Talkin' Cowboys Break: Things to Fix

I love this, you know. And I appreciate my man Robbie Phillips, being a great teammate letting me host this because I'm excited about the group of guys I'm working with today. I really am, because I think I got a bunch of problem solvers here, all right. I think I got guys with really good opinions about this football team. I think I got guys that aren't afraid to throw it out there and tell you what it really is.

And as this team embarks on a hat and T shirt trip, as we'd like to say, right Nate, we'll go playing at this a hat and T shirt and this winness trying go to Indianapolis and win a football game. And I'm I mentioned the guys that are with me today, Rob Phillips to my right, David Hellman, happy birthday to you. Thank you, thank you. David Hellman. He always has a lot of great opinions. I appreciate it. And Nate Newton there's a lot of times the voice of reason when

we all want to lose it. He's the one man saying, now, wait a minute, I'm a Pro Bowl player. I've got some Super Bowl rings. You guys, just shut the hell up. No, shut up. We'll work that. Yeah, we'll work that way about it. But again, I'm very excited about this crew. Keke Garrison, as always award winner, is producing this show. Always excited to have him on the board. He's going to take your calls today. Always be kind to him because he has the control whether to put you on

or not. Okay, everybody's doing well here today. We're gonna fix them. We're gonna fix a football team today. Talk about some things, all right, all right, and David, before we get started, Yeah, I need you to do something for me. What do you need? I need you to kind of go through the practice report yesterday of injuries because there's gonna be some key things happening here that

we're gonna need to get into. Pertaining a Sean Lee, pertaining a Zach Martin pertaining a Connor Wims guys like that. How about this one, which I will readily admit I missed this yesterday. Okay, we're so fixated on the Cowboys. Yeah, it is Friday morning and t Y Hilton has not practiced for the Colts yet. Yeah, just something to watch, there's something to watch. But why do I feel like that cat's going to show up? Because they always do, they always do, And how do you play him? Yeah

he might be. He's listed with an ankle, but DNP on Wednesday and Thursday. That's true. Anyway, all right, back to the Cowboys. Yeah, Zeke Elliott is back to practice. He took a rest day. He's fine. Yeah. Randy Gregory missed for a non injury related reason. We probably figure that's yeah, yeah, something he's having to deal with off the field maintenance. Marinelli said he'd be back today. Here we go. It's yeah, that's a thing. Uh. Sean Lee limited for the second day in a row, hamstring working

his way back. Tyrant Smith limited, still dealing with his stinger. No Jeff Swain obviously, No David Irving obviously. Tavon Austin also limited. Okay, so we got that practice report, Nate, how we handling Sean Lee this week? Just uh, letting him miss this week? You think he's gonna miss He don't want to, Yeah, but for the good of him, let him miss this week. You know a lot of people say when he's ready, he's ready. Yeah, no, no, no, no no, it's been six Let him strain, give him

a hard strain today. Yeah, and if he goes through that real well, then next week just let him. Let him fly around and practice, give him his reps and if you get through that, and then he'll be ready for the next week. David Helmet pitch count there. If we do get him back this week, I kind of think he is gonna play this week. That's that's what I lean toward. And I would ye'll know better than me. But I'm no, no, no, no, you're no no, You're

a part of this. You're part of what I'm saying for is y'all y'all go over and talking and you know what I'm saying. Do you eat lunching there with those guys? You see it? I just that, you know, I just believe that another week. Every time he's went out over the last four years, it seemed like he's gets shorter, the period of being in to the game shorter. Yeah, so I would give him an ex restrain him, you know, over exert him. Yeah, let that leg get tired, yeah,

you know, and then see how it reacts. You know. That's what That's just what I and I'm not saying they haven't already done that over a period of two weeks. Right, That's what I would do. David Hellman, you're saying play him. I'm saying I think he will play, and if he does, I'm not playing him more than twenty five spitch counting him. Hunh. Rob Phillips, Yeah, I think I could definitely see him playing. Although I'm kind of with Nate, and I said this

on our show yesterday. If you get towards the end of the week and he hasn't responded just one percent perfect, if he feel like maybe you need another week, then do it. Because the odds are still in your favor that you're gonna win this division at some point. You don't have to rush him back, and they're and they're not rushing him back, so they're not You're right, Yeah, but you could you could give it another week, like

Nate said, and maybe ramp up practice next week. But we'll see if he has a great day of practice and everything responds Saturday, then play him, play him. Yeah, Dave, Why am I taking Layton Vanderesh off the field? You don't? You don't. Oh that was to day. I'll feel strongly and I appreciate that. I want to see you jump in and attack him when that happens. Yeah, Uh, you're taking Layton vander Esh off the field because this isn't quarterback again. Oh you're listening to Garrett and talk about

things and walk off, don't. I don't need a congratulations. I don't need Jason Garrett to tell me common sense first of all. Okay, Nates are common sense on this show. What have we been saying. I don't know about y'all. Since April, I've been saying you need three to play too, right, Okay, And it has proven true to this point because Sean Lee got hurt, which is not the biggest surprise ever,

but it's it's it's a physical position. It's a position that plays a lot of snaps, and I just there's got to be a way that you can make room for all three of these guys. They've only all three been healthy once since vander Esh took the starting spot, and I believe, off the top of my head, I think the snap breakdown was Lee got thirty eight snaps and vander Esh got twenty one. I think it's way

more likely you would see that flipped. Shawn Lee is still a hell of a football player when he's healthy, and he's instinctual, and he can still make those types of plays. So there's a spot for him on the field. Phillips, I'm with Dave. You don't have to overwork him, give him forty snaps, you could give him twenty. Work him in, manage him, get him to the playoffs, assuming you get there. I love the point you made the other day about that Darren Sprowles play the other night that Philly on

