century to the early 20th century. Malcolm earned a BA in religious studies with a second major in finance and a minor in clas...

May 15, 20201 hr

Episode 257 - Katherine Stewart: The Power of Christian Nationalists in Trump's America

Our guest this week is Katherine Stewart, a journalist at the New York Times. Katherine's investigative work has focused on the Religious Right and Christian Nationalism. She talks with us about the influence they have had on the Trump White House, their hostility to science, and how it has impacted the response to the coronavirus pandemic. Most recently, she is the author of The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism You can read her article here: https://www.abc....

May 08, 202039 min
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