fourth and two. There, my friend, instinctual. That's a good word, Dave. Sean Lee is that he made a hell of a play against Darren Sprowles in an Eagles game not that long ago. Yeah, one him the game. I think Layton Vanderesh is one of those things where you know, Sean Lee a fourth and two was looking as huh, I haven't seen Darren Sprowls much out here. Something's up here. You know. I'm gonna play a little wider here and hope that that all. Sean Jeffrey is not gonna crack

me here. You know, that's a learning experience for Layton Vander. But I don't want my badass rookie off the field either. I mean I want him to play and continue to grow because he's he's not hurting you, he's helping you a lot. Nate Newton, I've got a question for you. You're just throwing fastballs at us. Let you say this right here? Uh, Jay Joe Buck said, Troy Wow, suck Yeah, yeah, TV Joe Buck Joe He said, Man, that Layton kid is awesome. Yeah. Man, what do you do with when?

When when Sean Lee come back? Play Layton? I mean, yeah, Troy play Layton? Yeah, you knows. And I'm gonna say this, there's room for all of them, all right, but if he's sixty snaps, yeah, I have to see Layton for forty of them. I agree. I completely agree with what Nature said. And I'll tell you what you guys, I'm not I'm seeing what's going on here, Robbie. You with these cats, No, totally because I think you guys throwing

dirt on Sean Lee. He's trying to leave. You're trying to get him to the playoffs and hopefully through the playoffs in a run. And but and he's heard it twice. Don't overdo it with him. You don't have to anymore. It's like a frog leading the parade with thes yourself. This right here, dude, we really know? Did we really know the hamstring situation? Because the hamstring could be because he's an older guy. Now is because once he gets

stiff Okay, we tell let's say he gets ten plays. Yeah, he gets on the sideline and he's sitting there for two series. Willis stiffness getting good? Point? So is it fatigue that's getting no better than us? But you know what, I got a free mind when late not there. Hey, let me ask all right, let me ask you this, guys,

Let me ask you this one. Sean Lee, the ultimate teammate to Shaun Lee, take a back seat now and does he see what's going on here with this rookie and say, you know what, maybe I do need to take the dirt no whitsky off the bench, roll that kind of thing coming off, you know, six man role. Well, maybe they got a good thing, am I. I like that. Comparis is a great man. But he could he be the ultimate teammate here? That not rock the apple cart.

That's kind of the terrible saying, by the way, that's kind of the beauty of it, Isn't it that like this isn't quarterback like Sean Lee could play the first series? Oh no, no, I'm asking I'm asking you, guys, start, I'm asking you would he would you think that Sean Lee would be the ultimate teammates and let vander esh and those guys play the majority of snaps and play him as they need him. Yes, I do think that.

And there's Nikel. Yeah, that's why he's needed more. Oh, you can make you can make him big on certain goal line plays, yeah, I mean down play. Yeah, it's spots where where he where he can be truly effective, you know. Yeah, And so we don't. But the great thing about it is everybody over there when it comes to Shawn Lee knows what the situation is. He knows it more than anybody. So yeah, and nobody has been helping Layton more than Seawan Lee except for you know,

Ben Bloom. The lineback. There's you know, Rob, You're right down the right track and join it. Late Layton told us last week he's my big brother. Feel like I've known him my whole life. That's not lip service. That's a guy that's willing to he knows this kid's gonna be here for a long time. Yeah, and he's still helping him as much as you can. I don't want to put words in Sean Lee's mouth. I haven't talked to him about this but chance today. But I'll get

a chance today. That's true. We got business to it and too. But um, I've talked to Sean Lee about his injury problems enough times in his career, like he feels guilty about, you know, his availability or out there off like it's got pride. It's not lost on him. He says it every time we talk to him. Yeah, you gotta stay healthy. I haven't stayed healthy. Yeah. And and so do you think this is why he will take the kind of the BP. Yes, Yeah, I think he'll do whatever he has to because he's such a

great team player. And not only that, but you know, this is could be again. I don't want to speak too certainly. This very likely could be like his last shot at a playoff run with this team, or maybe in his entire career. Yeah, and so why I'll do whatever he has to do. And again, it's not quarterback where if you're not starting, you have no role to play. He will have his opportunity, whether because of injury or just finding opportunities. He will have a part to play

if he's healthy. And so I don't think he will sweat it too much. You want to last word on this, Yeah, Well, I just go back to saying it's not like when he was coming back from a Hampshire last year, where oh, Sean's back, we need him for fifty snaps. He does. He doesn't have to be in that situation. And he's

told us that before. This is a dream for me, and I honestly believe him that we've got the talent around us at linebacker now where it's not all on me because I know I haven't stayed healthy and I know it's been a problem. Yeah, I think it's a good scenario for everybody, honestly. Yeah, So see how it turns out. Good. Last word. Heard another name on that injury report, Zack Martin. Yeah, Nate Newton give me some

confidence that you know. I don't think that Zack Martin is going to practice today, but if he can play a play playing, okay, See, man needs a man needs a little rest, don't you think? No, sir, you have not clinched anything. You have not done anything. See trying to win the battle. It just makes me more, maybe

makes me smile. When they were three and five and everybody had him on vine dying, Brian broad Us didn't raise my hand right now now now we have a chance to clinch something we have is to take something hat and T shirt and and we're so good that we can rest people. Now. I'm not asking to rest him date, I'm just asking me maybe think about the big picture here. This is the This is what Jason Garrett won't say publicly of what the big picture or what they have left? What do they have left? They

have two more games after this. They they're they're gonna clinch a playoff spot. They don't need to win this game to clinch the playoffs. That's the just that's the dirty about there, right for place and clinch for themselves. There you go, But is it worth it to rush a guy who's not ready onto the field to win a game that you don't have to have. You know what, I did it? Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure players do it every single week. You want to leave no doubt.

You don't want to get to three o'clock Sunday and say, well, I hope Washington and Phillip let's say Washington, Philly lows. Okay, still gonna hat and a short. Yeah you get it on Monday. Yeah you you okay, you're resting? Yeah, okay, and then when do you play him? Now? Yeah, when when do you play? Okay, we're gonna play him the next week? What if he twisted the next week all

of a sudden. Well, no, that the game that I will say as a player that okay, Yeah, when you get to the sixteenth game and it's over, you've clinched and everything, Okay, all of these guys start resting them. Yeah, but see, this is what I understand is you're saying resting when they clinch. Yeah. Yeah, what I don't understand clinch? And then you got ten? Why why would they play last year when they had nothing truly to play for?

He played all of these guys because he didn't want to be eight, because they could finish with a winning right, Yeah he didn't. Which one is bigger? Which one is bigger? Which one is bigger? There's no question this is bigger game. But there's just so many things that have to go wrong. And this, this is what Jason Garrett would rather die

than say this publicly. But behind closed doors, they're like, wet, we only got to win one of these three or you know, these teams could lose one of these three and we're in let's not throw our all pro guard out there in a game that we don't absolutely have to have. And Nate he made he is deck s. Youre starting here? Is we talking about putting Rush in a white Which one we talking about putting in Cooper Coopers? One thing I do not understand. That's a good point.

One thing I do not understand. Point guys has thirty five secs. We've given up almost fifty. So is is dak okay? Well? All right, into another Atlanta situation? All right? Let me let me let me ask Rob Phillips's question. If he doesn't play, what's your confidence in Connor Williams? I felt right guard. I feel better about what I feel good about what he did at the end of that game having not played it, and maybe a week

at right guard will help him. But I mean, you're reaching a point where you've got a lot of moving parts on your offensive line, to Nate's point, and past protection has already been an issue. However, I am starting to wonder. I'm all with you on Zach. Zach's gonna try to play if he can play. But I wonder at this point if he does need a week, just because he's been playing with this thing for weeks now. He didn't come back the last time a Warrior player. Man,

he wasn't able to return last game. He'd been able to do that the past. I wonder if he doesn't need a week. Never miss an NFL game, by the way, that's true, and I'm missed the middle school game, never missed a Pop one a game. Uh. If he is truly to the point where he cannot stand the pain, I'm one hundred percent with you. Yeah. But if he can stand the pain, oh, he's played through a lot of pain and that's I mean, yeah, a lot of pain. This is his hometown too, Yeah, it's it's his hometown.

It's a chance to win the division. Like, if he can walk. He remember, make an eye run and he made a lot of playing with basically that same knee injury. Yeah. Yeah, and uh and you know after we clinched, Coach Canter say, hey, man, you look you look pretty pathetic at this Yes, sir, did you feel pretty pathetic? Yeah? I did? Did you? And he said, Man, I'm just gonna but you lined up block Gilbert Brown the next week. Yes, man, we're gonna give you a week off. We're gonna put Kevin Gogan.

I mean I didn't hurt you. Uh no, it didn't hurt me. You know, I went up in the in the in the booth with John Matt and the past summer all behind the guy spotter. But uh, I'm gonna tell you something. It's just it always makes me wonder that you are willing to sacrifice, you know, talking about what you think you've already gained and you haven't gained nothing. Yeah. You your team is this far away. Oh you're at the at the you're on the goal line. Yeah, but

you got a bad yeah, bad red zone. You this far away from being a failure. Yeah, and all its is one bad game and you never recover and you'll be like, oh, man, I know what happened here. You got Mark Sanchez going against the jag, Josh Johnson going against the Jags, and Nick Foles with the Dallas Cowboys. That has nothing to do with they wanted to leave,

no doubt, no doubt. I think your own business. I'd rather play him this week, if he can play, I'd rather play him this week and try to win this game at all calls and rest him, force him to rest once once you clinch. And now if they lose this game and then these two other teams lose, they say, hey, you've clinched. You go get your your your weak shirt and weak hat on on Monday. Yeah you go, you know because yeah, because you was given the division. So

you don't you don't think they've earned this division. They got a chance to do it. Come yeah, yeah, they have a chance to take it, as Warriors do. I'm ready to run through a wall and I'll tell you what, No, don't do the hell No, that's it. Hey, it's good, bad, all right, we're gonna take it. We're gonna take our first break plays of fast twenty minutes. I was good.

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Thank you very much. That great read. Rob Phillips Kent Garrison, as always doing the executive producing here, tells me we've got a call kit. Who do we got We'll get this call quick before we get into my question Zona, Well we got him. Sorry, Wartime in Arizona. All right, go ahead, go ahead. What do you got man? Hey,

how's it going? Guy? Excellent? Thank you? Yeah. You guys were talking about people sitting, you know, for these next couple of games if we if we clinch, and I just personally feel like if we do clinch, everybody can play, but Zeke specifically needs to sit because the way that he plays, the way that he gets banged up. Ye, this team needs him to play. Of all people, Dak needs to play. Everybody else can play, but Zeke needs to sit. Okay, my guy. Yeah, that's that's the year

every year argument I have in the preseason. That's my guy. Zeke is good. Yeah, Like, if this team's not playing for anything, he needs to be resting. I'm sorry if that means you might not win the rushing Crown or whatever, but I'm probably thinking about the same thing in LA right now. Yeah, that guy, which I'm pretty sure they sat Gurley for the last game or two last year after they took care of their playoff spot. So yeah,

I completely agree. He's the engine of this whole offense. Yeah, a week off could do wonders for him heading into the playoffs. And you're still there. You got another question. No, I'm still here, but I appreciate it called. Okay, thank you very much, Thanks for calling. I appreciate you getting up early with this morning. Nate. You're okay with that, You're okay, You're okay. Do you want to how do you want to play Zeke though these last couple of games.

If you clinch, if they clinch, no matter how they clinch it, I'm with that with Zeke. Yeah, with that, you know so Man Hill and they never had a problem with Dad. Yeah, how about you, Robbie Philp Yeah, I'm fine with it. He wants the rock, no question. But he needed that mini buy a week ago more than anybody. With the three day games, eleven days. He got banged up, didn't he And now he's on the injury report. He got a singer in the last game.

I think that's an easy way to say. You know, if you do clinch, let's give him a little break because I maybe call up the guy, call up my guy, Darius Jackson from the practice squad for the last week or two. How do you do that? With all the guys coming back healthy. Yeah, they're gonna have some way way easier said than yeah, how you you know how you play that? How do you play that? That's gonna be interesting before the break, I tease this, I want

I want to know from my guys here. I want you to fix one thing about this football team going forward. Fix one thing. I mean, there's no let's be honest, there's a lot of things you could fix here. Even though this team is eight five or you know, around the goal line here trying to get it in, you know, get to the playoffs. Fix one thing, I'm Rob Phillips. Oh okay, yeah yeah, fix one thing for me, Rob Phillips. You mentioned around the goal line. Yeah, I'll go literally

with that. They've got to punch in opportunities in the red zone. I've been genius, been banging that drum for a week or two now. And it's not just the red zone because they scored a touchdown to win the game from the fifteen yard line last week. It's goal to goal situations. They're most last in the league where all they've gotten eight is just a couple of yards to go. And there's been different reasons for a lot of it's just been pure execution. But they have no

problem moving the football with Amari Cooper. But they've you know, get in the playoffs. Field goals aren't gonna work. They're just not gonna work. How that? How do we fix that? Nate said, execution? Is it that execution? Simply take it among itself. Oh yeah, it's a player. I gotta take it among him, each individual player. I gotta say not my guy. Yeah, when you get into the redds and you got to say not my guy, you know, and if you will receive it. I'm beating my guy. If

you're running back, you know I'm getting this extra yard. Yeah, you know it's a it's an individual effort down there. Fix something for me, David Hillman, and I'm gonna make it unanimous because honestly, you're right. I mean, this isn't a perfect team. They're eight and five, but like isn't I mean, red zone has got to be the most obvious problem here. I mean, you'd like to see more takeaways from the defense. Um, you'd like to see better

ball security from Dak Prescott. I was hoping someone that was my pig. I'll come back expand on that. No, No, I want you to I want you, I want both of you to talk about I mean, you talk, okay, go if you want to finish your point about the red I think Rob did a great job. Actually right, they're they're so bad in the red zone though, nineteen nineteen touchdowns and forty one trips down there, Uh, executions,

part of it stopped getting flags down there. Yeah, runs, run run the freaking ball, about that, how about it? But but but there's times Dave and guys they've run the ball and it's been no gain, negative one I trust me. I watched the games. This guy crossed the table for me. And that's the first thing he says when he gets down there. Run the ball. Run and then it's and then it's a no game, Nate, no game ball four? What are they doing? You know just what I do it? Anyway? Do it? Do it anyway?

Nate played with a guy where oh they know it's coming, who cares? Yeah, we got our guy. That's that's player on the field. Absolutely no. But I mean the turnovers are a problem, Like there's no way around. And and you know, DA's a young quarterback. He's gonna throw some interceptions. That's fine, Uh that that's to be expected. But and he said that after the game the other night too. He's like, the one that's gonna keep me awake is the fumble, because yeah, you just can't have that. But

you can fix that exactly. That's probably the easiest one to fix that. That's what That's what's got me baffled is I'm watching last night, I'm watching Philip Rivers. Yeah, you know, throw them interception. But I'm watching, but me, I'm watching that gets killed for but no, but no, but I'm watching, but I'm watching his hands. Yeah, and he and all the good quarterbacks they're gonna keep two hands on it. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean all the

way up and and and this is kelling Moore. Man, do your job, if only you only have one thing, and that's to maintain your quarterback. And if you have to be like the little dog in the cartoon with Spiked the big dog and you're jumping on his back and then hey, keep the ball two hands, two hands, keep the two hands to hand. You have to do this when you go when he threw a ball in this and he coming up with one hand, two hands, two hands. That's your only job because as we get

into the playoffs, don't let that be the reason. Yeah, it's absolutely And I said this on the break yesterday too. Is like, I mean, okay, Michael Bennett rips around the left side, and obviously you want to hold on the ball, but you strip sack him. Cam Jordan's strip sack him. But let's not pretend like it's always been that difficult. Like he's had some moments, you know, goes back to

pass and loses track of the ball. The h I think it was the Detroit game he like dribbled it to himself, just dropped it while he was running, Like, I don't know, Like maybe maybe my guy needs to wear gloves. Ken Ken't brought that up. Maybe put a glove on your non throwing sweaty guy. Well, yeah, he's

sweaty guy. I don't know. Nobody likes my sweaty guy theory. No, I love that, the sweaty guy theory because this is t M I for our listeners, like my hands sweat just yeah, sitting here so I can't even imagine playing football high pressure situation puts put the glare off my head. He's fumbled eight times and lost six I think, and some of it too is And he said this last week, I don't want to surrender. I don't want to give up sacks. Sometimes you just gotta give up the sack.

What's the thing we always pray, I'm sorry, guiding rock go ahead, I'm so. I mean, sometimes he's fighting so hard, and that's what people love about him. That's what I love about him is he never gives up on a play. But sometimes that's costing. Yet, Yeah, what do we always say about Tony Romo? He's not giving up on the play. Love the spirit never given up on the play. This guy does it and he gets killed for it. Don't

lose the ball. Don't lose the ball, Nate, help me with this offensive line though, he gets down the red zone all of a sudden, Is it the quarterback taking all these sacks? Are we the same breaking down with his offensive line? Yeah, they're too quick. They escapes on him up the middle. Oh, you can take an outside escape, sure, but up the middle. Yeah, it's too tight. And I don't I can't see how this guy got paid. We're inside. How did they get on him so quick? Yeah, I

mean she figured out her head. Lift your head up and look at your guy. I talked to Charge yesterday, Haley walking with office and now he say, Nate, they got to lift their heads up. Charles. Haley cussed me out one time. Not Charles, Yeah, because she didn't hit you. We were doing a pass block and we were playing. There was a situation to pass about third and long, third and long, you know, and we was going over that, and so I lined up at the left guard and

he was and I was looking forward, you know. He stopped. He said, hey, man, I'm right here. Yeah, what are you looking at? He said this ain't high school football where everybody get there and look straight ahead. You look at me, brother, because I'm the one that's comfortably do you in And these guys got to look and watchfield and in certain situations know what a guy can do, like for the life of me, and I know I'm

going to look. But for the life of me, how do JJ Watts keep beating beating people to the inside when you know it as coming? Yeah, you see it on film every week, Thank you, Rob Phillips. Is the red zone problems Travis Frederick not being there? Um, maybe a little bit. I just throw a big blanket over that. No, because I mean we've talked about I think Looney overall has done a really nice job with the challenge he has of being point man re snap every time. It's

not an easy job. Yeah, I think y'all hit on it. It's just been a combination of things. I mean, they've had Dave's right hand it to your best player, but at times they've the play has worked. There's been a drop, Dax felt some pressure, Noah Brown's wide open, the ball's sails a little outside of it. You know. Make a couple of those and it looks like Scott lind A

hand's a genius the red zone. But brother, I'm gonna tell you something, Scotland in a hand ain't got none would keep you do with keeping your hand and putting your hands on the first Dave helmet, point the finger at Scott lind A hand in what way? I just want to hear you do it. That's that's easy. Low hanging fruit. It is low hanging fruit. Is firing a guy here, which I tend to do quite a bit some I'm a low hanging guy here. I I hear

Rob's point, and there's validity to it. If you know Cole Beasley doesn't drop a touchdown Atlanta Dak throws a better ball to Noah Brown, Yeah, maybe you feel a little bit better about some of these problems option stuff, you know, kind of And to protection the question the question you asked, Rob, I mean, obviously the line has played well enough to get it done. Zeke is leading the lead in rushing and they're eight and five. But this team was built around its offensive line and it's

not playing that way for a variety of reasons. Yes, I think it's it matters that the best center in football is not there. Yeah, I think who the guy who used to be the best left tackle in football hasn't been playing like it. Zack Martin has been. He's still a beast, which is amazing given that his knee is Yeah, he's banged up the whole time. Lyle Collins's production this year has been mystifying to me. I thought he was so great in the second half of last year.

Leo Mack will tell you that. And it hasn't translated over. But going back to the question you asked me, I get it there. Their offensive line can't do what they want it to do right now, right, it's just bully people in my opinion. In my opinion, no, no, you no, But I think I think the I think they out I think they outthink themselves when they get down there. And Scott Lenahan said it himself the other he was like, well, we know, you know, teams know what we want to do.

They know we want to run the ball. Yeah, And part of me is just like, do it anyway, at least try. And I know they have WHOA got a smile from the big man's face over here, at least try. I think they outthink themselves. I think, you know, they're they're trying to play chess when all they need to do is play checkers. Cute and know what are you are? Not just? But now you asked, the question is as simple as the sin of it not Yeah, yeah, yes, it is as simple as the sin of not being there.

How So, because thank you, Rob, how so because we we we gotta right tackle. We know who he is, right right guard, We know who he is right gotta all pro sin, We know who is right. The only mix would have been Connor, and we still got our left tackle. Now you give me those four or five guys, and I ain't worried about it. I don't care how many of you put up there in the box. I'm still running Zeke, and I'm not worried about a quick escape.

The quick escapes is coming over. Ain't running past Zach, They ain't running past Franklin, and they ain't running And and this this kid could get some help. So that bothers me. When the middle of your offensive line's soft, it hurts. Uh. That's why they put the other kid in there once Connor got hurt. Yeah, And why haven't they went back to Connor? Because you change when they're winning. Yeah, So it's simple as that right there, and I'm with I'm with my man. It's third, it's it's first and

goal on the four. Don't don't go up under the center. As a quarterback, I would go up under the center and turn around and hand the thing to him. Don't stand back there, give him a chance. You eight yards deep back there would stand it up. Man. You ain't given about the chain talk up on the mic. You

ain't given about a chance. That's fair, that's fair. They have running on first down, they've I think they've but they'll gain a yard or they'll get a minus play and then they'll throw, you know, but I don't have a problem with that. Which that right there, Like that's too predictable, like the first down run and then that doesn't work. They're like, oh, it's we're behind schedule, we're behind the chains. We didn't get four yards. We gotta pass now, Like mix it up, man, David him, and

I'll give you the last word. Okay, go ahead, Well, act, I mean, what's what's your favorite phrase? I can't I lost track of the number of times I've I've heard Brian say this in regard to Travis Frederick's like he just cuts the defense in half. Yeah. I mean you got a guy that like he's gonna get to the second level. Yeah, he's gonna watch the linebacker out of the play every f and time. Watch Darius Leonard today against the Colts and then so many times they get

up on him. That's gonna be a key for you today as well as Joe Looney has played, and he has played well. Yeah, I don't think you can underestimate how much it hurts not having the best center in football bigger impact for his team this game. Scott Linahan or Matt Eberflus. I tried to talk to Lenahan about this yesterday. Lenahan and Garrett both downplayed it, which I

just I don't believe them. Basically, I think they're lying because you can't tell me that you don't get a little excited calling a game against the defense or against the scheme that you practice against every day. Like, shouldn't Scott Linahan know what hurts this defense better than anybody should? And he said not. He was like, I don't really think of it like that, And in my head I was like, lilyar, yeah pretty much. Yeah, which you could

flip that around you can absolutely flip that around. I mean, nobody should know how to hurt this Cowboys offense more than Matt Eberflus. Bigger impact Nate Lenahan or Eberflus for their team. Uh, Eberflus got his boys. But there, That's why i'd Sampy pressure thirty five sons, Cowboys? What do we do? Give up sacks? And I'm trying to say

that people do you really you know? They call us said, hey, uh, you know, Zeke should be the only one thing about resting after this game here, boy, we don't do the right thing. We may be resting a whole lot of people. I'm doing true or false? Brian brought us Yeah. Uh, the Dallas Cowboys have more talent on offense than the Colts have on defense. I'm gonna say true. I agree with the addition of Amari Cooper. I'm gonna say true.

I think what the problem is, I might be missing my right guard, which will you know, we'll handicap me there A little bit that is true. That's a good point. At least I'm putting a starter in there that you know, I mean, think about that. Now. Nate's talked about you know, Nate painted a picture for you about what happening in

the red zone. He's saying, inside pressure, inside pressure. If Zach Martin doesn't play in this game, it's gonna be Even though that Connor Williams was a starter early year, he's not. So you got a backup right guard, a backup center, and a backup left guard. I had at the pressure point of where Nate is telling you that they're having as much problems as any other spot of the field. I have a feeling, Cowboy fans are going to know the name Denico Autry by the end. Yeah,

by the end of Sunday. Yeah, he's a he's a good player. He's a problem. He will be a problem. You're right back, and guess what position he plays? Defensive tackle? Yeah, right, he got And tell y'all something. Getting a T shirt and a hat is well and good. But your quarterback laying up lane, Yeah it ain't good. Don't go there. And maybe we should rest him too. I got to find a way to win this game, right. The more you win early let's say they'd have won one or

two games Tennessee. Now we all sitting around saying we pick Wait a minute, now, wait, I say what if we would have won? Well, how about the New Orleans game? You know, you know, yeah that's Jacksonville. Those were game you were kind of like, I don't know, No, I say, what if we would have won those fun games earlier? Like what if I had hair? Yeah? Yeah, you have, you have to have just not very much. Yeah, Rob Phillips, I'll give you the last word on this one. I'll

go with Scott Linehan. Just because you guys mentioned Cooper, I think with Maury Cooper here, it's made him easier. It made it easier for him to just call plays and and move this offense and run the offense and come up with different ways. When you have great players, it makes it easier. But I totally hear what you guys are saying. What I agree with you, Sack, because I keep thinking about he could just called plays the receiving by committee. Just don't make you laugh, working that's

what That's what I'm saying. We were all fools for believing it might. But you know what, that goes back to Travis Frederick. I think they thought it could work because they had running the football was zeek yes, yeah, and your offensive line is gonna dominate and it took a half a season for him to get back to that at least in the running game. I must a game. I'm gonna go when I've got more time, maybe when the season's over, I'm gonna go. Dredge up all of

the quotes from Stephen jone years. There's only two or three number one receivers in the league anyway, Like we don't need that. As you know what, as you give the twenty fifth pick of the draft, it gets one of the best ones in the league. But you got to give him credit for saying, you know what, we made a mistakes. That's why in the world they didn't say it. They just showed us. Three and five will make you do that, all right? When we come back here, a panel here is going to tell you how the

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Kent Garrison. I told you these cats will come with some opinions, and I appreciate everything they've done today and this last segment, though, we still an opportunity if you want to get in and get your opinion in eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven is the number. Kick Garrison, our executive producer, is manning the phone lines for you right now, so again, always be nice to him about that and we'll try and get you on. I want to get into this game though

about how do the Cowboys? What? What's their path for victory? What is you know? I don't think it's this is going to be an easy game. And I do a thing because called Cowboys win Cowboys or Colts win. You know that kind of thing. You can catch that on the web on the website. I will have it up momentarily. Okay, we'll get that done. And but I want to under I want to hear what your path to victory is,

Nate Newton. My path the biggest ball security if if if you take care to ball security, okay, and you'll win this game. Yeah, you know that that's solid, would say, because our defense ain't don't care who they play. Yeah, So as long as I got that defense and it's traveling on the road and they don't care, I don't care. But I do care that our offense is not smart right and they have no ball security right. So if they can fix those two things, I think we'll be

all right. Rob Phillips, the thing that I loved the most about the Eagles game last week wasn't Amari Cooper, wasn't Dak, wasn't Zeke. It was zach Ertz. Five catches for thirty. There you go. And when you look at this matchup, it's to me, it's again another tight, tight, end that's having a lot of success. Can they stop him? And they've got a lot of different guys that are capable of doing that. I think to me, defensively, that's

the key. Keep him out of the red zone situations, because we talked about defensively there, like his zone hasn't been great here in Dallas. Yeah, that's the key for me. Dave Hellman, it's fitting that we talked about it so much in the last segment because I really think whether or not they went, I'll come down to how well that interior trio plays. Yeah, I don't expect Zach Martin to play. I think it'll be Xaviers to a Philo, Joe Looney and Connor Williams. Denico Autry has eight sacks.

Jabal sheared, No, he's not a tackle, but he's in this This defensive line has had some success and Matti Reflus has also gotten aggressive in recent weeks. They've been blitzing a lot, blitz a lot, and they used a secondary. Yeah, it's a lot of slot and it's a lot of safety stuff, which is different from what you see from a Rod Marinelli scheme. It's a lot more aggressive for all the for all the love that Darius Leonard gets as a tackler. He's got seven sacks. Yeah, he's got

twice as many sacks as Jalen. I mean, Jalen's got four, but um send him a lot. They do. Yeah, they absolutely, And so it's up to them not just you know, opening things up for Zeke. Zeke will be fine if he's got room to run. They got to take care of that and then also got to keep Dak off his backside. Um, and I think this is a dangerous situation with him where what three of your preferred starting five or probably not going to play in this game?

All in the interior the interior, Nate pointed out, that's uh, and so that that's that's the key for me, because the Colts aren't running the ball on this defense. Maybe that's famous last words, but I'm not afraid of Marlon Mack. Yeah, and uh, Andrew luck will have his plays. T Y Hilton will have his plays. Eric Ebron's a guy you gotta watch. But they can limit that. I really, this

team's allowing eighteen points per game. I can't imagine, and the Colts are going to score more than twenty twenty one. I was thinking, happen to this to our defense? Is they become balanced. You don't want yeah, this kid being balanced. You want him throw fifty, which is what And they do that a lot, believe it or not. If you want they get some of their games. They he's got some high throw totals. I don't think temp totals. I'm service. I said this on the break this way, the Cults

are a team that's ahead of schedule. Like they do not have the talent to be where they are, but good coaching and good quarterback play have them a year ahead of schedule. Well, I'll tell you what. You led right into what I was thinking, David about this game, because I think it's going to come down to the Dallas defense again. And I think it's gonna come down to when you watch the Colts play, it's unlike any offense that the Cowboys have faced this year. They're very patient.

I mean it is. I mean they will take exactly what you give them. You play zone, they'll throw it for seven. You play zone again, they'll throw it for seven. You play they'll throw it for seven. They're very much and then they'll take this shoot shot to t Y Hilton to try and make a big play, and they're very frustrating because if you're not get it, it's like you'll you know, who's ever doing the game completion to Ibron, you know, completion to Grant, completion to you know Chester.

I mean, they'll keep It's just one of those things it does. That's the way they move the football, and so you almost have to be you have to not get frustrated play in their offense because that's the way they they move the football. Yeah, it's gonna be a oh my gosh, they haven't stopped him, you know, but that's just that's what they're gonna do. And you have to be you have to be aggressive with their receivers. You have to be aggressive denying the football if you can't.

Isn't that Isn't that Rod Marinelli's specialty though, Oh no, that's Sally is a patient guy. That's what I'm saying. You can get and we'll let you go all the way from get ready for that, you get ready for that. That the way the Colts play. They're very much that they'll nickel and dimei to death. That's and and and you're this offensive line to they have now they've fixed it. They fixed their offensive line. When you've added Smith and

you've added Nelson to this group. The two rookies have played really well for them, but you you're gonna be fresh at can you get pressure on them? Can you get guys home? The Philadelphia Eagles I think played them really well early in the year. They were able to get enough pressure on Luck and then they were able to do something on the back end coverage wise, to kind of affect. They just didn't let the Colts Nickel and Diamond to death, you know, to keep drives going.

So I mean, keep an eye on that. I think that's gonna be Cowboys can't get frustrated defensively because it's gonna be God, you gotta get a stop. You gotta get a stop. Well, maybe you get him down the red zone and then all of a sudden, now you're worried about Eric Ebron with twelve touchdowns and stuff like that. By a way to cover him. I think this is gonna be a game with like six or seven combined field goals, just teams driving to the twenty and then

bogging down and then whoever has more breakthroughs. Oh, that's what happened to death that's what happened to Jacksonville. Hey, does that bother here? Is that not what you want to see. That's what you want to see in hopefa but don't see see that's that's how the that's how Jacksonville beat him. Jacksonville had a goal line stand on the one they tried to shovel pass and they stuffed that, and then they had turnovers on the other side of the fifty. luxA hell of a quarterback t Y Hilton's

dangerous ibron is playing that coming home. Yeah, I which I feel like every time I say this it bites me in the ass. Like I remember last year. Yeah, last year, I was just like Keenan Allen's not that great. I'm not impressed. And then he did that. Yeah, so maybe this is famous last words, but like they've they have stopped way better offenses than this, yeah, which is way more talented. This offensive line reminds me of the Saints.

You know, come into a game, haven't given up a bunch of SATs, I mean points, the Saint score exactly though. That's the Saint. You're gonna have to play that way. You didn't like that. That was a little reckless for you, wasn't it. They held the Saints to ten points, singing did Andrew Luck does have thirty four touchdown passes? Only my man Mahomes has mahomies. He does Breeze have He's got I think he's second. Well maybe Breeze has more whatever,

but he's up there. He's up there with thirty four Luck. So you know they can score points. I know, I know they can. I think they're averaging twenty six per game. So I think this defense here is for real too. But I do think it is gonna Brian's right, But that does feed into Rod. The Cowboys goal is okay, yeah, we'll give you the yards. Don't let you're gonna make a mistake. But they doesn't want to get worn out. He saw these people planning on arrested. Yeah, you better

be cowful man. All right, Well talk to me. What are you saying? See we you you gotta always look at your opponent. Yeah, and uh, ain't they hype for a possible playoff position? Oh? The Colts aren't they gonna desper they they they they went to Houston the hype to be in the playoffs. I yeah, they're also wanted five to start the year though too. Yeah, but they hyped if the Cowboys win this game. I used to mickeyism there. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of mickeyism. That's

I did it. I did it. Are they one in five? Oh? They must be terrible. I did it. I did it too. It's fine. No, if the Cowboys find a way to win this game, I guarantee you it won't be comfortable. I guaranteed this game. Are you ready for just one of those heart? I mean ever hearts stopped every games, every game date, and I love every game during this win streak has been stressful, and I think I did the like ten of the thirteen this year have have

come down, have been within a score. Yeah. I've always said this right here because I believe it. Here. The Colts ownership and general manager finally got smart. Yeah, you got one of the best quarterbacks. You almost wrecked yea, And they finally got smart. They got a hit coach that understands quarterback. Yeah, exactly, Frank Craik, we wouldn't need Sean A Lee because I'm telling you, if we stopped

to run, they're gonna throw this thing sixty times. Oh that there's no question, and that he's not won a game once. He threw over fifty times. But man Andrew luck especial. Yeah, I'm glad these guys aren't in the Cowboys Conference. They're they're good enough to be seven and six right now. Like I said, they're ahead of schedule. They got one hundred million dollars in cap space coming up, and they're gonna be They got draft picks. You're trying to make us a Colts fan all of a sudden.

I'm just saying that all the cults are gonna be really good in the near future, assuming they don't bring a good point, very good point. Now, Garri signed. We got a call. Who got He got Mark in Michigan. Hey Mark, Mark, Mark, go ahead, good morning, Good morning. I appreciate you taking my call, No problem, I said, up. Just I'm glad you guys looked around back to linebackers, because that's my question. I know there's a lot of scenarios. I know they're on rotation, and I think we're gonna

see sew On leave this weekend. I hope. Um, but nobody's talking about Damien Wilson. Worse is great? Orse is grade? So far as the season, how's he doing. And you know the other thing about who's Will, Who's Mike, Who's who's Sam? And then who's matching up Ebron. I'd like to know you guys opinions, and I appreciate you taking my call. Thank you all right? Thanks? About five people gonna match it up, match up with Ebron. Yeah, but let me say this right here, and I hope they

don't do this. Do not put Sean Lee the wolf Harmer out of predator at at the Sam position. Yeah, these guys are runners, an athlete, dame and Wilson is playing nice. I'm glad, pro Bowl, Pro Bowl player. Oh, he gets it. And former scout, Super Bowl winning scout explain it to me like I'm five, Why one of these guys can't play Sam? Why would you take this? Why did you We always talk about instinctual they are Damien Wilson makes his bread and butter by setting the edge,

getting up there, battling with tackles. But you asked what you do is a battle with a tackle? Hey, they will run over one of these guys. And now all of a sudden, now you take away the athletic ability. Yeah, they love to come down helling, slice and dicey, Now you're gonna, hey man, go ahead and deal with a tackle at six five, three hundred pounds, which all right, you you stop me if I'm wrong, because you you can run circles around me when it comes to football.

But that's I feel like it gets the context gets lost. But you will weak side linebacker. It is the empty side of the line, the line you're you are uncovered, right. The more athletic you are, the better that is. But you're uncovered strong side. You are not only a tackle, but probably a tight end because sometimes two, sometimes both of these strong side of the line. So you are going to contact is the name of the game. Extension, extension,

point of attack, setting the edge, making sure abouty getting around. Yeah, I mean that's they move Sean over to Will to keep him uncovered, get him protected a little bit so he didn't have to take all blocks. But he's uncovered. Yeah. Yeah. So I just and and I'm not trying to talk down on anybody, but people they're just like, well, there's there's three linebacker jobs. There's three linebackers, Like this is easy.

If of the three which could play at the most sam not none of them, None of them it's a bad question, Nate. Y'all love how y'all love how this guy runs? Yeah, I think he has the freedom to run. Yeah. Yes, he's a big, strong, strapping guy man that hunts wolves. Let him continue to hunt. Don't tie him up, don't don't, don't tie him up. Okay, let me ask you this. What makes Damiens so well suited for it? Is it his strength, his reach, or just the fact that he's

not not athletic enough to do the other stuff. Yeah, I think he's athletic. But those yeah, because I'm gonna say they they were all the kid Davis. Yea risk, they would have all been in bad shape. But the closeness you would have saw the club. I think the other two guys would have been closer as David has he running away from him. Delicy would have had a greater distance to get away from him. But that thing was over when Damian turned. When David looked up an

uh okay, game over end game. He's an athlete, but an athlete is short spaces. These guys were talking about athletes over fifteen twenty yards. Yeah, okay, you got you gotta say go ahead. Yeah, I know you had an opinion on this. Maybe Jalen just because he could. You know, he's he's a guy that rushes. It's like an extra down line. Yeah, go pop Wilber used to be that. Yeah guy, got some pop to that guy. But I feel your da is a Jalens, not giving him any

size or strength. That Jayleen is a uh three steps shelf downhill, downhill three he's down you late games? Can shelf turn get back? Yeah? Are you just line up? Run with you that right there? It's hard to teach you, brother. You saw grunk, right, we consider grun a great athlete. To stop to tackle somebody in open field. It's a good point. Yeah, but win, lose, win, a very stressful win. I've never known the Cowboys and lose. Yeah, I'm gonna

picking hell here, guys. All right, so I think no, I think I have a bad feeling that you might be right, but I'm gonna give the Cowboys a benefit of the doubt. Yeah, yeah that point. Hey, he's got a bum knee, Nate, the man has a bum knee. We'll see. I just I have I have a feeling about this one, all right about it? Gut feeling. Later on today I want to thank everybody. I want feeling, gut feeling. I want to thank my guys, Nate Newton,

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